Inside the Taliban's 'grave error'

Ken, Phoenix, AZ — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:13:37 GMT

Perhaps the US should allow Muslims to impose sharia in certain areas of Minnesota. It certainly seems to have worked well in Pakistan.

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dolla — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:18:43 GMT

there must be roads in and out of buner- why didnt the pakistani military set up an ambush? or call in an airstrike on the taliban convoy? am i missing something?

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Dave in NM — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:18:54 GMT

Wait - hyperconservative religious fanatics attempt to impose their will on the population at large - you mean this is now considered a BAD thing by Americans?

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Lee Miller, Azle, Tx — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:19:24 GMT

So a deal was made with the devil and he didn't keep his end of the bargain? I'm just shocked. Who could have imagined it would have turned out this way? It's about time people got a cold slap in the face concerning the Taliban and Al Queda and their "religious motivations" for world control. And they think they are serving God. Wait. Isn't it prophesied in the Christians bible that these people would come? And in the end they perish.

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Eric, Salinas, CA — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:42:16 GMT

Pakistan's Zardari is a fool to have let the Taliban establish Sharia Law in the Swat Valley. I hope he's learned his lesson that the religious fantatics who want sharia law can never be trusted to abide by their false agreements.

Hopefully Zardari will come to his senses and clean up the Swat Valley and reestablish secular law to protect the women from persecution by the male chauvinist pigs who cling to their korans and guns. Hmmm the Taliban sound a lot like our socially conservative evangelical lunatic fringers. Maybe we should ship them all over there where they can revel in religious tyranny.

Just Say No to Religious Law!

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John Harding — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:47:11 GMT

I have been to Pakistan, as for north as Lahore. There are some very fancy hotel-sized houses there, complete with an armed guard, also some trendy restaurants. On the other hand, most of the population lives in extreme poverty with transportation by ox carts. I have never seen worse, even in India. Considering the poverty that exists, how can the Taliban be stopped? I think it is only a matter of time until they take over. The same goes for Afghanistan, which may become Obama's Iraq. In Iraq we had to contend with a population of 25 million. In Pakistan, the population is 170,000 million. There is no way the US can help as we will be stuck in Iraq for many years to prevent a civil war, the first phase of which has already begun.

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Bob — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:00:28 GMT

Pakistan is a failing State and it will have catastrophic impact in neighboring India. Pakistan can not be saved. Thanks to the U. S. policies for decades in that part of the world.

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aamir — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:04:47 GMT

if the people didt get justice and believe me there was and is no justice at all in Pakistan then these types of reactions always came from society. and this is our right to implement our islamic law in our country and no one has the right to dictate us and vice versa.

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david,baltimore — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:05:19 GMT

It is the responsibility of the Pakistani people to bear the brunt of ensuring their own freedom.I have no problem with us assisting them;howvere I have a big problem with us fighting their war while thay sit back and wait to see the results.Freedom comes at a price and we should not be paying it.

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Douglas Miller, Detroit, Michigan — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:14:25 GMT

Who in their right mind would believe anything that the Taliban terrorists say? And who would make a deal with these deranged Jihadis? Would you buy a used car from them? This is propaganda, pure and simple. Unless the Taliban are decisively defeated they will escalate the violence, and overthrow the Pakistani government. This would be an immense tragedy for the people of Pakistan. And if their nuclear weapons fell into the hands of these psychopaths, it would pose a clear danger to the civilized world. They must be defeated

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Ben Canada — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:18:21 GMT

Hey Dave in NM,
Funny comparison but Silly to compare anti-abortion, anti-stem cell research and pro prayer in school with stoning people, cutting off of hands and feet, no education for girls and killing of girls and women who act in ways men don't agree with. Oh, and when given the chance the killing of infidels, i.e. Jews, christians, Hindus and Athiests.

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dennis waite , buffalo ,NY — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:20:49 GMT

how is the taliban and Al Queda getting their hands on large amounts of US cash ??
is this just another CIA attempt at falase flag operation: the Nato-trucks and weapons are being stolen at will the band of 80-144 men are ruleing the whole country ....9/11 was an inside job...??

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Jay, Charlotte, NC — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:21:07 GMT

I agree Lee and I do hope they perish or at least their movement does. All through the Bush administration we were told how afraid we should be of Iraq, the terrorism threat, etc., and for the most part I think it was mainly political rhetoric designed to keep in power. However, this is a very real threat with little doubt as to how serious it is. The thought of the Taliban gaining control of a nuclear state is very alarming. I cannot imagine it getting that far, but it certainly bears watching. I imagine India is watching this very closely as well.

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Irving, Bklyn, NY — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:45:13 GMT

The fear of the taliban is their close connection to Al Queda and their quest to rule Pakistan and use the atomic bombs as their persuasive lever in the region. I wonder if the US could convince or bribe Pakistan to destroy their atom bombs so that goal can be erased? Pakistan's army doesn't seem angry enough to go after the taliban so it's a matter of time till they rule Pakistan. Perhaps 2 to 3 years.

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Dave — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:52:28 GMT

"Pakistan is a failing State and it will have catastrophic impact in neighboring India. Pakistan can not be saved. Thanks to the U. S. policies for decades in that part of the world. "
@ Bob
Why is it that you say -he U.S. is to blame for the Taliban invaders now?!
Kinda twisted logic...

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That one guy — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:53:57 GMT

Can anyone not see this was done on purpose!? Isnt it obvious that they allowed the implementation of Sharia in those tribal areas becauese they knew this would happen? Come on folks just because they are from Pakistan and not American it doesnt make then stupid! We all seem to think we know how this part of the world works more then they do. I think we have all failed to realize that these people have been living this way far before our "awesome" country existed. Just like we wont change our cruel and evil ways, neither will they. The end.

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Dave In Chicgo — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:54:10 GMT

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Martin Guillot — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:54:11 GMT

I don't believe for one moment that the Taliban are "in retreat". They stepped into that province just to show that they could. It was their way of sending a signal to the Pakistani government (who is apparently terrified of these people). I guarantee you, that unless the Pakistani government comes out of its deep denial, the Taliban will have effective control over all of Pakistan and soon.

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Ray Manhattan, Kansas — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:59:52 GMT

No Western powers have ever defeated what are now collectively referred to as Afghans. The British attempted it on at least three occasions and got whipped. And we all know that the Russians (Soviets) were there for ten years until 1989 and received a terrible beating. Then along comes the U.S. looking for Osama after 9/11. (Remember it was the U.S. who armed Osama and others to fight the Russians). So far we have failed to catch Osama, and even if we did there are many more (and probably worse) people to take his place. Also, we have been pushing the propaganda that if we are there, the bad guys cannot do another 9/11. This propaganda is so stupid it is almost beyond belief, but a susbtantial number of Americans have been sucked in by it. Clearly, we need to vacate Iraq and Afghanistan but we probably won't until we are so bloodied and broke that we will have no choice. We will find out that it is impossible to remake Islamic/Muslim societies in our image. What a shame that our a--hole politicians in Washington, DC will have learned nothing over the dead and maimed bodies of Americans and Afghans. We need to get the hell out of Afghanistan and Iraq and let the peoples there determine their own destinies, now matter how much it will hurt our great collective American ego that keeps telling us erroneously that we can remake the world. Time to go home and fix America!! We are going to end up in Afghanistan just like the Russians did. We spit into the wind by arming and helping the Afghans fight the Russians from 1979 to 1989, and now history is coming back to smack us in the mouth.

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Endo — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:53:10 GMT

Bob you make me laugh, it is not the US that is causing Pakistan to fail, it is the Pakistani government. Their people are too afraid of conflict that they are willing to sacrifice military, morality, and their way of life to allow the Taliban to take over their country. While I am not against peace, there should atleast be something these people are willing to fight for (too bad all those things I mentioned above aren't any of them).

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Ed Guerra, White, Ga — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:57:22 GMT

To Eric Salinas, I agree with your evaluation right up to the point where you started the religous bashing. The Monday Morning Quaterbacks are the ones that need to take a turn in the barrel and fight. I did and it gave me great insight about how these people think.

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Nadine, Seattle, Washington — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:18:15 GMT

Good point, Ray in KS.

Afghanistan and Pakistan are in the strategic lgocation where an international liquid natural gas pipeline will be completed by late 2011. Right now the US is building its bases to guard it and setting up local, provincial, and national puppets for its strategic interests. Iraq was the first staging arena. Now the Taliban are the "Last of Mohicans" who have to make their brave stand against economic imperialism before getting hauled off to their permanent reservation.

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paul, KSA — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:27:16 GMT

What Mr Ray Manhattan say are true, it IS hard to reshape the devil, only God can punish them.

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Sandy Maliga, Los Angeles, CA — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:01:40 GMT

It seems that if the world support the majority of Pakistanis in imposing a blockade and other economic sanctions and taking military action in support of the law, that these anti-democratic traitors could be stopped.

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Dee, Asheville, NC — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:23:02 GMT

Denial is not just a river in Egypt--Pakistan is clearly delusional about the Taliban and any power they have to control them!!

They have the majority of their military on their Eastern Border with India and still haven't noticed the country being taken over from their Western Border. Will they ever notice who their REAL enemy is...probably not. Meanwhile, let's see if they throw another chunk of Pakistan to the Taliban to "pacify" them.

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Colorado Ralph — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:23:40 GMT

And where were the CIA drones when the 800 fighters
made their way to from Swat to Burner in their convoy? A missed opportunity?

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Anah,Calgary, Alberta,Canada — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:34:03 GMT

Dear Ben Canada,
Where in Islam does it say that all that extremeism is right???? Its quite ignorant of you to make such judgements before even having enough information to back it up. I myself am a practicing Muslim and I teach young children every Saturday about our beautiful religion. Just like every other religion Islam is peaceful and kind, all that extremeism goes fully against our beliefs. Learn something before you speak!!!

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Grandma A — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:42:45 GMT

What an interesting assortment to comments!!!Typically American--- Free Speech at it's best. Now for a 75 yrs young grandma who is facing a MAJOR surgery in 25 days=== This may sound like a very harsh feeling but, I'm fed up with bsiling out deadbeats who kill their own most productive citizens, and denie their own WOMEN education, health care, equal rights,etc.

As far ad I,m concerned, Lets build a large fence around the entire MIDDLE EAST area and PAKISTAN/Afghanistan area and let them settle their own difference-----I don't like the idea of my descendancs paying for this insanity for the the next

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Joe M — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:43:34 GMT

It is a failing black mail attempt from Pakistan to ask for money for their army. The real prize in the middle east is Saudi Arabia. We are being manipulated in thinking differently. If the Taliban take over Pakistan, they will ride over the Saudi royals so fast. It is the intent that Sharia law rules, no room for royals. They would take over the oil exports and revenues and push forward. I think the real problem is for China. Once the extremists make headway in poltical control, the masses of Chinese will rise up against their armies and overthrow Chinese military. I think the extremists know they have to move now before we find sustainable alternative fuels. They know that without money and no industry they will perish. Iran will vote in new leaders and with their intelligent young population the ideology and religious dogmas will lose and significance. I do think that the Taliban has just a few years or even months before the outside world eliminates them once and for all.

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Grandma A — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:43:39 GMT

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Plain Truth, TX, USA — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:38:53 GMT

Ray Manhattan is absolutely right...If Reagan had not armed the Talibans via Zia ul haq, Afghanistan would have been lot safer and secular. Half of those arms landed in Kashmir. So, there was violence there. Reagan supporedt OBL when his Saudi passport was revoked by the Saudis. Reagan's messenger, Rumsfiled shook hands with Saddam in 1984 after the monster had put chemicals on the Kurds few months earlier.

Remove the name of Ronald Regan from every monument in USA. Ronald Reagan caused 9/11. Reagan caused the most issues on this planet.

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Kalyan Basu, Plano, Texas — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:26:22 GMT

I request all interested parties on this subject read the the article of Irfan Husain "Why we are where we are" in DOWN newspaper internet version, dated April 25, 2009.

The fundamental problem that Pakisthan facing today, after 60 years of independance, is they do not know "who they are?"

It is sad that the sons of the most advanced ancient civilization of the world are now roaming the urban streets like angry animals and trying to destroy the human decency in the name of Islam, a great religion. The whole population are feeling they are helpless.

The great ancient thoughts that were generated in the Indian subcontinent came mostly from the regions of India that is now Pakisthan. These enduring thoughts even today inspires the modern thinkers shows the world the path of love, acceptance and many other higher values. Long befor the birth of Budha, Jesus and Mohammad, their forefathers in Swat and other valleys of the country, realized these human potentials. The sprit of this culture and the brotherhood of Islam can create a human society that will be the cherised goal for any modern country.

My hope that Pakisthan's educated citizens will understand this opportunity. I urge them to come out of there comfortable elite life and take control of their country. Once this change happens, Pakisthan will be a shining star like China and India, and no one will be able to stop it.

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RH Pine,AZ — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:59:03 GMT

I have always tended to the belief that the whole of that region is not worth one drop of American blood. If they wish to be ruled under some barbaric offshoot of Islam that is certainly their perogitive. If and when they pose a threat to this nation, then no one from any country ruled by Taliban Sharia should be allowed a visa to enter this country, directly or indirectly. If caught entering the US clandestinely, it should be assumed they are Islamic terrorists and they should be summarily dealt with.
As for those who bemoan the loss of that regions oil, tough bananas. Not one drop of oil is worth one drop of American blood. Besides, what are they going to do with it, eat it? If those who attain leadership roles in that region become belligerants or a direct threat, we more than have th ability to bring much pain upon them from clean across the ocean. The question is whether we have the stomach for it. They are counting that we do not.

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Brian, Birmingham, AL — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:40:30 GMT

What, Ray, do you suppose the US should have done when the USSR invaded Afghanistan? Do you think the US had no interest in the fight? Please explain since you are so sure the United States is the cause of every ill. And please also let us all know how you would have addressed the expansion of the USSR. I hope you would have offered cookies with whatever solution you have. Thanks in advance.

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Jim Padgegtt — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 03:57:35 GMT

Quote From the story: “…the Taliban announced they would not lay down their arms and openly challenged the state. They declared that democracy was un-Islamic and called for harsh Islamic laws, known as sharia, to replace Pakistan’s constitution.”

Soooo- Agreements with INFIDELS (a.k.a. The Devil) are NON-Binding. Imagine that!

And you cannot make any distinction in Islam between the religion, the culture, the law, the politics, the ideology or the government: in theory or in practice for one simple reason, Islam itself forbids it. So any distinctions we might wish upon Islam are in fact MOOT, and actually quite silly on our part. It is beyond me why nobody gets this. Islam is totalitarian to the nth degree.

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B. Tiernan, Portland, Ore. — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:52:56 GMT

Ray:

No Western powers have ever defeated what are now collectively referred to as Afghans. The British attempted it on at least three occasions and got whipped.

Bob T:

Well, no. The Brits then came back and took control again, for a long time. Please check history instead of repeating errors of others.

Ray:

Remember it was the U.S. who armed Osama and others to fight the Russians

Bob T:

Not really. We supplied people fighting in the north (mostly the Northern Alliance), while the Saudis aided those in the south, which included OBL's small group which fought poorly and were looked down upon by the Afghans. I don't think OBL's small group had any of the Stinger missiles. Read Lawrence Wright's "The Looming Tower".

Bob Tiernan

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jonathan ferguson anchorage alaska — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:18:44 GMT

We can not vacate iraq and afghanistan, these ppl need us here and the pakistan army is doing their job with the tabilan, it takes stragety for them to plan everything out be4 they go after the tabilan, i am currently deployed and we are not leaving these countries until they can defend on their own no matter how long it takes.

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John Doe, Wash — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:58:03 GMT

Abject poverty, rampant corruption public and private, and ubiquitous malfeasance are amongst other challenges that continue to cripple Pakistan which has since independence (ca.1947) and subsequent declaration as Islamic Republic (ca.1956) failed to establish any meaningful stability in government.

Pakistan has the sixth largest population in the world (ca.172million) of which about 95% are Muslim. Pakistan is of high importance geo-politically for a
number of significant reasons. Consider the effect if the Russians had prevailed in Afghanistan; only a small push south though Pakistan would have availed for them direct access to the Arabian Sea. Pakistan has massive resources of natural gas crucial to serving domestic needs.

Some people claim that the national sport in Pakistan is game of cricket. Others say field hockey.
Rather than these, it is actually power politics playing in every level of society, from the local tribal rivalries where gun battles continue to erupt in endless tit-for-tat, up through the local and regional competitions to put the suits in Islamabad, to the plethora of 'political' parties all jousting and jiving not for purported leadership roles but rather for highest possible positions proximal to the trough which we Westerners like idiots continue to
refill to the tune of multiple billions of taxpayer dollars every year without proper guidance, restrictions, audit, accountability, and consequence.

There is a dearth of any credible independent evidence this money is finding its way to proper use in building, repairing, or upgrading sorely needed infrastructure including electricity, water, solid and liquid waste, roads, communication, schools, education, healthcare, etc. contrary to what is reported in the rosy self-audits promoted by government aid bureaucracies such as CIDA from Canada. So where does all the money go?

It appears that what doesn't get spent on troops, hardware, and ammunition goes to the pants, families, and friends of the politicians and beauracrats holding the keys and proximal positions to the trough.
Does this look like a long term solution to you?
Does anybody believe this is sustainable?
Does anybody believe this is the right thing to be doing?
Prolonging inevitable chaos demanded by the very nature of this Quran-mandated tribal culture?

Admittedly, it's easy to point fingers at flaws and criticize but what is the solution?

One might argue the best thing to do is remove the nukes and let them continue to duke it out amongst themselves as they have been wont to do for thousands of years.
On the other hand, one may well fear the heavy toll an unrestrained Islamist religious tyranny will exert on the helpless poor men, women, and children given the abuses abundantly demonstrated already by the so-called religious leaders. So it is pretty hard to turn one's back and just walk away aware of the evil perpetrated under the guise of Muslim power men that use the Quran to control society according to their wishes, traditions, and interpretations which are used among other things to condone honour killings and brutal torture and murder of women simply accused but not proven of adultery.

Now here we are in April 2009 after the Pakistani government agreed to allow Sharia law in the Swat region the Taliban have posted public notices ordering women not to go out of their homes. The posters warn that Taliban will "take action against women who go out shopping" and also threaten shopkeepers with severe punishment if they are caught serving women. According to tradition, wishes, and interpretation of the Quran, Islamists consider it obscene for women to leave their homes and venture out in public without a male relative (father, brother, or husband or son).

This is all very perplexing given the advanced ancienty society in which Pakistani predecessors have shown they can be brilliant builders. Just look at
the fascinating history of civil and structural design and engineering around 2600 - 1900 BC in the Mohenjo-daro cities created in the Indus Valley in
what is now Sindh province.
Yet today it seems the Pakistanis couldn't organize an emergency exit out of a burning paper bag if you opened it for them, so hobbled are they by greed, power politics, and corruption. And lack of altrustic vision, force, and effect on a broad collective level.

The dirt poor and uneducated are powerless to resist manipulation by Taliban. Qualified Western NGOs not government bureaucrats at the trough should be controlling the billions of dollars continually poured in from the West so that there is a quality assurance program to withstand the ubiquitous malfeasance which is as common as breathing
throughout Islamic Republic of Pakistan culture. Development in education, women's rights, and micro-economic as well as large-scale macro-economic and infrastructure development will help to effect the massive change in cultural norms that are required to bring Pakistan back from the precipice above the abyss into which it appears headed.

All modern democratic civil societies evolved through difficult times to where they are today. One fundamental question appears to be if Pakistanis can
find the requisite collective will for change and find amongst themselves some altruistic national leaders rather than more crass opportunists in a long
line of same to replace those currently gorging at the trough.
The requiste social and cultural change is an inside job rather than one that can be
properly effect externally.

Pakistan must find the will and allow the West to guide and support them in the way as they have demonstrated repeated misguidance and failure on their own since 1947.

It seems fair to say the scale and scope of the current and near-future challenges faced by Pakistan far exceed the wherewithall of Pakistan to cope,
despite the proud claims of Pakistani politicians to the contrary.
Pakistan needs the West needs to help, support, and hold it accountable for measures taken to prevent the country from falling into the abyss.

Youth and families in Pakistan need to perceive and participate in meaningful opportunities via education and economic development such that they can no longer be brainwashed, controlled, and manipulated by Islamists and perpetrators of deadly Sharia dictates instead of civil law provided for in the constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
This is no small task. Given the tremendous extent of poverty and illiteracy, how likely is it a poor Muslim villager can stand up against a mysogynistic fanatical Islamist? Almost impossible. How could the peasant contradict the Imam, no matter how wacko the Imam, and survive? The whole village could and would likely realize the religious fanatic was not only misguided but evil yet the Islamist still holds the power in the village and uses references to the Quran and tradition along with his special brand of interpretation to beat the villager into submission or perhaps unconsciousness and death.

Firing bullets and dropping bombs are not long term solutions. We need to devise practical effective long-term solutions to combat fundamental diseases that need to be eradicated. Namely, anarchy fostered by fanatical Islam and arbitrary Sharia dictates, lack of civil law and independent judiciary, and rampant corruption which undermines the commercial and civil law and the independent judiciary as well as the spirit of the people and the fundamental tenets common to the original Jewish and Christian scriptures as well as the Quran which followed.

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Robert Burns — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:30:15 GMT

A tactical retreat. The Taliban has now seen how easy it is to take over Pakistan. They will regroup and be back in a month to begin their push to take over the country.
India has to be thinking how it will respond. Pakistan under the Taliban (with nuke weapons) would no longer be Pakistan, so all bets would be off.

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fleiter — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:14:40 GMT

If we had any brains at all, we would form an alliance with India and drain this swamp once and for all. Yes, it would be awful. It will be much more awful in five years when Muslim fanatics have control of a massive nuclear arsenal.

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John M, Aurora, Colo. — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:22:10 GMT

I think we should round up Republican ultraconservatives, those who nearly ruined our economy and brought ignominy to the United States around the World, who lied and cheated the American people out of their pensions and jobs, and who tortured prisonars in our names. They can take with them most Fortune-500 CEOs & CFOs who are themselves accomplished criminals of the highest order and send them to the Swat Valley where they can compete well politically with the similar views of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Every member of Congress of the GOP stripe should go there too. They can be led there by the previous administration. Good ridance.

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Julius Farmville,virginia — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:36:12 GMT

@ Ray in Kansas,Quote [ We are pushing the propaganda that if we are there the bad guys cannot do another 9/11.This propaganda is so stupid its almost beyond belief,but a substantial amount of Americans have been sucked in by it.]WOW right on,look at the bombing of the Washington subway,the bio attack on the wheat seed in the midwest,and the poisoned water in Seattle.But wait,that didn't happen.Nothings happened here !! But will we ever really know if our presence there keeps it quite here.Maybe these distructive wildfires,hmm.? I also would like to see our money spent on Americans,bring the aid & people home.

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Walter Lisbon NY — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:42:50 GMT

All I can say is we had better have a discussion with the Pakistani leadership who hold the keys to the nuclear arsenal. This discussion must include the plan of how and when to disable the arsenal quickly and permanently in the event of an imminent fall of the existing government.
Just as an aside to those who compare American religious zealots to the Taliban, you must be kidding! I don't agree with a lot of what American zealots say and do, but I certainly don't fear my life or liberty is threatened by them, do you?

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Abdul Rahim — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:08:33 GMT

im a british convert to islam, i have been a convert for for than 4 years and i have studied the religion in the best of detail, so i know what they are doing is not religion motivated is just because of there arogance, they are percieving what they are doing is part of there religion well im sorry to say well it isnt. Because ISLAM IS ABOUT PEACE. there just idiots what are making a bad name for the rest of us. well all i have to say is "if your cuzen has commited such a bad crime, it doesn't make the rest of your family criminals.

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Mark Louisville, KY — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:47:28 GMT

"Wait - hyperconservative religious fanatics attempt to impose their will on the population at large - you mean this is now considered a BAD thing by Americans?"

Give me a break. One next wonders when the Hitler comparisons are going to be used. Anyone who compares an American political party with members who are democratically elected to a band of un-democratic thugs who seek to impose Islamic law probably shouldn't be debating people with IQs over 60.

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Adam, Fayetteville, North Carolina — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:46:06 GMT

The only thing these people understand is violence, they use thier religion to justify what they do. If the press would stay out of the business of the military, the war would be much different, possibly over. The United States military is very capable of ending this at our discretion, but many Americans seem to have lost thier back bone, let the service men do thier jobs. I am a true patriot and I believe in this country, but I am seriously concerned with how far removed from reality the population have become. It is too bad that our countries demise may come at the hands of myspace, twitter, play station and mc donalds.

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John Doe, Muncie, Indiana — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:26:39 GMT

If the Taliban does take over Pakistan, India is not going to sit around and wait as there nuclear capability extends only to neighbouring regions and are not ICBMs. Most of the Muslim world tolerate Christianity as it shares many of the prophets in the bible but not Hindiuism. This is apparent in most of the Arab countries where there is a lot of churches but Hindu temples are not tolerated. The taliban could gain an army in Pakistan whose majority is in poverty and shares the love for India (Sarcasm). India after China has the second largest Army in the world but would not want to comit to a war as it is a drain on resources as seen in the U.S.. Most likely in the event of a nuclear threat India would most certainly step in regardless of what the U.S. agenda is. China and Russia would also not want a U.S. military presence in Asia especially on its border. It would be safe to say that if Pakistan does not clean up its act, it will become another Gafur.

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Eric X PHX , AZ — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:45:20 GMT

Dave in Chicago said - "Why is it that you say -he U.S. is to blame for the Taliban invaders now?!
Kinda twisted logic.."

This is a classic statement showing the total lack of knowledge in America today !
The USA has been meddling in the affairs of most every country in the world for over a hundred years, even now we have a MILITARY presents in 2/3 of the worlds countries.
What do think we would do if Israel placed troops, built bases and tried to influence the politics in the USA. ???

Our meddling has come back to haunt us and everyone seems to think the only solution is MORE MEDDLING !

WAKE UP !!!!

BTW; not even Hannibal could subdue that part of the world with force.

Religious fanatics of all kinds take advantage of ignorance to enforce their own rules. Even the Rev. Haiggie (not sure on the spelling) publicly stated he prays for Armageddon so that Jesus would return.

Lack of education and injustice will always lead to what was once called "freedom fighters" but now we call them terrorists !

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Carole Bender, Minneapolis, MN — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:05:00 GMT

Pakistan has nuclear capabilities; therefore, this situation should be a huge worry for everyone.

Inside the Taliban's 'grave error'

Sheryl — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:34:44 GMT

I agree with Ray in Kansas - a very astute and historically accurate summation and one that the powers that be in DC would have us forget. Funny how no mention is ever made about how Osama came into power and was armed. Our Gov's compelling need to keep it's citizens in the dark and distracted by smoke and mirrors is quite disturbing. It's like every administration keeps the secrets and bad mistakes of the previous ones. President Obama it's time to shed the light on all the stupid things the CIA and previos administrations have done. Let's get it all out in the open and take responcibility for our part in it and then vote on how we as a united country should proceed on these issues. I bet the majority of Americans just want out of that region. Pakistan is a different story - can't let religious zealots have access to NUKES!!!

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Ross, Virginia — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:12:20 GMT

Corruption and ineffective leadership by the Pakistani government allows the Taliban to gain influence and authority in these impoverished regions of Pakistan. The Taliban hold the high card and staying power in any long term military solution. Low military intensity and terrorist tactics will pevail. The goal is establishing an honest, reliable regional government trusted by the people to solve their problems. The government plan should include respect for the culture and Islamic traditions of that region while protecting people from the extreme fanatical thugs.

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You're an ass — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:32:53 GMT

Anyone attempting to draw a parallel between right-wing christianity in our country and Islamic fundamentalism is just a brainwashed idiot.

Come back when suicide bombings and beheadings become a way of life in your town.

"Show me an anti-religious man and I will show you someone who is still rebelling against his father." GROW UP!!

Oh I'm sorry - am I UPSETTING YOU???

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Dan from Texas — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:06:39 GMT

Hey Lee Miller from Texas, It was found in the Old Testament of the Bible. Please get your parts of the Bible correct!

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John, Wichita, KS — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:08:04 GMT

I agree with everthing said by Ray,above. Commenting only on fighting in Afghanistan, If the large, well trained and brutal Soviet Army, one the US Army was glad it never had to face on a battle field, could not achieve victory in Afghanistan then it probably can't be done.

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Michael Evanochko, Watauga, TN. — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:24:13 GMT

I remember a time in this country when those funny people, who wore turbans and ate goat meat, were half-way around the world and posed no threat to us. But that was when the world was still so much larger than it is today and our sense of security was masked by nothing more than our own inability to foresee hypothetical situations come to fruition. Enter Globalization and fast-track politics; secret alliances with unstable constituents in hopes they will unseat our rivals in their part of the world, whereby we can keep our own hands clean of messy events, and we are left with nothing more than more hypothetical situations to digest and/or ignore. Remember that the United States once had strong ties with Saddam Hussein and Mr. Noriega. When they finished serving our purpose WE were quick to condemn them and sentence them to death and prison. Having whored ourselves out to anyone and everyone who will fight for our cause we now awaken and wonder why there are so many people in this world who hate us for what we are.

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Spencer Selph, Thomaston, GA — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:30:43 GMT

These guys have been fighting for hundreds of years. I don't know what we hope to acheive with Islamics fighting Islamics. At the end of the day, they all hate the U.S. Lets pack it in and go home. Maybe they will kill each other and forget about the U.S.

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Anagha, Madison, WI — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:31:34 GMT

Taliban is after power. Whether it is islamic law or devil's law they are terrorists. Zardari failed in stopping terrorism... not only that.... he didn't even put a resistance to advancing militants.

A dog like Zardari can only bark. This dog is trained and fed by Taliban to bark on Taliban itself .. to put a show to the rest of the World.

Zardari cuts a ransom with Taliban to give Taliban the weapons ....and he will even give the nuclear weapons of this terrorist nation to Taliban.

Religion or Islam has to do nothing here. The spoiled corrupt nation don't even know what human rights are. How could they know Islam rights? (Islam means peace).

What other proof is needed to realize that Pakistan is the terrorist capital of the world.

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O know — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:56:48 GMT

Taliban goal is not Islam!! They stop all kind of basşc hunman enjoyment. Their failure means great to them. Fact is, they will!
Humans even each Pashtun born free in this world. But in sittuations like this each Pashtun is born a slave. Taliban is acting like a dog of Arabia or Iran. Religious fanatics will destroy not build the world. Freedom may rule all over the globe. Not Atoms but humans make this world reasonable. All together against corruption and terrorsim. Good humans live long.
Pashtuns must give an end to their Taliban to use relegion for politic outcomes. Religion is humanism. So simple!!!! Don't fool the world please. Each Pashtun must value his and other human lives. Please.

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I Know — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:06:56 GMT

Ray Manhattan, I think you are not reasonable person! A non itegreated nation means a corrupt nation. And danger for all. Afghans are non-integrated because of Pashtuns. Who the hell these Pashtuns are to neglect Tajeks, Uzbeks and Hazaras? If so, no American no Australian is allowed to live on lands which they live today! Think a bit. Pashtuns misuse religion. and it is pity that humans still can be dodged on behalf of religions!
Today, my brain says a third non-human, non-earth force is needed to ake us all Humans. We humans are the ones who should be kicked out of this planet because we are destroying it.
In Pakistan, no one is Pakistani. At the end, what you realize will be the fact that a corrupt nation has no place on this planet. Didn't Islam teach us to be Humans. Not the killers of Innocent Humans!!!!

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cool dj — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:08:26 GMT

OK here is the realdeal, Zardari wants money from US, this Taliban is all a show to create an emergency so US comes running in and write some blank cheks to Pakistan just like they have always done.

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Salem - Dallas, TX — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:09:04 GMT

YOU ROCK David of Baltimore!
Ditto! FREEDOM COMES AT A PRICE!

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I know — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:11:03 GMT

A soldier's job is to fight. That's what he or she is paid for. All soldiers against taliban must respect their jobs. A Talib is never right. Keep it in your minds. Enslaving nations, Enslaving children, stopping children from laughs, stopping humans from sports is not JUST!!! Why can't we fight against such inhuman forces??? Pshtuns must stop this madness. Because world knows now what they are fighting for. It is not Islam.

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Craig San Antonio, Texas — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:15:58 GMT

I don't know much, but I know this for SURE: people who ban all music are BAD people. Think about it- music is the ONE THING that crosses all borders, races, religions, and ages. It can only be good- and the Taliban fear it enough to want to wipe it out.

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Bash, London — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:20:36 GMT

i agree with Ray, in our part of the world, things are different, life is different. Imagine if a muslim state would try and interfear in US policies about whatever they do, say for e.g. telling them that they need to shut down the clubs and bars and stop drinking alcohol. How would that sound to a non islamist? the point is, respect all religions and dont force anything on others. If Pakistan wants to set up islamic laws and sharia, it has every right to do so being a islamic state, but not at the expense of the taliban rule. Talibans are not even muslims, i would classify them as one, our religion teaches us the message of peace and love and not suicide bombs and disrespect to humanity. U can also not compare pakistan to afghanistan, u cant put them in the same basket, pakistan is way more developed then Afghanistan and it has potential to do a lot more, which offcourse a lot of other states dont want, due to their interest in the region.

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Chuck — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:21:36 GMT

What is happening with Pakistan is only part of the picture of the war to come. Normally I wouldn't support wiping out entire populations but when you have a corrupt failing nation state such as this and the other option for rule is one that brings Islam back to the dark ages while threatening to annihilate the rest of the civilized world something very severe has to be done. If we don't step up and finish the hair brained war that Bush fought by committing every resource to the utter destruction of this islamo fascist ideology and every person who supports it, it will be only a matter of time before we are surrendering to fascism in our country although it may not be based on perverse religious doctrines. With the way Obama is going, is he going to try and negotiate with the Taleban and Al qaeda since he prefers to label the political opposition as a more dire political threat? And once Obama has negotiated a peace with these threats to humanity, how long will it be before he abandons Israeli freedom in favoring of appeasing terrorists who will only want more blood? Pay attention people and read the words of your leaders very carefully, it portends what they are prepared to do.

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Jose -Florida — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:43:38 GMT

There is no room in this world for relegiuos extremist who try to impose their will on other people.
Ofcourse Florida and bible states are the exception lol sad but true.
I say that living in Florida

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bob jack, houston, texas — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:59:57 GMT

I agree with Ray Manhattan. Let the men from the Middle East mold themselves, and just prevent the terrorists from
a) commiting another 9/11
b) getting a nuclear bomb

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Al surrey bc — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:01:11 GMT

Where is Ghengis Khan when you need him?

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margaret Statscewich Woodbridge, New Jersey — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:25:27 GMT

It's about time we started to mind our own business. Bring all our troops home where they belong. Our country needs all the help it can get. Were falling apart here. Fight the corruption that exist within . It is all around us . Shape up America befor it's to late.

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John Grigg, New Mexico — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:29:52 GMT

I have changed my name to Yahya Yusuf abu Yeshua in preparation for the Taliban takeover of the USA. Now that we have a Muslim friendly administration, it is only a matter of time. You may scoff, infidels, but you heard it here first.

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margaret Statscewich Woodbridge, New Jersey — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:33:53 GMT

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Vinay, Ames, Iowa — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:39:59 GMT

In every murder there is a motivation. So before we try to look at the culprits we should look at the country which will gain the most out of all this. Which country has the strongest desire to become the next superpower once US falls financially and militarily. There is only one country which fits the bill, China. They have all the motivation. They border the region and have built roads into Pakistan. They have already made deals with the people of that area that you do whatever you do, we do not care but do not spread Islam in China. If you do that China will very harshly suppress you. The moral of the story is that we are not fighting Taliban and Al Quida but we are fighting a proxy war with China who want to trounce us and emerge the next number one super power. Russians also would like to try, obviously they have an old score to settle. Economically though their dreams of superpower are so remote that they have to improve a lot on that front.

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Clairmonte Hughes — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:14:07 GMT

Isn't it ironic that everything is comming full circle? The U.S. and the Pakistani government helped arm and train these fanatics to fight and kill Soviet troops and are now eating the bread that the devil kneaded.

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Pete Holyoke, CO — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:14:44 GMT

Perhaps those of you who think that Christian values have no place in society should take your athiest views to Pakistan and see just how much tollerance you receive. This country was founded on Christian prinicples and they have served us very well. Nowhere in the world will you find greater progress of all people. Our founding fathers were deeply religious yet chose not to endorse a specific religion. Your right to express your anti-religious views do not preclude me from desiring a society based on Christian values as it was for 200 years.

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Charlie Griffith, Middletown, Maryland. — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:28:42 GMT

I'm leaning towards agreeing with Ray in Manhattan, Kansas. [...and what a wonderfully concise pun and oxymoronic name for a town in our great Mid West...no offense intended, really..]
We don't belong in Asia. Asia has absorbed foreigners for as long as we know that foreigners have been seen there. However, if we can keep those barbaric Islamists contained in as small an area as possible, it will enhance our security; I'm for increased use of long distance, remotely controlled unmanned aircraft for surveillance and hitting nuclear targets. Asia is no place for massed foreign troops. Let them kill each other, we can't prevent that. Silly to think centuries of hatred will be cured by American "aid" and do-good-ism.
Additionally, we Americans must get over this media-supported concept of our "popularity" abroad. What a waste of time. "Charisma" is the shallowest possible aspect of any real leader. Politicians: take careful note, if possible.

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j surinak, delavan, wi. — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:12:06 GMT

Saw the documenary style Movie "War & Peace" about Indian & Pakistan A bombs. Made by a film group from both India & Pakistan. the Pakistans referred to it in the documenary film as the "Muslim bomb". They also interviewed workers at a Pakistan laundry. They had a map of the world colored green which represented the world when everyone was a Muslim. I don't think a "frank discussion" with them & "group hug" is going to make them change their ways. Something to ponder. Remember 9-11 & Mumbai. Wish it was different, but it isn't.

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bob wallace key west, florida — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:42:34 GMT

I am shocked at how easily NBC has been bamboozled. you fools! that wasn't a "grave error". the taliban has just proven that they can move where they want with impunity! they know that the pakistan army will do little to stop them. and to ray manhattan in kansas: you have absolutely hit the nail on the head! why are the politicians in washington (and probably most of the generals) blind to it all!

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C. Hart, Hobart, Indiana — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:51:40 GMT

Gee, that's funny. I thought we defeated the Taliban several years ago. If President Moron hadn't dropped the ball in Afghanistan and allowed Bin Laden to escape, maybe we wouldn't be having this problem now.

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GaryB, Menlo Park, CA — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:00:28 GMT

All religious people but most especially Muslim fanatics think that the problem with society is that people are not religious enough. But the more religious a society is, the more backward and the more repressive. Pakistan, Saudi and Afghanistan are already way way more religious than say China, Japan. But the religious states are so much worse in every way, even when there is money such as in Saudi Arabia.

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A Soldier, Somewhere out here — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:30:33 GMT

To everybody, I will not sit here and condone ANY use of ANY God to justify violence or murder. Those that hided behind religion to validate murder really need to go back and re-read their individual texts. I sit here and read these thoughts of people from all cross sections of life, right wrong or indifferent and feel like I am doing my job, because you all write freely what you feel, quick to critisize the government or the military, without fear. There ain't many places to do that in Swat right now.
I am sickened to hear that America is the root of all the worlds problems, but it is interesting to read all of these texts and never see any solution offered by the same writers. If America is so evil, so inherently bad, and it is the fault of our leaders, then it is the fault of it's citizens, who have failed to choose to educate themselves, not only on the what, but also on the why's that this country was created for. Blame Bush, Blame Cheney or Rumsfeld or whoever you want to blame, they are men, and made the best decisions that they could with the information they had. Obama is doing the same thing. I know that this will never get approved to post because it is too logical and there is no name calling, but I hope it does- From a servicemember

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Emilio, Pharr Texas — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:49:12 GMT

First of all I want to say that I support our armed forces.. That being said, we are wearing ourselves thin fighting these wars… We should increase the pay of our soldiers, to help our unemployed enlist in the fight. We need to increase our numbers to sustain these conflicts. We should go back to what we do best. Shock and Awe. The taliban and al qaeda will only bow down through force… Diplomacy will not work with these people who only want world domination. Yes there will be casualties but as we know, another Vietnam will not work. We Americans want results. We do not do well with mediocrity. We lose interest and we lose support. I know that if we went in to Afghanistan with a sustained overwhelming force, we would be victorious. All the UN would have to do is give us a green light and our men and women of the armed forces would get the job done. The problem I see is not enough resources (soldiers and equipment) allocated to get the job done. We are the freakin US of A. The last SUPERPOWER.. Given our full resources and attention, the Afghans should be free already to decide their own fate, if freedom is what they want. Now if they do not want freedom, we should not be there to begin with. Same goes for Iraq. Those people need to WANT to have a democratic society, because there is no amount of bombs that will make them change their mind if they don’t. Back to Shock and Awe, no one does it better than we do. Against a sustained OVERWHELMING force, our enemies and those of Afghanistan and Iraq would be able to do nothing but despair. If WE cant promise to give 100% to the war effort, than maybe we should step aside and let another country take lead.

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Ed Williams, Germany — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:58:19 GMT

So many defeatists crying, get out, run, and let them be, fix the United States because it is causing all of the evil in the world. This would all be fine and dandy if we had another planet to go to. If and when you wake up, see past your own front porch and accept the enormous responsibility we, the United States of America have as the leaders in free world, then and only then will you be able to contribute to the concerns we have within our own country and our responsibilities abroad.

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Shannan Calgary Alberta Canada — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:43:17 GMT

Live and Let Die, if you really don't like them why are they still around. Bullcrap, Shame on Pakistan in the first place. They get away with what Pakistan allows them too. Until it interferes with their agenda, like a dysfunctional family lol. Let it be their problem. When Mommy and Daddy have enough they will get rid of them.

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Fred Chicao IL — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:24:03 GMT

The only way to deal with the Taliban or al qaeda is extermination or leave them alone. As the Americans can not mined their own business that only leaves extermination. What part of this do you not understand?

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Farzana, Peshawar, Pakistan — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:27:41 GMT

How the number of militants increased in the area? From where do they get weapons of the latest technology, & new vehicles?From where the money comes? Who is sponsoring them?All their actions are un-islamic & they are fooling around with our innocent masses . Why the government of Pakistan let them to establish their huge villas & fortress???Where was the Army when they were running their own FM radio, chopping innocent people, & destroying Schools and colleges?What is the job of The Army of The Pakistan, who is taking away more than 65% of the budget of the country??

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Naeem Javed, Lahore Pakistan — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:28:05 GMT

Well said Ray Manhattan,why USA desires to re-make Muslim society to its liking?
As far as political side is concerned, I as a Pakistani will not let down any person/party that stands against a pro-Indian regime in Afghanistan, may it be Taliban or any body else. So if US desires Taliban to surrender, better get Indian influence out from Afghanistan (and better from the reigon). People of USA, you thank God you dont have a neighbor like India that has been a pain in a neck for all its neughbors, you name any one China, Banladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka..... Please pray for all neighbors of India.

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Mike Manassas, Virginia — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:52:46 GMT

My God, the depth of ignorance and short sightedness of the majority of posts here is just mind boggling. Those of you who believe that the U.S. is to blame for what's going on in that region, or that the U.S. should just turn their backs and walk away from that nuclear-armed country are completely out of touch with reality. The biggest threat to security in the region would be to do nothing about the Taliban and their partners, Al Queda, in Pakistan and Afghanistan. This isn't Charlie Wilson's war any more; if you dumb asses can't understand that even the threat of Taliban control of nuclear arms can't be tolerated, because the alternative would probably be a REAL war involving many more countries than just the U.S., it's time you got your head out of your posteriers, and tried using even some of the 10 percent of your brain they say most humans use. Fat chance of that.

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TrooperRecon 101st Hopkinsville, KY — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:29:14 GMT

No, it is NOT time to bug out of there. It can be done, if you recall, the Soviets only started taking a beating when the US started supplying them w/ Stinger missles, SF advisors, and CASH. Otherwise, Russia would have won. The real problem is PAK, where they live, train, with impunity. Only a military coup, [Kayani] will save PAK. The army does not listen to Zadari, they listen to thier Corps commanders and they listen to Kayani. Striking targets inside PAK with manned warplanes is way overdue. We cannot make A-stan safe with one hand tied behind our back. Sound familiar? It should. Coz thats wat happened during Vietnam War. They just slid across the border, into Cambodia, Laos. Let us win.

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Nick-FayettNam, N.C — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:50:34 GMT

Western Govt.s can kill whomever they want. But if they assasinate the militant organizers and leaders, and they know who they are, it's 2009, they f'in know who they are, have any of you even seen google earth? And that's the lame has been tech they let us play with!!! imagine what the spies have. No, Christian militants like the last admin and the pope and things like that, they know and are right that enough people will be swayed by the violence of militant muslims. It doesn't mean they will start going to church and donating to the cofers, but they won't be muslim!!!

This country was founded on equality of religion and labor, we don't bow to royalty on our own turf, But do so respectfully in another home. However, Bush Jr., feels it's necessary to roll out the red carpet for the Pope? The pope is a figure head for someone's personal beleif, He had no business on the White House lawn. What's scary is that someone beleives that saying something about the pope might land you in gods crosshairs, But in all likely hood, The pope is in god's crosshairs along with all other "clergy" for being free loaders. The pope has had no more connection or communication with god then any other human and he should have to contribute to the community with labor and humility, not a pointy fuckin hat.

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Nick, NC. — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:53:17 GMT

No western power has ever defeated Afghanistan. Well we aren't trying to defeat afghanistan, just chump ass fighters from other countries. Oh, and it's not the people that defeated all those invaders, it was the terrain and lack of anything usefull. Why fight people when they have nothing.

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W West — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:57:07 GMT

Dave in NM & others are showing their ignorance. They have absorbed the lie of certain liberals. The Taliban is NOT conservative, let alone hypercondervative, by either the old meaning, or the meaning used by most conservatives today. In the old meaning, conserve - ative meant people who wanted to conserve the old ways. The Taliban doesn't want that. For over a 1000 years Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived together, much of the time at peace, running the same businesses. They want Sharia law -- NOT the old sharia'. They want to require women to cover completely, and not learn how to read. That's new since I was a child in the '60s (it was often in movies, but not normal back then unless you were going to be in the hot sun a lot).
Nor are the Taliban conservative in the usual sense: less govt, more personal freedom. They want total govt control. This sounds like many modern falsely-called "Christian conservatives."
At least study occasionally about your subject so you will not look the fool. When you open your mouth (that's in the Jewish, Christian, and Muslim scriptures called Proverbs.

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Ali Ahmed — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:11:21 GMT

I think Pakistan is using taliban as weapon to extract Billion and Billions of $$ form us, why don't we use this free aid on our millitary take control over afghanistan pakistan border by lining our millitary and let india take care on their kashmir side. no free $$ no GDP, they will realise there's no free lunch and they will behave like atleast working humans rather then using terrorist as weapon to get free Billions of $$.

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Mohammed — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:18:03 GMT

just don't understand why we offered free Billions even when they are forced to do more to control terrorism. we should reserve to enter pakistan only when chasing terrorist. why is pakistan blocking us to enter when we chase terroist entering pakistan, we are giving them free billions. THEY ARE FOOLING US AND USING TERRORISM AS WEAPON FOR FREE BILLIONS FROM US. WHY WHY AND WHY WE HAVE CREDIBLE EVIDENCE PAKISTAN'S INTER INTELLIGENCE AGENCY is well coneected with taliban....what's going on

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Indrajit Sen — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:55:05 GMT

I am aN engineering student from India, Pakistan's neighbour.Most of u have missed 1 crucial point- Pakistan(under tutelage of Benazir Bhutto) Very decisively helped the Taliban and Al-Qaeda gain dominence by its intelligence agency ISI.It was, among other reasons, in return for d scores of Afghan,Arabic terrorists sent to our Kashmir to spread terror, bomb d markets,destroy lives.And it all went unabated,and d U.S ignored our calls till the same people broke your back.Right now, Kashmir is astoundingly peaceful,for they have got a new target-you, people of U.S.Bad for you, and us as well.Well,ISI sowed the seeds of medieval islam in madrasas of POK to bleed India out.And now,their own dragon has been set free.Yet, ISI still explicitly supports these outfits, gives sanctuary 2 wanted mafias of India.

If you Americans haven't got it yet,
TO DESTROY TALIBAN, YOU HAVE TO NEUTRALISE THE ISI.
I hope the Obama administration takes some explicit, tangible steps in that direction.

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Jo, Woodstock, CT — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:23:56 GMT

Thanks for opportunity to submit views. I agree that subduing militant extremists through violence isn't the long-term answer, especially if it means ongoing, conscience numbing collateral damage to innocent civilians.

The Taliban has been coaching youngsters to live like militant martyrs. In the long run, forcefully trying to subdue them might only strengthen their cause (against Western society). Americans don't wish to be subdued through violence, so why would we endeavor to do likewise? Nevertheless, Pakistan with its unstable condition represents a potential worldwide threat should the Taliban take over. We live in a global community.

How can we show a violent militant minority a better way than perpetual war? "Three Cups of Tea" is an excellent and vital read that addresses this question. Our hard earned tax dollars would be better earmarked for helping indigenous people in countries that accept our assistance--similiar to what Mr. Mortenson is doing. I assume that we are already doing this to a certain extent.

Rebuilding infrastructure will best communicate our sense of tolerance, our generosity and acceptance of various ethnicities. Do we want other third world nations to genuinely succeed (employable work, decent living conditions)? Or do we just wish to subdue them so they won't be any trouble to our national security interests? These are the tough questions we need to ask ourselves.

The humanitarian potential of our own military should be expanded. They could be helping to build roads and schools, medical centers, farms, wells, etc. for impoverished villages. That would appear to be one of the wisest, and most peaceful investments in our collective global future.

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Maggie Long — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:35:54 GMT

I spent the last 4 years fighting these guys, when ut comes to tactics, they "hit it and quit".

Don't party to hard, the stories if their demise, are of course are hardly true, its their way of doing business. Please remember the Taliban and the USA where Bossom Buddies when they where fighting the Russians and then all of sudden they are these hard core terrorist.

Please remember they have never threaten a harmful act on American Soil.

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Karen Campione' Short Hills, NJ — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:58:23 GMT

While doing charity work in this region last year. I saw the Taliban Religous Orginization many times drop food off and Medical supplies to the very poor of that region.

These are good Godly Men-why bother the work of God, ever wonder why the USA is having a rough time-if you slap the Hand of God, you will pay,although Obam is repairing to a great extent the evil done by the BUSH/CHENEY Regime.

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John Q. Public, Minnesota — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:07:37 GMT

Is it me or does anyone else see the parallels between the Taliban and Nazi Germany just prior to WWII? Hitler kept advancing and promising he would not go any further while the world appeased him.
Aamir... Islamic law is already part of Pakistani society as evidenced by the Islamic overtones in their constitution. Letting a rogue faction of radical Islam enforce their will on the public through brutality and deception is internationally and domestically unacceptable. If the Taliban take control of nuclear armed Pakistan they'll have a platform on which to attempt to enforce their radical will on the world. If this were to happen, there's a good chance that the utlimate result would be invasion by an international force (U.N.) or nuclear war with neighboring nuclear powers. You see, the Taliban is looking to advance their agenda which is most certainly imposing Sharia worldwide. You handle your domestic issues how you please. Just keep in mind that when those views begin to affect other civilizations, it's going to get ugly and you will lose.

Inside the Taliban's 'grave error'

SG in Manhattan — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:38:39 GMT

Wow Ray What a brilliant analysis, let's leave and let them determine their own destiny. Even if that destiny is the use of nuclear weapons that they seize in a Gov't take over. Ray you should be Secretary of State your diplomacy tactics are amazing. Well then again I sincerly doubt that the corn in Kansas is in any jepordy of a nuclear attack. It must be wonderful to be so blissfully naive to sit back and hate American policy just because it is en vogue (Ray that means The prevailing fashion, practice, or style. Get a clue Ray the policies you are critiquing with your brilliant analysis have kept you safe for more that a few years...guess maybe you should have come to Manhattan and smelled the smell of 3000 dead on 9/11 and still to this day.

Inside the Taliban's 'grave error'

mw fernley, nev — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:00:53 GMT

you know what the problem is , we cant alow the taliban or al Qauda acess to pakisan nuclear weapons,it would be a real disater to everyone nothing else realy matters ,the other issues can wait

Inside the Taliban's 'grave error'

Jim Grey — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:04:45 GMT

Hey, Ben in Canada, Dave in NM nmakes a good point that isn't silly at all.

Just because you happen to side with certain fundamentals doesn't make them any less fundamental or any more apt at running a government.

This is what happens when you let religion dictate policies. Just because the Muslims are doing it in a far away land does not mean it's OK for those closer to me to do it to my own government, even a little bit.

What we really need is a tragedy to shake the Mideast's devotion to superstition. The Black Plague, bad though it was, actually did a lot for Western civilization by getting us out from under the rule of Catholicism.

The Taliban is currently where Western governments were a few hundred years ago.

Inside the Taliban's 'grave error'

Solon of Earth — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:13:36 GMT

Religeous government is WRONG no matter who is practicing it. God has NO interest in ruling any country; God only wants souls. He can have mine. I'm not using it anyway.

Inside the Taliban's 'grave error'

Mr. Personality — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:47:38 GMT

What would happen if everything from the Mediterranean Sea to the Himalayan Mountains disappeared in a gout of nuclear flame? What would happen if the holy places that are the center of so much controversy just disintegrated; leaving a smoking hole in the ground? What would be gained by making the richest oil fields on earth an inaccessable, radioactive wasteland? Why won't America exercize the same level of brutality that won WWII? Don't they want to win this thing?

War cannot be "clean" or "surgical". It must be immediate and close at hand. War must be too terrible to fight. Wasn't that the goal of Alfred Nobel?