http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspxBy Richard Engel, Middle East bureau chief  Baghdad's dwindling press corps learned today that two of our own were brutally murdered, apparently for doing nothing more than their jobs.  ABC News announced that its Baghdad-based cameramanen-USCommunityServer 2.0 (Build: 60608.1)http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196094Fri, 18 May 2007 16:43:13 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196094FactoidHmmm... maybe that means that they don't want us meddling in their back yard?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196174Fri, 18 May 2007 16:55:24 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196174Allistar Brown, U.K.Wasn't it the CIA that bragged that they had 80% of the foreign reporters "in their pocket"? It's no wonder you poor guys are targets. Also- since propaganda and interpretations are part of the war, the media is understandably a target. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196181Fri, 18 May 2007 16:56:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196181What's the Truth?that's what the media gets for being so biased all these years. what did you expect? http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196361Fri, 18 May 2007 17:23:32 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196361D.M.Richard please get out of there!!!It's not worth it anymore.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196381Fri, 18 May 2007 17:26:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196381huh, go figurewell... we've sort of been screwing them over for a long time now, so it's understandable that they don't want westerners there, reporters included. what else can i say?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196393Fri, 18 May 2007 17:28:53 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196393Mike, Phoenix, AZbasically, you fools at MSNBC got these guys killed. isn't that what you're really saying?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196413Fri, 18 May 2007 17:32:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196413Chris Eldridge, Harrisburg PAWhere is John McCain when you need him to show us how safe it is? Yo John... I think there are some more persian rugs on sale. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196463Fri, 18 May 2007 17:41:53 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196463Carlos, NevadaAs an American, I'm pro-U.S., pro-Western, pro-Democracy, and pro-Christian. But even for me, our (America's) international press crews have been too one-sided. Right now, the media is full of anti-muslim hatred and biggotry and I know that the arab/muslim countries see this and despair. Our press has instilled a lot of hateful propaganda in the collective american mind for no good reason. This enabled the Iraq invasion (a disaster!) and may even be setting the stage for WW3. To be honest, and I know this may sound severe, but I think I'd rather see one of you journalists get killed over there than one of our soldiers. The power of the media has been underappreciated, and when it is used as a tool to go to war (rather than disclose the truth and bring peace), via hateful propaganda, it's a shame. There are 300 million arabs who hate the American press. And there are 300 million american's who no longer know what to believe. What's one more journalist?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196675Fri, 18 May 2007 18:29:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196675Akber A. Kassam, New-York City, New York.I strongly feel that American and Western media is one sided. And they are hatred towards Muslims. This policy must be changed, otherwise people will not trust media at all.!!!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196678Fri, 18 May 2007 18:31:26 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196678Fed UPJohn McCain had something done to his head while he was a POW..The man have lost grips with reality. Safe....give me a break..and he wants to be the commander and chief? Ediot!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196696Fri, 18 May 2007 18:37:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196696John samuelFirst of all, you're not supposed to be there. And whatever you westerners write about other countries or people is always a lier. You westerners distroy that country and its people, the killing that happen there is you. you never show the rape your military is perpetrating every day since America distroy that country. What a disaster for a so called free country as America that is spreading their dirty mentality. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196731Fri, 18 May 2007 18:52:02 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196731Mike DenverWho cares! These guys are doing this crap for publicity and NOT the story! They want awards and the notoriety and that is it! Our soldiers have to bend over backwards to protect these clowns and no one seems to care when a soldier dies BUT when a lousy reporter gets capped than the world stands still!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196753Fri, 18 May 2007 19:00:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196753D, DCThe insurgents in Iraq did not attack these guys because they are the media, but because they are associated with the US. They kill anyone who is associated with the US forces in Iraq. In their minds the media, irregardless of what country they come from are targets. Also, remember, they bomb innocent Iraqis shopping at a market.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196763Fri, 18 May 2007 19:05:35 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196763Mel You have a lot of nerve to say that these brutal acts are justified. Regardless of whether you are western or middle eastern a life is a life. No one deserves to die like that. The military and the media are cutting peoples heads off, drilling holes in men's chests, among other inhuman acts. If arabs/muslims want to be respected then act civilized. Use your voice and the power of written word to change the worlds perception of you. Not all muslims are evil but the good ones aren't standing up to show that their culture is civilized, humane, and compassionate. You need to fight back and stop blaming everything on America. They flew planes into the WTC and murdered 3000 people in the name of Allah. Don't blame the victim here.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196765Fri, 18 May 2007 19:06:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196765Moment of Clarity. Think About It, AmericaThe word "media" is plural. The medium is; the media are. Just dropping some knowledge.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196769Fri, 18 May 2007 19:09:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196769Mark, NY, NYIs anyone really safe there? I mean journalists get no dispensation. It's arguably the worst place do anything, there, and of course Afghanistan.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196774Fri, 18 May 2007 19:12:00 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196774Betty NesterI don't believe there should have ever been news media on the battlefield to begin with! ...some things we don't need to know or have aired. Many times, news broadcasted (like bad treatment of prisoners) only places our servicepeople in more danger. My son-in-law is currently in Afghanistan and Lord willing, will soon be home! I've come to the point where I try not to watch much news...I'm tired of all of the Bush-bashing! Seems to me the only items on the agendas of the new Dcmocrats if fighting with the Republicans---do they really care about our people overseas? ....radical idiots!!!!! Betty Nesterhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196781Fri, 18 May 2007 19:16:41 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196781Louise Jacobsen, Boise, IdahoWhile my heart aches for everyone caught up in the Iraq occupation -- the Iraqis first, our soldiers, the journalists....when I see documentaries like "The Ground Truth," I wonder if the incomplete reporting we've been given isn't more damaging than no reporting at all. If the media would cover the brainwashing of our troops to hate the Iraqi people, the true scope of the slaughter of Iraqi civilians, the impossible situation and lack of a clear mission our soldiers are faced with, their demoralization and their problems reintegrating into civilian life after being turned into violent, hate-filled killing machines by the military, then your efforts to report from Iraq and the sacrifices you are making to do so might be worthwhile.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196784Fri, 18 May 2007 19:18:42 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196784Dominic Bolli, Vero Beach,FLJohn Samuel....you are right !!!! "we westerners should stay home. The thousands of American GI's buried in Africa, Normandy and elsewhere trying to protect people wasted their lives. We should have let Germany take over Europe. As it turned out, we could have protected our hemisphere if anyone tried to invade. Now we have mis-informed folks like you telling us WE"RE the problem. I say we should pull out and let the Iraqi's fight the civil war they have earned. Of course Turkey already said they will jump in to protect THEIR interests and Russia said the same and Iran also. If you really want a mess over there then let the US pull out. Of course this PRO US comment will be edited by the pro left press.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196787Fri, 18 May 2007 19:19:35 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196787Stevie Salt Lake City UtahHas there ever been a war that was safe for the journalists? I do think that the journalists in the Middle East are at a higher risk, because they do not know who the enemy is. It would appear to me that the insurgents desires to have only their version of the events published. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196790Fri, 18 May 2007 19:20:42 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196790Julie, TexasUnderstand this. The fanatics who killed those reporters have no interest in "showing or telling their side of things." They hate America, Americans, and ANYTHING associated with America. I had to laugh at the posts that said the American media is against Muslims and and Islam. In this country the "American" media is SOOO un-American and anti-Christian that every day I feel my country and religion is under attack. It is perfectly ok to question the existence of Jesus and attack anything Christian (Xmas anyone???)but let someone mention the name of Mohammed (sp?),the Muslims, or the Islam in ANYTHING but a flattering light and they are immediately attacked by our media as bigots. Sadly, our foolish media, government, AND obviously many of our countrymen and women don't get it. We are their (Islamic crazies) enemy and they are at war with us. They have every intention of destroying us and everything we believe in. I understand them perfectly!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196791Fri, 18 May 2007 19:23:52 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196791D BolliJohn Samuel, upon reading your comments furthur, I feel it is appropriate to let you know what kind people we are in the U.S. AS in any country, there are good and bad people. Try not to judge the entire country by just a few as we will try not to judge the stinking sewer you are from by you. You,my friend are an evil person. Are you in flight school as we speak?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196808Fri, 18 May 2007 20:55:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196808george cindrichDominic Bolli, Vero Beach,FL Dominic,never,on your best day,ever associate this Bushdangle with any other war. May God take in the troops who died over there and protect the ones there now,but this fiasco is all on George Bush. The Bush name and FDR are light years apart by every definition of intelligence. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196824Fri, 18 May 2007 21:33:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196824Scott SacramentoIt's not just America they hate...it's America's way of life, and anyone or anything that is connected to it, supports it, or participates in it must (from their perspective) be destroyed. They want the entire world to live how they live. They want the entire world to believe as they believe. They want all of this and will stop at absolutely nothing to attain it. It isn't America, it's what America stands for that they hate, that they want to subvert, that they want to destroy. There have been attacks in Great Britain and Europe as well, because, to a degree, they have the same beliefs, morals and life styles that America does. To these people even a journalist represents a large part of what they feel is wrong with the world. And they will do everything they can to destroy anything they feel represents that, whether it be soldiers, diplomats, journalists, civilians, children, women and anyone that associates with any of them. And let me tell you something, there is nothing you can ever do to change the way these people think, to them it isn't just a preference, it is a reality that 'will' be realized...one way or another. No, you will never be able to change their minds, they would rather die.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196846Fri, 18 May 2007 22:13:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196846Freida Speak-MooreNo, it's not safe. Not for soldiers, civilians, journalists, women, children, or men. Not for Sunni's Shiites, Christians or Kurds. Iraq is death. I think everyone should be evacuated, and make the entire country a do-over.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196849Fri, 18 May 2007 22:19:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196849Jim, Denver, COWhat's with Iraqi's and power drills? Whack-jobs!...Why would a reporter even want to talk to one of these kooks? - Do barbarians make good interviwees? Let them go back to eating lamb and fig sandwiches in a mud hut, unimpeeded by the 'western media', clearly a win-win in my eyes.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196873Fri, 18 May 2007 23:15:51 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196873Joe M. eureka californiaWhat needs to happen is America needs to say to the world that we made a mistake and underestimated what was going to happen. Then ask the world to form a huge coalition force of at least 500,000 more troops mostly americans.... our fault!, and literally Go from one end of Iraq to the other and spare no expense and deal harshly with any man or woman yelling al'a aq'bar with a bad look on their face and finish this job. I hate to say it, but America needs to clamp down hard on that situation or we will pay for this for years to come! These people have years of hate built up and we have bombed or destroyed anything they have had to make it beneficial for Haliburton and Exon's profit margin, that they have nothing to lose by even dieing. This is sad what americans have done for OIL and we are going to pay and are already paying for that. How does the midwest like seeing their Best Young Boys Killed in the name of this Badly mismanaged situation. And How do they Like paying more for the Fuel in the Hursts their sons ride in to their funerals. BUSH & CHENEY have done this country Wrong, and anyone who still supports them will carry it to their grave! THANK YOU for your support guys! Your pride has killed many thousands of people! http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196874Fri, 18 May 2007 23:16:06 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196874David, Los Angeles, CAIt always amazes me how much intolerance and downright stupidity people are willing to reveal about themselves on these websites, but I have to say a lamb and fig sandwich on pita bread sounds really good!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196897Sat, 19 May 2007 00:00:36 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196897Larry Nelson, Sst. Petersbug,FloridaFor the sake of all the good guys. Nothing should be reported to the rest of the world til it's over.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196901Sat, 19 May 2007 00:01:10 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196901elizabeth riggsThe very title of this article is baffling to me. "Is Reporting in Iraq Still Possible?" You have to ASK??!! If you live and work in a place where there is a CHANCE of having holes drilled into your chest....it's gotta be a no-brainer....get home! And by the way: Certainly Islamic extremists have good reasons for their anger at us westerners. But when people start using merciless torture, they lose my sympathy--completely--no matter what their complaints, no matter which side of the fight they're on. Those who torture--whether Islamic or American--are doing it because they LIKE it. These extremists have not evolved beyond their barbarism. Why can't we just say it?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196906Sat, 19 May 2007 00:03:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196906Kristen Johanson, Seattle, WashingtonThe U.S. has made Iraq into another Killing Fields. It's a shame that the U.S., the U.K., and Israel -- the true Axis of Evil, are getting away with war crimes/crimes against humanity/genocide of Iraqis.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196908Sat, 19 May 2007 00:08:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196908Ron, Chehalis,Wa.It's sad to see all the killing in Iraq. If George Bush didn't make the stupid mistake of sending our troops to war, for no good reason, none of our troops would have to die or reporters. Bush has done nothing good since he cheated to become President and he will go down in history as the worst President, this country has ever had.Why Congress doesn't impeach him, we'll never know. We sure can't wait till his term is up. He's such a loser.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196912Sat, 19 May 2007 00:11:41 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196912OLE, HONOLULU, HAWAIIJULIE FROM TEXAS - READ A BOOK "THE ARAB MIND"; WE WENT THERE, BOMBED AND KILLED INNOCENTS BASED ON LIES. MR.BUSH AND MR. CHANEY HAVE NEVER BEEN TO WAR, THEY WERE COWARDS DURING THE VIETNAM WAR WITH DEFERRALS AND DADDY'S PROTECTION; THEY DON'T GIVE A DAMN FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE SACRIFICING THEIR LIVES BASED ON LIES, CORRUPTION AND DECEIT. YOU'LL NEVER GET THE OIL FROM THE COUNTRY WITH THE LARGEST UNTOUCHED OIL RESERVE FOR YOUR TEXAS OIL BILLIOMNAIRE SUPPORTERS. YOU WILL ANSWER TO GOD FOR THIS ONE.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196916Sat, 19 May 2007 00:16:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196916Ken Schroeder Cobb CaI can't believe you idiots that think killing journalists is justified.Religous fanatics who say believe as we do or we will kill you.That is what we are dealing with make no mistake about it.Then some of you come to this country from the Middle East and want to tell us what is wrong with America you enjoy freedom of speech and religion here that does not exist in the Middle East.If it is so great where your from then get the hell out.Need directions to the airport let me know I would be happy to supply them at no expense to you.I have seen many men from the Middle East come here eat pork drink alcohol then shoot their mouth off about how screwed up America is and how smart they are.News flash being a religous fanatic who wants to convert people through terrorism doesn't make you smart it only shows what cowards you are.Oh by the way when you do die God not Allah will not be pleased with you and the reward you think your going to get will not be what you think it will be. If you do not believe me do us all a favor kill yourself and nobody else and find out.Then we won't have to listen to anymore of how you hate Americans or anymore of the propaganda which you are so free to express here.If you are in this country get out and go home to where life and the people are so wonderful. I seriously doubt anyone here will miss you.As an old American country song said "If you don't love it leave it." If you don't like my message tough I earned the right to free speech by serving 22yrs. in the military What have you done for this country? Nothing good that is for sure. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196930Sat, 19 May 2007 00:48:10 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196930Bogart, Bothell, Wash.Why is it that when the media shows the video of an insurgent missile on February 7th shooting down a CH-46 Sea King helicopter over and over again, but refused to show the funeral of Capt. Jennifer J. Harris, U.S.M.C., who was piloting the helicopter, because they decided it was less important than Anna Nichole Smith's death for days and weeks on end. Why is that? When the media starts reporting with common sense, then I will give them the same remorse for their deaths, as I do the soldiers. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#196937Sat, 19 May 2007 01:01:06 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:196937Steve, Perth, AustraliaMore journalists have been killed in Iraq, mostly by US forces, than in any other war in history. I think it is interesting that so much is made of these killings when the more than 100 others killed by US forces so far are but seldom reported.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#197635Sun, 20 May 2007 12:54:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:197635Tom, Lake of the Ozarks, MOI guess the days of Wolf B. and Anderson C. reporting from the sanctity of a hotel room/roof are long gone. Gee, now they have to go out into the cruel world like the troops do. No more creative reporting folks. And as far as feeling bad about the media people that are killed, fat chance! They chose their way of life. And after the way the media has reported (using their liberal bias), they deserve no sympathy! http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#197664Sun, 20 May 2007 13:07:19 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:197664NancyMr Engel,Thank you for your hard work and the losses it has caused you and all those caught up in this war. This blog in particular is awful! The crap said is most definately "ONE SIDED". I keep up with everything you report and thank God we have you there. However, come home. You have now become too exposed and need to take care of yourself. You've become too important to us. A part of the family. With your parting you'll be making an even greater statement. Iraq can not stand the light of day and any reporting that would shed that light. Again, thank you and please do not believe for one second the bias of this one sided conversation I've been reading from above. Let those that are so full of s--- go over to Iraq and tell the story, talk about couch quarterbacking!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#197685Sun, 20 May 2007 13:30:02 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:197685John D., New York.This is an appeal. the bickering such as this that is going on solves nothing. If you are simply mad at one cause/group/individual/action/etc. or another, do something to change the situation with an action (peaceable) not simple angry words. The people who rail against those unhappy with the us and its actions only fuel those angry people. And those who hate the western influences, culture, and people, displaying your anger will not make us go away. And when we think that closing our eyes will make things better, safer. It won't. That's what got us here in the first place. We need to stand up for what we believe in, but we also need to consider that what we believe is not the whole side of the story and even if we are right, that doesn't make the other side wrong. There is no simple answer to the problems we are facing. But railing against the opposition and closing our eyes will not solve anything.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#197704Sun, 20 May 2007 13:52:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:197704SusieThe rate of killings by illegal aliens in the USA of US citizens is higher than the killings in Iraq.Crime in our cities makes it a very dangerous situation. What we don't need now is these terrorist in the US killing, in addition to what is already going on. These people are plotting to kill all of us in the USA who do not think like them. THEY are the ones full of hate. I don't know if all Muslims are bad or not...only ones I know of have been bad, flying planes into our buildings, and others plotting world take over and more attacks! We should have become involved in Iraq years before we did. For us to knowingly allow cruelty, rapes, murder to go on like went on in Iraq is cowardly! Saddam and his thug sons were evil. We need to cut loose and finish the job and bring our soldiers home! We must secure our borders NOW, and clean our country out of terrorist living among us. Deport illegals. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#197705Sun, 20 May 2007 13:52:52 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:197705Robocoastie, Columbus, NE"Why have insurgents in Iraq murdered 102 journalists and kidnapped 48 since 2003" A: Because they hate all non Muslims and American's you idiot. This is a religious war when will you idiots get that through your head?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#197708Sun, 20 May 2007 13:54:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:197708CM from somewhere in TexasI don't recall where it says, anywhere, that everything's going to be alright. I recommend that those of you who don't know how learn how to live off the land. Civilizations rise and fall and only the supremely arrogant think that they are exempt. Some things only appear to be important. Don't believe it? When you're thirsty, how many barrels of light sweet crude would you like to drink? The truly wealthy will be the man who knows how to extract water, food and shelter from this rock that we're living on. One day we'll be fighting with rocks and sticks again and you'd better know how to sharpen one. PS....In a fight, I feel safer with Bush than Spotted Al Gore or that cartoon character Kerry. This ain't a perfect world and besides....they started it.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#197724Sun, 20 May 2007 14:18:13 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:197724Wm. Jr.What has happened to my country,the USA? I live and work in Baghdad, do we need to be here, no! A reporter dies (Sad) and I'm suppose to feel sympathy for those who have given more aid to the enemy than say Mr. Walker and Son. Kick all reporters out of Baghdad, no more inbedded reporters. What about all the soldiers kill because of reporters? who weeps for them?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#197725Sun, 20 May 2007 14:19:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:197725Wm. Jr.What has happened to my country,the USA? I live and work in Baghdad, do we need to be here, no! A reporter dies (Sad) and I'm suppose to feel sympathy for those who have given more aid to the enemy than say Mr. Walker and Son. Kick all reporters out of Baghdad, no more inbedded reporters. What about all the soldiers killed because of reporters? who weeps for them?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198063Mon, 21 May 2007 07:59:54 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198063Scott Ash, Atlanta, GAWhatever happened to "no bodies, no bylines?" In Hearst's day dead journalists would be (quietly) celebrated as sacrifices to the altar of increased newspaper sales and later Nielsen ratings. I guess this new maturity on the part of the media's showing that reporters are human after all. If only politicians would follow suit....http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198066Mon, 21 May 2007 08:11:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198066Pierre DoucetYou guys have lost your innocence and impartiality when you agreed to be "imbedded" with the armed forces. By doing so, You have chosen sides. You have become their enemy. You are not innocent, just incrediably naive. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198068Mon, 21 May 2007 08:20:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198068michael duncanu guys re talking so crab things... cos u cant even understand wats been going on there!! ur talkin 'bout journalists who got killed but the more important thing is people ..they were just living such as us but mr bitch bushs decided to fuck them all...but why ?? cos they are muslim !!also ive heard that bush is a jew therefore he attacks them like a dog!!its not just this,there are many people who manipulates bush and most of them are from israil...it not gonna stop we ll see they ll go to iran as well.. so its sounds like ww3http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198069Mon, 21 May 2007 08:20:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198069STEVIE FERRELL ROGERSVILLE TENNESSEEWE SHOULDNT BE THERE ITS THERE PROBLEM--WE ARE THERE FOR NOTHING--GETTING GI'S KILLED FOR NOTHING--CAUSE ITS STILL GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN WE LEAVEhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198077Mon, 21 May 2007 08:28:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198077Quis Quisling, Sacramento, CAPeoples, remember that our government is killing the terrorists all over the world and is winning in Iraq and Afghanistan! The government loves you and is doing everyting it can to protect you!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198078Mon, 21 May 2007 08:29:12 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198078Yoosuf, Alleppeywhat is the need of the hour is peace not hatred. no faith is against love and peace. those who instigates or impose war do not have sense or sensibility.Do we agree with any foreign troops on the streets of washingotn, Newyork or London because of the bad rulers or governments in Washington & London? let the people decide the fate of their rulers.. keep away the lucarative, poisoness arms & ammuniation business. Try to spread international brotherhood & try to remove the borders AND barricades like EU.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198079Mon, 21 May 2007 08:31:44 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198079David, las vegas, nvThe media has no place in iraq. Ya it's sad when a reporter is killed, but why is he there? They are'nt soldiers and wouldn't have the gall to shoot anyone if they had to. Stop sending them it's not like its impossible to get the news without risking lives. Besides the majority of the public doesn't seem to care anymore. This war started on good terms, it's turning into another vietnam slowly. Do everybody a favor stay out and let the soldiers do their jobs, lord knows they're the only ones still ready to.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198080Mon, 21 May 2007 08:32:36 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198080Rick tokyo JapanI travel the world in my bussnes. Our president and his greedy buddies has made me embarresed to show my U.S passport. I feel the whole world is starting to think our country is full of idiots. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198081Mon, 21 May 2007 08:35:10 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198081J. De Lorm, Fr. Can.I am one that has been saying for years that this war and even 9/11 has not had the truth come out...Someone earlier said , there should be no media reports of fighting ... isn't that what happened during WWII..the truth didn't come out till after the war.. While still in school, one of our Teachers said,"there will be wars ever 20-30 years, not for any other reason than the rich mfgers of war machines, etc. need to replenish their bank acc'ts." I read books about the gorila Afgans for years crossing over to the Russian side and slaying boarder soldiers daily (such as what they did to the 3 media persons) and when the Russians tried to fight back, the USA supplied the Afgans with training and out-dated arms....It has been written in the news of Iraq's President being a friend of the USA at one time, doing their bidding (fighting the Iranians)making deals with HH, and then breaking them in early 1990's (the first Bush in power trying to hold on to his son's oil fields) That warnings were sent and that 9/11 could and should have been stopped...that 9/11 may have been set up (as explained in an e-mail sent around)..We are sending our sons, brothers, fathers to fight for a President that lied, and still lies....missinforms everyone. The money that has been spent on this war across the ocean, could have gone to help their own people , to protect their own country 3 x's over...But then the ones that are making a financial killing would be out $ (Arms, planes, parts, boats, oil/gas increases, mfger of all kinds...)You wonder why they hate us??? Your President said:"because we are free"?? Either he thinks we were all born in a cabbage patch in the hills or that we are all deaf , blind and stupid...I wonder how many wars we would have if those in Government had to send their children first?????http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198082Mon, 21 May 2007 08:37:26 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198082jdoeA lot of you are people whom have never been to Iraq, personally I have as a soldier. And in my experience, I would ask that you not be so quick to judge how our media is one sided and spreading hate campaigns. The media in general gives all the wrong info. to people here in the states, and shouldn't really even be allowed to be over there. For their own safety and for others. All people in Iraq are targets, soldiers, IP's, Iraqi soldiers, reporters and crewmen, women and children, foreigners, civilians, politicians. Absolutely anyone. There are 2 different sects that perform different ritual torture killings, all for radical religous beliefs, and I can back the radical part up. I can not go into detail past that. Everyone there is a target. Ole from honolulu, you need to calm down. A lot more than digging for oil is at stake here. Oil had nothing to do with al-quaida destroying the world trade center nor Saddam torturing his people. The people there are in need of our help, while your mind gets twisted by things you may see and hear in media and from friends or some other sources, there is a need for our troops there, there are real people there with real needs. Look if any of you have serious questions about the war,Iraq, islamic beleifs, whatever I have a lot of personal experience and knowledge I would be willing to share. write me at sham-man2k33@hotmail.com And, kristn of seattle, american soldiers are confined now by many rules and regulations, which barely allow them to shoot at anyone without serious reason and has to be officially documented after the incident. More Iraqi sects and radical groups are killing other Iraqi's far more than U.S. troops in the last 2 years of this conflict, and it's all for fear and power. We are not commiting genocide nor are the troops baby killers or murderers. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198085Mon, 21 May 2007 08:56:04 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198085Ahmed Tariq Popalzai, Kabul, Afghanistan Hello every one, I am in Afghanistan & i know what’s going on in Afghanistan & some how about IRAQ. TALIBAN & AL-Qaeda are not Muslims They flight for money. So i think NATO & ISAF are doing the best in Afghanistan but i cant say anything about IRAQ. & if we want to finish terrorism we should help & support NATO & ISAF. We are already burning in terrorism & if westerns, Europeans & Americans do not fight against terror one day they will have the same problem that we are having in Afghanistan. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198088Mon, 21 May 2007 09:05:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198088JoyaSee from a history point of view whatever civilized a nation is, when this nation sends troops to a defferent nation with different religion there is only badness happening to both of them. do u want the result of americans in Iraq? yes a it is a second Vietnaam unfortunately!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198091Mon, 21 May 2007 09:14:03 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198091Dom, NJSaddam was a brutal SOB but he was the only thing holding down this sort of thing. They just couldn't wait to start killing each other. Where are all the good Muslims? I know you're out there somewhere! This is what happens when you think it's OK to teach your kids hatred like you teach them simple math eventually they'll get good at it. God Bless The USA, but we are slowly heading down the same road! http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198093Mon, 21 May 2007 09:19:33 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198093Al Warakomski Kanas City MOThe persons you cited chose to do what they did, as do you and all other reporters, so what is the bitch? My empathy and sympathy go out to the women and childern who are murdered by these so called insurgents. They are not insurgents they are murderous muslim thugs justifying their villanous ways just like muhammed did when he dreamt up the so called allah.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198094Mon, 21 May 2007 09:28:34 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198094sameer,Amman,Ammanupon what i have read about killing the journalists and the comments that have been written i found that most of the commentators were against the war but i think we still lack the real stamina to stand against this bloody war,i think we need some collective globalized action to express our resentment of this war which has killed hundreds of thousands so far with out any notification that there will be an end for this. i think people here in the middle east where i live hate your administration because of injustice that has been applied so far in dealing with our key issues,such as palestine issue the magic word to solve or change this hatred Dilemma which widely spreaded among the middle easterns lies on "JUSTICE" nothing more and nothing less http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198100Mon, 21 May 2007 10:10:30 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198100Barry Belcher Knoxville Tn How does a story about two journalists being killed become a debate on the war. As I read the comments I can't help to see why this war has divided not only this country but the whole world. People there is plenty of blame to go around, can we stop talking about who's fault it is and talk about what can be done about it. Take the same time you took to write you hate filled coments and write your Gov. Rep. and inform them you vote and your opinion counts. People in spite of what you beleive about the war we elected these people so maybe some of the blame is ours. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198104Mon, 21 May 2007 10:32:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198104cat michigan USAmy son is a Marine. he, as alot of people, believe that they are fighting so that these people (religious or not or what ever) should have the right to work, shop or even just take a walk through the park, with out the fear of being killed. Do you fear going to work every day, that you will be murdered for it. you should not, and neither should these peoples, (including our brothers and sisters in the media no matter where they come from). I am not a very religious person, but I do have beliefs and those are just that I should be able to do all of these things with out fear of death (from governement or religious orginizations) weather I feel the same way as the man next door or not. here we have the oppurtunity to be catholic living next door to baptist, next door to athiest, and yet we still can go to work with out harm. we can still walk down to the park and our children can still play together. we have that choice. we have some of our own problems and we are working those out, but we are not killing those that are different, and we do not kill those who offend of us. we try to settle it calmly first. then we use our courts, when we cannot come to a good solution amongst ourselves. and if justice is fair then it gets handled in the best for every one posible way. that is why my son is there, not because of bush or oil or politics. just plain old freedoms that we abuse every day here in america, the ones that many countries do not have. like the right to work in any environment with out fear of death. Do I think it safe for the reporters overseas,no, but then again I do not think it is safe for anyone with a different oppinion or culture and yes I would flee to america too. anywhere that I could feel my family would be safe to do the basic functions of life, like shopping at the local store. I wish you a safe return to your home, and a safe home to return to.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198109Mon, 21 May 2007 10:54:32 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198109Grey GhostAre you so blind that you can't see you have answered your own question. You stated how factions would openly want to tell their story to the world and rightfully so. Unfortunately it isn't being told and what is told are not the views of Iraqi people but of our administration bent on censuring every bit of truth at home and abroad for the crimes inflicted on humanity and the enviroment. Why are'nt you reporting on why it is that only 1 in 8 Iraqi children will live to see their 5th birthday or why is our national guard over there? What happened to our military? Not since Hitler has the world been so deceivedhttp://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198263Mon, 21 May 2007 14:11:19 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198263Russell Oxford, NJRichard, I've been watching you since you first began covering Baghdad, when you were the only American Journalist who stayed there. It's time for you to leave. Go to Amman or stay in Beirut. I know they are not exactly NYC, but at least they are safer than Baghdad. You've done enough for the US, giving us the real news, not the administration's pablum. stay safe.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198762Mon, 21 May 2007 18:46:15 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198762Pacheck,Huntington Beach,Ca.We learn once again, "you plays the game, you takes your chances." Eventually all sembalance of normalacy will be gone in the middle east. When an old man gets drilled and cut-up as some type of example for some unknown reason, what chance do you think a news reporter has. When a fully equiped american warrior in an armored vehicle gets targeted everyday and killed at their pleasure, we need to get the hell right out of there.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198779Mon, 21 May 2007 19:01:29 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198779Rikki ArcieroI wouldn't have the courage to be there day by day as you do, so that we can get updates from you first hand. I have read and understand the high personal price you have paid for this. Thank you for all you do and Godspeed, Richard Engel. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#198795Mon, 21 May 2007 19:10:07 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:198795Pacheck,Huntington Beach,Ca.We learn once again, "you plays the game, you takes your chances." Eventually all sembalance of normalacy will be gone in the middle east. When an old man gets drilled and cut-up as some type of example for some unknown reason, what chance do you think a news reporter has. When a fully equiped american warrior in an armored vehicle gets targeted everyday and killed at their pleasure, we need to get the hell right out of there.http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#199181Tue, 22 May 2007 03:03:44 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:199181Julia Cruz, Somerville, MAReading all these messages is surely disconcerting. The only real truth is that Richard Engel is an intelligent and courageous man who knows far better than most of the bloggers here what is really happening in Iraq. Richard, thank you for your honest and passionate reporting. Be safe and know your work is appreciated. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#199301Tue, 22 May 2007 08:13:48 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:199301Jayson Tannermann, Bridgeville,PAYes Americans are anti-muslim, and rightfully so. Muslims have fought hard to earn this reputation with western civilization. We will never turn our backs on Israel, no matter what the cost. The gloves will finally be removed once the psyco-devil that calls himself the leader of Iran detonates a bomb above a major U.S. city. This is not a matter of perspective that man is pure evil. But I guess I don't have much to wory about. Go on step on my soil with a gun and see what we do to you. Every gang member will stand along side every rural hunter and fire upon them. They will be driven from our country along with the Aliens that have tainted our soil. I will join the fight and gladly die for my country and the one true God, Jehovah. America's true citizens are sleeping and one day they will awaken to find the devil on their door step, and action will be taken by it's people to remove the intruders from our homes. And trust me it wont take 1000 yrs of suicide bombs and hiding in caves. We will happily fight you face to face. Bring it Allah, lets see what your insides are made of!http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#200879Wed, 23 May 2007 15:32:19 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:200879Laurel Noel, Leonardtown, Maryland, USAHow many of the people writing this anti-journalist crap are currently living, working, and putting their asses on the line in a war zone? Of course, war correspondents get personal satifaction from their work. Who would do a job like that if it was not in some way personally or professionally gratifying? On the other hand, these brave journalists are often the only source of information for many military families whose loved ones are in harms way. I, for one, am grateful for their dedication. Would you rather get your information from Tony Snow, et. al.? http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#202465Thu, 24 May 2007 14:44:34 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:202465DavidI marvel at some of the specific criticisms being directed in these posts toward “the media” covering this war. To a person, every man and woman in national TV news has to be driven, ambitious and, when it comes to competitors, even ruthless. How could it be otherwise – whom do we think is going to rise to these positions: you? Me? Aunt Sally who runs the annual bake sale down at the firehouse? We need tough, egotistical journalists who can survive the conditions. I don’t know Richard Engel personally, but he strikes me as hardworking, honest (although I’m certain he can’t say everything he knows), and extraordinarily courageous. Look how long he has lasted over there in that mess while others flee. Richard is one of the reasons why my wife and I watch NBC News – just about every time he signs off, we mutter, “hope he stays safe.” I wish he would leave there, but I also know that he likes to be in the Middle East and that there’s no one better at what he does. I don’t think he wants to cover Wall Street. I completely agree that the death of every single soldier deserves the same coverage as the death of a journalist in this war. Immediately after first reporting the death of Anna Nicole Smith, Brian Williams followed with a profile of a young American woman killed in action on the same day. The message was clear – how can we celebrate the life of an Anna Nicole, or go brain-dead over “American Idol,” while failing to reflect on the thousands of fine young people that are being killed, maimed or psychologically destroyed by this horrific, ill-conceived, endless bloody war that just grinds on and on and on? To acknowledge that decades of stupid US policy toward Arab countries in the Middle East had something to do with 9/11 is NOT to argue that the terrorists are right, nor that “we had it coming.” But we must acknowledge that Muslim rage toward us came from somewhere. We live in a world where a person can seriously say on the one hand that the Irish Republican Army’s bloody campaign against Britain was in many ways justified, and on the other hand, “death to all ragheads” because they attacked US. I have had it up to my eyebrows with the griping about “mainstream media” and how liberal the network newscasts are. Hey, here’s a news flash: NBC, CBS and ABC are owned by huge corporations, and big established corporations by nature are anything but liberal. When Ben & Jerry’s buys a network, then we should start worrying about liberal bias. After Vietnam, can anyone truly say that they wish the military could just get on with it, shielded from any news coverage?? Day-to-day mistakes and blind spots are inevitable in journalism, and in twenty years we’ll get a better account of the big picture from historians (I shudder to imagine what we will learn in the years to come). But there is no substitute for a free press in a free country – it’s a requirement for democracies even if what is reported isn’t what we’d like to hear. Richard Engel, be careful out there. http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#202528Thu, 24 May 2007 15:15:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:202528Steve Cabral, Detroit MichiganThe old saying "there is always 2 sides to the story" just isn't so anymore. Issues, surrounding this whole mess run layers deep and have unlimited paralell relationships. I can not imaging what it would be like for President Bush, to be in a position to make these final decisions regarding this war. He does have other important business decisions to make, lets not forget that. All this, second guessed by every Tom, Dick and Harry. Does anyone really think that he asked for his job focus to change so drastically on that tragic day, 9/11. I am so sick of self centered opinions. How much longer will this go on?http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#205230Sun, 27 May 2007 12:09:02 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:205230martyYou only report what the Pentagon lets you report.Why haven't we heard all reporters stand-up against the government so that we can get the truth of what is going on in Iraq. You all reporting from the inside of the big wall and make it look like you in the middle of the action... I will be waiting for Hollywood to produce a victory movie for the nation..http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/18/195950.aspx#205256Sun, 27 May 2007 14:02:38 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:205256Duncan PatrickAs an American citizen, I am ashamed of the brutal comments against the free press who are risking their lives to show, on live film coverage,what is happening in a war zone. I see a lot of blame for the violence of warring factions being pointed towards the free press. Reporters in a war zone show you how it is, without consideration of their risking their lives daily. If you think you could do better, go get yourself a plane ticket, and ask John McCain to go with you, please. He said it was safe, didn't he? Would you rather have John McCain report the news to you about the success of the Administration's war efforts? Those who argue that Bush is being battered as well as muslims, are not seeing through clear lines. I see no reports that Muslims are bad people! What I see and hear about are Radical Muslims that are mutilating bodies and killing innocen people. As for Bush bashing, I see only evidence,with my own eyes from camera footage,of what we, as a country, are going through at the present and clearly see the man responsible, on a daily basis, declaring himself to be correct in his defense of his policy decisions to put America and it's soldiers in this position. Is that bashing? Is thst what makes the press so biased, in their views? Was the press biased in the 4 year coverage of the Clinton Whitewater scandel? I have never seen a political party such as the Republican Right Wing Extremist make critisism of a sitting President and it's administration,a cruel and unusual punishment. By the way I am a moderate Republican. Remember moderates? By the way, where is that smaller government,term limitations and balanced budget promise? With the Exception of CNN, I find little or no bias in the American press and thank God for their presence everywhere.