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john florida — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:25:15 GMT

Interesting article, but i don't understand how Polar bear numbers are and have been on the increase for the past 20 plus years and yet we are told that they could be all gone by the end of the century???You show us a picture of a mother with two cubs which is a good litter that look like they are in great shape and report that biologists say "they are smaller and are having fewer cubs"???? Oh by the by four foot thick ice will hold a fully loaded TRACTOR TRAILER (80,000 lbs) so i imagine it should hold a couple of UNDER WEIGHT BEARS without any problems at all as long as they don't put on any weight. why is this global warming being sold to as so hard??it seems like if we don't buy in before we have time to think we won't buy in at all.If all the people really pushing it did not make a living off it(global warming) it might be easier to take. If we can get off oil i think the rest will fall into place. As for the bears i think it's ALL BULL THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE ANY TIME SOON.

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Linda Crofts, Helena, MT — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:43:29 GMT

I stubled upon your blog quite by accident, but look forward to an update.

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dm — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:44:49 GMT

the polar bear is going to have to adapt to survive just like any other animal would. smaller bears and less numbers are the polar bear's way of surviving when there is a food shortage. i'm sure if there was an abundance of food you would be seeing bigger bears and more population. this is just nature's way whether we're responsible for global warming or not is irrevelant. this isn't a situation where humans are taking their environment its a weather change natural to the earth. for all we know bears have been fluxuating in size and numbers since their existence. i think its just a part of survival. its a shame though cause they are absolutely beautiful animals. we didnt put them on our money for nothing.

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Lynda Duke, El Paso, Tx — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:08:38 GMT

The polar bears population may be up, as the warmth of the season lengthens, but as the article says, they are having fewer babies due to a lack of food during an important period of their growth. Its not bull, as Glacier Park is losing its glaciers faster than we can build a new car. I have always thought its not possible, but its happening and we can't ignore that. I say we need to desalinate the ocean water that is available to us(especially in the southeast and western coast lines), and then return the salt to the poles that may help to hold water up there longer. Salt retains water. Its just an idea, but it could work. But more importantly, we must do more to recycle and waste less. We need to fight the corporations that are spewing pollutants in the air, to help heal the problem. Lets be a part of the solution, not part of the problem.

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Concerned Geologist - Wyoming — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:30:38 GMT

Even though you were told "science doesn't work that way" you still plug "global warming".
Yes, it's getting warmer - that usually happens at the end of both a major and a minor ice age. It is still cooler than during the very recent (geologically) optimum.
In the 70's it was the coming ice age. Now it is global warming. Gore sells carbon credits to himself and spends more each month than I do in 2 years for electric. "Do as I say, not as I do"??
Do a little research. Study the geologic past. Find out the truth behind global warming and the plans the UN has for our economy.

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Jared, Denver, CO — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:25:46 GMT

Nice post. I am glad to see you were willing to say that the scientist on board corrected what seems to be a knee jerk reaction by the media to blame any weather phenomenon on global warming. "It's warm, cold, windy, cloudy, stormy, drought, floods, snow, rain, hail...It must be global warming". What we used to call weather is now always a sign of global warming.
What an amazing trip. I can't wait to read more posts. The bears look beautiful, and from what I read, their populations are rising. I think they will adapt to this climate change as they have to others in the past.
Was Lynda serious about desalinization and shipping the salt to the arctic because "salt retains water"? I love that we let people who missed chemistry participate in the global warming debate! Ha!

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john — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:28:42 GMT

hey anyone want to buy some carbon offsets so I can join Al Gore in the private jet club....Global Warming ....please.

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spears tx — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:34:53 GMT

mS. dUKE, And how do you propose we get the salt to the poles?? tie little bags under the birds' wings? Even the Carbon fools will tell you shipping a billion tons of salt tto the poles will spew more "pollutants" into the air than the salt can cure... whata Marrooooon!!!

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Alex Carll, Carrboro, NC — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:43:15 GMT

These two points are the most startling of all:

(AP) Scientists have observed cannibalism among polar bears for the first time. They believe this is occurring because shorter ice seasons are reducing the availability of food. http://www.usatoday.com/weather/research/2006-06-13-polar-bear-cannibalism_x.htm

Some scientists have projected that Arctic ice may completely melt during the summer of 2050 (re-freezing in the fall). http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21343575/

Additionally, this year artic ice was melting to levels originally projected for 2050 under more conservative models than that predicting the complete summertime meltdown.
http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/08/23/arctic-will-melt-to-projected-2050-levels-this-year/

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Mike, Long Island, NY — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:46:41 GMT

-John in Florida, Just as the article states that you can't make conclusions from a single day's weather, you can't make conclusions from a single bear and her cubs. Overall the Arctic ice is shrinking and bears need ice to live. Governments including our own have been racing to put in place international agreements covering how this newly accessible seafloor should be used, as well as who has shipping rights over the newly accessible sea lanes. They wouldn't be doing this if they didn't expect the ice to continue to shrink.
Oh yeah, how do propose that the people who study the environment should be telling us what they find if they can't make a living off of the research? No one is going to do anything for free and these people need to eat and pay taxes just like the rest of us. And they would probobly make just as much money telling us that everything is fine. They get paid for doing research after all, not for being shocking.

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Steve — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:54:18 GMT

I am amazed at the response some people have to the global warming crisis without even THINKING about what they are saying. For example, the lady from Texas who suggests that we SALT the poles to increase the amount of water there because salt retains water and somehow that translates into more ice.

This is exactly the type of unthinking response people are having to the idea of global warming all over the country. They claim we must take immediate and drastic measures without regard to the cost, in order to prevent the collapse of the known world to combat something that has been occuring over thousands of years. They call it science yet cannot honestly quantify any relationship. (ie: if we reduce our carbon emissions by X amount, it will slow the progress of warming by Y rate.) Why is that? Can modern science really not find that equation? Are people afraid to admit how little we are actually affecting the climate? How come as some of this glacial ice is melting, we are finding artifacts UNDER the ice? Perhaps in a similar previous cycle (even before the evil of SUV's) there wasn't ice there?

I am not claiming that the earth is not warming. Nor am I claiming that humans have zero effect on the rate of that warming. However, I would think it behooves us to figure these things out before we initiate knee jerk reactions that cost gazillions of dollars with little effect...or worse, we cause more harm than good.

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Alex Carll, Carrboro, NC — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:59:18 GMT

Sorry, Lynda, but adding salt to the poles after desalination is a bad idea. Adding salt to water decreases the temperature at which water freezes. This would increase the rate at which the ice melts, and decrease the rate at which ocean water freezes. This is why we use road salt during icy weather.
Impacting the salinity of the Arctic ocean would require more salt than humans can produce. Not to mention, a major increase in greenhouse gases would occur because desalination is a highly energy expensive action.

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LC, Colorado Springs, CO — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:14:17 GMT

Although I like the fact that Lynda Duke is thinking outside the box in ways to help preserve the ice caps of the artic, maybe, being from Texas she doesn't realize that salt actually MELTS ice.

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Rasputin O'Brien, Portland, Maine — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:38:10 GMT

salt lowers the freezing temperature of water to 28 deg. More salt woulg make less ice. Nice thought though.

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james winney — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:08:30 GMT

i think any voyage that brings attention to the warming north pole is worth it. i have just 1 question to those people who dont believe global warming is here - if the ice at the north & south poles has been there for so long & now is melting at a very quick pace - what is causing it if not people?

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alex, michigan — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:17:43 GMT

mankinds existence, plotted out on a timeline of the earths existence, would be thinner than a human hair. although the planet is getting warmer, it is impossible to know our role in this completely. scientists in ohio recently took an ice core measuring 1,000 feet. this accounted for only 130,000 years. scientists estimate the earth to be 4.5 BILLION years old. do the math. the planet is up to something, and does not require our involvement, nor our permission to continue on.

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Modesto, CA — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:23:12 GMT

I've done quite a bit of research and am quite confused about the actual "facts" and effects - if you read the science reports it actually tells you that the models they are using for predictions aren't adequate or accurate. That's like having medical tests that are inconclusive. Just like other animals maybe we too will have to adjust to a new environment instead of clinging to what we have. We've come a long way since the Native Americans roamed this land and learned to migrate for the seasons etc. Haste makes waste and money for a few that they suck from us - remember chicken little, the War of the Worlds broadcast, why should we believe them now - I want solid proof not guesstimations.

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Joe, Dallas — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:25:07 GMT

Kudos to Lynda Duke from El Paso, TX for realizing that we have a serious problem and for thinking about it. Most Texans are insulated from reality, and I know a lot of them. If thousands of the world's top scientists think that there is global warming, and only few right wing nuts disagree, it seems pretty obvious that we actually have a real problem folks.

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George Bush, DC — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:36:21 GMT

Everything is fine. Global warming was a mistake. You all may now go back to sleep now.

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D. Davis — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:41:36 GMT

Please note that the lady everyone is slamming for her dumb comments about the salt, sea and ice is from EL PASO, TX---that is desert country. Do we think she is "ice smart"? Think about it.

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Dan, Kansas City — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:01:36 GMT

That's cool. I didn't know you guys were still on the air. I mean, other than infomercials. Who are the polar bears voting for? Are they going to move up their primary? Do you support the slaughter of innocent ring seals by the evil polar bears? What's a carbon credit? Does a carbon credit taste like toast?

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nick, walled lake, mi — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:02:30 GMT

bad attitude john florida. all the facts are in, and yet you still take the side of the nay sayers? They have admitted why they don't believe. They don't because global warming will increase their taxes and regulations. Two things conservatives hate. So why do you still not believe? How long and what more facts do you need? If you don't believe all the scientists now, you never will. 4 foot thick ice is enough to support a tractor? man, you just don't get it do you?

instead of wondering why global warming is being sold so hard, wonder why the opposition is pushing back so hard.

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nick, walled lake, mi — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:08:56 GMT

folks! they have proven that cutting down trees, and car emmissions, and depleting the ozone have warmed the earth and it is happening at a fevered pace. we need to do what the scientists advise us to do or suffer the consequences. People in countries all over the world are already suffering. It just hasen't hurt us yet because we are spoiled. And if you have really seen all the facts, there is no doubt we are causing this. China and India are now polluting on America's level. Did you all think that was ok? And I doubt any of you nay sayers have seen all the facts. If you have, then you could not seriously be a doubter anymore. Your arguments are coming from the pollutors. They put the doubts out there for the lame to swallow. Start watching planet in peril or any of those global warming documentaries, like Gore's. I'll bet none of you people that deny human's are the cause have seen Gore's movie.

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nick, walled lake, mi — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:11:09 GMT

meanwhile Canada and Russia are fighting over who is going to "own" the North Pole. They think there is oil there so they want to be the first to plant their flags. We are doomed!!!
Even if we get everyone in America to agree, we still have to convince Russia, China and India.

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SeanD, Philadelphia PA — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:25:59 GMT

I do believe that over the past few hundred million years that there have been WIDE swings in temperature. The earth was hotter during the age of dinosaurs, the earth was cooler during the ice ages. What's a few degrees here or there? Maybe, just maybe, the earth is supposed to be a bit warmer than it currently is. I think that there has been a bit too much generalization and inferences on the past 50-75 years somewhat reliable data.

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SAMMAS SAMMAS SAMMAS — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:36:18 GMT

POPULATION CONTROL WORLD WIDE IS THE ANSWER. HERES THE LOGIC: LESS MAN LESS IMPACT. PRETTY SIMPLE EQUATION.

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G.B. Florida — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:40:24 GMT

When I was seven (1934), I read that a hotel in Switzerland built in 1840 was closing because the glacier it was built to view had disappeared. Doesn't that mean the climate was warming long before the huge use of fossil fuels ?

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ScottW, Marquette Mi — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:10:45 GMT

The Great Lakes are lower in depth creating problems for shipping boats to carry YOUR goods to the department stores so that you can consume more garbage. Then you can place all of that in your motor vehicle then continue to drive a hour to the burbs where you contributed to Urban Sprawl. Where the neighborhoods took out forest and wetlands, and displaced other animals.

-Homosapiens are to blame for all the worlds problems. And will continue this way. Until something extreme happens to change our way of life.
-Think Globally

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Dan, Douglas, Arizona — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:13:27 GMT

I have read all your comments. I truly don't know the truth or the answer to this situation. I do know one thing though. We had better start thinking more seriously about it. If we get it wrong, the whole world will pay the price. Maybe it is time that we stopped screaming at each other and really tried to get unbiased information for a change. Al Gore has brought attention to this, but I wish he wasn't profiting so much from his point of view. If he is correct, he has certainly lost a lot of credibility with the way he lives. Just because a person can afford to buy credits to offset a lifestyle that he himself claims hurts the planet does not excuse the lifestyle nor does it make it right. Also it wouldn't hurt anyone on the planet to clean up their own act a little bit. We have become a world where material things matter far too much. Better get this one right!!!!!

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Doug - redmond , Wa — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:15:51 GMT

I would like to know how much money someone could make hollering "global warming". For any "natural occurrence" or "we're too small to make a difference the planet goes through cycles”, why did we cut out fluorocarbons? And is cutting out waste really all that bad of a thing to do? If, lets say we cut down our emissions and save a few bucks along the way and we don’t get massive climate change the downside would be what? But on the other hand we popeycock the whole global change thing and throw our recyclables in the trash and leave the lights on and let the water run from the hose just to piss off the neighbors, and the climate goes to hell in a handbasket, then what? We just say oops! I guess you were right “my bad”.

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Holden — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:24:35 GMT

hey nick , if you ate what Gore fed ya , i have some swamp land down here in the bayou for sale! political tool is all global warming is , dems create situations , ignoring real issues for the most part.
!! stick n move ... stick n move!!

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Holden — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:26:05 GMT

scott , live your words... dont procreate!!

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Al Gore, Seattle, WA. — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:40:33 GMT

I can't resist, i have to comment on that one. Shipping salt to the poles? OK, so lets see; use a oil or coal fired plant to desalinate the water, than haul it to the poles by huge tankers that burn more oil than the desalination plant, than spread it out there with a grass seed spreader? Kudos for thinking outside the box? Hey, I got a better idea: Maybe Al Gore could cut a deal with Gatorade to ship electrolytes out there, that will hold more water.
Bwahahahaha.......

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JBurt, Milford,NJ — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:42:44 GMT

Here is the real problem for the average person to overcome; Who do we believe? There are just as many so called experts on both sides of the global warming debate that even well meaning specialists are having a hard time being heard or believed. Yes the process of global warming seems to have escalated since the Age of Industrialization but that is not conclusive either because obviously the ice age of the dinosaurs and a catistrophic end also. There is no prove they died out over a period of time. Who do you believe anymore? Everyone seems to have an agenda and yes scientists on both sides of the question are earning a living at it so that isn't an indicator either.

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JBurt, Milford,NJ — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:45:51 GMT

To Doug from redmond, wa, there are alot of people making tons of money by creaming "global warming" Al Gore has a private plane and an estate for having done so. Look how much he makes on his speaking tours. That doesn't mean there aren't well meaning truly concerned individuals out there also nor does it mean we sholdn't cut out waste wherever possible. We seems to be using faster than the world can replenish. That really is the key.

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Dann, Milwaukee, WI — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:53:55 GMT

Yep, humans are the problem - let's eliminate them and then the earth will be 'perfect'!

Al Gore is a hyperbolic wind-bag who is reaping huge benefits from his propaganda. And scientists exaggerate and shock precisely because the worry and fear they spread leads to massive spending by governments and it's the researchers that benefit.

Let's see, I've been around for the dire predictions of our demise from overpopulation, a new ice age, the ozone 'hole', bird flu, on and on, and now it's global warming - it's all just the fear du jour to con us out of more and more money to give to researchers, universities, and bureaucrats.

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Leo, Windsor, Ontario, Canada — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:11:41 GMT

Whatever the reasons may be, it would be a very good thing for all of the developed world to learn to live more efficiently and to leave as small a footprint as possible on our planet. Ours is an intelligent species, but we need to suppress our materialism and appreciate the true value of our planet - something which is not found amongst its finite resources.

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Motivated from AL — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:12:24 GMT

The bottom line is we simply MUST get off of fossil fuels. That’s it. Problems solved. The other problem is of over crowding the planet with people. There just simply isn’t enough room to comfortably support everybody. We are stressing the planet flora and fauna as well as stressing each other with so many billions and the materials needed to sustain everyone.

The US should recognize that green energy, living and sustainability are THE NEXT dot.com type boom. Lets get on board and do it if not for the planet and our fellow humans then for simple, good ol’ fashioned American motivation; that being GREED!

Why are we letting Japan and other nations take away this planet saving and wallet fattening opportunity? The US is being left behind! What’s up with the fools in our auto industry?

Let’s get off the fossil fuels to protect our children from having to fight wars against terrorism. Let’s take the money and power away from those who would destroy our children and our lifestyles by blowing up their own children in public places. The governments and extremists of the Middle East are fat and spoiled from our dependence. We have whored ourselves out and now we are being gang raped by the countries that have big oil. Even our own oil companies are raping their own people.

We need a Manhattan project on sustainable energy. Vote, people! Raise hell to your congressmen!

And, Al Gore using credits to offset his “carbon footprint” is like a fat person burning 300 calories in the gym only to eat 300 calories of ice cream later that day. No progress has been made.

Finally, leave the poor gal from Texas alone. Our president came from Texas and he is the pillar of high education. If Bush can be the pres. then she can send sea salt to the poles.

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Deb S, Broadlands, VA — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:13:54 GMT

Doug, I read all the posts and yours hits the nail. What is there to lose from being responsible for a change...let's see:

More trees to clean the air thus less pollution to breathe: Oh, that's right we like to hack and cough and die from lung cancer. We especially love paying for our children's asthma prescriptions. Who needs goddamn trees, anyway. Afterall, they are big sticks which don’t provide shade from the hot sun, color in the fall, or shelter from the wind. Screw em!

More wetlands/protected watersheds to filter the water: Oh! I forgot! We *love* the full-bodied flavor of chemically-enhanced chlorinated tap water! And after all…it’s so much cheaper to just pay our cities tens of thousands of dollars each year to “clean” the water, so that we can buy bottled water, just so we can fill in wetlands to build yet *another* 50% occupied strip mall or vinyl-village housing sect.

Reduced trash: That’s right, we love large stinking, rat infested garbage piles the size of small towns. It’s so much better than a lovely meadow with singing larks and spring peeps. Who gives a damn about mother nature, anyway? She does *nothing* for us, right? (I’ve always said, we would never have gotten here if they’d dubbed the earth “father nature.” It’s only because we made the earth “mother” and proclaimed it “female” that we continue to exploit, abuse, and disregard it. However, like any good mother…she *will* eventually give us a nice reminder who is really in charge.) Again, screw her! I’ll drive my big assed SUV right over her beautiful grasses and piss on her flowers. What do*I* care!

So for those of you who fail to understand that without regard to the Al Gore’s of the world, we *do* have an impact on our natural resources. Frankly, it doesn’t matter *if* or *that* Global Warming is going to lead to the end of mankind anytime soon. I want to enjoy the earth I live on now and I want my children, grandchildren, et al to have clean air, clean water, and a beautiful mountains and trees to visit…and *NOT* in a museum. I’d also like to look them in the eye and know that I wasn’t a self possessed idiot who only thinks as far as then end of his/her nose. Responsibility pays off for everyone, including your ignorant, selfish asses!

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LeeD, Cary, NC — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:20:23 GMT

Let's see - seals give birth on the ice because it's between them and the land and polar bears hunt the seals on the ice because that's where the seals are. If the ice melts, seals will have to give birth on land and bears can hunt seals on land. So, lack of ice will cause the bears to walk shorter distances to eat seals. Seems to me that the bears win - not so?

Also, cannibalism has been reported any number of times in bears, lions, etc (watch the old science channel shows. Males especially will eat cubs in hopes the female will go into heat again - not just polar bears, but brown, black, grizzly, etc. Same with lions. Heck, even squirrels will occasionally eat another squirrel's young as a source of protein to pass along to their own young.

Let's all get hysterical, march around in a circle while pointing outward and singing kumbaya.

Bugs Bunny was right - "what a bunch of maroons"

Want to help deal with overpopulation? Well, you could always offer yourself up as the first sacrifice to the cause...

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Kim Moore Groveport, Ohio — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:23:48 GMT

Ok this is how I see it. Nobody knows anything for sure as to what is causing global warming (although I personally believe it is caused by human activity). We just all for the most part can agree it is happening. This is the part that kills me, there isn't one person on earth that can prove or disprove what is causing global warming and be 100 percent certain or at least come up with enough evidence to convince the naysayers we've got to do something. So what do we do? Sit on our hands and wait and see what happens, make excuses and arguments as to why we think we are right and the others are wrong. If we use the wait and see what happens approach it may be too late to reverse the effects. What do we do when it's too late? Hang our heads down in shame, make more excuses and hope for the best? Regardless of global warming we're exhausting earth's resources. We're running out of oil. We need to come to a form of enlightenment as a whole in society and work towards a solution. I know it's easier said than done but the answer is not going to fall out of the sky, people need to get their heads out of their rear ends and stop being the mindless sheep that we've become when it comes to these matters. I am by no means what one would refer to as a tree hugging hippie, but I am an educated person that can think for myself and it doesn't take a ph.d to realize we're in trouble.

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JJ — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:32:13 GMT

Scientific studies dating back over the last 100 years show that the human carbon footprint is less than 1/100th of a percent of the Earth's carbon footprint. One volcano puts out more carbon emissions than we could put out in 50 years. The ozone layer is actually smaller now then it was 100 years ago. The warming is caused by an expansion cycle of the sun. It is natural for stars, like the sun, to go through expansion and contraction cycles. It has been this way since the beginning of time. Wake up people.

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Margaret Chinery, Metuchen N.J. — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:36:27 GMT

I believe the industrialization of the world is exsaserbating a natural phenomenon at a rate faster than mother earth can handle, she needs our help to get back in balance. Even if you don't believe in global warming what harm can it to to be environmentally concious. Also there is a much more urgent threat to the world, nuclear weapons in the hands of loose cannons. If we don't deal with that first this debate dosen't mean much.

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T.S., GA — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:57:38 GMT

Oh come on!! Am I the only that remembers Al Gore saying he invented the internet? He was blasted on every news station and talk show for being so dumb! I'm not saying I don't believe that global warming is a serious problem, but believe in Al Gore?????? That's really a stretch.

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Lloyd — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:00:02 GMT

Why will Gore not have a debate with sientists that dis agree with him. Why not a debate over several nights on TV and let every one watch and make up their minds.

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LM Bellevue, WA — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:00:48 GMT

I agree with sammas. Population control is the answer.

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Morgan Harman PHD, Chicago IL — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:07:12 GMT

Polar Bears are one of the most highly adaptable predators on the planet; I should know I studied them for almost 32 years. Contrary to the now popular thought process, Polar Bears very rarely have drowned. They are highly capable of changing foraging areas to any change in their food supply. They have been seen swimming the Bearing Sea to Russia when food supply had been reduced due to man made and/or natural circumstances.

The fact that certain Bears look smaller or are having a reduced amount of cubs is nature’s way of controlling the largest and most powerful predator that walks this planet, you see there are no natural predators for the Polar Bear, with the exception of man. So we have seen this happen before, when the bear population got to large, mother nature reduces it through natural selection to make sure that the others don’t starve, or the natural food supply isn’t decimated by the bears themselves.

Global Warming fanatics should quit using the Polar Bear as one of their main measuring sticks for their beliefs; it is just making them look foolish,

Morgan Harman PHD
Former Director Artic Mammals Studies

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don — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:10:00 GMT

Please save our planet! We've got to join forces and not let the "health of the economy" be the first priority. It will be short lived at the expense of the health and welfare of future generations to come.

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Jim, KC — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:46:05 GMT

The whole issue is business guys. Forget global warming for 1-1-1 second. Make it cheaper/less fuel intensive/easier and people will do it. Forget whether it is or isn't global warming. Make it easier for me to not pay $3 a gallon at the tank. Why don't you who hath now complained go study chemistry and figure a way to NOT do these things you ask, ie burn fuels, make it easier for me to not throw things into the trash but rather put them in a bin or recycle in-house? Let's make everyone else change??? Good luck. You have seen the debt issue right, it will get better huh? Oh and the green party? Who??? Pollution? Getting better right? People, fix it, stop complaining. The world doesn't owe you a living/welfare/pollution free society, you are demanding it. You are smart go fix it. Reading and spamming these things won't make it any better, maybe like 100 years from now after "it's happened" according to y'all. I'm tired of sides I don't care either way (global warming in my eyes is a form of population control), but you have to do something other than lobby about it. Make it business savvy(Republicans) AND make it environmentally feasible(Dems) and it will happen. I'm saying you're smart, these are the goals, go for it. AND by the way email me so I can invest in your new company :) LOL

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Diana Lejins, Long Beach, CA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:50:28 GMT

Wonderful article!
As a Sierra Club member and environmentalist, I often hear people debunking the possibility of global warming. My answer to them is this: Whether or not global warming is a fact is not so important. What is more of a concern and that no one can deny is that all of the toxins that we are putting into the environment cannot be good for the planet and the creatures that share it with us. It certainly can't be healthy for humans.
We must take better care of this earth, if not for ourselves, for future generations. What sort of legacy will we leave them?

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Esther Burien. — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:51:48 GMT

John in Florida, Have you considered that the polar bear population increase could be due to the fact the shooting them for hides etc. could account for the increase? Samas Samas Samas Right on overpopulation is the bigest problem facing our world. (war,poverty destruction of our forests etc, would decrease if we could just get a handle on the rampant growth of humans on earth. Alex in Michigan You made an error in redundancy...continue means to go on you did not need to add "on" to "continue."

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J F Belk — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:52:43 GMT

There is no such thing as a carbon credit. You either use the carbon or you don't. It's just one more "good intention" which by the way line the road to hell. It's a feel good throw out to the world saying I really care but I'm so special you want me to live in this manner. Britney Spears and carbon credits are now hard science...

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dick whitt houston tx. — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:53:25 GMT

oh well......time for a cocktail

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Mike S - Colorado — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:54:18 GMT

Hey Sammas and ScottW are you still there? I hope you haven't acted on your "convictions." Maybe you just meant other people shouldn't be here. Darn homosapiens! Hey Sammas, if we don't have time to wait for the very "simple equation" of world-wide population control, how about genocide, murder, war and suicide to get rid of the source of all the world's problems? Maybe you guys would just favor more passive means like poorer nutrition, fewer hospitals, less education, more pandemics. I think that all you mean is that (now that we are here) lets close the door behind us and prevent other peoples' children who have never polluted anything from existing. We aren't a problem, and neither are our children. We are the reason a solution matters.

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MS, Indianapolis, In — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:59:35 GMT

Doug, I read all the posts and yours hits the nail on the head. Way to Go! What is there to lose from being responsible for a change...let's see:

More trees to clean the air thus less pollution to breathe: Oh, that's right we like to hack and cough and die from lung cancer. We especially love paying for our children's asthma prescriptions. Who needs those darn trees, anyway. Afterall, they are big sticks which don’t provide shade from the hot sun, color in the fall, or shelter from the wind.

More wetlands/protected watersheds to filter the water: Oh! I forgot! We *love* the full-bodied flavor of chemically-enhanced chlorinated tap water! And after all…it’s so much cheaper to just pay our cities tens of thousands of dollars each year to “clean” the water, so that we can buy bottled water, just so we can fill in wetlands to build yet *another* 50% occupied strip mall or vinyl-village housing sect.

Reduced trash: That’s right, we love large stinking, rat-infested garbage piles the size of small towns. It’s so much better than a lovely meadow with singing larks and spring peeps. Who gives a darn about mother nature, anyway? She does *nothing* for us, right? (I’ve always said, we would never have gotten here if they’d dubbed the earth “father nature.” It’s only because we made the earth “mother” and proclaimed it “female” that we continue to exploit, abuse, and disregard it. However, like any good mother…she *will* eventually give us a nice reminder who is really in charge.) We love to drive our gas-guzzling SUV's right over her beautiful grasses and trample the flowers. What do we care! Right?

So for those of you who fail to understand that, without regard to the Al Gore’s of the world, we *do* have an impact on our natural resources. Frankly, it doesn’t matter *if* or *that* Global Warming is going to lead to the end of mankind anytime soon. Some of us want to enjoy the earth we live on now and we want our children, grandchildren, et al to have clean air, clean water, and a beautiful mountains and trees to visit…and *NOT* in a museum. We’d also like to look them in the eye and know that we were not the self possessed ones who only think as far as then end of his/her nose. Responsibility pays off for everyone, including ignorant, selfish people!

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Amy, Miami, Florida — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:01:12 GMT

Just because a person is from Texas doesn't mean they know nothing about ice and salt. I'm a highschool senior in FLORIDA and even I know that salt reduces the temperature that water needs to freeze.
Look, I'm not saying anyone here is dumb, but the guy who said he was our president needs to pull his face out of his behind and DO something instead of wasting his and our time spewing sarcasm on some random blog.
In Cali they have an amazing system, and place signs about conserving and anti-pollution everywhere you go. I think we can ALL cut down on emissions if we implement a plan like that: reminding the public (GENTLY, NOT PROPAGANDA-LIKE with AL GORE) as much as possible that EVERY person is a drop of water, and every drop of water fills the bukcet higher.

This "saving the world in 200 days" crud is stupid, ludicrous and next-to-impossible. Even if we start today, the effects wouldn't be seen for decades, even centeries. There IS NO QUICK FIX! But we can at least get the ball rolling, can't we?

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Ben Cuddy, Franklin Ohio — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:05:43 GMT

Look up James it is called the sun.

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Country Boy Ms — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:07:13 GMT

hey Nick in Walled Lake MI,John in Fl got it right,you are very miss informed.There are no facts as to why the earth is warming. There are more historical facts to support that this is a natural cycle,than a man made problem. Mother nature is called Mother for a reason, she is in control,not man...what will be,will be as it has always been. Al Gore and his his small following of fanatics,are getting smaller. As for thousands of scientist agreeing this is man made? everyday i see where most scientist have fallen off Gores band wagon, because most of what he says is NOT fact , but made up fiction. I love to watch him make these million dollar speeches about how we have to give up everything, as he gets off the private jets,which burn more fuel in 1 trip,than i do all year. what a sad day it is when so many of you are so blind to this BS!!!!

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phill drum,Minneapolis,MN. — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:09:15 GMT

Don't worry,be happy! God will take care of everything. Little warm for Ya bunkie? Think massive volcanic activity! Billions and billions of tons of volcanic ash and carbon spewed into the atmosphere in one day? Blocking out the sun will work wonders for cooling this cesspool off in a minute. OR? comet anyone? Maybe just a small asteroid in one of the oceans ought to do it. Hey that would also replenish the greatlakes! Oh yeah they would be covered by the glaciers that made them again anyway.How bought you kids just stick to worrying about your Mcgriddles and xboxs? Leave the worry to those with brains and you better get this right! Oh Ps..Lake superior is full again. Thanks to Yahweh the great! Amen

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YourFriendlyResidentAlien — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:14:36 GMT

WOW Humans are such funny creatures

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Jim, Tucson, AZ — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:14:52 GMT

Robert Heinlein once said, and I'm paraphrasing here, "If it cannot be expressed in figures, it is opinion. We head forever into the unknown, and our only clues are in the facts. Get the facts!"
Just because someone says, "Well, everyone knows that such-and-such is the case...", doesn't necessarily make it true. Don't trust in others to do your homework for you.
Get out there and gather the facts for yourselves. Otherwise, all you're learning is what some other person wants you to hear, one way or the other.
Anyone read Michael Crichton's "State of Fear", lately?

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Anonymous22 — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:21:53 GMT

In summary, what is causing the depletion of the ozone is the CFC's, etc. in the atmosphere. Because of the natural wind currents, CFC's eventually end up at the poles. They fall to the snow until spring (half of the year is complete darkness, half is completely lit) when the sun shines down on the snow, creating a chemical reaction with the CFC's, releasing carbon which reacts with the ozone O3 and breaks off oxygen atoms creating more CO2, etc. The ozone molecules, having an ozone atom stolen, are now O2. Oxygen. That is why the ozone is thinner/more "depleted" during the spring ('spring' at the poles of course). The ozone layer has the capability to repair itself, yet the rate that we are producing and releasing air pollutants does not allow complete repair, ever. I know it's a pretty crude explanation. It's been a few months since I've been briefed on this but I think you can get the jist of it. If you'd like to learn more about it, I suggest researching it. It's fascinating. Extremely sad, really. Global warming is a double whammy because not only is the ozone depleting, allowing more sunlight to enter the atmosphere, but once it is in the atmosphere, it cannot easily escape as the air pollutants create a sort of blanket over the atmosphere (the greenhouse effect). Heat comes in quite easily, yet cannot escape, causing higher and higher temperatures. The ice melts due to the greater temperatures. Ice plays a large part in the reflection of the sunlight's rays back into the atmosphere. With less surface area of the ice, there is less reflection of these rays as well. The average change in global temperature has been about 13 degrees. 1 degree at the equator, 12 at the poles. This is absolutely not natural. Yes there have been ice ages in the past. However, there were not nearly the same number of people that there are now, who knows how many were wiped out. I know many people are strongly against Al Gore, but I recommend watching an Inconvenient Truth. Shocking data. Better safe than sorry right? It's something to think about. 2050 isn't so far away.

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Roger Strand, Park City Utah — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:25:28 GMT

As strange as it may seem most of the people that scream global warming also have a problem with America as a whole. We did not create the melting ice caps, global food problems or the green house effect. Climate change has been part of this world since the very begining, just look at the saber toothed tigers, etc. You can't judge the whole past and future by 100 or so years. America has done a whole hell of lot more for the preservation of the earth than any other country in the world. Maybe one or two has signed on to the Koyto aggreement, but what have they really done to preserve the earth as a whole. If it were not just about the money why have all of these signers not just taken it upon themselves to change everything in ther part of the world. Fat chance, they just want the good ole USA to foot the bill. Guilt is a easy tool for the lazy to lay upon the hard working American citizen. If you so believe in Al Gore and his nonsense just stop using gas and get a bike. I'll use your share for my great job and wonderful family, we'll all thank you for donation. Just remember the Law of Attraction, keep complaning and you'll get more to complain about, keep being anti something and you'll get more anti something, keep being negative and you'll get what you deserve and I'll get what I want.

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David Moore, Denver, CO — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:36:22 GMT

God made the mountains
God made the sky
God made the people
God knows why

He fixed up the planet
As best as He could
Then in come the people
And gum it up good

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Doctor Doolittle — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:39:12 GMT

Remember when adds would say 4 out of 5 doctors agree? Well you can always get someone to side with you if you ask enough people or money is involved
How about Global weather is happening

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Kelly-Redmond, WA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:45:15 GMT

I am guilty. I live in the burbs, drive and SUV and I like to leave my porch light on so I can see the steps to my front door. However, I agree with Doug in Redmond-there really is no downside to conservation efforts. I do my part elsewhere by turning off the water, keeping my thermostat at 68 in the winter and recycling nearly anything and everything I can. Anyone who doesn't think that scientist know what they're talking about need only research the history of the Bald Eagle and how the use of CFC's effected their numbers. Fortunately, we were able to fix our mistakes before the Bald Eagle went extinct, and now, they are thriving. You have to be a complete fool to think that more than 6 Billion of us don't have an effect on the earth and the environment.

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Robert, Rankin Inlet, Nunavut, Canada — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:46:42 GMT

I have just read all the posts in this thread. I am writing this from Rankin Inlet, Nunavut, Canada. 63 Degrees North Lattitude (Western Hudson's Bay) The ambient temperature outside is currently minus 23 Degrees Celsius. With the wind chill it is minus 37 Degrees Celcius. The Bay just in front of our community is freezing over as I type. By December it will be averaging minus 35-40 Celsius ambient. Bring on friggin global warming. Now!!. I have lived in the Canadian Arctic for the past 30 years.

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Frank, Round Rock, TX — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:47:31 GMT

I don't know if there is global warming or not. I have not been around long enough to compare what is a normal operating temperature for the earth. In my opinion, the earth knows what it needs to survive. That's why there are more floods, earthquakes, hurricanes and tornados. It is using what it has to create the conditions that it needs to survive. We need to adapt to whatever the earth does. If the earth created a screen for us not to die from the sun's rays, then wouldn't a little carbon emissions be a piece of cake compared to the sun's rays? I have no basis in science for my opinion, just an above average imagination. One more thing, animals cannot change their sizes to adapt to the shortage of food. that sounds like people think that animals can plan for the future. why don't i adapt myself and any future generations in my family to fly. i'm sure if i think hard enough i can grow some wings. that way i can adapt to the environment and pollute a lot less by not having to drive. think about it.

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Ve, Seattle, Washington — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:47:47 GMT

Firstly, what begs the question for me is (given that 90% of the world's ice is located in the south) - then why are we not trialling polar bear relocation, integration and cross-breeding in Antarctica ? Just in case someone might be right one way or the other - surely precaution beats non-action....
I'm thinking when you can no longer buy honey because the bees all died you just might consider "Houston we have a problem" - then begins the queries...Was it a virus or a drought or the doubling of the ozone hole in 2006 or just that the bees migrated to another planet....because there was not enough nectar in the plants because the plants were trying to conserve water that had evaporated through the hole in the ozone and space was stealing our water. Mind you it could all just have been a bad dream and we will all awake tomorrow and everything will be normal again but WHAT IF.....it isn't?
Secondly, if you were told you had 4 years to live on this planet because you failed to make a change thirty years ago -:
Are you the type of person that would just keep on trucking and shift it into overdrive?
or
Are the type of person that would do your level best to fight to save the planet for the next generation? What if....scenarios make us step up not out - so why are we not doing what needs to be done? It starts with you and me regardless of whether we agree!!

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Karen, Greeley, Colorado — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:49:32 GMT

I watched Al Gore's documentary, An Inconvenient Truth. I did not hear him asking for everyone to drop everything and radically change their lives. What I heard was that if everyone just made little changes, such as cutting back on your electricity or using less water, it could make a difference. Heck, I have been trying to get my family to do that for a long time to cut down on our expenses. I see no sense in comparing my lifestyle to Al Gore's and I don't get why so many people are so critical of him. You don't have to. He really is NOT going to run for president. So what does it hurt to cut back a little and save some money? If some people want to go a step further in "being green", don't be critical. Let them. They are not getting in your way.

As far as the polar bears go....we are responsible! They may be able to adapt to the changes and, maybe they won't. But, we are still responsible. We humans were given the intelligence to maintain the diversity in this world. The polar bears can do nothing to maintain their environment, but we can.

Too bad all this global warming is also causing a loss of empathy in humans.

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Jason — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:01:59 GMT

I have no doubt whatsoever that there is a problem in teh way that we fill our air, but I also agree that GREAT strides have been made over my relatively short lifetime to reduce the harmful effects. I find it hilarious, however that liberals have still not found a way to control their anger. Why is it that whenever anyone disagrees with a liberal, on even the most minute of details, then the antagonist "hasn't seen all of the facts" or "just doesn't get it?" If a legitimate, competing argument is posed to a liberal, or "activist", or "environmentalist" as they like to be called thse days, then they dismiss the facts as "conservative nonsense." Dear liberals, it's a fact: There are multiple evidences of human life BELOW the ice that you are racing so desparately to save. This means that at some point, there were people on top of that ice. It also means that the ice "re-grew" or "regenerated" if you want to be elitist about it! In order for that to happen, there were temperature fluctuations dating back to well beyond the days of Al Gore!! YOU do some research before you start talking down to very well educated people on an internet blog with week old sound bites that you can't truly explain!

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KG - Waco, TX — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:02:46 GMT

I have in my hands a National Geographic from 1986 that devotes over half of the edition to the coming Ice Age. According to the enviromental scientists in the article, the decade of the 80's was the coldest on record. I don't know how much Al Gore knows about Earth's history, but the Polar Ice Caps have melted at least once before. For 150 million years during the age of dinosaurs, sea levels were 300 feet higher than now and Texas was a shallow sea. Why do you think they have so much oil now? As for me, Global warming is better than the alterative...another ice age with 150' thick ice sheets covering everything down to St. Louis, MO.

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Rick, Tampa, Florida — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:03:21 GMT

If I here another lib screaming about global warming I am going to puke. Why do you think they named it Greenland??? It wasn't because it was covered with ice like it is today!! How about the polar caps on Mars shrinking?? Martian SUV's?? It is called the sun folks, and it is hot as hell!! When Algore offers you the koolaid, do your part, and tell him you will drink it without the ice!

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Tree Hugger, near Baltimore, MD — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:07:27 GMT

OMG, Humans created BIG problems. We are polluting so much more and faster. Think what life was like before all Americans had electricity as a "right", or before cars were invented. The more advanced we become, the more we scar the earth, taking resources and making "disposable" goods, even including homes, cars, and everything that goes in them. Our life spans are longer due to modern medicine, and we have the availability to get to a doctor via modern transportation. It's not that we should take away the medicine and the good things, but I agree that the world's population and hunger-to-have-more keep inflicting more damage every millisecond. We can't live simply because we have created the technology to live complex lives. Are we any happier than previous generations? Yes, if you are already living simply. No for most of us. Work hard, get more. Where does that broken MP3 player go when it dies? Buried in a landfill somewhere, of no use to anyone. Where do we dispose of hazardous waste? Landfills? Barrels in the seas? Shoot them up into the air with great cost and pollution so they can become man-made satellites and deteriorate into space? Our ability to reason separates us from lower animals, but don't you sometimes wonder who's really the smartest of the animals? Those that kill only to eat what they need to survive, those that aren't wasteful, those that keep population in check by way of supply and demand. Anyone seen the article that says Polar bears are getting "lost at sea" because their ice chunk they live on gets separated from the big "mainland" chunk, and they float to sea and can't swim back to the mainland, and can't find food, so they starve to death. So, if man is partially to blame for global warming, and nature is also, can't it be true that we are accelerating the process with our greed, and that we are somewhat responsible for the Polar Bear's plight?
If you are so ignorant that you don't believe man, with his increasing number and increasing greed for more has affected the earth, you are pathetically ignorant.
Start looking into alternatives for your "power" needs, live more simply and reduce your consumption. That won't fix the problems we have and future ones, but it may slow the demise of the earth a little.

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:ooey Munn, Roundup, MT — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:15:58 GMT

I will make a few people mad. Tell me, HOW did the polar bears survive the substantially longer and globally hotter periods of the Holocene and the MWP??
And the penguins also? I want a scientific answer, please. Based on real science, not a "religious" fervor, about global warming.

Secondly, remember the Dark Ages, when the "consensus" was virtually uniform among ALL scientists, ALL peons, and ALL religious people that the universe revolved around the Earth. Please note, Consensus is NOT Proof! Proven over and over in science.

I am tired of "Proof by Consensus." Especially when equally good scientists have come up with other facts, never explained, and have been ostracized and deprived of their jobs for "doubting the Consensus"! Is that Science, or Politics? Tell me...I want to know.

I want to note that, as many computer scientists and techs noted a while back, the model predicting that Global Warming was too fast and due to humans turned out to be wrong by a factor of 10 times, recently. What other errors would have been caught if the "deniers"...see, a religious name even!!..had been allowed to have their say and prove their points if they could. Shutting other people up does not prove your own points!

And by the way, far as I know, we are still ignoring history and using the "Hockey Stick" model, because using the real data fails to predict the desired scary amount of global warming!

A lot of people have ignored history, since History shows that global warming is good...more resources, more food, more time to create works of art, more time to study science...whyever are we ignoring history and trying to prevent the historical good of the GW periods, and maybe bring back the sicknesses, plagues, malaise,and poverty of the cooling periods? History, my friends, not made up "consensus" facts.

One other thing, we HAVE a cheap and simple way to control warming, even bring on an ice age if we want. Nature has proven it many times, and Man has proven it very effectively in the last century.

History tells a lot if we look at it and understnd.
I note the global warming stuff generlly published does not include the 1890s in any detail, which I find significant, because Nature showed us how to cool off the globe then very clearly. Known as "The year without a summer." Snows in August in the corn belt. Krakatoa blew up, and put a lot of fine dust into the stratosphere, blocking the sun's heat. AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH best ignored, I guess. For Mother Nature to show us the way. But this does not help get the rich even richer, does it?

1950-1970, when "everybody" was panic'd we were plunging into an ice age. All the PC climatologists wrung their hands.

Turns out the Environmentalists restarted global warming faster than ever! Their fault, folks. Al Gore's Terror Film shows the belching smokestcks, emitting among other things fine dusts. Those got into the atmosphere, high enough up, to block the sun's heat, and when the Environmentalists cleaned up the smoke, we got hit with th full blast of the sun, and global warming took off about twice as fast as before.

Look at the curves the GW folks show (and do not explain), with this informtion in mind!

Folks...the solution is sooo simple. Make a lot of an innocuous dust, and have every stratospheric flight, civilian and military, carry a few bags of dust and a dispenser, and scatter it, maybe over oceans, and restore the heat barrier we inadvertantly destroyed.

I challange anybody to tell me that what nature and man agree on works will not work!!

And it does not mean all new cars, or energy rationing, or any of that. We do not have to stop life.

But where have all our thinking SCIENTISTS gone to??

Besides, we can move all the Polar Bears to the South Polar ice...it will last 2000 years at present rates, I have read GW scientists admit, enough time for us to use real science, not a political consensus, to find a real solution.

Unless those three asteroids that Astronomers have found about 20-30 years away and inbound, and Global warming is overshadowing, hit the Earth before scientists have been given funds to prepare a defense. Remember the dinosaurs didn't prepare to deflect an asteroid, and what happend to them as a result.

We gonna be the next dinosaurs to perish to an asteroid strike because we were too busy on something else more politically important and correct?? Anybody want to hazard a guess?

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Shocked, USA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:18:34 GMT

WOW! I cannot believe what i am reading. Who in the world made Al Gore the person to believe about anything? Mr. I-invented-the-internet shouldn't be trusted with a goldfish let alone with getting facts right. This movie of his was just something else to do instead of sitting at home eating more junk food. (starting the beard trend failed so he just moved on)We shouldn't have to pay just because he starts making stuff up out of boredom. As far as these global warming scientists. Do none you actually realize that they are in fact employed by the government?! Hello! Doesn't that say a little something? And what about all the scientists that say there is no proof of global warming or that humans are to blame. Why aren't they just as credible as the governement paid ones? I am shocked and saddened at the amount of people who know so little and yet talk like they know so much. Grow a brain, start checking facts, and quit believing everything you hear on TV. Like i have to tell my three year old, just beacuse there is a unicorn on TV doesn't mean that they exist. She understands that now, which means she is already a few steps ahead of many of you.

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Dina, Steamboat Springs, CO — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:22:52 GMT

Each of us will go out of this world with the same thing we came into it with.... NOTHING. The best way our small, insignificant life (a blip in time, in terms of earth's history), is to leave the earth a better place for those who come behind us. American's are wasting their time debating global warming, we all know in our heart what we need and what we take. Do the right thing, you have only yourself to answer to.

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DM Louisiana — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:26:12 GMT

This planet is billions of years old. How do we really know what weather patterns are? Continents have shifted and changed, and what about the ice age? In the scope of science we are very young. I live on La Gulf Coast and just recently read that the Gulf (or ocean) could have been mid-state 24 million years ago and we are struggling with coastal errosion? WE all could do our share to help the enviroment, every step, even small ones, could make a difference.

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C Cochran, Bothell, WA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:34:06 GMT

Folks...this is a process of natural selection. We all will die at some point. No one gets out alive. If some of us go sooner than others, so be it. If/when it comes right down to it, who are you going to look out for when chaos hits, hmm? Yourselves. Human nature, folks. Do we HONESTLY think any of us will make a difference? If you are still under the naive assumption that you can make a difference in how things turn out, let me ask you...have you voted recently? Didn't make a difference, did it?

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Michael Gillie, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:40:32 GMT

If i sound upset, then that is my intent. I think that people care too much about things like Sunday shopping, Gay rights, and animal rights, that they don't give a hoot about the common people around them.

I am in no way bashing anyone below, or at least, I do not intend to, but seeing how much the media and animal rights activists care about stupid little issues, lets get some facts straight.

Too many HOMELESS people die in Canada. The poverty rate is Incredible!!! People who live on welfare either take advantage of the system, in some cases, or are too scared to get a job, and loose what little they do get from Social Services.

Slightly off topic? Not really! My Grandmother used to say that Charity begins in the home. Our home is Canada. Yes, animals matter, but WHO cares more? Animals, or PEOPLE??? Why are we spending millions on helping animal live, when we should be building low-cost housing complexes, and non-profit aid organizations to help the homeless. I'm not saying GIVE them what they need to live another day. No! I'm saying if you can motivate them (and they WANT to get somewhere in life), train them with the skills they need. When there are no more homeless people in Canada, THEN we should consider helping children in Africa, and othern countries.

Am I heartless, no. I wish there was no childhood poverty. But I also wish that activists would get their priorities straight, and realize FIRST THING'S FIRST!!!!!

Thank you for the time, and I'm not really expecting this to make the cut, but my voice has been heard at least by someone!!

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Beth Seattle WA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:49:16 GMT

John & others: Endangered species act in US and Canada has protected the bears from overhunting. This has caused the numbers to rise over the past 20 years. Come on people you are jumping on every single tiny number to disprove Global Warming same as you say the media & Al Gore are doing to prove it.

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Michelle Marcotte — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:50:19 GMT

While we are researching causal factors for changes in polar bear populations, why not also determine how many polar bears are killed by trophy hunters each year? Stopping trophy hunting might be a good idea if polar bear populations are decreasing.

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Climate Scientist, California — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:52:27 GMT

Lets be patient with one another it took many years for most people to realize the earth wasn't really flat and it is likely there are still people who believe it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society

What we can't touch or feel is hard to understand, like the curvature of the earth global climate change can not be experienced in a direct way. Indirectly we are seeing warmer temperatures, larger more frequent catastrophic fires, and greater variability in local weather none of these things can be understood as a single event or as a few days months or weeks of weather.

Global climate change has been challenged by powerful business and political interests out of fear of what it might do to the short term economy and just like the reality of no weapons of mass destruction existing in Iraq it takes a while for the truth to filter into the main-stream understanding long after the people that have been spreading misinformation have retracted their original claims.

This is where we are now and the reality is the primary human produced greenhouse gasses, the principal cause of climate change, are increasing at a faster rate than at any time in the past 200,000 years and this is something nearly all credible scientists agree on.

One of the best sources of science, written in terms the layman can understand, is available from this years winner of the Nobel Peace Prize the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change: http://www.ipcc.ch/pub/spm22-01.pdf

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Larry N. Jensen, Spring Hill, Florida — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:06:30 GMT

I am very frustrated. I have had to live my whole life without dinosaurs, and now I have to face living without polar bears. What hardship will I be forced to face next?

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MaryKatherine, Santa Barbara, CA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:07:03 GMT

If you want my opinion, which you probably don't, but I'm giving it anyway.....

" humans are the virus and once we become extint, then those beasts who survive will live w/o sicknesses."

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Michele D. El Paso, TX — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:11:55 GMT

OK, I read the el Paso ladies' idea about desalinization of the ocean, blah blah. Obviously not a good idea. but don't call her names. Somebody tried to type Moron but typed marroon...who needs an education now? And one more thing since I'm adding fuel to the fire, George Bush is not responsible for every thing wrong with this planet! If you don't like the government start with term limits on Congress!!

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Ernie, Knoxville Tennessee — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:13:50 GMT

When the Vikings settled in Greenland it was Green (not covered in ice) why do you think it is called Greenland. Scientist have discovered settlements since the Glaciers have melted away. The ice age was what was supposed to have killed the dinosaurs then it warmed up, maybe its still warming up since the Vikings were frozen out of Greenland. AL(DORK)GORE is an idiot, why do you think the people of Tennessee didn't vote for him in 2000 (they had him for a US Senator and knew him very well.)

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howie cleburne tx — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:14:48 GMT

joe in dallas needs to go home from where ever he came, nick in walled lake sounds like a walled mind lefty who would love life in the former russia. yup another texan

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Michele D. El Paso, TX — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:14:48 GMT

Here is an idea, let's all stop calling each other names. Try not to be selfish or greedy, be kind to others and don't waste, hey, that's my grandmothers' plan for a better world!!!! By George, I think Grandmas' got it!!

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Eric, Az. — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:20:11 GMT

Here's where I'm supposed to regurgitate what people like Dan from Florida gets fed on a daily basis by Rush Limbaugh and his ilk. Rush criticized the network for trying to save some electricity during football game broadcasts! It's all a scam so they can put new taxes on us- he says! His callers say, "Well there was global warming 10,000 years ago, and everything turned out o.k. Yeah, but there was an ice age caused by it in between in which you, your 1.5 children, wife and car wouldn't have survived. Don't compare how "we lived" then with how "we live" (quite comfortably)now! And if we can do something about prolonging the next ice age's arrival why won't these lemmings think beyond the "it's all a scam" angle of defense? The problem is- they want to apply the same games they've learned to win from their political party to life(survival) and ecology. And it cannot be applied as it is biased, superficial, and oversimplified. If taxes have to be incurred, they for the most part will be "carbon taxes" incurred by "larger corporations", and the lawyers behind these large corporations are what is fueling the scripts behind shows like Rush's. Don't be against doing something in favor of prolonging life as you know it and like it, aside from shutting a few lights off or maybe getting a hybrid in the next couple of years, just because "big business" behind a presently failing economic system is feeling it's growing pains out loud and wants to lie to you so it can go on like it does, declare bankruptcy and get out of it's pension commitments. Do you even realize the allegiance you're showing the same type of people that would bend over backwards to outsource your job tomorrow? It's sickly.

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Jim, Roseville MI — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:29:23 GMT

OK people... CO2 causes global warming, That’s a known fact. The problem isn’t we are putting to much CO2 in the air... The problem is we are cutting down an Acre of forest every minute. Trees turn CO2 into O2. Stop cutting down our forest. there’s your problem. As far as the Arctic Ice breaking up and melting. hummmm... Stop sending ICE BREAKERS to the arctic to see why the ice is Breaking up and melting. Is there a problem with global warming? Yes. Can be easily fixed by doing as much as we can to save our forest (Recycle paper, cardboard etc.) and for gods sake, stop sending those darn Ice breakers to see why the arctic ice is breaking up and melting! 1 volcano can put as much CO2 in the air as we do in 10 years or more. We just really need our CO2 converters (Trees) left alone. We are down to less than 20% of the original forest. SAVE THE TREES PEOPLE!! Or... we could always salt the ice caps lol. just being a smarty pants with that one. At least shes trying to think of something. props for that Lynda Duke

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Kid, CA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:32:07 GMT

oops i accidently clicked send on the prevoius one. I agree that we need to do something.

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Jim, Roseville MI — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:37:42 GMT

GORE is a idiot by the way, $30,000/month energy bill ha!! read my previous statement and start from there. Don't trust that bold face lier. and to think I voted for his butt. I think god stepped in for a reason and put all those dummies that cant read a ballot in Florida so we would have a REAL leader in office. SAVE THE TREES by not buying Gore little book. If he cared he would have used Recycled paper for his books but you guessed it... HE DIDN'T.

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Barb — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:00:49 GMT

We humans have an amazing ability to deny that we are a part of nature, were created by it and are just as vulnerable as all of earth's creatures. Wake up guys.. it's not just about polar bears!

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Aurora, CO — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:09:53 GMT

Did the writer from Spears, TX mean to say "moron?" I'm not sure what marrooooon is, but it sounds fairly benign to me.

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Hello Is Anybody Home?, Hudson Valley, NY — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:10:32 GMT

Wow-I am truly amazed that their are still people who question global warming. Touched by the article but blown away by the responses. Wake up people, this isn't "second life" or a video game. Read, educate yourself and pull yourself away from the blue din in your living room. Maybe now that the writers are on strike you can take a reprieve from the sitcom and sit and read without feeling threatened. By the way John Florida, are you aware that your state and your neighboring good state of GA is facing the worst water shortage ever? As is California and many other regions around the world? Probably has nothing to do with Global Warming. But maybe you'd better check with "Concerned Geologist" and see what the ice cores are saying today. When you speak with him, ask him how much more CO2 is in modern day ice cores than ancient ones (and those would be just a bit older than the 70's).

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Lisa — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:13:18 GMT

Well folks, my two cents is that you need to really take a long hard look at everything in the world and realize that this planet is about to boot us off.. SUV's or not. Yes there is global warming and I am sure that we add to it.. but the story goes deeper than that. The earth goes through birth and death cycles just like everything else. The government knows this.. why do you think alot of countries are all on a mad dash to build moon colonies all of a sudden?... and what about the Noahs Ark Seed Vault? ...add it up folks. The movies The Day After Tomorrow, The Core, Absolute Zero and Deep Impact werent made for just entertainment value.. most of them got their story lines from actual studies by scientist that know the whole story. Go google solar cycle 24 or "2005 YU55" and start looking at the BIG picture.

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Lisa — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:16:01 GMT

oh and one more thing...this global warming thing has happened before to the planet.. only there were no big factories then or gas guzzling mammoth vehicles roaming around. So Mother Earth is in need of a recharge again. The earths magnetic field is dwindling down to nothing....hmmm wonder why they dont tell you that on the news?

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Chris, from Washington — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:23:02 GMT

They have found Mamoths with fresh food in their stomachs, frozen in the Alaskan glasciers. The have found early humans frozen in the Alaskan glasciers. Scientists determined they froze immedately, therefore it was warm and then froze suddenly. If it is going to happen it will just happen and people will not be able to do anything about it.
If less people is the answer then how about all the global warmers commit suicide.

Gore spends over $4,000 a month to heat his mansion, Bush spends about $400 a month to heat his modest house. Looks to me Gore is talking out both sides of his mouth.

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Randy — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:50:00 GMT

Global warming or not, man is the cancer of the earth. We are litteraly consuming the body that gives us life. What chances and assumptions are we willing to take on our future, our children's future and our grandchildren's future? What damage to ourselves and or the earth are we doing that scientists have yet to learn? Is man capable of learning how to live in harmony with nature once again. It should be refreshing for everyone to know that at least someone people on the planet have the population's safety in mind. People need to be fully aware that protectionism towards big corporations such as oil and tobacco is alive and well in this country. I'm 45 years old. When I was 7 or 8 years old I remember the surgeon general's warning being placed on cigarettes. Even with all the deaths and all the high insurance rates cigarettes remain legal at the expense of the overall public. What real incentives are there out globally to reduce carbon emissions. anyone who questions the impact of carbon emissions on life should get in their vehicle and start it up and let it run a while inside their garage, with the garage door down. It won't take very long before you start feeling sick. Now imagine millions of vehicles in the world running around the clock for decades on end.

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Bobby OKC — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:07:25 GMT

You people tickle me. Global warming, so, you all will fight and bicker over whose fault it is. So who is to be the first to die to save the world? No electricity, no cars, no massive farms growing food, no factories processing the food, ect, ect, …….

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Joshua- Stevens Point, WI — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:15:33 GMT

Global Warming?... The fact that anyone believes that Humans are solely responsible for the changes that are Planet is going through needs to do a bit of their own research instead of just listening to what their TV's are telling them. While I'm not saying that we may be contributing to it,and we could stand to clean things up a bit, our role is a minor one. I think one of the best things we could do as a whole is actually read about the history of our lovely little planet and compare these Events with those that have been taking place since before Humans have been around. Oh, and one more thing, Global Dimming? Which one is it, is the Planet getting Warmer or Colder

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laurie, evans colorado — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:24:18 GMT

what we need is for our rain forests to be left alone and let nature do its thing. we as people are the blame and we as people need to think wisely and make things right again. and for gods sake people buy houses already made we have to many houses for sale and new ones going up by the dozen every minute. we need our farms oh what farms they are gone gone gone. we need to go back to small basic living. this would help out tremendously.

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Dave — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:25:38 GMT

Yes, we are expeieriancing global warming. Just like we did at a period of every century in time. I live in a place that had steady snow fall troughout the late 1800's. In the earley 1900's it started to get warmer and didn't snow as much. The mid 1900's they had major snow fall. In the late 1900 when I moved here it snowed once a year, and now it snows 5 or more times a year. As far as pollution goes, in the 1920-1940's pollution was 100 times worse than it is now. Before the big scare was our rain forests. Well they only provide 1% of the worlds oxygen. The forests of the northern hemosphere supply most of the worlds oxygen. Then there is the rapid destruction of our forests that will be completely gone in a decade according to these save the tree orginizations. There is over 200,000 square miles of forest in the U.S. alone that have never been explored by man. Lets not mention Russia & Canada that have regions that will never be explored by man. We need to take care of what we have, and learn not to pollute, try to get away from fossil fuels, and just keep the place clean. But for everyone to thing we somehow control global warming you are sadley mistaken. If you fallow the Earths position over the last several centuries & for the projected future. THey have been able to predict the next ice age. Guess what, you won't be around when it happens. As far as Al Gore goes, he is an idiot. He knows what is goin on and he is getting rich off the gullable.

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Bill, Rush KY — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:25:39 GMT

I think that global warming beats an ice age all to pieces.

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dean hanson Minneapolis, MN — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:28:46 GMT

I can't help but add a thought:Those who think they know, don't know. Those who know that they don't know,Know........."Thats old wisdom yaknow. give peace a chance" Goodnight all

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Ray Brookings, Or — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:48:30 GMT

This links says that polar bears are increasing in numbers. What are we to believe? http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710190009.html

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Knut, Berlin, Germany — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:04:08 GMT

I asked my mom, "What kind of bear am I?"

She said, "A polar bear?"

I asked if she was sure.

She said, "Yes, son. I am sure. You are white, you live at the Arctic, you eat seals. Why do you ask?"

I said, "Because, I am chilly."

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Dani Tobi, Yokota, Japan — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:13:29 GMT

Let us buy diesel-powered cars and fill the gas tanks with vegtable oil or peanut oil so it will stop spreading carbon deoxcide

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Milani, Seoul, S. Korea — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:16:46 GMT

Thank you for taking the time to address the dire future the polar bears will likely face. It is great that you have put the spotlight on it. I hope that we can still save them since we have put them in that position. Each of us needs to make changes to the way we conduct our lives; small things can make a big difference when everyone is conscious of making an effort everyday. We have been selfish for too long!!!!

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Dani Tobi, Yokota, Japan — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:17:47 GMT

I am looking forward to this update. The Government is hiding something and it is fishey. It is true Global Warning is starting again. That is why gas prices are higher. Also milk, grain, and barley prices are up

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Zeph Phillips, Costa Mesa, CA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:19:32 GMT

Relax folks, the earth is going to be just fine. It has gone through these climate changes many times over the millions of years of its existence and will continue to change in the future. As for humans - that could be another story.

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Dan Stombaugh, Portland, Oregon — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:24:12 GMT

All I'm going to say is that I'm sorry for what my parent's generation and my generation has done to this planet and I am afraid of what my grandchildren and their children are going to experiance because of this. Not to mention all of the animals who will adapt or become extinct. I don't think they'll have the time to adapt.

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Ron, New York,, NY — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:33:03 GMT

Interesting that a judge recently found nine (9) of Gore's OH SO IMPORTANT comments in his movie about global warming to be LIES!!! If you can recycle, do it because it's the smart thing to do, but please, all the 'war of the world's' mentality, as one reader stated, is baloney. a few months ago they had concerts all over the world to help the global warming awareness cause. Do you realize that the planes, trains and automobiles to get to those concerts created a HUGE carbon footprint!! the idiots could have helped reduce carbon emissions by NOT having the concert. All it did was fill Gore's pockets. NO, I don't hate Gore, I just think that someone who feeds the public these idea's in large part to fill his pockets should retire. If you don't believe me, do some research on the amount of energy his house uses compared to the eco-friendly resident Bush lives in.

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Amanda, Puyallup, Washington — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:38:29 GMT

Hey Nick, I've seen Gore's movie, and I still don't believe in global warming to a great degree. So please don't make blanket assumptions.

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Eric , Carson City, NV — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:53:06 GMT

Earths climate is so huge and complicated that humans will never understand it fully. At least not in the near future. We currently understand very little about how one thing affects another (i.e. how warming air impacts deep ocean currents and visa versa).

So if you are waiting for "proof," you will die of heat exhaustion first. (joke)

The point is, we don't have proof, but we do have common sense. We know that our actions are probably contributing to the current warming trends, and we know that these warming trends are not good for us. Lets be responsibl people.

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Ron, Minden, NV — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:57:47 GMT

If me and five other people all started shooting machine guns into a building full of children, and we could here hear them dying in there, how would I know for a fact that it was MY bullets that were killing them. Might it be one of the other five people's bullets? Shouldn't I put my gun down anyway, just in case? This is our situation with the climate.

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Alex Southeast Iowa — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:59:39 GMT

I've read all the comments, and note there are a some intelligent ones. Certainly the lady from TX was probably thinking about using salt and making ice cream, no one should expect her to know that we use salt to melt the ice & snow, they don't have ice & snow where she lives. however what I don't understand, is how can so many people allowed themselves to go from open minded to empty headed? We are not going to destroy the earth! Al Gore's Inconvenient Full of Lies "Truth" is nothing more than more propaganda, get a clue people, if Gore was worried about the environment, instead of his financial & POLITICAL future he would change the way he lives and the way their factories run (which incidently are all over the world in places without the oversight of the USA & its EPA) Gore is just trying to regain some footing in the political environment, not the eco environment. Trying to get past SORE/LOSERMAN in 2000. Throughout time there is evedence of ice ages & warming trends, we are in a warming trend. Whether we drive suv's or not. BTW Gore's pushing of the KYOTO protocols only serves to hamper and destroy the USA, while allowing communist & third world dictators to go on there merry way creating more and cheaper whatever than can be done in the USA because of more & more mindless regulation.

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Savannah, Santa Clarita, CA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:03:55 GMT

Guys...Polar Bears Swim...

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Leonard J. Siebert S.L.O Ca. — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:30:00 GMT

Kerry,
Wonderful article I look forward to more. Many years ago I was stationed at Thule, Greenland and have always had a fond spot in my heart for the arctic areas as well as "Nanuk" aka Polar bears. Their plight is sad but no sadder than that of the Siberian Tiger, the African Elephant or the countless other large mammals which face extinction or are extinct due to habitat destruction. Not since the Yucatan meteor strike have so many plants and animals met their end as in the last years since the coming of one primate; Man! We seem driven by greed alone in so many cases that even if we were to reduce emissions or population (6.5 Billion currently) will consume all the habitats that other forms of life need anyways. It's a finite ball we live on and although most think there is room a plenty "for man" it leaves little for those creatures which came before us.
Enjoy the frontier Kerry, I envy you.

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Ed - Chicago, IL — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:30:49 GMT

G.B. Florida- fossil fuels WERE widely used in 1934, with almost no restrictions. you have to remember most of Europe and the United States just recently became highly industrialized and pollution control was either very lax or non-existent. Today's situtation is worse but it was still present in the early 20th century.

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E. Hanson, Des Moines IA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:48:47 GMT

Nick and Scott in MI: Do you see black helicopters flying around at night too? This rock has been here a very long time, and will be here long after we are all gone. How do we know Al Gore is lying? His lips are moving. Nobel Peace prize? Seriously?? Handed to him by a bunch of like-minded do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do socialists. Shocking. Global warming...sure, temperatures are easy to track, nowadays. But what we are seeing is a dynamic process that has played out for millions of years and will continue to flucuate long after we are gone. Don't be so full of yourself to think that your tiny carbon footprint will leave any lasting mark on this planet. Puuhlease!

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Jordan - DesMoines, IA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:10:02 GMT

What gets me about the entire global warming debate is this: the earth's cycles were here before the humans, and they will be here again after the humans. There is no doubt that polution, deforestation, industrilization and the like have had a negative effect on the planet. I remain unconvinced that these are -CAUSING- global warming... but when it comes down to it, it dosnt really matter. Life will continue on this planet nomatter how horribly we destroy it. So the humans, with our inability to adapt to a changing world, might die off. *shrug* the planet might be better off in the long run.
we worry about the effect we have had on climate, on 'natural systems'. What we fail to realize is that in the scope of earth's history, humans' impact on the planet will be negligable. The earth will survive, the planet will thrive.... humans might not if we cant figure out how to adapt and survive in a changing world

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Pascal, Paris — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:18:17 GMT

I am not an Al Gore Fan, however his documentary is a convincing commentary on the impact that the human race is having on our planet earth.
What I get from all these blogs is that for some the impact of global warming is obvious and not for others.
The scientific community needs to provide common sense information on how we impact our planet and what we can do to change our behavior accordingly.
I live in Europe, and it is amazing at the difference in attitude by goverments and the people in the street about their responsibility and accountabilty to the planet.
My political statement of the day: politics and lobbying in the US do not create an environment where verified scientific data makes policy, but instead what is best for the next election and the fund raising needed to win elections.
The people need to change that by getting the facts for themselves and be prepared to act for the good of the whole and not just themselves.

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Peter Jones — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:54:37 GMT

Clearly there are a lot of people who don't WANT to believe that global warming is real, or that it is caused by human activity.

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john florida — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:52:37 GMT

MIKE LONG ISLAND:
WHEN I SPEAK OF PEOPLE MAKING A LIVING OFF OFF IT, I AM REFERRING TO THE THE GORE, KENNEDY'S TYPES NOT SCIENTISTS. SCIENTISTS ARE THE ONES I WOULD SUPPORT AFTER THEY ALL AGREE ON THE OUTCOME.THE PEOPLE I WAS REFERRING TO ARE THE ONES SELLING "CARBON OFFSETS"TALK (ABOUT SNAKE OIL)I AM REFERRING TO THE ONES THAT WANT RENEWABLE ENERGY BUT NOT WHERE THEY LIVE OFF THE KENNEDY COMPOUND. BECAUSE IT COULD SPOIL THEIR VIEW (WHAT EYESIGHT THEY MUST HAVE), I WILL BE MORE CLEAR IN THE FUTURE.
NICK WALL LAKE:
THE FACTS ARE NOT ALL IN !!YOU HAVE JUST AS MANY SCIENTISTS THAT DISPUTE THE SO CALLED FACTS.WHEN YOU SAY "THEY" JUST WHO ARE "THEY". THE WAY I HAVE SEEN THE FACTS IS THIS,SINCE THE BELOVED BEAR POPULATION CAN BE COUNTED AND IT SHOWS THAT THE BEAR NUMBERS HAVE GONE FROM A LOW OF 4,000 TO A NOW 20,000+ AND SINCE THAT COULD NOT BE HIDDEN THE BEARS SUDDENLY BECOME "SMALLER". THERE ARE MORE OF THEM BUT THEY ARE SMALLER, HOW COOL IS THAT. 4 FOOT ICE WILL HOLD A TRACTOR AND "TRAILER" WATCH "ICE ROAD TRUCKERS"THATS WHERE THAT CAME FROM I AM NO ICE EXPERT AND DON'T PRETEND TO BE BUT THEY MAKE A LIVING DOING IT SO I WILL TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT.
AS FAR AS AL GORE'S BOOK AND MOVIE EVEN THE BRITISH COURTS HAVE DEEMED THAT IT CANNOT BE TAUGHT IN THE SCHOOLS WITHOUT TELLING THE STUDENTS THAT IT "IS"POLITICALLY SLANTED AND HAS BAD SCIENCE IN IT. AND DRAWS THE CONCLUSION THAT ON WHAT SUITED HIS AGENDA. SO YOU SEE THE FACTS ARE NOT IN. I AM FOR A CLEAN PLANET I AM AGAINST BEING PUSHED IN A PANIC TOWARDS SOMETHING I HAVE "NOT BEEN CONVINCED OF" AS FAR AS ASKING QUESTIONS WHAT DO YOU THINK I AM DOING,"I AM ASKING QUESTIONS" BUT THEY ARE "MY QUESTIONS" NOT YOURS. AND IN CASE YOU MISSED IT "THEY ARE THE SAME QUESTIONS" ONLY FROM POLAR OPPOSITE ENDS. I WANT THE RIGHT SNOT THE POLITICALLY CORRECT A ANSWER. THE PEOPLE THAT COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY THE GOVERNMENT SPENDS ARE THE PEOPLE THAT SAY THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT SPENDING ENOUGH ON THE ENVIRONMENT. SO WHICH IS IT, THEY SPEND TOO MUCH OR NOT ENOUGH.OR DOES IT DEPEND ON WHAT YOU SEE AS WORTHY ??? I HOPE I CLEARED UP PERSONAL POSITION NOT POLITICAL POSITION.ODDS ARE THIS WILL NOT BE POSTED BECAUSE IT MIGHT HURT SOME ONES FEELINGS.

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alex, michigan — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:11:57 GMT

WAKE UP PEOPLE! it is completely IMPOSSIBLE to know what has happened to this planet since the beginning of time. keep in mind there was a period where sailing to the edge of the earth meant you may fall off. science can only explain so much. someone please tell me, what did the polar ice caps look like 2 billion years ago?

take science out of the equation for a moment. even if there we are the problem, is it possible to get everyone on the planet involved? the answer is a resounding NO. wouldn't everyone agree that world peace is a larger issue? if we could get everyone in the world to agree on ONE single thing would this not be it? fortunately for us we can adapt to a changing climate. we have the technology.

what about the war in iraq? what about darfur? what about the clean water crisis? child pornography? methamphetamines? starving children? the problems in china? the problems in haiti? and the ever-apparent problems right here at home in the good ol' U.S. of A.? perhaps we need to start fixing humanities problems and the earth and her climate take her course. they don't call her mother nature for no reason.

its also important to note its also important to note that the sun is expanding and getting hotter. the galaxy is also pulling away from itself, and the rate it is happening at is not constant, but increasing. we are giving ourselves far too much credit. if the polar ice caps completely melt, we will be under water... but not for long. the oceans will cool off and desalinate, potentially throwing the planet into an ice age..... which will just so happen to be the 5th the planet has seen (that we know about). are we going to take credit for the other 4? maybe the world warmed up in mere ANTICIPATION of our existence.

someone please buy me a prius, and i will gladly drive it to work. until then i will continue to drive my cadillac... which gets 27mpg.

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john florida — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:17:12 GMT

MORGAN HARMAN:
THANK YOU FOR A CLEAR STATEMENT OF THE :FACTS: NOT THE FICTION THAT ALL TOO MANY ARE WILLING TO BELIEVE WITHOUT ABSOLUTE PROOF.BUT YOU WILL BE LARGELY IGNORED BECAUSE IT DOES NOT FIT IN WITH THE NEW RELIGION OF GLOBAL WARMING. I ON THE OTHER HAND AM WITH YOU .
PASCAL PARIS:
FOR A FRENCH MAN YOU HAVE IT NAILED. THIS IS ABOUT ELECTION PROPAGANDA. THIS IS THE START OF NEW QUEST TO BLAME THE PRESENT GOVERNMENT FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE FOR GENERATIONS.
I AM IN FAVOR OF A CLEAN PLANET BUT I WILL NOT BE TAKEN DOWN THE GARDEN PATH BY THE LIKES OF AL GORE OR ROBERT KENNEDY JR. THEY BOTH CARRY WAY TOO MUCH BAGGAGE. AND I DON'T WANT A DO WHAT I SAY AND NOT AS I DO BUNCH TELLING ME HOW TO LIVE.I DO AS MUCH AS I CAN ON MY OWN NOT BECAUSE OF SOME PHONY PREACHING TO ME. I WANT PEOPLE LIKE MORGAN HARMAN TO LEAD THIS NOT SOME POLITICAL HACK.THE MORE POLITICIANS GET INVOLVED THE MORE I SHY AWAY FROM IT. WHAT SCHOOLING DID AL GORE OR ROBERT KENNEDY JR.HAVE ON ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE THAT WOULD MAKE THEM EXPERTS ON THE SUBJECT.THE ONLY CLAIM TO FAME THEY HAVE IS MONEY AND CONNECTIONS IN WASHINGTON TO PUSH THE RELIGION OF "GLOBAL WARMING" LET'S NOT QUESTION THEM OR THEIR MOTIVES LET'S INSTEAD FOLLOW LIKE LEMMINGS OF A CLIFF. SCREW GORE AND HIS MOVIE AND HIS BULLS*** NOBEL PRIZE. HE MADE HIS MONEY RAPING THE LAND AND NOW HE HAS RELIGION, PLEASE GIVE ME A BRAKE.SO NOW HE IS OUT OF MINING AND WANTS TO SELL "CARBON OFFSETS" BETTER KNOWN AS "SNAKE OIL"WHAT BETTER WAY TO TO START A NEW VENTURE THAN TO HAVE THE U.S. GOVERNMENT PUSH IT BECAUSE IT IS POLITICALLY CORRECT. WHAT AN ABUSE OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.

Polar bear off the starboard

Jean Hurley, Ft. Myers, Fl — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:50:51 GMT

Some one should send a ticket to Al Gore to go live in the North Pole instead of his mansion to lessen his contribution to global warming.