China tries to go green

TML, B.C., Canada - (Formerly Lewiston, Washington) — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:18:45 GMT

Great to know China is trying to clean up its environmental act. It does seem pretty close to "too little too late" but regardless, it is a step in the right direction and hopefully one that other nations will follow.

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Beth Montgomery, Grants Pass, OR. — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:37:47 GMT

What is the definition of the word "blog"?

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James — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:46:13 GMT

It's a typical problem in many developing countries. But please be more constructive such as makeng ideas or suggestions rather than be so ironic or scornful. Remember, China's problem is also part of our problems.

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Jo Ann Torre, Las Vegas, Nevada — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:04:55 GMT

Beijing is a perfect example of how the rest of the world is going to look like, feel like and smell like if we don't get together globally and solve the pollution problem. The question is...Even if one does not believe global warming is caused by humans, pollution is real,happening now and is caused by humans. So, why would anyone not want to have a quality and healthy life by breathing in clean air?

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Aaron M — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:09:10 GMT

at least they are trying to move in the right direction...not bad on their leadership for taking these measures.

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Mark Tampa Florida — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:16:19 GMT

Planting trees to combat pollution. And to think it took them this long to figure that out. Problem is, they have no land in which to plant them.

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Georges, New York City — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:17:49 GMT

China is reaping what it sows. It will reach a level of development that is impressive while taking its nation and later the world down with it. The United States unfortunately, is exporting this wasteful and unsustainable style of living that will destroy all of us. Both the Soviet Union AND the United States were promoting destructive economic systems.

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Bert, New York, NY — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:23:49 GMT

China is a beautiful country. I hope China goes "green" faster than the US does. Might possibly set an example to the world.

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Hannie Amadeo — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:24:03 GMT

Last week I returned from a 3-week trip to China and Tibet.
Beijing and Xian are so polluted that one can hardly breathe. all 40 persons in our group suffered respiratory problems on the 2nd day in Beijing. We all wondered how the athletes will cope in 2008 and why this highly polluted city was chosen for the games.!

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Ernest E. Beauvais, Shelby, MI — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:41:39 GMT

We traveled 3000 miles throughout China in May 2007 and were pleased to see that the major cities had tree lined boulevards. We feel that there was more green space there than in comparable American cities. However, sheer population pressure impacts their effort to control the use of resources.

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Michael Liebmann — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:47:42 GMT

"Blog" is short for "weblog."

As far as China - I'm going to Hong Kong in August. From what I've been reading, I may have to not only take my asthma medication, but I might have to consider taking those medical face masks. This is not a good thing.

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john Doe, seattle , wash — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:48:43 GMT

I think people in general are so hard headed that they dont understand this; Air is what we breath it keeps you alive. We should find ways to go about our daily business without polluting the AIR.

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Clayton S., Cambridge Minn — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:51:23 GMT

I think it is never to late to try and get things cleaned up. Not to many years ago WE had rivers on fire, no fish in certain rivers and lakes because of pollution and they were cleaned up and now life is good. Eagles on the comeback, clean water is back and air pollution slowly getting better. it will go much faster after Bush (the big buisness war monger) is out. Bush has done more to hurt this fine country than advance it.

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Gary Shapiro — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:51:56 GMT

Let's hope the director of the State Environmental Protection Administration is not put to death for failing to clean up Beijing's air pollution before the Summer Olympics next year. The draconian methods of the government make a powerful example of corrupt officials, but it would be unfair to label the EPA administrator as ineffective, incompetent or corrupt for failing to "clean up" the air in one year upon the State's directive to do so.

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Paulie Wallnuts — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:55:23 GMT

I love China the head of their FDA screws up he gets executed now that is a no bullshit taking nation. I just purchased a broken Emerson alarm clock I am calling the company I want that inspectors head to roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dolon, Bronx, New York — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:59:50 GMT

We all should avoid using as much energy, and water. I know I am trying to.

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ASB — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:06:37 GMT

Be the change you wish to see in the world. - Ghandi
Think about it, all of us can talk the talk but until someone starts walking nothing is going to change. Every person can make a difference.

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GORDON TAYLOR — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:28:35 GMT

THERE ARE A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE IN THE USA, THAT HAVE GOOD IDEAS HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM,IT'S SAD TO SAY THERE ARE NONE IN THE POLITICAL SYSTEM IN WASHINGTON DC. WE KEEP ELECTING PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE BRAIN POWER OF ROCKS.

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Tommy-gun, Michigan — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:30:24 GMT

After China completely runs out of clean water. We'll have to sell it to them at a premium. How sad that China has become soo poluted in such a short amount of time. I wonder how long it will be before they can't use their own water for growing of crops. Maybe it would help if they would stop dumping raw sewage and industrial waste into their rivers.

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Greg M — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:44:54 GMT

Regardless of the government regulations put in place, China and Indian's economies are going to grow many times over in the next several decades. No regulations are going to keep a country's carbon output the same while it's economy becomes five times as large. The carbon output may only increase by four times instead of five.

Instead of burdening everyone with draconian regulations that will merely slightly decrease the rapid rate at which carbon output is increasing, we need to aggressively invest in technological breakthroughs that will eventually end our dependance on Middle Eastern and Russian oil in addition to addressing this issue.

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CJV, Detroit, Mi — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:49:11 GMT

Industrialized nations should push for a "moratorium"
on energy consumption for at least one day a week. Within reason we can measurably reduce the effect of our own consumerism. If we all did this we all may gain from it. It's time to quit talking about it and DOING something about it. Let's say, close down
all non-essential buildings for one day, don't drive anywhere for one day, plan meals ahead of time to have for that day (and spend real time with your family and friends). Give up some TV, cable,or internet for a few hours. We can curb ourselves with energy curfews. Pick any day. But we all need to do it. In fact we can tie it into our own various religious systems on a day of worship, prayer, duty or observance. What a great "holy" day it would be to try and save one another, while at the same time saving the earth. We can come together on this.

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Jo Ann Torre, Las Vegas, Nevada — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:59:07 GMT

"Blog" is short for "weblog."

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Garry Minor — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:10:08 GMT

China is currently the largest producer of kaneh bosm/hemp, the only plant on the planet with the ability to feed, fuel, shelter, medicate, bring pleasure and true spirituality. It is only a matter of time until they figure out all the great assets of this plant. Interesting enough is the fact that the Chinese developed paper from hemp long before the mideast with papyrus. All paper, plastics, pressed board, paints, varnishes, textiles, and most building products can be made with ecologically friendly kaneh/hemp. In 1938 we knew of over 25,000 items. Henry Ford built and fueled a car with it. Neither he nor Diesel intended for their engines to run on petro. One acre of hemp equals four of timber and you harvest it every single year, tree's take a lifetime. Do the math on that. The hemp seed is also the single most nutritious thing you can eat. You and I have cannabinoid receptors in our body! Maybe that's why kaneh has been found to actually promote brain cell growth and is helpful with Alzheimers, MS, autism, epilepsy, depression, chronic pain, obesity, glaucoma, cancer, migraine, arthritis, Parkinsons, Huntingtons, Tourettes, Chrohns disease and more.
Maybe the Chinese will help to open our own eyes. Currently 15 States are preparing to grow industrial hemp in the U.S. The only problem is our own corporate Government that is controlled by the oil, chemical, pharmaceutical, and other industries that have no problem destroying the environment for profit at everyone elses expense.

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swall, portland, or — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:12:12 GMT

Heading in the right direction? From what I read, these measures are only temporary - for the games. Once the games have completed, the current problem will return.

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Jonathan, Clemson, SC — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:15:59 GMT

I'm a huge advocate of widespread nuclear energy supplemented by wind, hydroelectric, and solar power to generate electricity for electric cars - no more burning of coal or gasoline will be necessary.

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DC NEW HAMPSHIRE — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:22:15 GMT

SAID TO THINK THAT HAVING THIS INFORMATION THE OLYMPIC COMMITEE EVEN CHOSE THIS SITE. EXPOSTING YOUNG PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO THIS HEAVY POLLUTION AND POSSIBIBLY RUNNING THE RISK OF NOT BEING ABLE TO PERFORM AT THEIR VERY BEST. HOW SAD. AND SHAME ON THEM..................

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Dean Chin, Dover, NJ — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:23:40 GMT

China is still under centralized communist control, there is little room for its people say no to what government wants to do. We hope that something positive can be done this time.

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George — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:46:15 GMT

The Chinese just need to install a BIG fan to blow the stinky mess out to sea.

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Jane Cantler , Tampa, Fl. — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:46:21 GMT

Someone very important to me just came back from Beijing and they said it is a city that is very clean and no trash on the streets and many green areas,parks. Everyone works and no homeless. We need to save our green areas and stop all the builing on the beaches and wetlands. Keep out street and waterways litter free.

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Michael, Spokane, Washington — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:48:35 GMT

So...

When do we start walking the walk?
It's not enough. We need to expand.
This world is too small for us.
Technology will only lessen the problem, not solve it.
We need something far more...outside the box.
Why haven't we attempted to Terra form as much as we should? Everyone must admit that should our plant life and ecosystem become tolerant to our philandering then we would have a much better chance to amend the already monumental damage we've afflicted. Things are being done all over the world...but without the sponsorship of our respective governments there is no real hope of success. The world is dying and we are responsible. All humanity is responsible for this. Pity.

My faith in humanity has left me wanting a solution outside the realms of Man.
I wonder what eden would look like if we had stayed? Acid rivers and rolling desert dunes, the bones of gods creations bleached white by a sun no longer held at bay.

We should all do what we can to avert such a terrible climax to the human drama.

I will write. My promise to my children is that I will write, and hopefully, someone will hear and take heed.

Have you ever tried to live off of bread and cheese? It's rather enlightening.

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Nicole, San Clemente Ca. — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:07:57 GMT

I took some of the suggestions from Live Earth and make sure my computer sleeps when I am not using it, I unplug my cell phone charger when not in use (reduces electricity) I am requesting no plastic bags at stores if they are not necessary, I walk to the local stores when possible and I am looking into solar panels for my home. You too can answer the call.......As long as their are humans alive on this planet it is not too late.

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Paul B — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:12:04 GMT

Premature deaths due to pollution may be the only way to keep China's rapidly growing population from growing out of control.

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Alferd E. Newman NYC — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:15:59 GMT

Webbles wobble but they don't fall down.

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Silvio A. Grigis Italy S. Pellegrino T. — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:41:04 GMT

Cynthia living in Beijing is one of the more interesting ladies, I did happen to know. Years ago she introduced me, in a medieval world, on its way to the future. They actually did. I am remembered when; I was young, working in Milan. By midday, my shirt had black and oily neck and cuffs. My handkerchief, a coal mine. At the same time, in New York, you could only see, a pale sun, your throat always hurting. In such a short time, China has surged to recognize and fight pollution problems. Many of our countries, still tries to downplay them. Cynthia let me remember you, your friends, and your hopes becoming true, as ours are, by the day. Complimenti Cinesi. (My best compliments Chinese).

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Joe Dirt, SK , Canada — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:12:51 GMT

China has not become so large so fast by accident, and it is not their consumerism that fanned the flames; it was ours.

I am offended at the comments made toward the Chinese and their methods of fighting pollution. Last I checked the US is trying to gain independance on oil sources (who cares where the oil is from?). I think New York should take %33 of it's cars off the road for three weeks. Just the same, LA should have regulated use of AC.

The Canadian government is tied up in itself, using the environment as a tool trying to score political points with the people.

China is doing noble deeds over there; too little, too late, whatever, atleast they are doing something.

And for the Americans citing water issues, lets not be the kettle and call the pot black. YOU are running out of water. YOU want CANADA to recontstruct and reingineer it's river system to flow the other way (it flows north now) so YOU can buy OUR water. When your water becomes unusable, I'll ship you 55 gallon drums for $50 a peice.

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wayne, toronto, Canada — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:15:54 GMT

I've been to China 20 times in last 4 years. Beautiful country and I don't think pollution is any worse than say L.A. on a bad day. They are trying hard to correct the problem as anyone who visits there can see. U.S. is still the world's number one polluter. Why do you want Canada's water if your own is so good? People in glass houses etc.

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Diana C., Irvine, CA — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:33:09 GMT

I went to China for a couple of weeks 2 years ago at the worst time of the year (August) and as I stood at the Bund in Shanghai, I do have to say that the entire horizon on the other side seemed like it was behind a gray screen...but the air didn't seem to affect anyone in my group. We even climbed the Great Wall with relative ease. And as someone who is not athletic at all, I think that the Olympic athletes should fare ok, especially when the government is trying its best to clean up the air. Now lets just hope that they keep it up after the Olympics...

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Rue-Dog — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:35:18 GMT

Why are we complaing so loudly about China...if we didn't want to buy that inexpensive (you enter it here) at Target or Wal-Mart or Sears or anywhere then China would not be making as much pollution. We need to stop kidding ourselves and be the change that we want for the rest of the world.

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Springfield, OR — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:37:15 GMT

I'm surprised no one has mentioned China's use of Ethos Fuel Reformulator to help clean up the air in Beijing to have improved air quality by the 2008 Summer Olympic Games. It's a shame that our Military uses it in Iraq, and now many other countries are using it in their official and public transit vehicles, Ecuador being one of the most recent. The Unser racing team is considering it's endorsement of Ethos FR and it was used in the last 2 Indy 500 races with great succes. It reduces harmful emissions by 30% in any type fuel, increases MPG by a conservative estimate of 7% to 19% but we have testimonials of up to 35% increae in MPG, prolongs engine life 50%, and reduces required maintenance and service necessities. Allied Waste & Disposal Compnay in San Diego has saved $36,000,000 in the last 6 years in fuel savings alone and have increased maintenance servicing from 250 hours to 750 hours over the same time span. Ethos FR is based on commercial jet airline engines use over the last 40 years and 10 years and millions of miles of road testing.

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Jay, Orlando, Florida — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:44:44 GMT

"Planting trees to combat pollution. And to think it took them this long to figure that out. Problem is, they have no land in which to plant them."

Although China has a large desert and mountainous areas in the central to western region, I seriously doubt they have no land to plant trees. The country is just slightly smaller than the USA (Hawaii and Alaska included).

I don't mind eating my words, just enlighten me a bit more about China.

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Melanie, Cape Coral, FL — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:52:00 GMT

The first step to fixing a problem is to become aware of the problem, then admit that there is a problem rather than continue to deny it. China has arrived at this place way ahead of the United States, good for them! I certainly hope we follow right along behind as soon as we get rid of the Bush Administration. The next step is to take swift and concrete measures toward resolution of these planetary problems, no matter how much they cost big business and our spoiled rotten 'gotta have it' consumerism culture. The technology exists to address our most pressing environmental problems immediately, right now, today...but it's all about the Benjamins isn't it? Who stands to gain and who stands to lose if higher standards and stricter laws and measures are imposed? You and I and the environment stand to gain. Who stands to lose? Just follow the money. Any more questions?

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Carlos DS, West Sussex, UK — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:58:44 GMT

its exciting to see the world taking actions against global warming, and happy china is finally taking this step, after all their pollution is also mainly caused from the manufacturing of our consumables, you know like toys and plenty other stuff say "Made In China", can't wait to see Dongtan complete built (a city designed to be carbon neutral, AMAZING!!!, check it out under technologies or just search for carbon neutral city at green.tv).

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nightwriter — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:01:37 GMT

Slow down and smell the roses - while you still can!!!

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may — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:07:35 GMT

i can't believe they are finally starting with removing plastic bags from the grocery stores are you that forgetfull to bring your own bags from home?

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Cassandra A. Seattle Wa — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:12:16 GMT

China leads the world in technolgy
So why not be the first to protect it..??
Hopefully this does make other's follow there example...

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Jessica- Pasadena, CA — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:27:51 GMT

I really hope they run a LOT of tests on this "rocket to disperse rain clouds." I was under the assumption that rain was a good thing! It cleanses the earth and provides more water for China's use seeing that they use so much of it. Maybe the rockets would be put to better use if they were aimed at factories producing toxic waste or at a pile of those 3 million cars. Other than that, I think they are taking some very good steps towards a healthier environment. I would like to see even more practical steps added before drastic ones.

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Jessica- Pasadena, CA — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:31:24 GMT

Another thought- maybe China is hosting the games to make sure they win! Their athletes are already used to breathing in polluted air. When the other athletes get there they're gonna be too busy gasping for air to perform their best! Psh... what a scam!

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grant lindsey nashville, tn — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:32:26 GMT

china was chosen very wisely; what better way to begin solving a problem; than to shine a world wide spotlight on it.

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grant lindsey nashville, tn — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:33:34 GMT

china was chosen very wisely; what better way to begin solving a problem; than to shine a world wide spotlight on it.

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Bill Johnson, Victoris BC Canada — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:45:53 GMT

To stop ovewhelming polution and earth warming. Quit flying, eliminate Mondays to Fridays and take the bus.

China's doing the dirty work of the world and sending the products like steel and manufactured products to those who can afford them at the expense of their own polluting industries. Nature cannot accommodate commuting or hauling freight at 550 MPH around the world. Its a grossly inefficient use of fossil fuel energy. Military activity is by far the worst to blame. We all know what country leads in this abuse of the world environment and it sure isn't China.

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J. Milton Stewart, Montgomery, Texas — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:09:27 GMT

My wife and I were on a group tour of 80+ to China for 22 days five years ago and the smog was unbelievable. Many of the population in Bejing and other cities were wearing breathing masks. I was the only one of our group that did not have respritory problems (from coughs for some to hospital for a few others when we returned) and I attribute that to my sleep apena breathing machine which I used on the trip. I saw all of the industrial and building pollution all over China during the trip and don't believe it can be cleaned up by the Olympic games or ever. I urge all all people who go to China for the games to take simple breathing masks. ( you can get thaem at Drug
Stores)

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cheryl burlington ks — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:12:18 GMT

i agree with the fact that this is a world wide problem and we should all encourage everyone to take part is what china is trying we all stoped driving so much and walking a little more we would be healthier ourselves and the world would benifit too. and maybe that oil prices would be affected so that the over all price of life might go down.

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Dave, New York — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:25:44 GMT

I think the French have done a reasonably good job on curbing pollution. They use 22% less energy per capita than they did 17 years ago, but their economy is twice as large. A lot of that is thanks to big government action - building nuke power plants, forcing all levels of gov't to buy natural gas powered vehicles and buses, enacting strict regulations, etc. That's a pretty good model. I think China has no-nonsense leadership that, while it won't make China green, will probably significantly reduce their pollution in 10 years. In the 1970s not even the most optimistic China-lover would have predicted the economic success that China has had. Watch the same thing happen in the environmental area. When they put their minds to something, they get it done, thanks to their form of government...

...unlike here, where we get to pick which special interest groups we want to put into power every four years...

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Bob Cram, San Diego, California — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:29:27 GMT

I have traveled extensively throughout Asia including China over the past 12 years. The growth of pollution has been shocking. I was in Shenzhen for two weeks about five months ago and I had a chronic sore throat and visibility was typically less than 1 mile. Although the govenment provides lip service to pollution control, there is actually very little done to control it and the WTO has essentially given China a get out of jail free card on industrial pollution.

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Mauricio Suarez, Medellin, Colombia — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:32:38 GMT

China should be the only country to continue to practice its current economic policy is such a way that will make other nations worry about the overall state of this planet. The Chinese have demonstrated as early Europeans did that they do not care about anyone else's problems but their own, and so continuing to pollute their country to a detrimental state will only rid them of a good number of its populace. Humanity has learned about the harm they bring with the process of invention and greed, but we do not really consider the habitat that others share with us also. I think what's happening now should remain at status quo until the next great migration of human beings is directed not towards Financially rich nations, but nations who can sustain life and those who appreciate it.

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Andre Carroll Dothan Alabama — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:33:25 GMT

Its okay for China to experience a change I think the whole world needs a chance to change in my view i think china is making the right move for its own sake because if you are trying to make your companyor warehouse grow larger then i would expect for somebody to help or make a move along with what i do also

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Em Monahan, San Diego, CA — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:35:03 GMT

By all means Go Green.....Stay Lean....and don't use gasoline!

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Andre Carroll Dothan Ala — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:35:27 GMT

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Rick, Enola, PA — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:35:51 GMT

I just came back from a trip to Maine. We drove our Civic Hybrid; 2188 total miles, 49.4 mpg., and that's not just highway travel. Yeah, it's a small thing, you could always say, "just stay home", but if more of us would trade in those SUV's for an efficient means of getting around, it would make an impact...

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gbt, st. george's, grenada — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:38:22 GMT

how about a little population control? three billion seems about right.

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David Nelson, Nashville, TN — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:03:06 GMT

You're article is misguided. China is neither green, nor will it be in the near future.

By refusing to acknowledge this point you perpetuate this nonsensual notion and legitimize irresponsibility. Serious environmental transgressions are occuring in China, and the best you can say is "China tries to go green." Shame on you.

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Brian, Shenzhen, China — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:15:52 GMT

I just taught my students in Shenzhen how to blog. I used this article and asked them to write their reactions. Most of them completely agreed. I used to live in Beijing, I could see the famed "bird's nest" from my apartment window. The pollution is really awful, but mostly in the spring. I was in Beijing during the government's attempt to reduce the cars on the road during the Sino-African summits. They just tell the 500,000 government officials to not drive their cars. They will be PAYING normal citizens to no do so during the Olympics in a, believe me, totally futile attempt to alleviate the city's gridlock. Just take the metro/underground with all the other workers. But remember that your elbows have a real purpose, when you get pushed out of the way in the spirit of Olympian "togetherness". And don't expect anyone to observe the quaint formalities of a "line".

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joe martinez ,toronto canada — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:28:35 GMT

China is the way it is because we made it that way.If we stop buyin the crap they sell,that may cause them to stop sellin crap.

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Rob Cortright, Chilton, Wisconsin — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:30:25 GMT

I think China has a chance to clean things up in time. I just read the book "The world without us" which talks much about pollution (as well as many other fascinating environmental issues). After that read, it seams as though they're stepping in the right direction.

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Ralph East Moline, IL — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:11:41 GMT

China's pollution was extreme 10 years ago and can be readily recognized by their short life expectancy. Much of their industrialization ignored the use of efficient technologies. Politically they exempted themselves from Kyoto protocols and now either is or soon will be the number 1 carbon emitter on this planet. They can do a lot, but as the major emitter they must step to the plate and increase their budget for pollution and safety from just over 1% to about 5% if they commit to good sustainable technologies. More if they use inefficient technologies of the past. They are building quite a few nuclear power plants so they will can make progress if they can practice energy conservation and shut down the dirty coal burning plants. Right now their energy consumption is going up so fast, I don't see anything being shut down and we continue to see unbelievable disregard to health by the contaminants in the foods and feeds they export to all countries. Clearly their actions must match their words to be believable. Maybe they could actually provide annual data to prove their plan is working!!!

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PJK Brillion, WI — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:18:39 GMT

I dont know about you but if the goverment would take a chance to listen to the people for idea's... ive talked to my friends and they have good ideas and if everyone in the world added all the little ideas together, it could help those scientist out there. They need our help and if we work together we can create something that could have a great affect on preserving the worlds enviroment for the benefit of all! Word and ideas can be more affective if they are put into actions

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D N Lober Phoenix, AZ — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:22:35 GMT

Remember, this is Americas pollution. We sent the jobs to China.

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PJK, Brillion, WI — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:26:07 GMT

TH=he goverment should let the people give ideas that they have. If we put our millions of small ideas with the power the goverment has to lanch the ideas into actions, who knows wat we could create to help humans repair the damage they have done to nature! Im just saying the goverment should give that a try! If you agree say....(I want to help)...at the end over your comment!

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Tom Lemon, San Francisco — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:39:18 GMT

Everybody talks about saving energy, but it's all just a bunch of talk. The reality is, EVERYBODY, even the so-called greens, are expanding their use of energy rapidly. For example, just by using the internet to post comments, we are all consuming massive amounts of electricity, because all the millions upon millions of web servers which power the internet run 24 hours a day. Google now consumes the power output of entire hydroelectric dams, just to power it's enormous server farms. Is anybody volunteering to stop using Google? I doubt it.

The Chinese have been starving for the past 100 years, there is no way they are going to give up their fast development and go back to being hungry. Forget it folks, not going to happen.

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Ron, Manteca, CA — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:15:38 GMT

Electric Cars would help China, and the world clean up polution. The largest amount of air polution comes from the tailpipes of billions of autos. The quicker we build the clean and quiet electric, the better we will breath, and the quicker our money will stay home, to build a strong aconomy so we can afford all our electrics.

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TIM CRESTLINE, CA — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:39:28 GMT

What's really scary is that China is now the world's leader in producing greenhouse gases (just passed the US. and while the US is stable in emitting greenhouse gases, China is INCREASING at 10% PER YEAR

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Chad, Lincoln, NE — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:51:44 GMT

I'm quite pleased with this, although it would be nice if they would do more such as limit emissions for the many factories in the country. China has tons of growth left ahead of it (unlike the US at present), so the problem will get much worse.

China tries to go green

Han Chang, Houston, TX — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:55:14 GMT

Probably control the number of polluters is easier than inventing new technology or regulations. If our population growth is negative, let it be. Don't encourage birth until it is down to 3 billion on the earth. This way is cheap, peaceful and effective. And it won't take long.

China tries to go green

Subtle Opinion, Northeast Ohio — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:53:06 GMT

Wow, take the industry out of the greatest manufacturing country in the world for bizarre political reasons, starting in the 50's. A country that was built on pride BECAUSE of its manufacturing. That's THE US.

EXPLOIT.

Exploit the lesser countries for their cheap resources and lack of laws pertaining to the environment and worker rights.

We (the US) are polluting China.

China tries to go green

SBK, Fresno, CA — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:55:55 GMT

CHINA has a lot to atone for, destroying the environment with excessive industrialization and "progress", excessive impure/ poisonous chemicals in exported pet food and toothpaste, beating to death dogs and cats for their fur for clothing that is falsely labeled, ALL IN THE NAME OF PROFIT. Did anyone hear that their masses are being fed cardboard on the streets?
EVERYONE SHOULD MAKE A SINCERE ATTEMPT TO BOYCOTT CHINESE PRODUCTS... FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR FAMILY'S HEALTH.
I've been trying. Believe me, it is hard... but worth it when you think that it will teach the Chinese that the consumer has considerable power. And we deserve to know EXACTLY what is being put into our food & clothes.

China tries to go green

Leila Shelton-Louhi, Republic of Panama — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:25:03 GMT

Human activity, uncontrolled and driven by avarice, will poison us all... starting with the air we share which will eventually reach every corner of the earth as toxins saturate it in more and more concentrated amounts.
As another VERY real and timely example,a miniature version of China, is happening in little "non-industrial" Panama right now, produced by rampant speculation feeding rapidly escalating construction (particularly of unsuitable CO2-generating throwback structures), perpetually-blocked streets (due to lack-of-planning), prolonged traffic jams, unenforced pollution controls, destruction of parks, trees and other greenery, the effect of which has destroyed the ability of breezes from TWO oceans to clean it out, even overnight.
Our GLOBAL challenge, which begins locally, is to fix what uncontrolled avarice, disguised by terms such as "development, progress, and investment", is doing and create a model for others to emulate. We are trying to do that in Panama. China is trying to do it in a much larger context. Less extreme versions of these things exist everywhere.
China and Panama are exponentially becoming literally more and more lethal daily, as well as "poster children" for our collectively illogical attitudes and activities. These issues are not unsolvable, but everyone must help. We ALL not only need to "watch this space", but take actions of our own to protect our own airspace and enviroment, plus support those trying to do so elsewhere because, if "they" fail, "we" ALL fail.

China tries to go green

NANCY CHAPMAN, FORT EDWARD, NY — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:19:24 GMT

THE GLOBAL WARMING ISSUE IS VERY FRUSTRATING AND OVERWHELMING TO THE REGULAR CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY. WE CAN ALL DO THE RIGHT THING TO BRING ABOUT SMALL CHANGES BUT THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO IMPLEMENT LARGE SCALE CHANGES IN ORDER FOR A TRUE IMPROVEMENT-THAT WON'T HAPPEN! OUR GOVERNMENT IS BACKED BY BIG BUSINESS AND BIG BUSINESS ISN'T ABOUT TO LOOK AT STOPPING GLOBAL WARMING WHILE THERE IS MONEY TO BE MADE.

China tries to go green

Fred L, Shenzhen, China — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:38:21 GMT

As an operations manager for one of the biggest commercial printing houses in China I would have to say that going green in China is somewhat a lost cause at this point.

Let’s keep it real, getting a company green requires capital - SERIOUS CAPTIAL. I’m not talking about the nickel and dime stuff where you can feel good by just spending some petty cash to sooth my soul. Going green is millions….Sure; you can make people in your plant recycle plastic bottles, use less paper or even just switching off lights when not in use. However, the biggest pollution contributors are the actual production processes and the wastage that derives from these processes.

Case in point – I recently applied to procure an industrial water filtration system which could basically guarantee fresh and clean water back to the mainstream sewage lines. The price was astronomical, over 2 million RMB – I was later denied from upper management. Now I am not going to go into why upper management did not approve of this purchase, it is pretty obvious… however I am going to talk about it anyways – If I purchase a filtration system, it will not value add or enhance our goods in any way, shape or form…no monetary gains, not a good investment for some.

In our cut-throat economy where profit is king, I find it hard to divert even the smallest amounts to a good cause because I am limited by the corporation. It is very sad, but this is how our economy works in China and I suppose the rest of the world as well.

Keeping it real, make no mistake, no matter where a corporation is based on God’s green earth, a corporation must adhere to the bottom line – to make as much money as it possible can in any given quarter. This lust for financial gain is the root of our problems not only in China but the rest of the world. Even with tough regulations over here in Shenzhen China, there are too many factories popping up for the government to handle.

I think in order to genuinely make our world a cleaner and more environmentally friendly place, the issue of making going green a profitable choice is a fundamental dilemma which we seriously need to address. I hope that at least in my lifetime, that this basic problem is solved and I pray that the next generations to come will not need to suffer for our lust and desires of profits.

China tries to go green

JOSHUA VAILLANCOURT, MIDLAND, MI — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:52:16 GMT

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China tries to go green

JAM, Wichita,KS — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:15:16 GMT

Empires rise and fall, civilization rise and fall, and just like the Romans... our downfall might be our own weakness. There is no question that china will meet the standards by olympic, only to comeback stronger in order to gain the capital that it has withold for olympic.So watch as pollution increases, and enjoy the ride.

China tries to go green

James, Windham, NH — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:17:49 GMT

In my opinion, I feel that the heavy industry in China is the leading cause of pollution. A possible solution would be research on more efficient ways to manufacture products. However, it is good to know that China is trying to clean up.

China tries to go green

Gavin, Laramie, WY — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:41:47 GMT

The price the world pays for "Made in China"

China tries to go green

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:51:15 GMT

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China tries to go green

Patricia Denney Las Vegas Nevada — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:54:48 GMT

Every under delevoped Country wants the American dream and we cannot blame them for that. America has the largest footprint on this fragile earth and should be the first Country to reduce their impact. There are Company's now in the process of renting a solar power system to consumers for the same monthly payment an individual uses for electricity. Sign up now and lock in your rate for the next 25 years. If eveyone did that Solar Power plants would be soon up and running, we would reduce our dependancy on coal, oil and nuclear power stations. Reduce pollution and, until we know what to do with nuclear waste we shouldn't even think about using Nuclear Power. We can save this earth one person and one step at a time. Instead of talking about doing something DO IT!

China tries to go green

Al Wolfson, Sarasota, Fla — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:03:40 GMT

The contradictions of the greens are breathtaking. They claim that 750 thousand Chinese die yearly from air pollution in one place, then bemoan the overpopulation of the world in another. Do they think the process of reducing world population is an antispetic one? They worry about acid rain, but think that they're going to get the energy to support 1st world standards of living for populations like China's and India's from renewable sources of energy, which won't be possible literally for centuries. They disdain DDT, but say nothing about the food which never grows to feed starving Africans due to its absence. They ignorantly oppose genetically engineered grains, which need less DDT and have higher yields and nutritional values, while they favor organic crops, which cannot possibly feed the world's minions. Finally, they moan over man made global warming, which is not even occuring, and propose to set up bureacracies at great cost to prevent this false problem, using funds badly needed to help people solve problems of hunger and disease. Green sounds good - but it is killing us.

China tries to go green

Susan Kautzer St. Louis, Missouri — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:14:22 GMT

Unfortunately in todays throw away society and the cheapness of China's labor force millions of people in country's all over the world help promote China's pollution problems by importing their products. I say the Chinese government should do something to provide a more liveable wage for its workers and eliminate child labor to help the roo of their pollution problem. By raising labor prices the price of goods will increase and hopefully the amount of products sent overseas will increase, but the price of goods exported should remain about the same. I know I am living in a perfect world right?

China tries to go green

KayLynn, OK — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:28:42 GMT

I am simply amazed at the bashing of the US by it's own citizens and a stupid Canadian. Having traveled to foreign countries, unlike alot of the above bloggers, the US is REALLY clean compared to most countries. Yes, we are large consumers but we have EPA regulations in place that are far better than most in the world. As for China, having been there a few weeks ago, I have seen first hand the topics discussed. Yes, they have completely polluted their country due to fast economic growth without the knowledge by most Chinese how to protect the environment. They are just banning urinating in public places for heavens sake, let alone stopping pollution. But they ARE know making an effort. I personally have seen tens of thousands of trees planted along the highways to help with the polluction problem. It is actually very depressing to be there under the gloomy skies that are a daily thing. As for Europe being any better than the US, get real. I've been there too and they are far trashier and have less regulations that the US. No one or any on country is perfect but I find it rather odd that the US is considered one of the worst when I have seen far worse in many countries. Just look at countries like Venezaela, Mexico, Germany, etc., they have factories belching pollution completely unchecked. Kudos for China for trying to turn things around.

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USA — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:33:37 GMT

Cooperate America the land where Lawmakers and oil companies expert profits for greed. Until the power is returned to the people, until the lobbyists or the special interest groups awaken to their deeds because they still have responsibility of the soul and the heart of the people, that awareness of their actions is our future. Look at the big picture…

Greed is the corrupt sin of the world, until we limit personal gains and spread the wealth the soul and intent of the American “Dream” will perish as the English world ownership did. A world power collapsed by the power of greed and mistrust.

China on the other hand, The worlds oldest civilization had much learned and have much to share also have their breaks in the system of greed and corruption but shooting the heart trying to break from the evils of greed and personal gains is not easy when others hold the power cards.

This human nature, an effect of human survival that has grown proportionally in the complex health systems we have in place. We can have better control on health but not our animalistic behaviors from our recent emersion of personal human survival. No longer are we surviving from far away lands, we now can hold each others hands for we need to ALL be part of the whole world, helping one another, just as all the countries in the world tried to do with their peoples when they all had their own “little “ worlds. Until we become aware we are all on the same boat, we all ride on the same rock rotating the same star for billions of years and look at the bigger picture instead of dwelling on trivial personal gains not just corporations but religions taken the same paths of greed and creators of mistrust.

The need to look at the bigger picture is needed here are you all that blind? Yes, we all agree there is a God but who are we to judge which way to worship? Let it be, let the heart choose designation – hey they may be right for all we know…but never with a sword.

Arise neighbors! Until we stop the plunder our rights of existence shall perish as being main flavor in the surviving biological soup of existence!

China tries to go green

Bob , Kelseyville — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:07:02 GMT

The chinese see how polluted their air is and they HAVE to make things less polluted....or stop breathing...or die!!
The USA wont be far behind with our current bozo's in charge, air pollution is caused by burning fossil fuel. Our president and his band of criminals will continue to fiddle while Rome burns...Impeach them before its too late....if its not too late already!

China tries to go green

Elaine Rodriguez, San Juan, Puerto Rico — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:10:21 GMT

lets stop being critics. What's happening in China is affecting the whole human race. Every country and human animals should be doing something.

China tries to go green

Mike Dunbar, Kent, Washington — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:26:24 GMT

I lived in China 94-96, and went back in 04'. I love China and the Chinese, so I enjoy your blog, and appreciate the news, respect and honesty.
- I wonder how long before we re-learn in the USA to live near where we work, and build and grow locally.
- I do wish the best for Beijing last year. In Atlanta in 96' everyone was encouraged to take 2 weeks off from work, or work from home to lessen smog.

China tries to go green

Dwight Watt, Swainsboro GA — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:24:31 GMT

I don't think some writers have ever been to China or realize shape US was in the 60s. They do have land and lots of it over there so plenty of place to plant trees. And can do urban planting as is being done elsewhere in world.

It is not an indication of how we in US will end up if we do nothing. It is where were. The pollution and barren landscapes remind me plenty of what it was like in urban areas in US in 60s. We have made tremendous strides on reducing pollution in US as environment movement came along. Yes we have a long way to go still, but cars, factories, greenness air are a lot better than in 60s or before. How often are you behind a car now that belches smoke? Not often but many did in 60s.

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Dobi, idaho — Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:43:50 GMT

The problem is we are overpopulated! More people, more polution and more need for resources. Ask any ecologist, and he will tell you that the maximum amount of people our planet we live on can naturally supply with resources is "1 Billon"!!!!
Have you noticed the rapid growth of jellyfish on the beaches? That comes from overfishing!!!! The fishes usually feed on young jelly fishes. The other problem is that we are all to greedy. Each nation wants to be the "richest", what means more citicens are wanted to get more money, to produce more, to sell more, to ... .
What do you need 5 kids for? Don't we pay enougth taxmoney so our government could support us once we are old?
Yeh, i like the idea of having some heads cut off. Let's start at the top!
My girlfriend is a ecologist (PHD), and i have learned a lot in the last 2 years i know her. And everything was proven with facts. I am hard to convince by just talking, but she did it with facts.
And because of others which have 5 or more kids, she really doesn't want any kids, since we are overpopulated. And the worst about it is, since we need more food than our planet naturally can provide, we use chemicals (pesticides) which we ingest sooner or later (food, water, air) to keep getting the maximum amount of food produced.

There is also another problem that overuse of land brings with it. Look at the Palouse in WA. The dird from the fields erodes slowly, washing into the sorounding rivers every spring. That is because farmers have to plow their fields at fall and plant at fall. The open dirt is washed down every spring with the melting snow and following rain.
That is what we get from overpopulating our planet and trying to be the "richest" nation.