Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Reader — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:20:02 GMT

As a Han Chinese, I believe this is a quite unbiased article. Although it is still an open question what had happened on Sunday (Jul.5), there are quite a lot photos leaking on internet which are showing lots of Han Chinese were intentionally killed (majorly head wounded) every where in URUMQI, China. People can also check the video released by Korean news agency on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axP7u_Txk10

In the video a lot of Uighurs burn cars and shops and beat Han Chinese. And Han Chinese died everywhere in the street. I have some Uighur fiends, and they are very nice. However, I do believe some Uighur extremist caused this riots on Sunday (Jul.5) and should be punished for the killings.

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

A. Smith, Bowie, MD — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:26:59 GMT

I think that it is interesting that, with the admitted absence of any dependable information, the tone of media coverage in the US tends to be sympathetic to the Uighur population and critical of the Chinese government. I suppose one's views of Islamic-non-Islamic conflict depends upon the location of the disturbances and who the non-Islamic people are.

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Lissa Marie, Brookings, OR 97415 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:58:41 GMT

How very tragic...It seems to me religion is the root of all evil...More people have been killed in the name of someones God than all the Worlds wars combined...All that seperates these people are their beliefs...Inside we are all the same...I sincerely belive that realizing this fact is the only thing that will save humanity...

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Dave, Chicago, Illinois — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:43:06 GMT

I'm so glad I live in the great U.S.A. Can't we all just get along.

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

A Han Chinese — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:07:47 GMT

Finally, some objective reporting. At least in appearance. Good.

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

ailber, boston, MA — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:18:43 GMT

The correct terms would be Han Chinese and Uighur Chinese, because the term Chinese is a modern term for the entire citizens of a modern country, called China. Unless if you have an intention to break China into pieces.

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Victor — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:22:32 GMT

unarmed demonstrators could not cause such massive damage nor injuries.

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Cindy, Beijing, China — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:14:22 GMT

We need the truth

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

thruth — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:00:22 GMT

The flow of the population in recnet years are BOTH WAYS. There are many Chinese muslims making living in far east of China, as far as China's east coast. So,it's not the Chinese had invaded Xinjiang, it's the flow of both ways that took place as part of China's free market economy. Same is true with Tibet. Many Tibetians are making living in other Chinese provinces, particularly the southwest of China. How about Europeans invaded the land of Native Americans?

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

shaw,florida — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:31:00 GMT

I think it's not an simple ethnic conflict,but a horrible affair that terrorists killed innocent people,Han Chinese and Uighurs both.

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Mike, Poquoson, Virginia — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:03:17 GMT

This could be the beginning of a good thing, persay, to the realization that culture diversication is an Earthly tribute, solely dependent upon the cause and effect, depending on the on the effect of the cause. Plainly speaking, the level of humans in mass reaction to a given cause(rioting) remains fluxuant on the effect(change). Cause(rioting) for change is a demand for effect(change),a never-ending human social trait. With cause, there will forever be resistance to effect. To resist change is to resist cause, the cycle is inevitable and definitive as the sunrise and moonset. If there are other beings on other planets in other worlds, the cycle is there as well. All life must change and without it there is no progress of evolution. Without evelotion we would remain simple and stale. When dire situations require a response, effect answers by cause. When tension builds for effect, cause occurs from the masses. Once many years ago a friend of mine and I were hunting wild boar in the countryside of Northen Germany when we came upon two very large wild boars fighting over a rabbit one of them obviously had just scored for a snack. They were both bleeding profusely from an equal amount of stab wounds inflicted via each others' extremely sharp tusk. They stopped fighting when the more aggressive one seemed relentless. The one that seemed to potect the rabbit saw there was no reversal of the other one's cause, there fore he allowed effect to occur, and he let the other join in on the feast, undisturbed. Change for the better of the entire species was evident in that two animals survived both the attacks and the death from starvation. The posibility of survival of the boar species was doubled. In evolutional theory, all change is positive because the change is brought about when cause is confronted with a negative. There is no negative change because a negative cause plus a negative effect is a positive evolutionary moment in time. The Uighurs are the cause for effect.

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Mehmet A — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:20:58 GMT

That woman is Tajik, not Uighur. You should change it, because most people know nothing about Uighurs as it is, and you are not helping them see how Uighurs look.

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Hon. Donald A. Armstrong — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:44:02 GMT

I am sorry but I have missed why are the Chinese rioting and I am sorry if it's in your correspondent and I missed it. But can you please tell me why the Chinese your rioting. Thank you for your time and understanding. Frm. Colorado State Representative Don Armstrong

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Marvel — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:46:25 GMT

Why doesn't Obama take a strong stand against China's savage repression as it did against Iran. Why isn't the news coverage of China's ethnic struggle continuous and brought to you by twitter, and facebook, and youtube? why are Republican's silent on China's destablization unrest as opposed to Iran's unrest? Why, Why, Why?

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Gorden Lin — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:19:48 GMT

this is the only report that I saw so far which is a little bit in the middle point of view, all western media coverage give critisize on Chinese government which is not neutrual in comments and misleading.

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Gabe, Boston, MA — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:26:22 GMT

Since the Chinese government (mostly Han people) do not give a breakdown of the victims, it is obvious that more Uighurs have been victimized than Han. If more Han people were hurt, they would have used that for their nationalistic, xenophobic propaganda. China starts to look more and more as a fascist state, not a communist one. The collusion of overwhelming and dictatorial nationalism with a state controlled capitalism is the hallmark of fascism.

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Jorge — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:00:49 GMT

And when, may I ask, is anybody in the administration is going to don the toga that we use to criticize Iran for conducting elections that look so much like ours and dare to criticize China and see what happens. It would the great depression al over, but with miseries to spare. I don't know what the etiquette is for criticizing our bosses, but could we say: No mas? and still remain friends? I think..... not. The monkey knows what tree to climb and that Chinese tree is off limits. We can choose the Iranian, the Cuban, the Norht Korean, or Africa, but the Jewish tree or the Chinese are a no no. We are as close to political slavery as only America could can. No other country allows foreign countries to take over their foreign and domestic affairs like ours and as the facts corroborated, we are proud and we love it. As things stand and even when China and Israel commit crimes and human rights abuses with put our self righteousness in hybernation, waiting for one of theose "rogue" nations, "evil doers" that try to defend their governments, and we come out of hybernation and demand them to stop or all the war options are on the table. Translation? Nukes galore. Did naybody said: Hypocrisy?

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Ray Manhattan, Kansas — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:11:14 GMT

The "big picture" here is that atheist, and materialist, Communist China has a province with lots of oil and minerals. The people that live there are mostly Turkic Muslims. For a long time now, the government in Peking (I still like that spelling)have been flooding the place with Han Chinese on purpose, so they can run everything. This is the way the Han Chinese are, even the non-Communists. On that note, does anyone remember the long war between the Communist Chinese and the Muslims in Malaya betweeen 1948 and 1960? If not, you need to crack a history book and study up on it.

Keep in mind that the Han Chinese (long before Mao) have always regarded themselves as superior to any other ethnic group in China. Consequently, the Uighurs are fighting for their culture, and above all their religion of Islam. More power to their cause!

Unfortunately, the Han Chinese security forces will no doubt crush this rebellion for the time being. However, in the end, the Uighur Resistance will make a comeback and defeat the Han Chinese after a very long war. Of course the Han Chinese propaganda machine will tell the world that the whole Uighur area has belonged to China for centuries. The question that should be asked is: How many Han Chinese have ever lived in that area? I'm talking about the number of Han Chinese living there BEFORE the Maoist a--holes in Peking repopulated the area with Han Chinese.

In any event, this war between the Han Chinese and the Uighurs, is part of a much bigger war between Muslims and non-Muslims. If anyone reads history, it is a struggle to maintain an Islamic identity among Muslim peoples of diverse ethnic origins. Don't forget that the world of Islam extends from Morocco to Indonesia almost without interruption. With that said, the Han Chinese will no doubt continue to exploit the Uighur region so they can have enough oil for their cars and other luxuries back home in Peking and Shanghai. Screw the Han Chinese and their stinking Marxist and greedy atheist culture!

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Jason, Tampa Bay, FL — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:40:37 GMT

They eventually need to be as open with the U.S. as possible. They sometimes forget they rely on us for things occasionally. A good example would be as parts suppliers for their new homegrown regional jet. GE, Honeywell, and Rockwell give support to the project. They dont want to alienate us.

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

han chinese — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:42:13 GMT

this is a genocide to uighur in china.

about 800 uighurs were killed.

suport uighurs!

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

Chen, Washington DC — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:48:37 GMT

Facts speak louder than words – at least I hope. If we can find out the facts and all the facts, we may be able to piece together what happened on Sunday in Urumqi. There are some facts that so far we can be more or less certain of.
(1) There were many Han Chinese killed on Sunday (according to the New York Times today's article "Poor Imigrant Describe Grief From China's Strife" reports that a father who reviewed the picture more than 100 dead body in search for his son's body said the majority of the bodies were Han). Then there is a question: if the deaths were mainly caused by police and security forces openning fire on the Uighur as some people claim, who killed so many Han people? The security force, the police?
(2) The wounds. It seems that most of the bodies of the dead Han have wounds from knives and other cool weapons, many have their head cut off. If they were killed by the police or security force, the bodies should have gun wounds, not heads cut off by knifes or so called “head wounds.”. It is also curious that this "cutting head off" technique bears some resemblance of what we have seen recent years in the middle east.
(3) The whole turmoil started with the alleged "rape" accusation in Guangdong thousands miles away. The Uighur exile groups claims that the protest started because the government did not do investigation. However, the Uighur groups seem to have accepted the report by the official Chinese state media that the "rape" rumor sent by a Han factory worker was false. It is interesting. If the government did not investigate, where did the determination of "false rumor" come from? Also, since the exile group obviously do not trust the Chinese state media propaganda, why did they take this "false accusation" part of the propaganda so easly, on its face value, without questioning? It seems people are eager to accept those parts of the propaganda that benefit their cause but reject the other parts that are contrary to their side of stories.
(4) I just learned on the radio that the Uighur exile leader Rebiya Kadeer has an office a stone throw a way from the White House in Washington DC. Office spaces are pricy in Washington, especially in that part of town so close to the power center. Rebiya Kadeer acknowledged (according to the today NY times article “exile in the U. S. Becomes Fact of Qihur”) that she and the two other major Uighur exile groups have been accepting money from the “national endowment of democracy.” A quick internet check reveals that that this “independent, nonprofit” organization are founded by the US congress. So, is this fair to conclude that the exile Uighur leader and the two largest exile organizations are, at least partially, founded by the US government?

Chinese open up – slightly – over Uighur riots

PC, Brooklyn, NY — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:50:58 GMT

I think there are failures of the Chinese government because of the affirmative action policies towards Uyghurs. While some of the affirmative actions like like lowering standards for college entrances and filling Uyghur quotas for jobs is more or less a good thing, China have some dumb affirmative action policies where Uyghurs gets less punishment for crimes compared to Hans. It is not uncommon for some Uyghur to rob someone and even when the person was found guilty, that person will probably be let go with a slap on the wrist. It also applies to Uyghurs carrying knives in the street whereas Hans are not allowed to carry knives in the street.