http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspxBy Yonatan Pomrenze, NBC News Producer During my recent hunt for a new apartment in Moscow’s astronomically-priced real estate market, I came across postings like this one all the time.   “2 room apt. Newly refurbished. All appliances, high-speeden-USCommunityServer 2.0 (Build: 60608.1)http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99726Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:30:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99726MikeRussia is sliding on a slippery slope and, of course, they are the ones who will suffer the consequences of their actions.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99739Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:40:20 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99739Stephani Berry, Syracuse, NYAs wrong as racism is, America has been fighting it for so many more years than Russia that my only surprise is in the surprise of others who don't expect it when traveling. If anything, I would have expected a little research on the region you intend to travel to and then act accordingly to preserve your own safety. For example, I know that white americans are going to be discriminated against socially if going to the middle east so I would accomodate by many different measures, including wearing a head dress to not insult the muslums of the area or study the prayer richuals so again, not to offend any locals I come in contact with. If Russia is attempting to correct the situation by what ever means they deem fit for their country, then who are we to decide if it is right or wrong. Who told america that racism was first ok and then not ok? Our own people, as will their own people.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99741Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:41:49 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99741Dave, Pasadena, CAI was discriminated against when my wife and I looked for our first apartment in Pasadena, CA back in 2004. We called a chinese apartment owner and asked if the APT was still available. She told me "we dont want your kind here!" My kind? My "white" kind? My non-asian kind? My english speaking kind? My not-chinese tax evading kind? Isnt what they said to me discriminatory? Stop bullshitting Russia only a DAILY basis and investigate the problems here in the U.S first.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99768Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:07:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99768Brian Connelly, Tamuning, GuamWhy do media outlets and news stations continuously send people out to report on this as if American's are perfect wordly citizens? There are a handful of reasons that half the world's population does not like the United States, and reports like this are just one of them. Russia is Russia. It is not America. Their goverment is more lenient of crimes towards some ethnic groups, so if I was a member of one of those ethnic groups I wouldn't go there. More people in this world need to know where they are not wanted and just stay away from those areas and just let others live how they want to live instead of trying to push your own flawed views upon them.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99779Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:14:40 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99779bill Houston, TxWell its not like the Russian people have any experience with democracy. When I was there in the 80s the old people were longing for the good ole days unders Stalin, because he kept things organized. People get the government they deserve.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99786Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:20:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99786Someone from Brooklyn, New YorkAs always Western media tells only half of the truth. There are no landlords in Russia. All apartments are private of the family or person who lives there. Some private people rent their own private apartments. Do you see the difference and how you are spoon fed?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99790Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:22:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99790Marek Gorski Good for the Russians. They finaly got tired of the mafia criminals and islamic terrorists (Chechens, Azeris...). These thugs from the south have their own countries (from which Russians were ethnicaly cleansed). Now they just invade a country where they don't belong. Fortunately things are changing.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99797Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:27:33 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99797FarahAfrican folks(back in Africa) should treat Russian oil worker the same to make them taste their own medicine....Russian's are ignorant folks and i am not supprised at all. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99816Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:42:54 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99816Nathan, Portland, OR"If they come out defending minorities too strongly, they risk alienating an electorate that clearly leans to the right" The implication that "right" or conservative political views is also synonymous with overt racism is insulting. The intolerance of an individual towards people different than him or her is seperate from their views on abortion, government spending, foreign aid, or the civil rights vs. security issue. Entirely aside from this, trying to use labels from the US to describe another country's politics leads to misleading and innacurate assumptions. Left, Middle, or Right means different things here than it does elsewhere in the world.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99821Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:45:26 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99821Jim T, CAWell i can sort of see the Russian point of view....here in Los Angeles, i might as well be in Mexico City, English is clearly the 2nd language here, and i dont really consider California part of the USA, least not as our founding fathers would define America. Clearly thr Russian people want to keep their country Russian (slavic) under the Russian Orthodox faith. They see what has happened in other parts of Europe, ie Paris, London and Madrid...they probably get Fox and CNN also. I know i see Russia Today every weekend. I have visited Russia and found the country and its people very very nice, alot nicer to Americans than western europe.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99834Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:53:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99834Cal Ripson, PhiladelphiaAhh, the electorate doesn't "lean to the right" - that's such a dead giveaway of the author's parochial "Western" focus. Actually, the Russian electorate very much leans to the "left" in economic issues. Russia however has not been stewed in 40 years of American style multiculturalism, or to be more correct, the Soviet version didn't take hold. It is not unusual that there would be more racial or ethnic conciousness in a country that suffered countless invasions and wars with outside actors who were often, but not always, identified as ethnically different. In many respects, it is the American and Western European version of multiculturalism that are a fiction - a fiction rigidly enforced and always at risk beneath the surface. If one wants to test the practical limits of ethnic tolerance, I suggest trying to live in parts of North or West Philadelphia as a non-African American.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99839Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:59:58 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99839Diane, St. Petersburg, FloridaHate crimes, no, but I still think we, as OWNERS of property, should be able to rent to WHO we want, when we want. I own it, I say who goes in there.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99845Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:06:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99845mircea volosen clooeyville tx I came do Usa from romania 19 years ago . I tried to get a apartment in DAllas ; I was discriminated because I had a kid . http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99848Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:08:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99848Alex Kahn, New York, NYPeople get the government they deserve? So we deserve Bush? I didn't vote for him and I think I don't deserve this government, as I don't deserve being discriminated by a filipino apartment owner when I was first trying to get an apartment in NYC back in 2000. He said "no asian, no apartment, I SO SORRY MY FRIEND" Talk about the American Dream. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99856Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:11:19 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99856Frank ParkerSounds like my kind of place. Why do whites have to be the only people on earth who aren't allowed to maintain their identity in the face of overwhelming numbers of non-whites? What was the overthrow of Apartheid about if not to exercise the political domination of the majority over the minority? Why should Russia be different? This is one of the most overworked memes of all time. Poor everybody else, always the victim.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99861Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:14:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99861Paul Kwiatkowski, Bellevue, WASo, "racism and hate crimes" on their own are evidence that a populace "clearly leans to the right"? Russia is actually fairly left-wing in many ways, especially by American standards (this was, after all, the Soviet Union not so long ago). Assuming that unpleasant behaviors must imply a political affiliation other than your own is both naive and distasteful.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99862Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:15:33 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99862Charly, Los Angeles, CAWhy do you call racist people as people who "lean to the right"? Racism has nothing to do with the political inclinations of people, and many political parties that encourage racism also want more government controls on the economical and social life of their countries (aka socialism), which actually makes them clearly leaned to the left.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99878Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:29:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99878Nate, Bloomington, IndianaOlder Russians fondly remember Stalin because there was a small measure of the rule of law, awful as it was under the communist system. As one WWII (Great Patriotic War, as they call it) veteran once told me, "Under Stalin, at least the criminals had some fear of being caught and punished. Now there is none. Money is the only law." http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99879Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:29:43 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99879Jay Fisher, Sand Springs, Ok.I totally agree with what these Russian landlords are doing. And this is not just a recent problem nor, is it specific to Russia. You go anywhere in the USA today ( especially CA-NJ-NY )and English is the second language not the primary. We ( the USA ) better get imigration reform done soon or no one who is caucasian and middle income we be able to do anything without having to speak a non-english language. Worse, you will continue to see racism against those of caucasian decent florish as our country is continuosly over-run by non-white, non-christain, non-english speaking terrorist. I say close the borders (north, south, east, and west) for a min. of 10 years. Maybe then America will be America again..not some has been 3rd rate country on the outside looking in.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99886Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:32:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99886Joe Strick, Milwaukee, WIAs a student of Russian History it is very easy to see the roots of this so called "problem." During the Soviet Era nationalities were seperated and defined to a degree that Americans could not imagine. The Soviet government set up homelands and laws to "protect" the sanctity of different nationalities. The model saw no need for integration, and helped perpetuate the problems Russia faces today. Before we judge we must examine the contextual history of a nation that led to these situations. The shortcomings and ignorant plans by Stalin will affect the future of Russia well into the next century. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99892Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:34:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99892Dennis Fairfax, VAThis reminds me of how anti-Communists in Russia were described as "liberals" in the American press during the Gorbachev era, and Stalinists were called "right wingers". And of a Thai newspaper ad looking for a "young, good looking female tenant aged 20-25." In many ways there is more freedom of speech in these countries than in America, where a multicultural dictatorship reigns. Thanks to liberals.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99908Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:42:58 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99908STEPHEN SPOHN FYVL NCSO WHY DO WE ALWAYS HAVE SOME SELF STYLED DO-GOODER GOING TO OTHER COUNTRIES AND CRITICIZING HOW THEY RUN THEIR INTERNAL AFFAIRS. I DON'T GO TO SOMEONE ELSES HOME AND TELL THEM HOW TO RAISE THEIR FAMILY OR RUN THEIR HOUSEHOLD. I DON'T EXPECT ANYONE COMING TO MY HOME AND DOING LIKEWISEhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99909Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:43:06 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99909Kushan FernandoRussians get what they deserve. If they dont want to accept immigrants, their population wil shrink and collapse upon itself. It should look at the Candian example, which is a large country sparse on population. Canada is growing thanks to a rise in immigration who are paying taxes and supporting the general population. As a visible immigrant, I was looking forward to visiting Russia on a tour but after reading reports like this why should I visit a country that won't welcome me.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99911Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:43:15 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99911Jennifer Blackwell, Portland, ORPersonally I think China, India, Japan, most African and Middle Eastern countries could use a little more "diversity" - if you accept that to be a little more than a code word for blacks. Lets open these countries and force them to take boatloads of white people and every other type of person in the world and lets see if they scream. Russia is only an issue because they have *white people* who want to preserve their identity and their ancestral home. No one suggests any of the other homogenous non-white countries are racist or need diversity. Integration is, and always has been, a trojan horse ideology meant to destroy white influence. Its never worked the other way around. Russia is *their* country. Don't go there if they don't like you. Its that simple. Non-Russians have no say whatsoever in what Russians do in their own country.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99917Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:44:36 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99917Mel SchlobblebottomI've been to Russia three times, and rented an apartment each time. The only racism I found was that when they found out I was an American the price immediately doubled. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99929Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:52:58 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99929Jennifer Blackwell, Portland, ORWhy doesn't this guy complain about Mugabe and how he ran every white person out of Zimbabwe through a campaign of terror? I quote "The only ones who have the moral authority to speak out on Zimbabwe are Africans". No one challenges this man's ideology or actions. Minorities can protect their homelands and identity, Europeans cannot?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99933Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:54:13 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99933South CA, USAIf they'd began mentioning natinality of the criminals, everybody wiould see that 50-70% of the crime in regions like Moscow or St. Petersburg is commited by ethnic mafias from Kavkazian or Central Asian regions. Would that help the Yonatan Pomrenze's "noble cause"? Apparently not, it will just fuel up more the local folks' anger on those reach, powerfull, and unreacheable groups like Azeri, Georgians, Tajiks, Chechens, you name it. Compare, those Duma's measures with for example "politically correct" sitcoms like "Law and Order": what you see on TV with what you really see in jails, the real statistics: "wishful thinking", right? That what the Current comparadore and corrupted Duma tries to do: hide its head in sand like an oistrich. Patriots in Russia will do it differently. Come back to home business, actually, I saw a bunch of advertises in Russo-phone papers in California such as "Jews to be applied only", or "I am seeking a Jewish roomate", etc. Was that a man/woman who lives there, or an owner of the appartment/house/area? You can only guess if you are not stupid. So what? Double standards all the way? RUSSOMAHAhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99940Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:57:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99940Slavez, Philadelphia PAYonatan, what was the first thing they teach you in school? Respect.. Go to africa/south america or a muslim country for an assignment, then talk about democracy/your rights.. Rent your US home to illegal immigrants, and please... you're building a new "wall of China" at the Mexican border.. the rightious one! Did it say "No Americans"? http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99948Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:02:48 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99948Mike, AlaskaNot every country in the world sees a positive future in being a "melting pot" When one day in the future Russia is the worlds only nation of white people, & the rest of the world is what we now call "3rd world", they will have won the battle without firing a shot.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99951Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:04:20 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99951HM, Iselin, NJWhether you want the right to rent to, or otherwise do business with, anyone is not the issue here. The issue is safety and respect. Societies should not grant the right to abuse or disrespect others based on one's belief of superiority. Like someone or not. Rent to them or not. Be respectful and don't attack anyone who is different BECAUSE they are different.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99958Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:09:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99958Jeff Johnson Palm Coast FlHaving lived in Russia for several years, I feel that the Russians are almost absolutely racist. I never quite understood it, but everyone wanted to be Russian ancestry, etc. because it was status. The recent hate crimes would have gone on before if there were more people to hate. the opening of the country probably has a lot to do with it. In 8 1/2 years I could count the number of Black people I saw on one hand. when I was with my wife on the Metro the first time to Moscow, there were four black students riding on the same car. She says, "There sure are a lot of Black people in Moscow these days." As some body said in a previous comment they will get what they ask for eventually. It's really a shame they have to be like that, but it is definately a hold over from the "old days"http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99964Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:13:53 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99964Honza P, Birmingham, ALJust wondering, but how many Caucasians (wierldy, "blacks", in Russian vernacular) in Russia proper commit crimes against Slavs? I'd be shocked if the number isn't higher than the number of Slavic crimes against these minorities. Why aren't both equally punished by the law and covered by the media? That said, point taken.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99971Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:18:41 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99971Alex, TennesseeI would say about 90 percent of Russians are living just above poverty line and the rest are super rich. This would make anybody angry, and down right jelious, etc. and definitely contribute to the hate factor. I'm Russian, from Kasahkstan and has been living in US for 11 years (and loving it) and personally wouldn't go back to Russia, not to mention Kasahkstan. And if I were, I would be seen as some sort of traider who apperanly has money (the jelious factor). Bottom line, I don't have a lick of nostalgia anymore and will take American red tape any time over Russian.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99983Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:27:23 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99983KelleyI had a taxi driver drive off with my 500 ruble bill without giving change for a 50 ruble fare in St Petersberg. several others that seen this came up and offered a ride free anywhere in the city and stated that all Russians are not like that. Their local "security"(ex KGB) at each business do way more crime solving and fighting than the police. but It starts with the government charging Russians 50 rubles 50 R and foreigners 500r for hematige and another 500r for a camera and a ect. i told my Russian wife if the US did the same % a foreigner would pay over $1500 to visit the grand Canyon. Putin is accelerating westernazation through inflation anti-corruption strategy that allowed russia the same growth (pain) in a decade that took us a century. Mexico is behind Russia in these areas as of now and they've had a couple centuries. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#99997Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:40:26 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:99997Howard D. Reed...Midland, TexasIt is certain that in the competition among nations China will be the ultimate winner. Why? They have steadfastly refused to allow the immigration of foreigners. Make a list of all the B.S. they avoid by this simple measure .http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100004Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:42:45 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100004Sariel Koch, Los Angeles, CA"...they risk alienating an electorate that clearly leans to the right." Let's be honest, this isn't a left or right issue, but one of ignorance, stupidity and hate. People of substance reject racism and those who promote it!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100006Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:45:10 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100006Sergei, Reston VAI don't see anything wrong with being 'choosy' who you rent your apartment. Tiptoeing around ethnicity issues in the US I think went too far. God forbid you use ‘b’ word. White is fine, but not ‘b’. You can use ‘f’ word occasionally, it is OK as well. But what’s growing in Russia is a bit different. Germany went through that in early-mid 30-s. They (some Russians) ready to stone some Asian migrant just because he is not human, he is ‘churka’ (their unified term for Asians). But not only Asians are bad, Ukrainians are dumb, Jews are kaiks, and Americans are all (?) fat and degenerates. The only (!) developed country in the world is Russia, the fastest developing country in the world is Russia, the richest country in the world … and on and on and on. It is much easier to criticize other dumb, fat, stupid nations that achieved something then quit drinking and smoking non stop and do something. Killing of Uzbek laborer is ‘fun’ because they are like locust – everywhere and they want to keep Russia for Russians, but not one Russian will take their place and will work on the market for 12-14 hours a day, seven days a week, sleep in the same kiosk, use bathroom (bushes around the corner) at night. NEVER!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100010Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:48:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100010James McPherson, Poplarville, MSFreedom of association was one of the freedoms we have lost in the USA while trying to be all things to all people. We still discriminate on the basis of race but you have to lie about it. Open discrimination beats cowardly, hidden discrimination and it is emotionally healthy - it is a natural urge. Like attracts like.. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100022Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:58:40 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100022Kelly in Phoenix"Regardless of my being American, if my “nationality” (the Russian term for ethnicity) wasn’t a desirable one – say if I was African-American or Asian-American – the landlords may decide not to rent their apartment to me." Why did you point out African-American or Asian-American? Are they in a special privelegded group? You pointing that out reveals to us that you believe that people other than 'White-Americans' are in a special group and needed to be treated as a special class of people. In my opinion that demeans all 'non-White-Americans'!! All people should be treated equal based on their merit... and not given special consideration. YOU ARE DOING THE SAME THING... but in reverse!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100023Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:00:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100023JesusThe violence is a result of the government's complete lack of enforcement of immigration laws and border security. Russia's immigration laws/policies are, on books, very strict. This is not an immigrant-friendly country, but the system doesn't work all and you have all of the illegal people there.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100025Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:03:41 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100025Rob MunozThe hell with the Russians, we have our own problems,,, lets focus our energy on our problems to make life better for our future generations. You don't have to go to the other side of the globe to find discrimination,,, go to any city here in the states and you will find racism.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100038Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:17:35 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100038Simple, BostonSame thing happens in Gemany... No Big Dealhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100043Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:21:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100043Ursula, Sacramento, CAUnfortunately, Yonatan, I would probably ask too if I were the Russian interviewing you to rent my apartment. Your last name sounds Georgian (country, not the state) and there's a history associated with that country that is violent. Just because you're an American does not erase your family's origin or the associations of people who've suffered under the violence of people with similar names. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100046Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:24:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100046Nick, Tampa FLAmericans discriminate? Of course they do. Almost every country or society on Earth does in one way or another. But Americans don't show up at the door step of these countries by the masses trying to live there. The Russians and others continually show up on the doorstep of America and Western European countries trying to move in. They should just stay in Russia or where ever else they crawl out from if they hate outsiders and foreigners so much. As far as African, South American and Asian immigrants, they actually work there butts of trying to make it in the countries they go to. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100047Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:26:13 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100047DavidFunny how Russian racism is so hypocritical. Russia colonized over half of the land of Asia, places where "Moscovites" were never present. Maybe Russia should consider giving up their colonized possessions in the far east, maybe consider renaming their ignorantly named "Jew Country" near the border with China. I mean we have people on here thinking that Slavs were "ethnically cleansed" from far east and central asian provinces... the same places where Stalin and the Czars had ethnically cleansed the non-slavs less than a century ago. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100050Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:29:51 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100050Nolan DolanWow! First of all to the so called "White People" Posting on here, White isn't a race, it's a construct. Second you are Euro-Ethnics not white people, American whites operate under the fear of holding onto, or losing skin privelege, because that's all you have, the reason why American Euro ethnics didn't want to give up power ala Slavery, educational rights, housing rights, the freedom to steal land from Native people's. To Jennifer from Ore and JAy from OK, and all the others generous scared citizens, you complain about immigrants stealing and taking and oh stop your whining, now you know how NATIVE AMERICANS FEEL ABOUT YOU!!!!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100052Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:32:49 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100052DavidFascinating. Many of the posts in here take the conversation back to America. America, where blacks have been discriminated against, even though they been here as long as the whites. Native Americans who had their land taken. And here I read posts of whites saying that the Russians and "white" Americans need to "do something" about immigration or else they will lose their coveted status, their preference, their "rights". Your rights do not include the "right" to take away the rights of others. Russia annexed those territories... You think "Kampuchuea" and the Russian provinces in the far east were somehow historically populated by "Ethnic Russians". Heck no. You can't have it both ways, not here nor in Russia. Whites need to quit their complaining about not always getting things "my way". And accusing non-whites of the same thing "first" is as immature as a 8 year old. Whites never own up to their own problems. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100053Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:33:49 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100053Tami spirit lake Iowa most of your comments Truly are sad , thats why we still have Racism , and like hate it spreads , just look at the comments , shame on you for thinking this was right , Tami http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100056Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:35:19 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100056KB, Phoenix, AZHow can you say that racists "lean to the right". Let's see, in America, before the civil rights era, the massive discrimination was mostly evident in the deep south, which history reminds us was almost exclusively Southern Democratshttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100062Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:38:50 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100062Jeff Hwhat a crock - obviously the multiculties haven't invaded Russia yet - Mr. Fernando, I am sure they won't miss your money there - and I am sure that your country of origin isn't exactly egalitarian for non-natives - whatever you're selling - I ain't buying - 56 white American males signed the Declaration of Independence - we were a mighty country long before the multiculties showed up on our shore trying to demean and minimize us...http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100066Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:41:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100066Ellewell,the Russians Government should have not allowed any foreign investors, students and travelers to Russia since Russians want "Russia For Russians".Why make things complicated by letting the foreigners in to Russia and then create "Racism'?Also,there is a saying in Russia especially in big cities like Moscow and St.Petersburg that sounds like this : "Love the USD and the Euros but Hate the people".But not all Russians are racist. Russians that live in those smaller towns like foreigners.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100073Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:46:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100073Natasha NikolayevnaHumas should not be deprived of their right to disriminate, if a lanlord would not want a person of certain ethnicity living in his condo he should have the right to refuse. People of different ethicities should be seperated, it would make the world a lot more interesting. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100079Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:56:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100079Graham Oliver, Edmonton, Alberta, CanadaJennifer Blackwell, nice straw man you set up there. He is talking about his personal experiences with a rascist mind set in Russia. Are you implying that he thinks Mugabe is o.k? That is patently ridiculous. Discrimination is wrong, no matter who does it. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100085Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:07:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100085Ayal Rosenthal, Tenafly NJRussia has long, long, LONG, LLOOONNNNGGGGG history of racism. The word pogrom (which means large-scale, extensive violence against Jews) came about after repeated pogroms in that country. Tolstoy campaigned against Russian racist attitudes towards minorities in 1800s. Its not surprising, its sadly expectedhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100101Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:25:14 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100101Brad Nance, Hardin, TexasI work all around the world and in Russia for years. They are like everyone else in the world including Americans. Some are set in their ways and narrow minded while some are extremely open to other views and embrace tolerance. The majority are good people and wake up every day wanting to do the right thing. We should not judge an entire country by the actions of a few.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100116Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:45:15 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100116Chicana, Los Angeles, CAGoogle Russia's birthrate. Russia is suffering a huge population implosion. The birthrate has dropped to below sustainability levels. In other words more Russians are dying than are being born. Good! Racists deserve the fade away into the sunset. And I just noticed the far-right racists here on these boards. There sure is plenty of racism but it is of no matter to me. If you all are afraid of a language you don't understand that is your problem. Like I said it is of no matter to me. Current population projections say "my kind" will be the majority by 2050. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100181Sat, 24 Mar 2007 01:28:34 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100181Rob Finneran, Old Lyme, ConnecticutThey have freedom of association in Russia? Imagine that! Freedom of association is also a negative right -- the freedom to exclude FOR ANY REASON. It doesn't have to be a "good reason." Freedom means ANY REASON. A poster above mentioned that Asians in the US actually have the freedom to exclude non-Asians. I can confirm this. In Boston, there is a Vietnamese community that has "Vietnamese only" schools, day cares, churches, blocks of apartment buildings, etc. If white people did the same thing they'd get sued by the federal government. That's not freedom. Ergo -- Russia nowadays is FREE, and forced multikult Amerikwa is NOT FREE. One more thing -- it may be just a coincidence, or maybe not. There was a group of people back in the 1930's to the 1960's who called themselves "Trotsky-ites" and they put all their hope on the "worker's paradise" of the USSR. Then they gave up on Russia and became "neo-conservatives." Now you know who hates your freedom.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100203Sat, 24 Mar 2007 02:18:44 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100203Peter Smirnoff"...Russians get what they deserve. If they dont want to accept immigrants..." THEY DO. Russia is the second largest recipient of migrants in the world. Many people from ex-Soviet countries (Ukraine, Georgia, Causasus) want to live and work Russia.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100273Sat, 24 Mar 2007 06:37:36 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100273Seattle, WAGet real. If you think someone is gonna be a trouble maker you are not gonna rent YOUR home to them. Ive rented to many groups and I would never again rent to blacks, hispanics. Only whites and asians. Ive been ripped off to much. Obviously lots of whites and asians are bad tenants but ive had so many problems with blacks and hispanics i dont want to relive that nightmare. The few bad blacks and hispanics are destroying it for the others. If your black or hispanic you need to take care of your degenerates because they are destroying your reputation. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100299Sat, 24 Mar 2007 07:31:03 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100299Christopher, Makawao, HawaiiElite state-sponsored schools in Hawaii allow ONLY those who have Hawaiian blood. Institutionalized racism.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100306Sat, 24 Mar 2007 08:47:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100306Lena, Doha QatarI am American, currently live in the Middle East. Travel extensively. Racism/discrimination/nationalism is a way of life in most countries. Doesn't make it right, But you can't change history & traditions overnight. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100394Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:58:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100394Desh Premi"Integration" means assimilation of non-white people to European/NA countries. The point that most of the "white" posters are missing is that 400 years ago Asia and Africa allowed Europeans in and they enslaved them. England, France and Spain essentially colonized, enslaved and destroyed the resources of 99% of the non-white countries for 400 years until World War II. Around 1500, Asia accounted for 70% of the world economy. Now it is 20%. In Zimbabwe, white settlers are NOT immigrants. They colonized and seized in the 19th century 90% of the arable land while being only 10% of the population - they enslaved or killed off the original African land-owners. Now that Zimbabwe is independent, the African majority will want its land back from these settlers, who are essentially invaders. If you can't understand this, you are going to have a hard time living in the 21st century which will be slowly but surely dominated by Asia.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100444Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:22:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100444Regina, British Columbia, CanadaCanada is growing thanks to a rise in immigration who are paying taxes and supporting the general population ============================ Yes, it's true about Canada but in Russia Asian and Georgian/Armenian immigrants commit crimes, have illegal businesses, do not pay taxes, do not APPLY for permanent residence, they just come and rob the country, rob and kill its citizens. There were a lot of different people in Russia , and there were no problems with Russians' attitude towards them. Everything changed when a HORDE of crimes came to Russia after breakup of the USSR. Because the government did nothing to protect the country and its citizenry, what is happening now is inevitable. Perhaps Russia should build a wall along its border with the former southern Soviet republics to exclude those outsiders, just as the U.S. has done along the Mexican border.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100450Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:36:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100450Joe MorganGiven the predatory nature of our species, diversity always injects tension, alienation and division into a society. No healthy race accepts a deminishment of its power in a society, as a percentage or its influence in the elite. The European races are sick races.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100456Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:53:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100456Sean, Torrington CTIt's easy to pick out the rascists by their comments. It is sad that this is occuring in Russia, but the same thing has occured (and still occurs) in the United States. We're just more subtle about it because of the laws. At-will employment anyone? I'm hoping that the USA will change immigration policy and welcome the Tens of Thousands of Iraqis we displaced into the USA as citizens. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#100457Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:55:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:100457john floridato HM, ISELIN, NJ : i don't think the russians see it as "SUPERIORITY" i think it is that they see it as "POSESSION" after decades of not having anything of their own. they now have something that they very much care about and want to protect from anything they see as a threat. They want to have the freedom to rent to and live with people of their choosing,which could be seen as FREEDOM OF CHOICE ! I don't know if they lean left or right but they seem to lean towards their center. The have a problem with IllEGAL gee where have i heard this before.wwwwwhy is the term for russia Illegal and MIGRANT is the term for us ? Or is it that we use the terms that suit the LEFT leaning when it suits them.You went to their home to find something to report that suited you. How about you try this let Russians worry about their homeland and stay out of their affairs. We have enough here to keep you bitching.Let's worry about our own back yard.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#211590Sat, 02 Jun 2007 10:05:01 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:211590AnonymousWij vonden de beste hits voor jouw!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#250388Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:10:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:250388Veronica, TXDoes the word "Slavic" have the same roots as the word "slave?"http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#262289Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:15:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:262289clarence mcchristian, austin texasIf you are not Russian then BUTT out. Just because you feel you have some right here in the U.S. does not make it OK to import your views in other counties. Have you learn nothing from 911?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/03/23/99666.aspx#286313Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:56:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:286313AnonymousLive online Home Auction Center of bank owned home properties .Save 50% on Real Estate.