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TZAZ, Gilbert,AZ — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:41:59 GMT

If these people really think that man is the cause and the cure for the warming trend, I have a recipe for turning lead into gold that they might be interested in. I'll let it go cheap.

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Buddy Rudolph Philadelphia Pa. — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:02:10 GMT

Its a shame,we humans wait until the last moment to react to problems. I have been aware of global problens(warming)and pollution for years. Jimmy Carter tried to make us aware just to find out again MONEY is the root of ALL evil. The earth can not take complete contol of it's self if we don't help her along. The Great Lakes are a perfect example of us working together.This is a world wide problem and the sooner WE ALL work together our children and their children might be able to enjoy LIFE on our planet before it is to late for us humans and then the world will then be able to fix itself... with out us. Thank you I enjoyed reading your work. Buddy Rudolph

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keith aurora colo — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:23:27 GMT

its happening all around us ......

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Wernerlll — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:49:21 GMT

Too little, too late!
Impossible to project a reversal with
the amount of pollution in process of
being doubled from the last century!

As Mr. Bush would say: "Adapt, buy more
air conditioners!" Really.

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Lisa McNeil,Alpharetta,Georgia — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:10:11 GMT

Dear Ian, I think what the Bush Heritage conservation group is doing will really help save those endangered animals. The meetings about this subject are important, but the actual work of saving these animals will eventually be beneficial to keeping them alive. Working with the landowners to set aside some of their land for the corridor is a good idea. Basically like you stated, regardless of the outcome of the meeting the project should succeed. Keep the animals alive! Peace to all!

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Edie, Pittsburgh, PA — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:31:27 GMT

It's a hopeless cause, Ya'll. The money hungry will get their way for the capitalist and the Chinese so-called communists.

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cdugga — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:42:00 GMT

Talking, exchanging ideas and developing plans is the first step in working towards solving this problem. It is unfortunate that it may be happening too late to see any results until way after we are all gone, but maybe our children's children can reap some benefit, even if it just to learn about the pitfalls of delusion and denial.

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Dave St. Louis MO — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:55:30 GMT

This planet will be much better off once we humans have exterminated ourselves.

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Deborah, Taos, NM — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:15:39 GMT

respondents in one recent AU poll named climate change as the single most important external threat facing the country.

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Terry D Bisson, Spokane WA — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:18:08 GMT

The ONLY conceivable long-term solution to global warming is population control and not a single government is willing to take on the issue. As a consequence, earth's biospheres are doomed to radical changes. The good news is population control will come whether we want it or not.

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Mox M. Anywhere, Anyhow, — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:42:20 GMT

W,Politics, Big Money, Organized Labor, Base Line Business,Sciencs, Scientists, Environmentalist, Economic fall out, Wars, Draught and Famine..
Folks, it was all written long before any few of us got here.

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mark greenfield — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:52:57 GMT

Do these people know that there is globalwarming happening on other planets in the solar system?

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mark greenfield — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:56:26 GMT

That's all!

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Barry, Melbourne, VIC — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:28:20 GMT

I have lived in Australia for quite a while and have never heard of this Scottsdale project. Most likely it is Mr. Mackey's wish project that he is trying to get some publicity for.

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Stephen, St. Louis,MO — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:45:34 GMT

We need to educate everyone about this problem and how to stop from destroying the world. Also need to pick the right people to solve problems all around the world. Why is that not happening now? People from each country need to vote for the right person to run their country who will put more effort to protecting earth than destroying it. Please get your President to make this a top priority. If they dont then vote for one that will or get yourself or someone that will make it happen.

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David — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:12:39 GMT

TZAZ, its too bad that the desert sun has baked your mind to the point that you fail to see the writing on the walls. Global warming is no longer an obscure belief held by crackpots. Scientist, politicians, and people with different religions, cultures, and values all over the world are noticing an extreme change in the environment. Unfortunately, entire species of plants and animals have become extinct due to man, why is the thought of global warming due to humans such a stretch? Keep your "golden" thoughts.

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joshua louisville ky — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:02:54 GMT

when you take all mother nature has to offer,, and replace it with nothing,then she will dry up and blow away........................

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Stuart, Athens, On, Canada — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:10:59 GMT

Someone is always ready to tell us that it's happening on other planets. Personally I don't give a tinker's damn what is happening on other planets. In fact the sun seems to be suffering from a very bad case of global warming. I don't live on the sun. If we don't smarten up quick we may be trying to do just that. As Dave said; "This planet will be much better off once we humans have exterminated ourselves"

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Dave W. — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:17:45 GMT

We unfortunately have created a situation where the increased and increasing CO2 load in the atmosphere (caused by human appetite for burning fossil fuels) and subsequent global warming, is only moderated away from runaway planet-wide temperature increases by the particulate pollution we are also putting in the air. Were it not for the the solar-dimming effect and subsequent cooling of the atmosphere caused by particulate pollution (smog), global warming would be a planet-wide emergency of the highest order right now. We have to decrease, not maintain at current levels, both the CO2 and and particulate pollution we are putting in the atmosphere starting now or else it will be too late for humanity keep our world habitable for our children's children. Ironically, decreasing one without the other would be a recipe for accelerated disaster. Also unfortunately, humanity's propensity for unbridled development and consumption gives little hope for gaining the foresight and wisdom to take action now.

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Gary in Wisconsin — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:33:22 GMT

Greed trumps concern for the environment. We are doomed and by the time we get governments to give a care, it will be too late. I'm 70, so I will live out my days in relative peace. The newly born, won't be so fortunate.

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Leung, Hong Kong — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:50:44 GMT

I am a Canadian living in Hong Kong. It is very hot and humid here in the summer. But I resist the temptation to buy and use any air conditioner, although I can afford one. If everybody does the same, this place will not be a concrete jungle covered by haze all the time.

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Kat, Brisbane Australia — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:06:39 GMT

The biggest threat to Australia right now is that we are running out of water!!! Saving land as nature corridors etc is all very well but we can't do anything without water. John Howard doesn't give a damn about conservation or climate change, he's only saying that so he can try and pull something out of the hat and win the next election. He's due to do that, constitutionally he has to soon, but what is he doing??? Waiting for his numbers to go up so he can see his government returned that has screwed the Australian people for the last 11yrs while he sits back globe trotting and comfortable in Kirribilli.

How about Americans find out what your every day Australian on the street really thinks on issues. What you don't realise is that you're being given a smokescreen so you can't see what's really going on in this country.

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kent st paul mn — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:24:10 GMT

Dave St. Louis MO, Boy are you a granola liberal fanatic. Why are you wanting to exterminate the human race? Why do you buy into the bullshit that humans are to blame? Do some research, the planet earth has warmed and cooled countless times in it's history. They were growing crops in greenland 2000 years ago. And now it's covered with ice. Ya I can see the earth is warming. Why do you suspect that it is because of humans? These scientist (capitalist) have have very much to gain if they can purswade common folks and governments that humans are to blame. There are just as many scientist and climoligist that argue a different point. You just don't hear about it. News publishers don't make money that way. They need a crisis to sell news. Everything works in cycles, including the earth. Do you think that we should all commit suicide! I tell you what, you do it first and then I will (not). Go hug a tree.

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MildBill, Monroe, Louisiana, USA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:37:32 GMT

At least most of you are not screaming to "Save the Planet". That's stupid. Mother Earth was here long before we were, and will be here long after 'Man' is a faded memory. What we need to be worried about is "Save the People", and, sadly, nobody who matters really cares, because the problems don't effect them here and now. Just as sadly, nobody who really cares matters enough to get anything done.
It's the new golden rule in action... He who has the gold makes the rules...

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Nic, Gold Coast, Australia — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:48:07 GMT

Barry, Melbourne - Bush Heritage Australia are legit, try their website. Particularly look at their Board of Directors and the organisations that they work with jointly on projects. I hadn't heard of them prior to reading this article either. I think we'll be hearing more about them in the future when their achievements expand - they seem very results focused.

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Nick Jury, Clayton, CA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:51:01 GMT

TZAZ;
You may want to start buying up as much of that lead as you can possibly get your hands on because you are apparently the biggest fool of all. Considering everything that's happened within the last 20 years, things that have never happened before, especially the fact that glaciers and ice masses that have been in tact for many thousands of years are all of a sudden melting at an unbelievable pace, indicates this is not just a cyclical event. Put a little thought into what you're saying!!

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dennis emerine New Riegel,ohio — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:16:33 GMT

I really hope people think that global warming is a farce because the down side to it is death. There is no end of the world coming. A rather awesome display of mother nature will be brought on due to the interior of planet earth is warming up too!!! We are over due for a pole shift!!! How about the volcano on the canary islands. Palma is what i am referring too!!! This is happening all over the planet. Or i should say this live within 50 miles of the coast line on the east coast. This would help reduce payments on social security. I meant to the usa.

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John Bamforth, Leeds, UK — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:21:00 GMT

Trouble is folks, we have a serious problem with all the ongoing debate about whether Climate Change is anthropogenic or not. 12,000 years ago, there was ice 1 mile deep where New York now sits. I guess it's been warming at least since then, right? And what about all the other warming and cooling periods (of which there has been at least 5) over the last 500m years? Were they caused by humans? I think not. Humans are merely making matters worse, by the fact that there are twice as many humans on this planet than the planet can cope with. In 20 years time there will be another 3 billion people on this planet. It doesn't take rocket science to figure what's happening here folks! Religion and politics don't even come into it. The planet will do what it has to do. I don't need to remind anyone what Nature can do when she's in a fury.

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Tony Pinnell, Warsaw, Poland — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:27:37 GMT

Wealth is a tool to create sustainable community life and not the end goal. Unconscious institutions or governments cannot hear this message. So you and I need to mobilise people all around the world, to make enough noise and peacefully change in the way commerce interacts with the community. At that point the institutions will be able to hear us. This is our job and cannot be delegated. Let's start today.

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Connee Robertson, Heber Springs, Arkansas — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:28:18 GMT

When I was in 6th grade scientists talked about global warming...many years later when studying for my biology degree my teachers talked about these corridors for wildlife.I am so happy to note that someone is trying to do this!We can make a difference in the world if we try...and we must try or we really are doomed. Do this for your grandchildren...each one of you do something to help the world. I started a wildlife hospital this year...what will you do?

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JC, Milwaukee WI — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:54:52 GMT

Thanks TZ & Mark for bringing sanity to this subject. I realize that human Greenhouse Gas Emmissions caused the last major global warming phase 60,000 years ago and the warmest year globally on record is 2005 no 1998 no 1934 OPPS!!! Also the greenhouse gasses produced in 1862 by global Industrialization started the melting of the glacier in Glacier National Park NOT !!!!!!

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John — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:09:15 GMT

This planet is perishable. It's a fact of life. But guess what- you will perish long before the planet will. Another thing- your soul is not perishable. It will live forever- in Heaven or in Hell. Give your life to Jesus, and let him save your soul first. Then you can worry about other things.

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Dr Bob Moore, Adelaide, SA, Australia — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:44:13 GMT

Thanks for this expert piece of Journalism about the goings on in my country this week. I disdain to regularly watch network news, given presentation can favour vested intests. This article has therefore given me information I did not have. This article from NBC is balanced, positive and unbiased, and correctly notes the seachange that has happened here. For instance,, in May 2007 we had "Coolaid" airing on channel ten, our most American-content network.
www.coolaid.com
Thankyou media-moguls-that-dance. Thankyou for your heart. And thankyou to a myspace friend for showing me this NBC article.

-Dr Bob Moore, (Agriculture, Sydney)
www.myspace.com/globalwarmingcure
www.myspace.com/politiciansthatdance

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Mr. Spock — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:24:11 GMT

John, you obviously don't have any children or regard for future generations. A truely ignorant Christian Taliban member if there was one. Step down from your pedistal of fear and hate and darkness of ignorance and into the light of science and understanding. Trust logic first, vs. faith that the razor blade won't draw blood and realize that you make a difference in the world. For better or for worse.

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Colin, Pittsburgh, PA — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:27:13 GMT

While I can say that a great deal of hot air has been released just in the writing of the posts on this blog, remember that climate is still a poorly understood system. We know a great many of it's parts, but still do not have a clear understanding of exactly how it works. However, that said, there is some grounds to be concerned about global warming. The thermohaline currents in the ocean, which warm the east coat of the US and western Europe can and will be disrupted by it. This will have the effect of lowering temperatures in these areas, causing them to take on weather models similar to other areas along the same lat., such as Siberia.

It is unfortunate, but... the bulk of the facts seem to support the idea that man's actions have taken a naturally occuring upswing in the cycle and made it worse for us. Politcal ideology aside, this is a serious issue and we ned to start comming up with practical ways to deal with the issue. If our politicians are too corrupt to do something, we should be rid of them. Money will be of little use to us in the future, since extinct species don't need it.

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tim curtis, fairfield, ct — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:28:02 GMT

The debate about what to do with global warming just ties in further with myriad other environmental issues. For all naysyers why doesn't the NRDC sponsor a month for them residing in China's most polluted city with daily swims in the local waters and with water consumption restricted to what is locally available. After they become so entirely sick mentally and physically perhaps environmental issues will rise to the apex where they always have and always will belong. Humans cannot exist without a healthy environment. To ameliorate the deleterious effects of detrimental climate change on the "positive" psyche, some conjur up the excuse of previous climate changes. Yet from my knowledge these changes have wrought tremendous dislocation and hardship on any mammals alive. Again, to experience the effects of the accretion of warming gases, let us send them to live with the polar bears on the melting pack ice and have them eat "meals ready to eat" dropped by the redployed air force (after we finish our negative return of fighting a war for peace in the oil patch).

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Andre Carrington, Machias, Maine — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:17:29 GMT

Dear Global Warming Skeptics,

It really does not matter if the earth's temperature is being increased by human activities or not. That is a misleading argument to engage in. The question should be, we know higher global temperatures will hurt humankind - how can we slow or reverse this process before irreparable harm is done to our civilization and environment.

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Truth Man — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:26:16 GMT

Please, all whiners: if you really believe in "CLIMATE CHANGE" being caused by America, then let me see you turn off ALL electricity in your home for 12 hours a day. Then the coal fired generators won't have to be worked so hard. Get rid of your SUVs, and walk. Save gas and CO2 emissions.Oh, too bad about the lousy so-called public transportation. Mandate ALL ( I mean all) government vehicles be hybrids...including Hillary and Bill Clinton's gas-guzzling limo!!!! And end ALL foreign aid for 20 years and direct the money to reestablish a green economy without any of us having to go without!!! It is our money you know. Let the UN suck on that for awhile!!!

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Chuck Hughes — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:35:17 GMT

TZAZ;
It's attitudes like yours that are the problem. Scientists have been studying ice core samples going back 600,000 years and in all that time, there has never been a warming trend as sudden as the one we have today. The speed at which the earth is warming will not allow animals and humans to adapt quickly enough.

I believe that Global Warming will make all the other problems we have in the world seem trivial by comparison. 75% of the earths fresh water is locked up in ice. When that ice is gone, you will have no more water to drink. All ice will disappear by 2050 at the rate we are warming now, according to scientists.

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Stick Man — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:37:14 GMT

Well, whether or not one thinks global warming is caused by man or natural cycles, what I wonder is this: just what IS the effect on the Earth of billions and billions of tons of deadly poisons being pumped into the atmosphere? It's there, and we can see it every day in the cloud of poison that hangs over each and every big city in the world. Surely there is going to be some sort of negative effect? How can there not be? Not to mention all the nasty stuff being put into the rivers, lakes, and oceans. Even if there is a natural warming cycle of some sort, pouring industrial wastes into our environment doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do...does it?

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Chuck Hughes — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:40:50 GMT

Give your life to Jesus, and let him save your soul first. Then you can worry about other things. John

Guess what John? God is NOT going to rapture you out of this mess. You can pray till the cows come home and you'll still have the same problem.

The only life you have is the one you're living now so you better take action. If you have children, do it for them. The bible was written by people who thought the earth was flat. That won't help you today.

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Gerald Groulx, Buffalo, NY — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:28:08 GMT

We will NEVER agree on the extent to which mankind is the big villain in this global warming debate, and how much is due to natural cycles. However, we seem to be arriving at a consensus that the phenomenon is real, and is mostly an undesirable thing for life on earth. Hey, that's a start!

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Don McMow, Morinville, Alberta, Canada — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:32:24 GMT

You can't tell me that taking the greate amount fossil fuel - CO2 that has been sequestered from the environment for millions of years - in the span of a 100 years won't have a disasterous effect on our climate. These fuels are being taken at rates that are over and above what the Earth is naturally producing. The Earth's environment is a closed system - we can't go and ask for a complete atmosphere change just because we have poluted it. Just because the atmosphere is vast does not mean that at some point in time (NOW) we will not be able to have a disasterous affect upon it. At one point in time we said that the oceans fish stocks were so vast that we couldn't ever have an affect upon them - we now have numerous colapsed fisheries. At one time we thoughtlessly dumped millions of tonnes of garbage into the ocaens (still happening) - now we are seeing the problems associated with that enterprise.

We are the only inhabitants of this planet that are able to completly change our environment to suit our needs (our homes, cars, shopping malls, work places). Do you think that we won't have an effect on the world at large - BOY ARE YOU DREAMING. We MUST change our way of looking at nature - failure to do so will be to our detriment.

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Mike Beaulac, Owosso, MI — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:30:02 GMT

Sad!

Regardless of whether climate change is a cyclical, natural occurrence or accelerated by human activity, the proposed Scottsdale project is a stopgap effort at best. Providing a barrier-free corridor for animals migrating to “cooler” habitats as the planet warms assumes these habitats can support them. Even with a 1,500 mile pathway of “ideal” habitat, eventually we’ll see critters piling up on a Tasman Sea beach.

A valiant effort and great way to create an extended preserve. Unfortunately, it doesn't address the sustainability problem caused by logarithmic population growth, and increasing resource utilization to feed its insatiable appetite.

We need to change our core values to fit a reality we just don’t want to admit to.

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WDRussell, East Liverpool, Ohio — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:36:41 GMT

Oh, I can agree with Mr Spock(the poster).
Does anyone notice that those who tell you the earth was warmer a million years ago, also tell you that the earth is only 8,000 years old.

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Alexandra, Tampa, Florida — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:21:46 GMT

I think it needs to be clear that there are indeed cycles of warm and cool periods on earth. We are no fools, everybody knows that, that's not the global warming problem. The global warming problem is simply that the earth is warming much too fast due to anthropogenic activity, and it's having an adverse effect on earth's organisms who just can't adapt that fast. Yes, there were crops on Greenland thousands of years ago. And i'm sure it took very, very long before Greenland became covered in ice, not 100 years.

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Furmanek, St. Louis, MO — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:16:30 GMT

50 million years ago, when the dinosaurs lived, there were no ice caps. In fact, for most of the history of the planet, there were no ice caps and the situation today (where we actually have 2 of them) may be unique. Today we have 2 ice-caps b/c the position of the continents on the face of the globe has prevented all of the ocean currents from reaching the poles. (Check out a globe.)

Even if we happen to reach a consensus that the earth is warming via C02 emissions, this doesn't necessarily indicate that it will be bad for humans. If 75% of the fresh water is tied up as ice in the caps, the melting of the ice will introduce more water into the water-cycle and could increase the amount of arable and/or forested land on the planet. It is during much colder periods, such as the last ice-age, when more fresh water is tied up in glacial ice, that desertification is prevalent. Of course, one obvious observation is that enough global warming would cause coastal flooding.

The fact of the matter is that the contestants in the current debate on global warming all have political agendas. And politicians like to simplify things. The public has none, or little real unbiased information to consume (books may be your only hope here). And the truth is that climate is an extremely complex system.

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HAROLD ARBOUR DAPHNE AL — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:30:06 GMT

GLOBAL WARMING? MAYBE YES! MAYBE NO! - CLIMATE CHANGE IS CYCLICAL. IT IS NATURAL. MAN COULD NOT CAUSE A CHANGE IF HE WANTED TO. THE EARTH IS IMMENCE, THE EARTH HAS A BUILT-IN SELF REGULATOR TO CONTROL THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE. THE NORTH AND SOUTH POLES ARE HUGE NEGATIVE BTU RESEVOIRS. NOT MANY SCIENTIST MENTION THE "albedo" OF THE EARTH. (REFLECTIVITY) AS THE EARTH IS HEATED BY SOLAR RADIATION, CURRENTS IN THE ATMOSPHERE RISE AND FORM CLOUDS, CLOUDS ARE WHITE AND REFLECT MORE SOLAR RADIATION BACK INTO SPACE COOLING THE EARTH. WITH THE ATMOSPHERE,RAIN,OCEAN AND ATMOSPHERIC CURRENTS, CLOUD FORMATION AND VARIOUS PHYSICAL INTERACTIONS, THE EARTH MAINTAINS AN AVERAGE TEMPERATURE. THIS IS SCIENTIFIC FACT, NOT A BUNCH OF B.S. FROM THE IDIOTS ON THE LEFT WHO WANTS TO GAIN CONTROL OVER THE WORKINGS OF THE PLANET BY CLAIMING THAT MAN IS CAUSING GLOBAL WARMING. REGARDS, HAROLD ARBOUR

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debi — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:48:36 GMT

I seen the Inconvienent Truth doday ...........omg ............better wake up !!

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jerry hansen, Bangor, Maine — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:53:30 GMT

How can there be global warming ? The great Rush Limbaugh with his high school course in general science has proclaimed it is all a hoax put out by pin head scientists.

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Heather, Orlando, Florida — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:27:14 GMT

The inconvenient truth is that so many people are ignorant to how humans may don't realize that even if we aren't causing global warming (which I think we are), we are without a doubt, affecting our environment at a destructive rate that will eventually leave us resourceless and utterly polluted. It's not the earth that needs to adapt, it's us. We don't own the earth. Who gave it to us? We are here by either chance or creationism and to crap on what was put into our responsible hands does not speak highly of our species.
Give a hoot, don't pollute. Do your part or get the hell of this planet.

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Australian living in Minnesota USA — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:04:13 GMT

At least stop the coal mining when windmill and solar power are readily available and proven. Minnesota just passed a bill to build another coal mine (that causes asthma to kids within 100 miles amoung other things) when they have plenty of land for windmills, Palm Springs is the proven ground they work. (Minnesota has backward, Republican, (the Democrats are no better as they are in the pockets of Indian casinos in the state and block all fair legislation for non-indian casinos and the state makes 0 $ from these casino's; a deal done years ago by a misguided govenor), stick-their-head-in-the-sand politicians that live in denial and in the short term - to fill their pockets.

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joe knows princeton NJ — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 00:22:39 GMT

global warming, miniature ice age, mans fault, earths cycle. which really does hold true??? they say science is a field of trial and error and it is through trial and error the human race evolves. how some preach "conserve", and those are usually the ones driving cars with less than 9mpg's. its our 8 cylinder extension of mankind that we have an insatiable appetite with. an appetite and attitude of "i'll be first at the next red light". its the 6000 sq.ft. home we have to cool/heat just because the bank book says so. the moral of the story is america is the BIGGEST waster of resources the HEAVIEST dependant of foreign oils but we cry about 2.50 per gal. the europeans use solar/wind(renewable) like we use gasoline funny that technology is STILL in the development stage here, i guess we aren't the forefront of technology?? why americans DONT welcome change is beyond even americas understanding we would rather just hold our hand out for the QUICK BUCK...than share and prosper as one..

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Greg, San Diego, CA — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 03:34:56 GMT

I can't believe that people fall for climate change alarmism. Yes, the Earth is warming - IT IS NATURAL FOLKS. Man at most provides 5% (probably actually less) of the greenhouse gas inputs to the system. NATURE overwhelms man's contribution! Even if you don't get it, will you be the first to tell Asians they have to stop growing rice, their staple crop? That's right, stop growing rice. Rice farming produces huge amounts of METHANE which is an even more potent GHG than carbon dioxide!

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Craig Henricks of Blissfiels Mi — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:38:36 GMT

The sad truth is that regardless of those who wish to deny it, human kind is making some pretty major impacts around the globe.

1) World population is growing at a frightening pace, with ever more demand for energy to help feed these added millions of people. Where is the planing to curtail & then reverse the worlds overpopulation problem?

2) China and India, left out of Kyoto, are increasing production of air pollutants so fast that no reductions made by the "developed nations" can hope to offset them. How can we hope to curtail climate change if these two nations, and other third world countries don't cut emissions as well as the developed nations?

3) The oceans are over fished to the point that major species we've come to depend on to help feed a hungry world are now suffering depletion to the point of collapse. What can replace these food sources?

4) If the US and other nations continue to increase the amount of grain commodities used for fuel instead of food how will those left to starve due to these programs be fed?

5) It's fine and good to extort people to "plant trees, lots of trees", but where is this to be done? Where are the incentives to encourage land owners to set aside lands they own for the growing of trees?

There are so many different issues that those who are pushing for a "greener" world are not addressing. How can they hope to influence the direction of events if they offer no answers to the above questions, as well as many more I'm not listing or even thinking of?

As for myself, I planted 60 white pine and over a hundred different shrubs this year so far. I hope to get about 120-150 oak or other mast producing trees planted yet this fall. I intend to be planting hundreds more in the next several years. I do this not to save the world from climate change, but to create a wildlife area to enjoy in retirement someday. Sure I'm glad it'll also help a bit with other environmental concerns, but that is not my main motivating reason for doing this. And even in the most advanced nations, how many are there who can afford to do this if no money is made available to pay for them to do so? I suspect very, very few. Do the math people! 200 trees per acre is a modest number/density indeed, yet a relatively small area like the one I hope to have will require over 1K of trees. Governments MUST offer incentives if they wish to see the tens of millions of trees they say they wish to see planted come into being. Suggesting people must do this for their children, or the good of the earth, is nothing more than empty political verbiage devoid of real substance.

At minimum such tree planting areas should become property tax free beginning the year they are first planted. Or hows about a "carbon trading system" for the small landowner who's willing to plant land he owns? I've seen mention of "carbon trading" plans for corporations, but where is a plan for the vastly more numerous small land owners?

I write this from the prospective of the USA, perhaps in Australia there are such programs, for the sake of those in Australia I hope so.

Aussies ‘looking down the barrel of climate change’

Todd Daniels Marion, Indiana — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:08:20 GMT

We were warned about "birthpangs" a while back by the greatest figure of all time... Jesus Christ. It is fact that He existed, (and does still) and it is a fact that He warned us about such disasters as this. There is dire times ahead for the human race and I can't help but laugh at all this dickering that I'm reading on this thread! Australia, like all the other nations on this earth will be reeling from all kinds of natural and man-made disasters in times to come. We, as the human race, have made such a mess of this planet... that is the sad part. The old saying that "history teaches us that mankind learns nothing from history" is very apt for this topic of global warming or any other global whatevers. It doesn't matter if it is cyclical or not... it's happening now and it will get worse. I myself long for his return! Then, and only then will things be set to rights. I do not need a pulpit to see that!!! Pray for this planet and all of it's inhabitants to weather the times that are ahead for us all.

Aussies ‘looking down the barrel of climate change’

Heather, Holyoke, MA — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:29:28 GMT

Agree that it's more important to find solutions to living on a warming planet, than to argue about what/who is causing it. No matter how you slice it, pollution is bad for every living thing.

To the person challenging Americans to get rid of their SUVs, etc. I don't own an SUV, I _do_ walk to go shopping whenever possible (a number of useful places are only a mile or so away from our house), and I grow some of our food.

Turn off electricity for 12 hours a day? Well, not yet -- we still use an energy star fridge after all. But everything else is off for at least 12 hours a day. For the climate change doubters, this also saves money, so it's a good idea no matter what.