A vote of ‘Si' or ‘No’ in Venezuela

bill paser clearwater fl — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:10:02 GMT

President Chavez had the opportunity to become the savior of the N & S American Contenent, but has become moronic as the President of Uran. < spelled right..

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Joe, Mpls — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:16:30 GMT

He is a dictator. He is using his power, like most people in power, to gain wealth. He is nothing more than a thug. He stands there and chants his poop from his mouth that his country hates the US yet look at our baseball teams and see how many of them are from there and how much money is being sent back there to support him. He should shut up and just get on with life. The US doesn't want to invade him any more than it wants to invade California. Why? He has no idas what Democracy is as does the rest of the countries south of the US border. He has oil, we need, and is using that against us. Why don't we just go to International boundries of the Gulf and if there is oil there, drill it and bring it home? Do what we can to cut him off. We don't need military to do take him down. Also, we need to cut China out of the picture for him as well. He is getting a weapons factory from Russia and workers from Iran. Maybe he might want to rethink that. Most of South America is Christian and Iran is Muslim. They don't like non-muslim people and it will create a problem there. I gurantee it. Iran is just using them to get on to the US. Agrivate us and see what is done.
If we want to hurt countries like this then why not send their people that are here, as 'guest workers' back there and let them deal with it? Then they would have less money.

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A Leal, Reno, Nevada — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:34:06 GMT

All the signs of a demented tyrant, just like his mentor, Fidel

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Elijah — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:38:08 GMT

Did we get to view the provisions of the Patriot Act before it was ratified? Let's worry about securing democracy in out own country before we try meddling with another oil rich nation.

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Allen R, American Fork, UT — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:40:15 GMT

I lived in Venezuela for a couple of years in the early 80's and found the Venezuelan people to be very warm and engaging. Obviously I am viewing these current events from a distance and through the lense of our own National Media, but if Chavez is maneuvering to create a position of power for himself, it will be very difficult for the people to go back once the laws and his base of support is in place. If he is successful tomorrow, there will be more serious changes to come. If the Venezuelan people choose to turn back the clock at some point, it will require a revolution. I understand that Chavez is anti-US and that has been the popular thing to be for some time now. I, for one, am proud to be a US Citizen, and still there is a part of me that cares about what happens to those wonderful people in Venezuela. I wish them the best of luck.

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Nora, Panama — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:52:36 GMT

Its sad when people fall into this kind of "trap"... How many revolutionary dictators started out saying they were going to help the people....looking back how many can we say actually did help?!

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Ana Maria, Orlando Florida — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:00:27 GMT

How can it ever be a fair vote if he has the power to control and vote for himself using names and id# of Venezuelans that have never been register to vote nor have been in Venezuela in the last 17 years like me or even count votes in his favor of Venezuelans than have been dead for more than 5 years like my gradparents and other people i know. No matter what he is in control and has the power to winn even if he doesnt.

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Gary L. Hern — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:01:05 GMT

Hugo Chavez, has a dream - and dreams somtimes fall
short of reallity. I do not believe Chavez, can stay
in office for long. Spain is tired of him, Columbia,
is tired of him, USA, is tired of him and Venezuela
voters are not going for the old dictator trap. The red party will survive, the blue party knows they can
take the reign and put the oil economy to work for all
citizens not just who Hugo says - I'll take care of my
supporters. In fact he doesn't really take care of
therm. 2-Billion dollars worth of defense? For what
just to buy the military? The real answer is do not to over promise and under produce. It is to produce and under promise.

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Eva Nemeth, Millis MA — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:09:17 GMT

You are correct in noting that the Blue party backers are mostly of European descent. Many Europeans arrived in Venezuela, penniless but eager to forge a better living. They left Europe due to either persecution, dictatorship or communism. Do you blame them for defending what is left of Democracy in Venezuela? My parents and I worked very hard while living in Venezuela. Being poor was no obstacle in our pursuit to achieve a middle class status. Do you blame us for resenting the expropriations of our hard-earned properties? Many of our relatives, myself included had to leave, foreseeing that the current leadership would probably turn into the same type of government we escaped from. On the other hand, we also have middle class friends, of mixed descent, who at first, like many other people, believed that Chavez would really be the answer. Nowadays, few of our friends still follow him. The Red party also has wealthy backers, who have amassed fortunes during the last decade, through questionable means. Class division is merely part of the problem in Venezuela. Chavez has also succeeded in introducing racial hatred, which is rather ironic, considering that his ex-wife is of European descent...

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Aryn - Anchorage, AK — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:12:38 GMT

I have just recently returned from an eight month stay in Venezuela. I can honestly say that the political process in that country is extremely corrupt.
Chavez imports his voters from the lowest slums of Caracas and surrounding cities. He pays them in food and beer and uses them to flesh out the crowds at his red party rallies. The people who agree to this make a pittance in wage and are barely able to support their families. Chavez preys on their poverty in order to keep himself in office.
During the 2004 referendum, Chavez recorded the names and information of everyone who voted against him. Using this information, he systematically fired dissidents from all government run positions. These positions included engineers in oil companies, electric companies, state office officials, etc. Many of the taxi drivers in the cities are ex-petroleum engineers who have been black listed and are unable to secure positions because of their vote. He also promised people jobs if they would convert to the red party and work to convince their friends and families to do same. What could people do? In most cases, the need for food on the table was greater than the need to uphold political beliefs.
The major, government-run oil company, PDVSA, mandates that its employees partictipate in all red party rallies. It takes roll at these events and fires those who refuse. In the 2006 presidential election, PDVSA quit developing oil fields 3 months in advance of elections and used its company resources and employees to work on the Chavez campaign, regardless of their political leanings. All employees were required to participate in order to retain their jobs. Employees were also required to vote for Chavez. It is through these methods that Chavez is still in office.
Those who are brave enough to remian blue party members are closely watched by the Chavez administration. Any effort on the part of these people to secure visas, business licenses, and jobs is thwarted by the pro-Chavez government..
Finally, in January, Chavez evicted any nay-sayers that still existed in parliament. He has padded his seat with supporters that are merely following this somewhat psychotic leader in an effort to line their own pockets.
The blue party may win the vote against Chavez despite his trickery in the placement of the work day referendum etc. But we will never hear of the real tallies. Chavez will ensure that the red party is successful even if they only receive a single vote. He will simply take over as he has done before. Hugo Chavez preys on the weaknesses of his people. He is re-elected time and again through fear and corruption. I pity my friends that I have left behind in Venezuela. Their hands are tied and, until someone rids the country of this corrupt and evil political leader, Venezuelans will have to watch their beloved country fall rapidly in chaos and ruin.

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Tony Brown North Vancouver, BC. Canada — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:12:52 GMT

I find it difficult to imagine the furror over the Change of the constitution Of Venezuela to drop the time limits of the # of terms a President can run for election. I'm sure if the USA enjoyed Chavez as leader, there would be little said. Many countries do not limit the # of terms of office..Canada,Mexico,Great Britain, France to name a few, that area Demaucracies. Like usuall the USA is minding somebody elses business..

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bill los angeles ca. — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:14:44 GMT

chaves just want to be the king , just like castro, he is going to ruin another country just like fildel did.socialism and communism dont work no future just like in cuba.

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Paul Whelton — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:21:13 GMT

Elijah, In case you haven't noticed, the United States is a Representative Democracy. We elect people to look over and approve law changes such as the Patriot Act. It was passed by our elected reps & Senators. It was renewed for 6 additional months by a majority Democrat Congress. I would assume that your lack of basic knowledge of the political system of our country is the result of at least 12 years of barren public school education. It is no surprise that you equate the U.S. with another run of the mill tin horn dictator such as Chavez. Try reading about thugs like Chavez from the last half of the 20th Century. Stalin, Mao, Castro, etc. They chalked up a combined total of 100 plus million people slaughtered mostly because they didn't agree with these dictators.
Given the opportunity, odds are that Chavez will end up just like the communist killers from the 20th Century. Dictators are a separate species, they all eventually behave in the same manner; usurpation of all power, suppression of dissent, persecution of rivals and eventually elimination of all resistance to their continued power by violence. Keep an eye on your boy Ceasar he won't disappoint!!

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bill stephenson vrb fl. — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:25:05 GMT

his own people will take this power crazed nut out.

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Jon Edwards, Piura, Peru — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:28:08 GMT

It will be interesting to see what happens with the vote this Sunday. But, I have a strong feeling that no matter how the vote goes Chavez will make sure he stays in charge, by the ballot box or by force.
He rules by fear, and he not only wants to be preseident of Venezuela, but of all of S. America.
His two puppets in Bolivia and Ecuador are just like him. I fell sorry for the people who live under these conditions.
Nothing will change, the poor will stay poor and Chavez will line his pockets with money for him and his entitled few.

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Ian — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:44:09 GMT

GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!

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Tom Kringlen, Oelwein,IA — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:44:56 GMT

Considering the U.S. history of adventurism and exploitation in Central and South America it is no surprise we aren't loved down there. Castro and Chavez are in power and have been because the citizxens elect them.

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Alejandro — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:51:26 GMT

JOE dont be close mind u said that we dont know what democracy is, let me tel u what we do know what that is but is sorry to said but is the true 70% of our poblation is poor so he give 100 dollars a month to those and they love him they wont care just for the fact that he is putting food on their table im from there and it hurts to see whats going on there but is nothing i can do thats why i flea long time ago so dont be close mind and by the way the mayor reserve of oil in the world is right here on your country U.S.A

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Tony Autobee, Holdrege, Ne — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:52:57 GMT

I really think human freedom will prevail. However, first the people have to believe in what thay can do to change things. If Chavez get his way the people will lose their ability to think for themselves. So I hope they will use the power they have now to set a future best for them.

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laurie morris Flagstaff AZ — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:53:36 GMT

Beware of opinion generated by oil corporate types who paint Hugo as a threat to their hegemony. Indigenous people poise themselves at the eve of the new 500 year cycle and Hugo want to be there for the new reality of people taking back their rightful power in their own lands and out of the Euro-american corporate handa. I look forward to the strugglel.

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Martha Martinez 615 NW Oleander St apt 101 Stuart, Fl 34994 — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:57:37 GMT

It wiould be the most terrible thing thah could happen to South America, if Chavez should get the victory to keep the power. Power that he will use only to destroy the democratic govertments that S America has.

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Martha Martinez 615 NW Oleander St apt 101 Stuart, Fl 34994 — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:59:26 GMT

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Bruce Deile — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:00:17 GMT

Aryn from Anchorage, Alaska--criticizing Chavez--evades how Chavez offered to help Alaska Native villages with affordable oil for heating their homes. Has Aryn read the Anchorage Daily News lately, and all the Alaska politicians under investigation for oil corruption? See links and more detail at my site: www.xanga.com/azorka (or search Anchorage Daily News for Ted Stevens, et al.).

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Josh P, Las Vegas, NV — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:00:32 GMT

Elijah:
You may not have viewed the provisions in the Patriot Act, but your representatives in congress had that opportunity. That is what a representative democracy does. And where in the article does it mention that we are meddling with the election?
Anyway, this is a classic move of a totalitarian: Bribe to win the hearts of the masses (share of oil profits/"communal property"/shortened work-day with same pay) all the while tricking them into giving you full power.

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Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:01:28 GMT

How many children has Chavez killed by direct orders to his army? ZERO. How many has Bush killed? THOUSANDS. The United States is the greatest threat to PEACE on this earth. All you haters do yourself a favor and get your own country in order before you criticize someone elses.

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Jorge, Miami, Florida — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:04:44 GMT

You all talk like if these people really have any choice to do anything.. No matter what Chavez is going to get what he wants, cause he runs the country....

No one will have a real choice in the end...

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igg — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:11:51 GMT

the guy gets on my nerves he is just onother fidel dont the venezuelans get it.

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Carmen Castro, Phoenix, Arizona — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:12:07 GMT

Mr. Brown - not all of the countries you listed have unlimited terms. I did not see any country meddling in this article and view it as the opinion of an independent writer. Some view opinions as meddling and look at what is happening in Sudan with no response from the world. What a tragedy and with no one to step up and do something about it. We here of the horrific things that are happening to the Venezuelen people, but yet when do we react? Do we wait until hundreds of lives have to be lost.

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Doug Harvey — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:14:44 GMT

Chavez is much less dangerous than Bush and Cheney and more democratic. Poor people there have a better chance of a leg up than they do here. Many of the above commentators are either badly deceived or full of it.

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Paul, Miami. Florida — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:16:00 GMT

Hugo Chavez is an uncivilized poor excuse of human skin that deserves to be ousted, tried for treason and publicly executed. What as joke he is. He's not worth the air spent talking about him. May he fade from the world.

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J Frisby, Henderson, NV — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:16:53 GMT

I'm sick of you who continue to blaim the US for every trouble in the world or for not minding our own business. Here we have another little Hitler in the making. Over the next decade he will turn all of South America into a personel hell. If it were not impossible to do so, I would vote for the US to close it borders and let the rest of you rot. We have the intelligence to rid ourselves of our oil dependency and the sooner the better we'll be for doing so. We can also feed ourselves many times over while the rest of the world starves. Chavez, Castro, the Imams and Mullahs can all go to hell with you.

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J,A.Laukaitis Erie Pa. — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:29:44 GMT

Why is it when someone tries to help the poorer people he is terribly critized? He is investing his oil profits in the people of Venezuela. He has imported doctors, dentist, built schools and Universities for the average Venezuelan. Even his worst critics in Venezuela do not accuse him of enriching himself. The press in this country is controlled by wealthy individuals, who cannot see wasting oil profits on the indigent peoples. Chavez appears to be a true christian. It is time that all the people of Venezuela benefit from the natural resources of their country. Exxon Mobil will live paying a little more to drill in Venezuela.

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Hugo Chavezdesgraciado Maracaibo Venezuela — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:32:49 GMT

Tony Brown North Vancouver, BC. Canada, you are the tipical moronic person that blames th U.S.A for everything that happens in the world. Did you even bother reading any of the articles. Their own people, Venezuelans themselves do not want this idiot Chavez to have control. Hugo wants to become a Dictator. Venezuelans do not want him to.

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J,A.Laukaitis Erie Pa. — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:33:28 GMT

Why would someone feel sorry for people whoa are finally getting a share of their countries natural resources?

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Bri LA CA — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:37:17 GMT

Tony Brown North Vancouver, BC. Canada obviously went to the same school that Elijah went to. Both lecture the USA about democracy when neither of them have any idea what they are talking about.

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J,A.Laukaitis Erie Pa. — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:37:27 GMT

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P. Pannick, Milwaukee, WI — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:38:59 GMT

It's a given that Chavez is an absolute idiot. Having said that, what are we to think of the Venezuelan people if they vote that power hungry miscreant back in office? Seriously! Think about it... As much as I feel for the Venezuelan people having to live under the dictatorship of weak, whining attention seeker, we have to hope that the Venezuelan people will take matters into their own hands. Get to the polls and VOTE CHAVEZ OUT. If this doesn't work, assassinate the little troll.

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Peter, South of BC — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:40:51 GMT

Tony Brown,
Spoken like a true Socialist. Read Aryn's post to get a feel of what is going on and if you think that is what is going on in the counties you just named. Well maybe Mexico. Chavez is a dirty as they come.

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Darrel In Edinboro, PA — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:50:19 GMT

To John Edwards, Peru:

Kinda sounds like GWB, don'tcha think? I can't wait to see what trumped-up reason GWB will have to execute his "decree" and delay/eliminate elections next year.

Birds of a feather.......

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A voter for the No — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:51:48 GMT

As a wealthy Venezuelan coming from blue collar beginnings, I can say that Chavez has already broken every promise he made. Tony Brown: In the countries you mention there's a clear division of powers. Not here. Also, the government pays the equivalent of $100 for going to the rallies to the poor fellows who don't have an alternative ($100 oil barrels go a long way toward maintaining him in power!). The people who work for the government MUST go to those rallies or they lose their jobs. Finding a passport for your children means bribing public functionaries or you don't get it. After 40 years of democracy we're being taken to be another Cuba, and if the "Si" wins, we'll be one step closer to that lofty goal.

To the people who wrote thinking that other countries care, think again. Carter foundation was here during the referendum to revoke him from power, and in spite of the many irregularities, nothing was even said. For Sunday's elections no international observers are invited (guess why!) They want to close the only independent TV news station (and they will if they win on Sunday)

The change is coming from within. Many of Chavez followers are voting No, but with an electoral institution completely controlled by the government, that probably won't matter either.

The sad part is that some poor people still believe in him, but those are the ones who don't have the option to leave if things come to worse.

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Reynolds Jones -- Schenectady NY — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:56:37 GMT

To the insulting gentle-being above -- Mr Whelton --

I suggest that rather than insulting other people for their views, you take some time to do some research -- you can start with Naomi Wolf's new book "The End of America: Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot." Its on several bestseller's lists and its flying off the shelves.

There is no sacred canopy covering representative democracies -- a number have become fascist or absolute states in the last hundred years -- open societies changed to closed -- through clever political maneuvering and manipulation of the press and major media. We are just as much in danger now as others have been in the past -- and while I sincerely hope we manage to resist, we too may fall.

Oh, I forget -- that's all factual material -- I'm sorry, it is true, as Stephen Colbert says, that facts have an uncomfortably liberal bias.

Regards

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Joseph Phelps, Tampa, Florida — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:57:06 GMT

If only the citizens of our great nation knew how many democratically elected rulers we have overthrown and innocent people slaughtered in the name of the US. Such a shame that the people are so uninformed that they believe their government, no matter what, ESPECIALLY the current Fascists in power. Maybe some of you pseudo-patriots aren't aware, but the US has tried, on numerous occasions, to overthrow Chavez. Chavez doesn't hate the US, just the current murderous, corrupt, incompetent administration. Witness Hurricane Katrina. Didn't that bad, evil Chavez send millions of barrels of oil to help the victims, while president moron fiddled? Please get your facts straight before you sound off.

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DeLayna, Salt Lake City, Utah — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:59:30 GMT

I was in Venezuela during the 2004 revolution. Chavez is corrupt: he obtained and maintains his power through corrupt means. The first time he came into power was by force, the following election was a sham (since it was done after he was already in power), the "coup" against him was a set up. He is friends and models his actions after Fidel Castro: what more evidence is needed to show this man is corrupt and power hungry? He maintains his power by exploiting the week, like all dictators do. I don't understand or see all that goes on, but what is visible seems to point to the same conclusion: Hugo Chavez is bad news.
I too loved my experience in Venezuala, especially my time getting to know some of the people. It hurts to think they are being subjected to this mans evil plans.

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Pedro Coma — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:07:42 GMT

Tony from Canada is very wrong; Mexico does not have unlimited terms in office, they clearly deliniate their terms with "..no re-eleccion" for the president's office.

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Barb Field, Holland Michigan — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:09:10 GMT

With regards to the hostage situation in Colombia. President Chavez is equivelent to a 5 year old boy playing in a sandbox, when he doesn't get his away he takes his toys and has a tantrum. The King of Spain said something many people would like to say to Chavez: "why don't you shut-up".

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Kathryn Saipan Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:09:18 GMT

Hello Chavez is a maniac. Why is it that Venezuela has
never been able to stabilize? The military never supports democracy and socialists never pave the streets with gold, the right wing is too busy attempting to imitate superpowers. People there need to unify and to set their priorities. I hope Chavez is voted out.

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D Brooks — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:21:18 GMT

Damned if you do - damned if you don't. No matter the form of government, be it a Republic (USA), Democracy, Socialism, Fascism, Corporatism OR Communism -to mention a few- ALL fail.
Humanity is fatally flawed.

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Inez Deborah Emilia Altar, Assacaias, Santarem, Portugal — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:22:24 GMT

No-one of course improves with guaranteed unlimited power in the long run. Yet there are reasons for which Hugo Chaves deserves a "Si", perhaps more than many other men. Since after the days of Bolivar, he is perhaps one of the first who can be truly stated to be "Un Presidente de Pueblo", "A President of the People" something which should make ALL Venezuelans feel truly proud that finally they have vindicated the intrinsic justice and nobility of the Venezuelan nation, in conceding his place to an outstanding man from the original people of Venezuela, who has genuinely and uniquely sought to share Venzuela's oil wealth with each and every one of its many sons and daughters. It will be a symbol of the triumph of reason, dignity and humanity over tragic shadows that lie in the past and of the attainment of political maturity of a distinguished people of the South Americas, if whether or not this referendum might err in its ultimate conclusion, that this will be addressed via non-coercive, mutually respectful and honourable political interplay with the ultimate goal of serving and mirroring in as far as possible the sovereign will of the people of Venezuela, and that in such a context no error need yet be the final word. Hugo Chavez is moreover one of the galaxy of truly South American people's presidents allowed to arise after the easing of tensions and tacit conflict which during the past twentieth century victimized the nations of this great continent. So the USA does not score top on popularity ranking - right? Well, maybe that could have been different had the USA really early on and in time in addition to the caring and devoted members of Point Four, invested more in effectively raising the standard of living of South Americans at large to levels which ensure human survival,health, and at least minimum comfort, instead of a close to exclusive concentration on economic and geopolitical goals, which will have facilitated the creation of an exploitatory image. Moreover as by and large Christian, US people might occasionally take the attitude that it is not a compulsory obligation to view all nearer or further neighbours as some formof extensions - after all it does say in one of the Ten Commandments "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour' s house, nor his wife, nor his servants, nor his oxen, nor his donkeys, nor anything else that is of thy neighbour." And even speaking in the voice of pragmatism, sincere mutual respect, care, and confidence can work wonders which no maneouvers or coercions ever can. Vide: Europe and power games - 1903 - 1945, World War I and World War II, just for example - and the comparative mutual tolerance of much of today's Europe. As to El Comandante, Fidel Castro, he in his turn is not exactly the USA's top-ranking popularity star, but perhaps if one restricts oneself to an objective statistical analysis he did bring about a palpable improvement in living standards and law and order for the Cuban nation as a whole, as compared to Baptista who no-one can deny was anything but transparent in his economic affairs - specially as today internationally lip-service must be paid to respect for all States and the well-being of all Humanity. Moreover, vis-a-vis individuals Cuba may yet live up to standards brazenly ignored by other States. Objectivity must remain our golden rule, and "Si" to Hugo Chavez may serve his people better than a "No" - theirs must be the choice, a viable known stability always is advantageous. Inez Deborah Emilia Altar

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Jennifer Lee, Denver, CO — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:24:20 GMT

I lived in Venezuela for three years during the 90's, prior to Chavez. I remember well the distinct separation of the rich from the poor. Under this "democracy", the prices of basic foods rose so quickly that the paycheck had to be spent immediately when you recieved it because it would only buy half as much food at the end of the week. This is the beautiful world that the poor lived through under the democratically elected Carlos Andres Perez. If my memory serves me correctly, inflation of this sort is what helped fuel the rise of Nazism.

The vast majority of the the Venezuelans did not benefit in much at all from their previously elected presidents. Why do you think that Chavez has the support that he does? Because democracy and capitalism did not bring benefits to 90% of the people. The poor reached for something they hoped would be better. Even my rich friends lamented that the best years in Venezuela were under a military dictatorship - that is when they said all the highways were constructed and great public works completed. I certainly sympathize with the poor searching for a way out, even if it looks like Chavez. To them, he is much better than what they had.

On a more positive note, the Venezuelans are the most wonderful, lovely, giving, kind, and fun-loving people. I only wish them the best through this difficult time.

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Glenn Daniels, Minnesota — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:29:19 GMT

There is a storm coming and we had best get prepared. Putin is working Russia back with him as its supreme ruler. Putin backed Iran. Iran backs Chevez. And then there is China playing the same game with Japan that Japan played with the USA just prior to WWII. A wait and see attitude is what put the USA on a recovery and war fast-track 65 years ago.

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Ruben Vasquez — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:29:23 GMT

I flee my country 18 years agoe this country was so corrupted that I didn't have not choice but to live my country to search for better future in other country. Int'l sources are saying thaat this guy is spending the oil revenue in the people something that in the pass you only would dream as a venezuelan from the barrio I really appreciated what he's doing for my people. this guy look to me like a real leader yeat acting like a third world kind of person but you never judge a book by his cover. I'm not from over here neither from over there because of the time that I already spend in this country so I appreciate the opinion of those that only speak because they want to let run their emotion but the fact is that you have to be in this people shoes to understand their situation so que viva el Si oh by the way my wife goes with the blue that may be because of her descendant from Europe.

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O. Jopnes — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:29:43 GMT

People like "Elijah" above are complete morons. There is about as much similarity between the US an Chavez's little domain as there is between a mouse and an elephant. We need to use whatever means we can in our country to get to those who would destroy American lives and prosecute them. "Elijah" may not like that concept, but for the rest of us it appears a rational proposition the stop the murdering Muslim savages from killing more innocent people.

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lafedur — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:30:15 GMT

I don't see much difference between Hugo Chavez and the big companies and the supreme court who flouted the law to keep "Judge" W. Bush as the president. Chavez is using the oil money to please the poor and the illeterates. Similarly, we have FOX news who agrees and supports every misdeed by "Judge" Bush the president. Tyrany comes in many ways. Many reporters who simply said the negative things about "Judge Bush was permanently silenced. "Presidents" Bush and Chavez are both operating the same way. Two of them will be gone soon.

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David, Princeton, NJ — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:32:34 GMT

To Tony Brown North Vancouver, BC. Canada. Please make sure you check your facts. Mexico does not allow for re-election at all (not even 1 time). A Dictator called Mr. Diaz stayed in power in Mexico for decades until he was overthrown by a revolution in 1910 that lasted 21 years, caused the country to loose over 25% of its population and resulted in the PRI party taking over the country for the next 60 years. I hope this does not happen to Venezuela thaks to the clown that is currently in power.

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DH Illinois — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:38:05 GMT

I really hope everyone is paying attention not only to what Chavez is doing but, knowing who he is, who has supported him from our country both political and celebrity. Most Americans would vote against this guy if they had the chance so let's now vote against our own politicians which have supported him in the past. As well we should boycott anything made by those celebrities that have supported and visited him unabashedly. I'm not going to list them, you know who some of them are. The reason I won't list them is the fact that you should not trust all the information in a blog. You should do the research that way you know that when you do something about it you know you aren't misinformed and that can get ugly.

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Robert Curry, Hazel Green Al — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:42:17 GMT

Tony Brown, BC Canada, had to think pretty shallow to able to take a shot at the US. He apparently didnt read any of the other submittals detailing the state of Venszuela before and after this election.

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Mateo, Berlin, Germany — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:46:08 GMT

What makes one a dictator? One who dictates! But not as a lecturer or teacher. Their dictates are disguished commands to be obeyed and obeyed blindly without question. For such dictates to be obeyed they must be backed up with power, wealth, favors or influence. Why, because these dictates are like little white lies not too obviously immoral or unethical but all designed to keep the dictator and his authority and wealth hungry henchmen powerfully in charge. A dictator is one addicted to power and will do anything to remain in power. It's regime uses deceitful half-truths and slogans that appeal to people's basic emotions including religion to keep them in check. If necessary, there is also the hand outs to the poor and the masses to gain (buy) their loyalty. When all else fails, there is always the secrecy in the name of national security, violence, jails or disappearances. These are usually aimed at the intellectuals who know better accused of knowing better than the dictator that absolute power corrupts absolutely. In a dictatorship, religious, military or led by former military leaders, the entire country eventually end up like an addict undergoing an addiction withdrawal.
I hope the intellectuals of Venezuela read up on the histories of countries that have undergone dictatorships so that they can better understand where their country is headed.

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Larry De Mayo, Windsor, New York — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:47:07 GMT

Mr. Brown, I fail to see how a discussion about a vote to possibly make changes to Venezula's constitution has much to do with the United States. So why do you say that once again the United States is minding somebody else's business? This is a matter of great concern to the people of Venezula and not merely a platform for you to spout your dislike for the United States.

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human, earth — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:51:51 GMT

omg youre all ignorant and illiterate go study history no more imperialist,racist,colonial powers. for human kinds sake

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Tony — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:52:59 GMT

Paul Whelton, fantastic response! It says it all--if only the poor of Venezuela had the education to understand the horror that lies ahead. Oh wait, Chavez will not tolerate dissention; he closed down all media opposed to him and is currently indoctrinating children in school. Can't wait until oil becomes irrelevant. I was born in Venezuela and sadly I am all too familiar with how the govt fails its citizens and vice versa. They should take to hear the words of JFK and ask what they can do for their country.

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K King, Fort Worth, Texas — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:53:31 GMT

Chavez is a power hungry lunatic and incredibly enough he has some idiots in other countries following his lead, Correa in Ecuador and Morales in Bolivia to name two. It is just a matter of time before they lose their support at home and drive their respective countries into ruin. I can understand their revolutions afterall just look at the incredible success of Cuba. Leave them to it, time will take care of them.

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Alex in Toronto, O CANADA — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:54:13 GMT

You have to watch these films before passing judgment on Chavez. There are strong forces within and without the country to remove him from office so that the old status quo of the rich getting richer, and the poor poorer resumes.

Best one:

War on Democracy
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3739500579629840148
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1029172/

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144&q=chavez+revolution&total=310&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363510/

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Maria Patricia, Maracaibo, Venezuela! — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:54:15 GMT

Hey! he is the most ignorant person i have ever seen in my life..I'm embarrassed of him..first he goes and insults the us president..then the king tells him to shut up..i mean..hes just an idiot..here in venezuela u cant find milk, and other important supplies..why? because hes taking it to other coutnries for more money! if he wins this sunday who knows whats gonna happen..i recently turned 18 and i will NOT let him steal my vote..im going to vote really early for NO of course..and seriously hope people realize that he wants to establish a dictatorship! unfortuantely people are very ignorant in this country..and he has brain washed so many!

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Claudia, Rancho Cucamonga, CA — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:00:07 GMT

To me this man is someone who if given any more power he can become very dangerous. He should be taken out of power and let democracy happen in Venezuela, I really just don't understand how he was reelected again.

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Javier, Houston, TX — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:00:27 GMT

I think you are oversimplifying the issue along ethnic lines. Most Venezuelans are of mixed ethnic background, and only a very small fraction could be considered now as "European". Both sides, opposition and chavismo are more homogeneous than what the media reports.

Since Chavez arrival in power he has used the power the the media to convince Venezuelans that the country is divided not only by socioeconomic status, but by ethnicity, and that before Chavez, only the rich and white european elite had power and access to the coveted oil rents. In reality none of the Venezuelan presidents before Chavez can be considered being rich by birth, or being European. In fact they were popular because -just like Chavez, they came from poor backgrounds, and their political agendas were populism and protectionism and distribution of oil rents - just like Chavez.

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Debbie, Seattle Washington — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:00:49 GMT

Hugo Chavez is a pathetic bully and a thief. He rants and raves for hours and makes little sense.The king of Spain was right when he said to him a couple of weeks ago: Why don't you just shut up! There are now more Venezuelan people (i.e. farmers) held for ransom by his Columbian gorilla buddies than in Columbia. There are shortages of common food products like milk, eggs and Pepsi. He has no respect for anyone else. Educated people are against him because they know about the world, they know about history, they know about politics and they have access to reading material. The poor are only "for" him because they know no better, many don't read and don't have access to relevant information and are afraid to exercise their right to vote. They do have access to radio and tv which he seizes control over for blocks of time in excess of 5 hrs at a crack. He preaches his brand of brainwashing to them over the airwaves. It is easy to appeal to ignorant people by promising them the world like he has been. He has not delivered on his promises and only makes their lives worse by causing shortages in common goods. Venezuela has been a democracy for a long time, he would make it a dictatorship with him in charge. Modeling his world like that of his buddy Castro and Cuba. The people in Cuba are no better off for their life style and neither will be the people of Venezuela. They are a good hearted, loving people who work hard and play hard. They deserve better than having some loser like Chavez in charge. Just look at the people of the state of Barinas, in the capital city of Barinas where Hugo grew up. Is their life better now that Hugo has appointed his daddy govenor of the state and his lovely mama "first lady". I think not. Just imagine all the "appointments" he can make for his friends and family members as total dictator. They are better off without him!

NO REFORM!!! Long live democracy in Venezuela.

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Troy Smith, San Francisco — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:02:26 GMT

Unfortunately Venezuela is a case study in a thug taking advantage of poor people, who in the end will suffer the most. The only reason Chavez is able to influence the poor is through oil money.

In the end the rich educated people will live in Miami, and the poor uneducated will be left. All corporations will be nationalized and in decline, this includes the oil industry. Oil production is already decreasing since the foreign companies have been kicked out. Chavez will promise a Mecca, but will deliver a mess. Caracus will look like Havana in a decade.

Who is the benefits the most from Chavez. The country he hates the most, the US. The educated and rich will and have moved to the US. We get the cream of the country, while the poor will be left with a economic mess that will last beyond their lifetime.

Isn't it amazing how one man's demented sense of self and power can ruin a country. My heart goes out to ALL Venezuelans. They have become pawns in a power struggle that will leave them worse off than before.

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G Scott — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:02:47 GMT

Jesus was a socialist. Was he wrong. Capitalism is destroying the world. Using a nation's resources for the benefit of it's citizens is not only the smart thing to do, it's the right thing to do.

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Tom Ritchie — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:03:54 GMT

Just a word from the Pope,then? We are not exactly talking about a muslim civil war here, are we? When will the church defend it's masses, and urge them to protect themselves? (I mean the people, not the pagent!)

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T. Aton, St. Johns FL — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:04:29 GMT

Mr. Brown from Vancouver BC may be surprised to learn that the Mexican presidency is limited to a single six-year term. Get your facts straight, Tony.

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oldfart — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:08:41 GMT

And how many of you are supporting him when you fill your gas tank? You can't tell Chavez to fxxx off and then feed him. His petrolium products should be banned from the United States. Maybe the next president will have the guts to back integrity. China needs his products, and there ya go. Let him choke on the fricken oil!

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V. Debbie, Los Angeles, CA — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:09:24 GMT

This is the first time that I'm reading people with "American" surnames, on an American so-called “liberal” mainstream media, saying that Chavez is actually crazy, even a menace to the international community, and that he's not only impoverishing its people, he's using them to accumulate more power.
I'm impressed that there are individuals out there that don't let the lack of REAL news anywhere in the American media (except the mainstream Spanish speaking media) blurry their common sense and minimal level of logic. .
What you are seeing happening now is not new, for months students, mothers, workers, business owners, politicians, and even clergy have been risking their lives using whatever legal means they still have –until Dec. 2nd- to fight tyranny and hundreds had died without many in the outside world (especially in the US) knowing about it.
For those who see the blue and red parties as clash between classes has no clue of the dynamics of Venezuelan society, especially when after almost 10 years in power Chavez had managed to create two new social classes: the rich: his friends and anyone he could use as an ally even to corroborate that he's not against those who created wealth after decades or centuries of hard work and sacrifices; and the poor: everyone else.
In Venezuela whatever you may have now, you may not have in a minute or two thanks to crime or last-minute decrees made by “chavistas” in the government who just feels like taking it away “in the name of the revolution” Those chavistas of course can keep their stuff or take yours all for themselves…until they join the opposition when they automatically become target of expropriations and persecutions as well.
Would you like something like that happening to you?
My guess is: no.
Would you like to say or do something against it?
My guess is: yes, but in Venezuela you can’t unless you want to end up in prison, publicly humiliated 24/7 by government officials or the government-controlled media, harassed by its allies, or dead.
That’s what the “blue” party is fighting against.
Many students, priests, and mothers are saying: enough!
Changes in the work day can be changed later on, but putting those changes together with proposed changes in presidential terms and freedom of speech and other things that are considered basic and universal human rights in one single block, is a clear demonstration of his demagogue and manipulative tactics
To think that he’s proposing amendments for the same Constitution that he himself created only 8 years ago.

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Cindy Trinidad — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:13:19 GMT

He started out with good intentions, but got lost somewhere along the way! Now poor Venuzuela is becoming more and more isolated as a result of his antics. Even the Spanish speaking nations are becoming fed up with him as a "leader". Soon he will only have Cuba and Communist, or Communist leaning nations as allies. How sad for the people of Venezuela.

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Clint Bowling Green , Kentucky — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:13:57 GMT

I love the hispanic/latin culture, language, etc... and i have always wanted to see Venezuela..however Hugo Chavez cannot insult and threaten the United States government without doing so to we.. the american people. Even though I am not a fan of Bush or of his horrible administration and its disastrous policies; he is our president and we have to deal with our own government and our failed leaders ourselves and we dont need some fat little dog that barks too much lecturing us on how we should live. Chavez behaves like Franco,Hitler,Mussolini,Saddam or that crazy looking N. Korean leader. Therefore the USA should deal with him as we dealt with those other common street thugs...like the trash he is.... I cannot believe the good people of Venezuela havent thrown him out on his a@# already. He behaves like Juan and Eva Peron. Look what happened to them.

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Kevin, Atlanta, GA — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:15:16 GMT

I have visited Venezuela 10 times in the last 4 years. I have met the most wonderful people there. Very God loving and hard working (when there is work). I feel for those that push on day to day to survive under this idiot. If the Venezuelans don't take care of him, maybe Columbia will.

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Jacob, Davis, CA — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:19 GMT

Although there is certainly capitalistic abuse of the poor in all of Latin America, I think Huguito Chavecito is only exploiting the poor to get absolute power. It's too bad good social ideas are always backed by corrupt tyrants.

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Ron Scalf Odessa, Fl. — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:25:51 GMT

If history has taught people anything it should be "Complete power corrupts completely".

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cliff toronto canada — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:31:17 GMT

It is a real shame to see how we are all so quick at comming to judgement bout chavez, let me remind you of the fact that the biggest deception in world history has been and continues to be the unique right of the usa, Bush is the most arrogant democratically ( so called ) dictator known in modren times, lies and deception are part of the everyday vocabaliry of the usa, and its because of such condoned practices, that give rise to and credits dectators such as Chavez... we have to look within before we look arround us

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Grace — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:32:28 GMT

Chavez is using his power to accumulate wealth, that money comes from the oil, who is the principal oil supplier of USA? VENEZUELA, who gave preferential rates to USA in 2002, just before the Irak invasion? VENEZUELA!, Who has bussines deals with USA and USA Government? VENEZUELAN GOVERNMENT!!, The rest is only a charade, propaganda, hipocresy...Poverty in Venezuela is wider than ever in its history, political apartheid is instaled because of chavez speech, he send hatred to every oposition citizen every Sunday in his personal TV program, in his 4 times a week 4 hours chains, in his "lists".
And to begin with, he tried to overturn the government twice. And he is a militar, what good can come from that curriculum?

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Elza Y. Goad — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:39:22 GMT

Chavez, is a dictator. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing
promishing great changes but has an inner motive. I do
not trust him..He is teaming up with evil men and his words defiled with corruptions especially against America and our President...It is sad the Venzulean people have such a bad government. We must pray God have mercy on them and give them abundant provisions. Also that the Word of God be preached there. Elza

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Martha Orlando Florida - born in Cuba — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 04:59:16 GMT

Why is it that people who are ignorant of how Castro got in power are the ones that talk about exploitation of Latin America? Castro came out from the hills Jan 1, 1959 - nobody has ever elected him. Most people outside of the Bastistianos helped him and cooperated with him, then he turned on everyone and declared Communism. If you're going to make statements, at least have a clue!

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Hixson, TN — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:00:34 GMT

Ayrn said....

"Chavez evicted any nay-sayers that still existed in parliament. He has padded his seat with supporters that are merely following this somewhat psychotic leader in an effort to line their own pockets.
The blue party may win the vote against Chavez despite his trickery in the placement of the work day referendum etc. But we will never hear of the real tallies. Chavez will ensure that the red party is successful even if they only receive a single vote. He will simply take over as he has done before. Hugo Chavez preys on the weaknesses of his people. He is re-elected time and again through fear and corruption. I pity my friends that I have left behind in Venezuela. Their hands are tied and, until someone rids the country of this corrupt and evil political leader, Venezuelans will have to watch their beloved country fall rapidly in chaos and ruin."

Curiously like our current administration....

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marty CR Iowa — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:27:14 GMT

To you Canadians bashing my country, I say to you as the King of Spain rightfully said to Hugo why don't you just shut up? what in the he-- did any American ever do to you. You come across the border for our health care when yours takes too long or is not as good. You come across our borders freely to buy cheap because with your UHC it takes all your money to pay the taxes. I sell more things on ebay to Canadians than I do to my own country, why?? because it is cheaper. What country gets all the calls for aide when disaster strikes anywhere in the world. We do. I am sick and tired of Canadian bashing us. GET OVER IT.

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C Gibson Tuscaloosa Alabama — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:28:17 GMT

I think Chavez is a idiot and is a danger to the whole world. so why do so many Americans still buy gas from Citgo which is owned 100% by Chavez? They are contribting to his wealth and power. When will we ever learn? Boycott Citgo and Chavez!

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Tyler, Houston, Texas — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:31:40 GMT

This thread confirms that Americans do not know much about Venezuela. Under Chavez, Venezuela has improved economically. Venezuelans have more access to education and health care and poverty and unemployment has decreased. Chavez has 60-70% approval ratings because he has delivered.

While I do not like some aspects of the constitutional reform (indefinte election is not one of them, I do have issues with 7 year terms with it though), it is for the Venezuelans to decide. It will most likely be "yes" and Americans and the opposition has to respect that.

The corporate media has done a terrible job reporting on Venezuela. It is clear that they would write anything to make Chavez look bad, including misleading figures, fake polls, or downright misstatements or other distortions.

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N.S. Miami, FL — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:33:28 GMT

Two Words: Fidel Castro. They say those who do not study history, are doomed to repeat it. Ask any Cuban living in the U.S. what they think is going to happen in Venezuela. The Venezuelans were warned: this dictator represents TROUBLE! Cuba only produced sugar & tobacco. Venezuela has oil, and this will mean even more trouble for the rest of us! IGNORANCE is not only costly, it's DEADLY!

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Al Salas Granada Hills, California — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:37:51 GMT

Chaves is an ignorant thug. He fights with Spain,threatens to nationalize their assests. He fights with Colombia. He threatens members of the media. He closes down TV and Radio station that dont tow the Red line. This guy is an embarrasment to Veneuela....PORQUE NO TE CALLAS!!!!!

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jg, Jersey City,Nj — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:43:36 GMT

What saddens me is the majority of Americans that think they have the right to speak of the political process here in the states, verse what is going on out in the world. Have they forgotten that the us does not produce anything anymore? Have they forgotten that most of the products that we sell in our stores are made in a communist country that allows only one child per family? Have they forgotten that the products that they buy at their local walmart or best buy, come from a country that has no freedom of religion? Let get real, we speak against these governments but yet we buy the products that their countries produce. Stop being two faced about it folks. either we support or not and it may not seem like we support directly but we do if we are buying the products they are producing.
We import oil from countries that punishes its public for speaking out against it's government, we do it as well, we send the fbi or such to the doors of those that speak out and make enough noise that it bothers someone in higher office. Lets stop playing stupid as a public and wake up and realize what is going on in our own country before we starting trying to dictate what should go on in another country.

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Guillermo Gonzalez, Los Angeles, CA — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:48:14 GMT

What people should really know is that Venezuela is the third worlds oil exporter and the record history oil prices have make this tyrant one of the richest leaders in the world. He goes around latin america buying company (friends), he brings shameless americans and give them money for their support (Harry Belafonte, Danny Glover) among others and the little he does for the people he advertise it like no other. He is big enemy right now is his own corrupt political friends who are afraid of being cut loose. He will be hit by his own revolution!!!!

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Roberto Montreal Ca — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:50:58 GMT

NO matter which side u chose, The U.S. foreign policies have help Chavez and other leftist gouvernments in the region to gain popularity.
Many cases(like the Bolivian water scandal) where U.S. companies with the help of the U.S. gouv. control puppet presidents in order to extract the resources away from the natives (like water, coal, oil etc..) to sell them abroad, all profits stay in U.S. hands and corrupt local gouvernments and nothing for the poor. Chavez is the counterforce to all that, poor people got their chance to elect one of them, in this case a potential nut case or a hero. In either case The U.S. bares some (not all) responsibility. Fair is fair , I agree he is a "potential" dictator ,however, if the local MAJORITY is benefiting with Chavez,that is democracy even if we don't like it. Let's just hope he does turn into a totalitarian "stalin style" dictator.

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S. James — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 06:08:42 GMT

Cliff from Ontario... Maybe they should re-instate the extra year of high school that was abolished a few years ago. You could certainly use the information in a social studies class. After you graduate, make it your mission to head out to British Columbia and teach Tony Brown what you have learned. Hitler was a dictator---- dead. Ceausescu--- dead. Mussolini--- dead, Castro-marginalized--- near dead.

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pandy — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 06:11:25 GMT

You don't think this isn't going to be a fixed vote right? He learned this from LBJ, and Bush how to fix it before it's ever counted. "vote early and vote often!"

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Carlos , Los Angeles — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 06:38:00 GMT

Why the heck are we still burning their oil?
Enough is enough, we put a man on the moon, but we are still using a dirty depleting energy source.
Without our dollars these tyrants would have no power.
I hope democracy wins in Venezuala, if the people like him and give him a victory, thats ok, its their country.
But people like him have a tendency to win, legaly or otherwise.

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G,Tx — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 06:40:03 GMT

Looks like a snake.Moves like a snake.Smells like a snake....Is it Hugo?? Is it Big Oil Co.?? I wonder...

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Louis de Leon, Montreal, QC — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 06:44:24 GMT

I believe people are confusing the real issues here. Chavez is a despot, tiranical power hungry megalomaniac who wants to turn Venezuela into a dictatorship. There are no limits to his ambition. Power makes people sick. Remember Stalin? Hitler? etc. etc.I really hope the Venezuelan people will fight for their freedom. It's their choice.

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Bat Manchester Lincoln Nebraska — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 06:53:43 GMT

But as the Bush Administration cut the funding for the LIHEAP program, (you know the one,) the program designed to keep Americans from freezing to death for the 7th year in a row, who was it that once agin, for the 7th year in a row, who has stepped in to fill the heating needs of middle class and poor Americans? Oh. That's right. Hugo Chavez. Ask your government and stop believing the lies told by mainstream corporate media.

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Becky Jenkins, St. Anthony, Idaho — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 07:03:35 GMT

All or none. Is this any different than the pork the US congress puts into bills which the president cannot glean out because he/she does not have "line-item" veto power?

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Mike Alen — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 07:05:32 GMT

The US Should not mind its own business . Especially since he is like those terrorist leaders that hate the US. Already he threatens to cut oil to the US. Trying to blame the US like always.Like all other terrorist leaders do. Why doesn't Chavez mind his own business. I think they need to get rid of Chavez before things get out of control and he keeps trying to brainwash his country. In the future the people there will actually start to hate the US like the terrorist countries that are brainwashed also.
I didn't agree with what Bush did with Iraq and the US goverment has its problems also because they give to many rights to the people to sue each other.There are no more accidents in the US, usually they try to blame someone or even people not involved to get money.it is something that needs to be looked at if every person wants to respect each other and forgive.Whatever happenned to Forgivness? Now its only after the person gets the Check.

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jason California — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 07:06:38 GMT

Chavez is a nut, but he isnt our concern.
The problem is for the people of Venezuala and for the countries around him.
If he wants to shut off the oil that will be great, prices will go up forcing people to conserve, and we will just increase or imports from Canada and Mexico.
I think he has done a lot of good for the poor, but he will undo it all. Who actually wants to model their country on Cuba.

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Mark G, Denver, Colorado — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 07:09:32 GMT

I'm sure Hugo's neighbors will tire very soon of his incessant whinning. Have you ever known a really intelligent person who rambles on for more than 15 minutes at a time???? I have lived and worked in Latin American for years and know the great people of the region - and I'm sure they would rather be good neighbors as "Americans" than listen to this dictator, who hates the U.S. and Christianity. Like the past leader of Spain just said, Hugo, "shut up."

In my travels around the world I've never met anyone who said their leader was doing a perfect job...fortunately, in a democratic setting, you can change the leaders you don't like, in Venezuela, they will have to live with their decision..if it's RED. Sorry!!

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lance, san diego, california — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 07:32:22 GMT

when will the Bush administration stop interfering in the affairs of Venezuela.

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Democrat, San Francisco — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 07:34:10 GMT

That's right TONY: In Mexico there's no re-election, FYI. And their citizens are a living proof of democracy by bumping PRI after 60+ years of power and after the PAN took over again winning the CHAIR. The PRD (another DICTATOR idiot Manuel Lopez Obrador) was defeated aswell by DEMOCRACY. So I wouldn't use Mexico in you examples. Mexico has shown their commitment to democracy.

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Marc, Phoenix, AZ — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:12:28 GMT

Let's just wait for the proverbial "Beer Hall Putsch" and see how it pans out. Let's not bicker, let's just see if Chavez gently absorbs Columbia. Who cares? Maybe Ecuador. So what? Panama - who needs them anyway, right? Global warming will open up the northern routes! That's okay. Leave Chavez alone. It'll all blow over. Heck, give him Guatemala and El Salvador, too. After all, Mexico's a pretty big buffer.

The above is, as far as we know, pure fiction. It's the "as far as we know" that can haunt the world. Hitler proved that.

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Matt, Santo Domingo, DN — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:16:19 GMT

I'll tell you whats going to happen, the reform will pass, and we will have a bigger CUBA in the caribbean, and then a civil war. That's the future for venezuela.

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DC — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:22:16 GMT

Why does this have to be about the US? Why do we say "well Chavez isn't doing anything worse that what Bush is doing?" This is about a man who is using the poor, baiting them with a carrot, and using that to take over? I'm unsure why it's comparible. He wants to be the next Castro, who he sees as a hero. Have we not seen what the Cuban people have seen? Have we not seen what Cuba has turned into? Talk to a Cuban refugee in Miami and see what life is like. It's the exact same thing, only decades later.

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David Jacob — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:31:56 GMT

Hey Einstien, you may or may not have spelled Uran right or wrong, but you definitely spelled Continent wrong!

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ehshan Hymayun,Port louis,Mauritius — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:33:10 GMT

It is those of the like who discriminate,dominate,subdue,oppress and exploit that create the like of Chavez who in turn will disriminate,etc,to survive.Meditate!

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James Mott Sacramento California — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:34:24 GMT

Wake up people!! The new era of "fear control" is happening all over the world. King George Bush dictates policy in America without the consent of Congress or the American people. Yesterday King George told the American people that we will have troops in Iraq forever!! He is cutting 200 thousand jobs at government installations in America to make this possible. No wonder Vladimir Putin in Russia wants to be President forever. Chavez, the President of Russia and the Chinese government's refusal to let American Naval vessels dock in Hong Kong are just a few indicators of how the rest of the world's reaction to King George and his "New World Order Policy of "God Bless America and nowhere else". The United States government has created an atmosphere of of hatred of America all over the world. We don't even recognize the United Nations in wanting to be part of the Mid East Peace talks. If America can have it's own world agenda--I guess other nations leaders feel they should be able to excercise their rights to the new "twisted verson of demoocracy.

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cw — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:47:40 GMT

Doug Harvey writes: "Chavez is much less dangerous than Bush and Cheney and more democratic. Poor people there have a better chance of a leg up than they do here. Many of the above commentators are either badly deceived or full of it."

What fantasy world do you live in? How exactly is Venezuela more democratic? They are about to elect a dictator for life. Would you like Bush as dictator for life? If you think there is voting fraud in this country comparable to the fraud and intemedation that Chavez practices you have no connection with reality. And the poor have better opportunities there than in the USA?? That's too stupid to even rebut. This a far richer country and the poor here are much better off than those under Chavez. How do you manage to deceive yourself to this extent?

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glenn ozark mo — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:20:12 GMT

I don't buy oil or gas from chevez he can keep it and choke on it. and all you that agree with this asshole can go live in his hell hole.

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volkswagen，china — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:23:13 GMT

it needs man of courage to re-shuffle the social unequal,to restore the people's property because the richs always form staunch groups or classes.

Not every politician has that courage.

Chavez is just the savior of mass of people. I believe in him, the contemporary Che Guevara

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George Bush — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:33:54 GMT

To the person who calls him/herself T

When you post ludicrous statements such as, "How many children has Chavez killed by direct orders to his army? ZERO. How many has Bush killed? THOUSANDS." kindly post the URL to the document proving your statement. Thank you.

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mike downey — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:34:48 GMT

Ia there some reason we should be afraid of him?

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Mayra, San Pedro, CA — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:42:12 GMT

As a dual citizen of Mexico and the United States, I am well aware of the problems Chavez has caused in Central and South America. How blind can the citizens of Venezuela that support this drastic constitutional change be? Chavez is no president; he is an instigator and the fact that his country has oil gives him influence, even if he is somewhat demented and paranoid. If this constitutional reform passes, expect the opposition to fight back violently, especially since the opposition leader has already received death threats. Have they not learned from what happened in Cuba?
A friend of mine was a teacher in Venezuela who helped Chavez' campaign by gathering votes. She retired and moved to Mexico with her husband. I have found out that out of the pension that was due to her, she was only given a check for three months' pension and is now in a legal battle trying to get her full pension. I know about a lot of these cases in which the Venezuelan government promised to take care of the poor and create programs from the money obtained from the oil, but have not been fulfilled.
Chavez, with his dementia, is causing a lot of problems for the US, Mexico, and Europe. Like the King of Spain, I would love to tell him to shut up. If his cause for conflict and drama does not end soon, I would not be surprised if this started a WW III somehow.

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reality check — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:57:15 GMT

Watching CNN for 30min is not being educated on world affairs.
After you educate yourself with real history and learn who really is in control you then talk about what really is Democracy.
Greed is king curruption is the result
Does anyone really think they have any say in what really happens in the world. HA HA what a joke.
This Democracy we live is a system controled by wealth
Without crude there is no ecomnomy because all of those so valued material items we so much enjoy are all oil based, without oil there is no food follow this for a bit
Farmers need oil for machinery to plant and pick
How will the feed get to the animals we love to eat
How will the meat or anything get to your stores
How will you get to the store
Can you survive without the system? (NO)
The facts are OIL is coming to an end, be it because of others owning it , wanting it, it it just plain running out.
A fight for survival and world domination is what is at hand.
Prepare for $5.00 and up a gallon in the real near future
The price increase trickles though out our whole system, why? because like I said from the bottles of water you drink to the wrapers on your candy ITS ALL OIL BASED!!!
So when our leaders say the wars are for freedom I suppose they really are not lieing, but the only thing everyone must realize is that this freedom we enjoy comes at a very expensive cost not money but lives all around the world including our soldiers
All of our greed and want for things is what drives this machine
Corporations run this world ( fact)
We feed this machine by wanting more(they just supply)
The people we elect are there to make sure these machines are well oiled ,we can critisize and say they are not listening all we want to make ourselfs feel better but reality is they are there to make sure that you are able to get that ipod at walmart, starbucks in the morning and of course the SUV And blig blig
But like it or not things will be changing in the near furture
The dollar is falling
Propery prices are falling
Stocks are falling
Our banks are being bought by oil
Fresh water reserves around the world are being bought
by rich oil
Reccesion is around the corner
Borders are for show only, corps need more profit so they need more people to sell to ( A WORLD ECONOMY)
A PRIVATE ARMY FOR CORPS ONLY ( BLACKWATER)
ONE MONEY ( THE EURO)
AND LETS NOT FORGET ALL THAT STRAGE WEATHER
GOOD LUCK TO US ALL
GOOD LUCK TO US ALL

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Larry Hamby, Houston, Texas — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:03:32 GMT

I lived in Venezuela for ten years. I returned to the USA with a beautiful Venezuelan wife whom I love dearly. The people are great, I made fantastic friends, and I would love to return. Why not put desks and books in the schools, mow the grass, fix the stop lights, feed the poor, clean up THE ENVIRONMENT starting with Lake Maracaibo,clean up the medical facilities and organize them with well educated staff, doctors and nurses, get rid of the corrupt style sindicatos, organize clean public restrooms, clean up the corrupt police groups whom are always looking for a hand out. Concentrate on the people first prior to building a weapons factory or buying fighter jets. Venezuela has such potential to be a wonderful country of great wealth. I support some things that Chavez stands for but he needs to start acting like a model PRESIDENT and not a Los Angeles gang leader.

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Kurt Steele, Mississippi — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:22:58 GMT

Cheney and Chavez might be cut from the same cloth. The difference is whether or not to use your country's wealth to help those at the bottom (like Chavez) or those at the top (like Cheney).

When the US laws and tax favoritism are written by the wealthy class's lobbyists on K Street and Fox News and other sheep media cheer lead the administration in power, then democracy doesn't exist anymore. Energy companies and investment banks call the tune, and when they don't get to do that, like in Venezuela, our CIA, media, and for profit entities (Blackwater?) attempt to undermine that government to reassert control.

Defending democratic principles, like separation of powers and free elections, is what the US is supposed to practice and encourage in the rest of the world. When those principles get in the way of challenging energy companies, private banks, and established wealth, then the principles go in the toilet.

It is possible to have a regulated capitalism that ensures a fair distribution of wealth (and land), but the US never encourages that. That said, Chavez's tactics and public personae leave much to be desired.

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pass the gravy /az — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:24:24 GMT

Chavez: A lunatic like Hitler was, no need to worry ""Time and the People will destroy this tyrant!
War will serve no purpose to remove him. His greed for more Power is the same path Castro followed. Castro is Chaves's idol.

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Arafat Jamil ,Beirut,Lebanon — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:44:48 GMT

It is not for the Pop Corn eater ,Hollywood movie watchers to vote for Shavez by SI or NO .This is a venezualian matter and for the people to decide.
You can continue watch other movie on other channel like "Iraq bloodshed again & again" or "Palestine a country or kind of food" or "with lebanon to where?" or "long road to Kabul" or "yogoslavia to the end" or other american dramas to your choice but leave the general in peace ,leave the new Simon Bolivar do his mission of liberation of south america from poverty ,corruption and emperialism.
salute to Joseph Phelps, Tampa, Florida

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Miguel Guerrero Mercedes, Texas — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:02:19 GMT

Remember Noriega? Well, this man is doing the same thing that, that dictator did and will end up in jail just like him. I hope that the peaceful people of Venezuela kicks him out of power.

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Chris, Las Vegas, Nevada — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:04:07 GMT

Am I the only one who sees that Chavez' "sharing the oil revenue with the poor" is only a grandstanding ruse to keep himself in power? It's obvious that he "shares" ONLY with those who vote for him and the others who don't soon are unemployed. They in turn become the poor who will then have to vote for Chavez in order to feed their families. It's so blatent a power ploy that I can't believe some of you are falling for this crap, standing on your pulpits, praising the "democracy"- trans: "vote for me or be punished"- under this vile megalomaniac. He's just another dictator looking to keep himself rich, famous and all-powerful by any means necessary- and this includes this disgusting brand of coercion. Notice how his "Chavez is president forever" amendment has to be voted on coupled with the same pay for less work time and more social security money for the poor? What a manipulative joke of an amendment.
Laurie in Flagstaff, PLEASE move to Sedona with the rest of you New Age hippie wannabees and keep your head stuffed securely in the sand while you espouse the glorious awakening power of the indigenous Venezuelan people- which is no more than the poor and naive taking a cheap bribe to allow Chavez to be set up as king for life. That's about as intelligent as Inez Deborah Emilia Altar, who seems to equate the "triumph of reason, dignity and humanity" with Chavez distributing money to those who vote for him and making sure that those who don't become unemployed.

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Geronimo A — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:07:19 GMT

joel, that is easy to say drill oil around our coasts, but we can pay a hight price if oil leaks to our beaches. That will be an economic disaster for South Florida. In this case, the salt will be more expensive than the goat flesh.

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JoseMaria, Barcelona Spain — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:20:49 GMT

I can only be grateful for Aryn from Ak. sharing of such clear, eluciditive and personal views. Also thanks to Inez from Santarem very true coment "So the USA does not score top on popularity ranking - right? Well, maybe that could have been different had the USA really early on and in time in addition to the caring and devoted members of Point Four, invested more in effectively raising the standard of living of South Americans at large to levels which ensure human survival,health, and at least minimum comfort, instead of a close to exclusive concentration on economic and geopolitical goals, which will have facilitated the creation of an exploitatory image."
All done and said Hugo Chavez still acts and looks like a pig.

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Jay, Jacksonville, Fl — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:22:19 GMT

How in the world can Chavez be wrong with such "intellectual" and freedom loving friends like Naomi Campbell, Danny Glover and Sean Penn.
Signed,
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

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Edgardo Lopez, Germany — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:27:14 GMT

He is the great "estupido" in the world, he is a ignorance, big head with no brain.

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james — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:35:25 GMT

its about time someone has done something to help the poor. no one can agreed with everything chevez say or do. Guest what most poor people disagree with most of what Bush say and do. its the poor going to war while the rich get richer.if the rich go to war and their kids die and get hurt to that will be equal justice. Thank the lord bush term will soon end. America need to find a way to work with both cuba and ven. Cuba have more doctors and education for all. are they perfect. no. nor is america.

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English Only No More Spanish — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:36:13 GMT

All I can say is that if Chavez stays in power for the entire term of his life span and the people want to leave go to another country. Stay the hell out of the USA. I'm sick and tired of hearing Spanish. This country is NOT a Bi-Lingual country. It's time we the English speaking majority of this country take a stand and say no more spanish. If you people don't like what I'm saying them KMA.

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Francisco Valiente, Corozal, Puerto Rico — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:42:05 GMT

To all venezuelans:

Chavez is a dictator. Vote no in the referendum.
We more Castros in America.

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Jim Webb, La Crosse, Wisconsin — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:42:05 GMT

I'm sure he is looking at his friend Fidel's massive net worth ($900,000,000 - according to Forbes) and he is probably a little envious of such. After all Cuba doesn't even have any oil reserves.

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David Twiggs, Lenoir City, TN — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:45:27 GMT

My father grew up in Cuba before Castro. My grandfather told my father that something had to change there. The gap between the rich and poor was too great. Castro changed that. Chavez is doing that in Venezuela. Dictatorship isn't good, but when we, the US, don't help the poor in our own back yard, then this is the only way change comes.

In the US, FDR was elected 4 times in a row because the gap between the rich and poor had gotten too great. Money is a very powerful weapon. I don't see why the rich don't see that it is in their best interest to keep a strong middle class and that no one feels left out. I don't care what you call it, words can't hurt anyone. Why are we so afraid of socialism in this country?

I do believe in capitalism. It has proven to be the most effective way to exchange goods and services without a doubt. But supply and demand only works if there is a good referree, government, to make sure rules are followed and that it doesn't get out of wack. From time to time, the balance toward the rich gets too great.

Remember, you didn't "earn" your wealth all by yourself. You cam in to this world a baby like we all did and there were many helpers along the way. Even in your wealth today, you have help, divine and otherwise.

You know when your neighbors not so fortunate as you are having a hard time. You rich are not blind. Allow for socialized medicine, tax yourself to pay for it. Support better education taxes and pay a larger share.

If you don't do these things, ultimately, history proves that you will lose all and in the process, we all ultimately lose because democracy dies as it must to conquer wealth which is so powerful. Look at Rome, Marie Antoinette, you name it. Your charities can't stop this from happening. There is such a thing as obscene wealth. Castros and Chavezes are the natural response of citizens pushed too far. Learn from history, don't repeat it! FDR is a saint to the poor in the US and a devil to wealthy families. By fighting so hard to keep your money, you will always lose it.

I don't understand

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Maria — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:45:41 GMT

I was born in Cuba and see over the years the corruption the Goverment have. Fidel establish one class, sure, he got everything & the people have nothing. He create the hate & poverty the only way to live is survive every day a little piece of meal. Fidel own the island making him one of the richest men in the world. I hope with all my heart thats no happen to Venezuela. I have confident this people will fight for their freedom & Venezuela will be a country for the people & no for one person: The evil Chavez!

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Franco Caballero — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:02:57 GMT

Chavez does not love the Venezuelans. He's got a lot of money and he's using it to promote hate among the Venezuelans themselves and hate against other countries. That goes against the spirit or idiosyncrasy of the Venezuelans, who are jovial and friendly people. He's bought a lot of weapons and is buying factories of weapons and ammunitions. Instead of improving the life of the people (there is more crime than ever in Venezuela) he's given away more than $32 billions of dollars in free oil to "friends" and to get adepts to his orbit of influence. Do you think Chavez like the black people of Harlem? He gave them free oil when he last visited UN in New York. This is just a small instance where he gives away oil to get friends, or adepts of his "new" doctrine of the Socialism Of The XXI Century. His colleagues around the world are the crap of the human society. Castro, Iran, North Korea, etc. all of them full of hate against the free countries and wishful to have nuclear weapons.
The mistakes of former presidents of Venezuela should not be an excuse to establish a kingdom in Venezuela, that is what Venezuela would become under the Si, and much less give omnimode power to an inept like Chavez and with a lot of money to waste, riches that supposedly belong to the people and he's using it for something else. And that something else is evil. He wants confrontation, he wants war. He wants to see the blood of the Venezuelans to flow.

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Manuel Ortega — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:04:16 GMT

This man is no different than Saddam , Osama, Keddafi, Amin, etc. They start out to help, then they start the killing. Ignorant citizens of Argentina to fall for this mad man....a fool. Someone who is better off D E A D!

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CD Sutton II, Pennsylvania — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:04:41 GMT

I find it interesting that Bush would be so boldly hypocritical to criticize any voting process in any other country in the world...considering the malfeasance that took place here in 2000 & 2004. Furthermore, most of those opposing Chavez and the reforms he has put into place are the decendants of the Spanish conquistadors who raped the country in the first place. We should follow his example on two points:
1) Nationalize the oil industry-regulate prices and production, as well as federally mandating the switch to hydrogen and/or deisel technologies within ten years.
2) Share our oil wealth with our poorest peoples.-We hear so much about "conditions in the third world" Our third world is in our slums, and on our reservations. We cannot bleat over the poor and disenfranchised in the world until we have taken care of our own. Provide low and/or no cost heating fuel to any family or household that maintains a yearly income of less than $20,000.

Have we forgotten, or has our so-called "liberal" media just not reported that, when our poor were facing another freezing winter with high fuel prices, it wasn't George Bush who helped them out? Hugo Chavez stepped up. Every poor senior and slum tenant in America owes Chavez a debt of gratitude.
Maybe we need a little socialism back in our government. Haven't we had enough of the sort of greed we see from the facist right?

CDS II
SE PA

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Brenda Raleigh NC — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:07:45 GMT

Cliff in Toronto "we have to look within before we look around us" I say to you this is a blog ABOUT Chavez' "dirty tricks" to abolish term limits--this is not about the USA. So what I say to you is I don't hear you commenting about YOUR country Canada--so clean your own doorstep before you try to clean ours heer in USA... :)

Now to the questions at hand..What is going on with Chavez? I know little of the Venzuleans' political history, but in reading all the blogs from the Venzuleans and those who have spent considerable time there, I have to conclude that Chavez is trying to create a dictatorship just like his "buddy" Castro. We as Americans know something about Castro's political history. Castro took control of the military, the media and created divisions in the populations. Further he made alliances with a Major power--Russia. Thousands fled to US back then and still do to this day. The US has gladly taken them in, but the fine Cuban people desire to this day to take back their country and make it a democracy where every man, woman and child have a God given right to pursue their own happiness, etc.

Chavez is in the first stages of pulling a Castro...to make a dictatorship...do the Venzulean people want this...from the bloggers and others who have been on TV talking about it...the answer is NO. Can they stop it...probably not BECAUSE Chavez is in control of the military, will abolish the last independent press if he can win on Sunday and those who have had the means to flee have left which leaves the poor who have no choice but to respond to the money Chavez uses to "bribe" them. Finally, the elections as the Venzulean bloggers stated will be "rigged" if the vote doesn't go his way. In other words it will be totally impossible for the citizens to pursue their happiness including the poor who are where Chavez wants them "under his thumb"

Finally the last questions that has been addressed here in several bloggers comments--Why is it always Ameica's fault if something isn't right in the world. Just because our country has been successful in running a long standing representative government doesn't mean we try to run everyone elses issues. We as American generally feel lucky to live in a country that even if we don't like a particular president or the fact that the Congress has so much partisianship, we can still talk about it, protest it and vote those reps. out of office. I say this to express that as one of those Americans, I care greatly for the peoples of this earth who haven't had the advantages of living in the USA and wish such prosperity to all. We want to share our gifts and knowledge with others. In fact we give Billions of dollars to countries all over the world. We have diversity of peoples and religion and we try to tolerate all within the law of our land. This is what we all want for South America and Venzuala's peoples.

Chavez is a megalamaniac and I can only pray that somehow the people of Venzuala find a way to overcome him.

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Fenderman, Paw Paw, Michigan — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:13:24 GMT

Anyone that has to kick the United States around just to gain acceptance with the thugs of the world bears serious scrutiny. Chavez has obviously read the line in Mein Kampf: "a wise conqueror will, when possible, issue his demands in installments."

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Pedro, Pfafftown, NC — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:22:25 GMT

Most Americans don't know that Chavez' government owns Citgo brand fuel. why don't we counter his threats to cut off our oil supply by pro-actively boycotting his gas stations?

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fern, new york state — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:23:39 GMT

I honestly believe that no matterhow the votes are cast, the results will favor hugo chaves' desires, because, the system there is totally currupt. I feelsad for the the vast majority of those who don't want this to happen , but the election is nothing more than a puppet election!. the only way to remove chaves is to have another revolution, and that is quite sad, However I really wish our government will stay out of this one! the U.S. has no business telling other countries how to rule internally!!!

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Wayne Wigglesworth, Valparaiso, Indiana — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:29:30 GMT

A couple questions here: Where is the Catholic Church in terms of Chavez and his referendum? Secondly, has any prominent Venezuelan American such as Ozzie Guillen spoken out yet in opposition to this tyrant? Is he and others reaping the benefits of American life while continuing to support his dictator in chief?

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jason falls,bangor, maine — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:39:09 GMT

this entire blog proves the point that americans cannot take criticism. none of the issues people have mentioned matter to them. they are merely reacting like infants to chavez's repeated criticism of america. let there be more brave men like him who can rid the world of the american bully.

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Phillip, Toronto, Canada — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:39:32 GMT

Chavez refers to Fidel as his "mentor," talk about the blind leader the blind.

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geraldo mendes houston tx. — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:39:47 GMT

Joe Mpls, I don't know what you are trying to say, but before you say something look on your roots, maybe you have a trail behind you.

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Dave, Houston Tx — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:41:46 GMT

I cannot believe anyone would think a piece of trash dictator like Hugo Chavez was, and ever will be elected by his people. I have Venezuelan friends who are all slowly but surely relocating here. Chavez stole the vote before, and will easily do it again. Just what the world needs is another Castro. Hugo and his iranian buddy both need a serious attitude adjustment

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J.R. Rodriguez Los Angeles, CA. — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:55:48 GMT

Senor Chavez is muy loco en la Cabeza... He is power hungry and wants to be like his buddy Fidel. He eats well while the people of Venezuela starves. As far as I'm concerned, I'll never fill up with "Citgo" and if this administration in Washington decides to grow some.... testosterone, we would boycott everything that comes from Venezuela and put such tariffs on their imports that they would think twice about the way they behave...

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WJH Ciudad del Carmen, Campeche. — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:57:14 GMT

I lived many happy years in Venezuela, a beautiful country populated with fine people. I sincerely hope they get what the majority wants.

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Mark, Cincinnati, OH — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:04:40 GMT

Why is it that we can never have a mixed reaction to anything these days? Is the entire world really so polarized? The truth is that Hugo Chavez has been a force for good in Venezuela. He has given hope to the hopeless and finally used Venezuelan oil profits for Venezuelans, and the poor generally. He is also and insufferable blow hard and his reform proposals are frightening (even to the Venezuelan poor, who form his base) Mark me down as a Chavista who would vote NO tomorrow.

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gabriel garcia — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:08:05 GMT

Chavez has already won, the wealthy will leave and those left behind will have to abide or die. Sad to see but get ready.

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bill isenberger baton rouge,la. — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:09:20 GMT

in response to Mr. Tom Krieglen's assertion that Castro was elected. You seem to be somewhat misinformed. Castro came to power through a violent revolution against a corrupt dictator. He used the same pretext as Chavez by manipulating the atrocious economic straits of the poor and turned that into a dictatorship. Chavez is nothing more than a Castro wannabe. And by the way Tom, Hitler was also elected to office, try reading some history before bloviating
your historical ignorance.

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jh, nyc — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:09:36 GMT

Even if he loses, they'll say he won. The Chavistas control everything in Venezuela now, and they've shown they have no scruples about shutting down all opposition press. Why would they hesitate to rig an election?

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Ahmet Tahtakilic, Miami, Florida — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:13:07 GMT

Hugo Chavez, Vladimir Putin and Mahmoud Ahmedinejad are all certified fools and lunatics. The world have seen their kind before and long after they are gone will see more of them; as long as the people in their countries are nothing but a herd of sheep.
Peoples of Iran, Venezuela and Russia: Rise up and take back your countries before it is too late.

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TJ Smith, The Hague, NL — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:22:42 GMT

The American holywood types to are cozying up to Chavez remind me of the intellectuals in the 1930s who when told about Stalin starving the Ukrainians said it was no concern of them. I would like someone in the media to ask the likes of Sean Penn whether the average citizen from Venezuala has the freedom to criticze Chavez with the same verbal tirade he unleashes against President Bush!

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Alan M. Arsht — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:44:19 GMT

I would like to hear from Jimmy Carter about the current situation in Venezuela. Carter contributed significantly to the election "victory" of Chavez a few years ago when he acted as an election observer to what almost everyone else thought was a stolen election. Chavez had canceled the participation of the OAS and European Union election observers that customarily verify transparency of elections. Though there were widespread claims that Chavez had stolen the election after the polls closed, Carter alone stood up and announced that he thought it was fair. I think Carter should now apologize for his folly.

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Scott Banzhaf Syracuse NY — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:45:25 GMT

This is just another example that our current diplomatic style and military intervention are not a threat to curb any other country's leadership to behave in a civilized fashion toward the USA and the world in general. Serious consideration should be given to revoking the ban on government directed assassination. Military invasions kill soldiers and civilians alike for no purpose. Try removing the leadership directly responsible and let's see if that brings about changes in attitudes more efficiently.

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J. Ortiz, Indian Trail, NC — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:54:39 GMT

Chavez is just trying to make a nobel effort to bring to Venezuela the same kind of advances the Cuban people have enjoyed for so many years. He is trying to mimic the prosperous economy that is found in Cuba. What is wrong with that? :-)

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chudie — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:55:01 GMT

are we talking about chavez or bush?

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Maria Doa — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:57:55 GMT

Chavez is a dictactor, a pig with no education and a terrorist who has stolen from the people. He will not help Venezuela prosper in any way shape or form but rather destroy it and turn it into a 3rd World Country filled with proverty, and desperation just like Cuba and every other regime where dictators have stood. It is just too predictable.

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Ken, Greenville, SC — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 13:58:37 GMT

At the end of the day, the real question is, does he take care of his people. Does he need some help on his foreign policy and his public speaking - absolutely. I believe the US doesn't have to do anything with him. These things are like the disease cancer meaning that, eventually it kills the very thing that was keeping them alive. He will discredit himself over time.

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Albert — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:00:02 GMT

America took care of Iraq cause we thought it was a threat, and now this "Loco Hugo" or Crazy Hugo, as they call him in Venezuela want to do the same thing like Saddam Hussein, you need to see him as an before and after: before, skinny like a cat, after: fat as a bad cow! you make your own thoughts... I only would say that not only toilet paper is scarce in Venezuela, if you go to ANY supermarket, you woint even find the basics, not even sugar! you make your conclusions!

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Ruben Luera, New Mexico — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:03:04 GMT

Are we dicussing Chavez or Bush?

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J Robertson, Denver, Colorado — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:03:51 GMT

For anyone who thinks Chavez is great and the US is built purely of evil, do you actually watch any news besides US-based news - which seems to be that which you hate and would rather criticise than acknowledge might be true. France24 perhaps? BBC perhaps? The US media isn't the only one who discusses the negatives of Chavez and NO ONE intends to invade Venezuela. In case you need to hear a non-US based media outlet discuss Chavez, here's 2 videos from France24 (and as a reminder to those of you that might think otherwise, the US does not own France): http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/reportages/20071130-venezuela-chavez-economy-fuel-low-prices-shortage.html

http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/special-reports/20071129-chavez-referendum-constitution-venezuela-powers-campaign-yes-no/20071127-Venezuela-Chavez-constitution-por-anti-campaign-reform.html

Wow! Less than 1 Euro to fill up a tank with gas but no food. New schools, new health systems and doctors. Whats the point in cheap gas, new schools, and new doctors? No milk, no sugar, no corn flower, no coffee. When I ask a doctor what are the basics I should do, you know what s/he says? Eat healthy. But how can I eat healthy if the basics aren't even available; how can I go to school and learn on an empty or malnourished stomach? Now that's the sign of a good leader, don't you think? Lets look at Mugabe from Zimbabwe - oh! What do you know? Same problems. The key difference between these 2 is Chavez is not killing his people; but he doesn't seem to be making it easier either.

Tony Brown - your statement appears to have grabbed alot of attention - and mine as well. I would ask you simply: Where are we minding Venezuela's business? Are you referring to the secret CIA coup? Or perhaps some other secret US plan to oust Chavez? C'mon, get real! We don't need to do such a thing; he's destroying himself, he doesn't need our help. Has our embargo of Cuba effected the US? No. Will Chavez embargo of the US affect us? Yes, at first; but eventually we'll find other suppliers and gas will go down. Thats a free market economy in action; something you don't seem to know much about.

In the end, lets admit it, all of this anti-US rhetoric is really about your hatred towards us regarding Iraq. Simply put, please shut and quit your whining - yes Iraq is a mess I admit that, but get over it. The next election here will resolve that. Oh! Look at that, our next election; this may soon be something that Venezuela would know nothing about. However you look at it, things WILL change maybe for the better, maybe for the worse; but at least here, at home, I know that I can effect change. And for you anti-US people out there, please get a clue; blame us for whatever you like, you have and I respect that right but remember its your country that calls on us to get involved much of the time. And sometimes we take things into our own hands, yes. But all-in-all, if you only condemn us for the bad and never congratulate us for the good, then please stay out of our lives because we don't really want you in it. But if you're willing to acknowledge the good, then we'll certainly respect it when you criticise us for the bad.

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Paul Le Clerc, Winter Park, Fla. — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:12:38 GMT

I am soooo amazed that nobody on this blog has said word one about getting Chavez where it counts- HIS WALLET!. How many of you fill your vehicles up at 7-11,Citgo or Petro Express? Thank all of you for monitarilly supporting this panty waste! Chavez is the primary share holder in Citgo and because the knowledgeable American public have started to shy away from the Citgo brand, Chavez is now lining his coffers with the Petro Express line. Think about it the next time you fuel your vehicle! Gas brands DO matter.
May God watch over the Venezuelan People, and may the Canadian School system do a better job at World Civics!

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Takoma Park, Maryland — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:13:58 GMT

thats right, he gives money to poor people... so they'll vote for him.

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Maronfan, Pittsburgh, PA — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:18:44 GMT

The US and the oligarchs so alienated and undermined Chavez from the beginning (as they did to Castro) that it's wonder that he has to consolidate his power. He has been under constant threat. What do you think would have happened to Castro if he hadn't ruled the way he has - he would have been taken out by a Miami-mafia, CIA coup. Instead, his country has been constantly undermined so the conservatives can point to Cuba and say - "Look, socialism doesn't work." It's the IMF and Milton Friedman neo-con economics that are killing Latin America, not socialism. Look inward before you criticize outward. Socialism isn't the perfect system, neither is capitalism, but a mixture of the two seems to work and hopefully, Chavez has work that successfully.

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BG Garza Zapata, TX 78076 — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:23:20 GMT

So if Hugo Chavez has it in mind to isolate his country and quits selling oil to other countries, where is he going to get the money "he gives 100 dollars to the poor"(referring to those that brought this subject up) give medical assistance, feed, clothe and educate the poor? They can't eat oil.

Wake up! all you who defend this dictator. In all things done in this world, it takes a team to be successful. Whether that team is to the left or the right, at a given time, all must come to an agreement on what is right.

Hugo Chavez definetly is not a team player or a responsible leader. When have you heard of other leaders denying toilet tissue, milk and eggs to the needy just to get a vote. Where is he going to get the funds to keep the imported doctors, dentists and to keep the schools and universites operating if he shuts other countries out. DICTATORSHIP keeps a country poor and its people blind to opportunities.

I could go on and on but there are those of us that are educated enough to know the truth and then there are morons that don't understand or won't accept the truth.

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Jeff Magee, Marietta, Ga. — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:37:15 GMT

Democracies are fragile. And I am not sure that most people really want it. The easiet way to gain power it seems is to throw monay at the poor and say are we good? I think alot of people would be just fine with having a government take care of them from cradle to grave and give up their rights to free speech and whatever comes with it. It is true that democracies aren't perfect because we are run by people. It is easy to say that big business is evil, but it is a matter of perception. I kinda like what over 200 years of democracy has given this country and others. I think if Venezuala keeps on trying for democracy in the long run it will be better off. If it doesn't, the short term amy be better under Chavez, but what will happen when the oil runs out. Is short term material well being for the whole worth giving up freedoms and head down the road to totalitarianism?

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Ron......... smalltown, Mo. — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:39:54 GMT

"Considering the U.S. history of adventurism and exploitation in Central and South America it is no surprise we aren't loved down there. Castro and Chavez are in power and have been because the citizxens elect them. Tom Kringlen."
Sir, I don't know where you grew up, but Castro was NEVER elected, don't you know about the Cuba revolution led by Che Guevera ??? Che won the war and gave Castro the leadership of Cuba.... Che liked to fight. He then went to Columbia and tried the same thing and got killed.... Also, all of Castro's elections were "FIXED" and so will Chevez get in the same way. Just look at how they have to vote on things... all or nothing... ??? That's STUPID in a democracy or a Republic.

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Carlos, Houston Tx — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:40:21 GMT

Education is the Key to all ills......hence student activism in Venezuela, China and North Korea....in order for Chavez to maintain control he must suppress knowledge and promote fear....he will provide to meet his end.....History repeats its self..doomed are those who do not recognized it....

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Rogers Marion — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:42:19 GMT

Chavez should be assasinated by anyone who can get within range, along with the Pres of Iran, Kim Jong Il of Korea, Osama, and all the other miscreant morons of the world. The longer they breathe, the longer innocent people, freedom, world peace and stability, and just plain humanity suffers. YES-THEY NEED TO DISAPPEAR, and I bet I'm not the only one who feels this way!!!!! They pacifist peaceniks who sing kumbaya while the world suffers are just as parasitic as these bozos.

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Dan Pasch, Peoria, Az — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:44:27 GMT

To T. comment.
If you hate the united states and Bush so much then why don't you pack your fricken bags and leave. If you think your Democratic Party will protect you from terrorism then please vote for Hillary. If she is elected, the united states as we know it now will be foreve gone. Talk about freedom. She will take it all away plus my money. If you want to pay more in taxes to support the worthless lazy people then get your pen out each payday and write that check to the government. I don't. I want to keep my money. I work two jobs to get it. Unlike your lazy Democrats who want everything for nothing. Chavez must go now take Mr. T with him. What a loser T. is.

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John McDormick, Biloxi, MS — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:47:28 GMT

Finally, a world leader who is not affraid to tell the US: "Go to hell"..."You are not going to tell me what to do" "This is my country and get the hell out of here." "I am not your puppet."
Chavez....a man with real balls!!!!

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Dan Pasch, Peoria, Az — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:48:31 GMT

To D Brooks comments.
How can he say United States is failure. We are the best country in the world. Do we have flaws, yes. Are we perfect. No. If D. Brooks thinks the U.S. is so bad then he must pack his bags and move to either China, North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, just to name a few. He should be happy there since they are much better then the U.S. Please leave now. We don't need people like you living on our great soil. You are a disgusting man.

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HB...Florida — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:53:20 GMT

I remember when Hugo and his gang tried to crash a tank into the (capital) in Caracas and murder the then president Carlos Andres Perez...he barely escaped out the back....lot's of folks got killed..
Hugo went to jail for a few years and a senile old Gent(Caldera)(pres)..pardoned him....

I knew a fellow that fought with Fidel/Che for a spell and he said had he realized their ultimate goal of communism, they would have not participated.
It was too late once Castro had gained his power base to do anything.Commies really believe the end justify the means, and will feed you anything to win their cause.

Most of Hugo's leaders(military) are quite corrupt and many are (killers)...

Unless some patriot down there steps up and stops this guy, things are really going to deteriorate.

Beautiful country, nice folks, with screwed up leadership.

que lastima!

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Jaime Martinez, Orlando, Florida — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:57:25 GMT

Gee . . . Those of european descent oppose Chavez and those of indigeneous bloodlines favor him and this proposed change??? What a surprise! There will always be a great divide in opinion between parties affected in the matter of the subjugation of peoples.

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shawn — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:06:57 GMT

I love Johan Santana

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Anh Hoang, Nashua, NH — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:12:41 GMT

If you are humanity-minded, you are with Hugo Chavez: He fights for the poor people.
If you are just skeptically politics-minded, you are lost in ocean of anti-humanity belief, media, and practice.
Hugo Chavez is a moral person. He's with the poor people!

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Luis, Ontario, Oregon — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:14:43 GMT

Hugo Chavez has caused extreme pain to so many segments of his population. I have heard that Cuba has sent many health care workers to Venzuela because so many doctors and nurses have fled to Columbia. He has seized the property of those who contributed to the everyday business of the country. The middle class is fleeing. I have heard that up to million people have left the country and their families who haven't been able to leave have been persecuted. I have had two friends who were in Venzuela in the past few years and said initially Chavez came across as a friend to the people but is now a horrible fraud and dictator who is capable of the horrors of Mao, Stalin or Hitler. The validation of his first election by Jimmy Carter the worst and most disgusting former US president who has been Anti-US if he can bash our current president. Carter has done a lot to support totalitarian rule in South America by being this far left sympathizer of despots. He is such pitch man for such tyrants as Chavez.

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Marco, Caracas Venezuela — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:15:17 GMT

I was born and raised in Venezuela. I agree that old political parties before Chavez were corrupt too. However, there was never such a social division among Venezuelan citizens. What really bothers me is that my country is going down the drain, and Chavez supporters are still blinded by his tactics. He already changed the constitution in 1999, and he claimed to be the best one in the world. If it was the best in the world, why does he needs to change it?
Certain people in these forum have expressed that he gives heating oil, housing, etc to other countries. Well he does do that, but people here in Venezuela are dying. The roads are full of holes, corruption is all-time high, crimes are an everyday bread, and poverty has increased.
I love my country (Venezuela), but I do not think I could stay here much longer.

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chuck — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:21:53 GMT

Well spoken Glenn Daniels!!!!

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Robo H, Sugarland, TX — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:22:59 GMT

Tony Brown, North Vancouver, CA - Are you absolutely IGNORANT? You obviously don't have a clue about Chavez's motives. The USA (friends to most INTELLIGENT Canadians) continues to put its dedicated men and women in military to keep the whole world safe and free from terrorism. Why don't you do something besides exercise your ignorant mouth and do the same?

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John Doe, Erie, PA — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:30:25 GMT

The people of Venezuela would be wise to vote "no" on this referendum (although I'm not entirely sure that it'll stop Chavez). He's slowly turning into a tyrant, and his plans for the nation are starting to falter.

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simple answer — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:33:07 GMT

There's plenty of oil in the USA and new cars would be able to run on MUCH less or NO gas. If they want to put this A0hole in power, the worst we could do is sit back and let it happen. I think historically, the Venezuela was an ally and I hope out friends aren't crushed by the "THUG" party. This guy will make Venezuela an enemy of the USA in the short term with hopes of the long term. I hope he realizes that we really DON'T need him. Chavez says that if the USA uses its corn for ethanol to power cars, millions would starve, but what does he think our next course of action is? Does he really care?
What the hell is the deal with Sen Kennedy doing commercials for Citgo for our "friends". Chavez owns Citgo! If sharing oil wealth is the cause of poverty in Venezuela, why are we the bad guys? share it you greedy bastsrds. Whoever is running against Chavez would probably win if they demonstrated that they aren't retarded thugs and that they would have a plan for sharing oil wealth with the poor.

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Oscar R. (Torito) — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:39:35 GMT

I am Venezuelam and I totally oppose Chavez; not so much for being socialist, but for being such a mediocre individual. Socialism, moderated, can be a good thing. Look at Canada, look at France, look at Chile and look at Spain.
Chavez says some good things, like the poor needs to be considered. Or that the education needs to be spread amongst the people, or that the oil revenues need to be invested in the people. But all that may sound nice (and believe me, if you listen to this but do not live in Venezuela, sounds perfect) but what he does is totally the oppossite. There are two reasons for this: 1) He's not capable and mediocre 2) his agenda is to retain power no matter what and at any cost. The bad news is he has been able to control all institutions in Venezuela, including the CNE (elections organism); this means that even if the NO wins, the SI will prevail. Just as he has done in the last referendums and elections.
As for the US...I live here in the US and I love the people and the country...but not the government. I believe young Americans do not deserve to be sent around the world into battles and wars (to get killed) that are none of their business. By doing this the Americans get involved in foreign affairs that affect their image (considered by many countries as imperialist, intervensionist and arrogant) and most of all, affect the American families who end up with father-orfaned kids, or with crippled daddies who can't play with them. This may be a simplistic reason but there's a lot more. I just mentioned the tip of the iceberg. The truth is, the US as a super power should use all their influence, persuation and knowledge to pursue peace and well living, not war.
I guess there's no perfect society...
I love Venezuela and I love the US, I just wish the world could be much better without all these conflicts.
Venezuelan's, brothers...VOTE NO TOMORROW!!!!!

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Xela — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:47:46 GMT

Not sure if any of you know how things are in Cuba today. Fidel took over promising all the great things to the poor, but today in Cuba no one works. Why would you work in a country when you know that in life you won't get anywhere? Why would you work for 30 days out of the month and make only $100? Chavez is trying to push all the people with money away in order to persuade the poor. It's law from life for the working man to make money of the rich (e.g. working in their factories, properties, etc) from where would the working class survive if not from the well-establish class. It is a symbiotic circle. The government is not going to make the poor rich...why would they? By keeping them poor they are easily persuaded, yet all the riches from the country will go to the government (e.g. Chavez) by then who do you think will have the last word? The people...think again!

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Doug Cap — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:48:02 GMT

Chavez stays in power because of the price of oil. The price of oil is $100/barrel because the US gov't failed to take real action to eliminate oil imports during the past 30 years since the oil embargo. We import more than half the oil we consume. If we didn't import any, the price of oil would be half what it is and Chavez would see his income cut in half. The US subsidizes all the oil country dictators (and gets into wars) because of a lack of leadership that would make us truly independent. Chavez got his foothold due to gross inequity between rich and poor, and has helped the poor with better health care. This gives him their support for life, no matter what else he does. The ballot is hilarious - "Would you like a 25% increase in hourly wage? If so, vote for the elimination of term limits." What a joke. He's almost as dishonest as Bush/Cheney.

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ms boo boo, brooklyn, ny — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:49:29 GMT

It's interesting to read the comments of those who have lived in Venezuela. My main source of information about Chavez was the documentary "The Revolution will not be Televised" which portrayed the days leading up to and following the coup. Chavez made sure everyone, even the poorest knew their constitution, unlike many even educated people here in the US., and they chose who they thought would best represent their interests, not a member of the ruling elite that had been exploiting them for generations but one of their own, Chavez. The attempts by the privately owned media to discredit and violently overthrow him (assisted by the US) were resisted and defeated by an informed and determined populace. It was a real triumph for democracy.
I don't blame Chavez for jailing dissident journalists who have been calling for the president's assassination. They would be jailed for that here too. There is that old adage though about absolute power corrupting absolutely and I sincerely hope that he won't go that route and stay true to ideals and doesn't manage to convince himself that denying his people their rights is done "for their own good". It would be sad.

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Anonymous, Safe, out of Venezuela — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:54:54 GMT

Like others here, I too have lived in Venezuela. I am married to a Venezuelan woman, own property there and have Venezuelan citizenship.

In Venezuela, my wife and I worked extensively with the poor, lived quite modestly in a predominantly Venezuelan village. We had no foreign neighbours and few other foreigners in the village.

Something I sincerely believe must be cleared up about Hugo Rafael Chavez Frias, he is not what he seems. Many belive him to be the champion of the left, the hope of mankind. Well many consider me to be quite left in my ideology and perhaps I am. From that perspective please listen when I tell you of a flawed, seriously flawed, man.

Chavez does indeed see and speak to serious issues, he sees inequities and he sees injustices. I believe my opinion of Bush is lower than his opinion, we have no argument there. There has been, and continued to be rampant exploitation of Venezuela by the oil companies. Those "Ranchitos" surrounding Caracas are so telling especially when you know their complete name, "Rockefeller Ranchitos"... Yes Rockefeller of Standard Oil, the Gringo who arrived with the promise of every Venezuelan having their own ranch.

There are many things wrong with Venezuela and the class seperation is a strong part of what is wrong. The middle class was growing, but it had a long way to go. Many of our friends lived in tin shacks without plumbing, there can be no denying that.

But Chavez for all his vision has a serious flaw. First he simply does not have the skill set necessary to administer the government effectively and far too much pride to accept help. His military method of commanding compliance is simply unsuited for the democratic process. His total inability to accept even mild dissension and disagreement leads to irrational acts which are perceived as madness. As a statesman he is an abject failure, worse even than Bush if that can be believed!

We still support our family that remains behind and we dream of the day when we can get them out as well. Getting funds to them is a convoluted process that I cannot describe here for fear the route might be cut off. We hear daily of the shortages that Chavez's inept management has caused. Staples, milk, flour, butter, eggs.

Shortages in a country that is obscenely rich from oil? How can that be? Let me take one example that we have personal knowledge of... Wheat flour. Venezuela had their own mills, they bought the wheat internationally and then milled it in Venezuela.

Buying it is the key. The Bolivar, the currency of Venezuela, is worthless outside of Venezuela. Walk into a currency exchange on a neighboring island, Trinidad or Curacao with a stack of Bolivars and you will be refused.

You see the Bolvar has an artificially low exchange rate set by Chavez. So no one exchanges officially. Unoffically, black market, the exchange rate is quite a bit higher... currently about double.... But that is first illegal, second risky, and third you lose with the fee charged.

So the millers could not buy the wheat to mill.

This cycle repeats with variations... Chicken, Chavez mandated a fixed price per kilo for chicken. Now chicken is a cottage industry in Venezuela. No meddling inspectors and government interference, you simply fenced of a portion of your yard and started raising chickens. You made a modest survival income and your neighbors enjoyed fresh chicken.

But when Chavez mandated a price so low that you could not afford to feed the chickens you were raising? Well you stopped raising chickens. And for a few weeks your neighbors had an abundance of chicken as you sold off your entire flock at a loss.

Oh the government will step in... like they did with the wheat flour... but for the life of me I do not know where the government got that flour they provided, it was so old the gluten was nonexistent, there was no elastacity and it WOULD NOT RISE!

Crime... and this is what finally drove us out, I am simply too fair skinned and it made my wife and I targets. Well why would one not expect crime when the president of the country goes on nationwide television and declares it is not a crime to steal if you are hungry?

His words, I speak spanish fluently and I was watching when he said it. And we have experience with hunger, we never hesitated to share our meager food with others less fortunate, there are always extra plates at our table and neither my wife or myself will hesitate to dive into the pantry and fill a sack or two for someone in need. We always knew God would provide us what we needed.

But what Chavez did was he officially sanctioned stealing... and I can guarantee you most who are stealing have a hunger all right, but it is not a hunger for rice and beans.

I could go on and on... but I believe I have said enough... And sorry about the being anonymous, but we still have family there and we are concerned for them. I would never want my big moputh to cause my family suffering, but something really needs to be said about this charade, this fake, Hugo Rafael Chavez Frias. He truly is not the poor man's hero so many of you think he is. We know.

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Rafael Frances, Moonachie, NJ — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:01:15 GMT

I feel very sory for Venezuela and the Venezuelan people!
Mr. Chavez is only a copycat of Fidel Castro, but worse, because at least Mr. Castro is an educated and undoubtely very smart lawyer, while Chavez is an ineducated and unmannered ignorant.
Of course that he will win the referendum, one way or another, and who knows what stupid things he will do in the near future, but for sure, none of them will be good for the human kind.

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Brian, SLC, Utah — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:01:16 GMT

To Inez from Portugal....why dont you move to Venezuela then? You sound like the type of person Chavez will pay off for supporting him. This vote will be rigged tomorrow. Things are going to get very interesting. An upheaval will be necessary to turn things around.

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c koehl washington Il. — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:04:38 GMT

Hey Phelps. Your hateful rhetoric shows a lot more about you than anything else.
Why dontyou move down there and see if you could spout that kind of hateful drivel about Chevez and his henchmen.

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Jay Pinckard, Round Rock TX — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:04:39 GMT

Chavez is another petty tyrant, plain and simple.
Contrary to what some might think, he is not the answer to Venezuela,s social problems. The citizens there will figure this out before sometime, I would wish. Perhaps the good citizens of Venezuela need someone to do their thinking for them and to push them in some direction or another, the efficacy of which this writer has doubts. By now it is becoming patently obvious that they and others in the world (including the USA) have some problems understanding the role of Democracy.
One should consider that perhaps their brand of Democracy hasn't worked for them becuse it is an ersatz form of Democracy; how else could a clown such as this Chavez gain power???
A thoughtful individual can't help and consider why
Democracy supposedly does not work for the citizens of Venezuela. Democracy is not perfect but it is the best there is, as has been said by someone more astute than I.
Liberty is quite heady and and sometimes not easily managed by those who are not used to managing it.
I take Democracy in a split second over Chavez type of government. Pricious Liberty forever!!

A vote of ‘Si' or ‘No’ in Venezuela

Tacoma — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:05:08 GMT

Chavez is just using the same techniques as all power hungry demagogues: scaring the hell out of the general public with lies and distortion in order to keep them off balance and to maintain power....mmmm Chavez is just following George W Bush's playbook

A vote of ‘Si' or ‘No’ in Venezuela

Sal, PA — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:07:30 GMT

A message to the Venezuela people.... Don't buy this Dictator's baloney! He is making you look like you don't know how to think for yourselves! Do not allow him to take unlimited power.

He is attempting to use oil as a tool.... Guess what?! In no time, the low grade Venezuela oil will not be needed and then what?! Chaves is out of control and acting like somebody stole his bag of candy.

USA and Venezuela had a good relationship until this guy came to power.