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Penelope Nichols Miami Fla — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:44:22 GMT

I'm so sadden by what I just read, These poor, poor people. I can't understand how something like this can be happen. Keep praying to Jesus he will answer your prayers, and I Penelope Nichols will fall on my keens every night for the people of Pakistan and their family. God Bless You All.

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Kate, Franklin TN — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:45:00 GMT

Really telling people they can not sell their organs is like telling children they must not work. Would you really rather see people starve to death? Most people here have no idea what it is like to have nothing and have no prospects to improve their lives. Here you can work hard and make an opportunity, there you have nothing but squaller and the possibility of more squaller for your kids. If they have nothing else to sell and people in the first world countries was it badly enough at least make it legal so the donors have some expectation of safety. Making it illegal will force it underground where you will see butcher shop set ups where once you had these hospitals.

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Justin, Jacksonville FL — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:52:47 GMT

It's a shame that buying and selling organs isn't legal in all countries. Then people wouldn't have to travel to where there is a black market and there wouldn't be transplant lists with thousands of names on them. Those who wish to donate could to those would could not afford to pay. But alas hundreds of thousands of people die each year because of un-donated organs.

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STAN GREY, SMITHTOWN,NY — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:07:56 GMT

THE SELLING OF KIDNEYS COULD BE A BLESSING FOR MANKIND IF IT WERE DONE WITH PROPER RESPECT FOR THE DONOR. LAPROSCOPICALLY REMOVING A DONORS KIDNEY IS MINIMALLY INVASIVE, REQUIRES A 2 DAY HOSPITAL STAY, AND 2 WEEKS RECUPERATION BEFORE RESUMING A NORMAL LIFE, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME SAVING SOMEONE ELSES LIFE. DONE UNDER CORRECT CIRCUMSTANCES, THIS ENABLES POOR PEOPLE TO IMPROVE THEIR LIVES, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME SAVING ANOTHER LIFE.
WITHOUT A DONOR 10 YEARS AGO, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE DEAD TODAY.
INSTEAD, I GO TO WORK EVERY DAY, AND LEAD A FAIRLY NORMAL LIFE.

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Jon, Pasbwadom, Haiti — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:17:05 GMT

So this is where "selling your soul to the devil" starts. I never thought I'd see it in print. The Bible says that Blood is life. And I belive that any organ that functions in your body could be classified the same way. As Masih said, he doesn't have the strength to go to work like he used to. Where will it stop? It's life they're selling. One day when you're rich enough you'll be able to buy a poor discouraged man's body if you promise him a few days of happiness before taking it. Some things are wrong and should not be accepted. You don't allow a child to sell off a finger joint or two if he wants a piece of candy do you? What are we living for?

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Jack Harris Detroit MI — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:48:10 GMT

The shortage of organs for transplantation in Israel has also created practices that are far from ethical. In recent years reports have been published in Israel about Israelis who travel and who buy a kidney for transplantation from poor immigrant workers.

Interestingly, the Jewish Halacha does not forbid selling or buying organs from the living, even if the seller is poor or in debt.

Funny how Israel is never mentioned. Its always the Arab countries and sometimes an European nation...

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Tony Texarkana, TX — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:48:52 GMT

As with any other procedure started to help people this one will soon spiral out of control because of greed and corruption. Where is the government, couldn't they just help these people instead of them having to give up their vital organs. This is another classic case of an U.S. Government ally(China, Japan..etc., indulging in gross human rights violations as well as good old Communist activities such as opresssion of free speech, religious practices and lifestyle choices. This adminastration's head is turned because of the economic interest. We say we are getting tough on Terrorism, yet we support and finance Communism, HMMMM!!!

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Jimmy Deen — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:49:34 GMT

Its a shame how corrupt and greedy that nation has become over the years , the corrupt politicans have high-jacked that country , From Presedant Ayub Khan to
z.a.Bhutto,Zia-ul-haq,Yayah khan,and present leaders Baynazir Bhutto,and Nawaz Sharif all are equally resposible for this state of affair , a country that was made in the name of Islam is a disgrace I being a Pakistani-American feel so saddend and ashamed, when British was leaving somebody asked What will happen now? They said now the corrupt Politicans will rob this nation left and right.

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Ray Stefl, Denton, TX — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:51:02 GMT

It is a sad thing, but people do what the got to do. In the USA $500 is not that much money, so if that is what is needed to pay debts, why not. Very honorable to give so much to get out of debt. I wish the USA would quit letting folks file bankruptcy, make them sacrafice to pay their debt.

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justin davis, manhattan, ks — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:51:05 GMT

If you sell your kidney you deserve to die. $3000.00 i could piss 3 grand. im going tthere to buy my self a kidney and well probly laugh. well good day to you all

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Jeffrey Broman, Gulfport, MS — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:57:31 GMT

It's rather interesting that the list of buyers for these organs come mainly from countries with government mismanaged health care.

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Dustin, Flint, MI — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:58:17 GMT

Great point Jon from Haiti, you see the big picture, these kidney sales are a short term solution, if even, that to a long term problem. What's next? Cloning yourself to have spare parts in case you break down. Look how our decisions today lead to the problems of tomorrow.

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Ron Charest — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:04:10 GMT

The best observation of the the entire organ donar transplant process is this: Everyone in the entire process of doctors, nurses, and transportation personnel are paid for their work, but not the person donating the organ.

Perhaps we should really be looking at the entire organ transplate industry. Why should we be suppoting the efforts of doctors to extend a person's life by giving them someone else's organ? Most people receive organ transplats as a result of poor preventive health practices. Why shouldn't we be looking at getting people to lead healthy lifestyles instead of fixing them after they screw themselvs up?

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Ramesh Manghirmalani, California — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:04:22 GMT

It is shocking,I wish I can help.It is when corrupt government , spends all the money in buying arms and keeping money for themselves.Why Govt cannot take action? No education, that is what you get.

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Bonnie, Muscatine, IA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:08:24 GMT

Stan,
If you advocate "poor" people selling organs and improving their lives I want to know the method you suggest for "pricing" the organ? Just because you are poor does that mean the donor should take whatever price a medicalpractice/harvesting/management company/recruiter...decides? I think people living in poverty need to be protected by such devious predators!

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Jihad Jay — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:09:37 GMT

Drawing equivalence between a child selling off a finger joint for candy and a cognizant adult selling a kidney which will save another life is ludicrous.

I agree with the others who decry the deplorable conditions of the transplant industry. Work on providing conditions where transplant work isn't being done in a medieval environment.

And leave the Bible outta this one. It's not life their selling...it's a kidney. I doubt the Biblical writers of the 1st and 2nd centuries had organ transplants on their minds when they wrote their pieces.

Finally, we know what we're living for when we know who we really are.

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anne berry baltimore ,md. — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:20:54 GMT

it's tragic, it's risky & it should be illegal if these poor people don't get the proper medical/surgical procedures & attention due for such an operation.

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James Q Brown — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:24:06 GMT

For vital non-duplicated organs we should all sign up to be donors upon our death. I am not a fan of regulation, but organ transplants should be strictly regulated- meaning post-operation care and enforced compensation. Unlike the drug trade which can be completely stopped for the good of all, organ donation must expand legally with the illegal trade crushed. The whole blood is life argument can be applied only to those who believe that, otherwise the low blood loss surgery techniques which are tested on them will need alot more practice.

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joe taylor — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:28:52 GMT

The sad truth is if the bushite republicans in this country could figure out a way to legally (morally doesn't matter) make money off the kidneys of poor americans, they would do it!! then just have karl marx! whoops i mean rove!!do his little spin job on it. screwing american citizens is just not what they care about, the allmighty buck is where they're loyalty lays.

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shaun fogarty, portland, oregon — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:36:52 GMT

rich people in America should be able to buy whatever they want, whenever they want it, screw international law or any quaint morals. If the "donor" needs that second kidney later... tough. If the conditions under which the kidney is removed are un sanitary and lead to infection... tough. We rule the world, and our bloated, diabetic, liquor and pharmaceutical riddled bodies are going to be needing lots and lots of spare parts, so line up.

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Peter Griffin — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:36:54 GMT

I will have two kidneys, one liver and some of those eye balls... ahmm... Do you have some fresh lungs? Ok, put them in the bag with the liver will ya? Thank you.

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Justin, Jacksonville FL — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:39:10 GMT

Bonnie in Muscatine, IA:

As with any market system the price is set by the suppler. If I'm willing to sell my organs for what they are offering then they will have to offer more. If they won’t offer more then they will have to find another suitable donor. This is the case no matter how poor I am. In the case of organs it can sometimes be hard to find a match making the supply scarce and the demand high.

And for everyone else: Why is it ok to sell/buy blood but not organs? Why has the line been drawn there? I would guess that if we dug deep enough it has religious roots as many other unfounded laws/rules in modern society.

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Christopher Archie Houston Texas — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:41:52 GMT

Ron said it well; everyone gets paid in the organ donor BUSINESS but the donor. If this country would stop being so greedy and hypocritical, we may have a health care system that works for the average family, before this is the group that’s selling off their organs.

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Sara Frances, Laurel, MS. — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:45:53 GMT

Being an organ doner is a positive thing, but buying and selling organs in an environment where it is done out of desperation or even, God forbid, against the doners will is totally different. These people should never need to make the decision of whether to keep your kidney or pay off a debt or feed your family. These people are making uninformed decisions and putting their lives at risk because of selfish individuals from first world countries who place no value on any human life but their own.
If our country is so concerned with helping others in need, then this is where our attention needs to be focused. On people who need and want help.
I am sure this issue isn't confined to Pakistan, so anyone in this environment, know that you are in my prayers.
God Bless!

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I am sorry, anycity, anystate — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:48:20 GMT

Hunger and Poverty are the root of desperation. When we as a single humankind realize this and work towards terminating these most horrifying of all ills, can there be a real change which is impactful and lasting...

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Sam, Cols, Ohio — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:48:31 GMT

If it's admirable to donate your kidney to a brother in order to save his life, why isn't it also a good thing to do it to save your father from the consequences that come from his debts? I'm not about the guess how the debts came about, I'll just take the face value of the action taken by the son to help his father. Self sacrifice for another's gain.

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Bridgitte Long, San Diego, California — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:51:49 GMT

I am one of those people that will be on that long list for a kidney. I have a genetic disease (PKD)that destroys the kidneys. Usually strikes when you are a child. there is no cure or treatment. I have never smoked and have lived a fairly normal life until now. Whether it is disease, cancer, accident, or another cause; people who need transplants are just that people. We have families, work, friends, and a life. Most of us are still asking "why me?" I still hold out hope that I will be one of the lucky ones to get a transplant but the odds aren't on my side. Please donate blood, plasma, have your bone marrow tested and get the pink dot on your driver's license indicating that you are an organ donor. tell your friends and family and urge them to do the same. Make a lifetime commitment to saving others and maybe, just maybe there won't be a need for kidneys to be bought and sold in the blackmarket.

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JoeWe — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:53:52 GMT

I think selling your organs should be left up to ones own judgement, but it should be done properly, not in a buthers shop.

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wake up — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:55:28 GMT

WAKE UP!!! Pakistan's poor are not alone. Exploitation happens everywhere. this article selected poor chirstians in a muslim doninated country. would any of you care if this happened to poor muslims in a christian dominated country. i didn't think so.

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JOSHUA LEE BERMUDEZ — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:56:52 GMT

SICK SAD LITTLE WORLD!!!

I'M JUST WAITING FOR HUMANITY TO GET DONE WITH ALL THESE PRE OCCUPATIONS AND START HELPING EACH OTHER OUT, SO THERE ISN'T A HUNGRY MOUTH TO FEED OR A SICK PERSON NEEDING TO BE HEALED BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IT. COME ON THIS IS RIDICULOUS, THE WHOLE POINT OF LIFE IS NOT ABOUT MONEY. IT'S ABOUT DOING WHAT WE WERE SENT HERE AND THAT IS TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT IN ANY WAY WE CAN. MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO GIVE THEIR ALL TO LET THEIR CHILDREN SEE ONE MORE DAY OF LIGHT

PEACE!

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John, Reno, NV — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:06:04 GMT

Thank you for bringing this story to light, now I know where to go if I'm in kidney failure.

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Raul Gonzalez Miami Florida — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:06:58 GMT

As a human being i am not surprised at this, after all with money you can buy anything.But lets not forget the golden rule do unto others as you would have them do unto you.I will pray for those less fortunate then me.I do think though that their government shuold try and help.

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New Kidney, Houston TX — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:22:54 GMT

Bridgitte Long, be positive and keep the faith! I also have PKD and my kidneys finally failed 3 years ago. Thanks to a generous friend, I received a kidney a year ago and is living a normal life today.
I wish more people will agree to be donors and save a life. And to Ron Charest - you are totally wrong if you think all people need a transplant because of poor preventative care. No matter how many times I would visit a doctor, my kidneys still failed because of a genetic disease not because I did not do something medically!!

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Tony Stonenfeller, Green Bay, Wisconsin — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:24:09 GMT

This article is appalling. You take the poor man's kidney and have some butcher perform the surgery without any regard for the man's well-being. Any country that doesn't ban this type of acitivity should be sanctioned by the UN for violating human rights!!!

$3,000 may not sound like a lot of money to most people, but if this guy only earns a couple of dollars a day at his real job, it could take years to make that much money much less pay off any debts.

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Steve Minnesota — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:31:13 GMT

Strange. Most all of the comments I see here are from other Americans. I would be considerably more interested in seeing in print, the thoughts of those who have sold a kidney so that they and their families would have the means to feed and shelter themselves. Yes, the article might have spoken to a few, but too narrow by far the scope. And the self-righteous indignation of those writing. Who are you to judge? That's right, you are nobody.

The sale of organs has been going on and will continue to go on for many years to come. There is nothing wrong with it, except religiously. Ethically? Yeah right. Morals and ethics long ago took a backseat to the desire to live. Those who need the kidneys to survive will do whatever it takes to get them. Why is that wrong?

Just because the manner in whiich this is occurring doesn't fit into our narrow view of "How it oughta be", doesn't mean it's not right.

That said, if anything should be done, the amount paid to those donating kidneys should go up sharply. That is what should be regulated. Making sure those who do this are properly compensated for their loss.

THere is nothing inherently wrong with organ donation. One day it may teach us a greater level of humanity.

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csy — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:34:44 GMT

Good points made by both sides...I found myself going back and forth as I read the comments. Right now, I like what "Sam, Cols, Ohio" wrote. NBA players Sean Elliott (donor = his brother) and Alonzo Mourning (donor = his cousin) received kidneys donated by relatives who I doubt were even mildly destitute, yet many view that as admirable sacrifices. Was this Pakistani Christian's desire to save his own family any less admirable? If there was a way for this kind of thing to be done w/o corruption of exploitation, maybe it's worth considering.

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Sharan Aminy — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:35:54 GMT

Pakistanis like other South Asians are at a high risk for diabetes. With little or no formal education many of the world's poor probably have no idea how internal organs really function or how vital they are to ones survival. Should such people be exploited beacuse deprivation and hunger drives them? Even if the pain of kidney removal could be minimized, what sought of medical problems would donors like Maasih face later? Would they have access to decent health care if they required it later? I ask myself what would I be prepared to pay to live or to keep a loved one alive. I would not want to endanger the health and well being of anyone let alone a stranger, even if I had the financial aility to buy a kidney. Regarding my loves ones...I would offer my own. I am South Asian with a family full of diabetics including a husband who is diabetic, so this might be a possibility. When we take responsibility for our bodies and actions, children and adults at risk for kidney exploitation/theft will have a chance to live, even if they live in poverty. America has its poor as well so poverty, indebtedness and hardship are not strangers in our midst. Would we want our poor in America to be exploited thus?

Sharan Aminy

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T. McLeod — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:38:34 GMT

I used to list myself as an organ donor but no longer do so. I used to give blood (several gallon pins)but no longer do so. 'Science'and 'medicine' are so completely out of control, and 'modern' society is in such deep denial of death and the consequences of our own behavior, than I can no longer support or condone the wanton disregard of reality posed by invasive medicine. When my ticket is punched, it will be my turn to die. Until then, it is my own responsibility to pay attention to my health.
We live in a society where so-and-so 'needs' a fill-in-the-blank organ transplant. Actually, they don't. They got the standard issue. If circumstances are such that that is inadequate--deal with it. And don't come up with that brilliant comeback: what if it were you? or someone you love? We're all going to die. It's probably a good idea to come to grips with that.
We should make our time as full of life as we can, paying attention as we go. Then we can be glad of what we had on this planet and look forward to whatever comes next--if anything.

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G. Smith, Portland — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:45:22 GMT

I work in organ transplant, and it's true some patients require organ transplant because of their willing non-compliance of treatments for previously existing diseases...but that is not always the case! There are people born everyday with genetic disorders, autoimmune diseases and anatomical abnormalities which require intervention and sometimes transplant! Just wanted to clarify that -

And I don't think that some form of compensation would be unreasonable but it becomes a very sticky situation when $$$$ is involved. There is a reason the system is set up this way, but if y'all have a better idea then please write your senator.

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James Q Brown — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:51:32 GMT

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Manuel r portland oregon — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:54:13 GMT

what do you guys know about poverty!!!!!!
when you dont have food for your childrens or the more basic stuff to live you will sell you soul to hell. this i know I HAVE BEEN THERE. all you know is what you see or hear. different is when is happening to you in life.

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J. Kennedy — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:57:05 GMT

When I hear how badly people treat/exploit others it makes me happy to know that we will never get off of this rock and spread the human disease. The farther we try and seperate ourselves from the animals we really are, the worse we become.

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joe flores — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:57:55 GMT

Terrible dillema. I wonder what God would say to these kind of transactions.

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M. Hall, Colorado Springs, Colorado — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:59:25 GMT

Poo Poo to the whos, I say! It sucks that Tariq Masih felt he had no other choice but to sell a kidney to pay off his father's debt, but it was his choice to do so. That said, we should all think very carefully about, and take responsibility for, our choices. This man will likely live the rest of his (undoubtedly shortened) life in chronic pain and misery, for the sake of honoring his father's debt. I (and most Americans) cannot relate to the abject poverty that is commonplace in other countries, much less understand just what can drive a man to give up a kidney for any sum of money. It appears to be a case of haves versus have nots, the poor are usually the ones that are shat upon in countless ways. It's the un-changeable way of the world, human nature, as it has been since the dawn of civilization. I take some solace in knowing bad carma will follow bad people like trash behind a whirlwind, and will at some point pay them back for their misdeeds, how or why that works is unclear, but it works. Be good to your fellow men, Santa is watching you!

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STEVEN CRANE, TACOMA, WA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:04:33 GMT

YOU SEE, IT'S THESE TYPES OF HUMAN GREED AND BEHAVIOR THAT WARRANT GOD TO CONTINUOUSLY PUNISH US. bY THAT, I MEAN EARTHQUAKES, TSUNAMIES, FIRES, HUNGER, POVERTY AND SICKNESS. THERE IS A VERY CRITICAL LESSON TO BE LEARNED HERE. MONEY AND GREED AVER THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL. i SAY, BELIEVE IN HELPING OUT EVERYONE WHO IS IN NEED NO MATTER WHAT CREED OR RELIGION THEY ARE. MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON ALL THOSE WHO PRACTICE IN THIS TYPE OF EVIL, WHEN JUDGEMENT DAY COMES.

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STEVEN CRANE, TACOMA, WA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:07:17 GMT

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martha — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:09:38 GMT

helping each other starts with becoming responsible of one's own health physical/mental/spiritual. while there are some genetic diseases, most diseases are self induced, or consequential to multiple medications. being responsible means to not abuse anything and remain healthy. if we all align to responsibility, we'll naturally care for each other, obesity, diabetes, kidney failure will disappear and the need for transplants with it. before judging and blaming ad nauseum, all we need to stop all the planet
's human self downhill evolution is to retrieve dignity in every detail of our life. if we are enough, this atrocious story will cease to exist, because, we'll be healthy, no one will be hungry, and the greedy crowd will have killed each other. As long as I want what you've got, as long as I need more, as long I am first, we are doomed. change needs to come within one person at a time. revisit your day every night: did your bring relief or devastation. stop judging and getting a good conscious cheaply.

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john florida — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:12:41 GMT

Jay Taylor:
how the hell do you get from this man's kidney to Pres>Bush?? It's arguments like your's that take away any credibility that the hate Bush crows might have had.When you make a statement like the on you made you loose the argument for every one.As much as you think you made a deep earth shattering revelation it has got to be one of the DUMBEST THINGS I HAVE EVER READ. You might want to rethink your position!! as for the man selling his kidney, he at least got paid for it (even though i don't agree with it)in this country we have been brainwashed into becoming DONORS.We give our parts away so we can help our fellow man (this is noble)we also give it to the doctor and hospital that charge an arm and a leg (no pun intended) to the person receiving it. Somehow this does not seem fair to the donor or his family.At least the man in this story paid off a debt, as sad as it is.We would like to fault their system but he said it was a debt of honor how many here are as honorable about paying off debts??We may judge the system but can any here judge the man's reasoning??

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Becki - Sacramento California — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:13:18 GMT

I believe that if you would like to donate an organ than that choice should be up to you. If we had more countries willing to let people donate organs and had each country set up a system that protected the donators then this wouldn't even be an issue. That would also eliminate the need for a black market/organ stealing or at least curb it some. If you can benefit your family and save the life of another, then I don't see how this could be a bad thing. It's the process that is the problem not the donation itself. Think of all the lives that could be saved!

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Henry Masson,London,UK — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:15:17 GMT

Tears are running down my cheeks while reading the sad story about the Pakistani people selling their kidneys to pay off their, or their parents's debt.The government shoud help these poor Pakistani people.
May God bless you all who have to sacrifice so much to settle their debts.

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albert james baltimore maryland — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:20:11 GMT

Who's bying the organs? Americans?

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Carl W., Bayonne, New Jersey — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:21:11 GMT

Don't point the finger at Pakistan or any other third world country for not being able to protect its' people from being exploited. When will the power brokers of the world take some real ownership in these matters and do something in a tangible way to curb the behaviors of their nationals? There are far too many model citizens of the EU, Japan,the US, Australia, Canada, etc. who go to these countries to exploit the poor people of lesser developed nations. And not one member state of the EU, UN, the IMF or any of these international bodies does a thing to stop the exploitation of the poor, particularly women and children.

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jon — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:21:36 GMT

Unfortunaly, this practice is widely spread like cancer in the poor third world contries... No wise guy will agree on this!!!
I do not know what to say... but im trying to feel the bitterness of life on the side of those poor people in the thirld world, while our brothers, humans, like us, live on the other side of the globe are enjoying 80% or more of the wealth of the planet earth.
saddly, some one call it " transplant terror" but what the developed countries did for us.
they took porsperity at their side, and left us with poor status, they support our rotten corrupted government, and keep the good things for them... and they come and cry on us!

there is no support for this market!
but there is no salvage for those poor people from the Bite of the struggle to survive!

Diffcult equation
but one got to do what must to do!
:(:(:(

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Arthur Nicholas — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:24:37 GMT

This sounds great! How about repeat offender illegal alien made kidneys, lungs, and livers. Store them in the INS office, and sell them for parts. This will solve the costs of the U.S. caring, and providing social care in the form of subsidized food, housing, medical assistance and education (not to mention I-loans). Every time we catch a repeat offender, we sell a part before we send them back! Heck, why let the Pakistanis make all the profit. We should have thought about this years ago. Think of it as adult stem cell research. Every year we dump millions of unused fetuses (another sub-class of humans that don't count) into garbage dumps and just burn them (like the Nazis did the Jews 1940-1945). Since we are already behaving like Nazis with the fetuses, why not show some initiative and make an even bigger profit off of wealthy people that want to live longer with a new kidney? The only parts that we shouldn't sell, are the anuses. We should continue to place those in public office at the municipal, state and federal levels, while sending the more desirable anuses to Hollywood.

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Zia Qureshi, Houston, TX — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:30:45 GMT

Greedy doctors are even stealing kidneys. Poor people are being drugged and when they wake up a kidney is missing. Some do not even know how they got this scar from.

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Carla Cedar Park, TEXAS — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:33:53 GMT

I find it incredible that poverty still exists! This is 2007, and yet there is still poverty--why can't we fix this problem? Why are people not able to get heath care that they desperately need? It seems evryone is more worried about a faster computer, car, bigger house, etc. Why can't these resources be used to combat poverty? Because there is no 'profit' from trying to help these people. If we cannot combat the poverty/health care problem in the U.S., how are we going to eradicate it???

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Vicki, Georgia — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:39:33 GMT

It is an appalling story. With the opulence in which we live, that in today's world people are so poor that they even need to consider selling an organ. I don't have an answer, although it seems that the donors need protection from their govenment, or at least guaranteed follow-up care. I wonder why this family couldn't "work" off the debt--although possibly that leads to slavery in such poverty stricken environments. It's sad that his only option was to sell a kidney, and we stress over a simple dental visit, or where to eat dinner on a Saturday night. We, as Americans take far too much for granted, myself included.

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Rhea Snider Belt, Montana — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:46:27 GMT

I feel sad for the people who feel they must sell their kidneys. I, on the other was on the other side of the fence, in intensive care for 37 days, I was an organ donor. My husband was pressured every single day to turn off my life supports. The medical community has convinced my entire family that I would be a vegetable if I came out of a horrible accident. On the 16th day I started breathing on my own. I am not a vegetable, I work, I am raising an adopted son who is 16 years old. My husband stopped the process. I had a good chance of life. The ironic thing is that now my husband is in renal failure due to a large amount of antibiotics given to him when he had pertinitus to keep him alive. Can we afford a kidney?. No! Would we want one under criminal and unethical conditions. The answer is the same. But I would donate if I was a match.
The medical community was absolutely steller in keeping me alive but my husband was the true hero by saying "no" giving me a chance. My plea is this, give your loved ones a chance if they do have to have life supports, then if all fails, donate their organs, there is a need! Remember, it took 16 days for me to start breathing on my own, and at times I had no brain waves or blood pressure was nothing. I did take the organ donation off of my drivers license though, I am going to leave that decision to my family. If my husband had been unable to talk, I would be a part of someone, perhaps a cornea, two kidneys, a heart, skin, bone marrow, liver. Wonderful contributions! Giving others a chance too.
Do I want a kidney for my hubby? Yes, but not at the expense of others. Organ donation should be regulated. Thanks

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Sharan Aminy, Alameda, California — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:47:37 GMT

It is one thing to improve the human condition by becoming an organ donor, quite another to put organs up for sale and thereby create situations where there will be those who will profit at some other's expense. Where donating is an act of free will, organ trade is based on social inequity. Expolitation frequently results in death. Dr. Nancy Scheper Hughes of UC Berkeley is an excellent resource on global organ trade as well as other pressing ethical concerns regarding health and the human condition. Those interested might want to research organ watch and Hughes'work.

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Abdul H. Babar, MD, Lahore, Pakistan — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:59:16 GMT

As a Pakistani and a physician, I am ashamed of the practice of sale of kidney that has been going on for years. I am very much ashamed and let down by our politicians who have failed to take notice of this exploitation of their citizens. Thank God finally judiciary in Pakistan has attained certain level of independance from corrupt political set up. The Chief Justice of supreme court of pakistan has taken suo motto action on this curse and has ordered the parliament to inact a law to ban sale of human organs. After a prolonged delay this law has been promulgated as of Sept. 3, 2007. Now anyone engaging in the practice of buying kidneys fron unrelated donors will be punished with 10 years behind bars. I hope this law can be made universal and applicable in all countries of the world.

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N. A., Seattle, Washington — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:08:41 GMT

This is a propaganda piece to import sympathy for ecnomically marginalized Christians living in a predominantly Muslim country. On the surface it appears a pity piece about survival for the poor; but the underlying message is a dig at Islam and ecnomic structure of a Muslim country. Since Islam forbids organ transplantation especially for profit, the piece posits economic issues of minority of Christians against this backdrop while cajoling the reader to believe that the poor can only sell themselves (and their body parts) to move themselves out of oppressive poverty imposed upon them by harsh Islamic laws. Since the majority of readers live in Christian countries, the reader ask why cannot the countries change these laws and the regulatory agencies which impose such harshness on the poor. Moreover, the reader will then assert the position (if they are Christian) that there should be laws against punitive laws against Christians imposed by Muslims. And so it goes...this war on terrorism which continuously assaults Islamic values.

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Jim, MO — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:13:14 GMT

Ah, Manuel is lecturing us on "poverty?" Then, pray tell, why you chose to have children you could not feed, yet you obviously can afford a computer and Internet access? By the way, I know a wee bit about poverty as I've been unemployed for more than a year now due to work-related (but not officially "disabling") injuries. Perhaps you should return to your home country so that you can enjoy your poverty....

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Jim, MO — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:24:52 GMT

Odd, I can sell my house, my car, or even my dog, but not an organ which belongs--undeniably--to me? Why have we allowed the most corrupt of a bad bunch, politicians, to dictate the limits of an individual's rights? As if that weren't bad enough, then we bring that same supernatural being responsible for Hell, the War on Terror, the Crusades, 9/11, the Salem witch trials, the Intifada, and all other ills based on "faith" into it... I guess "we" are never responsible for our own actions.

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Rebecca, Ohio — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:29:03 GMT

In response to Ron Charest, some people do not always get transplants as a result of not taking care of themselves. I recommend you go to www.pkdcure.org. PKD is an inherited kidney disease, that slowly manifests itself over the course of one's life. No matter how healthy a lifestyle you lead, 50-60% of the time your kidneys will fail, transplant is not a cure...but the best alternative.

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Kenneth Mathurin, Caribbean — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:40:04 GMT

I hear about people "donating" blood and it's applauded. I hear about people "selling" organs and it's appalling. This article brings to light the plight of the destitute and the lenghts some of them are "fortunate" to go to, even temporarily. What's disturbing though, is the fact someone would go in for surgery of a different nature and come out oragn less without the approval or knowledge of the "theft", whilst the "surgeons" continue LIFE !!

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Charlotte — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:47:55 GMT

I am a live organ donor. I donated a kidney to a friend and the thought of being paid for that, is insane. The fact that someone is going to live is payment enough for me. I just had the opportunity to make someone else's life easier. It was an honor to see the changes in her once my kidney started working. The problem with donations is that people are afraid or misinformed. I will be donating what is left when I die. What will it hurt?

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Robert in Riverside, CA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:55:24 GMT

I agree with an earlier post. Anyone needing an organ due to intentional self damage, such as a liver due to alcohol consumption, lungs due to smoking etc., should be denied access to a new organ until everyone else has been taken care of first. How many time we have seen the wealthy get two and even three transplants due to health damage caused by alcohol and drug abuse when children have been left to die because no organs were available???

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Joe Fatabuichi — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:56:57 GMT

Surely people from Canada and the UK wouldn't do this, not with their wonderful, utopian health care system so many are encouraging the US to emulate.

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Lynn Erice — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:58:59 GMT

I totally agree that we in this country have no idea what it's like to be so poor that $3000 is an unimaginable fortune to us. Imagine what choices the people in the poorest countries have. They are lucky to make a dollar a day. In Bangladesh, they make about that for stripping old tankers and other ships, extremely dangerous and difficult work.
I wonder what God is thinking? He forbade taking blood into the body because the soul is in the blood. It is absolutely sacred. Yet the American Red Cross makes billions from blood every year by ramming down people's throats the lie that they need blood. Remember what they did after 9/11? They threw blood away because they had too much!! People die from blood transfusions. Continuing to rely on blood during operations is simply perpetuating the myth that it is okay to use it. Doctors should be concentrating on bloodless operating. They have to with Jehovah's Witnesses!

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Connie, Indianapolis, Indiana — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:01:50 GMT

At least this was a consenting grown man. In our wonderful country, abortionist are ripping apart unborn babies by the thousands every day and selling their organs to hospitals for big bucks!

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Carla S., Jacksonville, FL — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:09:13 GMT

Justin Davis,
I pray that, should you ever find yourself in such desperation that these people have seen, that people will show more compassion for you than you have demonstrated here.

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maria payan, San Diego, CA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:12:25 GMT

When the potential for doing harm outweighs the potential for doing what's good and beneficial, I believe transplants from live donors should stop. That the only way to get an organ (if at all) it should be from a person that is already dead. One that died from natural causes, not murdered. Money is a temptation for Doctors and organ brokers that is too hard to resist. What about the quality of life for the recipient? Is it even worth it? All the crime and sordidness that goes on behind the scenes, maybe they are just selling their eternal souls for a few more years of a miserable life.

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Bob, From Seattle. — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:21:27 GMT

Who Cares, its his to sell, Worry about for own and mind your own business.

Why does a goverment need to protect you from your own stupidity...... Everybody has a choice !!!!

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Samia Khan, Miami, FL — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:38:31 GMT

Doctors who are responsible for the well being of the general society are taking advantage of their education and using it as a weapon instead. This reflects negatively not only on the government but also the educational system that generates doctors that would do anything to make money. Not only are doctors involved in this business, but groups such as the Edhi Center, which is an internationally recognized community service organization, involve themselves in organ traficking without informing the patient. Usually these are poor people who have no idea or say. Well, all I have to say is that the people who are involved in this business will have to pay back for such unethical acts in one way or the other. Maybe one day their own children will trafic their kidneys....good for them..they deserve to die!

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Brigitte, Okinawa, Japan — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:39:29 GMT

There is more to this problem than the selling of kidneys. By making the selling of organs legal, you run into the problem of organs only going to the highest bidder. What about the people that need organ transplants that cannot afford to pay the astronomical fees that will become associated with "buying" a kidney? When that occurs, the world will say, "Oh...those poor pitiful people. They are so poor they cannot afford to buy an organ to survive. We must do something to regulate the selling of organs." It is sad that there are long waiting list of people needing organs, but waiting liss are a fact of life, no matter where you live. The problem is one of overwhelming poverty and that is the issue that must be dealt with.

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Todd, Tucson, AZ — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:39:34 GMT

What honor. While the debate of right and wrong can spin forever, lets take a moment to recognize this man for risking his life to honor family debt and better his childrens lives. We would do good to take a page from this mans book and work toward such integrity in our own lives. Ive never met anyone who would sell an organ to pay a loan payment. It is saddening to know this is the last resort this man had for improving his life but where theres a way there is a will. We practice paying less than fortunate americans for their plasma on a daily basis in this country. Short of a few kind hearted individuals, I bet the majority of donors in those clinics are just as down on their luck (relatively) as this man. Believe it when I say if kidney donation was allowed here the lines would be long, and full of the less than fortunate. It is what it is, and cant be changed. Our governments so conveniently pick and choose what is an issue and what is not, what will get them attention for doing right while so many issues go on without attention. If its attention grabbing or campain winning material you bet your britches we will hear about it. If not its just natures way.

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Greg Berke, Omaha, NE — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:41:13 GMT

I have been on kidney dialysis waiting for a kidney for 6 years. Although I would give just about anything for a transplant the one thing I could never accept would be the circumstances of accepting an organ knowing it was taken in a manner that would result in the death of the donor due to unsafe, unclean, and inappropriate methods be they surgical or otherwise. It appalls me to think that anyone coming from any country where proper surgical procedures and methods to harvest kidneys are in place and dialysis available would be that desperate for themselves to purchase black market kidneys knowing how they have come about. And as for that little puke Justin Davis from Manhattan, KS.....if you are a kidney patient then you should know a transplant is a gift not a right. How dare you. The article speaks of parents selling their kidneys just to feed their children to keep them alive and you speak of them that they are deserving to die? And you say you can piss 3,000.00 to get one. Well you normally get what you pay for. I'm sure you will get what you want. For your sake I hope you don't get what you deserve.

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ali,brooklyn, new york — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:48:36 GMT

IM FROM PAKISTAN.ITS VERY SAD TO READ THIS ,ITS SYSTEM FAULT.....ITS FAULT OF US ALL WE HAVE JOB MONEY AND SOURCES....ALL THE HUMAN WHO HAVE GOOD JOB MONEY.....IF WE ALL WANT A $1 MAKE DIFFRENCE...IN ALL WORLD...PEOPLES IN AFRICA PEPOLES IN ALL OVER THE WORLD.......ITS MINE FAULT TOO....I CAN'T SAY ANY THING IFEEL SAD....BUT I TRY MY BEST TO HELP TO SOME....IF EVERYBODY TRY TO HELP SOME ONE I HOPE POVERTY .... THANK FOR POINT OUT A SERIOUS PROB.

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Anonymous, Dallas, TX — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:51:48 GMT

Wow, this is really sad.

I had no idea stuff like this was going on in Pakistan.

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Gene Zar, Lagrange, Indiana — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:01:07 GMT

If people want to sell their extra kidney ... What is the problem with that? Yes there is corruption involved in some places but thats the norm for everything. Some people don't know how hard it is to see your family suffer and not have enough food every day. This is one way these poorer people can get money. The human body is a gift of nature and a gift that can be shared to help others. Saying prayers will not help these people just make you feel better. You have oil companies ripping people off while the poor suffer to pay for gas to make $5 an hour. I'm tired of well off people dictating what the poor can do...live your own life. Just remember not to buy gasoline on Tuesdays.....

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MRKrouse, Seattle, WA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:04:18 GMT

Oh please! All those who blame the U.S. (and even more ridiculous, Geo. Bush) for the tragic condition that drives people to sell their kidney ought to "put up or shut up!" You want the "government" to do something and you accuse the "government" of being heartless and not caring about conditions in 3rd world countries. The "government" is "us".You feel such anger toward the U.S. and believe you are so righteous just for caring. When was the last time YOU contributed money to organizations dedicated to helping people in the 3rd world countries? You could have sent $500 to pay off this debt! You can say you didn't know, but now you do. I challenge you to contact such organizations to help out financially. Better yet, volunteer to be part of the solution. Or are you just content to feel good for blaming everyone else? Nothing makes me more angry than someone who thinks the "government" is always to blame. Put your money where your mouth is!

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Scott Venable — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:15:02 GMT

Why? we and other countries spend billions on war and the other unconstructive personal interest and just forget that we have people in our countries that need help, due to starvation and poverty, the lack of education and deseaseand other natural disasters,, and we keep electing people that do nothing about the main problems of our times like poverty and hunger and need for medical care and we keep making more war machines instead of taking care of our own and those other humans that deserve care and a home that that so many of us take for granted, when are we as people going to wake up and say enough, stop paying for the personal wars. ( which cost us more than what we would have spent if we had spent it on our people that are in need of care and medication and housing) this country and other countries keep losing work and jobs to countries like china and india and we keep wondering why, well wake up its the people that have all the money and corporations that only thing of the dollar that are doing it they help get polititions in office that are there for there good not the people , like the present president, and were stuck cause we cant impech him we would end up with channie, who is just as bad as the one we have and we dont vote for people that are good for the country we vote for people that are good for just our own persoanl interest, wake up people if its not good for the country its not good for youre interest, these people in this story are a example of what happens to countrys that are not conserned about there people and ours is next. STOP voting for politicions that talk about the war, and big bussiness and Vote for the ones that talk about poverty. jobs and keeping the American way of life, the ones that no we need a national heath care, that we need jobs , that we need care for the old and displaced people of this country, think what the billions of dollars spent on this war could have bought us in a better way of life here and in contries that are our allies, not counties like China. Remeber New Orleans. if that had been wqashington DC would it have happened there, No there would have been instant aid to them and if it had been New York or Las Angelas, no they get aid ASP, but new Orleans , it took weeks and still the city is in ruins, WHY, because they were poor the ones that cant vote cause they have to many other needs to wrroy about some A-H precident that doesnt help them when they need it and same goes for the rest of this country, you look the other way when you see poverty on your door step and do nothing, WAKE UP AMERICA, at the rate its going there well be more poverty and police at your door in a short time we are becoming the same thing that we hung germans for after WWll and want be long befor we have a SS inforcing the laws to keep people like me quite Be Aware. Time is running out for this country, dont believe it, study history.

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Peter, Honolulu, Hawaii — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:16:06 GMT

All I can say and add to this is that I really hope that none of you people with major "ETHICAL" issues regarding harvest and sale of donor kidneys or any other organs for transplant ever have to suffer the terrible side effects and every single day health conditions that you or the people you love suffer from, should take a BIG LOOK in the mirror, because one day it will happen to you, someone in your immediate family or someone you know personally.

If there could development of a medically safe industry in a regulated, supervised and monitored medical environment for something like this, I would be the first in line to purchase a donor kidney. Let me explain in full detail why that is...

My wife of 15 years has severe Type II (Adult On-set) diabetes which means she end-stage renal kidney failure. Simply put, this requires her to take dialysis treatments just to survive and she has done so for nearly five years now. If I could legally "buy or purchase" a kidney to end this night-mare we live with DAILY, I would without so much as a second thought given.

You can ask any person who takes dialysis treatments and they will all say that very same thing. The chance to extend my wife's life and to provide a better quality of live for her would be something I would gladly pay for.

I DARE you people who think this is considered to be "Unethical" to go visit your local kidney dialysis treatment center and stay there for one full-day. Watch how painful it is for a dialysis patient to take this treatment - look at their face and look into their eyes as they take their treatments - then once you see for yourself, you WILL CHANGE YOUR MIND.

I am a fine shining example of this being a primary care provider for my spouse, and if it wasn't for me, she would die - doing this alone is a full-time job, not to mention the full-time professional job I have. I work two full-time jobs and will do so for the rest of my life...and guess what people? My wife still WORKS FULL-TIME AND HAS THIS DREADED DISEASE - SO WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION?

I guarantee you people with the your so-called "hang-ups and issues" could not take it - and, again, guess what - this is the WAY MY SPOUSE AND I LIFE EVERY SINGLE DAY AND IT WILL BE THAT WAY FOR THE REST OF OUR NATURAL LIVES

Get over your ethical issues and grow the hell up!

I tried to give my wife one of my own kidneys, but we were not an exact blood-type match...I've done and tried to do everything possible to care and comfort my spouse, but again, it will never be enough by any means.

We are currently on two kidney donor lists for an organ transplant, which has an average wait of 5 to 7 YEARS - YES 5 TO 7 YEARS (and that's what we are told), is a very, very long time to do.

Even so, there are no guarantees that she'll even get a kidney donated one day, but all we can do is pray and hope - so why not give people like us an alternate medical option for choosing a better quality life?

That's all I'm going to say, so to take what I've written here to heart and put your so-called "ethics" on the shelf dammit and "PRETTY PLEASE"!

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Margaret Heekin — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:17:42 GMT

This is a TRAGEDY. To think a human being has no other choice than to sell off a piece of his body to profiteers. I don't care how the organ is "harvested". Nobody will ever be able to convince me that there is no better solution than this. It is simply barbaric and another form of genocide.

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Sophie, Brandon, MS — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:19:23 GMT

First of all, the American Government needs to tend to the needs of the AMERICAN PEOPLE! Buying & seeling organs is a practice that is as old as dirt. If those of you who oppose this practice were handed a death sentence, but then told if you had an organ you could live, am quiet sure most would empty their bank accounts for the option to live. It is sad that anyone is exploited in this practice; but just as sad is the fact that worse things happen to some people right here in the USA. Lets fix those issues before we are "emergency service" for yet ANOTHER country.

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Michael Vilkin — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:26:03 GMT

Why rich liberals like Soros do not invest in construction of housing in Pakistan?
I bet a dollar, poverty would have been eradicated long ago.

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nicole, randolph, nj — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:28:16 GMT

Money does not get you everything in life, even sometimes it gets you less. There are plenty of jobs out there and people are just taking the lazy way out of it. They are in no way thinking of their children because their just going to die. But on the other side organ donation is so little in the states we have people dieing on waiting lists for the organs and this shouldn't be happening. We need to be worrying about our country not other countries because we have people starving and dieing and nobody gives a damn.

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Denver, Co — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:33:23 GMT

They never stated how he became in debt. Probably lost it in the alley betting on Michigan this past weekend....

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Z. Hardge, N. Las Vegaas, Nevada — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:35:55 GMT

Tony from TX, how can you say this is communist. This is as capitalistic as it gets, to sell an organ for money. This is free trade. In a communism this would not be allowed, since the state controls everything. I'm not a communist, neather am I for selling your body parts. But as someone else said, if they make it illigal it will open up a bunch of butcher shops. People than will for sure get hurt. Now you said that the government should help, this is only possible if they have a socialist government, wich leans towards communism according to the U.S. doctrines. Do we have healthcare that covers everyone in our country? Fix whats wrong in your own country first, and then worry about the rest of the world.

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Mike, Giza, Egypt — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:37:34 GMT

People selling their own kidney's is illegal, harmful and against religious beliefs, but why do they do it? To stop their hunger, to live a better life, to stop being humiliated by people that keeps on asking them for money to pay off their bills ect. These people lives with most of their families under 1 small roof due to financial reasons and most of the people living under that roof are people above 60.These people (who sells their kidneys) work very hard, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and might have a second job just to support his/her family and in the end might not get the salary that will help and support him/her and his/her family. So what do they do? Or what will you do if you in their place? Sell your body? Sell your children? Commit suicide? I bet any one will do that, but they said no, they will still go on with life although all of these problems, so they sell their kidneys just for money so they can live a decent life. All countries are forbidding selling body parts and saying that it's wrong. 3rd world countries today care about is trying to be the same as the US by building huge and tall and weird shaped buildings, by building casino's and hotel's and other entertainment thing's and by buying the latest weapons and tanks and jets for war and ect. and I know they do that because I'm an American living in one. I want to ask the 3rd world countries a question, you pay tons of money for all of these things that is just listed, although you are very poor countries, why don't you just use that money or half of it to give to these poor helpless people or make new jobs for them will decent salaries or free food or pay for their education or something if you are so considered about people selling their organs and considered about poor people ect. And if you don't want to do that, then just leave them alone.
If you don't like what's happening, do something about. Tell people about this tell your family about it; make a donation make a documentary, at least pray for them that god helps them instead of just sitting there.
In end I conclude that people can make a change if they consider or care about it. The world is coming to an end now........

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karley, oklahoma — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:51:55 GMT

This is so very sad. Myself, years ago thought that this would happen in the future. Selling body parts is like a horror movie and this past year I watched a DVD about this. I can't remember what country. We are doomed as a species if this continues. The rich survive and the hell with everybody else. Geeeeeezzz what a world we live in.........

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john, newport news, va — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:58:50 GMT

What is it with the stupid idiotic muslim world????...There's not one muslim country that does anything right...they pump oil and that's it...no technology, no exports, no inventions, nothing good for the world,unless you consider suicide bombers an export....Who cares what they do?...Let 'em suffer in their own crap cultures they've made for themselves...Let's get on with the electric cars so we can tell the muslims we no longer need 'em and let 'em rot in their own sh/t....

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gil brown — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:03:59 GMT

This is a very sad situation for the people of Pakistan. I think that there needs to be some regulations regarding the practice of organ transplants and that this practice should not be as widespread. Widespread transplanting only increases the chances of contracting terminal, blood-related diseases. Perhaps the government of Pakistan should seriously consider creating other opportuinities for their people to transcend from their levels utter poverty.

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bob valenski, LA, california — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:07:31 GMT

i think scariest comment i read was one above how the "buyers" according to the articles are the countries with the government, socialist healthcare systems. the article never mentioned americans, just the comments. think about that before voting in the next election.. its bad, but it could get alot worse

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rich, alexandria, va — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:10:33 GMT

It probably happens in the USA as well.

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Manuel Garcia, Los Angeles, CA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:16:23 GMT

The tragedy here is multi-leveled. The implicit sadness of someone selling their body parts to get out of debt and have a better life is so remarkably depressing to me. The fact that he prayed to jesus before-hand is just another element of the ignorance, superstition, and backwardness that drives this kind of practice.

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Zahid Kaleem, M.D Kansas City, MO — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:31:23 GMT

The man and the story is all repeated again! It is the poor and uneducated man who sold what was really in his control, his own body part, for the sake of family honor.
Donating kidney is not unethical or illegal but the manner and circumstances in which this happened is deplorable. The donor deserves not only money but a proper preoperative education and postoperative care.
It is the failure of the government, unprofessionalism of the medical team, and lack of sensitivity of the society for these things to continue unregulated.

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neko_maneki_neko — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:19:47 GMT

Quote "I find it incredible that poverty still exists! This is 2007, and yet there is still poverty--why can't we fix this problem?"

This is the funniest quote I've ever heard. Clearly you don't leave Texas to often and I'm sorry to say but I imagine you have rarely traveled outside of the USA. I would suggest taking a Anthropology class sometime at the local community college if you really want to try to understand why there is poverty in the world. The truth is a about 20% or less of the world population control and enjoy over 80% of its wealth and resources. Over half the world population lives on $1 a day and the rest of them them live on even less. Like it or not, if you live in the Western world your lucky, very lucky.

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JJ, Houston, Texas — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:32:10 GMT

I am 27 years old and I live in the U.S.A. I lost a kidney in an accident and nearly lost my second one as well. I had tons of people that new me or were related to me offer a kidney to save my life...however some are not as fortunate, what really makes this so horrid is that there is not more structure or government oversight, so these people do not get robbed and not properly cared for on the follow ups. This should not be made illegal in any country just strictly overseen so that people are not taken advantage of. If it were made illegal here a bigger vacuum for criminals just stealing peoples organs will come. I live a perfectly normal life minus cokes, and if cared for properly others could as well, whether they donate or lose one in an accident......lives could be saved on both ends.

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no insurance guy, illinois,US — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:32:34 GMT

I'm sorry for how this is happening. I'm not an organ donor and will not be unless there is a public health care system in our country. The reason is simple. None of my family member can benefit so why should I donate? Organ transplant is benefiting mostly wealthy people,people with access to health care(preventive), annual checks...By the time my folks and I will be diagnosed for organ transplant, it will probably be on the autopsy bench. I'll be glad to be a donor knowing that I can also benefit if needed. Peace to all

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Steve — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:00:26 GMT

I have been concidering selling a kidney, but it would take more than the $500-$3000 to get me to seriously concider it. I was shocked. I felt like there would be more money in it than that. Does any other countries pay more?

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Jean Dupais, New York, New York — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:11:16 GMT

So what is the correlation here between organ trafficking and abductions?

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smokie bear, chantilly ,va — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:16:30 GMT

I'm a 24 year old male non smoker non drinker no drug or medications in my system.I need new rims for my car and am willing to sell my kidney on an organ ebay of some kind.HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO LIVE? make me an offer

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Lisa — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:20:58 GMT

This is horrable! Its like the medical ethics story about the viola and the kidney.

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Grandy H. Long Beach, CA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:22:52 GMT

The very fact that some in certain foreign countries are willing to grab someone off the street and cut out his or her kidney (or other organ)for profit should tell us that the culprits are greedy barbarians, and should be jailed, at the minor end of the punishment scale. The victims have been robbed of a part of their lives that is not for someone else to take; rather it is only to be given by choice. Surely some buy and some sell these organs out of desperation; again, it should be an individual choice. Further, the organ seller only receives a thousandth, if that, of what he or she should receive for selling a life-sustaining organ; what's a few million to an oil-rich Arab prince? The biggest wrong in all of this is that the rich can afford to buy an organ, and the poor have to rely on donated organs, of which there are far too few. Finally, I thank God everyday that I live in this country. Granted, it is not perfect, and there are no easy solutions to many of the problems we have here in the U.S. But, we have the right to vote and to speak our minds!

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Elias Salcedo Indio Ca — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:40:57 GMT

In a country where people cannot go bankrupt, Tarik did the hororable thing and paid his fathers dues. This is impressive and sad at the same time. hard to immagine

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Tina Rene' — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:52:45 GMT

you all should read a book about this that i just read. it's called "evil harvest" by robert sweeten m.d. there's a web-site about it too. go to www.evilharvest.com. it's an awful tragedy.

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Regina Cortes, Norwalk, CA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:55:14 GMT

In CA a woman has the leagal right to choose if she would like to be an egg "donor" and compensated up to 8k for her donation. If there is a legal market for that, why can't we have one for something that is life saving. If the U.S. made it legal, it could be better regulated with higher safety and care standards for all. BTW, I was impressed reading the comments...you all have posted very thought provoking responses.

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Dave, Spokane WA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:57:55 GMT

We can grow organs. Support stem cell research.

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Yoni Nathanson, Hollywood, Florida — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:02:35 GMT

I also think that it should be up to the donor, if they feel that the price is satisfactory its their choice. Please don't draw religion or other prejudices into this this is purely a personal choice for people. PLEASE STOP WRITING IN ALL CAPS!!!!!!!!

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Cynthia Avila — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:10:58 GMT

Look how people from the u.s. sell their blood for money. I'll bet, given the chance they'd sell a kidney to make a buck. On the other hand, if it's taken from you against your will, well that's just criminal.

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john doe, tacoma, washington — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:31:42 GMT

see how terrorists ruin a country from the inside. I'd bet most of the money is going to Osama Bin Laden. Pak'stan is supposedly an ally, but they've got a long way to go with helping their own people by way of legit businesses, tourism and manufacturing.

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Transplant dad, Originally from Oklahoma — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:33:35 GMT

Here's the real tragedy:

Fact. Not opinnion.

There's just not enough donors to go around.

In the USA, since 1995 - over 78,000 people have died awaiting an organ transplant.

(It's on www.unos.org - go to "National Data" and "Waiting List")

That's almost as big a human disaster as the bombing of Hiroshima.

Despite what others might tell you, these people aren't dying due to lack of health insurance. I realize that 3800 Americans have died in Iraq since 2003, but in the same time frame, 10 times that many people have died on the waiting list. Guess which gets more press?

These people are dying because of a lack of donors.

Please. Make the decision to become an organ donor. Most importantly, share that decision with your family.

Defy death. Be an organ donor.

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Joey matos. Mesa A.z — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:36:37 GMT

I'll sell mine for 5 million.

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Open your eyes, Purcellville,Va — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:39:48 GMT

I've been to Pakistan recently, and there is much more going on then the organ selling. In the US when you are poor, there are options..welfare,working two or three jobs,etc.
In those countries, you watch your children starve and there is nothing you can do except for these extremes. It's sad to see that these countries have extremely rich people and extremely poor people. Also I would like to mention to Jack Harris that Pakistan is not an arab country and it's sad for this to happen to anyone muslim or jewish...

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j ram — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:42:00 GMT

he couldve just say no ..its my fathers debt not mine.. im not giving up my kidney for nobody but my children....dont like it come see me well handle it........

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Tee Roseville California — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:42:01 GMT

Explain why any one country should be the police, policy makers, protectors, providers or punishers, for any other country?
The rest of the world sits and watches those countries who do try to step in to other countries affairs, and then vilifies them for stepping in, or for staying neutral, no matter what they do, they are hated, you can't win either way.
After reading so many people from other countries say how they hate America and Americans? My take is, fine...take care of yourselves without us, or our money or our armed forces. Survival of the fittest, if you don't survive, you weren't meant to. See you, maybe.

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Muhammad — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:20:45 GMT

It is very sad that there are people who have to go through this because greedy BAS**** doctors in Pakistan want money. It surprises me that these doctors don't even think there is a hellfire that they will be going to.

What surprises me even more is a government that does nothing to help poor people such as this. And then they call themselves an "ISLAMIC REPUBLIC". Were Prophet Muhammad or his cousin, Imam Ali, alive today, they would have given everything to the poor and no one would go hungry.

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Tracey Bryant Keokuk Iowa — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:21:33 GMT

time to pray there is a reason why we are all where we are. OUR SOULS.

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Rebecca Larson — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:27:40 GMT

This is for Stan Grey of Smithtown NY, I qoute what you said "LAPROSCOPICALLY REMOVING A DONORS KIDNEY IS MINIMALLY INVASIVE, REQUIRES A 2 DAY HOSPITAL STAY, AND 2 WEEKS RECUPERATION BEFORE RESUMING A NORMAL LIFE" I am disgusted by you as you have yourself someone organ in your body and you seem very ungrateful.It is not minimally invasive when you are talking about someone donated their kidney and went through an operation and pain for no reason than somoene elses health.Their life is also affected forever as they have to be careful with medications,alchohol and they do not have another kidney to rely on when they need it if their last kidney faisl because they gave it to you but you dont care because you think it is nothing.It effects everything they can do forever like a kidney patient, yet you did not choose to be a kidney patient but they did because they are better than you but you dont care because you are ungrateful and have no regard for the human who has lost their kidney for you and lost their normal life!

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Chris Malone Seattle, WA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:29:23 GMT

Why not go to China and buy a kidney from the Communist government? They regularly harvest body parts from religious prisoners (the Falun Gong and Christians, among others) who are held as inventory,waiting for an order.

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jonathan renstrom, omaha NE — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:57:49 GMT

I am really suprised by the sheer volume of people who would justify such a practice. The reason that organ selling is illegal is because it could potentially kill the donor. When economic considerations are the driving motivation to donate the possiblity of explotation increases exponentially. one of the main tenets of the hippocratic oath is to first do no harm, no doctor worth the title, should ever participate in something so morally questionable. There is no justification for the destruction of a perfectly healthy person to potentially save an ailing one, unless the choice is made without the donor being under duress. We could use the same free market arguements to justify child prostitution in these countries as well, and isn't this just as bad given that it threatens the life of the donor?
This is blatant exploitation, and only fuels the third world's resentment of us, such resentment would is deserved, in this case.

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jonathan renstrom, omaha NE — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:57:49 GMT

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Georgia Robbins, Columbus, Ohio — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:58:25 GMT

My son 7 years ago gave me one of his kidneys(he is my hero). The transplant was done in one of the top hospitals in America. With specialist, surgeons, staff and the most updated medical equipment,.Regardless, we were not told of any complications that a donor can possible experience. My son ended up having "abdominal adhesions" (growing scar tissue), that caused"intestinal blockage". He had to have emergency surgery. I do hope that doctors in these countries gives each donor all information when donating a kidney, because none of my doctors did. This was a "gift of love". He suffered greatly. (and it broke my heart watching him go through all of this) I know when people are desperate,they will do what ever it takes and that is what is so sad in todays world. Donating a kidney should be act of love regardless,who gives a kidney. Selling human parts is a "all time low" and should not be allow anywhere in the world. My prays goes out to anyone who is that desperate.

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Molly, Seattle, WA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:23:42 GMT

In this country it's illegal for any individual to sell any human tissue. However, it IS ok to financially compensate a donor for their time and trouble. When I was a struggling waitress I was paid $3,000 to undergo fertility treatment and donate some eggs to an infertile couple - the same going rate as a kidney in Pakistan. At first I thought of it as "selling" my eggs, but after I thought about what it must have to the couple involved, I realized that you couldn't put a true price on something like a human egg (or a pint of blood, or a kidney). I started seeing the situtaion as a donation, and decided that I was compensated very fairly for my sacrfice of time and the risk to my health in undergoing a minor but serious operation when the eggs were extracted. That was what the lawmakers intended when they "priced" egg donation in my state. Anyway I wasn't even that badly off financially, I just got into it to get ahead, and I didn't lose anything that I needed. But in more dire financial straits I could totally understand the man's decision to give a kidney to support his family. He built a roof over his family's head with that money!
That said, if even half of Americans became voluntary organ donors, we could completely eliminate the demand for black market human tissue. We don't need to count on some government body to "regulate" this, which would never be 100% successful anyway - we could fix it ourselves through our own generosity and compassion.
My Washington drivers license has a little red heart in the corner of it, which if they find me dead in a car accident means I'm an organ donor. But when I see that heart on there, it reminds me of my commitment to love other human beings.

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Skeptic, New Orleans, LA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:30:46 GMT

i) As sad or bothersome it may sound, it is a case of supply and demand. When there is a demand for a kidney (at $5000 or so ~= 100* the annual income of a poor guy in Pakistan) and when there is a supply (the kidney of this poor guy), transaction WILL HAPPEN. Its similar to the demand (for sex) + supply of a woman (willing to have sex)= a brothel.

ii) You may pray to Jesus as much as you want and pretend that the problem will go away, but remember US is not in a much better position. Let the housing problem worsen a bit more in the US and you may have people in the US offering their kidneys too!

iii) And to the person from Puerto Rico, please search your backyard...you will likely find people ready to donate kidneys. Economically, you guys (on an average) are not much better off than the average Pakistanis.

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Carrie Ann, Indiana Pa — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:36:09 GMT

There are so many thoughts that run thru my mind... from the article itself and the comments that follow. I hope there never comes the day that I am so desperate for money that I would even consider "selling" an organ. When it comes to ones family ... many people are willing to do what it takes to make the best of the worst situation. My own mother lived an additional 3 years from a donated transplanted heart. With that extra time she was able to know a new born grandchild, see my brother turn his life around, and live just a few more precious days to grace the rest of us with love. Ultimately her kidneys failed and we as a family were willing to pull together ... be tested and give her more life, more time. Unfortunately for us that didnt occur. Time ran out. Until we have walked in someone elses shoes for two moons... who are we to judge? Who is really at fault? Yes someone is making a money and the government isnt regulating. I highly doubt that the ones needing the transplant and the ones needing the monetary compensation to continue to survive are. Sell an organ or starve the family. Which choice are you willing to live with. I know which one I am. Hopefully you or I never need to make that choice.

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Kevin B. Sweetwater, TN — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:42:00 GMT

Sign me up Where do I get in lIne to sell my Kidney? What other organs do they need? I may be able to spare a few here and there.

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:57:47 GMT

Penelope...Somehow I think that this man will not be praying to Jesus (Pakistan is a muslim nation) ;)

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JP, Calif — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:58:15 GMT

People have the right to do what they want with their bodies (ie, abortions, plastic surgery, etc). If one of your love ones needed a transplant believe me you would go to all lengths to find a donor. It is a shame though, that in some countries it is done for economical reasons. Don't judge until you or a love one is put in that life or death situation.

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acaringperson in Klamath Falls, Oregon — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:24:58 GMT

It isa very sad world indeed when poor people have to sell body parts . The government obviously does not care at all about their poor people or they would be doing something to help them. So this exploitation will continue. However, exploiting poor people happens everywhere ,especially in poor countries with corrupted - uncaring governments where people are considered a commodity .

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Dave, Cranbrook, BC — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:33:21 GMT

All this, while God sits in his heaven in stony silence.

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Betty, Las Vegas — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:47:37 GMT

Bush hates kidneys

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bill , petersburg ,VA — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:02:32 GMT

I wonder if I could get $3000 for my kidney

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nida hassan,islamabad,pakistan — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:03:24 GMT

after reading this,all i can say is o my God!!!!!this is so unbelivable.....its cruel as well as unfortunate....how desperate these people must be to sell there own organs..and that too for such little money...goverment of pakistan must pay serious attention to it....

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johndoe, seattle, wa — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:41:41 GMT

are you guys kidding me? lets make it legal to sell organs? yes, everyone deserves proper medical care, but instead of making organ donation legal, how about we help these people without taking their organs? voluntary organ donation should be made "VOLUNTARILY", not for money!! we need to help these people to live, without their giving up, and getting paid for, their organs. this is disgusting! we, as americans, should not allow this to be happening!

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Rezaul Karim, Dhaka, Bangladesh — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:43:57 GMT

First of all I am shocked and depress after going through this article. I guess my message may not work this time as all we are talking about something about a third-world country's people.

What should be the solution ? This should come from top to bottom. I mean head of the state -> Professionals -> Policy -> People -> Moral & Education. On the other side we should remind once more, all these was created by the developed world long ago. So everybody of us can not deny at least some responsibility. Here I ask all of you to create a strong protest against them who are taking this as a money making business. Of course people may need kidney like eyes and other organs and there should be a central bank where people can donate by the control of that central government and a particular database should be maintained about the history of the donor. At the same time we need to look for the buyers of these organs. They should also be pointed out for this crime.

At last I pray to all might Allah for taking care of those poor people around the globe, that’s all I can do at this moment.

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john smith — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:46:03 GMT

Rich white busnessmen I hope they test the organs for hep A,B,C,D,E an HIV 1+2 I hope all the rich die for exploting the poor people of Color may they die greedy GHULES!!and the guy who wrote he got a kidney and wouldnt be alive today without it bet it came from a man of color and what about him! die may you nights be haunted by they blood in you veins!

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Pat — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:55:57 GMT

If you want to help the poor, consider making a micro-loan of $25 thru kiva.org. Kiva has been endorsed by President Clinton and was featured on Oprah this week. Pakistan is one of the countries that you can make loans. The loans are used to start or enhance business to provide a better living without selling a kidney.

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George, DSan Jose, Ca — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:45:06 GMT

Yeah, pray to Jesus and it will make it all right !
I agree with Josha, this world is such a sick place !
And we Americans can share a lot of that blame !
Geez, it's more fun to watch football on our 62" lcd screens, continue our obese habits, continue paying lobbists, building nukes, and financing a war that is adding to these problems. Give me a break you STUPID people ! Look at yourselves in the mirror and then PUKE !

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Tom Garross, Woodinville, Wash — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:58:33 GMT

Did you know that the maximum LIFETIME dose of several over the counter pain medications is in the hundreds. If you did away with them you would cut the number of kidney failure cases dramatically.
My father-in-law had only had tasted "demon rum" two or three times and smoking, not a chance. His kidney's failed because of a genetic condition. I used to drive people to the kidney center for treatment, most (90%) are just plain folks just like you. They don't deserve this, so get off your high horse's and be an organ donor. GIVE THE GIFT OF LIFE!!!!
When you are dead are you so selfish that you would let someones mom or dad die so your organs can rot in a grave???
If you can't bear to do it, just tell your other half and quit being a baby. You don't have to wear it on your forhead. GIVE THE GIFT OF LIFE. You'll sleep better and you will be remembered as a hero. The ones you save will bless you for your gift..

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larry — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:05:50 GMT

A little off subject but here goes.
While organ selling is a problem in the poor countries, We should also look at adoption. Adoption from MANY third world countries costs ~ 15,000 to 25,000 dollars. If the powers to be in these countries think a kidney is worth 3000 a newborn is a bargain at $20,000.

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Larry Eppley, Newark,Ohio — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:21:00 GMT

Your body is yours to do as you wish. If the price is right I'd sell any part of mine except my eyes.

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DSJ cp la. — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:47:15 GMT

Anybody that thinks it's "ok" to "sell" an organ for money is sick!!!!
if a person wants to "give" an organ to help someone to have a better quality of life, o.k..
but to sell a kidney to pay off debt... come on....
GOD is watching!!!!!

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Jerry, Springfield, MO — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:14:43 GMT

Try waiting on a transplant list, you just might have a different view point. So many people have "Tears running down there cheeks" yet they probably haven't bothered to sign there organ donor cards. Hypocrites.