Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

Alberto Velasquez, El Paso, Texas — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:43:39 GMT

How wonderful that China is coming to its senses. Maybe next year they'll let people Google.

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

Omar W. Rosales, Austin, TX — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:44:28 GMT

Once again, we see the pervasive nature of Chinese Realpolitik - deny and denounce any ideas that run counter to CPC ideology.

Tibet has always been, and will always be, a sovereign and independent country.

If Tibet was always a part of China, then why don't the Tibetans speak Chinese?

It is a simple truth that the unlawful occupation of Tibet was nothing more than a land-grab to stave off India in the 1950s.

Long Live His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Long Live a Free and Indpendent Tibet!

- Omar W. Rosales
http://www.elementalshaman.com

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

Lobsang — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:01:29 GMT

When Chinese Gov't takes away freedom from Tibetans, Ultimately that leads to The Chinese Gov't Taking the freedom away from Chinese. What the Mass Chinese do not understand is that any State run media, especially those of Chinese Communist Party always potrays their Gov't as Benevolent as possible. But in the process, it also hurts the Chinese Gov't because as it shows news about this and that "improvements" in my homeland Tibet. It fails to actually ask the Tibetans, how we feel about their so called "improvements" in our homeland. What the Chinese Communist Gov't has done in the name of "improvements" or "civilizing" the Tibetans is what is driving the Tibetan identity to extinction. If the Chinese Gov't is so "benevolent" and so kind towards Tibetan, then Why Block news on Tibet to it's Citizens? Why block the whole YouTube site if the Videos are "Fake". If the Chinese Gov't is "Not afraid of Internet", then Why sensor it?

The reason is quite simple. The Chinese Communist Gov't only concern is to stay in power at any and all cost. The freedom of its citizen means nothing. Human lives means nothing when it comes to remain in power. Therefore it sees the NEED to Hide any and all information to save itself from its citizens.

If "The Chinese Gov't is not afraid of Internet" then WHY IMPRISON THOSE WHO SPEAK UP?
Why SEND Chinese soldiers in every corner Tibetan regions? Including AMDO which China has annexed into Chinese province Qinghai and Most of KHAM, which has also been annexed into another Chinese province Sichuan.
If Tibetans are truly happy under Chinese rule, more accurately under Chinese Governments Rule, then Why do we continue to protest?
If we are propering under Chinese Gov't rule, Then
WHY DO WE CONTINUE TO FLEE OUR OWN HOMELAND?
If Tibetans were “SLAVES UNDER DALAI LAMA” then WHEN DON’T YOU LET THE TIBETANS DECIDE! Why not Ask Tibetans how they feel about Dalai Lama!
Why the need to create a day that celebrates “Chinese Freeing Tibetans from Serfdom” When we know that is not the TRUTH! When we know that it is the Chinese that put us in SHACKLES and ENSLAVED us Tibetans.
If China is doing such a good job in Tibet and Benefiting Tibetans then Why the need to suppress us? Why the need to regulate our way of life? Why the need to Move Tibetan Nomads from grass land into So called better housing, when we know that it was done to TAKE AWAY Our last remaining Lands.

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

Lobsang — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:01:59 GMT

If China is putting so much money into my homeland, then YOU CHINA! Are looting all and everything from us.
“In fact, China often complains that its “civilizing” mission in Tibet is costing the government and people of China large amounts in terms of subsidies to an under-developed region. According to official Chinese statistics, the level of annual subsidies to the Tibetan Autonomous Region (TAR) in the late 1980s was around 1 billion yuan or $270 million. However, all the infrastructure that China has built in Tibet has not made the lives of the native Tibetans any better; it has only taken the exploitative apparatuses of the Chinese government deeper.”
http://woodsmoke.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/how-china-is-plundering-the-natural-resources-of-tibet/

It has been 60 Years not 50 ! of Chinese Occupation and the Repression has only gotten stronger, that is why we are still fleeing our homeland, even when we know that there is very high chance of dying on the way. We can't live in our homeland freely and We can't leave our homeland freely. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.
That is where Tibetan situation is after 50 years of Brutal occupation by Chinese. When we tell the world of our suffering, The many uninformed Han mainlanders label us terrorist. We Tibetans are not Anti Chinese. We are Anti Chinese Government. We are Anti Han chauvinism.
The suffering that we have endured and still are from our life experience.
We don’t read books.
We don’t watch movies.
We live the life that we tell the world about. There is no sugar coating here, as many Chinese would love to belief.
May the seed of Compassion grow & flourish in everyone's heart.
May the Ignorance of Han Chinese mainlanders & Propaganda of Chinese Communist Gov't BE GONE !

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

Ben Gee, Edmonton, Canada — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:10:16 GMT

Dalai Lama is a politician in every which way. He wants to rule Tibet. He has a government in exile.
Have anyone ever thought how Tibet will be ruled if Dalai Lama succeed?
1. Tibet will be ruled by a theological dictatorship.
2. There will NOT be religious freedom.
3. There will NOT be progress.
4. There will NOT be modernization.
Is that how the West want Tibet to be?

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

George Machock — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:11:05 GMT

"As the largest global greenhouse emitter, China can and must take a leadership role in tackling global warming," Greenpeace campaigner Li Yan declared at the event.
I though all these years it was the US...China is not even covered by the Kyoto agreement....they haeva freee ride....what are we gonna do?????

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

SHARON WALKER, FOLSOM, CA — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:34:38 GMT

DEAR FRIENDS:
GOD WILL BE GREATER THAN ALL MANKIND AND SOMETIMES HE HAS NO MERCY. THOSE WHO YOU CALL TO HEAR YOUR PRAYER DO NOT ALWAYS. THEY BRING UNTO THIS EARTH MANKINDS DESTRUCTION.

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

mo — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:50:10 GMT

6 Billion in addition to the current Propaganda's Department massive budget ? I guess the former "tobbacco is good for you" and " Global warming is a scam" "experts" are chopping at the mouth for a piece of the action. Interesting how the press suddenly dropped it's interest in exposing false stories after last's years multy-million $ contract search for a PR firm to handle China's "image".... I guess they got their money's worth.

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

Frank — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:00:32 GMT

This shows Chinese are very careful in admitting foreign ideas, and that is smart. Not everything from the west are desirable, especially those purposely propagated to cause they downfall. We will see with interest how the world's longest living culture develop further in this millennial.

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

T. James — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:22:37 GMT

Time is running out? What happens when it does? No doubt we all need to be good stewards of the earth, but this crap about the earth somehow becoming a barren wasteland within a few years (10, according to Mr. "Nobel Prize" Gore)is just plain lame. We're to believe that a comet striking the earth millions of years ago making dinasaurs of the dinosaurs was less traumatic that the cummulative affects of various gas admissions the world over? Global warming is far more a political issue than an environmental one. In other words, it's just another "scare" tactic by a few extremists. The world needs to wise up!!!

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

Bob Smith, Detroit, Michigan — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:43:46 GMT

Oh please. Human rights are way more important than so-called global warming

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

Erik, Laguna Beach, CA — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:52:19 GMT

Yes, the globe is warming, but when will humans understand the climate is driven by the SUN (remember, it warms the air every time it rises) and water vapor. No trace gas has ever been shown to drive climate, so even if CO2 were to quadruple, it's a minor player, one that's driven by climate not the other way around. It's so incredibly egocentric to believe WE are the cause of and solution to global warming. Climatologists have 1-millionth of the climate history dataset, and they're daily trying to tweak their computer models to match it -- in an attempt to predict the future. What a joke! As a geologist, I'm appalled at the lack of true scientific perspective in this whole endeavor. It's not based on past evidence -- nothing like it has ever occurred. This whole HYPOTHESIS is precariously founded on a suite of continuously evolving, incredibly complex mathematical models that are in turn founded on a tiny fraction of our Earth's climate history. It's not science!

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

CC, Syraucse, NY — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:41:03 GMT

You know what? Stop it! Just Stop! Stop complaining about the tiniest little thing you think the Chinese government is doing wrong. Because, it's their right and it's their country! Maybe it's time for Americans to care about their own country and how U.S. government is running! (And recently ran the country into a deep recession.)

I find it funny the author is actually complaining that the graffiti artist cannot write "Free Tibet" on a building next to the most prestigious place in the heart of Chinese capital (Right in front of the Forbidden Palace that stood for over 600 years)! Imagine a graffiti artist try to write "Stop killing Iraqi people" on the White House! What kind of reaction do you think the American government is going to have! When you are in another country, you RESPECT their law and their culture. YOU DO NOT GET TO DO WHATEVER YOU THINK IS RIGHT. AND WHEN YOU ARE STOPPED, YOU DO NOT GET TO COMPLAIN. And here I thought it was just common sense. Apparently some journalists need to go back to "common sense 101".

You know, people have been yapping about pollution from China for a long time. (Even through China just RECENTLY passed U.S. in terms of CO2 emition. And energy usage per capita in China is only 1/6 of U.S.) U.S. and other industrialized countries have been polluting our earth for a long time, and just recently find their conscience to think about environment and the first thing they want to do is asking China and India to hold their economic development! How selfless of you! (Question to the author: why don’t you include some of these statistics to tell the truth, and the whole truth?) So now China is actually doing something good. (right? I mean…isn’t it good?) And I must be mistaken, cause the entire article was kind of talking about….the government is allowing “stop pollution” slogan, which is…bad? I mean, seriously, it takes U.S. over 200 years to finally abolish slavery), and only up to 1800s to stop killing the native Indians. One would probably think that one can give another country some credit for trying when one’s own country is soaked in blood and pollution!

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

Larry Stevens , Chippewa Falls , Wisconsin — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:01:13 GMT

Dear Peoples ,I am pleased that there is an effort, to try to curb emissions, in as many Countries, that are of ability,,

I do understand , we are in the Industrial age, in some effects, and we are into the computer age ,

I do try to respect , peaceful peoples ,,whom do or are in support,, for their Country, and peoples ,,

hopefully there will be those to support for their Country, to try to get along nicer, within their Country, and outside of their Country, of peoples, that are willing ,

to try to get along, with each other, of peoples ,if it is possible,??

take care,good luck,
from , Larry

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

kimi — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:17:34 GMT

china pursues its own way towards economic and political reform, and the dirction is set to be right at least in our minds.But it calls time to improve or readjust. There seems to be some misunderstanding and misinformation on that point in the west part, and now, we are really reluctant to reiterate again and again our clean conscience.Time will tell:)

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

T.R. Hendricks, Norfolk, Nebraska — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:11:44 GMT

Greenpeace in my opinon could care less about Human rights.

In fact, I would equate most radical ecological groups right along with the Nazi party in the 1930's where they trumpeted a green Germany, then they soaked it with the red blood of millions of Innocent people.

Ecology without Human Rights is like a can of soda without the contents. Basically it becomes litter. Take care of people and the people will take care of the land.

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

chris burman picton new zealand — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:22:41 GMT

I very much agree with the message of the article, nevertheless fighting climate change means more human rights.

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

Alice, Vancouver — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:25:52 GMT

Fighting climate change and improving human rights should not be mutually exclusive.

Tibet, no; climate change, yes!

Eddy, Los Angeles, CA — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:14:22 GMT

Bee Gee from Edmonton. – your comments regarding Tibet reflect the party line and prove that the Chinese propaganda has been successful.

1. Tibet would be a democracy.
2. There would be total religious freedom, unlike the way it is now. The number of monks and nuns limited, police stations and chinese spies inside monasteries. Let us not forget thousands of monasteries were destroyed, artifacts looted, etc. Many Tibetans were forced to use ancient scriptures as toilet paper.
3. Everyone's idea of progress is different. I would say there would be a more balanced progress inclusive of human rights, spirituality, and fundamental modernization.
4. Again, everyone's idea of modernization and the degree needed is different. The over-consuming and glutinous approach that has plagued much of humanity for many years can't continue as the planet can't sustain this kind of excessiveness.
5. It's about East vs West, that's Chinese paranoia. It's about the right to be free and self-determination.