For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Kaka Gandhi — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:19:11 GMT

There are 2 sides to this:-
1.America showing its muscle power in Europe/Asia.Will Russia accept this sitting down.
2.Not creating another Georgia in Poland.Could this lead to direct confronation between Russia and America at the dire expence of peace and stability in Poland?
The Polish are the only people to make the final decision as they will face the consequences (good or bad)ultimately.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Suzana Megles, Cleveland, Ohio — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:22:37 GMT

Well, I don't agree with the assessment of Obama being a "showman." I find his political ads so much more sincere and kind as opposed to McCain's. I was disappointed that one of McCain's ads said that Obama was promoting sex education in kintergarden. Not true - he wanted these youngsters to learn how to be careful in their dealings with people so as not to be sexually violated. Big difference. Then McCain said that Obama would increase taxes. Again -not what Obama said. The only ones who would see an increase would be those making over $250,000. I don't mind hearing the truth - but both ads were distortion. As for his running mate - she has done more than any other governor of Alaska to decimate the wolf population. After killing some mature wolves, she ordered the destruction of 14 helpless wolf cubs. I wouldn't want her to be my state's governor and much less the vice president of the U.S.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Khristof Zelowska — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:32:01 GMT

I live in Poland and I can say that most Poles are racists and would not vote for Obama anyway and what the poles have to say is not important they are 15 yrs behind the rest of Europe.The polish media keeps the population isolated from the rest of the world.Most of the educated Poles are now overseas snd what is left is not worth talking about.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Jim Hall, Kansas City, Missouri — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:58:57 GMT

I AM AN AMERICAN AND WE NEED TO STAY IN OUR OWN COUNTRY AND REBUILD THE DISASTER THAT IT IS NOW. BELIEVE ME ACCORDING TO THE POLLS I SPEAK FOR M___________________ANY AMERICANS. WE NEED TO KEEP OUR NOSES OUT OF OTHER COUNTRIES BUSINESS AND LET THEM DO THERE OWN THING RIGHT OR WRONG. LET THE CARDS FALL WHERE EVER THEY MAY. WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY OVER HERE RATHER THAN SOMEPLACE ELSE JIM HALL.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Prof. James Tyler, Boston, MA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:01:02 GMT

It doesn't matter what the Poles think. We're AMERICANS and our Imperialistic Expansion Policy will not stop until we have control of the world. It's our manifest destiny as Americans. If the Russians object we'll fight them on their homeland too. Right through Alaska.
Palin/McCain 08.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Stas Paszkiewicz, Wuhan, China — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:04:15 GMT

Poles LOVE Freedom, they even fought and spilled their blood to help America gain Independence from England! We must respect their opinions, but deep down, they know that these missiles will help defend their hard earned freedom!
Sto Lat!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Shannon, Colorado Springs — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:13:24 GMT

The Polish government must not understand the concerns of the Federation of American Scientists and others in the scientific community (Postal, et al, published in Scientific American) that the missile defense system will likely not work.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

George — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:13:30 GMT

How can we less government if we are springing up all over the world?

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

ted, old saybrook, ct — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:22:52 GMT

Another hawkish rattling of unnecessary swords by the like of the Bush/McCain war machine. When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail! A little diplomacy goes a long way and there should never be any unilateral attacks by the u.s. unless we are actually attacked. None of this pre-emptive strike b.s. which is always supported by the military fear-mongers.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Beckwolf, Johnson City, TN — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:23:26 GMT

"Both candidates, in fact, back the plan. Obama, however, has said that he would want to test the effectiveness of the missiles before they are activated."

Ummm, that's already in the plan, and is in EVERY plan involving setting up any kind of defense. Kind of an obvious duh there, but I can only assume that he is saying it to magically make it sound as if his position is different and better than McCain's 100% identical stance. Cheap way to stand out by making it sound like we just throw stuff up without testing it first completely, but the reality is that their stance on this is identical, therefore it's not a factor, or shouldn't be a factor, in the election, no matter what one candidate says to try and make it sound different with him in office.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

John Doe, Seattle, Washington — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:24:16 GMT

Yeah, great, now a country that aided the Nazi's in the extermination of millions of people want McCain in. They're credible.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Zak — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:28:20 GMT

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

doe — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:50:36 GMT

The Poles are not voting in the USA

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

noel — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:02:41 GMT

Sounds like more feathering of the nest what are we going to pay to Mr Kramek to use his town.More wasted taxpayer money still must be waiting for his check to come in the mail need to tell em were Broke!Maybe Hank Paulson can help him tell him were the line starts!!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Clay Dallas — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:14:15 GMT

Look out for Putin. Once a KGB agent always a KGB agent and if he thinks he can get away with reuniting USSR he will.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Bill Hazelip — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:17:31 GMT

I too fear what the European's fear, expecially the Eastern portion of Europe. A victory for Obama will put an end to the USA involvement in Europe with the new concentration in the Africa and South America. Obama will have a huge debt to repay to the minorities, liberals, media and Hollywood. Poor Israel, he will do nothing to protect you! But --lip!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Leszek Piotrowski, Poland — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:21:46 GMT

In Poland we need a bigger american base like those in Germany. This can make Poland real partner in NATO.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Patrick — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:26:08 GMT

"...Maybe Hank Paulson can help him tell him were the line starts!!" He don't need Hank to tell him where the line starts...it's right over there - six deep, and behind China, he ought to be able to see it for himself!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Linda, Irving, Texas — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:27:37 GMT

I think Obama will do the right thing by your country and mine. I understand that you want to be safe and who doesn't, but you have too understand what a missle site could mean and that in itself would not prove to be a good thing.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Mike, Etters, Pa. — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:30:09 GMT

"Yeah, great, now a country that aided the Nazi's in the extermination of millions of people want McCain in. They're credible."
"John Doe, Seattle, Washington (Sent Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:24 AM)"
An unbelievable comment from someone who is obviously ignorant of history and doesn't know any facts. 6 million Poles died. 3 million Polish Jews and 3 million Polish Catholics. read a book fella and get educated before you spew such garbage. I can see why you sign off John Doe.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

eric, michigan — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:30:34 GMT

We should be thankful the Poles are our friends. I think they are more like us than Germany, Italians or the French.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Art Vigil, Colo Sprs, Colorado — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:31:17 GMT

Your damn right its personal, we've been on the short end of the stick for the past 8yrs; lied to, largest national debt,high unemployment, trade deficit, an illegal war (4000+ dead and counting)....
OUR WE BETTER OFF TODAY THAN WE WERE 8 YRS AGO? HE SAYS HES A MAVERICK or REBEL (WHATEVER) HE STILL VOTED 90% ALONG PARTY LINES!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Michael Alexander — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:32:18 GMT

Poland aided the Nazis? The fact is they resisted them
more fervently than any other European nation.I don't agree with the missile base but I can certainly understand the paranoia of a country that has been nearly continuously invaded, occupied, or laid to waste for the past several hundred years. It's nearly impossible for an American to empathise with that.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Vitas G., NY, NY, USA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:35:54 GMT

The question ought to be "Why is Russian-munism praying for Obama to win?" Bye bye Baltics back to Putin if he does, win. Vote Nobama, ....no way to trust Russia, ever. From a Lithuanian-American, who remembers the Mongol USSR special forces animals that Gorbi sent through us with bullets and tanks (tank treads over people). Afterwards the red army comandos just sat around benches, in a daze. The units were pumped up on drugs. Animals. Russia. Not their people. Just Putin and his Mob. Black Market Putin. If more Americans lived through something similar, there would only be Republicans. But the liberals would still cry from their hideouts in the tree branches. Be proud of the USA. We are all very fortunate to be Americans.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Steve St. Helens, OR — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:36:29 GMT

Seems to me that what Russia and Venezuela is up to should demonstrate to the world that things are once again heating up. Poland should let it's people vote on the matter of the missle defense plan, and if they don't want it don't give it to them. We have plenty of submarines that can possibly be used for a missle defense not to mention their offensive capibility. The sides are being chosen now for the next cold, and potentialy hot war. Now the question is will the people of Venezuela allow Chaves to bring their country into the conflict or, will they revolt and throw Chaves out. Does the people of Venezuela want a few ICBM's targeting their country?. If we go to war with Russia it wiil turn nucular in just a matter of time. Now the USA has to get our south American allies up to par on their weapon systems. Unfortunantly, in a heated conflict Venezuela would be first to fall. If this is ok with the people of Venezuela fine let their country fall. If it's not ok the people need to get rid of Chaves ASAP one way or another.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Patrick Grattan, Valatie, NY — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:37:48 GMT

The Polish people have long memories and were betrayed by the Great Powers many times despite their bravery in the fight against Communism and Fascism. The American military presence in Poland is tangible evidence that the US stands for Polish freedom against Russia. Such a presence is long overdue and just in the light of the shameful betrayal of the Allies in allowing the USSR to devour eastern Poland. It sad that so much fiction exists regarding the role of the Polish people in WWII. Three facts, please, Poland did not surrender to the Nazi invaders: the people of Poland fought valiantly and fruitlessly and neither France nor Britain came to their aid in 1939 during the Nazi invasion of Poland. Two, more Polish people than any other nationality are memorialized for aiding Jews in WWII in the Garden of the Righteous (maintained by Yad Vashem) in Israel. Three, the only Nazi-occupied city that had an uprising against the Nazi invaders was Warsaw in the summer of 1944. Once again, the allies offered meagre help and sat back while the Poles fought against the Nazis and waited, giving the USSR the opportunity to seize Warsaw.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

joma Pittsburgh, pa — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:40:11 GMT

the poles did not aide the nazi's

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Link Robertson — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:41:11 GMT

The whole thing is scary. I wonder what the history books will write about this time.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Andrzej Lewandowski, Perth, Australia — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:42:21 GMT

Average Pole's view on the US elections is as ignorant as average American's idea about world geography and politics.
Those amongst Polish population who might have some view are mostly conservative, who hold naive perception that the US is still an economic superpower.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Jim, Knoxville, TN — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:45:28 GMT

As a businessman that has been to Poland I think the missle shield is a good idea. As a tourist visitor in Poland I think that their beautiful and hospitable country must be protected, both by the shield and the NATO Alliance.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Ronnie l McCulley,Jacksboro,Tennessee. — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:48:00 GMT

Let the EU take care over there.We have too many Americans in too many parts of the world.Its OK to help out sometime but not in everything.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Jason Largo, Pittsburgh, PA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:48:06 GMT

The Polish people are already on our side and against Russian agressiveness. Why should we dump money there when we are hurting here? Let's think of our own people first for a change!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Stan Strzelecki, Clarksburg, NJ — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:48:46 GMT

John Doe, or what ever your name is. You don't know your history. If the Poles were aiding the Nazis. Then explain to me why my father, who was a partisan, spent years in Nazi concentration camps.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Cair, SC — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:49:44 GMT

We need to protect those who ask to be protected. The whole idea behind alliances such as NATO is to keep people safe. We're going to be taxed anyways, regardless of what it's spent on. At least you know your tax money is going towards protecting the lives of innocents. It may conflict with Russia's view of the world; but if you have a problem with your neighbors being safe, without increasing the chance of their aggression, perhaps your motives aren't necissarily peaceful towards them.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

KyleK — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:49:50 GMT

Poland is the only country that has remained strong in the face of the rising Islamic tide that is drowning France, Spain, Italy and the U.K. Any country that faced what Poland has in its history -- only to raise itself into a "player" on the world stage has my total support: and a strong U.S. president knows when to support America's allies.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Kina, Newark, NJ — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:49:55 GMT

I think America should concentrate on America first and then worry about other countries. We do not need to get involved with other countries until we fix the problems we have at home first (economy, other wars that we're fighting). For Prof. Tyler, your jingoistic view of the world is sad and the reason we are in the mess that we're in right now. Remember...all great empires fall. If we don't immediately try to solve the problems at home, America will fall. Let's keep our noses out of other countries for awhile and work on rebuilding our own.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

James Mwape, New York, NY — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:50:38 GMT

I am an American and I say Poland, like Georgia needs protection, our protection. We cannot afford to look away from danger. There is evil in this world and evil men are still at work. The world cannot afford another attack on Poland. Poland is a free democratic nation that needs our help to sustain its young democracy. The Bush principles should live on.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Jamie, Chicago Ill — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:51:26 GMT

John Doe-read your history the Poles fought against the Nazis and Communist longer than any other country on earth, and suffered more than any other country on earth because of it. The Poles never aided the Nazis in fact there were more Poles (many were Jewish) killed by the Nazis than any group of people on earth.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Josef Papkin — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:53:05 GMT

John Doe from Seattle, Washington, I got a news check for you. It is America that aided the Nazi's (Nazis were GERMAN and AUSTRIAN) by denying entry to the US for European Jews in the 1930's and 40's. It was the American president who refused to let them in. And it is 46% of Americans wh want McCain. So get your facts straight, before you sound off.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Chris Houston, TX — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:58:20 GMT

Although I do think it is important for people to take interest in events going on outside their country, it doesn't really matter who Poles prefer in the election because they don't get to vote. The only opinion that really matters in November is the American opinion. Just stating a fact.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Joe Schabelli, Pennsylvania — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:59:17 GMT

Joe Schabelli, Pennsylvania

Poland, Barack Obama is the only hope you have. John McCain likely will not even live another 4 years.

McCain may say he's on your side today or this morning but with him that can change in a matter of hours depending on what his cronies tell him to say. He's not his own man anymore. He's become frail with age and allows others to make his decisions for him.

With Obama you get a man true to his convictions.

With McCain you get the remnants of a man and one who has abandoned almost all of the convictions he had when he was young and stronger. He now gets pushed around everyday by his campaign staff and a woman who's second on his ticket.

Don't fool yourselves, there is really no choice between the two. Obama is the only one who you can count on.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

John Shaver — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:00:23 GMT

I am an Amerian who worked for the US in Poland and I can tell you the attitude of the politicians is to take everything they can for free from the US. US Supported Sites that were no longer required after the fall of the Soviet Union old guard were kept open just to maintain the happiness of the few. They have expensively maintained villas with very expensive art work hanging on the walls and drink nothing but the best Vodka at the expense of the American taxpayer. Of course they (the politicians) would love to have this extra money for their use. The people of Poland would gain nothing and lose some of the security they have enjoyed for quite a few years. We have no business installing missel sites in Poland. We need to start fixing our bridges, roads and city facilities.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Sandy, Deming, NM — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:01:38 GMT

I have a son and daughter-in-law living in Poland. I would like at all costs to keep them from being blown up or taken over by the Russians again.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Factchecker, Buffalo, NY — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:01:59 GMT

To John Doe from Seattle...The Poles did not, I repeat, did not, exterminate or collaborate with extermination during WWII. On the other hand, there was ugly treatment of the Japanese by the citizens of Seattle and other West Coast Cities in WWII. Please look it up. The nation of Israel has a memorial to the Poles who saved Jews during the Holocost. The Japanese have only bitter memories of businesses seized, forced resettlement (to camps in the desert West) and many other painful examples of the hooliganism that ran rampant in Seattle from 1942 to the end of WWII. The WW II German POWs transported to the US were treated, on the whole, better than the U.S. Citizens of Japanese descent.

Factchecker, Buffalo, NY

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Lauren Conley, Warsaw, Poland — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:02:00 GMT

First of all, journalists ASKED the Poles their opinions. So, they have every right to answer. Their opinions do matter because we have made them a very important ally in our war on terror. If you don't know Poland's huge contributions to US interests then you need to educate yourself. Many in Washington consider Poland the 51st state, that is how close their relationship with our government is.
For the genius who brought up WWII, the Poles were victims of Hitler's wrath as much as the Jews. The Nazi plan was to enslave the Slavic people and make them work for Germany. In addition, the Poles are one of the few European countries who actually tried to fight the Nazis, assuming that the Allies would come to their aid. That did not happen. In addition, Churchill and Roosevelt basically gave Poland to Stalin and victimized them once again.
I'm an American living in Poland while my husband works at our diplomatic mission. It saddens me that the only dialogue some people have to contribute to this message board is arrogant, xenophobic nonsense.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Mike, Grand Junction, CO — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:07:23 GMT

John Doe? Did you take any history or where you sleeping during class?

Let's become isolationists/pacifists again. That's what a lot of Obama voters want to use. It will be like the 1930's again when we ignored Germany and Japan's rise to power. FDR goaded the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor (he also knew about the sneak attack) because he knew the American people wouldn't willingly go to war. You can't ignore the fact that all large part of the world doesn't like us and wants to do away with us. You can't ignore all of the radical Muslims and you can't ignore Russia.

Obama is seen as week on defense and too willing to negotiate with terrorists. Obama is very naive when it comes to foreign policy and Biden's policies won't work. The Muslim countries would love to see Obama elected because they think he is their friend. Look at Obama's choice of fine friends- Rezko, Rev. Wright, Ayer, etc. Obama was an angry black man growing up and has picked is friends accordingly. He has thrown most of them under the bus you I would be wary of wanting to be Obama's friend.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Jersey Lady — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:08:10 GMT

If the best the Poles can think of is an increase in their economy as a result of a public pool and airport, let them built it themselves.

We need to mind our business. America has more pressing issues such as ending the war in Iraq, and straightening out our economy.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Ala Asinska, Warszawa, Polska — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:08:37 GMT

Why do you live in Poland then Khristof or whatever your name is??? I now live here too, by choice, but I am a POLE and I am not an 'it'. I'm very interested in the US election. And guess what else, there are tons of Poles in the US who do vote because, guess what? They are also tax-paying, law-abiding US citizens. So stop complaining about Poland being 15 years behind Europe.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

realistic,usa — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:10:16 GMT

Prof. James Tyler, Boston, MA are YOU going to fight the russians for YOUR imperialistic policy?

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Steve, Miami Beach ,Florida — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:10:58 GMT

Some Poles did collaborate with the Nazis, but after the war many Poles were involved in attacking Jewish death camp survivors when they returned home. Several thousand Jews were killed from 1945-48. Polish people in the USA (except maybe in Chicago) will not vote for Obama as many hold racist views. I know this as a native of Chicago.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Paul Klimek, St. John, IN. — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:12:17 GMT

Prof. James Tyler, and those like him, don't belong in the land of the free. They are screaming, Mao-inspired liberals who pontificate because words are free. Were they to actually make an investment in their country they would change their tune.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Bill Koski Marana Arizona — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:13:49 GMT

The Poles have been picked on long enough.We can step up and be a big brother.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Jacek, Chicago, Ill — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:14:23 GMT

BRAVO Patrick from NY. Someone who knows their history of the brave Poles who fought for freedom only to lose theirs. Hopefully the US will recognize what a true allies can do together not only with the missile shield but the war against Islamic Extremists and to help the economy of a truly great country POLAND.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

I'm In Your Head, Kansas City, MO — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:14:33 GMT

Pretty weird. All the America-bashing seems to be coming out of America. Poland seems to think the US is alright. They may very well not appreciate the presence of foreign troops - from any country - but the word "imperialist" is only being used by Americans. Weird, yet interesting.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Greg Portsmouth — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:15:45 GMT

Andrzej Lewandowski, Perth, Australia

How do you know how educated the average american is about politics or anything? Second hand through the news possibly? Why not go back to your homeland your not a native of Australia thats for sure. Embrass your heritage instead of hiding down under.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Danielle Kowalsky, North Carolina — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:16:32 GMT

Thank you for those who agree that the Polish did not "aid" the Nazis! While there WERE concentration camps in Poland, this does not mean that the Polish government "aided" them. This would be the equivalent of terrorists taking over our country and building camps to exterminate us. And many of the Polish were Jewish. It does not seem to me that YOU are credible, you obviously have not picked up a history book, and surely you do not have family from the country.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Howard Smith, Connecticut — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:17:01 GMT

If the Poles want us there then we should be there. Any country who is willing to embrace freedom and a democratic form of government should be accommodated. I don't see any other countries willing to stand with Poland and that speaks volumes in itself.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

dean charlotte nc — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:17:11 GMT

I can understand the Russians concern. We didn't like it when the Russians were going to put missiles in our back door (Cuba) back in tha sixties. wich caused us to befriend the cubans for 40 years. the russians decided not to do that, So why should we do that to them.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

modelewski, usa — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:17:19 GMT

God Bless Poland. We should help the allies that help us. I have no doubt Russia would use any excuse they could to regain Poland as a territory. Putin might even try to give everyone Russian passports then use its military claiming to protect it's "citizens", it seems to have worked in Georgia.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Scott Phoenix AZ — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:19:08 GMT

To: "John Doe" from Washington.... The Polish people did NOT assist the Nazis in the murders of Jewish and other people! They were in MANY cases victims themselves. Do you even know that being Jewish is a religion and not a nationality?! Uneducated peole like you should stay off the internet, its how misunderstanding leads to conflict.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Clay Dallas — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:19:08 GMT

Putin ia KGB now and always will be and so are his entire cabinet.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Jeffrey de Graft-Johnson, Lodz, Poland by way of Houston Texas — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:19:36 GMT

I studied and lived in Poland for 4 years; the Polish people are very wonderful although sometimes very misunderstood by the rest of the world. Those that I have spoken to, have very different opinions on the future president of America, nevertheless all of them hope and want the best for the United States.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

scott phoenix az — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:20:24 GMT

guess Ive been censored from setting the record straight.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Barry Onothing — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:22:23 GMT

Joe Schabelli: Do you really think so? I have seen Barry Obama change his opinion more times in an afternoon than McCain in 10 years. It must be that Obama is "flexible". Get that your man Obama is as ignorant as he is praud. The problem is that he has no clue but does not know it. Obama has the principles of a communist: non existent.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Mike Waukegan, IL — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:23:55 GMT

Poles are Nazi. Are you kidding? The dead camps where placed there to hide them and be close enough to Germany to be useful. Never forget that most of the people killed in these camps were jewish and non jewish Poles. History is written correctly just read it.
During World War II. The Polish pilots that could fled to England and fought from there. In fact name any war the USA fought and poles were there. A free Poland is want them want and if a missle system helps that end, than build several of them. To hell with Hilter and the USSSR.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Marek Radacz, Jacksonville Fl — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:24:46 GMT

John Doe = ignoramus...
Hope that the shield will be installed... we need the shield here in US - the more Russia is opposing it - the more we should realize its importance... Obama will find a way to weazel out of it...

VOTE for McCain/Palin to keep US safe

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Dave K. Seattle Wa — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:25:06 GMT

Ronald Reagan ends the cold war, George Bush starts it up again. Put the missile defense system in a country that won't have Russia threatening military action. Let's avoid WWIII.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Denise-Dallas — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:27:06 GMT

To Prof. James Tyler of Boston--you call yourself a professor? Imperialism has only gotten us the fame we have now. No one likes Americans worldwide because of people that think like you. Poland is and will be protected because of it's history. There is no need for the US to go and install missiles just to prance in Russia's face that we can. Remember, a wise country is one that heeds advice and Putin has a plan for us if we ignore it. We aren't next door, we don't deal with Poland on a daily basis, how can we just come up with %^&* like this one day and not care about the consequences. America will have it's dooms day if we continue like this and that day is sooner than you think. Why instead don't we protect abused and neglected children in this country. That is the root of criminal activity. Why don't we help single ignorant mothers go back to school so they can better themselves. Why don't we? Because the US is too busy wanting to fix other countries and the only thing it does is create more hate. This is why 9/11 happened. Because the US with all it's selfish people hits, but when it's hit all we do is pull out bigger guns.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

UB, Delray Beach, FL — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:27:35 GMT

Who cares???? They can't vote over here so their opinion is meaningless!!!!!!!!!!!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Stolc, FL — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:27:40 GMT

Poland didn't "aid the Nazis." In case you missed that day in World History, they were invaded, point blank, and ethnic Poles were imprisoned in ghettos and killed in concentration camps for their own "racial inferiority" and enemy of the state status.

In the mean time, like the Kurds, the Poles keep getting used and abused by those who make them promises and then have neglected them throughout history.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

D, PHOENIX, ARIZONA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:27:43 GMT

To all Americans:
U guys talk about other countries???????????
90% of Americans have no clue where is Europe, not talking about Poland.
75% have no clue where are some states in this country.

And Polish people do wote on the ellection, ther's only 12 million of them in the U.S. alone.
These are the facts, so please stop complaining.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Cair, South Carolina — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:28:01 GMT

With all due respect to the opinion on Obama from Joe Schabelli; it's not very appropriate to say McCain will likely die in four years. In fact; it's rather sad to see that when finally a fairly Objective News Article is found (ironically in the World BLOG) that you feel the need to taint it with close mindedness. In fact, you have no basis of fact behind anything you've said. It's about as ignorant as the lunatic saying the Poles helped the Nazis, which, although i'm for McCain; I regret having to see Obama associated with closed minds due to his supporters.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Karen — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:29:59 GMT

Frankly we as Americans have no business attmpting to please foreigners with our presidential selections. Yes we should be friends with the rest of the world, but our country comes first! Not the Poles, rusians our Iraquis.

www.chilitoz.com

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Mike, Virginia — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:30:06 GMT

As a Polish American, I am sorry that your countrymen put their lives on the line for the USA. As a former American military member, I recommend you do not put this shield up. We in the USA only bend to the whims of the media. They control our destiny or lack there of. It is very difficult for any representative of the USA to live up to their commitments with the wishy-washy poll savvy members of congress who say one thing one day and conveniently forget or attempt to pass the buck the next day. That ended with President Reagan. Do not trust our representatives or our presidential candidates who are both Senators, full of hot air and only know how to get elected to office. I think of the holocaust and everything the Polish people have endured. Do not trust a country that lives by population control (murdering babies) and call it a women’s choice and make it sound appealing. Do not trust my country. Long live Poland and her people. Stay Safe...

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Hammer — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:30:29 GMT

I've got news for you "Americans are racist", always have been, always will be, but only by the liberal medias definition of "Racist". By their definition our racism is hidden just under the surface. On television, in the newspapers and while at work, we Americans have become expert at distracting negative views of who we are as individuals and denying we have ever uttered a negative word about another person because their skin color was other than their our own or we spoke a different language. At home and in the company of childhood friends and family we are free to say what makes us laugh, most of which would be considered racist by the talkingheads on the idiot box when in fact most of it is simply people goofing on eachothers differences. That being said, I knew Obama would beat Hillary and I knew McCain would choose a female running mate. I also know that Americans at this point in time will not elect a black president... partly because we can't! due to the fact that the corporate bigwigs who control the Republican party also manufacture and calibrate (err, manipulate) our voting machines! Long Live Our Hypocricy!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Angela, Minneapolis, MN — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:31:58 GMT

The most important thing for all earth citizens is to avoid having your family and children slaughtered by war. Having another Bushy in the white house is frightening, no compromise, this is not the Christian way, how can those freaks even claim that faith. Obamas the only one with sense enough to communicate and PREVENT war.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Ezra, Washington DC — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:35:38 GMT

This U.S. Shield is bull and instigates a future war with Russia or Iran. We all know Russia or Iran wont attack us first, its not in their interest. Say no to imperialism and watch out for the new world order. Destroy Zionism and save the world.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Dennis — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:36:25 GMT

All of these voices of isolationism... It was these same voices that allowed Hitler and the Nazis to take Czechoslovakia and Poland prior to WWII. Those voices said look the other way... It is not our responsibility... and then… we didn't know what they would do... it is not our fault.

It is OUR responsibility and our DUTY to stand against the EVIL in this world. God Bless the polish People and God help America.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Doloires Fleming — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:37:47 GMT

Hey Doe you say the poles are not voting in the United states.I do not know where you have been but there are millions of poles who will be voting in this country. There are polish people in every state in this country who will be voting in November.DAH

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Russ J NW,Illinois — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:39:13 GMT

I assume the US taxpayer is to pay for this. I would recommend the EU pay for its own defense from now on.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Henador Titzoff, Orlando, FL — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:39:29 GMT

Everyone thinks the missile shield is there to protect Poland. It is NOT! It is there to prevent Russia from rolling past them on their way to the rest of Europe! Some say it is also there to attack Iran, which has nothing to do with Poland or Europe. Poland is just a place to launch missiles.
Why can't Poland develop their own defense systems at their expense? If the USA does everything for others, then they'll never develop their own industries and technologies, and the USA will always be spending its taxpayer money abroad instead of at home or on our HUGE debt. No wonder we have a 9.7 trillion dollar debt, as of yesterday! In 10 or 20 years, we won't be able to pay the interest, and then let's see who's going to help us! Nobody!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Erin, Abilene, TX — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:40:03 GMT

Wow Guys. If it was a country in Africa... you wouldn't be saying anything about supporting their economy. Lay of the Polish. They may have supported the Germans but we forgave them along time ago. Get with the times. It's actually a good thing that a European country is finally supporting the other candidate. However... it really doesn't matter. It's still up to the US to pick a good leader. Stop bickering and start reading about OUR candidates.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Francesco Dongelli, Washington DC — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:40:25 GMT

To all those who are against this missle shield - However, I do not think it might be the best idea with our already tense relations in the area, being the only World Power left - it comes as inate responsibility that we must also be involved in every facet of world politics/conflicts, etc: Although im sure many people are going to respond negatively to this post, first - before you say one thing in opposition, answer me this: Being a citizen of what other country can you travel almost anywhere in the world, and, for the most part be respected, go WITHOUT a pre-approved visa, and feel safe in the fact that if something happens to you, your country will do its utmost to maintain your safety? Also, before all you travel minded folks respond saying "I dont feel respected/safe/etc:" I have travelled extensively throughout 4 continents, have dual citizenship (American and Italian) and visit the Middle East, in particular, Syria and Lebanon at least 4-5 times a year to visit family. Although I have at times felt a slight unease, or a sense of hostility, at least in that region, I HAVE NEVER felt scared, or embarressed, because no matter what people say, if given the chance, 75% of them would move to this country in a split second if given the chance.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Steve Scripp — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:41:19 GMT

Have whatever feeling you want about the 2008 political election, but the slamming of the Polish people as stupid and racist is just ignorant. The talk that the Polish were somehow connected to the Nazi extermination is also ignorant. Read a book before sprouting untruths....

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Dave, NY, NY — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:42:10 GMT

So, when obama gives his speech in Germany he's being a "citizen of the world" and the Germans are great. But when someone from a different country backs McCain, suddenly "Who cares what they think". Is there a cure for liberalism? lol Every day I'm amazed at how clueless they are, so snide & hateful & ignorant. I really can't believe that anyone would vote for obama...and when I ask people why they support him, no one can give me an answer. Libs: Pure emotion & hatred...zero logic.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Joe Bladek — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:42:50 GMT

Two Polish generals fought for freedom of United States: Kosciuszko and Pulawski. Poles fought Nazis on many fronts: in Batle of Britain, Monte Casino, Tobruk etc. and what do they can in return is a bunch of insults.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Sherry — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:46:06 GMT

The new generation of Americans.. entitled and only concerned about what is in front of them... if it's not important to me today, it's not relevant. You are delusory about the world and should take up some history lessons. If parents hadn't been looking the other way while raising a lot of these kids, maybe they would have taught them some manners and life lessons and a little bit about the world. It shames me to see what we have produced.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

DAN CEE DENVER COLO. — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:49:32 GMT

CUBA MISSLE CRISIS ??? DOSEN'T ANY BODY REMEMBER???
THE U.S WAS PISSED ABOUT U.S.S.R IN CUBA SO GO FIGURE
RUSSIA WOULD NOT MIND THE U.S. IN THERE BACK YARD
I PRAY OBAMA WIN'S OR WWIII W/MCPALIN

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Joey — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:50:38 GMT

As Mr. Ron Paul has repeatedly said: NO nation building- which means NO missle shield in Poland... & oh yeah, get us out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, etc!

We're bankrupt & every penny spent overseas would be better-spent in the USA!!! Also, get us out of NATO, the UN, WTO, CAFTA & NAFTA. Of course, any of this won't happen (anytime soon), as both McCain & Obama are both Globalists...

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Craig, Grand Rapids, Michigan — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:50:42 GMT

We need to protect ourselves from Iran A defensive missile site will protect and deter many threats in the world. I wonder why Russia is against us protecting ourselves from Iran? Maybe we should reason with the terrorist supporters and hope,Obama style,that they will be nice.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Philip Lewis, Alamogordo, NM — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:52:47 GMT

I have justed finished reading most of the comments and I am still amazed at just how narrow minded some, even those that are college educators and the well educated, have about life in general. Many in the U.S. live in their tiny little world and make decisions and judgements about how things are and how they they should be handle. Americans pick and chose what they want to believe and then add their feelings into the mix. After they add their feelings into it they then tell everyone that this is the "Verifiable Truth" when in fact it is just their biased and uninformed opinion.
When did America become Imperialistic?
Politicians everywhere take whatever they can to make themselves look good or make others look bad so that they will look good. In other words so that no one will see them as they really are.
As far as fixing things here I took an old saying and added to it: You not only can't see the forest for the trees, you can't see the tree for that little spot on the bark.
You never pay addition to what the effect the problem is having on the "tree, the trees, or the forest. What about the effect they have on that spot on the bark? Too many of us fail to look at and consider the "Big Picture". We also fail to leave our feelings and biased views out while looking at the "Big Picture".
Now will someone explain to me why Wall Street and many people in the military are terrified that Sen Obama will become President?
Why are so many that are affiliated with the military in some way preparing to fight a war on terror here at home?
Please open up your minds and look at the whole picture before you start making the statements that you have.
Sen. Obama is not the one we should have as President and I'm not very happy about Sen. McCain either.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Philadelphia, PA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:53:14 GMT

Poland was not helping Nazis during WW II. Poland was ATTACTED by Nazis. In fact the WW II started on September 1st with Nazis attack on Poland, because Polish government didn't want to satisfy Nazis' demands. The reason why Nazis' concentration camps were located on Polish territory OCUPIED by Natzis is that a lot of Jews lived in Poland before WW II. Number of Poles honored with title "Righteous Among Nations" (bestowed for saving Jews during WW II) is the biggest of all nationalities. Only in occupied Poland the harboring and helping Jews was punished by death.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Steve Johnson, Pittsburgh PA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:55:43 GMT

Russia will continue to be a global threat, as we will see the rise of Communism once more. We must not simply look at next month or even next year, but rather 3 or even 5 years down the road. We must prepare accordingly and elect someone who will provide our nation with a strong defense. We must elect someone that realizes evil must be defeated abroad before we have to challenge it internally. I would concur that we do need to devote a great deal of attention to building a better America and ensuring that those within our borders are taken care of and have a decent living. However, we must not forget the horrific images and consequences of September 11, 2001. We must always remain viligant and steadfast in our resolve to meet the challenges of terrorism, wherever they might occur. As Thomas Jefferson once said, "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." Let's not forget that, and on November 4, 2008 elect someone who will protect us here and abroad; not someone who will tear down our military and make us weak in the eyes of the enemy.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

LC — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:57:28 GMT

We shouldn't be putting this stuff in other countries. Not only is it a hotbed of conflicting interests for the US, but it creates yet more foreign sentiment that the US' role is to be their benefactor.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Martin — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:58:12 GMT

Who cares what the Poles want! Frankly the Poles aren't the ones serving in the US Military. No you are not more closer to Americans then anu other race! I think your racist people and you should never be part of America.

I so many of you have so much jealousy over the Latin people in America and have negative comments to say about us. So stay out of our country we don't need more racist pigs in our country!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

yvonne williams St. Johns Antigua — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:58:13 GMT

please publish my comment Obama is truly the only hope for america now please people it is not a gender issue but an econemic and a health care issue also our troups in iraque our young men are dying daily mothers heart is aking please save our youngsters i am a mother help my boy we do not want to waste our precious tax dollars enymore . yvonne

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

wildweasel, mcguire afb, nj — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:59:06 GMT

Jamie and others---true the Poles fought the ussr longer than other eastern european 'nations'. however, the Baltic nations provided the longest running opposition. Lithuanian partisans kept 5 soviet army divisions tied down well into the late '60s. the other 2 Baltic countries-Estonia and Latvia-were similarly successful.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

RangerDan, White Lake, MI — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:00:54 GMT

Cuban Missile Crisis 1962 in reverse. You could have predicted this reaction from Russia 40 years ago. Bush is revving up the cold war again. Why put missiles that are predicted to not work to defend against missiles that do not exist? The worldwide banking system will jump on it and finance both sides again. Bush's Granddaddy was on banking boards as far back as WWI. Before the Bush's were into oil they were into banking. How many times does this Crook named Bush have to quack before we start calling him a duck? Get a clue America, you've been had.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Petar Bogdanovic — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:03:29 GMT

Message to all Americans: It is always good to hear the other side of the story; CIA is to Russians what KGB is to Americans; If Russia is evil to you, you are evil to Russia....we could go on forever with this. In my personal opinion America's and world's only hope is Obama, a man with great vision, a man that can mobilize,inspire and unite people not only in the States but all around the world. Thanks to international politics of Bush, McCain and people like them America has the worst rating in the history (which Americans don't deserve)among world countries.
That has to change! American foreign Policy including NATO has to be revised. NATO was formed to protect the Western world from USSR(which doesn't exist anymore)..Look what NATO is doing now; suraunding Russia and expanding more and more towards the east. Would you like that if you were in Putin's shoes? If you would, you better go to see doctor right now!
Countries like Slovenia,Albania,Romania,Poland..... should never be accepted in NATO.That has to stop!
At the end: Who cares about Poles?! They have no clue what is happening anyway.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Leah Yarmouth, ME — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:05:38 GMT

It's interesting to read what other people and other countries say about our country(the U.S.). Sometimes I wish that we would portray a better and more positive message and attitude to the world. I agree with Chris Houston, TX.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Jimmie Williams — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:06:55 GMT

For all its worth, even a missle site in Poland would be of little value if Russia wants to take back that country. The USA is too far away to offer any real help if Russia gets a hair up its a$$. Some people don't understand logistics. Look at Georgia, there's nothing we could have done if Russia bombed the entire country but protest at the UN. All that money spent on Poland will be just like the 'Starwars Defence System' which still is a joke

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Quincy, Plano, TX — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:07:42 GMT

For as stingy and selfish as Republicans seem to be, to me anyways, they sure are for promoting better lives for foreign countries. It's as if a hurricane destroyed every home on their block they would prefer to fix their neighbor's home first. And with their neighbor out trying to fix the next neighbor's home, absolutely nothing gets done in their own home. Has anyone seen recent overhead shots of New Orleans lately? Not only was it the biggest natural disaster in recent history, but proof that America will neglect it's own to be involved in conflict in another country. If your roof had a leak and you went to your neighbors house to deal with a conflict between them and their neighbor what would you expect to find when you finally returned home? I know it's a silly metaphor, but it doesn't get more basic in my view. There are millions suffering here in the US and not a single Republican wants to do anything about it. Instead, lets go over and start a war with another country, borrow BILLIONS from China every month to fund it and lie to the American People about it. They're simple and stupid; they'll never know!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

wildweasel mcguire afb, nj — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:09:37 GMT

phil in NM - those of us in the military are terrified of obama for the same reason we were terrified of carter and clinton-they gave us tasks for which proper equipment wasn't maintained or available (iranian hostage rescue) or trained for (somalia, bosnia/kosovo) that resulted in needless loss of life. add to that the disdain that emanated from the white house towards the military during those administrations, and lack of support in pay and conditions, giving rise to a mass exodus not seen since vietnam. in the 90s, much of the battle-ready gear, field equipment, and other critical gear was airlifted to mainland china, which is why flak vests and humvee armor were lacking when we went into iraq.

and you wonder why we cringe at obama-a man who would sit down with a nuclear terrorist (iranian president) with no preconditions. seems to me fdr tried that in 1940 and 1941 with japan. hmmmm i wonder if there's a lesson here.

and fyi-the missle shield is just that. shield is defined by websters (and oxford) as a defensive measure. all it does is eliminate first strike capability. why shouldn't any nation have the right to protect itself from rogues like iran and north korea?

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Archie Haase Lubec Maine — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:09:56 GMT

Having spent many months in Poland and Eastern Europe, what would be a better solution to a possible war would be having an energy policy in the US. Plus --- economic systems that does not colonize and destroy or disrespect other cultures

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Dave, Bellingham, WA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:10:49 GMT

Funny how most Americans are so ignorant of the fact that they live in a pretty secure country like the United States while most of our foreign allies do not. There is always a threat hanging over their head from one country or another and to just say that America should look inward and take care of America while ignoring the rest of the world is nothing but naive. I have done some traveling in my life and I suggest some of these contributers to this blog to do the same as it is a huge world out there and it would not be in your best interest to turn your back on it.
As far as the election goes someone please tell me what experience Obama has to bring to the plate here? The guy is all talk with no substance. McCain has the experience and has a track record of crossing party lines to get things done and he has always been a pain in the the backside as far as Bush goes and that alone gives the man credibility. Palin has more experience leading than Obama does which goes to show how little experience the guy has so why do people look at her and say that frightens them? That she is a step away from the presidency when they want to elect Oboma that has no experience to lead our country, has common sense gone out the window here? I find kind of funny. Anyway Americans wake up as it is a big world out there and more to it than just us.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

maksim FL USA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:13:09 GMT

Those bad russians liberated Poland from Nazis, you want to blame for them staying, blame Stalin not people of Russia

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Vicki Kuczmarski, Jacksonville, Florida — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:13:20 GMT

John Doe must have failed history. My father-in-law was an officer in the Polish army at the beginning of WWII. He was captured by the Russians and was a prisoner of war until Germany invaded Poland and then he became a German prisoner of war and remained so until the end of the war. My mother-in-law at the age of 17 was taken from her home by German officers and sent to Germany to work in a forced labor camp until the end of the war. They were there and experienced it first hand and they would tell you that Poland DID NOT join the Nazis on their mission to exterminate Jews. Get you facts straight John Doe.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Thomas Cipollone, Plymouth, Michigan — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:13:46 GMT

Poland and the United States must remain strong allies and fully cooperate with each other in the defense of Poland and Eastern Europe. Most likely, Poland would still be one of the first area that a Russian army would invade in any aggressive military move toward Western Europe, or toward re-domination of Eastern Europe as it was during the Cold War. Unfortunately, many nations in Western Europe have recently shown that they are no longer staunch allies of the United States, perhaps forgetting that their political and ecomomic freedom today from Cold War- Soviet domination is due in large part to the United States. NATO is still the greatest deterrent to Russian expansion in, and domination of, the region, and a strong Polish/United States military deterrent would only enhance the security of Poland and Eastern Europe. To believe that the new Russia is a passive neighbor not interested in exercising control over its old sphere of influence would be a grave miscalculation for all the new democracies of Eastern Europe, especially Poland.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

wildweasel, mcguire afb, nj — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:14:16 GMT

dan in denver...boy talk about mixing apples and oranges.

the missles the ussr placed in cuba were OFFENSIVE FIRST STRIKE tactical weapons, designed to hit important military, political and commercial targets.

the missle shield going into poland, georgia and other nations is DEFENSIVE, designed to protect against first strikes from places like iran and north korea.

BIG BIG difference.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Scott, Washington, DC — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:19:12 GMT

I love the Poles. A most brave and talented people. I wish Poland would become the 51st state -- then they WOULD be able to vote.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Magdalena — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:23:48 GMT

question to JOHN DOE, SEATTLE, WASHINGTON - ...a country that aided Nazis in the extermination of millions of people... - have you ever bothered to study any history books???? shame on you! and - aren't you brave enough to give your name? shame on you again.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Patrick Engels, Chamberlain, SD — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:27:10 GMT

For those of you who criticize the Slupsk mayor for supporting a plan which could bring economic development to his city, think about how many US cities would jump at the chance for a US military base and the business development which accompanies it. The difference here is that a US city has the consideration that it's their own tax dollars going to support the installation while a Polish city receiving a US military base is like getting free money, kind of a no-brainer.

There have also been comments about how the Polish people aren't voting, therefore don't matter. Understand we are in a global society now and public opinion of our country, its leaders and their policies should be of concern to everyone interested in peaceful, productive relationships around the world. This is particularly true when dealing with our military allies. True friends are a valuable commodity.

Finally, the missile defense system is designed primarily to protect the US and our interests, both at home and abroad. If we happen to help out a couple allies in the process even better. Besides, what would we do without Polish sausage?

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Ursula Chicago, IL — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:27:24 GMT

Mr. Doe:

I suggest you brush on your history before making stereotypical comments that Poland aided the Nazis in the extermination of people. My ancestors who were killed by the Nazis for helping to hide Jews and others might disagree with your statement.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Sherry — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:28:22 GMT

Obama is not the 'true hope for America'... Isolation and turning inward is not the answer. Smart planning which makes us independent in energy will help our economic situation, and making it easier for companies to keep jobs in the US will also help our internal issues, but we mustn't think that that these issues override freedom. If you've never lived without freedom, you won't realize the value of what we have here. The worst day for a homeless person on our streets is better than the best day for many in the world; we have freedom and a safety net if we want it bad enough, but in much of the world the net's not there nor is the freedom or opportunity. Whoever said that (many) Americans are whiners was actualy right and shouldn't have been dismissed, but that's certainly not politically correct at a time like this. The ones who love us in the world realize we have the power to help them be or stay free; the ones who don't have forgotten or don't feel the need for us, but usually their atttitude changes if they are being threatened.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Greg C. — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:28:50 GMT

Here we go again America worrying about someone else's future while wasting our own future in fruitless wars, and building new missle installations in someone else's backyard; and then sending our most important resource our young men and women to protect it while those we are supposed to be protecting take our money and contribute nothing to their own protection. When will the United States realize that while we are spending somewhere in the nnieghborhood of ten billion dollars amonth in Iraq that other ocuntries are taking over our businesses and putting Americans out of work? Whomever will be our next President, my only hope is that their vision will be America and Americans first and once we've secured our economy then we can consider the needs of others. I'm sure Poland is owed a great debt of gratitude for their commitment to world peace, but does it have to be at the expense of our children, while the European Union sits back and divises ways of bringing down the American economy. Do you think?

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Chris Butler, Kansas City, MO — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:29:53 GMT

I just wanted to say "thank you" to my fellow Americans who have responded to this article. I thank you for reminding me why I get depressed when I read interenet discussion forums. I forgot that Americans have a decidedly parochial view. I forgot that Americans loath logical arguments, generally favoring the trusty "illogical emotional attack." It's a strategy that never seems to fail. I forgot that Americans know little of American history and less of world history. I also need to be reminded from time to time that Americans either hate America, or love it but can't articulate why. I thank my fellow citizens for reminding me that we dare not think about issues independent of our two-party system. It sure saves a lot of time if we can avoid thinking in favor of spewing our party's "catch phrase du jour." Finally, thanks for reminding me that it's cool to dismiss an idea from someone that lives in a different country simply because they don't live here. You see, I had forgotten that everyone's my enemy unless proven otherwise. Thanks again everyone!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Bob R — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:31:02 GMT

Friend recently returned said Polish troops in Middle East are intensely loyal, fierce fighters, well-trained and fun-loving. I'd trust them with my back.
They love freedom as much if not more than Americans because they know what the loss of it means.
Probably our #1 ally with the Brits.
Most of you are idiots and have NO clue. Go waste your vote on Obama.
As far as change - be careful what you wish for.
HOPE is for people who don't want to do anything for themselves and get something for nothing.
I HOPE I win the lottery but work in the meantime just on the outside chance I don't win it.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Bill, Virginia Beach, VA. — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:33:00 GMT

We American's often times open our big mouths without knowing the facts about people and other countries.From reading the blogs it is apparent that some are nieve about history. Poland has been one, of a few, of our strongest allies and have stood with us since WW11. If Russia or any other country think they can bully Poland, I advise them to think twice. I am an American and my fiancé, like most polish people, is highly educated and very interested in our political process.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Patrick, Dallas, TX — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:33:54 GMT

Poles are one of our closest allies now. We need to support them any way we can. Also, this country is becoming one of major players in European politics.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

McCain '08 — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:36:42 GMT

England entered WWII after Germany invaded Poland, and then neglected it afterwards. For most of the last 60 years, America's existence was defined by its struggle w/ Communist states, particularly the U.S.S.R. After 1989 America turned attention everywhere else.
Hundreds of years of history show that the West is weakened when they ignore Poland's warnings about Russia.
If there's one FP concern of America, it's aiding dependable alliesagainst shared potential threats.

Ironically, wealthy Americans might be America's worst enemy - just look @ how these people support Barack!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Lauren, Murfreesboro TN — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:49:23 GMT

Thank you to everyone that either paid attention in History class or has first-hand input that the liberal media will not allow over here in the US. The Poles have proven themselves to be a hardy bunch in every issue that they have faced through recent history. They were basically shut out of the USA in the 1930s because FDR turned them away, citing that the US had met its immigration quota for 1933-1934, they fought the Nazis when they invaded in 1939 due to Chamberlain's policy of appeasing Hitler and the Soviets selling them down the river with the Nazi/Soviet pact, and when they were already down, they had to muster enough to fight off the Red Army after both Roosevelt sold them down the river to Stalin when they divied up Europe for post-war occupation (Churchill did so begrudgingly). The Poles are prepping for another Red invasion (call them Russians, but the Soviet Union appears alive and well) and a missile base with American assistance (probably to ease our National conscience because we have to claim FDR) would be in both Poland's and America's best interests, if nothing more than to protect the freedoms that both countries enjoy (theoretically). If not, we will have nothing between the Russians and the Atlantic (since the Germans and British have seemingly lost the will to fight and the French will continue on their pansy tradition of rolling over and playing dead-or whatever the Russians want to play for the day).
And to Russ in IL, American taxpayers have paid for Europe's defenses for 60+ years. It has been the only thing that has kept the world from speaking Russian.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Pani Maria — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:05:01 GMT

The people in Poland do not experience on a daily basis the atrocities of the Republican governance. They do not see corruption, cronnism, conflict of interest, they can care less about upholding American Cosntitution and the balance of power between the executive and legislative branches, and the distortions of the electoral process. For them the more autoritarian the USA the better protected they feel. But for those who cherish the values of freedom for everybody not only for the chosen, and true democracy with checks and balances, where the people count McCain is the nightmare.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

elliot smith, camden, new jersey — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:06:38 GMT

"I think Obama will do the right thing by your country and mine. I understand that you want to be safe and who doesn't, but you have too understand what a missle site could mean and that in itself would not prove to be a good thing."
Linda, Irving, Texas

This is exactly what's wrong with liberals. They want, want, want, & talk, talk, talk, BUT don't ask them to do anything.... especially not when they're filling up their SUV's, buying Starbucks, or over-spending themselves into debt.
John Doe's ignorance is about the only thing which disgusts me more.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

KMART — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:09:05 GMT

I'd rather have a President with experience than one full of rhetoric! I only have 2 days exp in politics so I'm just as qualified as Obama.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Maria — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:10:16 GMT

Dear Steve from Miami:
Wny are you sooo anti-Polish? You know it is a crime to be anti-semitic in this country. You are at the same level towards the Poles. Your comment is pure and simple rasist. Your views represent the boilerplate Stalinist propaganda against Poland, do you realize that?

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Adrian, Tucson, AZ — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:20:42 GMT

This is the time to rebuild our economy and, hopefully, start laying the groundwork to switch from an oil-based to an alternative-energy and more environmentally-concious economy. If we keep expanding our military commitments and paying for it with credit, we are going to lose supremacy and hegemony. Let's fix the serious problems we currently have at home and leave the Poles alone.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Joe, Seattle, Wash — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:25:46 GMT

The Poles are not racists, but we certainly are in this country.. Our press tries to convince us that it's racist for whites to vote AGAINST Obama (by voting for McCain), but when the polls show that 90% of blacks are voting for Obama, there's not a single call of racism... Terrible double standard we have in this country... And if Obama truly cared about racism, he would disclaim the black vote, but he's not. Why? Because he wants to win at all costs... And who will he owe when he's elected???? Think about it, lemmings.....

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

JDavenport, Chicago, IL — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:27:21 GMT

Why do you all make this a "protect Poland" issue? The missile defense system is to be placed in Poland, making that site a target for attacks. The protection that would be provided is no more for Poland than any other European country, so aside from money (and the nice swimming pool??!!), there is no direct benefit to the Poles from this. We can't possibly provide enough military support to thwart a Russian invasion - unless of course we discontinue the wars that have already stretched our military abilities to the max. The MDS (if it works – and imagine finding out it doesn’t) only acts to rejuvenate the cold war. The major threat behind its placement is Iran’s toward Israel. Poland is just a logistical placement that is more secure than places in the Middle East. But this does rattle sabers at Putin & Co. 1000 soldiers and the missile defense system won’t keep Russian tanks from rolling into Poland if that is their goal. Russia won’t be trying to nuke its neighbor and the missile defense system does nothing to stop a ground attack, which is how Russia has always done its warfare.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Melissa Corfield — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:27:57 GMT

We don't need a missle system anywhere. All that is going to do is scare people. You know what happens when people get scared, they get stupid. We need to worry about whats going on here. The Red Cross is broke, they are still housing people from Katrina. Why??? Because our government doesn't care about we the people. They only care what they can take from our wallets. Everyone, VOTE. This is the most important election yet, if you don't vote you can't bring change.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Mark W, Dallas, TX — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:30:18 GMT

Paint me Elitist, but I wish people would spend a little more time brushing up on their history and current events before posting comments. Some basic grammar and spelling wouldn't hurt either.

The missle shield does absolutely nothing to protect Poland, it would be in place to defend OUR borders from missle attack. In return for helping provide us this protection the Poles get a large target painted on their backs by an increasingly aggressive Russia.

If protection of our NATO allies, which already includes Poland and Czech Republic, was our goal we would be better off redeploying our forces and assets in Germany to new bases in these border countries where they might actually do some good against a ground assault by the Russians.

In reality, to bring all of Europe to its knees the Russians need merely turn off their gas pipelines in the middle of Winter.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

One of three lil pig, Tacoma,WA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:31:03 GMT

Oh no!, She had Wolves killed? You have got to be kidding me! There should be inquests and investigations, congressional hearings and some kind of 60 minutes special!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Jen Webb, Minneapolis — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:34:04 GMT

So the Poles love McCain and the Germans love Obama. Too bad both of them (along with half the congress)couldn't be deported to where they are so loved. I'd prefer someone that is pro-USA.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

TC Georgia — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:34:38 GMT

Anybody who thinks that there can't be another World War better wake up. It would be bigger than the last one because technology is far more advanced. The Polish people are alot more aware of this fact since they lived (and died) through the last one. If Obama is elected, we will be one big step closer to a war that will make Iraq look like a rugby game. These radical countries (too many to list) look at Obama as a used car salesman. All talk...talk...talk and no battle tested character. Half this country ought to live in Hollywood, CA because that is the crap they aspire to.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Qiana Williams — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:35:08 GMT

So many false historians here, and the thoughts that are being put on this blog are unbelievable to me. To set up a missle base in Poland is one thing, but to allow themselves to be attacked by Russia is not only jeopardizing their country, but ours as well. After all, you know (unfortunately) that we can never sit by on our hands and watch other countries be attacked.

If you truly think that McCain and Palin are the way to go then I hate to discriminate against one group of people but the Polish thinking is obviously twisted!! Palin is ready to attack Russia because she can "see it from an island in Alaska". She has NO, I repeat NO foreign policy experience. The Republican stance is, and always has been to attack first, ask questions later. If we allow them to take over, Russia will collaborate with China, Iran, and North Korea, and believe me, we will all be doomed. We won't be able to protect our own land, yet alone other European allies. Obama/Biden 08. If we want a secure future for ourselves and our children, the choice is clearly obvious.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Caroline Nowak Goodfriend; Ashburn, VA. — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:37:07 GMT

Recognition of Polish loyalty to America is long overdue. Even the betrayal at the Yalta conference did not turn The Poles against the United States.
My father fought the Russians to free Poland after the occupation by Russia, Germany and Austria for 100 years.
Yes to Poland's Poles to make that big decision now. They need to decide whether the missiles will be protective of their homeland.
I am a patriotic American of Polish descent. I support Senator Barack Obama. Senator John McCain is all over the map. It's as if he is holding his finger in the air to see where the wind is blowing. And picking Palin was the last straw.

Caroline

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

JDavenport, Chicago, IL — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:37:47 GMT

There are plenty of Americans that also know what the loss of freedom means.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Pug Henry — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:40:32 GMT

Poles remember that Germany under Hitler and Stalin Russia attacked Poland from opposite directions east and west at the same time and divided Poland in half between them. This attack was described vividly in the Herman Wouk historical novel Winds of War using the characters Natalie Jastrow and her father who survived the Warsaw ghetto during Nazi occupation.
John McCain is an avid reader and is known for rereading many works of his favorite authors. The favorite author of John McCain is Herman Wouk who has written The Winds of War, War and Remembrance, and the Caine Mutiny. Wouk served as an executive Naval officer aboard a minesweeper during War War II and used that experience in forming the character of Captain Queeg in the Caine Mutiny. Victor Henry the main character in Winds of War and War and Remembrance was a naval officer who became a confidant both to FDR and Harry Truman. FDR and Harry Truman went outside the normal channels of military command and relied on Victor Henry for straight talk advice on how to approach Russia and Germany and Japan prior and during World War II. John McCain sees himself as the Victor Henry character who was a realist in foreign policy and understood the nuances of war and foreign policy better than anyone. John McCain is a realist and more knowledgeable about foreign policy than either Joe Biden or Barack Obama due to his experiences and also just growing up as the son and grandson of Navy admirals. Barack Obama and Joe Biden have no military background between them and do not even have the background to know who to connect with to get straight back channel information. Barack Obama and Joe Biden lack the knowledge to even ask the right questions even if they could line up a current day Pug Henry commander to give them the straight scoop. Herman Wouk wove history into his novels. There is saying that those who do not know history are doomed to repeat history. John McCain knows history and has lived it and will use that knowledge to guide the United States through the tough challenges that we face in the war on terror, radical Islam and dealing with a resurgent Russia.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Polish Canadian, Toronto , Canada — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:41:09 GMT

Why everyone thinks that missile shield is to protect Poland? This is to be build to intercept missiles launched at Western Europe and your beloved USA. Installing these interceptors may and does upset Russia.They (Russians) think and they are probably right, that true reason is to enforce USA military control in this part of the world (Russia and Asia).Having american base in Poland is not a way to defend Poland. As a NATO member( thousands of troops in active battles in Iraq and Afganistan) Poland can and should run this show with own army and not forreigners who's command is in Pentagon.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Pat Smith, Bend Oregon — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:44:26 GMT

I think Obama will have a hard time with racist here too. He well may lose the election based on 10-15 % of our population who would never vote for a black man. Sad but true. We have failed to grow as a country. We still have not been able to put a man character the leading issue for many of a narrow group it will be his color.

All issues aside, I myself am tired of shoot first ask questions later mentality of this administration and a McCain administration that may follow. We are in debt by trillions and owe China, Russia and many other countries who owe our debt notes large pay outs in the coming years. Who do you think they are going to pressure to have things their way? They own us now. Open up your eyes America!! You no longer own your country. It may be brave to spout war slogans but in reality we cannot afford another war we have neither the money or troops or weaponry for such a thing. I am afraid you are on your own Poland, Georgia, etc. we may say we will come to your aid but in reality we would come with empty hands.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Flex — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:45:48 GMT

The Polish people have fallen under the right-wing republican lie, that they'll be safer with Republicans in office. People are really dumb. Bush, a Republican was the president of the U.S. when we had a terrorist invasion, yet he came out on top as a great protector. That reason is dangerously flawed, and that is what most people believed, and still believe. These people are too dumb to vote, and too dumb to have internet access!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

J, Atlanta Georgia — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:46:05 GMT

Ok first of all Poland is Poland, not the U.S. Our vote matters not theirs. At the same time their opinion DOES matter because we are allies and as a human race we must embrace each other to continue to survive. However, I believe many Poles are misinformed, misrepresented, and frankly not privy to the kind of information we have on our candidates. Imagine if Poland had to determine our election. Do any of you think it would be the correct decision?

To Professor Tyler of Boston...
Are you serious? You sound like a Nazi batting for America.

To Vitas G. from New York...
C'mon man this is 2008. We're not in the trenches or the Cold War so snap out of your PTSD and comment intelligently. Thanks

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Z.J. Royal Oak,Michigan — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:46:36 GMT

Oh Well, all of you have some good and some bad in you, I my self have question for all of you, do you have any idea who Obama is? that is Borak Husain Obama? I am not a politysion but I'm voting definitly for McCain he has more experience with world leaders and I tust him much more. Poland on the other hand has a big hart for USA, people you must understand that when we got rid (SORRY)confined American Indians one of the imigrants that came to our USA were Polish peoples. Poland and US are very close, Poland was one of the countries to go with us to fight in Irak as well as Afganistan, Polish solders are losing lives for freedom. Yes Poles have big stake in our election they don't want to see our country to be sold or take by some agresors.
Z.J. Michigan, USA

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Independent, Los Angeles, CA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:48:30 GMT

So Obama wants to test the effectivness before the system is deployed. To what level? Do we actually have to be attacked and use the system from somewhere who knows where and work as advertised before we deploy it to its intended location. Obama's stance is to stall and eventually kill the program because he serves other masters. We have even offered the Russians the oppurtunity to operate the system with and they refused.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Pat Smith, Bend Oregon — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:57:41 GMT

Thanks for the suggestion Bob R. I think I will waste my vote. I am not an idiot. And I do have a clue. I do a lot for myself thank you very much. I have hope and that is what drives me to go on with my life everyday.

I am sure Poles are fine people. I have some Russian friends, some from Croatia and Serbia. We can love all kinds of folks. That is our right and thank God we can still do it.
Freedom is not free. Don't you think we all know that. I think Obama would come to anyone aid if we could. But my friend to get into another shoot first ask questions later war situation is insane. We are a bankrupt nation. What do we pay for all this intervention with.???...more bank notes which China and Russia already hold a great number.

Rupublicans say they will not raise taxes to help reduce the debt but how do we pay or bills and bring down our debt? Could you run your household the way our government is run? We cannot help anyone until we help ourselves right now. We have nothing left to give but empty hands and empty promises.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

whut4 just post me — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:59:49 GMT

Who cares what poland thinks? we already have the ability to defend against any missile attacks. If your reading about any military ability or seeing it on the news, it's not new. We have technology that can intercept any type of missile fired from anywhere, short of a submarine directly in our waters. That's the scariest scenario, a Russian super sub that could pull up on the west and east coast and launch several small nukes. And i'm sure some cool science dudes thought of that and have come up with a solution. The missile defense shield are simply symbols and , in the event of war with russia, could be modified to assualts. This is a deterent to bad behaviour, they know it and so do we.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:00:37 GMT

I think the point is that a racist and ignorant opinion is not a credible one. This is true for the opinions expressed in the article and of the person who said the Poles aided the Nazis as well as the gentleman that thinks Obama will "hand Eastern Europe back to Russia". Most rednecks (whether the trailor park or Wallstreet type) attempt to find some pitiful excuse for not voting for Obama despite their realization that the Republicans have run the country into the toilet. They come up with so many lame excuses--particularly regarding things that I'm certain they never cared (or even heard, since they are clearly not readers) about before. Please be a real men/women and simply admit that you (like Palin) have the sophistication of barbarians.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Andrew, Houston, Texas — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:01:28 GMT

As many Jews collaborated with Germans as Poles, accusation of Poles as German collaborators is the same idea as accusing Jews for the crussification of Jesus Christ. Remember that Poles suffer the highest percentage-wise loses in Second World War (25% of population).

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Brian, Anchorage, AK — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:01:57 GMT

What people don 't understand is that these missiles are flying rocks. There's no warhead or explosive. If I flew it into your house, it would open up a 2 meter hole in the wall. Russia's "fury" at these things is pure posturing, they know darn well that there is no offensive capability to these missiles. They should be built all over the world to finally reduce, or maybe even end, the threat of a nuclear war.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Kurt — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:03:40 GMT

We should stop processing Venezuelan crude today.
Why give them the cash to then screw us with...

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Michael, Buffalo NY — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:10:21 GMT

John Doe of Seattle wrote:

"Yeah, great, now a country that aided the Nazi's in the extermination of millions of people want McCain in. They're credible."

Unfortunately, John Doe is lying. Poland was NOT a willing partner of the Nazis. They were a conquered, occupied land where the Nazis set up their death camps. John Doe should have paid a little more attention in history class.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Bob, Georgia — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:11:46 GMT

Notice that Poland did not ask for the Missile Defense System until the day after the Russians invaded Georgia.

Considering that Russia participated in the first series of partitions of Poland in the 18th century and occupied 45% of Poland's territory in 1939 (of which they never returned), and given the fact that about 1/3rd of Poland's population died during WWII, does anyone wonder why they are suspicious of the Russians?

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Andrzej Lewandowski Perth, Australia — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:14:16 GMT

Greg Portsmouth
Rhethoric question indeed. Do yourself a favour and flick through most of those comments originating from the US and you might agree with my observation.
By the way, what does the fact that I am not native to Australia have to do with anything?
Sometimes it pays to engage grey cells before hitting transmit button

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Polish Obama supporterbkani — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:14:52 GMT

I am Polish and I can assure you these McBush polish supporters are idiots! As a matter of fact, the history of Poland shows how "unsure and undecided nation we are" in terms of what we want and who we are. Now, it's even worse! Where are these idiots coming from bits the hell out of me!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Gregory Mundy, Penn Valley, PA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:15:13 GMT

Why MSNBC ran this story I will never know. Since you're polling countries outside of the US regarding their presidential preferences, why don't you run a story on the vast number of countries that would support Barack Obama? Let's get back to focusing on what's important for this election - good judgment, sound policies, the ability to negotiate and use diplomacy around the globe and force only as a last resort.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Glen, Upstate NY — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:15:19 GMT

The same liberal posters here who lament "It doesn't matter what the Poles think!" are the same ones who celebrate and exclaim "Western Europe loves Obama! We NEED him in Office"

Hypocracy.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

James Rockmart, GA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:31:26 GMT

To Chris Butler, Kansas City, MO

You are welcome!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Chris, Orlando, FL — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:37:15 GMT

"I too fear what the European's fear, expecially the Eastern portion of Europe. A victory for Obama will put an end to the USA involvement in Europe with the new concentration in the Africa and South America.... Bill Hazelip (Sent Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:17 AM)"

Bill,
What has Obama said or done that makes you believe this?

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

SKVAM — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:39:54 GMT

Poland is Catholic. Catholics should take seriously a man's character. Would McCain, who repeatedly betrayed his wife with adultery, have any more fidelity toward Poland? A man who does not understand the most important vows he will take is not to be taken seriously when he vows again. Compare this to Obama, who did keep his sacred vows, staying married to the wife of his youth. Other than that, a nation's power rests upon the solidity of the economy, and Bush and McCain are incompetent in the economy; McCain admitted he was ignorant on the economy. Obama, by building the American economy again will ENSURE American power is available to Poland. Russia, on top of that, will not be intimidated. Diplomacy counts and Bush and McCain are incompetent in diplomacy. Poland, if you value your liberty, think again; Obama is likely a much greater protector of the liberties of free people than the incompetence coming from Bush and McCain.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Steven, San Bruno — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:40:22 GMT

There is no credible evidence from professional sources or otherwise that this shield system will be effective. That being said, what is the point in building it? If you want to have the base there, so that in the future you can have "pre-emptive" strikes against possibly Iran, then I guess it might be a good idea. Actuallly none of this is a good idea if you think about it. Not enough diplomacy is being tried and I think there's too much paranoia about Iran wanting to bomb Israel and so forth. If Israel would stop being terrorists to the Palestians and if the U.S. would stop backing Israel with arms a lot of these problems would maybe not go away, but they would lessen.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

SKVAM — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:42:48 GMT

Jamie, you are completely wrong about Poland fighting the Nazis. Yes, SOME fought. Many were persecuted. However, it is a recorded fact that many Poles gladly received the Nazis and collaborated with them, with small numbers of them, in town after town in murdering Jews, Gypsies, and others. Much of it was for private greed, to get Jewish and other property cheap or free. Read the book "Neighbors" for an idea of how many, many Poles collaborated with Nazis. Many needed no encouragement to persecute, torture and kill their non-Catholic neighbors.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

JDavenport, Chicago, IL — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:49:40 GMT

The missile defense system is a threat to Russia because, in theory, it effectively allows countries to use nukes against Russia without fear of retaliation. The threat of developing this system was a major carrot in the end of the cold war. (the first cold war)

As far as testing the system is concerned, you better be sure the thing works, and no, you don't need an armed nuclear warhead launched by an enemy to test it. You definitely don't want that to be the first test of a multi-billion dollar defense system. But if it fails extreme testing, what good is this technology anymore? Codename: OZ.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Mike, The Great State of TEXAS — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:03:21 GMT

First and for-most, in WWII Germany was considered the route of all evil with incursion of it’s Nazi invasion and oppressive dictatorship, not Poland. The one country (bcuz it is, it’s own country) that helped the Nazi more was in fact the Roman Catholic Church. Ever wonder why the their main church wasn’t ransacked by the Nazi. They helped the Nazi’s in almost eradicating the Jewish people entirely.

This is a little information for the Polish people who think Obama should be President

Ok. So, why is Obama a bad choice for President?

1.) He's willing to negotiate with terrorist and known terrorist nations. That's like spitting in the faces of everyone who died to defend liberty

2.) He will badly weaken and downsize our armed forces, like Clinton did. And you wonder why we didn't have counter-intelligence on these organizations, bcuz Clinton pulled the plug in funding.

3.) He has no real creditable experience in Washington, he just recently was elected to the Senate, and now he wants to leap-frog to the Presidency. That's total reckless abandonment for the office you were voted into by the people who voted for you.

4.) He is part Muslim and his father and cousin are radical Muslims, he was even raised in this environment growing up as a child. So, he will automatically empathize with these terrorist people. Normally, ethnicity would not matter to me, but were at war with these crazed lunatics, so it does matter.

5.) This one is very important, since Obama has never, ever shared or conveyed to his voters, the media, or the general public for that matter, of how he is going to bring about his so-called-"Change". He has arsenal of colorful pretty words that he twines together so eloquently, but actually says absolutely nothing. It's amazing that people are willing to back him up 100% on blind faith alone. Kind of like a new religion. That’s a scary thought!

I have voted for Democrats in the past. I honestly can say, I have a no vote of confidence in Obamas' ability to lead our country into the future.

Vote for McCain / Palin

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Frank Blanco, Washington DC — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:11:58 GMT

wildweasel, yes BUT it only takes five minutes to change it to OFFENSIVE. World-peace is a four-letter word for the USA. Eisenhower warned us about the Military-Industrial-Complex but we paid no attention. Today the number-one-industry in the USA is WAR=Materials-to ANY who can pay. The so called Evil-Empire mentioned by Regan is the USA.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Tom Stroka Salem, Ohio — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:15:15 GMT

Poles were the victims of Nazi extermination and did not the one's who "aided" the nazi in any significant way.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Jane Doe, Atlanta — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:16:10 GMT

Mike in Grand Junction- Have you ever been around an angry black man to even make a ignorant statement such as the one you claim about Obama? Your supporting facts are clearly unresearched and have been proven to not be associated with his policies.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Philip Lewis, Alamogordo, NM — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:18:20 GMT

Wildweesel, I'm retired Air Force and I'm ashamed that my retirement paper work has President Clinton's signature on them.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Jane Doe- Atlanta — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:20:16 GMT

Vita G. Clearly you also need to research your history.... "If americans had lived through something similar, there would only be a republican party"???? I guess the civil rights movement and multiple assasinations of political figures don't account for any type of oppression or count for a historical tragedy? If that is not enough to have lived through maybe you should read about the founding of this country and the days of slavery. It's interesting how you can give credit to situations that only effect you directly to try to prove your point.......

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Philip Lewis, Alamogordo, NM — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:28:52 GMT

Wildweesel you weren't the one I wanted to answer those questions, but I'm glad you did just in case some of the others here didn't know the answer.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Wojtek, Warszawa, Polska — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:39:19 GMT

To all of those who think Poles are racists - first, take a look at your own American history, marked by decades of racism!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Stephen Anthony Flynn, Esquire Phoenix, Arizona — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:44:33 GMT

Gosh there seems to be a lot of paranoia and distrust by many of those who have made comments, but then just because you are paranoid does not mean they aren't out to get you - but who exactly are they? Is it Russia, Iran, radical Islamics or those that are the paranoid ones. I don't see Russia's or Putin's threat as credible, and if the Poles are in favor of a defensive missle installation in their country would it not be a stabilizing element that could help deter possible political or military agression by its presence, especially if Iran goes Nuclear with medium or long range missles, God forbid. This whole issue, it seems to me, needs to be viewed with regard to the status quo and the future, while some regard to the past and history should not be forgotten (Nazism, the Halocaust, ethnic crimes and hatred) these things happened over half a century ago, and their relevance to the future is more limited than the present actual and potential dangers from the new breed of zealots threatening peace and and harmony among nations, now and in the foreseeable future. My father recently passed away at 99 years and he was sharp until the end. As for foreign affairs and president I favor McCain because I think he is more realistic than Obama. I'm unhappy he supported Bush as much as they say he did, and the sooner either Obama or McCain take over from Bush, the sooner there will a vast improvement, because it seems to me Bush and his cronies are intelligence impaired. The second amendment guaranting the right to bear arms, and that life is sacred and begins at conception (actually, of course life is a continum), are important isuues to me, although I don't believe the state should forbide abortion most particularly during the first trimester but that that be a matter of choice by the woman, particularly in instances of rape and of course at any time the mother's life is threatened, and I feel more comfortable with McCain here again. I believe McCain is both a genuine hero and a man of great integrity, and while Obama may be able to speak impassioned oratory, he actually says but very little.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Andy Szmyd, Clinton twp Mi — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:45:14 GMT

I was born in Poland, emigrated to U.S. just before Soviets invaded Poland for so called military operations. This was early in 1981. Talk about a culture shock, on my side, once I entered U.S. soil. The Soviets had no right to Polish territory or to claim that they liberated Poland from the NAZI. They, in fact, attacked Poland at the same time the NAZI did. See some history about Katin. The U.S. turned their back during the Warsaw Pact, where Poland representation was not allowed, and allowed Soviets to claim it as “Protected Territory”, along with east of Berlin and stole more than one third of its territory claiming that they needed to make the border a smoother line. The Eastern Germans can add to what happed under the “Soviet Protection”.
In my opinion, Poland is at the center of Europe, a division line between Eastern and Western Europe. They were always caught in power struggles of other European nations. And no nation in Europe showed them much support during WWII, and the rest is history.
Poland needs an ally, not a promise. Russian new government does not appear to be very friendly, in fact they appear to want to restore the Soviet union, which no countries want to be part of. The missile system is not a threat to Russia, it is, in my opinion, an obstacle in the future plans of Putin to control the flow on energy to western Europe. The system will provide some international political stability in Poland and provide them with means of upgrading their military to modern technology. The western Germany did quite well under U.S. protective presence, and once they became capable of running a stable military of their own they asked the Americans to leave.

Obama and McCain need to continue the support of the system and not get caught up in propaganda talk from a shaky Russian government or those tied to Communism from Poland.

Andy

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Eric, Canada — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:12:51 GMT

Steve, Miami Beach, Florida - only a Jewish person can write something like your comment.
I admit there were cases of hate crimes against Jews in Poland BUT that doesn't represent the country as a whole, there are always bad apples in a pile.
Belive it or not but there were also good people in Germany who opposed WWII, and there were many Jews who collaborated with the Nazis as well to save their own skin.
Explain to me why Orthodox Jews in Israel setup bombs targeted at Messianic Jews who may have a slightly different oppinion but still consider themselves Jewish.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Samuel - Clarksville, TN. — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:13:11 GMT

Here is where many people get side tracked about this missile sheild system in Poland. The Bush people say it is to deter Iran. The Polish are not worried about Iran, but Russia. The question is does the U.S. need this system so close to Russia ? The answer is NO ! Iranian leaders may be talking tough about Israel, but in reality , they know it would be suicide to their nation to launch any first strike against Israel or any other nation. Poland on the other hand, would like anything that adds to their military base, but so would every country worldwide, that lacks in military hardware. What next, a missile base in Somalia ?

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

eagles1776 — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:17:40 GMT

Why must the US always be the policeman to the world? Now that the EU is stronger than ever economically and militarily and we are still PART of NATO why not suggest that Europeans primarily protect Europe and let us take a secondary role for now. If, at some point they need extra help they can ask and we can deliver. Right now we have bigger fish to fry.

Poland fought valliantly in WWII and we should recognize their efforts to win and maintain their freedom. It is THEIR freedom and THEY should be doing the most to keep it. The Poles could build the missile base and use Western missiles, advisors and assistance as needed to make it happen. If you give a man a fish you feed him for a day if he learns to fish he feeds himself for life. The poles need to learn to fish a bit better and if they need help with the net we can help but let's not just start feeding them the fish.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Tim Crumpton,Horn Lake ,ms — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:22:05 GMT

I wish for peace around the world.God bless everyone.The U.S.(we) should mind our own business and quit worring about nukes.We have them.Sad to say we are the only country that has used them.It is time that we fix things here at home.Actually do something now and do it asap.Who are we to say what the world does.I feel we are no longer the good guys,we set a bad example.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Tim Crumpton,Horn Lake ,ms — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:33:43 GMT

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

John Doe, Nashville, Tennessee — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:36:55 GMT

Hello, he signed his name John Doe because he didn't mean what he said. He only said it to push your buttons and I think he succeeded! John Doe gets the last laugh on this one............

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

CARLSBAAD — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:37:34 GMT

Let us install missiles in Poland. The Cold War cost very few American lives and created jobs for millions of Americans in the military/industrial complex(jobs that paid millions in income taxes to Uncle Sam). Cold War II may accomplish the same, creating jobs for millions and taxes to be used to repair/ restore our infrastructure, creating even more jobs. We must prevent Russia's expansion in Eastern Europe. We Americans enjoy "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness". Wouldn't it be wonderful if the whole world could enjoy the same? Regarding Obama/McCain: I am neither a bigot nor a racist but_____"You don't send a boy to do a man's job".

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Philip Lewis, Alamogordo, NM — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:42:08 GMT

Frank Blanco, Washington DC, You don't seem to understand that it takes more than five minutes to turn these defensive missiles to offensive. Those missiles don't have warheads. For them to become offensive the way you think that they will means that they need to have warheads installed. That takes a entirely different type of missile.
Again many of you are making statements based a emotion and not on "all" the facts.
While I was active duty I had dealings with the so called "main stream media". They only tell you what they want you to hear. Talk to as many veterans of the current conflicts as you can and find out what they have witnessed, know, and experienced and see just how much of the truth the media has told you.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Andy Szmyd, Clinton Twp, MI — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:47:30 GMT

eagles1776. Answer the question your self.
Or answer my question. Who is American?
or better yet Define American. The truth is we Americans have family ties to about every one in the world. What would you do if your family lived in a country, that was being run by an Idiot, and was Threatened by him or her. You would ask the U.S. Government for assistance Yes? or No?.
Andy

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Aaron Stein, Chicago, USA — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:26:40 GMT

Fact: Poles did not kill Jews in Poland after or during the war. There is absolutely no evidence to this effect (please cite sources if you make hateful comments). Russion communism was enacted after the war which strongly favoured Jews.

I live in Chicago and must say that Poles are great American patriots who support local business but are also prideful about their heritage. I am ashamed that people who claim to be Americans can be hurtful against a great ally who helped us with the Iraq war and WW2.

I have yet to meet a single Pole who does not support Obama and considers race a factor in this election.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Peter Bednarz, Colorado Springs, Colorado. — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:25:41 GMT

As I said eight years ago; Bush is bad for the nation. He did nothing to stabilize the prices of oil and he and his administration are responsible for the position that we are in today.

I served in the United States Navy, got educated, and now I work on both of the sides of the US, East and West. I am a Polish immigrant. With all that is going on, we do need a new president, hopefully a democrat. Whey? Well, all you have to do is look at the past history of each candidate and you'll know why. There is a reason why history and future are always a constant.

There are alot of people that have no idea what the world history is, more or less, USA, was built by immigrants and they came from all over. Polish people did resist the Nazis', and last time I checked it was about 3 million jews and 3 million poles and others that dies while trying to help the jews escape the ghetto of the Nazi party.

I don't think there is a more greater country then the United States and anyone that knows their history should know that. True, all superpowers do come to an end but only by the hand of those responsible to profit or sell themselves out.

If you have the right people at the right positions at the right time, they will be able to overcome anything and have the discipline and understanding of what needs to be done for the rest of us.

I'm all for the shields in Poland and hope that the next administration will undue what the previous eight years have done.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Tom, Pittsburgh PA — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:25:32 GMT

I am a Polish-American who has been to Poland 10 times including during communism. Poland is a dedicated friend of the USA going back to its founding as a country (for anyone who needs enlightened, type Tadeusz Kościuszko on Wikipedia). Since the US abandoned Poland to Stalin after WWII, it is long overdue for us to step up. The missile shield is strictly speaking not to defend against a Russian attack, but indirectly it will deter Russian aggression. Now that Poland is finally free, nobody will live according to Russian dictates anymore. The Polish gov't signed for the missile shield quickly after Russia invaded Georgia, and for good reason -- Russia thinks it is still the Soviet Union. Poland deserves to be protected by the US. Poland's finest citizens came to the aid of the USA at key points in its history. For any Poles reading this thread, forget the comments of some of my ignorant fellow citizens.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Bill Kutza, Albuquerque, New Mexico — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:32:36 GMT

John, John, John....how sad. To think that someone should be so ignorant of WWII Polish history is astounding. But then, having lived and worked in 71 countries over my career, I've reluctantly become accustomed to this sort of Ugly Americanism. Please don't travel abroad....we're embarrassed enough by our politicians.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Eric Holtzman, Milford, Pennsylvania — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:06:03 GMT

What's all this stuff about the alleged Polish racism?

Smearing a whole people with untruth is bigotry in itself. This is ironic in light of Obama's past association with rev. Wright and with other racist black activists that preach the "Black System of Values," where EVERYTHING revolves around race. Speaking of black racism-on-steroids! I wonder why all those people that decry alleged racism in Poles (or in Caucasians in general) don't subject Obama and his milieu to the same criteria. Isn't that the worst racism of all – to hold blacks to a lower standard of civic expectations?

Prof. Walter Williams (who happens to be black) from George Mason University shows that not all so-called "racism" is racism. He points out that 90% of interracial violent crime is black on white. http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams081899.asp
Assuming that brotherly love does not prompt such hostility, a question arises about violent black racism.

This is relevant because, as much as I've noticed, many (most?) people from Poland initially settle in urban areas in the US, where they are exposed to some of the phenomena that professor Williams describes.

So enough of these gratuitous racial recriminations.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

John Anonymous — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:15:23 GMT

Uh... why so many people acting like the poles have a choice? I'll forgive those of you who are US citizens, but here in other countries our leaders generally sell us out to your officials under the extreme pressure that the US government can bring to bear. We scarcely choose to allow you to build spy bases on our national soil, for monitoring our conversations, for turning up in full FBI regalia at a primary school where the kids discussed making bombs via email. It happens anyway. you're a hegemonic state. Don't be so naive.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

LIBRA, TACOMA WASHINGTON — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:36:34 GMT

Just by reading the comments it shows that people around the world, and especially in this country are concerned for the happenings going in and out of this country. It also shows the bigotry that still exists among us. Whatever ethinicity you are, this presidential race is going to scare the heck out of a lot of people because of the incidents that are going on right now, (ie) oil, mortages, wallstreet, Iraq, failing banks & investment firms, unemployment, and of course outsourcing. Now that is a lot on the plate and that is not all thats going on, but you get the picture, and yet the biggest one of them all is "RACIAL PREJUDICE". Now ain't that a hoot.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

David — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:52:54 GMT

Well, we have a million posts and yet we are still at the issue of whether we (the U.S. )should mind our own business or worry about others. Didn't we argue about this about the last hundred blogs too?

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

RON, ARNOLD, CA — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:09:41 GMT

POLAND DESERVES THE RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF AGAINST A RE-ARMING, SABER RATTLING RUSSIA. GEORGIA, SHOULD WAKE UP ALL THE STATES BORDERING RUSSIA.
DEMOCRACY, LIBERTY AND FREEDOM ARE NOT FREE. THEY COST BLOOD. THE SPINELESS, FLOWER TOTING HIPPIE NEW AGE SECULAR INTELECTUALS WILL ACHIEVE WHAT CHAMBERLIN DID BEFORE THE OUTBREAK OF WWII. POLAND MUST HAVE A DEFENSE. THEY SHOULD DECIDE THEIR OWN DEFENSE. BUT DON'T SAY THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO PUT IN A MISSLE SHIELD. IT IS NOT OFFENSIVE, IT IS DEFENSIVE.
PEACE THRU STRENGTH

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Not Worthy to Talk About — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:12:35 GMT

I would like to recommend some reading to understand us a bit better, please try "God's Playground" by Prof. Norman Davies.
I'am a Pole who just returned from a long stay abroad and I' am and I was there and office worker and a manager. It is not my mission to convince anyone about the choices made by the people picked at random and interviewed for the purpose of the commented article. First of all these are the views of some passers by in the small but noce city that for many years was tormented by high unemployment and poverty. With all respect if there was a similar poll made even in the Washington D.C., suppose you could find many different views there as well, except that I do not think that they would even know where the Poland is.

Lucky you Amies, having an opulence of airports and swimming pools so you do not see anything extraordinary in having them.

Last but not least, shame on you Khristof Zelowska for either you are really ignorant or just dissapointed that you were not capable to emigrate. I can assure you it is not all that pleasant. After all, you have proved being one and only not being worthy to talk about.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Carol Los Angeles, Ca. — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:08:12 GMT

Dan Cee in Colorado. THANK YOU! I remember. How is it that so many don't? Am I so old or is it just that people are not taught History anymore? How would we like Russian missiles in Cuba? How about on the Mexican border? How about in Venezuela? Where are we going to get the money for missiles? Borrow from China again? What if China is worried about our economy and won't lend us the money? I wouldn't lend us any money! We probably won't be able to pay it back. With so many out of work and so many more losing their jobs and income levels down, national intake from taxes will be down. We're broke already. Pretty soon we won't be able to take care of ourselves much less the world. Oh wait, we aren't taking care of ourselves.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Gotta Go — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:58:09 GMT

The Europeans must accept the idea they will be on their own in the next great war. The USA won't be able to help them, because the USA will be destroyed or neutralized first. Kind of ironic, all those Europeans who bash the USA.. who will they call to help them in their next hour of despair?

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

John Doe, Coral Springs, FL — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:14:12 GMT

I agree w/ Carol's Comment. Shouldn't we Fix our Domestic PROBLEMs First. INCLUDING IRAQ. jUST THE FINANCIAL BAILOUT WILL COST $ HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT DUE TO NON-REGULATION BY FEDS & GREED BY BANKERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND WHOSE GOING TO BAIL us out, THE CENTRAL BANK of CHINA, or Japan, or Russia, ALL which ARE FLUSHed w/ TRILLIONS of DOLlars
How WOULD Americans LIKE IT, IF THE RUSSIANS or CHINESE, ALLIED W CANADA and or Mexico, Posted "DeFENSIVE MISSILES TO PROTECT , FOR ex. "CANADA" from Aggression.
I 'm only 32 years old, but a student of history, & economics. WE should respect others as we want them to RESPECT us. Isn't that the "GOLDEN RULE". Or we have lost those values that our Previous Generations
respected.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Hartmut Nagel, Enterprise, Al. — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:44:59 GMT

The much talked about missile shield in Poland is to protect Nato Europe. Let Nato-Eurpoe provide their own defense if even necessary. To keep the peace in east Europe their should be a pact free buffer zone between Nato and Russia. All former Soviet union states should not be invited to join Nato and Russia has to agree to a non-agression/non-invasion pact of those states.The present course is likely to lead to WW3 with China&North Korea backing Russia.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Nate, Bozeman, Montana — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:28:14 GMT

I have a ton of pride in my Polish ancestry, yet cringe to read the naivete of Poles as they imagine the United States has any concern for their safety. Time and time again Poles have placed a blind trust in the promises of other nations - we're kind folks - only to suffer alone in the end. Sadly, the United States government could care less about you, and I'm sorry to say that as an American, our governments only concern is militaristic expansion, and once again the Poles have placed themselves in the role of the duped! I wish you the best of luck, Poland, yet please recognize that neither George Bush or John McCain will ever to come to your aid!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Observer — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:31:16 GMT

We are observing this from across the Atlantic

Most of the WORLD supports Obama & wish WE could vote

America’s Security & Foreign Affairs

McCain/Palin= Aggressive/Pre-conditions/Trigger-Happy
Obama/Biden=Less Aggressive approach/For Negotiating/Not as ready go to war

Economics is not immune to being fickle and economics can be worked on, but economics will not mean a thing to ANYone if, to our horror, WW3 becomes more of a possibility in the not too distant future.

I say: America does not need another WAR-Hero and a Miss Rambo--America just needs a HERO in the White House!

Approx $10 billion a month on the Iraq war, alone: $10 billion x12 =$120 BILLION a year on this war and McCain would be willing to stay another 10 -100 years if so need be? How thick is that?

That money should be going back into the American economy-NOW.
What a sin to spend so much on war, when there is SO much that money could do for the America in so many ways, AND some toward the debt to China. $60 billion a year could go toward paying off that debt and the remainder back into the economy and if everything was back on par after a while, then $100 billion yearly could be paid of the Chinese Debt…whatever…either way, this would be an extra $120 BILLION a year back into the American economy…unless, of course, you feel the need to get involved with yet another war. Pfftt!

1 trillion Iraq War + $700 billion Wall Street bailout + $80 billion Iraq treasury surplus ***WILL AMERICA PLEASE ELECT THE SMART GUY THIS TIME AROUND***

To TC Georgia “look at Obama as a used car salesman. All talk...talk...talk and no battle tested character “

Aren’t they ALL talking, talking, talking…It’s a normal part of any election and when it comes to Obama’s talk, he brings it over articulately, we can listen to him, he talks sense
and he inspires.

I will give you THIS scenario; If I where to look at McCain as a used car salesman, I would turn on my heels and look elsewhere for another car.

As for your “battle tested character” remark---Its funny, I notice that most who have a gripe with Obama seem to be fond the old battle field arena, also. War, War, War.

Here are just some other negative expressions for your “battle”:

=Fight: clash: Conflict: Argument: Confrontation: Fracas: Combat: Scuffle: Mêlée: Fray: Dispute: Row: Skirmish: Brawl: Disturbance: Uproar: Riot: Turbulence: Commotion: Upheaval: Chaos: Turmoil, etc. As Obama has said in relation to all of this, “ENOUGH”

Here are just some POSTIVE expressions for Obama’s “Negotiation”:

= teamwork group effort alliance coalition cooperation give and take: equal: finding the middle ground: bringing together: settlement: ceasefire, etc, etc.

To be honest, negotiation does not always lead to a positive outcome, but it’s a positive start, an EFFORT in trying to sort the negatives out/keep the peace, etc AND…Most normal-headed people would prefer to have this before resorting to mayhem.

Your way of thinking is like all the other McCain voters in that, if we DO have to negotiate, it has to be OUR way, or NO way. In other words…like it or lump it. Well, not everyone takes too kindly to that attitude. It puts up a wall, already. Think your kind just loves to *battle on, regardless of the dire consequences.

In these times, America’s Security & Foreign Affairs could be better; look around the world, anti-American feeling is alive and kicking in parts. The recent tensions between Russia and the USA regarding Georgia have hardly been fully settled AND, I sense there is more to come in that area, alone, (WATCH THIS SPACE).

In a world of troubles…Hesitate and Negotiate, that seems Obama’s way and I like that way.

You Mccain/Palin people prefer to just, *Charge in there*, anywhere and all the time.
Look around you at all the recent tensions going on in different parts of the world as I speak, besides the Wall Street meltdown, all have to do with politics in the literal sense; protesters marching in order for their leaders to step-down, others leaders resigning, new leaders taking office, etc…there IS a political shift going on around the globe and all the while, America just happens to be running a presidential election that has, for the first time, captured the rest of the world. If there is an omen/foreboding of some sort in all of this, we shall probably find out, sooner rather than later.

But in the meantime, you continue to live in denial and won’t listen to reason; to sense… but mark my words, one day you will be in over your heads… which seems to be already unraveling before our eyes in various ways. You will be the cause of your own demise,

So…

Obama is what America AND perhaps the world, needs? My strong intuition tells me...A resounding, YES!!

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Observer — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:40:47 GMT

Eric Holtzman, Milford, Pennsylvania

Re:
“What's all this stuff about the alleged Polish racism”?

You will find others sources on the Internet that contradict your message.
Do a bit more research.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

braveheart123, Chesapeake, VA — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:27:31 GMT

That's fantastic that these people have their own opinion about foreign politics, but I find it rather stupid that some people would rather see a continued decline in the worlds economy just to see a pool and small airport put in close to where they live. Seems not only selfish, but pretty ignorant.

Backing a canditate because you want a public pool and small airport is about as clueless of a choice as voting based on religious views is.
Zak (Sent Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:28 AM)

The Poles are not voting in the USA

???????????????? You better vote on religious views....who wants an atheist for a president.......that would really kill America. I am not saying either Obama or McCain are atheists, but in the future, when there will be an atheist on the ticket, you better not vote for him/her. Atheists, homos, and liberals are killing this country........(sigh) Oh and yes, missile site in Poland is a good idea. Not only for the poles, but for us back here in the US.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Eric, Corpus Christi, TX — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:48:54 GMT

We need to advance our military stance around the globe. Too many countries, even our own allies (France) are willing to walk all over us. Americans are attacked every single day....true statement ask our soldiers and sailors, and this fight is not over. We must secure a strong military future lest we thrown to the wolves and cowards. Speaking of wolves..if you live in a city in southern California, please dont comment on the killing of wolves in Alaska...you dont have the education for it.

For Poles, U.S. election is personal

Tomasz Ronda, Bristol — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:58:00 GMT

I read opinions here that Polish people don't know whats going on with presidential race in US. That is not true and I must say people in Poland know more about current world affairs as well as history than Americans. We just not ignorant , thinking that our country is most important in the world and nothing else matters. No offense.
Second think that strikes me are comments about 'pumping money by US into Poland', related to this 'missile defense system'. As everyone here knows, this system is allegedly to defend US, not Poland. Our government had a hard negotiation with US, trying to get the best deal for us, but believe me, there is not much money involved in that. Its more about getting another ally and another way to strengthen defense of our country. Even if our new ally seem to loosing his power.

Regards