Hamas draws Israeli fire, Palestinian praise

Richard, Los Angeles — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:59:00 GMT

Speaking for myself, I hope Hamas wins. Israel has been draining US taxpayers for decades. The war in Iraq, in my opinion, was created to protect Israel and guarantee access to crude oil supplies. In the process, America has been made weaker and poorer. Enough already!

Hamas draws Israeli fire, Palestinian praise

Irwin, Thousand Oaks, CA — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:06:25 GMT

Strange things are done out of desperation, when people are being humiliated with the boot of occupation strangling them. Don't think Hamas (or the Palestinian people) will give up. Many Palestinians see the PLA almost as collaborators and resent Abbas.

American love their darling Israel, but that has nothing to do with justice. You'll never crush these aspirations for independence by military means alone. America's interest are not served by its prejudiced policies. Nor are Israel's - in the long run. The hatred of Muslim people (as opposed to the governments) will be guaranteed and our security will be imperilled. Bravo to Carter for recognizing this!!

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Josh, Hershey, PA — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:07:54 GMT

Isreal is destroying this country. US should abandon Isreal and let the crazies in the ME fight it out among themselves.

The whole scenario scares me. Isreal attack Gaza, Hezballah attack Isreal to save Gaza. Syria attack Isreal to save Lebanon. Isreal attack Syria. Iran attack Isreal to save Syria. America attack Iran to save Isreal.

Wow...any one smell the draft.

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john doe inUSA — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:12:28 GMT

go Israel, with the Lord

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John Doe, Washington D.C. — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:31:34 GMT

The only reason Israel has allies is because the U.S. So here is some news for you, the U.S. only has friends, not allies. This friendship is over

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john saah, bethesda, maryland — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:40:57 GMT

Fletcher is yet another Jewish propagandist work for Israel in the U.S. media. Its amazing how both MSNBC and CNN did not mention the deaths of 3 Israeli occupation soldiers during the entire day on Wednesday, yet Haaretz (an Israeli news website) mentioned it the minute it happened?

Our American has become even more pro-Israel and pro-Occupation then the Israeli media. What a disaster we are in here in America!

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cliff michael, foxboro, ma. — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:49:04 GMT

Are there any people in the world as self destructive as the Palestinians? I doubt it. They persist in seeing the U.S. as the enemy even though we have given billions to their corrupt leaders. Our latest effort to help them is an offer of 500 million usd to help palestinians in the west bank buy their own homes, but not one dime is coming from arab countries even though they are drowning in petrodollars. So much for the so-called "ummah" or islamic unity.

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Alex, New York New York — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:08:16 GMT

This has long been coming for years. The full might of the Israeli military will be unleashed.The total destruction of the Gaza strip and yes there will be many many many civilian deaths. The palestinian people will finally get what they want to turn the Israelise into monsters. And the Israelise will hate the Palestinians bittery because of it forever.

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S.B. Stein E.B. NJ — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:16:08 GMT

Hamas doesn't really want to rule just like Arafat didn't want to make peace. It would make them administrators rather than fighters. They have no real interest in peace; look at the children's programs they put on calling on all to die killing Israelis (civilians at that).

I think it might have been Golda Meir who said that there will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews.

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v racer — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:26:06 GMT

Obviously the Palistinians have no sense. They belong to an insane religion, they back insane policies and they follow insane leaders. They get what the deserve.

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San Fracncisco — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:26:44 GMT

Yes Hamas is bad but Israel has done much to
flare tension between them and Pales. Bad reporting l
leads to wrong conclusion and wrong conclusions
lead to bad policy.
Sound familiar.

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John Doe — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:28:39 GMT

Palestinians have been made to pay for the sins of The Third Reich and it is way past time for the world to WAKE UP from the holocaust hangover that has allowed America's best friend in the world to become the biggest bully on the planet.

International Law demands that occupation is to be temporary, maintain the status quo, not pilfer the resources of the occupied, nor transfer the occupier's population into occupied territory. But Israel does not adhere to international law; they follow the law of the jungle.

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Lily, Dallas, TX — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:34:58 GMT

The destruction of Hamas by Israel would only increase the animosity that the Arab world has towards Israel and by association us. You might say, it doesn’t matter, because the organization would be finished. But the error that people make is of thinking of these organizations as solids, like a house you can tear down and then there’s no more house. They are instead organic, you can kill the people that make up this organization right now, but as long as they have the sympathy or the people they claim to defend (and let’s face it, they do), others will appear almost instantly to replace those lost. An attack by Israel would only give it more credibility by making whole organization a martyr.

Obama like other American politicians responded to pressure by criticizing Carter. But he is the only one that has the right idea. We have to stop trying to make the world the way we want it to be, and start dealing with the world the way it is. And the way it is right now, Hamas is more representative of the Palestinian people than the so called Palestinian “government” – and I use that term loosely because we know they don’t have control of the area, they don’t provide basic services to people, etc.

Hamas was elected already. They are more legitimate in the local’s people mind already, and an Israel attack would push public opinion even more to Hamas’ side.

I know we don’t like Hamas. We don’t like the way they act. We don’t like the way they think. We don’t agree with them. But we’ve talked to people who we don’t agree with before. We did it with Rusia. We need to do it again.

The only way to be rid of Hamas is to take away their reason for being. Their reason for being is the Palestinian unhappiness with the situation in Gaza. People are unhappy there for good reason. I understand that Israel feels it needs to be that way for their protection but it seriously undermines the standard of living of Palestinians (to put it mildly).

The argument that we can’t talk to Hamas or deal with Hamas until they recognize Israel is just pigheaded. Basic human nature would dictate that they will actually be OK with Isreal once their own basic needs are taken care. Until then, they will look around for someone to blame and that inevitably will be Israel. And they will keep on venting their frustrations in violent ways.

Israel can’t make Palestinians into what they wish they were by force, anymore than we were able to make Iraq into what we wanted it to be by force.

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Fred, NC — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:35:22 GMT

Hey, I have an idea... how about Isreal and the U.S. face up to the fact that democracy doesn't mean "elect whom I want" and deal with the fact that Hamas is the duly elected representatives and talk with them.

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Seth, Morton Grove, IL — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:44:43 GMT

It is becoming more evident that Israel is doing more of the terrorist activity in that entire region. Israel must remember that for "Every action there is a reaction".

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Paul — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:54:01 GMT

Wow, that speaks volumes as to the mindset of many in the Arab world. Those three clowns are the most popular? I guess its like battered-women syndrome, where you keep coming back for more abuse from the one you "love" because its all you know. What a bunch of cavemen. With their support of Hamas and the status quo, I feel everyone in Gaza is responsible and hardly innocent. Its too bad they just don't get it, because death is their only future. But honestly, when I see 6 year olds wearing Hamas flags and waving guns around, and this is mutually acceptable in Gaza, I no longer worry about them dying. They're already lost. When they die, I won't be surprised or upset.

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Mike — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:54:32 GMT

"The destruction of Hamas military power in Gaza would serve Israel well". Boy doesn't that sound good! Unfortunately if they did go in to Gaza to do this the world would again renounce Israel for killing innocent civilians and destroying buildings. Also, the fact that Hamas's popularity grows only goes to prove the many Arabs in this region are more interested in the destruction of Israel than they are in their own properity.

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Douglas Miller, Miami Beach, FL — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:03:36 GMT

Hamas is a terrorist gang that desires the annihilation of Israel and the extermination of the Jewish people. They don't care about the comfort and safety of Arabs under their control. In fact the deaths of non-combatants fits into their propanganda campaign against Israel. Hamas is not only a pack of murderers but they are pathologic liars. It's the moral and ethical responsibility of the news media to check out what Hamas presents them as facts.

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robert haynes — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:26:55 GMT

pretty much a one-sided story

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Hillary, Evanston, IL — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:34:04 GMT

We need to get rid of Hamas for once and for all! The residents of the Gaza Strip have been poorly served by the arab world for over 30 years. Israle has been paying the proce of their problems for too long.

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Richard Lawrence — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:34:43 GMT

Hamas is pushing for a fight with Isriel because Iran wants them to do just that. If an full war in Gaza explodes, then Hezbollah will also get into the conflict on the Lebanon side, resulting in a war with Israel on two fronts. Iran wants this because it sees that with war in Iraq between the US and the insurgents and Israel with Hamas and Hezbollah, their goal of regional Islamic conflict with the west works in their favor to distaboloze the Middle East and further their ultimate goal of an Islamic region. Israel and the West are just going to finally realize that we will ultimately have to confront this radical Islamics, financed and supported by Iran, once and for all. A broder regional 'World War III' is going to happen and the West just needs to accept this and get on with it. Iran feel quite convinced that it can achieve it's goal of regional and possibly world domination by their version of Islam. If they can develop atomic weapons it just may decide to go for it regardless of how many people die in the process.

Hamas draws Israeli fire, Palestinian praise

petros — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:52:23 GMT

Palestenians want freedom from the israel.
They want it now.

Hamas draws Israeli fire, Palestinian praise

Richard Rosenblatt — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:09:27 GMT

The Palestinians are trapped in a "no exit" room initally built by their Arab "brothers," and further reinforced by their own leadership. If the Arab nations had accepted the UN partition plan instead of invading Israel in 1948, there would be a Palestinian state today. If they had answered Israel's call for talks after the '67 war instead of intransigently proclaiming "no recognition, no negotiatons, no peace," there would be a Palestinian state today. If Arafat had agreed to the boundaries proposed by Ehud Barak at Tabah (at least as a starting point for negotiations!), there could well be a Palestinian state today. If after Israel left Gaza, Fatah had begun building a functioning society instead of continuing the mismanagement and corruption that lead to a forcible takeover by the implacably hostile Hamas, a Palestinian state would be under way by now.
But they did none of these things, so we are faced with the situation described.

Make no mistake, the Israelis will go to almost any length to avoid warfare. My belief is that they would fall all over themselves to help in the development of a thriving, vibrant, prosperous Palestinian society. But, if they conclude that their country is in mortal peril, they will not hesitate to invade and lay waste to Gaza!

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RJ Edmonton Alberta Canada — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:54:36 GMT

When you degrade an entire nation to the extent the Israeli's have to the Palestinians you should expect them to rally around the only entity that stands up against their oppression. That is I think only human nature. Israel's threat of destroying Hamas with it's military might is just more of the same. It solves nothing. It will only perpetuate the blood and hate.

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Luv a good smile — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:33:45 GMT

Atrocious article.

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Luv a good smile — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:09:26 GMT

My reflex has been to say
"It is amazing the media material Americans are fed".

An adjunct to this would be
"It is amazing what Americans swollow."
Some Americans gratefully swollow anything that
plays to their belief system. Some could care less
about vetting what they take in. Some simply
could care less -- period.

For how long, though, can one keep repeating
"it is amazing...it is amazing...". After awhile you
have to face the fact that there is nothing extraordinary
about it. It is normal. This *is* what America is.

We are presently in a disasterous war. Disasterous
for ourselves and even more disasterous for those
(the Iraqis) whom we profess to be enlightening
with freedom and democracy.

We are in a disasterous war and we got there because
Americans were fed lies (WMD). We were then fed lies about
the lies. (How hard do you think you would have to
poll your personal associates to find one that still
believes that the US intelligence agencies gave Bush
bad information and thus misled him into an invasion?)

Being sucked into a disasterous war based upon lies
is situation-normal for the US. Face it.

The article by Martin Fletcher is a case in point. It is so misleading, and it attempts to get us to accede
to the massive violence that is going to be perpetrated on Palestinian civilians in the coming months by Israelis armed with American weapons. But how easily will Americans swallow it? One guess.

At this point in my comments I would rebut specifics
about the article -- gladly.

Anybody care to go first?

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Luv a good smile — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:25:21 GMT

Bush pressed Abbas to hold elections in the Occupied
Territories. When Hamas, to Bush's surprise, won the
elections Bush hatched another plan. Bush armed
and prodded the Fatah faction to have a coup against
Hamas, but the result was the opposite of what Bush
expected.

David Wurmser, whose bio includes Mideast advisor to
VP Cheney, aide to John Bolton, a chief co-author of the
infamous "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing
the Realm", has long been one of the neocon elite.

Wurmser accuses the Bush administration of "engaging in
a dirty war in an effort to provide a corrupt
dictatorship [led by Abbas] with victory." He believes
that Hamas had no intention of taking Gaza until Fatah
forced its hand. "It looks to me that what happened
wasn't so much a coup by Hamas but an attempted coup by
Fatah that was pre-empted before it could happen,"
Wurmser says.

The botched plan has rendered the dream of Middle East
peace more remote than ever, but what really galls
neocons such as Wurmser is the hypocrisy it exposed.
"There is a stunning disconnect between the president's
call for Middle East democracy and this policy," he
says. "It directly contradicts it."

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Javed Husain, Chicago, IL — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:24:02 GMT

Here lies the problem with your argument. Agreed, that Israel can destroy Hamas militarily, at least temporarily. But politically, Israel does not have a way to destroy Hamas. The reason why Israel has been unwilling to try to destroy Hamas militarily is because even if they destroy Hamas militarily temporarily, Hamas comes back stronger politically (and may be even militarily) long term.

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Moshe Liperaal, Simsbury, Conn — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:47:42 GMT

My reflex has been to say
"It is amazing the media material Americans are fed".

An adjunct to this would be
"It is amazing what Americans swollow."
Some Americans gratefully swollow anything that
plays to their belief system. Some could care less
about vetting what they take in. Some simply
could care less -- period.

For how long, though, can one keep repeating
"it is amazing...it is amazing...". After awhile you
have to face the fact that there is nothing extraordinary
about it. It is normal. This *is* what America is.

We are presently in a disasterous war. Disasterous
for ourselves and even more disasterous for those
(the Iraqis) whom we profess to be enlightening
with freedom and democracy.

We are in a disasterous war and we got there because
Americans were fed lies (WMD). And we bought it.
We were then fed lies about the lies. (How hard do
you think you would have to poll your personal
associates to find one that *still* believes that the
US intelligence agencies gave Bush bad information
and thus misled him into an invasion?)

Being sucked into a disasterous war based upon lies
and buying into those lies is situation-normal for
the US. Face it.

The article by Martin Fletcher is a case in point. It is
so misleading, and it attempts to get us to accede
to the massive violence that is going to be perpetrated
on Palestinian civilians in the coming months by
Israelis armed with American weapons. But how easily
will Americans swallow it? One guess.

At this point in my comments I would rebut specifics
about the article -- gladly.

Anybody care to go first?

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Clifford Bourgeois — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:36:38 GMT

All American reporting about this conflict is heavily biased in favor of Israel because of its political and economic power in the US. The fact that the Israelis are engaged in ethnic cleansing and have a state based on religious affiliation, not demoratic priciples is completely ignored by the world.

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me ,here ,there — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:46:38 GMT

"Following a storm of Palestinian rockets, Israel killed 120 Palestinians"
the Plastinina kitchen Made Rockets Storm !!!( it was only 4 Rockets that Killed nobody )

"That means that if Israel were to invade, it would be long, bloody and painful for both sides. But still, Hamas appears to want this to happen"
yeah right , the heavey Plastinina artillery ( hand guns facing F16s and Mirkava tanks) stop fooling us with this kind articles

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Michael, rochester, michigan — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:53:15 GMT

Israel has long been fond of changing facts on the ground in defiance of world opinion. Now the fact is Hamas has become entrenched in the region. Misery, such as that heaped upon the Gaza people, who are essentially living in the world's largest prison compound because of Israel's bellicose and unilateral actions, make for desperate alliances. Nobody wants war for war's sake.

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Emiliano Guevara, Armageddon,Babylon — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:07:09 GMT

"a storm of Palestinian rockets"????Hamas has about "20,000 trained and well-equipped" fighters ready? GIVE ME A BREAK! why dont you try to be a little more objective & stop spitting propaganda for your Zionist Masters in Tel Aviv!? "So what is Hamas up to? Do they want a war" omg! if theres is someone who wants that war SO BAD is the pariah Terrorist state of Israel so they can widen the ongoing HOLOCAUST on the defendless Palestinian population.
How dare you to compare the the Military strenght of one of the best trained & equipped (Modern weapondry,communications,total control of air power,etc) armies against the not very well organized Palestinian Guerrillas & their Soviet Era Kalashinovs?
Shame on you! You should be doing your job informing the people about whats really going on the Bloody....errr Holy Land

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C Wash, Tallahassee, FL — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:16:57 GMT

Is it any surprise that Palestinians favor Hamas over the Imperial hypocracy that 'Israel' represents? Palestinians could only be killed so often before they recognized who was responsible. Palestinians are being punished (economic sanctions, Israeli attacks) for supporting their own people (Hamas). It's equivolent to holding Palestinians Hostage as Ransom against Hamas. Since when is this how we do business? Americans look down on such tactics everywhere else in the world except Israel. It's why we go to bat for them in the U.N. and why we turn a blind eye to the atrocious ways they govern the people they displaced.

Down with our policy of Salutary Neglect towards the terrorist policies of Israel.

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Jon Grander — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:19:14 GMT

It is difficult to understand why those whose history was of oppression "did not care that they themselves had become oppressors".

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Ely, Brooklyn, NY — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:38:07 GMT

Why should Isreal live under constant rocket attacks? What other country would accept a day of rocket attacks from a neigboring country.

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dean — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:40:40 GMT

I am so sick of these middle east countries. Enough already....People all over the world want peace and prosperity for all...The palestinians have had a chance to acheive that several times but because they are brainwashed in there religion it will never happen. While I am not jewish and I do not stick up for Israel....lets keep in mind that they took a waste land dessert and built a thriving city from sand....what have the palestinians done? poverty and war thats what...

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July Garcia, New York, NY — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:45:42 GMT

Enlighten us, O wise and learned one.
Given that "Israel has the power to destroy Hamas at will", how will they achieve this without eliminating every single Gazan?
Didn't Israel have the "power" to destroy Hezbollah at will?
Do you really think that F-16s or even nuclear weapons can destroy Hamas?
Your assertion is ludicrous.

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Moshe Liperaal, Simsbury, Conn — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:53:25 GMT

Amazing.

Didn't imagine MSNBC would allow so
much anti-zionist talk.

Why does it take so long for comments to
show up? I posted a comment and then many hours
later there was no sign of it so I posted
it again. Now I know.

Martin Fletcher led off his article with a false
premise:

"
You would think that Palestinians in Gaza would be upset at Hamas’ provocative stance against Israel, which has brought economic sanctions and contributed to massive unemployment and food and fuel shortages.
"

Hamas was more than a year into their self-imposed,
unilateral cease fire, and had participated in a
democratic election, when sanctions were then
severely escalated by the US (and Israel).

Instead of nurturing a new democracy the US and
Israel did everything they could to destroy it.
(And supposedly we are spending billions per year
in the Mideast to *bring* democracy) The
destruction of the democracy was complete when
Bush armed and prodded the Fatah faction to instigate
a coup. Hamas saw it coming and pre-empted it with
a coup of their own.

David Wurmser, whose bio includes Mideast advisor to
VP Cheney, aide to John Bolton, a chief co-author of the
infamous "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing
the Realm", has long been one of the neocon elite.

Wurmser accuses the Bush administration of "engaging in
a dirty war in an effort to provide a corrupt
dictatorship [led by Abbas] with victory." He believes
that Hamas had no intention of taking Gaza until Fatah
forced its hand. "It looks to me that what happened
wasn't so much a coup by Hamas but an attempted coup by
Fatah that was pre-empted before it could happen,"
Wurmser says.

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Michael Johnson, Stamford CT — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:54:01 GMT

The Palestinians are an ass backwards people and the Arabs (Egypt & Jordan) in that neighborhood know it! The Egyptians are prepared (with Soliders not local police) to repel another incursion from Gaza. The Palestinians have a chance to make their own State, make money, make love, and watch their childrens grow up. But they are going to blow this chance, again, and instead blow themselves up. Why? Because they hate Jews. Petty. Only when they love their children more than they hate Jews will there be peace.

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Carmelo Burgaretta, Shrewsbury, New Jersey — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:54:42 GMT

what a pathetic article stay in your favorate state of Israel and stop reporting lies and distortion by blaming the victims of this long and oppressive occupation

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Clarence McDaniel, Williams, Arizona — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:57:40 GMT

This conflict should end or have ended long ago. Unfortunatly it can never end until both sides make an ernest agreement to live side by side in peace. Unfortunately the Arab side will accept nothing less than anialation of the israelis. I can't count how many times peace agreements have been worked out only to see the same attacks by Arab radical groups immediatly resumed. The so called American Satin has contributed hudge amounts to the Palistinian people to impliment these treaties only to see the same conditions resumed immediatly after the treaties are signed and the money is in the bank. How many of these farce peace treaties are we willing to pay for?

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eab — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:00:02 GMT

Israel is in danger of executing a final solution.

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Ben, Minneapolis, MN — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:03:19 GMT

It amazes me that so many people comment on here without knowing their history. But, what can you expect from so many puppet socialist thinkers. Israel was given statehood because no where in the world has been safe for Jews. They were given a tiny piece of land, which most of had already been purchased by Jewish land owners. This land was not being farmed and had little use beforehand. Israil turned this patch of dirt into fertile usable land. They also didn't make the Palestinian Muslims leave. They left on their own based on the prompting of the Islamic nations around Israel. They were told the Jews would kill their children! Nobody took in the Palestinians or helped them. All these oil-rich Muslim nations with thousands of unused acres of land turned their back on the Palestinians. Now that the land is fertile, the Palestinians want the land back! The Palestinians and their selfish, spitefull, and cowardly Islamic neighbors are completely responsible for their plight. You can not blame a country for defending itself, even if that means "occupying" land. Look at a map once and see the difference in land mass owned by each country in the Middle East. Israel has done everything they can in making peace. They don't want war. The Muslims do. The Muslims are at fault in the Middle East plain and simple.

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Toni Bourlon — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:08:19 GMT

Some of these comments are amazing, even mind-boggling. I have said for years, people believe what they want to believe. The truth doesn't matter, not with Hamas and not with most of the posters. Hamas attacks Israel and gets hammered, yet somehow Israel is responsible. Did you people even read the article??? Gazans are now venting their frustration at Egypt, why? Because Egypt has enough of its own problems without having Hamas to deal with, so of course they are cooperating with Israel. And just to show their beligerence, Hamas is prepared to yet again blow up the wall, why? Because they cannot or are not (or both) willing to do what it would take to provide for the Gazans. They want Egypt to do it for them, so they can continue to waste time and resources (and Gazan civillian lives) on a fruitless attack against Israel. Hamas clearly doesn't care about the Gazan civillians, in fact the more deaths the better. And 120 to 3 Israeli deaths is about what you can expect will happen, no surprise. So tell me, why is Hamas doing this? Why did they dig a tunnel and invade Israel after Israel finally pulled out of Gaza and ended the occupation? And what good would it do for Israel to try to talk to them anyway, when its clear that Hamas isn't interested in talk, peace, or anything else? Not even with Egypt. The last poster said "it is difficult to understand why those whose history was of oppression did not care that they tehmselves had become oppressors." That can easily apply to both sides here, and the answer is simple. If oppression is all you know, then that's how you'll act when you finally get some power. Men who abuse their children were abused themselves as children, that's a sad fact of human nature. And that's what's happening here, I know, but I still find myself supporting Israel over Hamas, I guess because I want to believe that they are the victims here. Hamas has never given me a reason to care about them.

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Carmelo Burgaretta, New Jersey — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:08:29 GMT

Martin, your pro Israel bias is obviously showing in this article. First of all let’s be clear, the party that is making Palestinians life miserable is not Hamas but Israel!! Two years ago the Palestinians democratically elected Hamas and they were rewarded by Olmert and Bush with economic strangulation; daily raids into Gaza, fisherman are restricted to fish and basically turned Gaza into the largest prison in the world.

Hamas popularity is increasing due to the facts of the so called “Road Map” to nowhere has not improved the life of Palestinians both in Gaza and the West Bank.
Israel continue building illegal Jews settlements; daily raids in occupied territories killing Palestinians over 290 mostly civilians since the farce Annapolis conference ; even after Hamas maintained a cease fire for two years and have offered a cease fire to Olmert which he refused.
It’s becoming clearer to the Palestinians that Abbas is a lackey for Israel and the US (Bush). Abbas has done nothing to improve Palestinians lives with over 530 check points placing hardship on Palestinians to travel which normally takes to ½ hour to 3or 4 hours.
A number of Palestinians have died at the check point because some young Israeli soldier prevented them to reach the hospital.

You seem to miss the point of why rockets are being fired to Israelis; rockets are always and have been a respond to Israel daily attack on Palestinians both in the West Bank and Gaza. Furthermore, Just like all previous peace initiative if Olmert truly wants peace he would have done long time ago by removing all check points, stop the targeting assassination of Palestinians, remove the illegal settlements and negotiate for the final borders. But he wont

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Aaron bedokh — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:12:36 GMT

G0 Israel destroy all the Hamas people in the world.
Like in the Holy Bible said kill of people hwo want to destroy Israel

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Al Farabi, Dallas, Texas — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:20:02 GMT

"It is difficult to understand why those whose history was of oppression 'did not care that they themselves had become oppressors'." It is not hard to understand that some Jews got tired of depending on others for their survival.

"The only way to be rid of Hamas is to take away their reason for being. Their reason for being is the Palestinian unhappiness with the situation in Gaza." I don't agree; their reason for being is hatred of Israel and Jews, not just to be an armed force for taking territory. I wouldn't compare them to the IRA because I don't think the IRA expected to or cared to wipe England and the English off the face of the Earth.

For Hamas it is not enough to live a civilised, prosperous, peaceful life--they must get rid of Israel and the Jews before they will be satisfied.

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jim crow does'nt work — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:23:06 GMT

Isreal has tried every military technique available, but still conflict continues. We have tried many of the same things in Iraq, with the same results. When there are talks, only the concessions that Isreal thinks that the other side needs, not what the other side requests. Maybe we should give President Carter's approach a chance, an talk to them.

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anne/ ohio — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:24:02 GMT

"jon grander" I agree with what you are saying, sound like the truth to me.

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash. — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:27:13 GMT

Israel has been amazingly restrained in dealing with the "Palestinians." If we had neighbors who have sworn to genocide every one of us simply because we belong to a different religion ( and make no mistake this is about religion not land ), would we have been as patient with them? If we had spent 60 years fighting off repeated genocide attempts and endless waves of terrorism.. would we have given as little response? I think not.. nor do I think any other country would have either.

Israel has tried making concessions to the "Palestinians" and all it's accomplished is more and more and more attacks.. because the only concession the "Palestinians" really want is the ability to slaughter every Jew in Israel. Even then one has to doubt they'd be happy, and has to assume they'd then turn their attention elsewhere.

In short, if your enemy doesn't want peace you're only left with the options of war or surrendor.

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John Sheboygan WI — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:32:36 GMT

Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have more responsibility here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago’s death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. I know deep down in places you dont talk about at parties, you don’t want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to!

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JD — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:34:22 GMT

Remember:
The Jews are God's Chosen People. No force on earth can wipe them out. Read the Bible. Also, by using the Bible, you can map out ALL of the land that was given to them by God - much more than what they are holding at the present time.

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Joe — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:37:17 GMT

My opinion is that a constant low intensity conflict is truelly what benefits Israel most. Of course Israel doesn't want Carter to talk to Hamas in case it shows that it actually might work, and you won't see Israel committing an all out invasion either, because that might work too. Why? How could we justify sending billions and billions of dollars in military aid to a country that is living in peace? A few dead people a day isn't really that big a deal when you have a population of what, 7 million-ish. At the same time, I don't believe Hamas really wants peace either, lest the Palestinian population lose their need for Hamas. I think both sides are willing to accept the dead in exchange for constant power. Therein lies the rub. As much as I think Israel has to shoulder some of the blame, people lose sight of the fact that "martyrdom operations" i.e. sending suicide bombers into crowds of unsuspecting civilians are probably the most dishonorable form of fighting on the planet. It's a complete dirtbag mentality to attack unarmed people.

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3r68utyeu — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:39:36 GMT

this is all bogus

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Open eyes — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:41:28 GMT

It is just amazing how many of you want to side with the Palastinians, oh my, they are being repressed..... well why don't you look at it this way... Every day, rockets, mortor fire, suicide bombers and militant attacks on Civilian Targets come from your neighboring country. Are you going to just let it happen, heck no, your going to go in and try to stop these people any way you can. So why is it that you expect something different than what the Israelis are doing. Israel does not just sit there and fire blindly at Palistinian Civilian targets trying to cause terror like the Palastionians do, they are constantly putting their own people at risk to minimize the Palastinians causulties. If Israel really wanting to inflict as much harm on the civilian population as you seem to say, all they would have to do is sit there with artillery and lay waste to the entire strip, this will never happen, as they do not want to injure the civilian population. Have you not noticed that when there are civilian caualties, it is because the militants hide amoung them.
It is amazing how you complain about the US and Israeli propaganda, but not about the Arab and Palastinian propaganda, which is 100 times more blantantly incorrect and filled with lies.
One more thing, look at Israel a modern and thriving country and then look at the Arab countries around them, still stuck in the 3rd world, with 95% in poverty. Why dont they help rebuild the Palastinian country, because they are totally corrupt, they steal the money, sent by the US, not their Arab "brothers" and leave the Palastinains with nothing. Over the last 30 years, they have received 10s of billians in support, enough money to rebuild their entire country, and what happened to this money, stolen and what was not stolen went to buy, guns, rockets, mortors and explosives. Who is to blame, not Israel, but the Palastinians and their Arab "brothers" themselves.

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Solomon — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:45:13 GMT

Fact: Israel left the Gaza strip. Totally.
Question: What did the 'Palestinians' do with it? With the agricultural equipment and systems left them (bought with European money from Israel)? With their chance to show what they can do towards establishing their own state?
Answer: Nothing. They destroyed everything. If they felt they still had to kill Israelis, they still could have done something towards their own state. Again, Nothing.

Lilly: "But we’ve talked to people who we don’t agree with before. We did it with Rusia." When did Russia attack us with suicide bombers and rockets? And the minute they [only] threatened to do so (by establishing bases in Cuba), we began a blockade.

Mr. Rosenblatt: Right on!

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Steven Lukacs, Livovnia, MI — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:47:01 GMT

Israel had refused to recognize that it cannot exist in the Middle-East without US military and economic support. This vital support is slowly disappearing as the American people are getting tired of bleeding their nation's treasury and making enemies of other nations because of its support for the jewish state. For 60 years, the Israel chose to fight the legitimate aspirations of the surrounding Arab states and peoples. They illegally deported hundreds of thousand of Palestinians from Palestine, attacking neighboring Arab states numerous times and running an apartheid regime in the occupied territories. Israel should evacuate all new settlements and return to the borders of the pre-1967 war. There is no other way Israel can survive on its own.

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Allen Aigen, New York City — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:47:03 GMT

I am amazed at all the support that the Palestinians get. They do not hate Israel because the conditions in Gaza are bad. They hate Israel and all Jews because they group up learning to hate the Jews and that all their problems are caused by Israel and that except for Israel everything would be good. Their leaders do want war, because peace would mean that they are out of business. Iran is building up their missles in reinforced bunkers under poor peoples housing, just like they did in Lebanon. They want Israel to kill civilians to enrage the Moslem world further. They need to have their hatred of Israel reinforced regularly. The only thing that keeps the Palestinians oppresed is their belief that their problems are caused by Israel and the only way to achieve what they want is by destroying Israel.
If the Arab world is so pro-Palestinian, why are they in refugee camps, not integrated into the countries they lived in since 1948 (except for Jordon). Why do Arabs live in Israel as citizens if the Israelis hate them so? When Jerusalem was taken by Jordon, all the Jews were driven out. Why do the Jews let Palestinians live in Israel? The Jews were all removed from Gaza. Did that cause Peace? When they left Lebanon, did that cause peace. Look at more history than the things that you agree with if you want to realy understand the world.

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Gordon Beers — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:50:59 GMT

Luv a good smile. I'm curious how you think the situation should be handled. What plan is going to eventually create a long and lasting peace there? Does it start by opening the boarders and lifting sanctions? What happens as soon as Hammas starts bolwing up busses full of Isreali kids? I am almost convinced that the differences between Isreali leadership and the Palestinian leadership are irreconcilable. So where do we go from here?

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Benson, Calgary, Alberta, Canada — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:54:06 GMT

Unfortunately we live in an imperfect world. The truth is that this is not about politics, peace or anything else logical. It is pure, irrational hate. Check out the comments by Richard Rosenblatt (posted 6:09 yesterday), he's right. Israel tried to talk their way to peace many times, but it takes just 2 or 3 crazies willing to blow themselves up to undo months and years of talks. Israel has over reacted many times as well, but they are faced with 5 nations around them who still demand their total annialation. I notice most of Israels critics come from countries which have no concept of that type of threat. None of the participants in this conflict can win. When hate rules the playing field, there are only degrees of losing. Pity those who are trapped in this cycle, don't perpetuate the hate.

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Michael Buie — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:56:33 GMT

It's funny to see people talk about the "boot of occupation". I only see Israel take action when they are attacked by rockets raingin on their cities, when their chidlren are bombed on a bus, worshippers blasted to smithereens in a temple or old folk wasted in blood at an outside resturant.

I believe the Israeli people want peace, and only the hatred of Hamas and other terrorists keeps this thing going.

Isreal does not call for the destruction of the Palestinians. they re-opne borders as soon as the suicide bombers allow and let Palestinians work and live among them even though any one of them may blow themselves up as well as the people aroudn them. Yet, these haters' stated goal is the destruction of Israel.

If you had an enemy like that, what would you do?

It's idiotic!

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Dr. B, Baltimore — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:00:16 GMT

It is absolutely disgusting that anyone is rooting for someone as vile as Hamas. He would rather right Israel than help his own people! Wake up, anti-Israel dolts! The reason why Israel is so quick to attack 5 times harder than whatever their latest attacker did is because they have to. Face it: If you were surrounded by countries who wanted to wipe you out for as ridiculous a reason as your religion, you would tend to want to attempt to deter attacks by landing a heavy blow on whatever country tries to attack you. I commend Israel for having the will and courage to keep their nation-state together in the face of this brain-washed hatred of the Islamic people as they have and, to be honest, it's one of the very few things I agree with the Bush administration on. If you actually wish for Israel to lose this fight, you are obviously not thinking very deeply about the situation, or you're an idiot.

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Nate Johnson, Tallahassee, Florida — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:05:25 GMT

The irony of what America stands for and what they support from a thug regime posing as a goverment as 'Isreal' speaks volumes at a hieght of hipocracy.

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F Dukes, Los Angeles California — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:06:58 GMT

Israel might be able to bulldoze houses and destroy the infastracture of Gaza, but it will never destroy the will of the people. Israel will eventually draw us into a far bigger and bloodier conflict merely for the fact that we back them.

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jason pa — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:09:56 GMT

its funny, and im not trying to take a side here but, what is the solution, maybe the usa should switch sides maybe we could loan hamas some nukes, then they could wipe isreal off the map, cause anyone who thinks that there goal is anything other then that is an IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!! thats the whole reason they forcefully took power... there gonna continue to fire rockets at isreal untill isreal cant take anymore and they invade and kill them all, and for hamas that is the ultimate victory!!!!!! the whole world is gonna condemn isreal and hamas will look like poor souls who were just minding there own buisness and trying to live peacefull lives.....they know by provoking isreal that they are putting the same people's live's at risk that they claim to represent!!!!! everyday palastinians... i see a one sided argument here... take the peace talks, isreal was supposed to halt construction and abbas was supposed to reing in hamas millitants, but he turns his back on the rocket squads, and isreal keeps building, but ALL THE CRITICISM goes to isreal for breaking the deal.... which yes they are but how do you straight faced claim that the palastinian side is honoring there part? if im an honest palastinaian i should be able to live without boarders, and if im an isreali i should be able to go outside without wondering wether or not im gonna be on the bus with the crazy SOB with a bomb strapped to his arse....

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Buddy Russell — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:10:15 GMT

Every single one of you people that have written ANTI -SEMITIC rant's, obviously don't read the BIBLE or believe in GOD. You wouldn't be so quick to bring destruction upon you own heads if you had . The Lord promised to bless those who bless ISREAL and DESTROY those who persecute them! This is why the US has had such a great standard of living as compared to the rest of the world. But....as you can see by alot of the postings here ,that not only has AMERICA started bashing Isreal they also have gotten away from GOD. As a consequence we now are beginning to suffer POVERTY, HUNGER,HOMELESSNESS and our standard of living is plummeting at a disasterous rate and we brought it on ourselves, BLAMING ISREAL!!! That is the most uneducated thing I have ever heard an americans say , OUR problems are Isreals fault and not our OWN crooked GOVT is about as ignorant as you can get! Where do you come up with that kind of NAZI/MUSLIM reteric anyway? JIHAD is a war against the free world,It's one and ONLY goal is to FORCE all mankind to worship ALLAH and if you think it's not your either part of the LIE or in complete DENIAL.And to blame ISREAL is ABSURD, Wake up AMERICA

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Ahmed, S.I., NY — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:11:25 GMT

I just hope that there will be stoppage to the injustice and genocide afflicted to the Muslims in Palestine by the Israeli Occupiers. We here in the US do not see the severity of what is afflicted to the Muslims in Palestine because our media is controlled. Why don't we see what how the Israelis sit in their towers and shoot anywhere and everywhere. Why don't we see the bullet scarred buildings in Muslim areas? Imagine yourself living in this type of environment, an environment worse than jail, even worse than the internment camps that the jews were in during the supposed holocaust.

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george a. hilborn,birmingham,michigan — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:16:23 GMT

"blessed are the peacemakers..." That is still a good matra . The American revolution on the intellectual basis was led by two men who the British typified as "terrorists" John Adams and Thomas Jefferson one a Unitarian and the other a Deist who couldn't stand the Church of England or organized religion or the parlamentary system. Hamas was elected to power by the majority of the people but we and the Israeli government say we only like free elections when they come out the way we like. We and the Israeli government have given away the moral high ground worldwide on this issue. I think we care as a people but I don't think the Israeli government cares or do they think world opinion applys to them. Carter should continue to do his bidding no matter what the candidates or the Fourth Reich Whitehouse says or some "nut jobs" who want to pull his passport

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David Pressler, Northridge, California, USA — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:17:24 GMT

First of all: Yes... It was Golda Meir who said "There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews."
Some history: Yes... The Jews returned(!) to Israel and they did so with the full agreement of the UN. And they returned to an EMPTY and WILD land. Look at it now... And it was David Ben-Gurion and Chaim Weissman who agreed to get whatever was given to them while the Arabs always said NO!!!... And they still do. Meanwhile Israel is flourishing while the Palestinians have done NOTHING except rely on the UN for food while their Arab brothers(?) stood by and let them rot in their squalid camps. And in the final analysis Hammas is popular because it DOES SOMETHING instead of NOTHING... In case you haven't noticed, being a 'fighter' living off the population is much easier than actually WORKING for a living. You'd be astounded how much the Palestinians can gain by saying YES just once. The bottom line is that if I am armed and someone comes into my home and takes a shot at me, I'll shoot him whether he missed me or not. And that's what Israel is doing and it is very well armed, thanks G-d. Yes, yes and yes. It's high time Israel has cleaned out the Hammas snakepit infrastructure and allowed Abbas to say Yes so that peace will have a chance in the ME.

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INFECT TRUTH — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:23:30 GMT

The world stands by as another HOLOCAUST takes place. Only now it's the Palestinians who are suffering with little power and a few weapons. (Does anybody remember the Palestinian kids throwing stones at the Israel TANKS!!!)

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JerUSAlem — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:26:41 GMT

"And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed." ...Genesis 12:3. Why do you think America is the "Blessed Nation" we have come to know? God Bless America?? If you are unhappy with US support of Israel, so be it. Move to Iran if you'd like. United States' doom will come the day it drops support of Israel. "Cursed be everyone who curses you [Israel],
and blessed be those who bless you [Israel]."(Gen 27:29)

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A Proud American — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:32:16 GMT

Let's all remember that the "real terrorists" were the Jews (pre-1948)now Israelis and the massacres they inflicted upon the Palestinian Arabs and the British residing in Arab Palestine. The Israelis are our "allies" what a joke !!! When has Israel ever helped the United States ? oh yes they did destroy the USS Liberty in 1967 and claimed it was an accident. Israel also used Jonathan Pollard to steal more government documents from the United States than anyone else. Oh let's not forget the AIPAC and the Israeli lobby running the US CONGRESS and SENATE. Of course the billions we give Israel to kill and destroy Palestinian lands and homes are OK. Enough said. Bravo to Jimmy Carter and the real Nobel Peace maker.

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Asfand Ali, Peshawar, Pakistan — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:34:01 GMT

I'm really happy to see that majority of americans know that there media is spreading anti-muslim propaganda. Bravo!.
I know that the muslim countries have neglegible unity which can be clearly seen by the closing of its borders by egypt. I wish if we could unify ourselves just a little we can end this conflict easily and I feel very ashamed that we have been unable to this in the past 40 years.
When you bomb a population for so long they are bound to defend themselves one way or the other. The children who are seen wearing hamas head bands are born in this state of conflict, have seen their houses being blown apart and their parents killed so what else can you expect from them?
These atrocities against the palestinians have been going on for ages now and someday I am sure the rogue state of Israel will pay for it.

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oea — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:45:20 GMT

Israel does whatever it wants, as long as the US government and media keep supporting it. Israel has been condemn in the UN General Assembly many many times, the only reason the Security Council cannot enforce it is because we, the US veto it all the time.
They also kill children, bystanders, journalists, then they regret it and call it collateral damage. They also developed and posses WMD, therein Iran's desire to do the same.
Israel's Zionist government, Hamas, and Hezbollah are all terrorist criminals, that would have found the way to fix their own disagreement by force or talks, long time ago, if the US wouldn't be there to mess things up. After almost 40 years of American meddling in the Arab-Israeli conflict there is no peace, just more innocent deads.

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David, Los Angeles — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:46:02 GMT

I would like to recomment the book, "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" by former president Jimmy Carter. You will find that he is probably one of the formost experts on the middle east and one who would like to bring about a just peace. He points out many of the things that Israel has been doing in violation of international law and the hardships they impose on the Palestinian people. Unfortunately there are many extreme right wingers in Israel who do not want peace, they just want more land, especially Jerusalem.

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Ilya, Southfield, MI — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:51:30 GMT

The level of anti- Semitisim and ignorance evident in about 90% the comments on this article is increadible. The most glaring example being reducing THOUTHANDS of Kasams that fell on southern Israel to 4. But I gues the aninimaty of the web makes this kind of blind hate eazer to spew.

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bill willey — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:59:48 GMT

I truly beleive that if anyone dislikes America so bad that they have the right to leave and go where they wish to go, and the people of the Grand Ole U.S.A. would probably pay for their ticket one way. This is the greatest nation in the civilized world and we probably help more people around the world than anyother country and what do we get in return? When the U.S.A. has a disaster I've yet to see any other4 country help us as we help them. If we have to get out of other countrys then lets just keep all of the good deeds also.

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ERIC — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:02:01 GMT

I AM WONDERING WHY THE U S WHO ARE ALWAYS GOING DEMOCRACY CAN'T ACCEPT HAMAS WINNING THE ELECTION THAT THE UNITED STATE WANTED

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Demian — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:05:27 GMT

Mr. Fletcher,

Your analysis is terrible. The idea that an Israeli battle with Hamas will detroy Hamas is very shorsighted for a reporter with your experience.

Hamas wins because they are the only party in Palestine who understands that with peace must come dignity. Something that Fatah is learning the hard way with their recent "peace discussions" with Israel. Israel does not negotiate it takes, and quite brazenly.

Do you know why Israel is called the little Satan, it is because of their ability to get away with murder and humilation, and then talk about peace and love all the while they take the water and land, and rights of Palestinians.
And that hubris on their part reflects on us, because we protect Israel.
Your analysis shows that you have lost your objectivity. Time to report about Queens NY.

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SAY NO TO APARTHEID — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:08:11 GMT

"Storm of rockets" from Gaza??? So less than a couple of dozen home-made very-short-range rockets is a storm???

Bull crap.

Same Israeli nonsense and propaganda as when Israel sent hundreds of sordies into Lebanon destroying apartment buildings, bridges and bus loads of people.

When Hezbollah sent scores of missles into Northern Israel, in response to the outrageous Israeli bombings of Lebanon, AND ALL WE HEARD FROM THE MEDIA WAS, "HEZBOLLAH IS BOMBING ISRAEL!!".

Over 1000 Lebanese died, almost ALL civilians. About 100 Israelis died, 80 were troops.

And let's not forget why Hamas hates Israel - Israeli land theft and ethnic cleansing.

Israel lies, its neighbors die.

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Gabor B, Seattle, WA. — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:23:01 GMT

I hope Israel will win ! Anybody with a working brain should see these arab camel jockeys don't want to do anything else, but kill jewish people. They don't want to work and have a nice country. I am not jewish, but if I was the PM of Israel I would wipe off the map the Hamas controled Gaza and I would take care of Iran and Syria too. I am really bothered by people not looking at things from the side of Israel. These jihadist a..holes should be killed. Don't take prisoners, kill 'em on site. Those who hate jews, because they have all the money, just think for a minute, they are going to school to become someone worthy a doctor or a lawyer. It is all because family is important to them. They are the ones who don't mind spending money for there children's schooling. In there world FAMILY comes first. You don't see jews blowing up planes, do you? People here in the US do not realize what they go thru every day, not knowing when will the next rocket come or when will someone blow up a bus full of kids. Just stop for a minute and think how would you feel if here in the US you would have to fear going shopping or getting on a bus, because you don't when one of these terrorist will get you blown up. Go Israel! Take no prisoners, take no s..t ! Send the jihadists to see the 72 virgins. They might even meet Mohammed in Hell!

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Yael- Phoenix Arizona — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:26:52 GMT

Israel has the right to defend itself. Hamas should learn to spend their multi million funds more effectively, to wit: Infrastructure, hospitals, factories, encourage enterpreneurship, build roads, schools, universities, plant gardens, beautify their land, make the land productive, this will encourage their citizens be proud to be human who love life and want to live in an stmosphere where music, art and culture thrives. Where the sounds of war and destruction are heard no more and their children become people who strive to thrive in an enriching social fabric. Learn from Israel, don't destroy it, emulate success and banish fear.

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Yael- Phoenix Arizona — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:28:03 GMT

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chuck st. paul mn — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:29:10 GMT

Im disapointed in the article but impressed by the responses. You take away the few racist and ignorant coments from both sides of the spectrum and your left with some thoughtful insight. In a country were commen sense is usualy drowned out by nationalism and religouse intolerence its good to see people using there head. The idea that you can kill everyone that disagrees with you is just crazy. Isreal and Bush gave hamas power by tryign to isolate fatah and arafat before he died . History in the muslim world shows that even if you could destroy hamas (you cant)a more radical militarized force would spring up in its place.example hamas,hezbolah,islamic jihad/Iraq,the Iranian revolution after we removed a secular government and replaced with the shaw of iran. lets stop making these same mistakes over and over were already suppling military aid to all sides in iraq sunis, rival shiites partys, kurds(while supporting turkey attacks on the kurds) increased military aid to saudi arabia to combat the increased power and influence of iran(thanks to ill planned invasion of a neihbor) and increased military aid to Isreal to combat the increased military aid to saudi arabia ????/? dose this make any sence? We throw money and bombs at our problems overseas, while ignoring our problems at home. Both situations are getting worse.

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Dog, DC — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:32:18 GMT

There have never been any angels in this conflict. Realize that Hamas is and always will be dedicated to the destruction of Israel. Complaints about the restrictions that are placed on them is misguided and a waste of time. They take and utilize any opportunity and/or method to attack and kill Israeli's. Yes, that even includes hiding the explosive materials they need in the bedding, clothing, luggage and automobiles of the individuals that are being transported to medical facilities over the border. Nobody should fault the Israeli's for being suspicious of anything and everyone that crosses the border. Israel on the other hand (and I will never understand by the way) never seems to miss a chance to poke the Palestinians in the eye by building more settlements, roads, etc. when it is totally unnecessary. It's hard to make their case when they knowingly break international as well as their own laws building illegal settlements. As a non-Jew American that lived there for several years I was able to look on the entire issue from both sides. I have to say again, there are no angels in this conflict. Lastly, NEVERY BELIEVE ANY AMERICAN MEDIA COVERAGE FROM ISRAEL. ESPECIALLY ANYTHING FROM NBC.

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Al, Los Angeles, CA — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:37:23 GMT

Emotional comments on both sides of the argument. Consider some facts: 1. Taba Accords- Clinton,
Arafat. Per Dennis Ross negotiator: PLA got 98% of what they wanted, but the deal said "the war is over." Arafat negotiators tell him to do. He walks out.
2. Israel unilateraly exits Gaza without a deal. Hamas sees this as weakness and starts firing rockets into Israel instead of rebuilding.
3. Lebanese Rafie Harari, who is against Syrian control of Lebanon is murdered on Feb 16, 2005. The suspect is Syria. Anti-Syria demonstration in Lebanon
on 3rd anniversary/ 2008. By "coincidence" top
Syrian/Iranian terrorist Imad Mughniyah is assasinated
day before in Syria. This forments Pro Syrian demonstrations in Lebanon same time as the Anti-Syrian demonstration. Syrians blame Israel for the Imad murder..in the heart of Damascus, in daytime.
Sure. Israel does it to take away limelight from Anti-Syrian demonstrations in Lebanon. Get a brain. Syria was always the spoiler in the Middle East peace process.

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Matt, Indianapolis, IN — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:42:42 GMT

The Arabs have engaged in a long and successful propaganda campaign against democratic Isreal since the 1950's. One of Yasar Arafat's relatives had a compact with the Nazi's to wipe out the Jews in the region should Germany win the war. They regularly recycle Nazi anti Jewish literature. Their religion is a religion of death. There are no Palistinians, only Arabs. Mark Twain commented that the region (Holy Land) was nearly devoid of people and now all these Arabs, who are not welcome back into their original territory now located in Jordan, want to clain right of return. More propoganda. Religion of death. And has been so since it's inception.

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Michael Buie — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:43:49 GMT

Ahmed, those bullet-scarred buildings are a result of retaliation from when Hamas relentlessly rains down rockets on Israeli towns.

I would bet my next paycheck if Hamas nor any other middle-east country fired another shot, rocket or blow up a bomb at Israel, Israel would not attack them.

Are you willing to bet your paycheck on Hamas not attacking Israel under the same conditions? I think we all know the answer ...

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Chad Major, St. Cloud, MN — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:44:18 GMT

I don't see why americans, will blame the american government or Isreali goverment for being in the wrong. Saying that there the cause for all the disruption, it just blows my mind. Would any of you that think this crisis is our fault (Americans and isreal) are hyprocrates. If you had a group of murders that lived in a section of town, where they repeatedly came into your nieghborhood and killed civilians and shot mortors into the middle of your nieghborhood, you would demand that the goverment protect you. But since it is happening somewhere else, then it's not your care, and you can sit comfortable at your computer and say the hamas aren't a bunch of radical murders. That is so ridiculus, isreal is trying to live in peace on there land, that they fought for, to provide their citizen a safe place to worship and raise there children. The isreal should be praised for showing restraint and working towards peace, not criticized for trying to protect themselfs. It disgraces me that there are so many thoughtless and and anti-americans in america. Maybe the ones that think hamas are the good guys should all pack up there stuff and live with them, then tell me that they are the innocent ones. I doubt that the anti-americans wouldn't last more than a day there, once you take away your MTV, and your Desperate house wifes, and everything else your freedam in america offers you. That just shows you don't appreciate what you have till it is gone. Like I said if you don't like america, then move we will not be one bit dissapointed about you leaving us.

Proud american, for justice and peace.

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Matt, Indianapolis, IN — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:45:01 GMT

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Michael Buie — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:45:29 GMT

Michael Johnson, Stamford CT speaks true

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P.M. New Jersey — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:46:30 GMT

When Hamas was elected, the U.S. AND the European Union wanted them to renounce violence and the goal of the DESTRUCTION of Israel. They refused. When Israel pulled out of Gaza and tore down all Jewish settlements in the strip, Hamas continued to ambush Israeli soldiers and fire rockets into Israel. Hamas' only reason for existence is destruction and warfare. They feed upon the death of their own people, because it facilitates their desire to vilify Israel and continue the fight.

Arabs are their own worst enemy. They have perpetuated the Palestinian situation since '48 by maintaining Palestinian refugee camps and helping to fuel the conflict so that they may continue to have a "legitimate" grievance against Israel. They cry outrage at the Palestinian situation, but none of them wants to take them in.

Entities like Iran have no issue with sending Palestinian children to their deaths in order to further their goal of "wiping Israel off the map." You all cry about the injustice the Palestinians suffer, and blame it all on Israel, yet say nothing about their Arab brothers who use them happily as fodder to continue the conflict. Egypt will not open their border with Gaza...what does that say?

I am not holding Israel up on some pedestal either. They have done many harsh things in this decades long conflict. But I call it as I see it.

Groups like Hamas and Hezbola DO want war for war's sake. Every time things start to get quiet, they make sure they provoke Israel into killing some civilians in order to generate global condemnation and stoke the fire again. The three most popular arab "leaders" can only exist in an atmosphere of conflict and hatred.

Oh and let's not forget, it's all in the name of "god". This giant fiction is the biggest farce of all. Strange how this "god" character has yet to help its chosen people (on either side) carry the day. The human race is still such a primitive people.

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Keith Milliner, Far Rockaway. NY — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:46:49 GMT

HAHAHAHAHAHA, A Frigging Pakistani venting about Israel, Pakistan is one of the poorest places on Earth while India prospers, sound familiar, why are 90% of the world's poorest countries Muslim? Maybe hatred just doesn't cut it, maybe having indoctrination instead of common decency doesn't cut it, when all of these pariahs accept peace, they will obtain grace, until then, let them eat *#it and die

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Pat Frey — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:50:39 GMT

If Jimmy Carter has the same success with Hamas as he had in th U.S. when he was president, we will not have to worry. They are all doomed

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John Doe — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:52:49 GMT

Israel was attacked in 1948. Israel was attacked in 1967. Their enemies get what they deserve. If the Palestinians want a homeland, let them go to Jordan or Syria, and let them see how welcome they are there. No ones asking those countries to give up any land. If Isarel wasn't attacked in the six day war, the West Bank wouldn't have become a "spoil of war" too bad for the aggressors. They should have left Israel alone.

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Joe — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:55:23 GMT

Let me see here. Hamas lobs rockets into Israel and doesn't expect a response? They really do need to get out of the sun there. What do they expect Israel to do? What would you do? These guys don't want peace. if they really wanted peace and better their people they would stop this crap and sit down at a table work out a real deal. This whole thing of they can't get along? Look at all the different cultures we have in the USA and we do pretty good. Yes we have our problems but it's not too bad. Palestine would be in great shape and would even make millions from tourism and such if they cut the bombings. From what I have read it is a beautiful area. It is a religous area for more than just them. They should be capitalizing on this and profit from it. Their people would be educated much better. Fed better and support from almost every country in the world.

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Damian Pelster, Burlington, Kentucky — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:10:26 GMT

What a shame that our government supports the subjugation of the Palestinian people through gifts of weaponry. Is this the dream of our forefathers, to support our bloated standard of living at any cost through military threat? It's a sad day in America. Let's have the truth. Let's take care of our own country through true technological improvements to sustain and better our world, instead of using a puppet government to exert control on the middle east to secure our supply of polluting black sludge pumped from the sands. We have the technology. When will the people wake up and stand up?

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Lee — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:13:06 GMT

I am dismayed to read a lot of lies and revsionism in these comments. Typical of some jews and supporters of zionism who comment here, they attack Palestinians personally and accuse ALL Palestinians of being unresonable and death mongers. Nothing is farther from the truth. Most Palestinians are actually reasonable and nice hospitable people. In 1948, the united nations partitioned Palestine into two sections (illegally in my opinion) nevertheless, the armed jews in Palestine immediately siezed that opportunity and through force of arms occupied both the Palestinian and Jewish sections. They did so without regard to the united nations rule of partition. The israelis later pre emptively struck using their built up army and air force and occupied the west bank (belonging to Jordan) and Gaza and the sinai penninsula both belonging to egypt. They also occupied the Golan heights belonging to Syria. In 1973, egypt struck back and recaptured the sinai penninsula and destroyed the barlev lines that were advertised as impenetrable by israel. The U.S. conducted an airlift and sent a lot of weaponry to israel awhich continued the war and were able to defend themselves against the advancng egyptians. In 1982 israel invaded and occupied south lebanon and held on to it for almost twenty years. Had it not for the Lebanese resistance, they would have still been there today. A lot of people on here will tell you that jews bought Palestine and that Palestinians left on their own. That is nonsense. There were israelis massacres like deir yassin where entire villages were wiped out and innocent Palestinian civilians were outright murdered and driven from their lands. The revisionists will use every plausible story to implant doubt into the minds of the casual reader but the TOTALITY of evidence is clearly against israel and the jews who simply invade and conquer by force of arms. israel only negotiates with the strong and tramples the weak. Hamas has learned this lesson and has instilled the thought of wiping israel out into the minds and hearts of Palestinians simply because they clearly see that NOTHING else will get them their freedom. They are fighting an enemy hellbent on destroying them slowly by choking them and by committing a genocide in slow motion against them. We have all seen the way the israeli offensive forces kill innocent Palestinian civilians DAILY in Gaza claiming that seven year old boys are actually Hamas leaders and are involved in firing rockets. The american media which is controlled by zionism furthers this distortion of the truth by ommitting facts and advertising the myth that ALL Palestinians are evil people who just want to kill israelis. This is absolute nonsense and anyone who believes that is simply brainwashed by the media machine in the U.S. Remember that we have been subjected to a slanted version of the truth for a long long time and it will take an intelligent subjective mind to be able to put things into perspective and see the reality of the matter. Meanwhile, let's hope that we all figure out the real truth behind this divisive and extremely delicate issue. God bless the poor souls who died and were murdered on both sides!

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Northern Light in Israel — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:14:52 GMT

Israel has talked to the Palestinians countless times. They never kept a promise. The word compromise does not exist in their vocabulary.

There is no rational reason for the chaos that is going on in Gaza today. After the Israelis left the Gaza strip nearly three years ago, there was a golden opportunity for the Palestinians to build up infrastructure, economy, a functioning embryo state.

Olmert was voted into office in order to take Israel out of the West Bank. That was his agenda.

What happened instead? Hezbollah and Hamas attacked. How can you expect Israel to leave the Westbank when the population centers of Israel are less than 100 miles from the West Bank with its brutal rhetorics and weapon fetishism?

I'd love to see all you clever left wing Americans when rockets are raining on your homes, schools and kindergartens, day in, day out. And the world bleats: keep still! don't react! you might hurt one the guys who launch these rockets!

We've had enough, really.

Israel proved to the world that it's able to make peace and keep peace - the Sinai peninsula is larger than Israel itself, and Israel gave it to the Egyptians in exchange for peace. Israel made peace with Jordan.

Had the Palestinians less inclination to terror and violence, they would sit in their own snug state long ago, and all would be well.

Does anyone here at all remember why Israel occupied the territories in question? Did anyone here hear about the Six Day War, an attack on Israel?

Without Arab attacks on Israel, none of this had happened. By simply accepting this tiny speck of Jewish State, the whole ME conflict had never happened.

It makes me really sad to see Americans talk like Europeans, knee jerk automatic support for the Palestinian narrative, Palestinian lies. I expected more from Americans, somehow. ...

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Mike H — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:19:10 GMT

v racer says the palestinians follow an insane religion, V, shame on you. this is politics not religion.( DO OT GET ME STARTED). In New Hampshire we have on our license plates " LIVE FREE OR DIE" . The palestinians are trying for 60 years to live FREE and they, one day will, even if it costs them their lives, did we fight the British in the 1700's for freedom? what is the difference? Israel is our best ally because we GIVE israel 3+ billion dollars free to be our friends, believe me we buy their friendship. My question to America is DO WE REALLY SUPPORT ISRAEL" RIGHT OR WRONG " BECAUSE WE LOVE ISRAEL SO MUCH OR BECAUSE WE HATE THE ARABS SO MUCH? either way WHY?

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victor martinez, brooklyn n.y — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:21:02 GMT

This message is to all defenders of palestinians and their cause, you ought to be gratefull that the only "enemy" they have is Israel and the Jews for should it have been their misfortune to have Chinese or Russians as their neighbors they would a foot note to the general history of humankind a long time ago just like Chechens or Tibetans are. It is this lack of killer instict that is displayed by Israelis or jews in general that is their down fall. I am not going to forget an article written some years ago by George Will in which he cited that if jews and jewish were not subject of countless persecution in the past The State of Israel today would have 270 mil inhabitants instaed of only about 17 mil in the whole world. But alas, so far neither the jews or the Israelis demonstrated the grit and the determination sufficiently to convince their enemies, whether they are arabs or simply neo nazis or garden variety anti semites they are willing to fight to the last arab or neo nazi , or antisemite standing. I firmly believe that the only language sub humans like that comprehend is the language of un imaginable brutality that we witnessed in Chechnya or to a lesser degree in Tibet. The history demonstrated that conflicts are settled only when there was a decisive,one sided victories. No lasting peace was ever achieved through negotiations.

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Benr — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:23:08 GMT

I can't beleive the ignorants of the people who write in on importatnt issues. I can see by peoples comments why the US is declining as a super power in the world. When pepole make assumption without knowing facts it becomes very dangerouse. For all those who don't know Gaza is controlled by a terrorist organization funded by Iran. Do you really think Israel would attack Gaza if rockets weren't being fired at civiilian populations? What would the US do if mexico shot rockets? Would they do nothing ?

Not to mention there is a difference between intentionally targeting civilains (Hamas) and targeting terrorist who are firing rockets. The primary reason for Hamas attacking civilian population is the hope of breaking the people, since they know they can't defeat Israeli mlitary. This is a widely known tactic which worked on the US in Lebanon (The Terroris attack on the US Bararck).

Hamas will only continue to bring anarchy and destruction to Palestians in Gaza. I think Mr Carter is a disgrace, and all he's doing is creating more hostility.

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Bob, New York, NY — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:24:04 GMT

It never ceases to amaze me how people think that because Hamas came to power via a semi-democratic process we have to embrace them. Hitler came to power via a legit democratic process.

At least with the German people you can make some argument that they didn't fully understand what Hitler was about. With Hamas, their bloodthirsty, genocidal desires are open knowledge.. and yet the "Palestinian" population embraces them and their goals. One can only assume because the "Palestinians" as a whole share Hamas' bloodlust.

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j. overlin — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:25:05 GMT

GIVE ME A BREAK!! Jimmy Carter's attempt to negociate with Iran during the hostage situation during his term as president,and the lack of any kind of BALLS dealing with that situation has left us with with YEARS of suicide bombings, airplane hijackings, etc. When we as Americans realize that these conflicts (wars) are not political, but religious, then we can make some headway. When the Palistinians fire no more rockets or send no more suicide bomers to Isreal, Isreal will take no military action against them.

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ken s, portland Oregon — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:28:05 GMT

Would anyone accept some of those "innocent" peoples from Gaza to come live next door in their own neighborhood?

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Larry, East Greenwich, Rhode Island — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:28:30 GMT

"I think it might have been Golda Meir who said that there will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews." I'd never heard that before. What an excellent quote - and so true. Think about it... what race - what species - is so willing to sacrifice its young in the furtherance of hate. You can banter back and forth all you want but this behavior speaks volumes. Think about, people. Would you sacrifice your child in interest of promoting hate?

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Brian, New Jersey — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:28:59 GMT

During Arafat's lifetime it was said that "the Palestinians never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity". So many times the Palestinians were offered statehood and recognition for simply recognizing the right of Israel to exsist. And they refused. They attacked, they kidnapped, they slaughtered and they wondered why they had few friends other than with rogue nations like the thugs in Syria, Iran and Cuba.

Then there's a split between Fatah and Hamas. And its followed by a mass exodus of Palestinians from Gaza to the West Bank where they felt there was hope for a peaceful coexistence with Israel. Palestinians in the West Bank have freedom of movement and self-governance. Their leaders receive audiences and assistance from nations around the world.

But in Gaza...the people handed their government over to terrorists. And then they wonder why their lives are miserable and they have no freedom.

One day in the near future Israel will be provoked into attacking Hamas and will once and for all destroy the terrorists in the West Bank. On that day the Palestinian people will have a brief window to reassess their decisions and to come to the conclusion that their choice is either peaceful co-exsistence, or anarchy.

The plight of the Palestinains today is their own fault. They must change their future, no one else can do it for them.

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Riaz, Seattle — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:31:11 GMT

When people have nothing to hope for, they opt for suicide as an option. So it is certain that Palestinians would like to die rather than live in "extended prison". Can't blame them - what they say "give me liberty or give me death".

Now add to that Hamas telling them that if they die fighting Israel, they will go to heaven. A much better option than suicide, even though a fight against Israel is also a certain death.

Carter understand this, that is why he wants to bring hope to Palestinians. That is the only way. Arafat gave them hope that is why his party rarely had suicide bombers.

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Wake up, USA — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:35:49 GMT

How is it that so few see that Palestinians do not want their own country. What they do want is the elimination of Israel. This has been proven time and again by their refusal to negotiate in good faith and continued attacks on Israel (rockets and homicide/suicide bombers). They still hate Jews more than they love their children.

Problems between Israel and Palestinians will not end until there is no one to have a problem with. That's right, why not say what everybody already knows, the population of Gaza must be removed. Send them to the West Bank, to Jordan, to Egypt, or just bomb the place to smitherines.

Of course this isn't PC. The bleeding-hearts will have non of it... Unless it was them. Unless the rockets would be falling in their backyard.

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Alan ------Salt Lake, Utah — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:38:35 GMT

History has shown us that the people3 of the middle east have a long and bloody past. They seem to be only be ruled by fear. If any society has to have a " Religious Police" to make sure that everyone will believe as they are told to and not have any will of their own then there will always be unrest and war. You would think that by now they would have learned that you can kill the person but not the idea. At times they appear to be like a mindless rabble willing to follow anyone for the sake of being able to kill someone.

By now the governments of the world should have seen that after several thousand years of the same pattern that there is no way that they will change. Anyone that thinks that it will happen is sadly mistaken and many more lives will be lost in the process of learning this simple truth.

We now have the olc and classic example of a monkey sitting on a powder keg playing with matches. How long before it blows. If anyone thinks that those so called leadrs that are doing their level best to obtain workable nuclear weapons and use them no matter how many of their own people they kill will hesitate, well you are sadly mistaken. The leader of Iran has already sworn to destroy Isreal. Do you really think that he would wait to evacuate all of the muslims first. No, he would just launch and say that is Allahs will. So ten's of thousands of innicent muslims would also die to please him. The people of this world had better wake up and smell the coffee. We had all better start learning to live with one and another or soon there will not be any one here at all.

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Eric, Troy, NY — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:39:17 GMT

Palestinians have long has support from every Islamic nation due to the religious duty imposed on Muslims to retake "Muslim land" from the UN created Israeli state. That issue will never be settled until "Israel is wiped off the map". Hamas and most Palestinians believe they shoud die trying to reclaim what they are in belief of is their holy land.

What is odd is the Jews have a far older tie to the land as do christians and there is recognition of this fact however the common teaching in Islam is that Mohammed was the foretold "second coming" of christ and Islam is the only true religion in the world. All other religions are falsely following the "one god, Allah" or are completely without god and are idolators or infidels. Their war is therefore not political at all and can not be bargained into a truce. Israelis will have to convert to Islam to end the killing.

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Jamie — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:48:36 GMT

Yes, Diplomacy rules!

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Gary Trel — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:51:43 GMT

Israel has withdrawn from Sinai and Gaza, destroyed the settlements, wants to give more for peace.
Everybody knows,at least from the Bible, about the historic land of Israel.
One, who calls Israel "an occupier", is simply dishonest or ideolog. "Palestinians(who are arabls and not an ethnic group or nation)" are just pawns in the radical Islam strategy of proliferation, where one of the piciples says don't leave the land you stepped in.
Looks what happend to Konstantinopol.
Look at Kocovo.

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Al / South Carolina — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:54:02 GMT

It frustrates me that our country's media is so biased in favor of Israel. How can the giant media companies justify assigning Jewish reporters to cover the Isreal/Palestinian conflict? Their reports are guaranteed to favor the Israeli position on every issue regarding this illegal occupation of Palestinian territory. Fletcher's article is laying the ground work to justify a mass slaughter of the people of Gaza. Just as the neocons used WMDs as the justification for the U.S. attack of Iraq.

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Tom, Chicago — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:04:16 GMT

With its stubborn decision to cling to its control of the Palestinians' land, Israel has faced over the long term the same dilemma that the United States has faced in the short term in Iraq. Its enormous firepower can maintain its military control indefinitely but at a mounting cost that at some point must become intolerable. Israeli terror can't make the Palestinians agree to accept their oppression. And the longer the oppression lasts, the deeper the hatred and willingness to sacrifice all else on the part of their victims. Like the defenders of apartheid in South Africa, all Israelis secretly fear the consequences of putting a stop to what they must know in their hearts to be evil: "If we were to stop imprisoning and murdering them, they will come to seek their revenge against us." Yet the case of South Africa shows that ending racist oppression doesn't necessarily lead to a bloodbath. In finding an peaceful exit to such dilemmas, much more depends on the oppressors than on the oppressed.

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Jessica K. — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:17:23 GMT

This is again, a totally one sided, biased story.
Why would Hamas welcome a "bloodbath" with Israel? Has anyone stopped to think that Hamas is not able to bring aid, relief and security to their people because they have are denied all resources to do so by the Israeli governement?
I am so sick and tired of hearing about all the horrible things Hamas and all Palestinians are purported to do w/o any mention of WHY they must go to these extreme lenghts! Do they not have a right to defend the people in Gaza who are being wiped out by the hundreds EVERY SINGLE DAY? I don't know about anybody else, but if some person tried to bulldoze my home, seperate me from family, medical care, food and water and then made obvious attempts to kill not only me but all the other peope around me, including children, I woud fight back too. But of course, we'll never hear about any of that in this US Funded genocide.

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JD — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:18:32 GMT

Right, lets give them WHAT THEY WANT!!! That works. I mean thats how we train our kids right? If they scream and kick we hand them things. If they can justify what they want.. HERE ITS YOURS.

How about you morons that think that way stand down when someone decides they want YOUR house, your WIFE, your daughter.... Or would you fight for it?

How about this for a chance? Stop WATCHING your opinions and go to a library get a BOOK and READ!! Find out what happened in Israel. You may get to read about the US Dr.s and Nurses that were burned to death in 1930 by the PLA in an attempt to cleanse the area. Or maybe you will read about the payments the Palestinians received to leave their homes that they want back now. Or maybe you will read about the Jordanian TANKS that rolled over the palestinians in 1960 when they tried to tank over that country.

Or Maybe when they try to do the SAME thing to egypt you will finally grasp that its not what CNN, MSNBC and the passive people you cherish want you to believe.
I will forever pity the man whose manhood is shore off by fear to stand for himself.

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Lori, Woodmere, NY — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:22:39 GMT

As I read all of the posts, something occured to me: do any of you actually know what is going on in Israel??? Yes, I know that some of you gave a history lesson--on the ball, and others have commented in suport of Israel, while still others must live in a black hole to support Hamas! Israel gave up land won in a war--can anyone name any country who has done that??? THINK NOT! And what has the Palistinians done with the land? NOTHING!!!! They claim that poverty is running rampid in Gaza, well, it wasn't when Israeli's where living there--why?? Golda Meir was so on the money when she said "there will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews". Why do they hate the Jews so much?? Because thier parents hate them, and why do the parents hate the Jews? Because their parents hated them--get the picture??? And what about poor Sderot (? spelling), village in Israel that is bombed daily, why because it is located in Israel. I feel sorry for the ones that do not understand what is going on in Israel and still feel the need to comment badly about Israel. I think you should be more informed before you voice an opionin

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old — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:23:02 GMT

It's good that people are waking up to the oppression that Istael is putting on the Palestianian people. Most of the problems in that region of the world are almost wholly attributable to Israel's holocaust against these people. I think its outrageous that Israel did not wish to assist with President Carter's security during his recent visit to the area; a courtesy normally extended to high level visitors from our country. It's funny how no outrage was expressed in the media at all.

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Rob, USA — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:31:08 GMT

Fred....Yeah...Let's talk with a group that has killed in the name of what?? Peasce?? Let's talk with a group that lives and dies by terrorism....Gee...Why didn't we just TALK to Hitler into stopping his killing...Why don't we just TALK with the psychos in the Sudan to stop the massacres....
The reason we DON'T is because they don't really want peace...That would take away the reason they exist....
Hamas is no more a political party than Sein Fein was back in the 80's....

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Matt, nun ya bizzness — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:33:12 GMT

Whether you have sympathy for Palestinians or not, Hamas is a terrorist organization, just like Fatah was, and just like Hezbollah is. Israel has a right to defend itself from those attacks. The reason the checkpoints went up was to curb suicide bombings. Since suicide bombings has become less effective for Hamas, rocket attacks became more prevelant.

I am not saying that Israel's response hasn't often been excessive, however I think that the people of Gaza should be at least aware of the fact that they are lucky Gaza hasnt been flattened by a massive onslaught of Israeli armor and bombs. The reason why you dont see a massive surge of support from the Arab states is because they at least remember the lessons taught by Israeli tanks and planes in past wars.

Both sides are going to have to make concessions to permanently solve this issue, and you cant have dialouge with irrational actors. Hamas needs to either be removed by force, or be willing to discuss in a rational manner, a compromise. If this does not happen you will see an inordinate amount of bloodshed in Gaza.

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Roy — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:33:59 GMT

All of this is just leading to the prophecy of God.
The battle of all battles [Armageddon]

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ps LAs Vegas NV — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:35:09 GMT

Yes forcing the Palestinians out and making a new country was a bad idea, but it was made by more than the US and we are left holding the bag.
Yes Isreal is a bully, but not by choice. They are doing it in response to aggression. If someone picks a fight and they just keep attacking after you kick the crap out of them what choice do you have but to keep fighting.
Extremist views from Hitler in the form of racism, brought about this problem and extremist views in the name of religion is keeping it going.
THE REAL PROBLEM IS THE PLA WANTS ISREAL TO INVADE AND GET THEM IN A WAR LIKE WE ARE FIGHTING IN IRAQ BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN WIN. HIDING AS CITIZENS AND AMBUSHING ANYONE.
Finally if you live there but don't support hamas you are killed so the radicals survive and get stronger, while moderates leave or get killed.
There is no difference between Hamas, Nazi's or any other groups which force their views on others through violence, that includes Americans millions on Gang Banger's

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John Doe, Seattle, Washington — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:35:56 GMT

You are all retarded. Following WW2, several countries (out of pity), decided to give Jews a homeland: wether the land was occupied or not. Thousands, if not millions of Palestinians were forced to move. They are justified in their anger and resentment in those areas of conflict.

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Yusef, Phoenix, Arizona — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:38:39 GMT

America has given money to palestinians? My ass, What has america ever done for the palestinians? They give more money to israel than they do on Iraq and Afghanistan. What do the israelis do with this? They equip the Israeli terrorist organizations, under the banner of the IDF. Historicaly the IDf is made up of 3 factions, Lehi, JDL and Irgun. They all absorbed into the IDF. Lehi is the moderate one, the Irgun and JDl are both racist and terrorist organizations.

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Joey, Louisville KY — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:52:24 GMT

All the Arab nations evicted their Jews and Israel took them in. Why won't any Arab nation take in these "palestinians"? Because the palestinians are pawns, surrogates, in an Arab war of attrition against Israel. The Israelis should push them into the sea.

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Open Eyes — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:54:22 GMT

I am sick and tired of reading the ignorant and totally inain rantings of those who use "HOLOCAUST" and genocide to speak of what Israel does to defend itself from the Palastinians.
HOLOCAUST or genocide means to wipe out an entire race of people. I doubt very seriously this is what is occuring between Israel and Palastine. How about what the ARABS are doing in Africa, now that is HOLOCAUST and genocide. Look at Darfur for example, the Arab minority trying to wipe out the native African people, that is what a HOLOCAUST or genocide really is.

So if you don't know what the true definition of HOLOCAUST or genocide really is, then don't use it as an example for your delusional rantings of what Israel does to defend itself from raging militant lunitics!!!

But for those who are truely blinded by your lack of reason and refuse to see the facts, dont say Israel is commiting HOLOCAUST or genocide, and then not condem the Arabs for the countless times they try and wipe out any group or race that does not beleive in their Muslim beliefs. Heck, if they could the Shites would wipe out the Sunnis and vice versa.

Just remember, if the Arabs/Muslims actually get their way, then everyone who is not Arab and Muslim
would be wiped out, so before you side with them, are you willing to give your life because of their beliefs???

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jay — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:58:51 GMT

CONCLUSION
Who is responsible for the plight of the Palestinians? From the data presented above, the answer is obvious. From the 19th century onward, Arab leaders, both local and external, have betrayed the Palestinian Arabs, forced them into poverty, cheated, intimidated, and oppressed them, condemned them to serfdom and stolen the land out from under them. Every opportunity for statehood was squandered by leaders who chose war and terrorism over peace and cooperation (see Addendum). Arafat's totalitarian kleptocracy, his "democracy of the gun", was most assuredly the very worst, most heinous, of all betrayals.

How did Palestinian leaders let their people fall into such a tragic state? They didn't "let them," they did it to them. A heartless, Machiavellian Arab leadership bent on violence, war, terrorism, destruction and genocide subordinated Palestinian hopes and aspirations to their own dark plans; even while Zionists in the pre-State period and the Israeli government thereafter accepted, supported, and attempted to assist the Palestinian people.

Why did the Palestinian people allow themselves to be reduced to this tragic state? It is true that Palestinian leaders ruled as tyrants, by terror, intimidation, and totalitarian repression. But even under a totalitarian tyranny, people have broken free. Today we are witness to the Ukrainian revolution, the Cedar revolution in Lebanon, and the rise of a courageous defiant democratic process in Afghanistan and Iraq (thanks to the USA coalition forces). So why have the hopeless, hapless, homeless, helpless Palestinians done nothing to take their fate into their own hands?

It would require psychiatrists or cultural anthropologists to venture an answer to this question. But one thing is certain: there are no leaders without followers.

Hamas draws Israeli fire, Palestinian praise

oldfart — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:03:11 GMT

The two main factors that propell the millions of deaths in the Middle East are religion and oil. I personally do not believe in gods and I am amazed at those who do, who would possible believe that any god of any religion would allow it's humble followers to cause the amount of pain to each other that they do. Mother Nature is my god. Life is survival. Life is not fair. Amazingly enough, if you treat others the way you wish to be treated, hostility turns to trust and life becomes a little more livable exponentially. Regarding oil. Someday America will have a presidental candidate with guts. One who will suggest that we stop buying foreign oil! One who will suggest that we have "X" amount of years before we deplete our oil supply and we must be ready to survive on alternate energy. When was the last time America as a unit actually stood up to make something happen? Us baby-boomers were raised on the stories of WWII and how the women of this country pulled together to perform jobs they never dreamed of. My mother ran a lathe and drill press for industry. We have a great country comprised of great people. Offer us the challange. Give us the opportunity to raise to the occasion once again. What we sacrafice now plants the seed of success for our children and their children to come. Let the oil nations eat their damn crude!

Hamas draws Israeli fire, Palestinian praise

Richard Smith, Sharpsburg, Md. — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:04:08 GMT

Martin Fletcher states that it is Hamas' "provocative stance" that has caused economic sanctions, fuel, and food shortages to Gaza, etc. What about the Israeli (to state it mildly) provocative actions; the 500+ roadblocks that humiliate and prevent Gaza residents from visiting relatives in the West Bank, the illegal expansion of settlements in the Palestinian territories, the illegal annexation of East Jeruselem. What about the assassinations (aka murder) of Palestinian militant activists with F-16 missiles. How about the killing (murder) of the Reuters TV journalist using the new tank-fired "darts" or fleshettes as they are called. Much like the cluster bombs used by the Israeli IDF. All supplied, by the way, by the USA. Obviously, the Israelis have no sense, they belong to an insane religion, they back insane policies, and they follow insane leaders. They will get what they deserve. Does that ring a bell?

Hamas draws Israeli fire, Palestinian praise

mike — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:05:15 GMT

Lets be honest with eachother, the only thing hamas and other movements in gaza and occupied territory are doing is fight for there freedom. If we go back to the history books we as americans have done that and we celebrate it every year. The palestinian people have been occupied way before israel by the english and never really had a time to see what freedom is. so i dont think its fair to say that hamas is a terrorist organization because they are fights for their right as human beings the right to go for a walk and not be harrassed by occupiers or afraid to send their kids to school in the morning afraid of their well being. We cant feel with them because we dont know the facts. I feel its a shame that the u.s media doesnt show the truth because iam sure that we all know that zionist run the media in the u.s and run the movie industry. We as americans have to start lookin for answers why are all these people hating us and iam not talking only about hamas.
So iam thinkin its our government policies that need to change and make it back into a real democracy because our government is becoming very hipocrate towards the democratic structure of many countries in the world. Lets go back to hamas, did you know that they were invited to run in the past election and won by more than 70% and yet no one was satisfied with the will of the palestinian people so we and the israelies did not give them a chance because they are so called a terrorist government but do we forget that the fateh movement with its late leader yassir arafat was knows across the whole world as a terrorist organization. I think the real reason that we are involved with a dirty game supporting israel because if israel really wanted peace they would not expaning settlement allover the west bank and east jerusalem

Hamas draws Israeli fire, Palestinian praise

Robert Burns, UK — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:18:42 GMT

60 years of occupation and humiliation. Enough already! The Israelis need to get the hell out of the West Bank and stay the hell out of Gaza. I can not understand why the Palestinians don't just declare Palestinian statehood, with East Jeruselem as their capital. Hamas will gain the continued support of the Palestinian people because they are the only organization that offers real resistance to the heavy-handed Israeli occupation. Jimmy Carter has it right. He is not intimidated by the Israeli lobby (AIPAC) in the US, influentiaL Jewish members of Congress, or Fox News.

Hamas draws Israeli fire, Palestinian praise

thomas Mahala — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:29:27 GMT

What John Sheboygan WI said! A-man brother.