http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspxBy Adrienne Mong, NBC News Producer China may have 144 million Internet users, but spend a Sunday afternoon at the multi-storey Xidan Books, and you’ll discover a whole lot of Chinese folks trawling for information the old fashioned way. Three sectionsen-USCommunityServer 2.0 (Build: 60608.1)http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217539Thu, 07 Jun 2007 19:13:44 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217539John Doe, DCOne of the atrocities that Mao committed was purging the traditional values from Chinese society most notably the Culture Revolution. A country cannot move ahead far enough without a solid foundation of faith and moral values. The government of Hu Jintao realized it and has started measure to restore the lost traditional values. The Chinese people I know are loving, loyal and peaceful folks because of the deeply embedded influence of Confucianism.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217634Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:26:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217634Susan Reeves, Wooster, OhioEdgar Cayce predicted 40 years or more ago that China would become the "cradle of Christianity" at sometime in the future. It has seemed far-fetched but he also saw the fall of the USSR. It's time to get right with our creator, love God and each other more than we love ourselves. Pave the way people, spread the word. The voice within is the loudest voice with which God speaks; just be still and listen. Thank you.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217659Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:40:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217659Patricia RoudebushReminds me of the Beatles song, "Eleanor Rigby." I see lots of lonely people searching, searching, searching for life's true meaning. They will find the answer in the Bible, the Word of God. I pray they search in the aisle which has the book which can answer their questions completely.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217718Thu, 07 Jun 2007 21:23:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217718premhumans will forever look for comfort from a supreme force.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217777Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:19:58 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217777Linda, San Diego Alright..How does the man who was shot in Shanghai have anything to do with Chinese people wanting to be more in touch with Buddhism or spirituality? Do you know for a fact that the police who shot this man is religious? or is he a Buddhist? I simply don't see what the big surprise is on people wanting to be more spiritual and religious. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217801Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:01:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217801Carl, Santa Ana, CAGood article. Thanks.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217831Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:10:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217831Steven from Hattiesburg, MSI'm glad the peace of Buddha, Taoism, Confucianism and other belief systems are spreading through China again. (And the lady is right, Buddhism -- like Confucianism -- is a life philosophy, not a religion.) If China is truly moderating its extreme anti-religion stance, it's a hopeful sign.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217864Fri, 08 Jun 2007 01:24:02 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217864Joyce JamesNotwithstanding the massive attempt in the old Soviet block and in communist China to outlaw religion, people are naturally spiritual. See karen Armstron'gs work on the History of God. Sadly many acts of violence have been carried out in the name of religion so that many believe it is irrelevant. Your article illustrates our natural inclination to think beyond ourselves as a species. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217865Fri, 08 Jun 2007 01:25:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217865Mike Henderson, Wheeling, ILI pray for the millions of "house church" Christians in China who are so persecuted by the various levels of government. My prayer is that they will find peace in the presence of God and that their faith in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord will be un flinching. Even those imprisoned for their faith in Christ have the blessed opportunity of sharing in Christ's sufferings, while reflecting His love toward fellow prisoners and even the guards who so often mistreat them terribly. Wherever the church of Jesus Christ has been persecuted it has flourished. China is no exception. Praise God!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217866Fri, 08 Jun 2007 01:26:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217866PNGanlyBecause of religious fanaticism and Americas preocupation with the "Baable"(bible), this nation is reverting back socially to a type of state someting like Iran with its Quran and its 7th century era shiaric law, I mean, looking at the other comments Im the only one here who is'ent desperatly hoping that the Chinese convert to Christianity! I know that they never will. The Chinese people are much too intelligent to fall for an ol' charlotan game like that, more so than the dumb redneck homies here in the "baable" belt! http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217868Fri, 08 Jun 2007 01:26:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217868Amber, Dayton, OhioTaoism, Buddhism and Confucianism are more than spiritual paths for the Chinese. They are part of China's history and culture. Any time spirituality is forced upon or forced out of individuals, humanity suffers. This is as true of the state forbidding religion as it is true of forcing your religious path onto others. None of the Chinese paths require forced coersion (or elimination) of the rest of the non-believing planet. Perhaps western culture should be taking notes.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217878Fri, 08 Jun 2007 01:56:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217878A.L. SparrowLet them do what ever they want. But theres only one truth. When the times start getting worse and things dont seem to be getting better, we will see who everyone will turn to.The WORD will show him self at that time and every one will bow down to him and then there wont be one athiest in the fox hole.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217885Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:04:58 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217885 Lee, Beijing, ChinaBuddhism and Taoism do have a lot to offer modern China, although many people misunderstand the teachings in ways that I thought were reserved to college freshmen in America. "The yin yang means like good and evil are both necessary, so if there are good men there MUST be bad men, if there are honest men there must be corrupt men" I often hear this spouted in China when the corruption of the government is brought up. That idea is quite contrary to Taoism's goal of harmony, because evil and corruption are both unbalancing. This gives the evil and corrupt in China's society a "blank check" to screw other people, especially those in the new rich part of that society. Confucianism rising again bothers me a bit though. First, Chinese do not make a division between early Confucianism and the later damaging interpretations we know as neo-Confucianism. It is likely then that any re-emergence of Confucianism will come back with the worst aspects of it still intact. Confucianism is not a religion but a societal philosophy that at its worst (the neo aspects) teaches blind obedience to your leaders. I'm sure that the government here would LOVE to see a return to those roots so they can exploit a once again obidient populace. This "spiritual exploration" was much more obvious in the late 90's with the appearance of Fa Lun Gong. Often believed to be a "simple meditation exercise" by the west it is something more akin to Scientology where members are expected to bankrupt themselves for the group. I'm NOT backing up any Chinese government claims that they were trying to overthrow the government, but to me they always look like Aum Shinrikyo (the group that posioned the Tokyo subway). They even believe that their "great leader" can fly, though he's too modest to do so. They also believe that anyone of mixed ancestry cannot go to heaven. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217893Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:21:32 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217893John Zanders, Houston, TexasThis aphorism is attributed to the Buddha. "Do not put your faith in traditions only because they have been honored by many generations." Buddhism has been referred to as a religion without faith. We learned that there are three essential practices of Buddhism, i.e. as a religion, as a philosophy, or as a way of life. It can be practiced as any one of these, or in any combination of the three. Buddhism in its essence urges the reduction of human suffering. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217903Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:41:46 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217903harrAll of you gave deep and meaningful insight in your view of the article.I to was once in the various religions and philosphy. If you are interested their is a gentleman who is a grandmaster in the martial arts,Named Brady Cameron in america who went through some awesome experiences and now has made a personal development programs out of it called creotology personal development i think it is awesome. just wanted to give my experience and to sound of that we have great philosphy created here in america as well. the site is creotology.comhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217930Fri, 08 Jun 2007 03:28:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217930J Deans. Long Beach. CaliforniaContrary to what some in the USA think, spirituality is part of the inner landscape of all peoples and a part of all national identities.It cannot be codified in a book or suppressed by rule of law. It is a part of being human. As for Fear, Dogma,Retribution,Exclusion, Superstition and Self Rightousness we can look these up in our own religous retoric. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217931Fri, 08 Jun 2007 03:28:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217931Tad Butt, Billings, MTAs the government control over the people in China loosens its grip, the people there are searching tfor maening to fill the void they find inside themselves. Many are trying to fill the void by seeking "western" solutions like materialism, physical gratification, etc. But many young people are also searching for something deeper. I have had many great spiritual discussions in China over the past few years and it is wonderful to see the humble and open hearted yearning for truth. Wether it is through Buddhist, Christian or Taoist teachings it is a wonderful start.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217939Fri, 08 Jun 2007 03:43:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217939John DoeSusan Reeves your comment has absolutely nothing to do with this article - please stop trying to push your religion down our throats and re-read the article which is about Buddhism and Taoism in China, it is not about some useless "christian prediction" that is obviously totally wrong...http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217945Fri, 08 Jun 2007 03:57:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217945RIchard Cheney, Roy, UTI travel to China frequently and encounter plenty of people who are on verge of a spiritual explosion. I don't deal directly with government officials, but the common man and woman on the street are looking for spritual guidance in many directions. I draw no distinction between a life philosophy and religion; they oight to be one and the same. You are you who you are, not merely the jacket worn on the day of worship. I think that is how the Chinese will embrace spirituality.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217961Fri, 08 Jun 2007 04:36:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217961Bobby, Jackson, TNGod has allowed the people of China to a lot of hardship. He also allowed Christians there to endure many trials and some have died in the name of Jesus. May God be glorified by their sacrifices. May many more come to know his name and the salvation which comes through Him.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#217985Fri, 08 Jun 2007 05:39:33 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:217985Aracely Marin, Medford, OregonTo Linda of San Diego: i believe the author was simply trying to emphisize the need for harmony in society, he was not saying that the police who shot the man was religious, but simply that the Chinese really are seeking something to help them in their lives. You cannot deny that at some point you do need to realize who your source of strength in life is, or who it should be. If you rely on yourself, you will see you fail yourself too much, if you rely on something else in this earth, it will also fail you. What people need to acknowledge is that they need to rely on Christ, who is the ultimate source of strength. With His help, we will be able to face anything in this world. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218000Fri, 08 Jun 2007 06:51:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218000Joel, Panyu, Guangdong, PRCLet's hope organized religion keeps it's historical and modern ugly face out of China. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218020Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:46:08 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218020Hans Dekker Paramaribo Suriname S.A.I earnestly pray that millions of Chinese people will find the only way to salvation in Jesus Christ.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218028Fri, 08 Jun 2007 11:23:13 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218028sdfklmnvf'lkmS"LDVKmnKnow Jesus and know peace. No Jesus, there is no peace.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218052Fri, 08 Jun 2007 12:44:46 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218052Indygirl, IndianapolisPEOPLE! Don't fool yourselves into thinking that the Chinese Goverment is softening on religious freedom. They still imprison people for practicing their own faith, (worshiping in ways/places not sanctioned by the government) in particular, Christianity. People die in Chinese prisons and their children are routinely arrested for their parents' faith in an attempt to get parents to recant their confession of faith. It is very true that the Chinese people are hungry for spiritual meaning, which is why house churches are so prevalent in China, but the only thing the Chinese government is interested in is keeping them under brutal, oppressive control. If you have any doubts, check out the VOM website (Voice of the Martyrs). http://www.persecution.com/members/countryMap/index.cfm?action=countryView&countryID=5http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218068Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:09:50 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218068Doroth Jenks Lakin KansasI find comfort in the fact the Chiness are feeling a need to search for a deeper meaning iin life. I would hope that the American people are praying forr China.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218077Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:13:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218077Howard, San Diego, CAWhat exactly is "enough anecdotal evidence"? Linda is right. I hope that Chinese society does not trade one oppressing dogma for another. Would we be feeling so good about their spiritual search if they were seeking 72 virgins in Paradise? http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218090Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:37:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218090RCCSoldat, IllinoisBecause of religious fanaticism and Americas preocupation with the "Baable"(bible), this nation is reverting back socially to a type of state someting like Iran with its Quran and its 7th century era shiaric law, I mean, looking at the other comments Im the only one here who is'ent desperatly hoping that the Chinese convert to Christianity! I know that they never will. The Chinese people are much too intelligent to fall for an ol' charlotan game like that, more so than the dumb redneck homies here in the "baable" belt! PNGanly (Sent Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:26 PM) Peace be with you.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218111Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:53:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218111Christopher Pensacola, FLAlthough American media outlets will never admit to the Christian religion, it's obvious to see why China is beginning to enjoy the fruits of its labor. If you really look at the countries that have been or are currently successful, you'll see that there is a huge protestant base associated with that country. It's exciting to see Korea, China, and some smaller African countries developing quite rapidly both socially and economically. However, it's sad to see America decrease from its greatness as people leave the faith. Whether we choose to believe or not, you have to admit (after doing some research), there is an amazing coorelation between true faith in Jesus and economic prosperity.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218126Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:01:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218126jorgeChina will never be a home for Christianity so Christians should forget about that. If it ever became such a home it would become so different from Western Christianity that Western Christians would immediately condemn it as heretical. A good example are the "Hidden Christians" of Japan who believe that Jesus or Zesusu was born from Maruya, a 12-year-old Filipino girl from Luzon who was made pregnant by Deusu or god. They believe in 12 heavens. Pontius Pilate is two people--Ponsha and Piroto--who were soldiers that arrested Zesusu. Judas or Judatsu betrayed Zesusu and as his reward was stricken with a huge nose and a long tongue that hung out of his mouth. He was so distraught over the disfigurement that he runs into the woods and hangs himself. When Zesusu learns of Judatsu's death, he is grief-stricken. 3 days after his death, Zesusu came down from heaven and stood on his coffin while people worshiped him. He then taught the pope about he afterlife for 50 days before going back to heaven. When the Catholic Church demanded that the Hidden Christians revise their story into the traditional Catholic one and come back to the fold, the Hidden Christians told them to get lost. And that's what will happen on a much larger scale if the East accepts Christianity as the West hopes. Those Asian nations that do adopt traditional Western Christianity will fall into 3rd worldism having lost their identity as a people--so careful what you wish for. As for Confucianism, it is one of worst blights on a society. Confucianism has created the rigid, intolerant, xenophobic, misogynistic society that made China ripe for exploitation by a Mao. I have no opinion on Taoism and Buddhism.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218143Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:14:42 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218143Jane Doe, DCReligious fanatics will ruin America. It will turn into a Christian version of Middle-East. We will again become economic slaves to Asia.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218146Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:15:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218146ACMAlthought a fantastic idea, the big trouble with organized religion is the premise "My belief is better than yours" while secretly doubting in the first place whether I really believe "My belief". If one does not doubt "My belief" then they are not being honest. Further, religious comparision is based on an incorrect inherant premise that "My archaic belief" is better because of the incorrect in your archaic belief. It fails to recognize the incorrect in "My archaic belief". State interference in religion - pro or anti - is far worse. In an "ideal" world, religion should be personal and in that realm, it remains no longer organized. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218149Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:16:41 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218149Iwasblind,butnowIsee,Jax.Fl.No surprise to see so many misguided people still caught up in the propaganda of "religion"! Tell me again how great it is when all religions have murdered so many people and still do. Especially "christianity" which is only an offshoot of another murderes religion. P. T. Barnum had it right, "a sucker is born every minute" and they are the future victums of this business. Religions has devided, control and enslave humans and that's it's purpose along with makeing a shit load of money! Same as governments. There are none soooooooooooo bind as those who still do not see! A human's relationship with the real God, is between them and God! It is not required to be sanctioned by anyone else or a "religious" institution and or the real "big business"! As far as Edgar Cayce, he also predicted Atlantis was suppose to be rising and or discovered several years ago. So where is it? He should have stayed with what he was good at and not at "predictions". But since this was brought up then I predict that in the next five years, humans will find out the truth about "religion" and it won't be pretty!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218190Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:45:57 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218190John, Orlando, FLBuddhism is in fact a religion. It does not have a central deity in the western sense but does have a very intricate spiritual pantheon that far exceeds a simple "life philosophy". The San-jiao (Buddhism, Taoism and Confucianism) are intricately woven and in practice do recognize deities. Classifiying them as "life philosophies" is not only incorrect but also quite insulting. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218205Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:58:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218205Sean, Torrington CTMorals = Ethics + Tooth Fairy. Faith is poison in the modern age. Serious belief in the non-existant is a mental illness, not something to be paraded about as a positive. Your god was made-up by other humans who lived in an ignorant and savage time...and your god's rules reflect that. Therefore, god-believers are ignorant and savage. They remind us of this all the time, at home and abroad, by their hate-filled actions toward those who do not believe their fairytales. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218214Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:04:08 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218214David, Kent, WAI recommend the book, "god is not Great", How Religion Poisons Everything" by Christopher Hitchens. "He addresses the most urgent issue of our time: the malignant force of religion in the world." "He makes the ultimate case against religion through a close and learned reading of the major religious texts." He writes,"God did not make us. We made God." Religion, he explains, is a distortion of our origins, our nature, and the cosmos. We damage our children - and endanger our world - by indoctrinating them. Cristopher Hitchens was named, to his own amusement, number 5 on a list of the "Top 100 Public Intellectuals" by Foregn Policy and Britain's Prospect. For more information about Christopher Hitchens, you can visit: www.twelvebooks.comhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218215Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:04:32 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218215michele sutphin, campbellsville, ky.The gospel is being opend to everyone across the world now.. we are in the final days, if you read your Bible and its prophecies, Jesus is returning to take us, who have accepted Him and God in His infinite love, wants all to come to Him, though all wont, he gives numerous chances to.. May many Chinese and people everywhere come to know the only Savior there was, is , or ever will be Jesus Christ..http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218230Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:12:38 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218230Bob Jones, Atlanta, GAHey, Chinese are following religious model that never failed and keeps dumber general population happy pursuing one of the made up religions. Please note though the direct relation between population starting to question freedoms and one party rule due to improving education and a quick move towards religion as a tool to keep sheep in check. It works in our country. It works in every country. Majority is just not educated enough to make decisions for themselves, right?... "Faith means not wanting to know what is true." - Freidrich Nietzsche.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218233Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:14:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218233teannah, st. louis, mo.Does anybody realize that nobody ever killed anyone for their own good (the stake) or went to war in the name of Zeus? It took the Christians to come up with that.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218235Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:17:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218235Jimmie DoeJohn Doe (June 7 11:43, maybe you should find some inner peace and re-read Ms. Reeves comments. She merely stated a quote from an individual. This article was about people's search for knowledge through the tradition ways, of using books and part of that search included religion. MANY religions were mentioned. So, perhaps this John Doe should re-read both pieces and not let his hate and anger toward religion (particularly Christianity) reflect on America, as a whole. Sometimes the ignorant say ignorant things and sometimes the angry are so blind, they can't see beyond themselves. Perhaps, Mr. Doe you should seek some time with your Maker. I say these thing out of love. Search for peace, I'll pray for you. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218246Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:29:42 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218246Sasha SchmitzIt is worrying that so many people here think that Christianity is the way to go in China. They have some of the most interesting religions in the world and it would be nice if they are able to keep things as they are now. With a steadily growing number of missionaries and Christian-oriented organisations in China I just can't help but feel like the Christians are forcing their way in. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218261Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:40:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218261Scott, Dallas, TexasThe message of Christ (and Christianity) is this: Love your neighbor as yourself. Love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. While I agree that Christianity has been misused, abused, and that many awful things have been done in the name of religion, those of you trashing Christianity do not understand the real message of Christ. But there is hope for you still - don't worry. The greatest persecuter of Christians - Saul - was stopped dead in his tracks on the way to Damascus and became the founder of the modern church - under the name of Paul. There is hope for you still! Praise Godhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218269Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:45:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218269DanielIn response to ::::Because of religious fanaticism and Americas preocupation with the "Baable"(bible), this nation is reverting back socially to a type of state someting like Iran with its Quran and its 7th century era shiaric law, I mean, looking at the other comments Im the only one here who is'ent desperatly hoping that the Chinese convert to Christianity! I know that they never will. The Chinese people are much too intelligent to fall for an ol' charlotan game like that, more so than the dumb redneck homies here in the "baable" belt! :::::: - PNGanly I think that is an incredibly discriminatory thing to say. I myself am a well educated Christian with a 148 point Intelligence Quotient (I am not posting that to brag, but demonstrate my statement). It seems unfair for you to say that people of intelligence would not convert to Christianity, I myself was athiesitic/agnostic for many years before converting to Christianity. I can defend my faith well, and believe it is the most logical faith system on the planet(I realize that this is a subjective statement open for argument). If anyone wishes to discuss the subject of whether Christianity can be intellectually rational and not merely proposing a specious argument for faith, AND discuss it logically and calmly please e-mail me. xdannypoox@aol.com http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218272Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:48:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218272Hope ForAllIt is good to hear that the once called "religious underground" in China is finding a place in the minds and hearts of the people in a more open fashion. I have been watching such issues unfold since I first heard of the massive abuse of religious rights in that country decades ago. The Bible predicts that all the world will open up to hearing of religious matters. China will not be the last. So I pray that the people of that land will hear, learn, and choose as time get shorter.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218311Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:18:02 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218311Roger Beaudreault, Providence, RIWherever Christianity has gone, it has destroyed the cultures of the indigenous populations. I hope the Chinese are smart enough not to allow Christianity to gain any foothold in their country. A renewed interest in their ancient religions and philosophies is fine from a cultural and historical perspective. However, if the government allows people to actually practice religion, it better be prepared for the sectarian strife that is sure to follow. All hope for a peaceful and prosperous future for China will be lost. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218312Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:18:42 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218312Laurie K, Lawton, North DakotaDear People, Please consider your statements and beliefs carefully before spouting them. Get honest with yourself and God and if you are open, he will convict you himself. The world is a stage for unbelievers, so that none will be able to say at Judgement they were not afforded an opportunity.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218320Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:25:13 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218320Indygirl, IndianapolisOK, so you do or don't embrace a faith. Isn't it great that you get to choose for yourself? Whether or not you believe one faith or another, you should be allowed to think, believe and practice the faith you choose without fear of imprisonment or torture from the government or others. I don't really care if you like "religion" or not . . . the issue for China is NOT whether China becomes a Christian nation or Hindu or Buddhist or Muslim, for that matter. Governments cannot be Christians or Hindus or Buddhists or Muslims -- only people can make those faith commitments. The issue for China is whether or not it allows its citizens to worship (if they choose) as they choose. I'm a Christian, and as frustrated as I get in America about how Christians are portrayed, I am incredibly blessed and privileged to live in a nation where I may worship freely and speak with people about Jesus, leaving them with a choice to choose or reject him. If you think that's folly, you're entitled to your freedom to believe that, but it's my right to disagree -- I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I realize not everyone will accept him, but at least it's their choice. In China, nobody gets to make that choice for themselves. The Government offers watered down versions of faith in state-sanctioned churches, where the most major of tenets of faith are forbidden and where attending a church as a family with minors is also forbidden, so you can't even raise your children the way you want. If people decide to go against these policies, they are imprisoned under false charges, tortured into confession and if they live, they are left to live with lifelong injuries as a result. It's why China is still on the list of countries with poor human rights records and is likely to remain so for some time to come. Whether or not you believe in any faith, no one should have to endure what these people endure.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218322Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:25:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218322Lucia, COPersonally, I hope China doesn't convert to Christianity. The first reason that comes to mind is that (having been to China) I have noticed that the traffic on Christmas Eve increases greatly, making it impossible to get anywhere. The second one that comes to mind is that the God of the Old Testament once tried to wipe out all life on Earth and did an assortment of other unethical things. What was ethical when the Bible was written isn't ethical by today's standards. For example, the Bible makes women seem like second-class citizens. If Chinese were to follow the Bible word-for-word (as Christian Fundamentalists seem to want) then we would have about half a billion more sexists in the world.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218336Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:36:44 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218336Indygirl, IndianapolisI just love how people make assumptions about what it really means to be a Christian without actually having been one. What a joke.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218395Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:14:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218395john floridawhat makes any of us believe that this is a first to the chinese?we can understand why it was not done in public before and maybe they are testing the waters to see what is done about it.for those of you that think religion is a fairy tale, well it may be but why would you want to make a joke of those that have a belief in whatever makes them feal good about thenselves and their lives. i have not seen one posting that is trying to change what you believe even if it is nothing.I myself am not dedicated even thought i was raised roman catholic but a little believing hurts no one.you an the other hand seem to always want to convert people into nothing. the piont is you can go through life with nothing as a guide and it works for you. It's like going on a trip without a map and getting lost you may find one day that you might have needed one and are now you wont ask for directions.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218398Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:19:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218398Jimmy D., Taipei, Taiwan"If Chinese were to follow the Bible word-for-word (as Christian Fundamentalists seem to want) then we would have about half a billion more sexists in the world." Lucia, CO Read about Confucianism, please. There's a good reason why foot-binding was popular in historical China, and there's a good reason why modern, rural Chinese women so often kill themselves. Confucianism already is extremely sexist. Historical or Neo-, either way.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218404Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:20:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218404chance tanner, chicagoI think it would be more appropriate for them to adopt taoism and buddhism as it is a better cultural fit. I think it is ignorant to think we should hope a billion people adopt our faith here. I also cannot believe all of the commentary from people who act as if they are prophets themselves.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218474Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:05:47 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218474Francesco, Washington, DCOf course, the only "spiritual" books that can be legally printed and sold in China are those that have been reviewed an approved by the government. The Chinese Communist government does not permit anything it cannot control. That's the reason it banned Falun Dafa (also known as Falun Gong): http://www.falundafa.org . http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218483Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:10:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218483Julie Owens-Evans, Germantown, MarylandHopefully, Buddhism will gain a foothold in China, as Buddhism is a beautiful, all-inclusive philosophy of compassion that brings supreme happiness and peace to those who embrace it, which, in turn, creates a positive chain reaction that enhances anyone and anything fortunate enough to be in its path, the ideal salve to help soothe and heal the wounds of a volatile planet Earth. And then, also, maybe we could dream that the Chinese people could miraculously influence their leaders to allow His Holiness, The Dalai Lama, to return to Tibet, and once again be free to teach and lead from his Beloved Homeland. He is surely no threat to China, and I believe his return to home would create a unified, worldwide celebration of harmony. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218527Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:34:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218527vs, TC, CANo matter what your faith or non-faith is, it should be for Peace. Does it really matter otherwise? If the Chinese are looking for faith - allow it. If it is any of their historical religions - allow it. If it is Christ - allow it. The Beatles sang, "Love is all you need." It could happen. Let's not force stuff on the people of the world. Just allow their faith to open and happen for Peace.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218567Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:55:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218567skt, Dallas, TexasAs a Chinese, I'm happy to inform y'all that thousands and thousands of people convert to Christian everyday. The love and strength of Christianity permeate tremendously over China in the past 15 years or so. Do you know that the print shops in China printing Bible now? There are Barn and Noble type of Christian bookstore now spreading? Amazing things are happening in China! TV shows talks about love which Jesus commands and Confucius teaches us to have in our lives. It is encouraging to hear that Chinese people in China are searching spiritually. Once they do (as everyone should do), the true God prevails and people are blessed!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218585Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:04:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218585George, Xiamen, ChinaTo "Indygirl, Indianapolis": I think you are a very sincere person. Please consider this point though. What if what you claim is not so true, and in practice, people generally have a great deal of religious freedom in China. There are Chinese laws against conducts aiming at destabilizing the country. Then, what you are doing is potentially causing those who really don't *know* the actual situation in China to hate Chinese more for their "lack of Christian" freedom. Are you then a good Christian - because you are essentially spreading inaccurate information and making peoples of one country and another to further hate eachother? I've studied the bible, so I think Christianity as a religion is fine. The world will be at peace if everyone does what it says. Remember, too, though, during the Crusades, many criminals were promised salvation by the Pope if only they go and kill Muslims. You see, Christianity is often used to rally the innocent (and the criminals alike).http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218602Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:13:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218602CommonSense, NCFor you people who believe in nothing have you ever heard of probability? Yeah the idea of this chemical soup crap from the "Big Bang" theory is laughable and so is the Evolution theory for humanity. You can't even put a number on the exact % chance for it happening because it is so low. Yeah and science as so smart....seeing as tons of our methods we still employ through it are flawed. From a common sense and logical point of view there has to be SOME greater power that created us. Has our precious science figured out what force it is that controls gravity? Has our oh so called experts forgotten that Evolution is just a THEORY? Apparently everyone has been beaten with a "stupid stick". The ignorance displayed by those saying Christianity is plague on society obviously know nothing about true Christianity or draw their judgements from the history of our society which made it law which is not something condoned in the Bible especially when people took it and used it as a shield for propaganda. Seriously before you start bashing something why don't you read into it? I love how anti-Christians take history and use the actions of those who CLAIM to be Christians, but were not because their actions contradict it and it's teachings to preach against it. Or they take the old laws given in the Old Testament that no longer apply and put them completely out of context. To be an atheist is to be ignorant. To be ignorant is self destructive and spiritually inhibitive. It's like an unrecognized form of mental retardation. At least agnostics don't deny the existence of a greater power and don't go drooling their ignorance and saliva on the rest of us. Why don't you go through the testimonies over the course of history and realize not all them could be lies or false. I have seen someone healed of cancer and our so called "science" couldn't explain it when they went back to the doctor. If you want to point fingers at a destructive religion that claims to teach peace look at Islam. The only reason ANY muslims are peaceful is because they can't read the Quran. Their religion preaches to kill and pillage unbelievers and their Quran says just that. There are radical Christians who reflect badly on us, but if they were acting like Christians they wouldn't behave in such a manner. China is never going to go one way with a religion anyway as there are many people believing way too many different things. Religions all have good and bad and before you go bashing something the least you could do is look into what it teaches and if you have and still go bashing it then fine. Just don't pull some garbage out of your rear when it's by someone misusing that religion either in the past(such as with the Dark Ages), present, or future. If you wish to flame me feel free because I could care less. Flap your yapper and forked tongue. Someone will surely step on it. In the end of none of what I say matters because we all will be judged. PERIOD.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218609Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:18:32 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218609Rinchen GyatsoI pray that the Buddhist revival continues in China and that it continues to spread around the world. Whether you look at it as a religion or a philosophy, Buddhism has a great deal to offer the world.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218633Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:33:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218633KEVIN LEMASTERS PAINESVILLE, OHIOI FIND IT FUNNY THAT THIS ARTICLE ONLY MENTIONS CHRISTIANITY ONCE AS AN AFTER THOUGHT. CHRISTIANITY IS EXPANDING IN CHINA FASTER THAN IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD (WIKIPEDIA IT). THERE ARE ALREADY 40 MILLION CHRISTIANS THERE. FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, CHRISTIANITY HAS ALREADY REACHED CRITICAL MASS IN CHINA, JESUS HAS WON IN CHINA. ALL PEOPLE OPPRESSED BY TYRANNY EMBRACE CHRISTIANITY, IT BROUGHT DOWN ROME AND RUSSIA.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218639Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:35:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218639skt, Dallas, TXAs a Chinese, I'm happy to inform y'all that thousands and thousands of people convert to Christian everyday. The love and strength of Christianity permeate tremendously over China in the past 15 years or so. Do you know that the print shops in China printing Bible now? There are Barn and Noble type of Christian bookstore now spreading? Amazing things are happening in China! TV shows talks about love which Jesus commands and Confucius teaches us to have in our lives. It is encouraging to hear that Chinese people in China are searching spiritually. Once they do (as everyone should do), the true God prevails and people are blessed!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218680Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:01:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218680John Doe, Seattle, Wa.I have been to Beijing, several times. There is a huge Catholic church about 4 blocks from the Hotel I stay in. Religion, and everything else, in China, is getting more free everyday.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218684Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:06:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218684Jera Smiles, Mead, OKOne can not divorce philosophy from action. Expression in all areas of personal life rather than repression is vital. The true purpose of anyone's life, regardless if one lives in China, the Middle East, or North/South America, is to express themselves using those characteristics that compose their personal reality. Whatever one believes to be true will be true for you. Whatever one admires most, that you will become. So I suggest that whatever belief or idea that you cherish and are devoted to above all others, to become that ideal "you" must become it in all thought, feeling, and action for it to truly manifest in your own life. The universe is afterall an idea construction, and you and your life is the construction of your own creative ideas, feelings, and actions. May I suggest then, that each of you love yourself enough to become your ideals. Express all of your emotions. For each segment of life "is" motivated by value fulfillment and is therefore attempting to use and develop all of its abilities and potentials, and to express itself in as many probable ways as possible in a cooperative manner. All LIFE is embarked upon a creative adventure and all ideas, be they religious, political, social, scientific, or economic are first and foremost creative ideas that sprang forth out of the spirit and minds of men. It is we who choose to use or misuse, direct or misdirect these ideas not God or if you prefer, The Prime Energy Gestalt from which we and all that is sprang forth into life and song. By all means, if you do nothing else, at least seek to enjoy yourself as you fully express your ideas. For pleasure is indeed a virture. It would also behoove you to accept full responsibility for your own ideas, thoughts, and actions, for it is you who have been given the gift of creativity and the right to choose. God can guide you but HE/SHE/IT can not pre-empt or nullify "your" choices. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218693Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:13:26 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218693Josh, WIWell, call me a centrist, but i advocate the middle ground. If china procedes to become a more religious country, that's fine. If they stay not-espescially-spiritual, that's fine too. It's not religion that's the problem, it's extremism. The chinese government is wrong to deny people the right to choose their own life philosophy, and if one religion takes over in China and starts restricting those who don't follow it, then that religion will be just as bad. I'm an atheist, with plenty of reasons to dislike religion in general and christianity in particular (it's the one that i've had the most run-ins with) but I still understand that religion doesn't make people bigoted or pushy; people simply are. The most religion ever does is give them a nice package to fit bigotry into. And, to be fair, I should mention that religion can also bring out the best in people.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218845Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:37:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218845Daniel M San Diego CAJesus came for one reason. To die for us so that we may have a greater life as it was first intended. That's great that China is becoming more interested in Christianity it's not a religion: It's a personal intimate realtionship with God. God never spoke or preached or taught about relationship: he taught about good morals, living a clean life, doing the right thing, but most of all to love everyone even our own enemies. He even said: To go and preach to all the nations about the gospel. The time is coming and we have to turn to where what He (God) had and intended for us!!! May God Bless China and all of our nations!!! http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218861Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:47:06 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218861PF, Pella, IowaLucia, please understand China is already incredibly sexist. Since the government instsituted their only one child per family policy, millions and millions of baby girls have been aborted because the parents only want a son. Jesus, on the other hand, elevated the status of women as no one ever had by including them among his disciples. Further, he condemned the misogynistic patterns of his culture by promoting rights for women in divorce and situations of moral lapses. The people today who claim to be Christians and would devalue women really don't understand the context in which Jesus lived. Jesus's teachings would be a huge improvement for women in today's China. He esteemed women highly.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#218909Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:08:34 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:218909Benjamin O., Whittier, NCI find the kind of ethnocentric attitudes expressed here a bit disburbing. Christianity is far from being the panacea that some here have made it out to be. Let us not forget that for all the good aspects it has (increasingly obscured by dogma though they are), Christianity--like most organized religions--has as much capacity for brutality and ugliness as it has for good. Spirituality is a healthy thing for human beings as many studies can attest to and people seek spiritual fulfillment in many places. Some people may find a sense of spiritual well-being singing in a church choir while others might feel like Ralph Waldo Emerson who once wrote, "I like the silent church before the service begins, better than any preaching." Some may find quiet meditation to better serve them in their search for the divine than listening to loud, Christian contemporary music. In the end I think we're all searching for the same thing. Just because something doesn't work for you doesn't make it worthless. For, after all, it is in spirituality that the true worth of a religion lies. Religions are the codified systems of spiritual belief that people follow either in a communal or solitary fashion as the code dictates. Unfortunately, though, many religions get bogged down in dogma and arguements about scripture and the focus thus gets taken away from the truer purpose of providing spiritual well-being for followers. Having reduced religion to its essential nature as a conveyer of spiritual well-being then it really becomes irrelevant which religion it is that is being practiced so long as the peace and spiritual well-being it provides are not diminished. This being said, I have no objections to the Chinese people's search for spirituality in sources other than Christianity--though I am always wary of religion because of the kind of fanaticism it can be consumed by--drowning out the spiritual and replacing it with the kind of bloody frenzy that sacked Jerusalem in 1099 and destroyed the WTC in 2001. I hope the Chinese will be spared that kind of spiritually-hollow dogmatic madness. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#219065Fri, 08 Jun 2007 23:52:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:219065Linda, San Diego In response to: Aracely Marin, Medford, Oregon. "if you rely on something else in this earth, it will also fail you." Isn't God "something else in this earth" besides human since he is considered to be omnipotent? "What people need to acknowledge is that they need to rely on Christ, who is the ultimate source of strength. With His help, we will be able to face anything in this world." What you need to realize is that God is not the solution to everything in this world, apparently suffering will never end no matter how religious you are if you are one who's suffering. For the Chinese, they rely heavily on their family, and that's the main characteristic of Confucianism or Chinese tradition and hence why many of them are looking back at their own traditions to find answers. To most of them, a major source of strength is their family. Why out of all the religions in this world is Christianity the ultimate source of strength? The Chinese lived just fine without Christianity. Yes there is injustice, there is suffering still, and there can be a lot more improvements. However, did Christianity prevent America from the civil rights movements? Did it prevent 9-1-1? I have no doubt that Christianity provides social support and comfort and is the ultimate source of strength for many, but it is not the ONLY or ULTIMATE source for everyone else in the world, especially China. Japan is doing just fine with only 1% of their population being Christian. So obviously it's not for everyone...http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#219194Sat, 09 Jun 2007 02:43:45 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:219194Chris, Beijing, ChinaIs it any surprise that religion would have a resurgance in times of uncertainty? This is not a new phenomenom in China. Over the past 12 years, there has been a major increase in the number of religious practitioners in China. This happens to coincide with the dismantaling of China's social safety net known as the Iron Rice Bowl, not any kind of shift in government policy towards religion! Health care, retirement and education have been left to the individual to provide for themselves and their families. With the rapid economic advances and the increasing gap between rich and poor, the future is more uncertian for the Chinese than ever before since economic reforms began. People, not only the Chinese will always seek religion when their future is on unstable ground. People in the west, including many of the posters to this article are practising orientalism by placing their preconcieved notions of Chinese society and culture on this supposedly new phenomenom!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#219252Sat, 09 Jun 2007 03:59:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:219252Sharon, Redands, CAAmerica is a perfect example of how bad any country can become if only one religion is used by that government. I am sickened by "Christians" using MY faith to justify greed, war, poverty, environmental and many other horific abuses. My bible speaks charity, forgiveness and helping each other. China is still run by Communists. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#219411Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:13:42 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:219411ron gillis, tianshui, gansu province, chinasorry indy girl, but i attend a chinese christian curch where there are families with children every sunday. its a 140 year old church in tianshui, in gansu province. it was destroyed during the cultural revolution but was rebuilt with government reparations money. i have been in a lot of american churches but never in one where there was sobbing throughout the congregation during communion. i have seen a few "house churches," not all but a few where people were getting a lot on money from the states for runing bible stidies for a half dozen people. ive considered doing it myself but im afraid that when i come face with the old jewish guy with the long beard in the sky he'd be really angry.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#219460Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:16:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:219460Olive JacksonI was given Kentucky Fried Chicken discount tickets at the hotel I stayed at in Shanghai. I thought if you could hand it to the cashier you wouldn't have to say anything ("make mine extra crispy" isn't in the Chinese phrase book.) I had to use the tickets but as a result had to postpone my visit to the Jade Buddha Temple. The old saying "You can trust the proprietor of a KFC to give you a good quality chicken meal" does not apply here. There was arsenic in the chicken breading and I spent the rest of the day in bed. You really shouldn't trust anyone these days...http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#219821Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:48:40 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:219821Frank Parrish, Sr.Your article is refreshing and inspires thought. The very fact of so many people reading is awakening to thinking people. Taking the time to enrich the mind instead of playing games and being entrenched in false TV lifestyles, rewards the soul. The reading person is a thinking person who without fiction understands life with meaning.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/06/07/217477.aspx#220306Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:11:44 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:220306ED ColmanMy family and I lived in China for 6 years and the oppression of religion was and is very real. The underground church of Christianity is exploding. E.C.