http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspxBy Jane Arraf, NBC News Correspondent "No recording devices permitted" read the invitation to the briefing on Iran. At the Coalition Press Office, it wasn’t called Iran, or a briefing on accusations that Iran is helping attack U.S. soldiers in Iraq.en-USCommunityServer 2.0 (Build: 60608.1)http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#54952Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:21:43 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:54952Jimmy BrownAccording to Gen. Pace the Bush Administration is lying or at least embellishing the "evidence" against Iran.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#54953Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:22:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:54953Janke, West Chester PaI believe it's high time for an "accident" over in Iran. Something subtle but effective.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#54973Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:50:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:54973Ben, Houston, TXI highly doubt the Bush administration wants another war they can't handle thoroughly and decisively. President Bush may have made mistakes in the recent past regarding intelligence, but this information is of the highest concern for the American public. We must understand that if we do attack Iran, their worldwide network of terrorists, and that does include members of Hezbollah who have actively recruited and funded within the U.S. since the early '80s, will be activated. What more will it take for the world to realize that the terrorists of today are likeable in mindset of the Nazis and Kamikazes of Japan. They hold no human life valuable and will stop at nothing short of death to achieve their goals. Regardless of what faith you do or don't believe in, this is a social and religious war that will not end until the extremists are sent to their maker.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#54974Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:50:42 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:54974Jim Stafford, PAI have a few questions. 1. If Iran is supplying weapons to Iraq why would they have serial numbers? Wouldn’t that be stupid on their part? Anybody can stencil a serial number. 2. Is the U.S. supplying arms and or money to the faction that wants to overthrow the Iranian government? 3. Are missing some important facts? 4. Are any other countries supporting the faction in Iraq? 5. How does Saudi Arabia fit into this picture? I feel that we are being misled again.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#54978Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:58:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:54978Karen R. OwensSee the 2005 documentary, "Why We Fight." This film explains a lot.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#54987Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:05:32 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:54987Chrissie, chicago, ilfool me once, shame on you fool me twice, shame on mehttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#54988Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:06:06 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:54988j Van deursen Phoenix,AzIt is time to take the General George Patton's idea and clean this mess in Iraq/Iran up. If there is colatteral damage, Oh well, this is a WAR. These people want to kill you, me,etc. It is past time to put all our resources to work and wipe out these killers.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#54995Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:10:08 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:54995Corey Klippenstein, Altona, ManitobaI find it ironic that a country as full of "intelligence" as the mighty U.S.A.,(considering they could not even find the weapons of mass destruction they used as an excuse to start a terrible war) would have the nerve to start pointing fingers at another country for manufacturing explosive devices that are "killing their soldiers"...based on the reason of not being able to find any made with such precision in the country that they are currently destroying!!!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#54996Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:10:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:54996S.P. Wiliams, Lakewood, COThey're trying to get you to do some "booga-booga" journalism, where you report scary rumors and exaggerated allegations as fact. They don't know the difference between intelligence and spin, and they blur the lines repeatedly to serve whatever they want to accomplish at the moment, e.g., they leak intelligence on the identity of Valerie Plame and they spin the Iranians as major weapons dealers to Iraq insurgents. They are lost. Don't follow them.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#54998Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:10:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:54998RB, Chicago, IL.LIES...ALL LIES!! THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE!! THEY'RE MAKING THIS UP!!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55001Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:13:15 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55001John Skelly, Portland, OregonLIES LIES LIES. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. W - this one's on you. You're finished. Grow up. We're on to you.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55004Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:15:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55004Dave Brickner,Fostoria,OhioIt may about time to speak to Iran and give the ultimatum that Jimmie Carter should have given when our people were hostages in 1979!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55008Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:17:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55008j Van deursen Phoenix,AzAs I thought, your Liberal set minds turned down my comments. Get it thru your sorry heads, you can not negoiate with terroristshttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55009Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:17:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55009Andy, Minneapolis, MNThis is how we are going to start the next war... by tying it in with Iraq and making both conflicts part of the 'war on terror'. How do you think this administration will handle it's fourth war in five years?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55012Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:19:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55012DON OLIVER OMAHA, NEBRASKASOUNDS LIKE THE BUSH TEAM IS TRYING THEIR OLD TRICKS AGIN. THIS TIME WE ARE NOT GOING TO BUY INOT THEIR LIES AND COVERT OPERATIONS TO MAKE US BELIEVE IT IS IRAN!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55013Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:20:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55013John Reay, Placerville CAThe Bush Administration will bomb Iran with or without justification and without regard to consequences because it wants to. Bush/Cheney, et. al. are now the most dangerous men on earth and should be removed from office immediately.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55015Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:22:14 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55015David WilsonYour report does not take into account military assets, such as .50 "anti-materiel" rifles sold to the Iranian regieme adn readily traceable as such. From the UK Telegraph... "More than 100 of the.50 calibre weapons, capable of penetrating body armour, have been discovered by American troops during raids. The Steyr HS50 is a long range, high precision rifle The guns were part of a shipment of 800 rifles that the Austrian company, Steyr-Mannlicher, exported legally to Iran last year. The sale was condemned in Washington and London because officials were worried that the weapons would be used by insurgents against British and American troops... The National Iranian Police Organisation bought the rifles allegedly to use them against drug smugglers in an £8 million order placed with Steyr in 2005." Read it all... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=JPKY4R41A1KIBQFIQMGCFF4AVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/02/13/wiran13.xml http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55019Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:23:03 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55019James Whitaker, Gold River, CAJane, I think on this issue we should engage in a paradigm shift away from a debate over whether the Iranians are providing their Iraqi Shia allies with the lethal means to enable them to counter US military pressure on them, to not being at all surprised if they are and to recognize that such would be a perfectly natural thing to do, given that Iran's interests in the future of Iraq are far greater than those of the US; after all, Iran has to live with whatever mess we leave behind. This, I believe, is a more mature and objective way to approach such a matter, than the tangential one of are-they-aren't-they, accompanied by the emotional matter of the devices killing US personnel; yes, indeed, every time the US military pushes on the Shia militias, this sort of thing is bound to happen and there's just no way Iran will leave those allies defenseless against such pressure! You and I and many others know that the best approach to minimizing the risk to our troops from Iranian-supplied lethality, is best of all not to have our troops in the midst of a civil war, but since they are there, for the US to be seriously and constructively, working to engage diplomatically with Iran to determine how, cooperatively, the situation in Iraq can be stabilized, rather than the US escalating US-Iran tension over such an issue as the IEDs.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55020Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:23:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55020Kristen JohansonI'd say "Ho Hum, more lies from the war mongering, war profiteering Bush administration neocon New World Order Zionists" -- but "Ho Hum" isn't appropriate given the dangerous situation for the world, including the increased risk of cancer from nuclear fallout. Why doesn't anyone rein in these thugs who are in charge of the U.S. government? It appears the Democrats will go along with them as usual. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55021Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:23:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55021Pete Hanson ,slc ,ut USAonce agian cheney bush is trying the same old stuff when will we learn that regaurdless of how it looks a WAR CRIMINAL is a war criminal it doesn't change if we don't want to admitt it or not. we know it, the world knows it, and untill we are ready to put an end to this CRIMINAL ACT we call IRAQ ,Impeach these WAR CRIMINALS and submitt to INTERNATIONAL law by turning over ALL OF THOSE CONNECTED WITH THIS CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATION for Trial (Hopefully ending with a televised hanging for all the world to see)Untill then we will never have or deserve the respect of the international community.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55023Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:25:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55023Kyle Sounds like the administration has decided that any diversion is a good diversion. On a positive note, it's good for a few laughs when Bush tells countries in the Middle East not to meddle in Iraq. That's like Iran telling us to to meddle with our neighbors in Canada. Just brilliant. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55024Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:26:52 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55024Roberta L. JohnsonQuestion? Who has been identified as using these weapons against our troops? If they are Shia; why would the majority group be targeting US troops, there to help support their new government?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55028Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:29:19 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55028Jeff Brady, layton, UtahIf we do not have proof it never happened. The militants know how to use our judicial system against us. We will never get a clue without evidence. When do you say enough is enough and go after the source. Afterall the source is selling these materials to harm us! http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55029Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:29:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55029barry K.hoenix AZWhat would Colin Powell think of this presentation,he would not put his reputation on the line again for any flimsy information like this.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55031Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:31:10 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55031James Austin, London, BritainThe same neocons that cooked the books to invade Iraq stand behind this theater. President Eisenhower warned of the role of military industries in dictating policies if they get too powerful. US's military budget this year is 700 billion dollars or 8 times that of the entire EU and 25% of the US budget. These industries need new wars to keep the shareholders happy.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55033Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:31:41 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55033Chris Alexander Chicago, ILTo think that you would actually suggest that the Administration is mis-leading the world on the fact that Iran is sending weapons and people into Iraq is not only absurd, its simply embarrassing as an American. It's time for the media to STEP UP and call out the rougue countries for what they are, and what their doing.. It's time to stop pointing all the fingers at the U.S.. Who, by the way, does more to support those in need in every country across the globe than anyone else.. We are trying to spread democracy across the middle east, not becuase we think that our way is better, but becuase their way is clearly a danger to the not just the U.S., but the world. It's time this was acknowleged, and it's time that the media calls on the rest of the world for its support.. The U.N. has been a joke, and very corrupt by the way.. Yet you all seem to let that pass. Now we show that Iran is doing these horrible things, and you question it? Should we simply give you all the intel so you can post it on your front page for the whole world to read? Please, at some point you have to get a clue. Or someday you may not be able to write the crap that your freedom right now lets you write.!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55039Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:35:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55039Andrew Brennan, White Plains, NYThe chickens have come home to roost. This time we have the goods on Iranian complicity and involvement but neither the credibility nor the backbone to use it. The Bush administration has made a complete and utter hash of the anti-terror effort and is now simply paralyzed in a failed war with no hope of real change. We will see more casualties, more rhetoric, and more confusion as long as this incompetent and fruadulent president is in power.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55042Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:36:14 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55042Zeke PutnamWhen I was a young man, I believed everything my government said. As I old man, I doubt everything that is said. I look back at a lifetime of lies, manipulations and a lot of dead friends who thought they were dying for the "cause". Anybody, and especially a politician, that won't provide concrete proof (and that can be manufactured) isn't to be believed. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55043Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:36:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55043Dan, Oxnard, CaliforniaIran may well be a larger threat than Iraq ever was. It's too bad that the Bush administration spent all their credibility on lying us into Iraq.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55047Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:39:15 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55047Bill, Denver, ColoradoBush wants war with Iran, and He is lying to get it... http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55050Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:40:03 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55050Mary Wabasso,MinnesotaI would agree that Iran may have sold weapons or parts to neighboring countries at the present time or the pass. Further investigation is needed in order to pin this on Iran alone. And other the other hand if Iran is supplying weapons or parts and are lying about this it still requires stronger substantial evidence from within Iran it self.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55055Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:45:36 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55055JAMES DUCKWORTH NUKE THEM ALLhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55056Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:46:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55056RMHSoldierI'm not a military analyst nor am I an expert on identifying what part was made where and by whom but it doesnt take an expert to know that Iran has threatened us many times (America and Israel). The Iranian leader has shouted out in demonstrations many times that "Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth" and "Death to America". I can't say for certain if Iran is helping Iraq by making weapons or providing parts because the evidence has not been presented yet but I say there is a really good chance they are. You do the math. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55061Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:47:03 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55061Al GoreHere we go again.....http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55065Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:51:40 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55065Tom Bcheck this outhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55067Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:52:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55067911truthdotorg, Phoenix, AZFacts? Evidence? Reality? What do these have to do with the liar-in-chief? Absolutely nothing! The decider has decided to bomb Iran and that's that. They'll just keep repeating the same lies about Iran supplying weapons to Iraq over and over again until the sheep in this country accept it as the truth. Sound familiar? http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55069Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:53:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55069Lief A. Sapp, Jacksonville, FL This seems to be a repeat of the WMD search from 2003. We had pictures and other "classified evedence" then too. Still we never found the WMDs. Now the administation's rep is in the toilet because of that and the ongoing struggle that insued. There's no way for the average American to know if this is accurrate other than the media. I personally feel that we should back off a little for now. Our best efforts to stop the kaos in the Middle East has indeed feuled the fires of hate for America there and elswhere in the world. Good intensions with bad results. A sharp change in policy is over-due. I also don't believe U.S. has any right to tell Iran they can't have the a-bomb. The technology has been around for over 60 years and was somewhat kept under wraps. how long did we really think it would be before others figure it out.It is the responsibility of our scientists and military to stay a step ahead of them(remember civil defence plans that we shelved because of M.A.D.). It is also not our place to try to develope the world. Those third world countries need to find their own way as we did. It took civil war in America to abolish slavery and make America free for all.Maybe Iraq needs civil war to advance their society as well. Maybe when the smoke clears in Iraq there might actually be a civilization. As far as the extremist themselves. They will not stop as long as we keep trying to fight this PC war on terror. War is terror at its best. Not every German was a Nazi. Do you think the allies would've defeated Hitler if we only went after him and his party. NO! All of Germany had to pay the price. Same with Japan. The extremists are the Arab versions of fanatic groups here like the KKK, Bloods, Skinheads, Branch Davidions, and all the other cults and gangs. They're street thugs!! The government of their country should controll them as we do. If they don't we should attack that country outright. Women and children included. For now I think A complete pullout from Iraq, and an end to the current "offensive" in the war on terror combined with the promise that we will kill 1000 muslim men women and children for every American killed will do the world justice and make the extremists think twice before attacking the U.S. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55070Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:53:17 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55070Aaron, New York, NYWasn't there a point in time where the word of the United States meant something? There are so many contradictions and flat out fallatious statements coming from the administration and state department, it's hard to tell fact from fiction. Is that part of their plan?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55072Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:54:26 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55072James N CoppockI wonder if the intelligence from the White House is the same intelligence we all heard before going into Iraq. It seems to me the old addage, "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" comes into play here. Honestly, is there anything the "little boy" could cry now that would make us believe him? After crying "Wolf," it can be difficult for him to regain credibility with the American people. http://thelastbastionofreason.blogspot.comhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55076Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:56:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55076TONY SHUMPERT CHICAGO, ILDOES THIS STORY SOUND FAMILIAR TO ANYONE ELSE WITH COMMON SENSE. BUSH MUST THINK WE ARE ALL IDIOTS, AND HE AND HIS CABINET ARE THE SMARTEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. ARREST THIS IDIOT OF A PRESIDENT AND HIS CABINET FOR MURDERING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE OR DEEP SIX THEM. I LIKE THE LATTER BECAUSE IT WOULD SAVE US MILLIONS ON A TRIAL. HE WANTS SHIA TO FIGHT SUNNI IN EVERY LAND IN THE MIDDLE EAST. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55079Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:59:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55079beau howellwhen all i hear is the iran president talking about blowing up isrial,, and talking with the president of vinasrela, and russia giving iran their supplies for the so called peaceful reactors. yes i have no dout that iran is killing are troops. and plan on doing alout more in days to come. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55081Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:00:38 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55081Rick Carroll, Cincinnati, OHWe can't trust any organization that has proven itself to be untrustworthy. Sadly, this administration and its allies within our military have repreatedly proven to be untrustworthy. The 4th Estate needs to rise to the challenge of finding a way to either prove or disprove these serious allegations. Then, it needs to be proven that the press assets, that have proven (or disproven) these allegations, have not acted as agents of this administration or their allies within the military, as has repeatedly been the case in recent years related to the build-up for war against Iraq. As you can see, the difficult situation here may be resistant to resolution due to the well documented nature of this irreseponsible administration. No one on earth will ever be convinced that the US hasn't doctored whatever intelligence it obtains connecting Iran to the insurgent activities in Iraq. The only evidence that will be believed is that which counters the claims being made by the Bush Administration and our military planners. This is just more of the price we'll continue to pay for having lied our way into this war.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55082Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:00:40 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55082Dave, Buffalo, WyomingNo one knows who is telling the truth and who isn't anymore, and that is partially credited to the news media!!!!!!!!!!!!!!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55084Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:02:06 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55084JimboThe news here is not that Iran might be supplying weapons to insurgents but that this is considered news at all. Of course Iran is suppling weapons to Iraq. Wouldn't the US supply men and material to Canada or Mexico if those countries had been invaded by one of our enemies? Didn't the US supply supervisors and weapons including Stinger Missiles to Afghanistan insurgents (including Osama bin Laden) when Russia invaded them? Didn't both the Soviet Union and the United States prop up and supply with money, weapons, intel and advisors, countries that supported each's respective cause?? What is all the hooplah about? We are playing hardball in Iraq and so is Iran and anyone that fooled themselves into thinking this wouldn't or shouldn't happen is diconnected from reality.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55085Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:02:45 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55085Zakariya SheikhThe weapons used by the terrorist State of Israel are supplied by the US. What are we going to do about that?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55086Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:03:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55086Sean, Torrington CTI don't believe them. This administration and its appointees lied to us at least four times as they tried to develop an excuse for invading Iraq. When one lie (WMDs) was exposed, they tried another (al-quieda ties) and another (acquiring urnamium for nukes) and another (we can bring them democracy even tho there is no realistic plan post-invasion). Typical...can't tell you the man or the sources as it will 'expose' him...you'll just have to trust us until the intelligence is exposed as bullshit post invasion. Just like in Iraq. Whatever. I'm just so sad that our military people and our finances are being wasted on this honor-less boondoggle. The sectarian/civil strife was well predicted, but Bush ignored it. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55090Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:05:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55090Robert A WilliamsWhy believe the Administration people including the Militarty because they have to read the script given to them by the White House.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55093Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:06:26 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55093Don Reynolds, Albuquerque, NMRemember all those "confirmed" reports of WMD's, hidden stores of biological weapons, enriched uranium from Africa, Hussein's harboring of Al Qaida agents, etc.? All of these were solemnly verified by the Bush Administration as true and verifiable. Why do the new reports indicating that the Iranian government is surrepitiously sending roadside bombs to Iraqi insurgents remind me of the story of the boy who cried "wolf"? http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55096Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:07:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55096Nancy WaldenJUST MORE BEATING OF THE WARDRUMS BY THE NEO-CON WAR MACHINE! How many more billions are going to be wasted on the killing of innocent Iraqi Civilians ... which are mostly women ... children ... and babies! This is just another Gender Based Genocide which most wars are since they end up killing mostly women and their children! TIME TO VOTE ALL OF THE WAR MONGERS OUT OF OFFICE! http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55097Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:07:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55097gary Its a war , of course there are weapons coming from everywhere , not just Iran. Iran was helping America after 9/11 with getting rid of the Taliban , then Bush came out with his axis of evil speech and slapped Iran in the face. The Bush team has done Iran's work for them , got rid of the Taliban , got rid of another enemy Saddam , and no Iranian had to die. When did Iran or Iraq ever attack America - never!! A bunch of punks hit America on 9/11 not any country yet America goes to war with Iraq , why WMD - never found any though did they? Now they say Iran is arming the militants , yeah rigjt , like we are going to beleive these guys again? And so what if they are - its a war! Leave Iran alone , attacking them would just be another foolish move by the Bush Administration. Billons spent on this war , while Gulf states are still a mess from Katrina. Stop spending money on wars , and spend it in our own country!!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55098Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:08:43 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55098Bill, Tampa, FloridaDoes anyone remember the hell Clinton went through because he lied about cheating on his wife? We have Cheney, and his hand puppet Bush, attempting to take over the world and no one in Congress is doing ANYTHING about it! Have we become that apathetic or just ingnorant? Putin hit it on the head the other day when he pointed to the U.S. attempting to force it's will on practically everyone in the world. Diplomacy is a term Cheney knows nothing about. Why did we not talk with Iran in 2003 when we had the chance? Hell, even Nixon spoke with China. The U.S. convienently labels every government that does not follow its directives as 'terrorist' or 'illegitimate' and then uses those labels as an excuse not to negotiate and instead bring military pressure. The U.S. under Bush is the 'rogue' nation...who can argue that point when we throw International Law out the window? Disgusting. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55099Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:08:44 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55099keith schultz, phoenix, azHow will the friends of Israel handle this?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55102Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:09:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55102mahvish, lahore, punjabamerica just needs a reason to attack countries tht it doesnt like, and they r trying to cook up a reason to attack iran, just like they did for iraq. what ever happened to the so called "weapons to MASS destruction?"http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55103Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:09:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55103Cynthia Bartosh, Las Vegas NevadaWas our information faulty and Bush invaded Iraq on "convenient lies? I don't think this is totally true. For months we tried to go into Iraq before we decided to invade them. While all this red tape was being gone through, Hussein had opportunity to remove weapons of mass destruction and send them out of the country. The fact is the world is a better place without someone like Hussein. Now lets fast forward to Iran. While invading them is not the best option or a popular one, we have got to realize that this country is on a collision course with a major war. They won't back down and if we do, our security could be at risk. Any country that wakes up and shouts death to "America" or states that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth, should not be ignored. Iran's government may not be directly involved with the weapons found in Iraq but you better wake up and realize that indirectly they either are funneling money and weapons to the insurgents or they are making it very easy for this to happen. Come on, main stream media, take your dislike for the Bush administration out of the mix and report to your readers the facts. What shaky finger? Maybe it's the shaking reporting. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55104Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:09:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55104Chris M. West VirginiaThe pentagon photos of these IFD components are supposed to show that they are manufactured in Iran. Why is the date in the Christian calendar and not the Muslim calendar or even in Farsi to say the least? http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55105Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:09:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55105Jeb, K.C. MoThis administration has lost all credibility. If I was on the Titanic and this administration told me it was sinking...I wouldn't believe them.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55108Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:12:49 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55108Joseph Thodiyil, Fairfield, OHThe lying dogs of war are at work again, plotting war against Iran ala. against Iraq in 2003! Unjustly imposed wars will always end in defeat for the invaders. Russia in Afghanistan, the US in Vietnam/Iraq, Germany/Italy/Japan (The old Axis of Evil) in World War II, to give a few examples. Why can't we learn from history and stop this unjust bloodletting? Truly, blessed are the peacemakers. Warmongers and deceivers, STOP going to Church. You worship in vain!!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55109Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:13:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55109Robert A Williams Citrus Heights, Ca 95620Why believe the Adminstration now,of the Military they are committed to the script given to them by the White House Staff. Half truths anf propaganda they contiue to want the country to hear. None of whom have been in Harms Way as military men and women.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55110Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:14:48 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55110Bill LoganI'm a little confused here. Why are we not talking about other weapons used to kill American's and Iraqys in this war. Weapons that are know to come from Russia, China, and some produced here in this country, and yes somehow sold in the black market an wind up in Iraq in the insergents hands. I quess it's because we're only willing to pin-point and accuse Iran at this point, and not hold the rest of the industrial community responsible for producing and selling this weapons used for only one purpose. We should be going after all those that sell these weapons, but then we would be faced with the question what are we doing there in the first place, with the weapons we make and produce ourselve's. It's time to take this county out of Iraq and hold our President and Vice President resposible for this mess in the first place.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55112Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:15:43 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55112DeeWhatever, dudes, whatever!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55113Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:16:49 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55113M. Davison, Columbus, OHioIt is imperitive that we consider why those in your story can't speak freely. Is it because the media has painted our administration and our Iraq effort as an effort in futility and bullying? You have no idea what is going on but more importantly the american people have no idea what is going on because the media only wants to show us the negatives. These people hate us, they kill innocents by tieing a bomb on there chest and blame it on the US. You write a blog with an obvious underlying message of the administration as paranoid, incompetent, and possibly looking for more war. You in the media have created these fears. Sad that you don't want to win. Sad that you are ashamed of our status of Super Power. Sad that we rely on you to communicate what is simply your reality. Bias in the media? Naaaahhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55114Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:17:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55114Christos Paloubis, Long Island NYI think the people of this country need to defend themselves against anyone who kills there people intentionaly. This includes the Bush Administration and anyone in the military who puts the citizens of this country in harms way under lies and acusations so that big business can keep making money and donating money. After Iraq i dont think the Bush Administration should not acuse any goverment of anything without a smoking gun. Like finding campaign finance money of Ajmadianjan in the hands of the bomb makers. A bomb being made in Iran by an Iranian and smuggled into Iraq does not warrant all the people of the country being bombed and killed. Nor does a US person diserve to die for making a bomb or missle in a US defense factory. US made bombs and missles have beed sold to many people around the world and killed many people, that does not mean i or you deserve to die.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55115Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:17:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55115Rachel West, Columbus, OHunfortunately we were deceived a;ready about the WMD and Iraq/Al-quada ties that got us into this war. I'm a little gun-shy about beleiving any "evidence" this administration has about anything.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55116Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:18:00 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55116Bernie MacDonald, Brampton, Ontario , CanadaIran would supply weapons to the shites, the coalition is being attacked by Sunnishttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55117Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:18:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55117David, Seattle, WAYa, I like the complete turn around on this. Four years ago we were to believe the Iraq was a hairs breadth away from manufacturing advanced WMD's and modes of delivery for them, capable of hitting targets anywhere in the Middle East and threatening American sovereignty. Now we're supposed to believe Iraq is incapable of manufacturing a steel tube packed with explosives and having a copper cone at one end with out Iranian technology and support. Not to mention the mortars are marked in English not Farsi, and are of a non Soviet caliber, in spite of the fact Iranian equipment is supplied by Russia. Some were also reportedly seized within no more than 9 days of manufacture. Some mortars had Sep 2006 manufacture dates and were seized in the middle of Iraq on Sep 9, 2006. It's fabricated all the way, welcome to Iraq all over again.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55119Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:19:15 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55119Leon W. FainstadtWMD? Fool me once- shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Enough is enough. Fire Bush and Cheney.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55120Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:19:49 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55120Alfred SanchezWhen the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, didn't the CIA set up an arms smugling operation in Peshawar to arm the Mujahedeen? Whay would it be wrong to return the favor now and arm the patriot iraqui fighters so they have a better chance to kill invaders?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55124Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:21:51 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55124Leon W. FainstadtThe War Mongers in Washington are an illegal group who are bringing down the moral standards of our government and creating conditions that put our people, military, and nation at risk. Time to get rid of the whole bunch. Don't forget the American Enterprise Institute and that idiot Paul Wolfowitz.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55125Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:21:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55125JMO, York, Pa Let's see. One of main reporters of the original story on this was Michael R Gordon of the N Y Times (who along with departed Judith Miller posted the infamous Aluminum Tube pieces on Iraq). Is this con-incidence or not? I don't think so. P.T. Barnum had a nice phrase for this that most of us already know., but I for one an not taking the bait a second time. Also today General Peter Pace was very skeptical of linking Iran govenment with the newer IEDs but admitting however that they were likely coming from Iran. Many sources also have linked outside weaponry to the Saudis as well. We forget that this is primarily a civil war and is pitting Sunnis agains Shites and there WILL be outside influencers in this for many and sundried reasons. Let's not however get suckered into the last "go to war proposition" that came about from faulty and uninformed intelligence (or lack therof) and was used by various groups only to promote their agendas. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55126Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:21:58 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55126Bernie MacDonald, Brampton, Ontario , CanadaIran is Sunni, they are being attacked by Shiteshttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55128Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:22:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55128Margaret, Corpus Christi, TXThis is so nuts! Does Bush believe that the American people have forgotten that there were NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION in Iraq? Does he think our nation has forgotten that he manufactured evidence to get us there? HAVE the American people forgotten? If they have, I'm more scared of this ignorance than any of the terrorism claims that Bush has trotted out to pull our nation into submission.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55129Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:24:41 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55129Pat Hicks, Portland, OregonThe Discovery Channel program "Future Weapons" showed within the last two weeks, detailed construction techniques for the very same cylindrical shaped charge weapon you described above, with concave copper, and they showed how to operate them. The programs bombs looked identical to the ones shown on the news last night. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55130Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:25:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55130Michael Blome, Seattle, Wash.I suspect that these officers were just following orders that ultimately originated in the civilian part of the chain of command. If so, then I don't blame them for insisting on anonymity; at least they have a chance to avoid the same fate as Colin Powell. When this so called "Iranian connection" is revealed, as it surely will be, to be just another Bush-Cheney disinformation campaign, these officers won't have to watch their personal credibility get destroyed in the process. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55131Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:26:45 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55131Arturo Jabra'il Sancho, Medicine Bow, WyomingDear Jane Arraf, You underestimate the intelligence and vivid memories adult Americans possess concerning the Mullahcracy that directs Iran's foreign policy. In the United States nothing is forgotten, when recalling the rift that has existed between the U.S. and Iran, precipitated by the 1979 hooligan take over of the American's internationally recognized embassy in Tehran. Iran has been self implicated as a realistic threat to free expression, for nearly thirty years. Thus far journalist like yourself have been relatively successful in using the blame card, in an attempt to defuse what has been a long time coming. Iran's collision course with the ideals of the American Revolution. Based on the Iranian theocracy model, a new yet similar attack against freedom by fundamentalist Islam, was laid-out by al-Qaida on September 11, 2001. This old brand of subversive fundamentalist Islamic theology, must be factored in, along with the Iranian machined parts blamed for killing U.S. personal in Iraq. It is this Islamic theological threat, with its total disregard for the will of the international community represented by the United Nations, that has led to the diplomatic pressure currently being applied against Iran. Al-Qaida the spiritual offspring of the Iranian Revolution, has initiated the alarm in the world community, with threats detailed in the Online website History of Jihad.org. It is Iran who is shaking in its shoes, surrounded by freedom loving nations who have no desire in being bullied, by any nuclear threat, or historical distortion propagated Islamic theocracy. Regards, Arturo Jabra'il Sanchohttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55137Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:32:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55137August SallimanI believe that Iran is correct by saying that the USA has always been fabricating their stories. A simple example is the invasion of Iraq. Did they found WMD in Iraq? Was it justified to invade Iraq with their argument of WMD? They will make a bigger mistake by fabricating this too, (Iran supplying the insurgents with wapons) Is Vietnam not an example of American mistakes? Probably a lesson not learned.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55138Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:33:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55138Jim Keenan, Gaithersburg, MarylandSame kind of b.s. we heard just before we were lied into invading Iraq. These guys don't even possess the intelligence (pun intended) to use a different approach than the one they used before to get us suckered into the quagmire in Iraq. Remember, these are the guys who tried to help us imagine what LA would look like after Iraq nuked it. Iran IS the source of all evil currently in the oepen-air mental institution of the Middle East, but let's not let Bush& The Gang Who Couldn't Make War Straight lie us into another debacle!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55139Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:33:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55139Eugen VonWestphalin, San Francisco, CAI spent a bit of time in Iran in the 70s, just before the hostage taking in 79. I also have spent time in other Mideast areas since then. The idea that Iran is involved in terrorist activities has long been established by reliable agencies outside the US and is not in dispute. What is in question is the honesty and relialbity of this administration. Bush et al have cried wolf too many times to be taken at their word ever again. Maybe the Israelies or some other group could verify the accusations and be believed. Bush and his fellow travelers are no longer seen as trustworthy.Iran probably is involved, but Bush and his minions will not be the last word this time. Thank you. EvW http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55141Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:33:54 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55141Bill, Tampa, Floridahey, i have an idea. if we dont agree with someone, lets just make up some crap so we can blow them up! great foreign relations policy. this (war with Iran) ahs been a long time coming and planned. check out Project for a New American Century. this was in place since the late 90's at the latest, probably before. so, one day after the whitehouse sponsored PR stunt to finger the Iranian governemnt, the chief of the joint chiefs contradicts their findings, brilliant. before the propaganda cranks up again, yes it was a contradiction. tony snow said unequivocally the u.s. had proof the weapons were tied to the highest places in the iranian government...now, maybe not so much. for those who say we have to support the troops who are fighting for our freedom i say two things: 1. they are not fighting for our freedom. no threat to our country existed in Iraq or Iran. none. it has been proved. 2. i do support the troops...thats why i want them to come home and quit being used as fodder by the elite in our country. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55142Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:34:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55142Jim PoteeC'mon NBC you wouldn't report it to be true if it said "Made in Iran" on it and was signed by Ahamadinejad himself. Because that would mean agreeing with a claim made by the Bush administration and we all know thats not going to happen.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55144Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:35:19 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55144Christopher SmallisJane - are the British in the south or US forces in Kurdistan being targeted as well? The story reads "targeting US forces in Iraq" - but is this largely resulting from the targeting of specific US forces in metro Baghdad? It would seem that the IED issue would be even more significant if it impacted all coalition forces all around the country.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55145Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:35:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55145Eric, Lynn Haven FLSeems to me that shaky evidence has been trumped up before...even the "top" US General, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff doesn't acknowledge the direct connection between state sponsored Iranian terrorism in Iraq. But just because we don't have ample "concrete" evidence yet, doesn't mean it isn't happening. I think more energy needs to be invested in finding out the true creditability of these claims before more US forces are put in harms way in a conflict with Iran. And we should probably analyze what the real threat from Iran is? Is it funding of terrorists and insurgent groups...they have been doing that for years! Or is it their push for nuclear technology? How far is this country willing to go before we are fighting with anyone the White House has beef with?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55146Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:36:06 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55146robert kasshef, los angeles, caGen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said U.S. forces hunting down militant networks that produced roadside bombs had arrested Iranians and that some of the material used in the devices were made in Iran. “That does not translate that the Iranian government per se, for sure, is directly involved in doing this,” Pace told reporters in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta. “What it does say is that things made in Iran are being used in Iraq to kill coalition soldiers.” http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55147Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:36:17 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55147August SallimanI believe that Iran is correct by saying that the USA has always been fabricating their stories. A simple example is the invasion of Iraq. Did they found WMD in Iraq? Was it justified to invade Iraq with their argument of WMD? They will make a bigger mistake by fabricating this too, (Iran supplying the insurgents with wapons) Is Vietnam not an example of American mistakes? Probably a lesson not learned.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55155Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:39:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55155E. M. RiceHow could anyone believe this present Administration after all that has happened is beyond me! And how could anybody believe the current military spokesmen who's identities remain hidden regarding such an important issue? I wish I had a buck for every lie and cover-up they have been caught up in the past four years! Better yet, I wish I had a buck for all the lies and cover-ups that have NOT been discovered! Please stop the madness BEFORE it is too late! The potential use of nuclear munitions on nuclear facilities is BEYOND insane!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55157Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:40:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55157John Doe, Seattle, WashAnd the media, once again helps the powerfull rich elite that started the Iraq fiasco, to once again spread BS to the masses. OOPS, should have said, gullible masses. They believe it. Hell, some people STILL believe Saddam and Iraq were directly involved in 911! The media IS to blame. Just reporting what "government sources said" without making anybody accountable does nothing but embolden this corrupt regime's antics. It is funny. MSNBC, and other news organizations complain about how biased FoxNews is, and yet they do the exact same things as Fox. Just look at MSNBC's own message boards! One to three people run roughshod over everyone, and if anyone dares to even attempt to give them some of their own medicine back? You are permanently banned. It's like this people. Media, including MSNBC are corporate entities with their eyes on the $$ just like politicians. The more they make, the more they want. The owners of these media corporations MAKE government policy, then pretend to be shocked to report it. It's a helluva scam!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55163Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:42:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55163John H. Austin TXIt is bizarre to live in a time during which Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini has as much or more credibility with the American public than Presidential Press Secretary Tony Snow. My God, what have these fools wrought?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55170Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:46:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55170Akber A. Kassam. New-York City, New York.I think there is no evidence that Iran is is helping Iraqis to attack United States solders in Iraq. This is all media is creating this problems. Iran is morally supporting Iraq because they are belong to the same religion, as United States is 100% supporting Israel. I think United States is loosing this unpopular war in Iraq, now they are blaming Iranian government for their own failure in Iraq.United States would not have been invaded Iraq in the first place, President Bush has made one of the biggest mistake.!!!!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55172Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:46:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55172d scottWhat a crock of poop! Y'know, if anyone from the "U.S." ever tells anything to anyone else directly, we'd know who was 'really' responsible for V. Plame's outing, Iraqi involvement, Iranian involvement, the WTC bombings, where J. Hoffa is, who shot Kennedy and probably why such a stink was made over B. Clinton's personal affairs yet G.W. Bush's lies to America smell like our first morning coffee. If Iran did help Iraq, who cares? Why not take care of our troops by bringing 'em home. If we start from here (USA) we'd surely see who is shooting whom from a safe vantage point and we'd ba able to know we are not the perpetrators of all this violence. After all, we aren't, are we??? Hey~here's an idea! Let's ask Dick and Condi! They ALWAYS tell it like it is and never pass the buck!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55177Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:47:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55177no more wars!!!we cannot, should not, let this @ss of a president keep lying to us, (lol, my 7 year old kid is more coherent than him when he speaks) lets see, everything about Iraq was absolutely WRONG!!! ... ehm, why is anyone paying any attention to this administrations claims?? http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55178Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:48:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55178Denise NicholsGood work, Jane!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55179Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:48:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55179Tim StroudI don't know who or what to believe anymore.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55181Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:49:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55181Dave, MOI am not sure how long the border is between Iraq & Iran, but it would seem to me that somehow that border could be monitored, whether it be night vision cameras, drones, helicopters, or troops. It has to be coming in by pack animal, trucks, pickups, or cars. If it were me making the delivery, it would be at night. If by a vehicle, it almost has to be a road. By pack animal could be anywhere. The next question is how many people cross back & fourth daily. If it is few, the next thing I would do is plant the very devices Iran has sent across the border, and/or mines. Detonation of those planted devices, followed by a very large explosion would almost guarantee you have eliminated a load of Iranian weapons, and prove that is the source of those weapons and devices. Probably, it's not that easy. The very thing that currently bothers me about the theory of the source, is our history of flawed intellingence. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55187Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:54:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55187MichaelUSSR may also be involvedhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55196Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:57:37 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55196J. Hubbard, Carmel, InHere goes Bush again...lying, fabricating, disrespecting the American people and democracy...the whole Bush gang should be investigated for treason for starting the Iraq war and trying to start another war without evidence of a just causehttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55198Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:57:50 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55198Cynthia TimkoI trust those picture of the supposed Irani manufactured EFP's about as mch as I now trust those drawings of Iraqi mobile labs Colin Powell used in his presentation to the U.N.(I always wondered why, with all our spy satellite technology we never. saw photos of those, even though we can apparently photograph and identify Osama when he comes out of his cave. We saw photos of the mobile labs only after they were determined to be totally harmless, taken from the ground up close. Those weapons photos shown by unidentified officials could have been anything, exhibited by anybody, for the sake of promoting an agenda that gives me nightmares, such as waking up tomorrow and finding we have attacked another country on the same shaky grounds that we attacked Iraq, except that this time it will be far more costly in blood, money and what is left of other counties' respect for us around the world. I find it particularly peculiar that General Pace was not especially impressed by the "evidence" of direct Irani involvement in the importation into and use in Iraq of the EFP's. I heard one report that he didn't even know the presentation in Baghdad was to be made. Idon't know if this is true-I haven't had time to research it-but either way this whole scenerio is dismayingly familiar and equally tragic.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55202Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:00:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55202Bob Rubock, Jefferson, MDThe only sad part about this is Americans never seem to want hard evidence and seem to swallow almost any ridiculous claim rather than have the guts to stand up and say "This is just more bull...., like the WMD's used to go to war in Iraq." It's like Bill Mahar said...."Americans are not stupid, just really slow>"http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55205Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:00:37 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55205Craig RickmanFinally proof. The only problem with it is the left will only believe it when it serves their political interests. Or maybe if Iran actually has a news conference admitting their involvment. I mean, already in an effort to once again make the administration look bad the idea of bad intelligence is brought out. Even though the truth is there is Iranian involvement. I can't wait to see what happens next.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55207Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:02:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55207Jim K Phoenix, ArizonaThe Iranian leaders know and condone the use of lethel weapons. This makes them as quilty as the users. When is America going to stop being P.C. and take care of the threat? As usual, every hting is done half way.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55209Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:02:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55209Kay Tracythemajority of Americansarenot buying into this, the administrationhas lied before and look where we are. When things get to hot for the administration to handle they another hot sopt or issue. wake yp people by the time their are through this war will escalate far beyond our imaginations and it will be too late.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55211Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:03:14 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55211John Petz, Atlanta, GAHow can anyone believe the Bush administration at this point? They have been wrong about everything, from associating Saddam Hussein with 9/11 to predicting how U.S. troops would be greeted as liberators in Iraq. These aren't just honest mistakes; these blunders border on incompetence at best; corruption at worst. I have zero faith in President Bush and can only wait until 2008 when he's out of office.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55216Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:05:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55216Dave, Manitowoc, WII just received this! Why can not our media just tell it like it is, like this Army person did? Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Iraq persprctive Another perspective... A U.S. Serviceman gives his perspective on the Iraq situation Following the article I sent about Bush's national address and troop increase, I thought it was a good idea to let you all know what the perspective is over here. I'm tired of hearing the media's skewed version, the politicians squabbling over what they read in a report, and the average ill-informed American ranting about things he knows NOTHING about. I've been over here a couple of months now, and I've learned more about this country than a year's worth of watching CNN. I've sat in mission briefs with Colonels, talked with village elders, had tea with Sheiks, played with the kids. And I agree with the President. We need more troops and we need to take greater action. There are 3 major factions here. The Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds. The Shiites are in the majority, but Saddam was a Sunni, so he kept the Shiites in check. Everyone hates the Kurds, who are Christian and in the vast minority. The Kurds received the brunt of Saddam's murderous tyranny. Now that Saddam is gone, the Shiites have taken control of Baghdad. The largely peaceful Sunnis are now the victims of radical Shiite terrorism. So the young Sunni men, who can no longer go to work and support their families, do what all young men would do. They join the Sunni militia and battle the Shiites. And thus the country sits on the brink of civil war. But this war is between them. They largely do not concern themselves with the U.S. troops. The insurgents who battle the Coalition Forces are from outside the country. And the biggest problem down here isn't the insurgents. Its the politicians. The local politicians. Even though the country is controlled by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, downtown Baghdad is controlled by radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. The Shiites follow al-Sadr and thus the Prime Minister does what al-Sadr says. Think of it as if a warlord controlled New York and blackmailed the President into diplomatic immunity. When 1st Cav (mainly 2/5 Cav) came here in 2004, they took downtown Baghdad (known as Sadr City) by force. It cost many lives, but after a year, we held an iron grip on the largest insurgent breeding ground in Iraq. The insurgents were afraid of the Horse People, and rightfully so. But when 1st Cav left, al-Sadr influenced the Prime Minister to kick out the Coalition forces from that area of Baghdad. He said the Iraqi military forces could hold the city. But all that happened was al-Sadr regained control of his cty, and it is now a heavily guarded fortress. A place where insurgents and terrorists can train and stockpile arms. And we cannot go back in becuase the Prime Minister won't let us. Our hands are tied. So where does al-Sadr get his backing? From Iran and Syria. Iran supplies him with money and Syria supplies the terrorists. The insurgents that battle the Coalition Forces are from Syria, Somalia and dozens of other places outside of Iraq. Iraq is literally a terrorist breeding ground. They have terrorist and sniper schools here. Why not? They train by teaching them to attack the military forces here. And they have an endless supply of these training tools. They have factories in Sadr City to build bombs. Both Iran and Syria have openly proclaimed their number one goal in life is to destroy the great Western Devil and the little Western Devil (America and Britain). Iran wants to control Iraq to further this purpose. Al-Sadr will get to "run" the country and live like a king, but in reality Iran will pull the puppet strings. Iran will have access to thousands of radical Shiites who will do whatever al-Sadr tells them to. And Iraq will be used as a breeding ground for terrorism. Terrorism that will be targeted directly at America and Britain. The Iraq Study Group advised we should let Iran and Syria help with rebuilding? Bravo to President Bush for striking that idea down and vowing to keep those two countries out of Iraq. So how do the Iraqi people feel about everything? Of course they don't want the Americans here. But they would far rather have us here than the Iranians. My platoon visited an average Sunni village on a patrol a few days ago. Their only source of income was to farm, as they could not go to the city to work for fear of violence. Many of the young men had already run off to join the militia for no other reason than to feed their families. They had no school or hospital near them and the community was dying. The village elder's granddaughter was very sick and I was able to treat her. Afterwards he invited me and my Platoon Leader to sit in his house and have tea with him, and we talked about the situation. The people want peace. The Shiites kill the Sunnis because al-Sadr tells them to do so. The Sunnis fight back because they have no choice. They are glad Saddam is dead (Sunni or not), but do not want to replace him with another dictator in a politician's clothes (which is what al-Sadr will become). And they especially don't want Iran in charge. Many innocent Iraqis will die if this happens. These are the words that came out of the elder's mouth: "We do not want America here, and America does not want to be here. But you cannot leave because the militias controll the country. America must use the might of its giant army and sweep through, root out and destroy the militias. Then Iraq can be free and you can leave." What appears to have happened within our diplomatic community, is that Prime Minister finally realizes that his days are numbered. If al-Sadr remains, he will be kicked to the curb. So hopefully he is about to allow us to reenter Sadr City, root out and destroy the enemy. A dramatic troop increase will allow us to do this. And the Horse People are back and ready to finish what they started over 2 years ago. If we leave now, it will be a failure for democracy. Iran will control Iraq and the end result will be more terrorist attacks on America. The American people don't want soldiers dying over here, but its better than American civilians dying over there. Do NOT forget 9/11. They will do it again. The moment we loosen our grip on the noose, they will do it again. And the only way to root out the evil here is to stop beating around the bush, increase troops and destroy the insurgents once and for all. The Iraqi government cannot do this on their own. The Iraqi security forces are inadequate for this task. We are the only ones who can stop al-Sadr. Feel free to share this with whomever wants a real soldier's opinion about the war. SPC "Doc" Shurley 2/5 Cav, 1st CB http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55221Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:06:10 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55221Debra GottliebRemember, a house divided against itself cannot stand. Ignoring the problem will not go away. This nation must come together fast for our survival and strength. Do you trust a nation you cannot even communicate with. Yet, the military "stars" cannot get on the same page or refuse to see the big picture.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55222Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:06:48 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55222Pablo SwitI have to say that I have lived long enough in America to actually be ashamed of the way our political leaders conduct the business of this country. FOR SHAME! FOR SHAME! It is clear to me when I look back 30 years that this world is coming to a close. Gone are the days when we talk to our enemies and adversaries (we talked to Russia and China all through the cold war) to work out solutions. Gone are the days when our elected officials in Washington DC and State Governments work together as "AMERICANS", but that has been replaced by "Democrats are evil and Republicans are God". Even Republicans who disagree now with fellow Republicans are termed "Renegade Republicans". GOOD GOD, they act like KIDS! I have several years of supervising employees, and to be honest I'd fire every one of our political leaders (from top to bottom) and have them run for their offices again. I'd bet there would be a lot of new faces in Washington, because all this bickering is NOT what Americans want. They want REAL solutions, IRREGARDLESS of your party affiliation! The attacks on one another in Washington is instigated by the media and radio talk show hosts who are constantly trying to think for America with their VERY biased views. WAKE UP FELLOW AMERICANS, think on your own and not by the one-sided and warped views of media folks. My view is that we should vote for the person, and not for a political party. It is very dangerous for our country to vote for a party (that's what the Germans did when voting for Hitler's party, and it's what the Iraqi's did when voting for Saddam). Let's all face it fellow Americans -- we have been lied to purposely about the events leading up to the Iraqi war (it's coming out now if you've been reading the news stories coming out and drawing your conclusions, instead of listening to talk show hosts). You can call me a renegade if you'd like, but to be honest I am just ashamed of our leaders who have lied to America for their own political gain. As I said before, this is the last days in Earth's history. We cannot control that, so stay close to GOD!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55229Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:10:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55229johnWe have the right to reasonably question Iran's involvement in this mess. But the Baker/Iraq group should be heeded. Iraq and Iran are a major threat to our friends in Israel and if destabilized it buys Israel time thus it then it makes sense to bring Iran into the fray. To really solve the middle-eastern problems and provide for a safer environment for Israel is to practice dialog and fair treatment to all parties. Let's sit down with Iran, Syria and put it out on the table. WHy not what has been our foriegn policy to date has not worked. As far as trumping up weapons from Iranin Iraq do the neocons in Washington really want us to buy that wholesale agian. Haven't they done enough damage to our country's national interest...far more that the Iraq connection to 9/11.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55231Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:10:49 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55231Michael, Tulsa, OKIMO, the press dropped the ball during the run up to the Iraq invasion. The only verifiable argument that the Adminstration had, was that Hussein had used chemical weapons in the past. Even that was nearly 20 years before the invasion, ignored by Reagan, a disturbing relic of history during the administrations of George H W Bush and Bill Clinton. An invasion of Iran would be a disaster many times greater than the invasion of Iraq. The current administration has no verifiable case against the Iranian gov't. The fact that the Bush administration is trying to build a case, should disturb everyone.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55246Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:19:45 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55246Doug, MII wonder what kind of a deal could be struck between the US and Iran to move this situation forward. The current policies of the governments seem to be based mainly on provocations - we keep increasing sanctions and deploying more aircraft carriers while they keep fomenting violence on the streets of Iraq and Lebanon. Yet, it would seem that both countries have a great deal to gain if they could reach an accomodation - we could stabilize Iraq, begin drawing down forces, and improve our position in the region while they could get rid themselves of sanctions and emerge as the major player in Mid East. While both sides keep engaging in provocations, I am hopeful that this ends in some kind of diplomatic solution in the coming year. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55247Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:19:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55247David A, Houston, TxEmbarrassing that we Americans have allowed this corrupt administration to ram rod this once humble nation to international disgrace! The Republican Congress knowingly allowed G. Bush to disgrace our fore fathers, touch by God Constitution, “of for the people, by the people”. Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Madison, all must be crying . I am sorry for my apathy, Sirs.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55248Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:21:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55248uncle sam washington dcIs this just another made up Bush dream to Bully another country? How do you know Bush didn't buy this stuff on the blackmarket and plant it there so he can go play army man? I would not put anything past this guy....and he lead our country....scary.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55250Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:22:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55250Ryno, Ashland ORBeen here, heard this. Half of this country and most of the world were not fooled by the previous attempt to sell both a threat and a response. The dissent within the ranks was front page news then as it is now. Technical issue, as brought up by General Pace: Just because some weapons are made in Iraq doesn't mean that the Iraq government is behind their use everywhere they appear. To apply the same non-logic, the US government would be behind the use of US-made weapons wherever they are used in the world. It isn't. The arms business is it's own business, black market included. I just hope that this time the sheep will not allow themselves to be stampeded, but I fully expect to stand to the side as they run by, once again.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55253Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:27:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55253R. L. ,Please get all of your facts straight. I have done much research in the "real" news out in the world including the Iraq, Syria, Iran issues. I'm so disappointed in mainline's media maligning of the President and his Administration. For example, You won't even pay attention to a former general of Saddam Hussein, Georges Sada, who first hand, saw and heard evidence that Saddam had most of Iraq's WMD relocated to Syria and Lebanon before the U.S. attacked Iraq in March, 2003! This has never been investigated and the truth reported! Why? You do everything possible to bring doubt and confusion to the American and world peoples without understanding the consequences that this will have on world peace. I want you to consider how your actions and reporting WILL effect the peace that this world longs for but that we may soon lose because of the lack of support for what is the REAL TRUTH!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55257Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:31:40 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55257Carson Bevan, Canton, GeorgiaAnother irresponsible anti-Bush hit piece in the endless parade by the left-wing mainstream media. MSNBC's Headline suggests Bush's top general is undermining the president and military claim regarding source of bombs traced to Iran. MSNBC is intentionally misleading, hoping people wont read the contents too carefully, but just accept the premise of the headline as being factually accurate. People better wake-up and demand balanced reporting before America loses it's will and becomes a feckless socialist society like Europe unable to protect itself.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55258Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:31:42 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55258James Stepp Orlando, FLIt's so silly not at least talking to Iran. It sounds like a bunch of little girls in grade school having power tantrums. If we talk to them, convince them to conduct an investigation and monitor it it will either put a crimp in the weapons supply or it would give Iran enough rope to hang themselves. To not even engage them is an act of either cowardice or manipulation, neither of which is good for the American people. This administration does not have the credibility to be making claims like this without a lot more proof than they have provided here. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55260Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:34:36 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55260Joel Kiekbusch Perhaps Gen. Pace ought to be talking with Gen. Petraeus so he doesn't sound like the leaser of the Keystone Cops. Further - though I believe it hasn't come from him directly - if Petraeus came out and said that Iran is supplying the Shi'a side of the insurgency with materiel and funding, I'd believe him over a Pentagon official in a heartbeat. Iran IS meddling and trying to create undue influence in Iraq and for that matter, the entire Middle East. It's plainly obvious. How much? That's the big question...thus far its not enough for the U.S. to fully expose, or choose to do anything except raise general complaints.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55261Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:35:01 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55261Richard Talley, Torrance, CAThe other day I saw a 155 mm artillery shell on a TV newscast. It had a very large "2006" painted on the side and it purported to be of Iranian manufacture. I had never seen an artillery round with the date painted on the side in that way, but the thing that came to me was the question, "Is a Moslem theocracy manufacturing ammo with a Christian date painted on the side?" Seems like it ought to be 1384 or something like that. Then I saw an article showing RPG rockets with 5-31-2006 imprinted on them. So I asked an Iranian friend who served in the Iranian Armed Forces in the last days of the Iran-Iraq war. He said: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi R_____ So this question is related to understanding if Iranian arms are in the hands of Iraqi insurgents or not? I have only seen the old arms, and those were marked with SHAHANSHAHI date system, or SHAMSI, say 1350. I believe all those made in Iran will be marked by 13xx system. I still believe Bush and Condi are making hoaxes to advance their goals, Iran is not a threat to west, while west is a real threat to Iran and mid east these days :) Cheers, P_____ ------------------ This friend also says that Iran has tons and tons of munitions left over from the Iran-Iraq war. He can't understand why his country would waste money making brand new munitions for an enterprise with uncertain outcome when they have all this old stuff they could get rid of.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55264Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:40:35 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55264V.Alvarez Hallandale FloridaIn light of General Pace comments we may assume that Russian AK 47 and american anmunition are killing our our soldiers too. Are the Russian or ourselves at war with our own kids in Iraq?. This is my take: We justify a war in Iraq with the A arms of mass destruction wich was a lie. Ten we justify it as a liberation war for the people of Iarq and bomb the hell out of them. Now we are sorprise that we were received as liberators. Now we want them to impose peace by themselves so we can get out of our own mess. And now we want to bomb the hell out of Iran for helping them. Do you think that the had hoped the canadians would have help us had we had the Russian invade us? Simple put: We should not have please Bush and his war and send our kids to do and get all the harm is being done.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55267Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:42:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55267Dave H, Lemoore, Ca.True or false, we're in no position to do anything about it. Our power's been frittered away and anybody who thinks that a few air strikes into Iran won't lead to serious couter-strikes by the Iranians is a fool. A face off with Iran at this time is not what we need.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55272Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:44:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55272Alex, Ontario, CA.Bush, bush, bush. When will we all learn that war is not the answer to this nonsense. We have not had any interaction or diplomatic talks with Iran since 1979, the year of the Islamic Revolution that was caused by, the "United States." Im really sick of this to be honest. If Bush had anywhere near a brain, he would try to talk to Iran as we have not tried to do so since 1979. If Iran is supplying the Shiites in Iraq, then dont you sheep think that the Saudis would be supplying the Sunnis? Im serious, people are so dumb. Stop living in your "materialistic" lifestyle. You are all being spoon-fed every single day. Go out and breathe air, study/research, work, go to school, and stop spending countless hours on nothing and waiting for this administration to continue to give us an answer. The answer is: IMPEACH BUSH BEFORE WE GO INTO ANOTHER WAR. WE WILL NOT WIN A WAR AGAINST IRAN. SINK THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS! What happened to land of the free, home of the brave? I see nothing, but land of the slaves, home of the cowards. Stand up and stop this mad man.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55273Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:45:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55273David, Louisville, KentuckyI, for one, am darn proud of President Bush and our soldiers who are doing everything they can to keep the whacko extreemists and terrorists from attacking Americans on American soil. Too bad more Americans can not realize this. Wake up dummies, the media is lying to you and it is your lives that are at stake, not any elected office or political party.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55276Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:48:14 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55276Phuc Vu, Boston, MACan we, as the citizens of the USA, contain our own government? They are corrupt (and you know they are) and trigger happy WITHOUT concern of the citizens below them (invading Iraq when EVEN I knew they didn't have WMD's or Al-Qaeda ties). We constantly allow our corrupt government to poke it's noses into other governments business and never into our own failing business. Can we for ONCE fix our own issues before invading countries over fixed (or fake) information provided by our corrupt government to fix their issues? One more thing... if we can do it... they can do it. We have to practice what we preach. We want peace... then practice peace. That being said... if WE have nuclear plants then other countries can have nuclear plants.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55277Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:48:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55277Stuart PressI wonder why it is that I just don't trust what the Bush administration is saying....maybe because this whole thing on Iran supplying IEDs and whatnot to Iraqi insurgents sounds so similar to that B.S. that was shoveled down our throats to get us into the Iraqi mess to begin with? Not only has Bush used up all of the "political capital" he once claimed to have had...he's in debt up to his eyeballs!! Between all of the "spin" and the outright lies this administration has told over the past 6 years, I simply do not believe ANYTHING it says anymore!!!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55278Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:50:40 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55278Lucinda, Lewes DE When Benjamin Netanyahu goes on record saying America must be lobbied and convinced in the media that war with Iran is necessary - I started worrying that the Iran rhetoric would start to gin up. It is. Are we going to let any nation drag us into a war.When other allies shed their blood for us for a change, maybe then we can spill our blood. But right now we have shed enough American blood and treasure - and we get nothing out of it except hatred.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55279Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:51:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55279DHill, San Jose, Ca.USS Lusitana, USS Liberty, The Maine, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Toncan, baby being throwen out of Incubators, 9/11, WMD, and now Iranian Weapons? We accept these lies from our government becasue we are all heavily invested in the War Industry, without it we may need to innovate, we may need to compete, we would need a huge massive Industry to take its' place. Private Ownership in the Military Defense Industry is a tell tale sign of a fascist state. We need War, we export War, we wrap our selves in the flag and in our faith and we rationalize the need for blood stained streets. We need a new Business. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55281Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:51:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55281K.L., MissouriThe quickest step to world peace would be to stop funding the US Military Industrial Complex. Enact a massive tax on war profits, and I think we would be shocked at how quickly the "conflict" in Iraq would be over.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55284Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:55:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55284BobHow was it??? In 1980 we boycotted the Olimpics,because the Bad Rusky invated Afganistan...So a little later the CIA gave 4000 Stingers to the Talaban/Afgan fighters. So now the would have to aks ourself,"How many Ruskys where killed with them, and WHO is/was responsible"???http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55285Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:55:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55285Chuck Swanson, Sierra Vista, AZWe'll see how true the administration's claims about Iran and the EFP's is when they do, or do not, fire the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. That will be an excellent barometer. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55286Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:56:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55286Steve Althouse, Jonesboro IN 46938This pathetic administration remind me of "Baghdad Bob", if you remember him. Lets not blame ourselves or the Iraqis on this monumental global blunder, lets find another scapegoat - Iran. I have no use whatsoever for Iran and the idiot running the country, but I wouldn't any more believe anything from this administration than I would from Iran. I don't know how Gen. Pace got away with what he said, but I will be surprised if he is in his position, or at least recants what he said publicly. As a former U.S. Marine combat veteran, I hope he was just speaking honestly. That would indeed be a breath of fresh air from anyone even remotely connected with this bunch of liers in this administration.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55288Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:56:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55288Guntis TeraudsSo what? Everybody seems to be hyperventilating about Iran supplying weapons to Iraq. Just what have we been doing for the past 50 years? Just what are we doing this very day? We supply weapons, money, expert advise, etc. to any group of people we think can help destroy any government we don't agree with. Yes this includes Iran. It also includes countries in Africa, and South America. So what is the beef about somebody supplying weapons and money to some group that they support? GROW UP!! P.S. I don't believe that a responder Dave Manitowoc from WI has been to Iraq as he claims.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55289Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:56:40 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55289Mark Acuff, Glendale, CANothing but questions... How can Iranians physically interact and give arms to the Iraqi bad-guys? Isn't controlling the border a standard part of a stabilization and occupation mission? Why is the U.S.A. so inadequate at controlling the borders in Iraq? Or in the home land itself for that matter? http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55290Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:56:52 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55290J MarconiVoices of Iraq, an Iraqi news publication,stated that one of the briefers was Major General William Caldwell. VOI may have been tipped off by the angered Iraqi reporters who walked out of the briefing before it was finished. Nevertheless, it does seem strange that the briefers could not be identified. Other unsettling briefings have not carried that condition. I understand about the analyst. However, at the very least, the House and the Senate Intelligence Committees should be fully informed.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55293Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:02:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55293ron ralowichlets see george and dick sittin in a tree ........stealing anything they get their hands from u an me.....where are the good snipers when ya really need emhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55294Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:03:03 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55294Ron Byrnes-Chehalis,Wa. This country is doing it again, jumping to conclusions, just like Bush saying there were weapons of mass destruction, before he sent our troops to to die. There are too many idiots trying to run this country, when in fact, they can't even get their facts straight. Why are there so many stupid Americans who put up with George Bush. He should be charged with war crimes and impeached. He is killing a whole generation of people who will never know their children because they died over this senseless war. We are not going to win the war on terror. It first starts at home and Bush is doing nothing to keep us safe here at home. He cuts all the programs to help people in this country and then this country gives free healthcare to immigrants, when there are Americans who can't afford healthcare. Do you Americans really think Bush is doing a good job? I say not. And now he wants to cut down benefits for our veterns who fought for this country. We have no right being in Iraq, but the American people are letting Bush get away with killing our troops. We sure can't wait till his term is up or he is impeached. Americans can go to www.votetoimpeach.org and let Congress know that Bush needs to go. Why do we have to put up with Bush and his mistakes? Let's do something about it. Bush has screwed up too many times and he needs to go.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55297Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:03:49 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55297Kitty, Calera, AlabamaWho can believe anything this government says? Fabricated evidence - pretty much a certainty. This nation needs to wake up - and FAST. I would like to hear from the civilians in the streets of Baghdad and find out the percentage of CIVILIANS who still want us there!!!! Please someone, answer that question... How many Iraqi civilians still want us there? They are falling apart and we cannot stop it. It's sad. I heard that $8 Billion is missing in Iraq - COMPLETELY GONE! This was money to help "jump-start" their economy. That $8 Billion could have certainly gone to MUCH better causes in the U.S. - You know, like people who are now homeless because our healthcare in this nation SUCKS! Or, Maybe this money could have built that wall on the border and protected our own borders. Nah, how foolish of me to think logically in this Country! Wake up Americans. Get a voice!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55299Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:04:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55299NimaOh Now there is a debate about if the Government is involved or not at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17129144/from/ET/ This is how Americans prove their first point that the material came from iran, no question about that. Just a debate about if the Government is involved or not. Good Trick General, but we ain't fools. How the heck do you link a serial # to a government in the first place?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55302Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:05:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55302Bill Roush Phoenix Az.How long will it take for the naysayers to wake up. What will it take a IED in your back yard to determine what is going on in this world,folks it is reality not some place you have in your mind that these people want to play nicey nice. Oh yeah and if I hear another moron talk about how Bush lied I am gonna scream get a grip people!!!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55303Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:06:34 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55303S.F. Tracy CAI think we should remember that in dealing with Iran we are dealing with two governments. The one that sits in the U.N. and whose spokesman is Ach Ma Dinner Plate and the one who really runs the show ... the Ayatollah who can pull as many strings as he want's to without even talking to the "Official Government". I'm sure he has he resources to do anything he wants without implicating the "Official Government". That's the problem. Plausible Deniability.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55305Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:07:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55305T.J. Aman, Chicago,ILJust more BS. Without even using the 2 carrier battle groups, how much did it cost to just move them over to the persian gulf? Israel is about to get us into WWIII, and we'll be fighting for it, and we'll be paying for it. Go on you tube and look at the "stupid american" videos. Its appalling. Half of America couldn't locate Iran on a map...Impeach Bush & Cheney right now!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55308Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:07:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55308Norm ColsonWhy does anyone believe anything that comes out of our Government anymore? The praises that people lay on George"W" Bush are unearned by that little loser! It is completely visible that this Bush/Rowe team are dying to get into Iran for their little friends at "HALIBURTON and Carlisle(Bush senior) Group"! Support our troops they yell, then still four years later they still deny our troops the proper equipment they need for their missions! I have friends there and have on many occasion sent stuff myself for their use and safety! We do support our military whereever they have been sent! Support our Government, well that jury is still out! I would feel so much better if he(BUSH) would go back in his closet and talk to Mr. Hand! One lie is more than enough for distrust,and it would seem all on the Potomac would lie before they would tell the truth on anything!Norm of Denverhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55311Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:09:41 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55311Dave - Philadelphia, PABlame Canada!! No, seriously, Bush and gang is a proven group of liars that fabricate anything that helps advance their own agendas. Even when the actual truth comes out, they fabricate something new, as if that's been the goal the whole time. So what is it, George? Did Ahmedinejad pee in your Wheaties, or what? Also, isn't it sad that what is based in reality is coming to be known as "liberal". HEATHENS!!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55317Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:13:15 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55317J. M., Phoenix, AZAsking us to believe that Iran is directly involved in attacks on coalition forces is an indication that the United States may be "suiting up" for war with Iran. We don't want to ignore a real threat, but we have seen that our government is willing to manipulate information to get what it wants and are unwilling to take any more chances based on unreliable information. Mostly, we just don't want unnecessary bloodshed. As they say, what goes around, comes around. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55318Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:13:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55318C WarnkeWhat most folks here have yet to understand is that this is just not the U.S. saying that Iran is involved. since we do not have true diplomatic relations with iran, alot of this information needs to be verified by other countries. Additionally, its not just this evidence, but the FACT that Iran has REPEATEDLY threatened the U.S. Threatened to destroy the U.S., Kill its soldiers, and drive it not only from the middle east, but from the earth. how in gods name can you even doubt that they would be willing to brovide material for the insurgents? Logically, isnt more advisable to take the Iranian government at its word? Supporting evidence happens to exist in corroborated evidence in the form of tail fins and whatnot. It think its rediculous that people say that we should err on the side of caution with Global warming, but then want to open thier arms to a lunatic trying to make a nuke that has already said he wants to use on the united states. COME ON PEOPLE!!! Excercise some consistancy of thought and dont be bound by your political affiliation.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55321Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:13:53 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55321Stop the criminals!It's a shame that our elected officials on Capital Hill don't have the guts to impeach these criminals before they start another war that we don't have enough troops for.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55322Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:13:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55322D. HowardFinally a US General has the guts not to be railroaded by the Smoke and Mirrors administration and state the facts for what they are. It's a shame that the House and Senate didn't have the nerve to do the same six years ago. "Misled" (I spit on the ground). All the current president want to be's were misled? Children cry "It's not my fault" but adults and leaders accept responsibility for their actions. Congrats General Pace.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55324Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:14:42 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55324Robert A. RobinsonThe Bush administration is now building their case for war against Iran. Recently reporters were shown "evidence" that high-tech weapons which had been used to kill American troups came from Iran. In the recent briefing the reporters also were told these weapons had been authorized by the highest authorities in the Iranian government. Does this not remind anyone of the way the Bush administration used lies and half-truths to create a case for war against Iraq? Lets look at some uncontested facts: The insurection against the Shia-dominated, elected government of Iraq is the activity of Sunnis. The government of Iran is comprised of Shia Muslims and is on good terms with the Iraqi government. To date, there is no evidence of any Shia attacks on American forces except when our army has acted to arrest one of the most prominent Shia leaders or have acted to stop Shia militias from killing Sunni civilians. Recent news reports revealed extensive monitary support of the Sunni insurection by wealthy Saudis, not Iranians. The Bush Administration has been ramping up their verbal attacks against Iran, has used the U.S. military to arrest Iranian diplomats and has threatened military action against Iran if their nuclear enrichment program is not ended. Finally, President Bush has dispatched two U.S. naval aircraft battle groups into the Persian Gulf where it would be easy to engineer a "Tonkin Gulf" type incident to provide an excuse for going to war against Iran. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55325Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:14:52 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55325MuffinYea! and they have WMD too! ;)http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55329Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:21:17 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55329Eleanor SotoThere needs to be consequences to lying to manipulate the country. How many people will die and how many billions, trillions well be spent to bully the world. Where has deplomacy gone? Impeach Bush, hold him responsible for his actions.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55330Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:21:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55330IB, Tampa, FlLet's start by impeaching the idiots in this administration. "Intelligence coming from the White House' is an oxymoron. Just lies,lies,lies! Wake up,folks. Is this Congress going to get it right for once and show they have the cojones to do what the American people want? http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55331Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:21:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55331Billthe irony is that many of the people within Iran who want their president out of office (he's about as popular there as Bush is here), want the U.S. to back off because by threatening Iran we are only empowering their current administration. It would seem that both the U.S. and Iranian presidents need this build-up to attempt support for their failed policies, and as usual it is the regular people who get screwed. if Bush really wanted change in iran, he would back off with the military threat and allow for sanctions to take effect. with high unemplyment and bank failures already happening in Iran, along with a low approval rating the best course of action would be to let Iran take care of its own problem. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55333Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:23:08 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55333bjohnson, union, kyYah, so what if they were. And how many weapons killing iraqi and usa soldiers are from the usa or russia. Woopy doo, i dont find this revealing. The usa is the largest exporter of weapons, and we cry about another country who doesnt like us doing it! Remember, reagan armed saddam to fight iran, and no one complained. so now iran wants us out of iraq and we complain. lets not be too idiotic.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55335Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:23:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55335The Byrnes Family-Chehalis,Wa.There, this country goes again,jumping to conclusions over Iran, just like the Bush Administration did with Iraq. They never seem to get their facts straight but this country lets Bush get away with it anyway. Why are we in Iraq? It's because George Bush sent our troops to war for no good reason. and now he is killing a whole generation of people who aren't going to see their children grow up. Bush needs to go, right along with his administration. They are not doing anything for this country except cutting programs for the American people and giving free healthcare to immigrants when some Americans can't even afford it. Why are we putting up with Bush? And now he's wanting to cut benefits for our veterns who fought for this country. Let's impeach Bush at www.votetoimpeach.org and tell Congress we are tired of Bush and his lies.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55336Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:23:38 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55336Robert , San AntonioAlmost everyone on the planet uses the "Christian Date Stamp" AK-47's are manufactured all over the planet. All of you Bush haters need to read some history and realize that the pacifest Jimmy Carter got us stared down this dark road when he helped oust the Shaw of Iran. The present President of Iran is one of the perpetraitors to the Hostage stand off that Jimmy couldn't solve because he's got no BACK BONE. Our Current President has got a Back bone but he being constantly undermined by the press and all the spineless politicians. We need to take the PC gloves off of our troops. Wars are UGLY, but the only way to end one is to destroy your enemy. We had Vietnam won but Henery Kisenger went to the Peace talks and gave in instead of DEMANDING SURRENDER. The ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST (about %20 of Islam)Hate and want to kill us. They are being taught that from birth. This has been Going on since the Early 70's. They think your soft. You're proving it.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55337Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:24:46 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55337BERNESE THACKERYou know it's a case of dammed if you and dammed if you don't. Bush gets the blame for protecting us against Saddam now if Saddam had gotten a bomb off over here then Bush would have gotten the blame for not taking him out. Liberals want to talk,talk,talk it did't work with Bin Laden look at what happened there. Clinton should have taken him out but he did't.The president of Iran gets on world wide televison and talks about wipeing out the US. We are supposed to go over and talk to him. What would you say please we are weak please don't kill us. YOU LIBERAL IDOTS NEED TO WAKE AND SMELL THE ROSES THIS IS NOT A NORMAL WAR THE ENEMY DOES NOT PLAY BY THE RULES THEY ARE SERIOUS AND THEY WANT TO KILL YOU AND ME. I for one am proud and glad to have a president that will have the guts to stand up to these radical muslum crazy people. YES I SAID NOT POLITICALY CORRECT BUT TRUE CRAZY PEOPLE WHO WANT US BLOWN OFF THE MAP.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55340Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:25:49 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55340Jim, PAI have a few questions. 1. If Iran is supplying weapons to Iraq why would they have serial numbers? Wouldn’t that be stupid on their part? Anybody can stencil a serial number. 2. Is the U.S. supplying arms and or money to the faction that wants to overthrow the Iranian government? 3. Are missing some important facts? 4. Are any other countries supporting the faction in Iraq? 5. How does Saudi Arabia fit into this picture? I feel that we are being misled again. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55344Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:26:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55344kouroshGo to Baztab.com it shows the evidence against iran. well they are made in Pakistan???!!! the bombs i meanhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55345Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:26:17 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55345Sharam Niktabe, Chicago, IllinoisHave we forgotten the hezbollah's war with Israel?. We learned through Israeli media that they had captured tons of hezbolla'h arms which was manufactured in Iran. U.S. could easilly asked Israelis to loan some of them to U.S. so we can take a picture and say " here you guys this are the evidence you wanted." Most of weapons come from saudi arabia , Jordan, surely they provided with man power to fight the American and Iraqi shiiat. I am surprised why Iraqis government don't blame Iran? They are frequently visiting Iran for economic help. How many times Iraqi leaders visited saudi arabia or Jordan or Egypt? Ask the iraqi people and government and They all tell you that Saudi's and jordanian are roots of all evil. Oh one last thing. Where was zakariya mousawi from? "JORDAN" How many Of 911 terorist from saudi Arabia ? "15" Bush Administartion has no credibillty has no dignity. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55349Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:28:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55349Bill Tamp Floridac warnke-- i would be more surprised if iran was NOT involved in iraq in come way, however, wasnt China involved in Viet Nam? Nixon opened the door with China in 1971...so how about keeping some dialogue open and quit trying to beat everyone into agreement with the U.S. How much of a threat is Iran to the U.S.? Reallistically Iran is a Third World nation capable of little to nothing outside its Region. Iran has said it does NOT want war with the U.S. while the U.S. is sending THREE carrier fleets to the region just to antagonize and intimidate Iran. interestingly enough, the British, who are the bulk of the border between Iran-Iraq, do not believe in the story of and organized Iran supplying Iraq. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55351Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:28:42 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55351Edward SteinIt's no secret now that everything we were told to justify the war in Iraq was a lie (as if "they" needed "US" to approve what they were doing anyway). Everything "they" do now is about PRIDE. The US is losing thousands of good, honest, and loyal soldiers in a senseless war in Iraq and Afghanistan because of PRIDE. "Pride cometh before a fall..." Ever read that before? President Bush can't make heads nor tails of what's going on now in the Middle East, no one can. Just goes to show how much "Freedom" we actually have here in America. Our fathers, brothers, uncles, etc. are dying because of a lie, and "We the People" are powerless to stop it.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55356Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:33:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55356Richard Talley, Torrance, CAThese are the comments of an Iranian friend, currently living in Tehran on the photos shown in LA Times. He has served in the Iranian Army. see http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iragiran12feb12b-pg,0,1324823.photogallery?coll=la-home-headlines&index=3 Thanks, I am seeing the image at the moment, I believe that can be an stupid image of such a mortar shell, we have built our mortars since Shah era, and those are for sure marked with Shamsi date system, and those are all the newest ones. Who can be that stupid to think we have consumed our 15 years (or more) of our weapon's cache that we give out latest and freshest ones out for free?!!! Tell them that is the most stupid evidence I have ever seen, they at least could find a factory mark! There must be a sign of IRI Defence Industries or like that! Then Kurdistan has a huge armory of weapons of every side, since years, and those could be Iranian, American, Russian, etc. weapons theft or so! ok, it seems there are more images... 2: RPGs: These are Russian RPGs, Iranian ones (at least those I have seen)are not like that, they are curved toward outside. 3: mortars 81, as before. 4: no relation to our conversation, nothing of weapon is seen. 5: It is like an Iranian card for sure if not forged. Then, many many of people have such cards, and they go to Iraq to pilgrimage, and having an IRGC card means nothing special to me, it doesn't mean it is an agent. And many people go to Iraq for pilgrimage with no passports. Afterall, do you think an agent will bring his ID card with him?! :) 6: It is an EFP as they say, probably an RPG cut like that (RPG-7 is a n EFP device itself, to peneterate into armour). So what? is there an Iranian in there?! Overall, for sure there are people in Iran who like to participate in Iraq, but I doubt if they are ordered by government, or if USG can really blame Iran for helping insurgents, that way. It is propaganda, of the same type we see in Iran against US. Cheers, Phttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55359Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:33:38 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55359dave vermontiran is not killing american troops.......our president is.......http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55362Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:34:45 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55362B. DanielsKudos, General Pace! Please keep speaking out against the lies and unsubstantiated allegations of the Bush Adminstration. Remember Iraq ...http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55367Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:35:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55367Dianne Valentin, Atlanta, GeorgiaI am glad that Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has the integrity and back bone to say what he did in the AP article. This is a civil war that we should not be involved in. It is clear that the administration is showing disrespect for our intellect once again. We don't believe what they say, or what the puppets that they have in place say. We have access to information that is accurate which is probably why they are trying to change the internet as we know it. We have to continue to pay attention and hold people accountable for what they say and do in our name. And as odd as it sounds, thanks to Steven Colbert's Press Club routine, we may possibly be getting some of our journalists to be true journalists again. Peace and Love are truly the only answer to the question.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#55371Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:37:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:55371Raymond Hernandez, San Antonio, TXIt would be foolish to go to war with Iran. The left would not allow victory.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56171Wed, 14 Feb 2007 02:39:45 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56171Alex A., Bristol, IndianaWhether Bush was right or wrong to invade Iraq is in material at this point. Most American does not have good knowledge of history of Middle East. Sunnis and Shiites cannot live side by side. Iranians are Shiites, and they used Shiite religion for invading other countries. Just like Communist Russia used communism to capture other countries. In 1512 AD, Ottoman King (Sultan) Yavuz Selim warned Shah Ishmael of Iran to stop Shiite activities in Anatolia. Shah Ishmael he did not pay attention to Sultan Selim’s warnings, in April 23, 1514 AD, Yavuz Sultan Selim of Ottoman Empire came to Iran with his army and Shah Ishmael lost the battle and left his wife and rubies adorned throne and escaped out of country. Today you could see that throne at Istanbul Topkapi Museum. I am not surprise that Iranians helping Shiites in Iraq; this is to their benefit. They would like to invade Shiite majority portions of the Iraq. This would be easy victory; local Shiites will be waiting for them. It was terrible mistake to destroy Sadam Hussein. He was secular ruler and he was a Sunni but he was able to control Shiites. Now we have very serious problem on hand. Only way to solve this present dilemma and avoid a Civil War is to Federate Iraq. It should be divided to 3 States. Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish States with a Federal Government in Baghdad should be established. Economics and religious zealot are incentives to kill. I am proposing that a government form similar to what we have in USA should be established. They can divide Oil Income based on population of each State. At this stage we cannot point fingers to Bush Administration or hightail out of Iraq after we destroyed the place. We need to help Iraqis. If Iranians do not stop interfering with Iraq and do not stop with their nuclear ambition, I would suggest an air raid like we did to Muammar Qaddafi at Libya. It sure brought the fear of Allah to Libya. Iranian Nuclear facility should be one of the targets. We can also change our rules of engagement; we cannot have our military personnel get shot like duck in the shooting gallery. We are tying our military personnel’s hands according to engagement rules of the News Media. We cannot sort out so that we can only hit to bad guys only. If a bad guy getting harbored, entire area should be wiped clean. War is ugly but if we must fight lets fight it. We can’t project Paper Tiger image, it is time to carry big stick and walk softly. In USA criticism of American Government is encouraging Insurgents, this is motivating enemy. It is costing lives to our military. Who need enemy, as long as we have bloody Parties that back stabbing each other and Left Wing Liberal News Media? http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56188Wed, 14 Feb 2007 02:47:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56188Mary Korte, Shingletown, CASomebody is not telling the straight of this situation of Iran supplying amunition to Araq. Just today I listened to an interview on the Hanity radio show of a woman whose son is serving in the Marines. This young man phoned his mother very recently saying his command had uncovered a large stash of weapons in Iraq this past weekend and, the container they were shipped in identified it had been shipped from Iran. He saw this first hand! To think the Joint Chief of Staff isn't aware of this find is not conceivable, hopefully they're waiting for an absolute identification before it's officially reported.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56231Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:10:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56231p Arteaga Here we go again... but let it be, wars are by no means conventional. Remember Israel/Lebanon Summer 2006? I'll love to see US Vs Iran... let the fire crackers begin, even if my cousins in the US army get shafted. By the way... Human Right, Democracy and Freedom for the US are only excuses to advance it's IMPERIALISM AGENDA. Why the support to Musharaf, Saudi Arabia and the list goes on... Hasta La Victoria Siempre... http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56236Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:13:01 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56236Bassil DuwaikI think this has been said before, none the less I'll retort. I believe that the information being cited against Iran isn't the least bit creditable being that it may be manipulated to manifest the ambitions of those in power (Bush). If history is any measure of judge that is. Besides what in the hell are we doing in Iraq? I want Osama not Saddam much less whomever is in Iran!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56250Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:22:15 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56250mike alibasic cedar papids,ia.just another spin by the administration to try to get their heads out of their asseshttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56251Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:22:48 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56251Ken PattersonShaped charges have been around for a very long time and that's what we are seeing in the "bad guys" arsenal in Iraq,of late.The "locals" can certainly produce their own from the vast stockpiles left uncollected on the battle field when Sadam and his army were disposed of. More critically,why can't our pols redeem the sacrifices of our truly courageous Marines and soldier by thinking outside the box and considering that it is past time that the Iraqi government proceed to fish or cut bait from this point foward.If we are expecting them to produce the Jeffersonian democracy\of our dreams,they may never be ready (or even interested).Remember our nation began with Articles of Confederation first and there was long and contentious struggle between those advocating a strong central govenment and the States rights folk.Maybe the best the Iraqis can achieve for now is a confederation of sorts based along ethnic lines with a weaker central government charged with national defense and of course equitable distribution of oil revenues.We could expect help here from others in the region who have a stake in not being blown away in a regional conflict(Jordan,Egypt.Emirates.Saudi and yes even the Syrians and Iranians).There was a time,pre Sadam ,when Shiias and Sunnis got along very well.They seem now to need a little breathing space.It worked ,despite the bumps,for a divided India (Pak and India)and it might well be what obtains here.Rather than holding to an all or nothing win on Iraq or a not so subtle retreat like our ignominious desertion of a valiant Vietnam,let's considerthat the answer may lie with a formula which the regional powers (all of a common moselm faith)can best devise.There is a way out of this for our Pols which can truly redeem the heroic efforts of our armed forces by thinking well outside the box.These regional powers know our military might,fear it and do have a vested interest in stability in the neighborhood.Consider ,at least,plan Bhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56252Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:23:15 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56252RM, Mansfield, MAA number of comments on this blog start with "does this administration think I will be fooled again?" Apparently this is the case considering a strong minority seems to believe the charges being leveled against Iran. I am one of the few that was against the Iraq invasion from the beginning as I watched an administration fabricate evidence to support their coming actions. The administration was just in the Afghan operation and actually had the opportunity to prove itself as an enforcer of UN resolutions. Bush had the attention of Iraq when he mobilized troops and threatened an invasion and I was in agreement that the UN resolutions had been, for far too long, ignored. Had the administration stopped there and forced Iraq to allow the UN inspectors unfettered access to any location, this war would not have been necessary and we would have far more credibility in the world. We would have been the United States that "stood for something". Instead, I sat and watched as this administration drove us into a war that was first for WMD, then a litany of other reasons, none of which were valid. The Iraq war was going to happen no matter how much evidence was uncovered that disproved Iraq's involvement in 9/11 or WMD. The drumbeat of war is again being banged. The administration is preparing us by rolling out the "evidence" as we see from this article. Some individuals have expressed concern for Israel. Though Israel is an ally and I would certainly be in favor of protecting it should it become absolutely necessary, I do not live in Israel and I do not want my foreign policy based on what Israel wants. Israel takes care of Israel first and foremost. Do those that advocate bombing Iran realize that we and the British overthrew their first democratically elected government and installed the Shah? Do they realize this was done for more favorable oil deals? Do they realize that we armed Saddam and supported him in a war that is reported to have killed 1 million Iranians and never condemned him when he used chemical weapons? I suggest that those in favor of war get off their butts and enlist. As for me and my children, we will stay here and do what we can to elect a more rational, ethical and honest government. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56256Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:29:20 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56256Barry Bingham, Las Vegas, USAI love these little blogs and I especially love the little surveys at the end of bs media articles all of which the bs media uses to measure how effective they are being in giving "we the people" our opinion. Iran is running out of oil. Everyone in the oil industry knows this is true. Hence the need for nuclear power program and hey you guessed it--Control of Iraqi oil wouldn't hurt their situation either. Iran in general has no interest in "Death to America" or Israel. This is just a smoke screen to keep all the weak minded extremists in an uproar or in plain words create a little diversion while they carry out their sinister plans. Iran is playing a chess game nothing more. it's good to see that there still appears to be a good many out there who are still thinking for themselves. As for those of you letting the media control your meager thoughts -well-may you be among the first to encounter an Arab extremist first hand "God is Great" C'yahttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56270Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:42:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56270Tom, PAIt would not surprise me if Iran was making weapons for Iraqi extremists. Although a lack of information concerns me. If these accusations can be proven then war will come and with my full support but I need more evidence first. We would have eventually had to gone into Iraq eventually no doubt in my mind about that. The blunder was taking the shot at Saddam which was the start of the war. Then they failed to kill him in the first attack. They should have waited longer and tried to prove their case or at least made the shot. I think we should focus on Afghanistan more than what we are doing. People seem to have forgotten that we are in Afghanistan and that the war there is still going full throttle. Don't forget the men and women in Afghanistan. Never forget Sept. 11 2001! Always remember! Remember the men and women who are serving our country. If you don't think that the war is still going on in Afghanistan check out youtube.com and search War in Afghanistan and you can see videos from the front lines in Afghanistan. Yes there are videos of fighting. Never Forget war is an evil but a necessary evil. Remember are fallen soldiers and civilians who have perished at the hands of these terrorists. Honor their memory every day by thinking of them and their families. Remember the wounded and dead. Never forget their sacrifice that they made for our country and our freedom. Never forget their sacrifice to ensure a safe future for us all. Never forget! Always Remember! http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56274Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:50:45 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56274Big Brother, Everywhere, EverydayAhhhhhh....My plan is nearly complete. bigbrother@imthemedia.comhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56275Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:52:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56275Marv Leit, Ann Arbor, MIAs I read through these blogs I get the distinct impression that we have a lot of extremists right here in our own country. The real war against terrorism being fought by America and its allies is in Afghanistan. The war in Iraq is Bush and Cheney's war, not an American war supported by the people. But they have tricked us into it, and we as a country must fight it for them. It's a sad fact that Bush and Cheney squandered their credibility and exposed their lack of integrity by lying to us and the world about the reasons for going to war in Iraq. They have set themselves up for accusations of lying by Iran. The assertion that Iran is behind the supply of weapons to Iraqui insurgents is not proven, but one thing is sure, Bush and Cheney are at it again. The fact that they remain in office confirms an observation made by the last great republican president, 'you can fool some of the people all of the time'. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56276Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:54:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56276youknow whoiam, uknow,alSorry Jane, other than you choice of headline your story was NOT totally full of crap.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56286Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:01:41 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56286John, Vancouver, Wash.We fought in Viet-Nam to stop the domino effect. Looks like we've created one in the Mid-east. If Iran is sending weapons to Iraq it looks like they're trying to have the Iraqis do their dirty work for them. Now about the WMD thing... Weren't none in Iraq, we've got them all in Umatilla an Hermiston. I fought both in VietNam and Desert Storm.. Both times it was a lie. How many more kids have to die for some politician's image?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56290Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:07:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56290Any AnnyluianiUS foreign policy is made, created and cooked up in Tel Aviv for Israels survival. The nation that have defied over 60 UN resolutions, defied the IAEA, defied the World World Court, the longest occupying force in a modern history, defy the Geneva Convention, the worst human rights record, invaded Lebanon 7 times whewww... shame on you Pol Pothttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56292Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:11:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56292HamidIran has been supplying bombs and explosives to Ansar-al-Sunna (an al-Qaeda oriented death squad group) and to Sadr. But western leftist post-colonialist due to their hatred of democracy and hatred of freedom and liberties, prefer to romanticize these death squads and religious fascists, at the expense of democracy and liberalism.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56298Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:20:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56298Mel Barnes, Canton, NYI place the government's evidence into the same category as ghosts, goblins and other mystical things.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56302Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:23:52 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56302Matthew, Richardson, Glendale, ArizonaRegardless of whether or not the United States is lying about its resources as for proving whether or not Iran is helping terrorists in Iraq, there is obviously a deeper issue with Russia and China. Already China told the United States to not tamper with agreements that it made with Iran, and Russia already announced that it supports Iran. People keep thinking Bush is doing this for him and his buddies to get filthy rich, why would him and his whole cabinet risk a WW3 on money that can't save his own life? There's a much larger picture that people are missing...http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56306Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:31:46 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56306Deemah, ca, washingtonlies, lies, 100's of lies. Bush's facist ideas making the world more dangerous. American people will understand this time. let us align togethor oust this terrorist from white house.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56308Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:32:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56308christian thomasThe United States has for as long as anyone can remember supplied other countries with hardware. My question is,should those countries have gone to war with us because of it?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56309Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:32:52 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56309Azami, Dallas, TexasThe US attack Iran?!!! What a laugh! The US is a defacto ally of Iran. The US went to war on behalf of IRan, openened the Iraqi border to the Iranian killers, trained and installed the Iranian death squads in the genocidal government of Iraq(called by Iraqis, shiite and Sunnis alike,Safawis), and lastly the USA deliberately compromised its own position against Iran by placing 150, 000 American soldiers hostages to the Iranian dictates. Please, people on the right and the left, wake up. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56323Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:46:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56323Joe Connecticut“U.S. general: No evidence Iran is arming Iraqis “ Talk about blatant distortions of truth. I guess if you are going to lie, the strategy is just brazenly put it right out there in big red letters under the theory people will accept it without thinking. I am amazed at the liberal myth and spin machine at work. Pace's comments are clear and precise. MSN NBC’s headline story is a complete distortion of what Pace said. What is clear is that Iranian made weapons that are killing US soldiers. Of course, the fact that at least 130 troops have been killed by them is of little concern to the left. If only one tenth the indignation and outrage was shown for our soldiers as the poor mistreated captives in US Custody by the Democrats, we might have a chance to win. MS NBC should be ashamed of themselves. The worst part about it is that they know exactly what they are doing, and the words are carefully crafted to cover themselves. MS NBC will argue that the essence of their story is that Pace is contradicting the administration’s assertion that the Iranian government at high levels is involved. But the article is constructed to have the reader draw an inference which is much broader. I wonder whether there is an integrity left in major news outlets. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56343Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:58:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56343abu kabbaI think the U.S. troops are been kills by U.S. made weapons, but Bush will not say that becouse people will want know that happen,and that will be hard for him to lie his way out,so instead they will use Iran for there failer in Iraq, and hope that the Amrican will buy it.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56381Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:20:02 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56381Pat, Hicksville, NYRevealing to the press how we know weapons from Iran are there by decree of Iraninan government would endanger the lives of those gathering information(spies)that are still in Iran. When at war, you cant reveal all sources of information. Despite demands for info from press, somethings must remain secret. We have become so cynical that some trust nothing coming from Admin. This is dangerous and destructive. It emboldens are enemies who ARE doing harm to our service personnel. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56385Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:22:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56385Patrick, Denver COPeter Pace should be commended for being sensible and forthright........however, like those before him who have dared speak any truths contradicting this administration's agenda, he too will soon be looking for a new job. I guess he didn't get the memo that said if his Decider in Cheif wants more war then so it is. We The People must fire these buffoons and quickly.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56409Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:43:45 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56409Jay, Kingsville, TX 783631) The "new" intellignece about Iranian arms is admittedly not really new. The timing suggests that it is part of an Administration campaign to a) intentioally goad Iran into a provocation that will "justify" and attack by the US; or b) to give a later false flag operation by the US seem more credibility; or c) to "pressure" a paranoid state into acting rationally -- which is itself an irrational act more likely to goad Iraninto into attacking us than into obeying the Bush Administration's commands. 2) It is neither proven that the weapons alleged to have been supplied are Iranian in origin or, if they are, that the Iranina goverment is providing them 3) If Iran is secretly providing weapons to Iraqi militia, they are doing no more than the US, the former USSR, Britain, China and many other countries have routinely done for decades. Violating another nation's national soverignty has been no deterrent to the US in supplying weapons, training, etc. dozens of situations over the past half century plus. 4) If the number of US troops who have been killed is an issue, why isn't the Bush Administration going after those who finance and arm the Sunnis, who have done far more dammage to our forces than the Shitte militias. Oh, that would be because W's buddies the Saudi's are arming them. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56417Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:58:22 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56417James Erickson Sr. Tucker, GeorgiaThe roll of United States armed forces in the middle east is not to serve the interest of American citizens, but rather to fight the enemies of Israel. It is true that Iran, Syria, Lebanon, et al pose a threat to the U.S., but only to the extent that U.S. troops serve as hatchet men for Israel. It is a sad fact that warm young American bodies are stopping bullets and shrapnel intended for Zionest Jews. This is an obvious and logical conclusion supported by facts largely withheld from the American Public. To wit: Through their domination, control, and ownership of American media of all type, many of our Jewish Citizens are able to conceal from the American Public facts that are detrimental to Jewish interest, but of great importance to the rest of us; it is also easy enough to manipulate the political direction and foreign policy of a country by falsifying reports of events, as has been done in the case of our war with Iraq. In addition, our elected officials know very well that a condition for holding public office is to maintain a good standing with the powerful media moguls, many of whom are fanatics who would resort to any treachery to make Israel master of the planet. Then there is the most powerful lobby in the world; the American Israel Political Affairs Committee (AIPAC). AIPAC is made up of dozens of Jewish interest political groups from around the country. These groups collectively control billions of dollars to finance campaign organizations of candidates seeking public office. It is a shameful fact that the overwhelming majority of today's politicians, including our President, would dance and jump through hoops to curry favor with AIPAC and the mass media. Of course there is more to be said, but anyone capable of connecting the dots should easily understand that Israel, through AIPAC, has issued marching orders to G.W.Bush that Iran is next, and then Syria, etc., untill Israel controls the entire mid-east and all of the oil, which is the ultimate long term goal of international Zionests. In a nutshell, the United States exists to serve the interest of Zionest Jews, and you, delusioned average American, count for nothing and know even less. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56419Wed, 14 Feb 2007 06:01:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56419Mongo Stamford Ct. USAMy fellow Americans! Our soldiers are dying out there at least we can do is support them! The President does need to come up with hard evidence to convince the world this time... no more CIA/FBI blunders in their intelligence. Real facts! A lot of them! Whether I agree or not about whats taking place in the middle east. I have two words. Mushroom cloud!! And I have a feeling its going to be Iran or a third world country who will make the bomb and use it first. Just give them more time and we will all find out soon enough. Whether President Bush is lying or not the realty is that Iran will produce a nuke and I will say for sure they will use it on the USA and Israel. If they were really serious about using their enrichment for energy than why hide everything. Think about it people! Why not tell the truth and ask the world for help to make it peacefull instead of deceiving so many countries all these years. So many of us are so brain washed from the liberal media in this country. Im just as guilty to fall into their trap too. IM NOT TAKING THE PRESIDENTS SIDE EITHER ITS JUST THE OBVIOUS JUST LOOK AT THE FACTS. Im not trying to say we should go to war with Iran....but if something doesnt get done now we will be paying a bigger price later. I will be damned if I sit back and watch my childrens future be abliviated because we (America) hesitated. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56425Wed, 14 Feb 2007 06:07:32 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56425William, Newnan, GATo those who defend Bush because they think "he has made the USA safer by preventing terrorist attacks on US soil": The long term effect of Bush's actions are yet to be seen. My guess, which is based on my world travels, is that in another ten years or so, the repercussions of our actions will be such hatred against the USA, that terrorist actions on US soil will come from new terrorist groups from many continents. Ironically, whatever administration happens to be in power at the time will get blamed, not Bush.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56441Wed, 14 Feb 2007 06:55:10 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56441James Hedman; Byron, GA The current administration has based all its war activities on lies. I think they will be called on the Iran issue before Bush and Cheney can cause further chaos in the world. I aggree with the Dems: lets try a little negotiating and realistically assess the threat. Also lets redeploy our troops to fight the war on terror rather than the civil war in Iraq which has our troops in harm's way for a lost cause.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56451Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:23:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56451Paolo, Dubai (UAE)I have lived long time in Middle East, though Italian, I participated in a mix nationality group supporting US troops stationed in Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War, I came to love those chaps and I believe that using the "support for our troops" excuse to justify continuing in a botched enterprise is at least sickening. Let's look at the facts, the invasion of Iraq was justified as integral part of the war on terror right after the 9/11; 99% of the terrorist was Saudi, however Bush has too much personal business with the Saudi Royal family to event think of directing his attention toward Saudi. I have lived and travelled in the region for more than 25 years, what democracy in Middle East?! Let's not fool ourselves and the good US soldiers, the so called US friendly states Saudi, Jordan, Egypt are everything but democracies, but since they fit the administration they are tolerated. Even Libya is now tolerated simply because one day some smart folk said we renounce terrorism, in the mean time the dissident still languish in jail. In Europe we all had our share of terrorism IRA, Red Brigades, Black September and more, I would never forget when the Red Brigades blew the Bologna railway station during rush hour. However the Brits didnt invade Northern Ireland I recall... Saddam was bad guy (Bush Say, he tried to kill my father), so if this is the unit of measurement we should probably invade half of the world nations. So what is it about this war on terror? They are winning (the terrorist) and you know why? European needs now a visa to come to the US, Middle East Investors pull out their capitals from the US at the expenses of the American people, we cannot bring a bottle of water onto a plane, we get scared if someone looks like an Arab, etc. The end results of this is "divide at impera" (split them and rule them), The Bush administration has succeded under the pretext of protecting the American people from something that is there (we dont know what, where and when...but is there), to isolate them from the international community thus undermining the only effective weapons again these thugs, which is: we will not change our way of life no matter what, we will not allow "them" to open undermine our basic democratic values. Guantanamo, enemy combatants, undeclared war that give the Bushy war power in time of peace, this is all BS, it wont have any effect other than strengthen the "thugs". Coalition of the willings? What is this BS, guys we went in, we did a mess now "friends" come in too and help us out, however "friend" you would need a visa to come to the US. But we are friends. Then there is a surprise if some of the European starts questioning the motives of this unsuccessful enterprise, are we achieving anything? Where is Binladen, gosh the chap muct be really smart, he's got all the Nato behind him and yet where is he? In the end, let's cut the chase, all out war wont work, intelligent "intelligence" will, we have some experience it will; putting all the good guys in jail and leaving all the bad guys out is not the way to make a country safe. In more than 25 years in Middle East I never had a single problem because I'm western, I have been all over the region and yet no problem at all. With regard to the administration currently playing the trumpet on Italy wanting to pull out of Iraq, but staying into Afganistan, I would simply comment to those who served during the Vietnam time in the Texas Air National Guard, that if a country experience over a century two WW with few millions dead, we think twice before going to war and wanna make dam sure if for a common and purposeful reason, not to replenish Halliburton packets. And by the way, since I served (volonteered) in Lebanon in 1982/1983 with the Italian army, again a lot of BS has been circulated, I was there when the US marines where blown up and believe me since Israel invaded lebanon in 1982, the Hezbollah wehere just beginning to form; however when you side with a party that slaughtered almost a 1000 Palestinian civilians in two refugee camp (the Christian Militia) you bet someone is going to get pissed off. I believe is time to wake up, let's get these incompetent back to where they come and be serious about combatting terrorism.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56454Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:30:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56454Ebi BijariLet’s do the math. Hard to believe but oil is old news, especially for U.S. which thinks decades ahead. Iran is rich in Uranium. China, India similar countries need lots of it for their power plants. That means $$$ and lots of it. Iran is heading to be the big supplier and we don't like that. We're investing innocent lives and almost a trillion dollars. Wait a minute......think of the return. So, we occupy Afghanistan (east of Iran) Then we occupy Iraq (west of Iran) Now, we have arrived (Iran) All we had to do is DECEIVE. I am saddened to see what others do not see http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56482Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:17:01 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56482Daniel Roman, Orlando, FloridaBetter Review Blogs Again! How Counterproductive. What is, IS. What was, WAS. We confirm confusion, anxiety, fear, anger, disappointments. Let's move Foward! Impeaching Bush & Cheney is just a Dream. Is it feasible to discharge many politicians, who supported the Iraqi mistake, lead by the Decider. (Includes members of Congress, Senate and House.) Reality? It's a Chess game. We're only the pawns. A Sensible Solution is prepare for election 2008. It's time to Change. Hillary & Bill will do Best! They did it before and they can do it.. Again! If antagnostics want games, America can play Clever! http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56483Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:19:36 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56483Uyi PreciousThe Idea of Iran openly maintaining a supply line to iraqi insurgent is absurd. Are they that daft ? No. This is not a make up but a set up by a third party state, trying to undermine the Iranian hegemony to the Middle East Power balance. They are setting Iran up. The Bush admin seem to have no intelligence to question alternative source of interference in the iraqi debacle. Saudi Arabia is an example trying to set Iran up. Bush and Co should stop issuing self serving arguments.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56490Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:52:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56490paul triplettWe stand back and do nothing, and we will be in it. We do something and we'll be in it. The last 20 yrs of history should tell all of us, IRAN wants war! They however want us to start it. Then play on the worlds simpathy. This war is is spoke of in ancient scriptures. I don't like it, as most of you don't. It will eventually happen tho. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56491Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:09:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56491John ElderEven the joint chief of staff contradicted the phony prersentation. Somebody mentioned Daily Telegraph's article on some sniper guns alledgedly provided by Iran and captured by the US forces. If there were such guns captured why weren't they in the presentation ? Daily Telegraph is a neocon outlet and part of the media that is itching for a new war. It is full of disinformation and a mouthpiece of the neocons.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56499Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:43:38 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56499Dan & Denise Roman, Orlando, Florida(Iran? Iraq? Pakistan? Lebanon? Syria? Turkey? Korea?) If WE point a finger, three point back at the Pointer. We'd Better Review Blogs Again! How Counterproductive. What is IS! What was WAS! We're confirming Confusion.. Anxiety, Fear, Anger and Disappointments. Move Foward! Impeaching Bush & Cheney is nothing more than a Dream. Is it feasible to discharge many politicians, who also supported the Iraq mistakes, lead by our Wild Decider? (That includes members of Congress, Senate and House.) Reality? It's a Chess Game and we're only small Pawns. A Sensible Solution is preparing for election Day '08. It's time for a Change. Hillary and Bill will DO Best! They did it Before.. and They can DO it Again! And if? antagnostics want Chess, America can play very Clever! http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56500Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:57:35 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56500Sam Heckman AZGee, here we go again, another country, another war, another God know's how many billon's of our hard earned money. The funny part is what ever happened to Osoma. He was the one responsable for 9/11. Did we just give up on him?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56502Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:03:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56502Brandon, Fremont, CaliforniaThe unfortunate thing about what's going on is the brainwashing of the people in the military into believing that this is a just cause. You can't speak out against the war, nor can you do anything to stop from fighting. Those that have were put in public display and and tried for missing movements, ect.. People in America don't understand unity, or sacrifice. Many American's on a day to day basis worries about attack, many American's in their day to day lives don't worry about the next time you get to see your family, many American's in their day to day lives knows of true sacrifice, or hardship. Most American's believe the hardest thing to do is to go outside with your children and play because they are too tired from work or have too many of their own problem's. No one except a few radicals take some time out of their day to speak out publicly about the war, needless to say do things such as protest. The Dixie Chicks are a prime example of the backwards thinking this country is going through. Unfortunatley, we have not given any country that is financing or helping these terrorists a chance to have it backfire on themselves. The case against North Korea. The only thing that keeps us on our toes with them and consistently saying that we will not invade is China. Our government believes that the Middle East isn't capable of defending themselves and such has invaded numerous times. Seemingly though, this current administration and most of our government is so tied up in stocks, bonds, companies, royalties, and such that they won't stop until they are satisfied. A couple of thing's to keep this country sound: 1) Make it against the law for any government official to have any kind of unproffessional relationship with any company, firm or so forth, that have any corrolation with companies that produce weapons or military logistical supplies. 2) Make it against the law for any law maker or Armed Services Committee man/woman to make any money above a minimum cap of what they are to receive only from their government paycheck's. 3) Make it against the law for any government official to make or recieve payments from friends, family, or other relatives using their names to purchase accounts for them. 4) Increase the amount of outside investigation teams that would conduct annual audit of the financial situations of any high ranking government official's on a random basis to ensure that money they earn is clearly accessible to the American public. 5) Adding an amendment to the Consitution that stipulates such audits and searches legal due to the greater interest of security, stability, and anti corruption within the government. 6) Adding an amendment to the Consitution which stipulates better management of government resources and complete copies of all government transactions, including under the radar type deals that are kept undocumented making those who initiate them more liable and subject to the American people. 7) Creating a law in which the American people would have the opportunity to vote the course of action against those that violate the law, this would be a trial by peers, seeing as though government officials are only publiic citizens instead of private. 8) Having a revision of the checks and balances and all laws and memo's, ect., that involve relate to this matter. I believe these things would help to create a more fair and balanced government. One that is actually elected by the people and is held more liable for their actions.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56503Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:16:40 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56503BillYup, more lies from the same group of tried and true liars. "Fool me once, shame on me" ... fall for this crock again?? ... it's pathetic!!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/13/54929.aspx#56516Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:50:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:56516Aaron JohnsonIsrael, United States, Britian and all those who follow there steps, oh what hypocrites you have become. Only the stupid believe otherwise.