End of an era for Pakistan

ZUBIE, NEW ROCHELLE, NY — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:17:54 GMT

I FEEL SAD TODAY. PERVEZ MUSHARRAF WAS THE BEST PRESIDENT FOR PAKISTAN. THE ECONOMY WAS GOOD AND THE COUNTRY PROSPERED. WITH CORRUPT OFFICIALS COMING ON THE SCENE, I PRAY FOR THE COUNTRY. I WISH MR MUSHARRAF ALL THE BEST. ALLAH WILL REWARD HIM.

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Qusim Mardan Pakistan — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:19:17 GMT

He was the only hope of any success in Pakistan for a common man. Unfortunately, our ignorant people failed to realized once again. Things are much better general elections people with nay education will tell you things are not the same.

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Francisco, Iowa City, IA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:24:30 GMT

Be careful what you wish for.

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Ed, colorado Springs, Colorado — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:32:46 GMT

WoW you got to hand it to him, he could have held on and paralized the country for months to come but did the best thing for the countryand got out of the way.
Maby he was doing the best he knew how and things just got away from him.

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash. — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:41:52 GMT

yay.

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Kamran, NY — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:55:08 GMT

I beleive he was a true leader and a true fighter for his nation. he had a vision and he did whatever he can to acheive that vision. Our corrupt politicians finally overcome there biggest hurdle. I hope we will have piece and prosperity.

End of an era for Pakistan

TI — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:19:49 GMT

The very same corrupt and morally bankrupt people, who were pardoned by Pervez Musharraf, came back with vengeance and forced him out. Well, he has to pay dearly for that very mistake.

End of an era for Pakistan

Seth Levin, New York, NY — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:29:24 GMT

Today is a very dark day for Pakistan, a true hero and the only sensible person in the govt left the stage, this is as worst as the day when the country was divided in two back in 1971. Now those who think that everything will improve in matter of days now that the President is gone will see that the country will sink in a dark hole which the current political leaders are digging for Pakistan. As usual the West used Musharraf for its own agenda and now that he was of no use he was pushed out. Time will tell who was right and who was wrong.

End of an era for Pakistan

Z Irfan — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:31:54 GMT

It is an ironic day for Pakistan. This country can not have a moderate and progressive leader. Pakistan's luck either brings greedy politicians from elite class of industrialist or landowners or Army's generals. Musharaf was an Army general; however, he established institutions for government accountability, future democracy and civilian rule.

Those politicians who were really after him, they would not have been elected if Musharaf had not kept his promise to hold free and fair elections. Not only that, he dropped corruption charges against Benazir Butto's husband who now is dreaming for the very same job.

Lastly, I will say this... I hear a lot from my Pakistani friends that Musharaf is a dictator, he has so much power he can do whatever he feels like such as expelling the Supreme Court judges. I agree that Musharaf was authoritarian and he did get a hold on to power in non-traditional way, coup as opposed to an election. However, he did lead the nation in most turbulent times; he opened up media and focused on improving a common man's life. I ask to my Pakistani friends that what good the democracy did for average working Pakistani during the governments of Benazir Butto and Nawaz Sharif in 90's who were then taking turns in ruling the country. Absolutely nothing except it helped them bankrupt the country, live a lavish lifestyle and fill up their own Swiss bank accounts.

The leader is one who leads by his action and does what he says he will. Musharaf promised to retire from his military post, he did that. He promised to hold free and fair elections, he did that and entire world witnessed it. He promised last year that he will work with the elected government and if the government will not work with him and he will resign. He offered reconciliation and tried to work with new government but in the end we know what happened.

I wish president Musharaf best of luck and thank him for his services to Pakistan both as a soldier on the front line to defend the country a great leader and statesman. None of the politician can ever say that they put their life on the line for Pakistan.

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Muhammed Sheikh — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:40:17 GMT

this is sad, with the General gone the country is lost. Pretty soon these politicians will tear the country apart. The pakistani public is majority uneducated, and they seem to have forgotten the mischief of Bhutto and Sharif. Its a sad day for pakistan.

End of an era for Pakistan

Ramesh Manghirmalani, Danville, California — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:41:34 GMT

It is difficult to avoid the view that Musharraf's resignation amounts to admission of guilt. His principal adversaries - Asif Zardari and Nawaz Sharif, though not perhaps in that order - shall jump on this chance to get rid of him on the cheap. If they were men of substance, they would spurn the offer of resignation and get on with the impeachment proceedings. In fact, they should go ahead with the impeachment proceedings even after the resignation. That will establish how good is the evidence against Musharraf and whether he indeed deserves to be thrown out of the presidency. Since some of the charges were serious, namely, treason, there can be no pardon. He would earn condign punishment. And that punishment shall perhaps be execution - under law. US and Saudi Arabian influence may come into play and prevail upon Zardari and Sharif to let Musharraf go without punishment - resignation itself is humiliation and punishment enough. Now, Musharraf's exit gives the new government an opportunity to prove itself in a manner that enables it to operate to Pakistan's best advantage. They should use this historic opportunity to put Pakistan firmly on its feet. They will also need some farsightedness to avoid temptations to go into alleys of oneupmanship or petty advantage in the field of Pakistan's foreign relations, especially with Afghanistan and India. Zardari seems inclined to convene a conference of regional powers to sort out their mutual problems. This is a course which can be productive of immense good - if Pakistan can avoid sterile areas like insistence that India must hand over Kashmir to Pakistan on a platter. Pakistan needs to abandon its unidimensional foreign policy which revolves around a single issue - Kashmir. Besides, Pakistan needs to cure itself of the proclivity, which it submits to from time to time, of getting the better of India in the military sense in actual war. It has tried war several times in the past and reaped no luck ever. It is unlikely ever to get the better of India militarily. The contrast is glaring: India relies for the most part on its own resources and has enormous economic foundation, while Pakistan has yet to stabilize itself as an economic player and relies for its military power on several external prop-ups. At the same time, Pakistan needs to turn away from its support to terrorism. Much of the rest of the world genuinely believes that Pakistan is indeed epicentre of terrorism. A terrorist strike takes place anywhere in the world and the trail in most cases is traced to Pakistan. So much so that now even its principal supporter, US administration, has begun to speak rather vocally about ISI operatives cooperating with Taliban in Afghanistan. While on the subject, it may be in order to suggest that Pakistan needs to take urgent steps to bring ISI under effective civilian control. Otherwise the situation has all the makings of an actual imperium in imperio which, under a certain leadership, may begin to formulate and implement a parallel foreign policy which may not always be on all fours with the official foreign policy of Pakistan. Finally, the rulers of Pakistan, especially Nawaz Sharif, need to understand that nuclear weapons do not give a country immunity from anything. In spite of Pokhran II and Chagai (both May 1998), Kargil happened but neither side thought of using nuclear weapons. Quite to the contrary, Vajpayee's government exasperated the Pakistani leadership and military to no end by responding in a low key and gave no excuse to Pakistan to launch bigger operations. Not that bigger operations were at all certain to produce better results for it. Musharraf's exit is a tremendous opportunity which the leaders of Pakistan can use for the good of the people of Pakistan. They have an enviable mandate from the people, and now also opportunity unfettered by irritating constraints.

End of an era for Pakistan

sekander ali ursani — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:51:38 GMT

good riddance, hope that pakistan becomes a civil and democratic country

End of an era for Pakistan

Ramesh Manghirmalani, Danville, California — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:52:43 GMT

A quasi dictator's life has come full circle!! Manipulative politics by the military has ended. Damage done to Pakistan as a nation and member of world community will have to be undone swiftly to protect the ordinary Pakistani. The country is on the verge of being declared a 'failed state' due to various circumstances. Thanks to the U.S.A. and Bush regime for having abused the country for vested interest through Mush as their pet leader. The Bush Mush combination created a false sense of euphoria for a few Pakistanis. It is time for the current leadership to become pragmatic and pursue a path of reconciliation within the country and with the world at large especilly India. History has provided the country and their elected leaders a 'blood less' opportunity to set aside the past and forge ahead on the path to democracy. The current leaders have to show statesmanship with love for the people of Pakistan to wipe out the past follies of military interference with religious overtones. Humanity with humility can ensure a bright future for the region as a whole if Pakistan can stand up to the challenge.

End of an era for Pakistan

Mike Hashmi, Plano, TX — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:05:37 GMT

End of wonderful currption less 8 Years and we as American and rest of the world lost best friend and leader who was the only person supporting the international fight against Islamic extremism. There will be another phase of power struggle inside Pakistan between current allies (Both of them are convicted by court of law for curreption and money loundring.)

Good luck and best of wish for Pakistani Poor people.

Mike Hahsmi

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KEN, DENVER,CO — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:14:56 GMT

BEST THINGS WILL HAPPEN TO PAKISTAN NOW.DON'T EVER UNDERESTIMATE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN.

End of an era for Pakistan

Satright Talk — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:16:31 GMT

Democracy in Pakistan has failed because of the corrupt democratic leaders in that country. The two main democratic parties in Pakistan have been tried many times in the past and all they have done is to make money and take revenge against each other, and leave the country before they would be tried for bringing the country into political and economic turmoil.

US and others, have to ask themselves a question - When leaders are not honest with thier own countries, how and why they can be trusted to fight a war against terrorism.

Musharraf, despite his dubious past was the best option available to bring the country some stability and more importantly get rid of extremist mentality.

End of an era for Pakistan

Bill — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:17:00 GMT

This isjust another sign that anyone attached to the coat tails of one George Bush is unlikely to be well recieved. Musharraf was supposedly threatened with destruction by the Bush White House if he didn't sign on to the "war on terror"...he did and look what it got him! This administration has ruined the US brand and repututation in every corner of the globe. Russia is thumbing its nose at Bush because they know there is nothing he can do about its invasion of Georgia. These neo-cons will never learn that you can't rule by force or intimidation - unless you have the forces to back it up - and we don't!

End of an era for Pakistan

izuber, Karachi, Pakistan — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:28:15 GMT

The era of Musharraf's may have ended, but the era of so-called Pakistani style democracy is not coming to an end anytime in the near future, specially with the thugs Asif Percent Zardari & Nawaz Not-so Sharif struggling for the control of Pakistan.
They both have snatched all they could have in their past eras and yet wish for more, fooling the public with their display for democracy while continuing to benefit themselves and their cronies they will continue to snatch what if anything is left over in the treasury of Pakistan.
One represents himself as a Bhutto without being a Bhutto and the other was conceived by another military ruler who brought him up throughout his career and placed him in the reins of govt.
People of Pakistan seek a normal life with food & shelter being accessible while these politicians who are merely no more than thugs continue to rip off country.
It is these politicians who are principally responsible for raising all the disputes among the various ethnics of Pakistan and that too to benefit themselves while people become busy fighting against each other.
May God the Almighty rid us of all these thugs and dacoits forever, amen.

End of an era for Pakistan

EJAZ REHMAN BIRMINGHAM UK — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:30:23 GMT

HOPE AFTER DEPARTURE OF PERVAIZ MUSHARAF ,NEW LEADERSHIP WILL EMPHASISE ON ALL SIDES OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT ECONOMOIC DEVELOPMENT IS DEPENDENT ON HIGHLY SKILLED MANPOWER AND CLEAR GOVERNMENT POLICIES.THIS IS HIGH TIME THAT IN THIS MODERN GLOBAL VILLAGE ,WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ACCUMULATED EXPERIENCE OF WORLD,S GREAT ECONOMIES AND TRAIN OUR PEOPLE TO DO SAME WONDERS.

End of an era for Pakistan

Sam P... Merced, CA USA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:31:32 GMT

True, leader and states man. He should be recommended to receive the "Nobel Peace Price". By no means a perfect leader during his time; him stepping down will prevent/save potential political bloodshed. The West should welcome him should he need a home..He's a model for current leaders to emulate.

End of an era for Pakistan

Mohamed MALLECK, Toronto, Canada — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:34:37 GMT

There is no doubt that President Pervez Musharraf did much good for the Pakistani people and the polity generally, but he also blundered. The firm hand but overall measured force with which he dealt with insurgency and unrest in the NWFP and other tribal areas, the considerable stimulus his administration gave to the economy, the leap forward that his education reforms gave to social progress are all no doubt laudable, while the very fact that General Kayani has refrained from indtervening in the poltical turmoil that his impending impeachment semed to threaten is a tribute also to his good judgement in the choice of the man to lead the army and the new ethos, it will later be revealed, that Musharraf himself breathed into army disciplne, even if that did not serve him in the way that would have secured him a fully dignified exit. However, his greatest blunder was to have sacked the judges even before they actually moved gainst hin : had he waited and manoeuvred to catch the judges in a wrong move that would have threatened Pakistan's stabilty, even that sacking could have received acceptance from the Pakistani people, if he then simultaneously moved to allow Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Shariff to return and struck a deal with Benazir.
But, when the blunder of that sacking was followed by the assassination of Benazir by extremists, his fate was sealed.

History will not deliver a 'what-if' unequivocal judgement that a Benazir/Musharraf duo and transition would have fulfilled for Pakistan the dream that most well-wishers entertained at the time that the Musharraf/Benazir duo would have done for Pakistan, within the compressed time-frame that the urgency of the situation called for, what Ataturk/Tansu Ciller/Recep Teyyib Erdogan achieved in a longer time-span for Turkey.

My prayer as a non-Pakistani Muslim is that Asif Zardari, General Kayani, Nawaz Shariff, Judge Chaudhri, the traditional leaders in NWFP and Baluchistan, and other figures such as Imran Khan and Fatima Bhutto all join their efforts to fulfill that dream of a fast-forward play of a Turkey-type modernisation of Pakistan.

End of an era for Pakistan

KA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:34:51 GMT

EVENTUALLY ARMY WILL SAVE THE COUNTRY FROM CORRUPT PEOPLE, THESE ELECTED PEOPLE ARE ILLETRATE AND ARE FOR THEIR BENEFIT, POOR PAKISTANI PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM WILL REALIZE SOON.

End of an era for Pakistan

Aamir Abbas — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:37:25 GMT

yes ! he was a true hero ! he lived like a hero and left like a hero! love u Musharaf ! GOD bless u !

End of an era for Pakistan

Rob, San Diego, CA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:47:59 GMT

Now all we need is most of the rest of the worlds so called leaders to follow suit.

End of an era for Pakistan

Maha,Fremont ,CA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:52:17 GMT

After the Sad Departure of ''SIR PERVAIZ MUSHARAf", Its Only GOD how can help PAKISTAN.Due to pakistani's lack of sensibilty , ability to Vision , Sense of Right and Wrong,We have lost THE most Worthy , Realible , Honest and Courageous Leader .

Sooner or Later Pakistan And Pakistani's will realize the impact of such loss .This loss has an ever lasting effects.And will remain for Ever.

As of today we have no one to look up to ....

I Saluate to Sir Musharaf for all every thing he opted in his era to show a path to our lost Nation .

End of an era for Pakistan

Gul Faraz — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:57:34 GMT

Expected end to the person from middle class background without piles of money, the ultra rich family based political parties can never stand such a person to hurdle in their accumulating more money/influence agenda, all major News Channel in Pakistan are directly or indirectly under control of these political parties and their agents, therfore foolishness of masses cannot be blamed.

End of an era for Pakistan

SYED RIZVI, Calgary, AB, Canada. — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:01:58 GMT

This is a sad end of a leader who inspite of his drawbacks did best for a common Pakistani which the previous so called demoratic governments of Benazir and Nawaz Sharif failed to do and again they will because the beginning tells the end. Now if they do resotre justice Iftikhar and others and take a firm step to curb turmoil in the tribal areas and NWFP;also check incidences of suicide bobbings and improve common man's lot within few months after Musharraf, then and then only nation can hope something better from them. In the end it can be said that Musharraf dug his own grave by by pardoning Benazir, Zardari and the Shareef brothers. They are proven currupt persons and misusers of power.
God bless Musharraf. He was better than all his predecessors; civilians as well as military dictators.

End of an era for Pakistan

ptbm, Karachi, Pakistan — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:02:55 GMT

Martial Law is better than corrupted democracy.
I am saying this,a Pakistani who lives here, not like Bilawal Zardari, Asif Zardari or any sharif who spent more of thier lives outside Pakistan and come back to RULE over people of Pakistan.

End of an era for Pakistan

SYED RIZVI, Calgary, AB, Canada. — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:06:01 GMT

End of an era for Pakistan

Asma Mirza, Karachi-PK — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:07:49 GMT

The Fall of the Military Regime in Pakistan

I on behalf of the Pakistani nation and the allies of democracy wish Pakistan a smooth sail ahead. Thank goodness the power is restored to the common men. People of Pakistan are not bad and neither is the country but its people like Musharaf who put a bad name to all us Pakistanies. The country that got its existence because of providing equal oppertunity to the common men be it of any color/creed or religion. The country Pakistan and its people are one of the most amazing nations prevailing on this globe so Long Live Pakistan ... A nation just got back on the track to democracy. Long Live Democracy. Long Live Benazir Bhutto, a dreamer who dreamt prosperous Pakistan, peaceful Pakistan and ever loving Pakistan!
We welcome the step down of dictatorship paving path to democracy since democracy is the best revenge!

End of an era for Pakistan

Khan, NYC, NY — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:17:04 GMT

In my point of view, this is a sad day for Pakistan when two corrupt politicians who in there lifetime cannot achieve what Musharref has done for his country forces him to resigne not by a threat of impeachment but the threat of uncertainty for the country which Mussarref himself has worked on so hard in these past 9 yrs to improve. Although there were some misdoings on his part which in my perspective were not totally under his control but more likely due to outside influence. Are pakistanis truley blind when it comes to support of there political parties even with such obvious evidence against there leaders corruption and misdiongs while in power.A leader of a party who's nickname is Mr 10% man and another who built an empire while he had nothing before taking public office. This country will never reach its potental unless they bring in some new faces and idea's to rid them of these dynasties who time and time again dissapoint their people. And in the time of need we as such a great nation show how we stand by someone who has given so much for our cause. I think in days to come the nation of Pakistan will regret more and more there of letting such an asset go.

End of an era for Pakistan

Akber A. Kassam. New-York City, New York. — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:17:14 GMT

Situation in Pakistan will not change, no matter who took the power, unless and until they don't stop the corruptions, and these so=called politicians stop taking poor pakistani's money and take out from the country. This so=called Mr. 10% [Zardari] is very expert in these kinds of dealings.!!!!

End of an era for Pakistan

nadeem, San Francisco, California — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:29:50 GMT

Indeed a sad day for Pakistan! The irony is that Pakistani people have the experience of this coalition before.... each of the party ruled twice and left country in worst shape than ever!

Civilian government in Pakistan is in power for more than half year already! They have failed to counter insurgency and cross boarder inflitration from Pakistan to Afghanistan. Now, the big question is how they are going to deliver what they have promised to international community because so far there is no progress fighting extremism!

Economy of the country is going down with 24 percent inflation rate. Food and gas prices out of control.

Power shortage through out country for hours messing lives of civilians and disturbed businesses.

Lets see how far they go before Pakistani people through them out and US gets fad up asking them to do more!!!

End of an era for Pakistan

Rizwan, San Francisco CA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:37:40 GMT

All of you Musharraf supporters go to www.longlivemusharraf.com to express you feelings.

Long live Musharraf
Long Live Pakistan

End of an era for Pakistan

John, NJ, USA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:44:38 GMT

I guess bush has a big problem. earlier he had to threat one guy, now he need to threat two guys (Asif zardari and Nawaz sharif). see who wins and how pakistani guys test the demokracy!

End of an era for Pakistan

Ahmed, Miami, FL — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:45:51 GMT

General Musharaf was a honest leader who led Pakistan thru some its most difficult times. With the Govt in the hands of thugs Asif Zardari & Nawaz Shariff it will be difficult time ahead for Pakistan. God! will ultimately save this country from becomming a Failed State.

End of an era for Pakistan

Iqbal Akhtar — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:46:24 GMT

It is a very sad day for Pakistan, that President Parvez Musharraf had to resign.
The country has gone back into the hands of the crooks who had plundered the country before and will plunder it again.
If the world would just keep their noses out of Pakistan's Internal affairs we would just do fine. Why is democracy so important? Only 30% of the people turned out to vote. Out of those 30% the PPP got about 35%. That is less than 10% of the people who could vote. The party which is now the ruling party was elected by less than 10% of the people who could vote. I do not call this democracy.
Benazir Bhutto in her will left the PPP into the hands of her 18 year old son. That is not democracy, it's feudalism. This guy can't even speak urdu. He is studying in Oxford. What does he know about Pakistan? What does he know or care about the problems of the common people of our beloved Pakistan. As for his father Mr. Zardari. Not long ago his title was Mr. 10%. Long Live President Musharraf, Long Live Pakistan.

End of an era for Pakistan

John, LA, CA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:04:54 GMT

Corrup politician is better than good dictator. In democratic country atleast you can change leader by vote but not with dictator. Paki will never learn the power of vote. India has also full of corrupt and coork politician. Still they are better-off than Pakistan. And give their limited verdict every 5 years. Wake-up guys/gals and fight for your own country.

End of an era for Pakistan

Hassan Syed, Toronto, Ontario — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:10:13 GMT

ALL leaders of Pakistan are corrupt. Musharraf was not! and he did everything for his country, not for any personal benefit. For the fourth time in the 60 year history of Pakistan, he had to declare Martial Law, and this time it was necessary, because of the corrupt leaders like Nawaz and Butto. The way Musharraf dictated and lead the country was undemocratic but that was the only way to run Pakistan at that given time due to the global situation. Musharraf did the best even though it was undemocratic. From today we begin another era of corruption in Pakistan. God Bless!!!

End of an era for Pakistan

Ron Khan Westlake ohio — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:20:34 GMT

This is going to be very tough time for Pakistanis as now they are left with either Shariff's or Bhutto's /Zardaris. Both these families are re-known for their corruption, favoritism and incompetence. They have never been able to deliver anything either to lower class or middle class. Unfortunately, Musharaf also ensured that there is no politician that can be groomed to take leadership for nationals of Pakistan.
I lived in Pakistan during tenure's of both these families and let me tell you that things were worst that it was now under this dictator. It was very confusing times for me being an advocate of democracy and appreciating dictatorship but one needs to understand socio political culture of Pakistan prior to stereotyping advocacy of democracy.
Terrorism and Agencies interference (US and Pakistani) has completely deprived Pakistanis of thier basic needs and a person like me who was making over 15,000 USD a month in Pakistan decided to leave the country to make half of it in US.
It is imperative that civic societies stand up or create a forum where nationalism and only nationalism is promoted. Hypocricy should be penalized at all levels and basic living requirements are enforced on others to improve the next generation. I know that no model can be duplicated for a country like Pakistan but at least there should be an adoption system for Best Practices.

End of an era for Pakistan

Leonard F> Jobe, Boyd County, Kentucky — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:30:19 GMT

Osama Bin Hidin' still has safe passage in Pakistan. The resignation will be followed by another tyrant of less/worse character than Musharaf.His suspected/known part in the death of Benazir Bhutto and his enability/unwillingness to deal effectively with Osama was his downfall, and rightfully so.

End of an era for Pakistan

Naheed,CA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:31:02 GMT

well done Zardari and Mush...you both proved once again that you are above Law no matter what.Both provided Safe Exists to each others in a very clever manner....Zardari Mr 10% became Mr 30% in Benazir government...and Mush together with shukath aziz plunder Pakistan....who says pakistan came to being for the poor muslims...infact Pakistan is the country made by the upper class to serve the upper class..and stupid pakistanis are faciliting it in all respect.

End of an era for Pakistan

Babar Shahzad...Herndon, VA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:33:44 GMT

WAKE UP PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN>>>>> DONT CARE MUSHARAF IS GONE BUT WHAT POLITICIANS ARE YOU LEFT WITH.... THE POLITICIANS WHO HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING POSITIVE FOR THE COUNTRY>>>> ALL THEY DID WAS HAVE CASES AGAINST THEM FOR CORRUPTION>>>> NOTHING BUT BEING BULLY>>> WAKE WAKE.... HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN MR.10 percent... have you forgotten the traitor in kargil...our own prime ministor...I GUESS I DONT HAVE TO REMIND YOU GUYS>>> THEY ARE BACK AND ELECTED BY YOU...
People are forgetting that Musharaf brought economic growth in Pakistan. He tried to get rid of corruption that was brought in by PPP and ML - N. But I guess b/c of lack of education corruption won again.

I am so amazed that non of the ppl in Pakistan has ever asked there newly elected govt, what is the definition of Democracy for Pakistan. B/c they havent laid out a plan to help bring opportunities, better way life to ppl in pakistan... they are crying over there own political agendas... PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN THEY HAVE DELIEVERD ANYTHING FOR YOU...WAKE UP

End of an era for Pakistan

D. Hull — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:46:57 GMT

Maybe watching the Olympics taught this dictator to play by the rules,and be a good sport and admit defeat gracfully. Now he needs to accept defeat and live with the results of his actions.

End of an era for Pakistan

Dr RAZA ASKARI — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:47:27 GMT

MUSHARRAF OUR GREATEST HERO.HE DEDICATED HIS LIFE FOR PAKISTAN.PAKISTAN FIRST HIS MOTTO AND HE STOOD BY IT.HE SACRIFICED EVERYTHING FOR THE COUNTRY.FROM CHILDHOOD HE SACRIFICED WHEN HIS FAMILY MIGRATED FROM INDIA TO PAKISTAN.FOUGHT WARS.STABILIZED ECONOMY,RAISED OUR PRESTIGE IN THE COMITY OF NATIONS
AND IN THE END HE EVEN SACRIFICED HIS PRESIDENCY
NAWAZ(THUG & PLUNDERER)& ZARDARI(MURDERER OF BB & ROBBER)WILL SINK THIS COUNTRY TO NEW DEPTHS.GOD SAVE PAKISTAN FROM THESE LOOTERS
PAKISTAN & PAKISTANIS WILL REGRET THIS DAY AND LOOSING SUCH A GREAT HERO
LONG LIVE MUSHARRAF
LONG LIVE PAKISTAN

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Khurram Sheikh, Minnesota, USA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:51:01 GMT

Today is one of the sadest days in the history of Pakistan. President Musharaf sacrificed to save the country although 52-2B could have easily been used and he could have let these Jokers like PML and PPP out of power with one signature like other presidents have done but he decided what was best for Pakistan. Its truly a loss for Pakistan and Not for President Musharaf. He had said, "Sub say pelay Pakistan" and he proved it again and again....May Allah Bless him and thank you Sir for all your hard work to build a future for Pakistan which I fear will be taken away due to these corrupt Politicians.
Your name will be remembered as the True LEADER in the history of Pakistan. Very soon people will be saying, "We only missed you once you were gone".

End of an era for Pakistan

Saeed Ahmad — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:56:16 GMT

Thanks God his dictorship period is over and he is the murderer of Nowab Boogitee and his family he suppose to bring in to the justice system to give him death penalty. Amine

End of an era for Pakistan

Paki, Mississauga, Canada — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:04:04 GMT

I am not a supporter of dictators but never the less Musharaf was elected by a sovreign parliment. His resignation may bring joy to his foes but his departure brings bigger disaster with leaders like Asif Zardari at the helm of affairs.KUDOS Nawaz Sharif you have taken your revenge. What next????? I don't see the present coalition government giving any relief to the common man even if it stays in power for the next fifty years. They are a bunch of most corrupt leaders Pakistan has ever had in history.

End of an era for Pakistan

Kamran — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:16:50 GMT

I hate knowing that people like Shariff and Zardari are running Pakistan. Its a scary thought knowing these two are corrupt and criminal minded and whom have NEVER done anything FOR Pakistan, just for themselvs and their families. Its a sad day.

End of an era for Pakistan

uzma,plattsburgh,ny — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:18:57 GMT

hurray for democracy!!! we know pakistan has a long way to go but having an elected government is the most important thing. And yes we know that it will take a few elections before we get an honest elected government from top to bottom but the this was a start of that process and i hope that our pakistani people are ready for a long struggle. we all know that the politicians in Pakistan right now are not really honest but we will have to do with them for now until through the process of democracy we can get there. we just need to be patient.

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VS AGL,Chicago-il — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:20:09 GMT

If all these third world countries would stop acting like animals the world would be a better place to live in.

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Jeanne, Orlando, Florida — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:20:29 GMT

So the radical Islamists won! Chaos will follow, as it always has. Only God can help Pakistan survive without a good man at the helm.

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Mike Hashmi, Plano, TX — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:39:29 GMT

Please don't get me wrong, It looks like Mr. Musharraf's era was ended today. But actually real loser with this unfortunate incident are "common People of Pakistan". He is man of vision,and he did best for this country for the past 8 and half years.
Now Pakistani have to deal with these corrupt and vision less so called "Leaders" who have no vision at all except create few new Still companies, open few more new bank account abroad and give their four or five generations to posh life in London, Paris or in New York. He can't go away from Pakistan, because he have no bank account outside of Pakistan, He can't live outside of Pakistan, because he never bought home or luxury appartment in London or New York.

Very sad day for peace loving People all over the world who don't like to see world fall in to wrong hand who have no vision then religious extremism. God help us to fight against Islamic extremism and those element who want to destroy peace and prosperity of any sovereign nation on eart.

Mr. Musharraf, Your the best to come for this nation, but they did not realize your passion for country and your vision for prosperity for this country. But we will remember you as honest leader of this country.
A loyal and good friend for American/Pakistani who risk his own life against religious extremism in Pakistan.

Wishing best for Pakistani.

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texas — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:43:22 GMT

We can now fully expect to be invading Pakistan too. The terrorists are already there, hiding. Now they will not hide but come out and cause serious issues. It's will be a place of lawlessness, and corruption.

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kashif,chicago, il — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:48:07 GMT

This is one sad day. The general helped Pakistan in more ways as compared to the two thugs that are fighting for his seat. To the people of Pakistan i would only say that they are Jahil, total Jahil, fair elections were held, it was time to elect somebody with a clean background, yet who won, the corrupt people like Zardari and Nawaz. I pray for the country and for the people who have no sense left in them. I feel ashamed of the people of Pakistan. (mind you i am a Pakistani too).

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Sonia Rao, Osage Beach, MO — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:04:53 GMT

Today is the start of a new beginning. I don't understand why people say this is a sad day for Pakistan. Musharraf was a currupt politician who was greedy for continuous power. I do admit that he has helped the economy of Pakistan and has other acommplishments. He has not responded much to the Taliban. His country harbors and has supported the Taliban and other terrorists since the late 1990's. He was tied to Benezair Bhutto assassination. And by tied I mean he could have provided her with more security. The Pakistani people know this and where outraged. They were even more outraged when they heard the U.S. supports Musharraf. So know the Pakistani people dislike us. Why did we support him? Why should he continue to rule Pakistan when 75% of the Pakistani people don't support him? He is in exil ein Saudi Arabia now, a country which also harbors adn protects terrorists.
It won't be easy but now the Pakistani people can have a real chance at freedom.

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Umar Gandoo — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:17:14 GMT

Musharraf was the Best President Pakistan has seen. Hats off to his 8 years of service. The only mistake he made was to bring the Thief of Sind (Mr. 10%), and the Thief of Lahore (Navaz) back to Pakistan and the promulgation of NRO. These guys will loot and plunder one more time and leave Pakistan when it gets bankrupt.

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UMAR — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:22:10 GMT

It was interesting reading all these blogs, comments from pakistanis and no pakistanis alike.I too am ver heart broken and sad after reading and hearing about PRESIDENT MUSHARRAF's resignation.I have lived in Pakistan and seen with my own eyes how these so called leaders of ours(Mr Percent and Mr Not so Shariff ) how they plundered the nation.Mr Shariff and Family have the history of corruption when the were just bussiness men,todate they still owe the nation a TRAIN ENGINE and the ENGINE DRIVER , what happened to the Driver, He was thrown ibnto the large iron smelter along with the Train Engine, are we as nation going to let these kind of rutheless ,vicious people rule the country our nation?Rumors are that Zardari had his wife assinated ,why because had she come into power again, he would have been NOBODY as he was before, he did not want to be the second string or the second fiddle to his wife,he is a power hungry maniac, who will do anythingh to obtain it. My hats off to the President , he knowingly what he was getting into,pardoned these notorious thugs of the Century on behest of USA N Saudia Arabia. Have these nations come to his rescue NO NO NO NO . WHAT A SHAME ? He Nawaz seems to be showing bad eyes to his benefactors namely Saudia Arabia, who gave him a place to stay dring exile, that very nation came to Pres.Mushraff to give him a safe passage out of Pakistan and not to try him for treason, Shame on you NAWAZ for not listening to His Excellency in asking for the same for Pres. Musharraf.SHAME ON YOU NAWAZ. People of Pakistan are the best people in the WORLD , they deserve the BEST OF THE LEADERSHIP AND NOT CORRUPT SWINDLING<THUGHS< NON EDUCATED POLITICIANS,hoarders of wealth, even our beaurucrats are the most corrupt ones in the world.What we need tyo do is weed the roots of corruption from our soil and BANISH these people for all times sake. Not people like PRESIDENT MUSSARRAF, A TRUE POLITICIAN/STATEMAN,A GREAT SOLDIER & A TRUE SON OF THE SOIL OF PAKISTAN. long live mussaraff.MAY ALLAH PAK KEEP YOU FROM HARMS WAY. MAY YOU LIVE TO SEE THESE HOODLUMS(NAWAZ AND ZARDARI) BEING TAKEN TO TASK BY THE VERY PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN THAT ARE REJOICING TODAY,AMEEN

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Thomas George — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:34:40 GMT

A complete & utter sellout.... he was either a knowing participant in the 911 attacks or he was a dupe who covered up his and Pakistan's role in the attacks.....As an American I lothe him for 911 and his help to the criminal neocon gang that took over the White House and set out to destroy the rule of law and OUR CONSTITUTION.......Musharraf took a lesson from Bush: The abrogation of the rule of law as HIS divine right. When he dismissed the high court judges he committed an obscenity to the rule of law and the constitution of Pakistan.

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Asif Majeed — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:46:18 GMT

It is a very sad day for Pakistan. It is a shame that the one man who did so much for the country was hounded out. What an ungrateful nation. Pakistanis don't realize how much the country prospered under Musharaff. He took the country from the brink of disaster brought on by the crooks like Sharif and Bhutto. Now very sadly the same crooks are in charge. Only God can help Pakistan. I only hope the press will go just as hard on these crocked politicians as they did on Musharaff, and in most cases unfairly. Now that Musharaff is gone, Pakistanis will realize how big a blunder they have made.

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Zaheer Malik — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:46:50 GMT

There has never been a time period in the history of pakistan where there has been as much freedom as given by Musharaf. yes, there was someting wrong with him, he could not help it, he was born on the other side of the border.And this is something pakistanis did not forgive.

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Fahad, Karachi — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:47:53 GMT

LOL on everyone who says smooth sail n wutever ... I can clearly see a downfall with all the tested cartoons put back in power. The nation WILL miss Musharraf. I cant even believe how ppl can be ignorant enough to see that US$'s worth stayed around 60 61 n 62 Rs. for 9 years and just within the last 4 5 months it got as high as above 77 Rs. ... like Mush said in his speach ... and shame on all of you enjoying broadbands and free and big mouths which you cudnt have enjoyed had it not been for this very Pervaiz Musharraf.

u guys see democracy?
I see a downfall someone predicted about the country in 2011 comming to reality.

And above all .. all the allegations on him were political and none have anything to do with the people of Pakistan. We only got a lil more prosper and stable ... that was a new experience now ... was it not? ... no ??? you will miss it now if God doesnt come and help us YET AGAIN ... cuz the attitude of the people isnt wut could make the country survive for this long in the first place. Itsa real God's sign that we are still here. Because clearly the people living here are too stupid to survive this long without devine intervention.

I wonder how long would it take Gen. Kiyani to now come and dissolve the Govt. LOL ... He better be quick!!!

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LOVIE — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:50:36 GMT

ANYONE WANT TO BUY A ABOMB--PAKISTAN WILL SOON HAVE SOME FOR SALE--MOST LIKELY TO THE TALIBAN--IRAN OR WHO EVER HAS THE CASH.

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Durgesh Nandan — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:54:01 GMT

I am from India, and I know that PERVAIZ MUSHARAF was the one who started Kargil war but still I believe he was most honest leader Pakistan could have, who was really working for the good of that country.
Pre-requisite to solve any problem between in India and Pakistan is prosperous Pakistan. Unfortunately these corrupt politicians like Buttos and Sariefs are going to put Pakistan 20years back. I can really see Zardaari looting Pakistan and building another 300 acres farm house instead of London may be US

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UMER, MILWAUKEE,WI — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:54:55 GMT

INDEED A GREAT LOSS FOR PAKISTAN AND THE PAKISTANI'S.
I FEEL FOR THEM , RIGHT NOW THEY ARE REJOICING BUT WATCH THEM CRY PRETTY SOON,FOR THE GREAT LOSS THAT THEY HAVE SUFFERED AT THE HANDS OF CORRUPT ONES NAMELY ZARDARI AND NAWAZ.I TOO WISH PRESIDENT MUSHARRAF A LONG PROSPEROUS LIFE, A SAFE ONE AT THAT. HE WAS A GREAT SOLDIER, POLITICIAN , STATESMAN AND A GREAT SON OF THE SOIL OF PAKISTAN.MAY ALLAH PAK KEEP YOU FROM HARM'S WAY ,MY PRESIDENT! THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT SERVICES YOU RENDERED TO PAKISTAN AND FOR THE INNOCENT PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN

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Karachi, Pakistan — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:57:14 GMT

This shall be remembered as a black day in the history of Pakistan. Today, not many people might realize it, but soon when Zardari gets quick in the process of selling away everything left in this country, people may only then open their eyes to find themselves as "sold-out".
After Quaid-e-Azam, if there was anyone at all who was sincere to this nation, it was our beloved former President Musharraf, a true transformational leader and ever a soldier at heart.

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bashiradakku — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:02:30 GMT

Give credit where credit is due. Mushy did a few good things such as liberating the media, tried to push a moderate agenda and all in all I think he was a decent human being. Much better than leaders before. His biggest problem which is a common disease amongst paki politicians is holding on to power at any cost. He thought he was indispensable to Pakistan and must stay in power to save it. This arrogance, along with his unpopular war on his own people in Baluchistan and the Frontier really doomed him. The fact that Pakistan didn't generate 1 extra megawatt of power during his eight years speaks volumes about his administration inaptitude.
Good human being, bad leader! Not sure if people in Balochistan will agree with me on this "good human being" part of my analysis though. I'm just comparing him to previous rulers.

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Nolutr — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:09:17 GMT

Congratulations to the Pakistani people.Long live democracy. May the people of Pakistan now rule themselves and not another military dictator.

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Aliyah Hina, Seattle, WA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:23:31 GMT

A sad day indeed. I pray for the future of Pakistan.

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JQ , San Jose , California — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:38:26 GMT

This is indeed a sad day in the 61 yr turbolent history of Pakistan. President Pervez Musharraf was a very sincere and honest leader who always put the interest of Pakistan first . People of Pakistan will regret this day. I salute him .

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Eric, Toronto On — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:49:14 GMT

I am impressed, as it seems he has the best interest of his country and people at heart. Far too many dictators would rather destroy their country trying to hold on to power than move on after they are no longer welcomed. What's most positive is that this was done democratically which hopefully other people in the region will notice that change is possible through peaceful means

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Houston — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:06:13 GMT

Musharraf’s mistake was he left Sharrif and Zardari alive for another day. I hope next coup from the army is bloody, so all these corrupt scums will be wiped off from the face of this earth.

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Ravi — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:25:35 GMT

A true patriot and a nation builder. Never underestimate the patriotic Pakistan Army. Will Pakistanis let Zardari and Sharif play in the sand box and rip the country apart? If divisive politics and corruption stays the norm as before, the obvious will happen. There are other Musharaf's alive and kicking in Pakistan. As for Democracy, just look at India, its impartial unelected Prime Minster seems to be doing fine.

RSandhu

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Neal, Woodbridge, VA — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:43:26 GMT

It is an idiot who thinks that running a country is a black/white proposition. It takes many compromises and yes, sometimes, compromise of integrity to do what's right for ALL people AND national interests. People, celebrate now if you will, but see later that your pie in the sky dreams will have a sour taste.

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NVirk, austin tx — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:45:22 GMT

President Musharraf was a great leader, the ignorent people of Pakistan has forgotten what happened after Ayoub Khan, I feel the same will happen again to Pakistan. President Musharaff did his best in nine years. Nawaz Sharif and Asif Zardari both of them are corrupt, dangerous and criminals. Since the people of Pakistan and so called CIVIL society of Pakistan wants to see them in power then they should be ready to face the consequences. My heart cries for Pakistan and its people, they have no idea what they have asked for. Its just a matter of few days or few weeks Pakistan will be in great desparity with no end and yes Martial Law is better than corrupted democracy.

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Abdul Khan — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:54:29 GMT

I was as surprised as anyone that your President Musharraf resigned. I always thought he is a man of dignity and honor.He did steer Pakistan through turbulent waters during the past 9 years, demonstrating his leadership abilities (which can not be disputed).

But more than me, Mr.Gul Faraz summarized my line of thoughts by saying:

"Expected end to the person from middle class background without piles of money, the ultra rich family based political parties can never stand such a person to hurdle in their accumulating more money/influence agenda, all major News Channel in Pakistan are directly or indirectly under control of these political parties and their agents, therfore foolishness of masses cannot be blamed."

Mr.Faraz is right.It does not happen only in Pakistan, but also in other countries,like ours.

All the best to Pakistan in Post era of Pervez. What you sow is what you harvest.

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nvirk, , austin tx — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:54:33 GMT

I just want to quote, Ardeshir Cowasjee as he called, "assassinated ex-Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto a corrupt “notorious international criminal” and opposition leader Nawaz Sharif, another former prime minister, “the stupidest” in the history of Pakistan’s “stupid leaders.”
I completely agree with him but he forgot to mention Asif Ali Zardari, another criminal.

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Masood Haider — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:11:16 GMT

Today is a very dark day not only for Pakistan but for the entire World. Musharraf, although he committed a series of blunders during the last 18 months was like no other Pakistani leader of at least the past fifty years; scrupulously honest, straightforward, fiercely patriotic but pragmatic at the same time, he had a vision for Pakistan which could not unfortunately be realized because in a country full of corrupt politicians he was forced to forge alliances with the likes of the Chaudhries and the Mullahs and had to make some ignoble compromises. In being too subservient to the US government which unceremoniously dumped him at the end, he made the fatal mistake of signing the NRO enabling the murderous and thuggish coalition leadersto return to the country without any risk of prosecution. A leopard does not shed its spots and these leaders are bound to engage in loot and plunder on the same scale as they did in their respective two stints at power. A comparison of their expected record against Musharraf's would be his vindication.

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A Khan, Tulsa, OK — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:21:27 GMT

I think we are getting what we deserve; people like Mr. 10% (Asif Zardari) and Nawaz Sharif (also corrupt).
Its sad.

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Babu' Atlanta GA — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:52:05 GMT

The pakistani nation is now at a crossroads. They must be wary of evil that lurks for a weak corruptable government. India will watch the new government with a watchful eye. If the taliban infiltrate the government through bribes or fear, there will be bloodshed. India will not tolerate instability or terror so close to its border. I only prayer they will return to afghan and the US force will deal them a final blow. But they strive wherever human resistance is less. Dear Pakistan may God see you safely through. So much uncertainty in too many places across the globe. May God help us all...

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Asma, lahore,PK — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:59:34 GMT

At the end of an era,i got mixed emotions of fear,sorrow and hope.sometimes we get stuck with too much details that we ignore the picture as a whole.may be he was doing the best what he could, the way he knew best.

Well,Wishing Pakistan all the best on its 61st independence day.

God bless Pakistan
my sweet home
where i grew,
where my heart lives...
from the mountains to the ocean
God blees my land

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Jeff, Toronto, Canada — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:22:50 GMT

Another military coup & another dictator very soon.

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Ali, NYC — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:25:17 GMT

I don't know how to react to this news. Initially Musharraf did a lot of good for Pakistan but than his own interest to stay in power caused lot of harm too. I'm not for dictatorship in Pakistan but I have no fate in Political leaders like Nawaz Sharif and Asif Ali Zardari. We need our judiciary system to be strong so that no corrupt leaders like Nawaz and Asif can ever get away.

Pakistani nation has to elect new leadership. Pakistan need a revolution at ground level and average Pakistani need to demand justice and true democracy. Pakistan has no political base at ground level and that’s why we don’t see any new leadership. The only leader that I see that can stand out is Imran Khan.

God bless Pakistan.........

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jag — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:06:50 GMT

hey,.... Hoe many milllions he made from America on his own a/c. while helping terriest

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Democrat for life, WV — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:07:07 GMT

He sounds much like our President and what our president has done to this country. To bad no one had the guts in congress to bring Bush up on impeachment.

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Bahadar Ali Khan — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:27:46 GMT

I see a pinch of remorse for many people who feel that the departure of a dictator is bad for a country. This is called Stockholm syndrome, whereby kidnapped people start liking their captives.

How was a dictator who toppled a democratically elected government. Musharraf is lucky that he was accorded guard-of-honour at his departure and was not sent to jail cell, a treatment democratically elected prime ministers of Pakistan always faced on the eve of notorious military coups. One of them, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was hanged and other, Nawaz Sahrif was sent to dungeons of Attock fort before he was sent on exile.

Guys, support democracy in Pakistan and don't shed tears on the departure of a usurper. Most of the people here commenting are from North America. I would just ask them to simply imagine for a moment that Pentagon or Canadian Armed forces chief, takes control of US and Canada. Their civil liberties are quashed. TV stations are locked and intelligentsia of the country is sent to jail for protesting over this, without trial? How do you feel ? This terrible episode is repeated in Pakistan every 10 years by military generals.

World must work with democratic government in Pakistan because they have roots in the public. They are the best poeple to reach out general public and convince them even over the 'un-popular' policy decisions. People would understand this because the person talking to them would be their own and not somebody trained in alien military academies or bred in military cantonments. I have nothing against Army, but running government affairs is not their job, simple!

End of an era for Pakistan

Nelson, Brooklyn, New York — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:31:57 GMT

What person will now handle the Nukes ?

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Mian Sohail Ahmed Lahore Pakistan — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:09:34 GMT

Pakistan has been entered into a new era after resignation of General Retired Pervaiz Musharaf. Now, it is the responsibility of the politicians to run the country with consultation of each other and make policies those are better for the country as well as the world because we live in a global village. We should build our institutions and every organ of state should work in its own parameter as laid down in the Constitution of Pakistan 1973 and now this is the time to establish a strong Election Commission that should be free from all influences as well as Judiciary. Because first time in the history of Pakistan judicary has taken stand against illegal acts of the rulers. Musharaf regime first time in the history of Pakistan has destroyed the judiciary whcih is most essential organ and in which socieity there is no justice there will be no investment, peace and respect in the international community and i think this was the blunder of Musharaf regime to destroy the judicary and then the nature decided to remove the said person. Now, the politician should stregrthen the institutions otherwise we will face problems more and more and in this way i want to give credit to India there the institutions are going well. God Bless our beloved country and nation.

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WASIM JANJUA.(hafiz abad. pakistan) — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:20:39 GMT

Aah.once again we lost the great leader,soon we reallize the importance of Perwaiz musharaf.he waz agreat petrioticleader of the PAKISTAN.It is only because of currept politecion which happened last nite. in the end i will prey for my country and great leader (PERWAIZ MUSHARAF).

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masroor — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:42:44 GMT

this is very bad day for pakistan. our national hero resined. this is all becouse he is petriotic pakitani. he is the best man for pakitan. his absence wil soon show who is right. we are with musharaf but our voice will not raise by new media. they are all shown one side of image. this media is also bcouse of this man mushraf. god bless mushraf. we are with u & remain with u. pakistan hamesha painda bad. inshalah

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Mian Sohail Ahmed Lahore Pakistan — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:00:24 GMT

End of an era for Pakistan

sumairara — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:33:12 GMT

he was perfect leader and true leadear. but this due to mr zrdari{harami} & sharif ( third class man} he is gone. geo mushraf

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Kashif, Sialkot, Pakistan — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:40:12 GMT

He came to power unconstitutionally, encouraged illegality and arrogance among the establishment, detroyed institutions even furhter, and helped create rifts in society that show no signs of healing, and now he is running away leaving everything in shambles! The likes of such people must face court trials to discourage further disasters.

End of an era for Pakistan

Kashif, Sialkot, Pakistan — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:41:03 GMT

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Chaminda, Galle ,SL — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:47:26 GMT

I feel very sorry for Gen.Musharaff as personally he is one of my favourite characters. It is actually rediculous that pakistan is again taken over from him by such corrupted people like Sardari and Shariff.Democracy means nothing in countries like Pakistan.They need good dictators to prevent those corrupted democratic politicians from snatching everything they could and fill up their foreign accounts untill enough to feed their 10th generation.
People like Musharaff are too good for countries like Pakistan.That's why he was forced to step down.Anyway Pakistan soon will have another military dictator.However we wish for Pakistan's stability politically nad economically as it is very essential for the balance of power in the region of south asia.

End of an era for Pakistan

Jawaid Manzoor, Mississauga,ON — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:58:03 GMT

Impeachment call of President Nixon in the 70s’took United States a generation behind.In some what a similar call for General Musharaf’ s impeachment, there were unique parallels within Pakistan’s own situation. With his resgnation,however,the country can move on now.

There has been a progressive deterioration in Pakistan under Mushtaf's fairly open military government that worked well to a point. The problem however with a military government is its obsession with power as means to its survival without a mandate. A democracy provides that. Consequently, Mr. Musharf’s departure represents a typical paradigm of ends of power gone wrong that finally must test itself.

Clearly, lot had come and gone for the president. There has been a deadly war against terrorism; his life has been under threat, then the pressures from the West. But there other charges as well.

The president erred on Chief Justice Chaudhry, first and second time around, as accepted by himself. This followed by national emergency; this remarkably became his own Watergate.

There has seemed a complexity in President Mushraf’s forced exit. He has access to unlimited information. Would people trust him inside or out of the country? But, if this represents a harsh if valid concerns, what do they do for an ex - president felt so let down after a long service for the country. Surely then, the answer would be to accord him the trust and respect becoming of his stature despite his failures, if indeed some tangible achievements. Pakistan is already burdened by politics of revenge, particularly since Late Z.A Bhutto.
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Whatever facts, for now, Mr. Musharaf has quietly stepped down declaring his retirement and should be entitled to a fair package, particularly security, and live in Pakistan.

Leaders function on behalf of the people as human beings and can only provide the system they have grown in. Mr.Mushraf now left the office,
should have plenty of time to write, reminisce and be remembered for whatever good work.

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sara — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:30:48 GMT

a very sad day indeed, now we have to suffer another corrupt period of two equally corrupt politicians.

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Farhannk — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:46:34 GMT

Very sad in deed.

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Achu julius Tegha. JOHANNESSBURG — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:58:18 GMT

Pervez is one of the rulers i have erver recognised as a good rulers.To me he is a good ruler, just that his adminiistration is made up of ungreatfull elements.
Other rulers in the world should learn adeously from his prnciples in order to foster developement in their respective countries.

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Omar - Houston, Texas — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:59:16 GMT

Extremely a sad day for Pakistan now the thugs are here to rule Pakistan both are thief, they have robbed Pakistan in the past n they are here to do it again they have already started but i must say its so sad that people of Pakistan has a memory loss problem not too long ago everybody was screaming that Asif/Sharif have robbed our country and now they have broght them back. Majority of the owners of the TV channels like AAJ News - ARY News and specially GEO News owner Shakeel ul Rehman whose Father was slap by Ayub Khan who then was black mailing Government well done Shakeel ul Rehman u r carrying your father legacy - all these channels took money so as the alcoholic/womaniser journalist they all should be tried for treason they are the actual traitors of Pakistan - Well President Musharraf we are extremely greatful for all what you have done to the ungreatful people of Pakistan - God bless you and keep you safe from these evils

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Achu Julius Tegha — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:02:10 GMT

Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown.

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Mary Doe, Pendleton, Or — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:29:53 GMT

Isn't it amazing that almost all of the comments are from what appear to be Pakistani people, 90% of them in the US. If Mushariff was so great, why didn't they stay in their own country under his rule? Maybe the US isn't the best form of government, but it seems like everyone still wants to be here. GOD BLESS AMERICA

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Amir, Karachi, Sindh — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:31:37 GMT

Those politicians in Pakistan, who claim that "Democracy is the best revenge" themselves claimed power in the most undemocratic fashion (PPP Chaimanship). However, incompetent Musharraf was, still he was the best of the worst in the current crop of leaders in Pakistan.

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Tashfeen Niaz Kuwait — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:13:40 GMT

It is a great victory for democaracy in Pakistan. The military is only there to help protect our borders and should never be allowed to rule not only Pakistan but any country in the world.

Worst democracy is better then the best of the military rule in the long run . India is an exapmle of the first and Pakistan the later.

The developed world should not help or nurture dictators as in the final analysis this will come to hount them a good example of that is Iran.

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duke j Moorhead, Minnesota — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:21:06 GMT

I wonder if India or Iran will take over the country. They seem to be going nowhere fast.

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Asif Hussain, Troy, Michigan — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:48:14 GMT

Mr. Musharraf was the only hope for Pakistan, i ask all pakistani to please make dua for him and also make dua that another General will take over soon from Mr. 10% (Most dengerous man in pakistan)and from Steel thief (most greedy person in Pakistan). Mr. 10% will be soon Mr. 100% and Steel thief will melt all Pakistan Railway if the poor pakistani will leave them alone.
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

End of an era for Pakistan

Asif Hussain — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:02:29 GMT

Mr. Musharraf was the only hope for Pakistan, i ask all pakistani please make Dua for his long life. Also make all effort to get rid of Zardari and Sharif brothers. These two families will sell and eat every inch of Pakistan. Additionally, please send letters to UN and all world champions about Zardari (most dengerous person in pakistan) and Sharif (most greedy and dangerous person in Pakistan) and informed them about there past.
May Allah bring another General for Pakistan and save Pakistan from Zardari and Nawaz.

Pakistan Zindabad (LONG LIVE PAKISTAN)

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Jamal K. Lahore — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:28:46 GMT

Good Riddance, Musharraf. You were the man who ate the leftovers of the West. Now you are gone and we are very happy. We pray to Allah so that we can get a good leader. Not the one who is a slave of the Western Countries. Most of the Pakistani leaders have been the slaves and too much corrupt. Allah Damn them. Aameen.

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Shaikh Qasim, Islamabad — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:32:25 GMT

The slave (Musharraf) is gone. Great news. He should be tried for treason.

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Colette, Denver, CO — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:52:59 GMT

The comments reflect a very torn Pakistani populace. Dissent itself a great sign Pakistan's fledgling democracy is maturing. Checks and balances are essential to a working democracy and Musharref's resignation shows thier power. Musharref's opposition face serious scrutiny from citizens and outsiders both to live up to thier democratic pledges and live down a history of greed and cronyism.

Democracy is a messy business and Pakistan is relearning that lesson. I hope it's people and leaders alike remember to put the law first and thier personal ambitions second. Failure to show that lesson learned will reveal how much real growing up Pakistan's democracy has really done.

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Shadab sahiba, Irving, Texs — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:26:05 GMT

I sad day for pakistan indeed. He was atrue leader for Pakistan who always had Pakistan First! dear pakistani's have a very short lived memory. they seem to have forgotten that people who have bees asking to impeech him are crimnals themselves. I wish him all the best in his life. Pakistan will regret losinghim soon. My best wishes to Pakistan.

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Amir Hussain Khadim, Karachi, Pakistan — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:40:27 GMT

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Even if Musharraf had a good agenda initially, the last couple of years of his rule clearly showed that the power has gone to his head. The corruption was rampant. But not the corruption that an ordinary man does. he created an elitist culture where only the creme de la creme can loot and plunder. The selling of Pakistan steel Mills by his dear prime minister and allies is a case in point. The dismissal of Chief justice was mushi's way to punish him for snatching that deal from mushi's and the allies' mouth.

The way he acted after removal of judges clearly showed that he now wants to be the one and only authority in Pakistan.

The biggest crime that musharraf committed was not to cultivate a political leadership while he enjoyed complete control over Pakistan. If he cudnt set things straight in 9 years, how long did he want to rule? The people he surrounded himself with lost in the elections like anything, showing no public support for musharraf or his allies.

PPP and PML are a bunch of hungry dogs all ready to feast on the flesh and blood of pakistan but I would dub it as musharraf's mistake to be not able to cultivate one good leader in 9 years who cud stand upto zardaris and sharifs even after 9 years of their absence. Its actually Musharraf who made a hero out of these scoundrels.

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ALFA ABUBAKAR, LAGOS, NIGERIA — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:56:01 GMT

WHAT A DISGRACEFUL DAY FOR A WESTERN PUPPET/DESPOT!

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Bob, Boston, MA — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:44:07 GMT

PLEASE READ: All comments must be approved before appearing in the thread; time and space constraints prevent all comments from appearing. We will only approve comments that are directly related to the blog, use appropriate language and are not attacking the comments of others.

^^^^^^^^ censorship by a defense contractor - General Electric's MSNBC

...guess that's why there are so many pro-Musharraf statements that have been approved and no 'anti' ones...

I have been waiting nearly 8 years for Dubya to give an "extemporaneous" speech like this!

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J A ahmed — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:47:02 GMT

The only day i will ever approve of a Pakistani Government is the day that they remove the Anti-Ahmadi clause that gives no civil liberties to religous minorities. I dont care about Pervez Musharaf or Asif Zardari or Nawaz Sharif.

http://www.thepersecution.org/

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Daniel — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:19:36 GMT

The ruling coalition has now no point to be in a coalition, coz their only reason(musharraf) to be united is gone ..let the cat and mouse game begin, like always.

Democracy in Pakistan , wouldnt survive long. what good would happen if Gen.Kiyani took over this govt after a few months/year. Pakistan would be back again where it was 8 years ago. And ironically, the best years of Pakistan were always under a military regime.

Shame on you fool me once, Shame on me if you fool me twice.

look , we got fooled again by the two parties, who we gave 4 terms in the govt before. wat a pitty.

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Me, Mpls — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:11:41 GMT

How long until Osama and his crew take over like they did in Afganistan? Should be interesting even more so because Pakistan has Nuclear weapons.

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Waheed Ahmed Hashmi, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:33:00 GMT

Pervaiz Musharaf came with a very nice agenda and programme and the implementation also started, but unfortunatly as the time passed, there were so many compromises which in the end seemed to only to prolong his rule. Which brings us to the point that what we need is not personalities, but a system in place.

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Graham Bell, Edison, NJ — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:52:50 GMT

Musharraf, with the blessings of the Bush administration, had been corroding away human rights in Pakistan. He was making a mockery of democracy just as Bush is doing in the US. The world is already a better place with his resignation. Hope the new president will be able to crush the militancy that Musharraf and Bush had been breeding in the mountains of Pak-Afghan border. Bush, your days as the American dictator are coming to an end. I know the next photo the world sees of you after November '08 will be with Musharraf and Bin Laden at Tora Bora - smiling ear to ear.

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Chris, Miami — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:52:51 GMT

One is reminded of Richard Nixon's resignation, that it was done for the "good of the Nation." Musharraf was a good U.S. ally who was always in a tenuous position: appeasing hard-liners in his own country while appealing to more moderate forces and cultivating relationships with the outside world. Maybe he had an impossible job. Lucky for him, it is over now, and he can retire to write his memoirs, teach, whatever, and the problems of Pakistan will fall on a new group of politicians. Rarely do leaders voluntarily relinquish power. Whether you agree with his politics or not, he must be commended for peacefully stepping aside and avoiding further turmoil. Nixonian, indeed.

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Kevin, Ca. — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:46:23 GMT

Pakistan? Everyone take out a pen and write this down.
In five years counter insurgency and cross boarder inflitration will lead to this countrys down fall.
Put the date on it and hang it on your wall.

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Derek, Russellville, AR — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:57:16 GMT

Have you people read anything that has been going on over there with regards to his rule? I use the term rule, because he acted as though he were above any and all authority. I'm glad he's gone, clearing the path for the people to actually have a say in their government, instead of being spearheaded by a totalitarian military regime who held elections just to show that the results meant nothing to them. Now, the true leaders of Pakistan can begin to build, and all the people of the country, instead of just a few, can have their voice heard.

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inder, san jose, ca — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:05:56 GMT

On scrolling through the messages, I have this observation:
Most people living in the US like Musharraf irrespective of their backgrounds - just going by the signed names of commentators.

Most people commenting from Pakistan are relieved that he is gone!

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Cecil USA — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:58:22 GMT

after reading several comments . I guess it would be too much to ask for people to have a clue what their talking about before posting.

Ok he is gone, Not it is up to the People of Pakistan to put someone in power that will correct the isses they face. It may take time for them to elect the right group but the path is clear to do so. BTW Bin Ladin better sell the house in the hills the new government may not have a use for a 7' tall man who can't play basketball

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DNSmith, Ozark, AL — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:20:28 GMT

All I can say is, "Pakistanis who don't want fundamentalist Islamists to control the country will be sorry."

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LaNell Barrett — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:37:21 GMT

By all I have been told by native, in-country Pakistanis, he did very well for their country. They admired him, considered him very brave through the many attempts on his life as he tried to steer things in the right direction there. Bless him and his family for what they have gone through.

NOW...we will see if his successor follows through along the same path/same direction. And with as much preserverance.

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Salah uddin,New York,NY — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:48:40 GMT

This is one ofThe the saddest day in Pakistan history.
The two people who went after Musharuf are the biggest crooks,most dishonest people in Pakistan.Zardari had a nick name of Mr 10% because he would take 10% of any business established in Pakistan.Both Zardar and Shariff have hundereds of million dollars in overseas banks.Musharuf made one mistake.He should have hanged both of them in 1999 rather than pardon them.

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Rooster, Yokohama, Japan — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:24:36 GMT

Dear President Pervez Musharraf,

Thank you for all that you did. I believed in you and still believe in you. You helped a lot of good people and stopped a lot of bad people. I believe the whole world will truly miss you. Here is a big warm hello from Japan! If you need a place to stay look me up in Yokohama!

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Jay, Deridder, Louisiana — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:51:25 GMT

It is amazing to me how people do so little research when it comes to history. Before Musharaf the politics in this country was one elistest group trading leadership. Although, some of his decisions may have been to heavy handed the intent was to make a better Pakistan. As far as the mail I will responses I will receive the only thing I can say is study your government leaders history.

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JD, OHIO — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:21:29 GMT

Let the taliban training camps open in full operation now. They have free access to the country now. IMO...

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kash, houston, Texas, USA — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:54:22 GMT

Musharaf was the best and honest president, very sad to see him going. Now this whole country is on mercy of these Corrupt political so called leaders with dark criminal past. Pakistan having so much illiterate people does not deserve democracy , specially when these corrupt leaders were chosen by only 40% turn out voters and majority of those voters were bribed to cast vote as its very common in Pakistani culture specially in remote villages or were naively choosing these leaders under the high illiterate influence.

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Asaif-Middlesex London uk — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:03:15 GMT

Musharraf...although a good man,nevertheless was an irresponsible leader who failed in protecting Pakistan from corrupt politicians and terrorists,by allowing Messrs Zardari and Shariff-BACK,despite their shady backgrounds,yet Musharraf originally had Shariff overthrown for corruption,and Zardari...MR 10%-had all his convictions overturned mysteriously not by the deposed chief justice IFTEKHAR CHAUDHRY -but by the PCO judges -right under the nose of Mush-OR SHALL WE ASSUME WITH MUSH'S BLESSINGS??If Mush was so worried about Pakistan ,as head of state ,why did he allow the two convicts back into the country?What about the influx of the Taliban, Osama is supposed to be around there , the increase in terrorism,suicide bombings,what about the security of borders? corruption within the ISI?Instead of dragging America into all this,the silly man should have known his place,and DONE HIS JOB PROPERLY-a job only people of luck get to hold!AS FAR AS I CAN SEE HE WAS A WEAK LEADER!
I feel sorry for the people of Pakistan, since Musharraf has left them in a lurch.I sincerely hope they get a leader who would "understand his/her duty"and be firm with terrorists,not invite them in to run the country,and then blame the USA for their own failures!MR MUSH,TAKE A LEAF FROM MUGABES BOOK!

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Kadir Akturk, New York, NY — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:21:42 GMT

What happens when two scorpions are put into the same spot? One will inevitably kill the other. And so it is with these two corrupt vermin now in the circle of power in Pakistan. Why cannot a wise, honorable, and very well educated man like Tariq Saranjam from Peshawar be elected President of Pakistan for a REAL change? We need TRUE Democracy in Pakistan TODAY.
God bless Musharif and his memory among Pakistanis.

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mike m — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:46:53 GMT

why doesnt th US just quit meddling in everyone elses business it would be a better world for it

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Haroon Malik, Lahore, Pakistan — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:31:08 GMT

The last 9 years were the best years for Pakistan bringing not only stability and economic growth, but also improving the standard of life of the people of Pakistan. Unfortunately, a majority of our people does not see it that way and they think it just happened. I would say they are blind and a media that is controlled by selfish journalists who would do anything for money and popularity further blinds them.

The terrorist attacks the country is facing is a reaction to a bold step that President Musharaf took to sweep out extremist movements in Pakistan - something that no democratic government would have had the guts for.

Indeed this is a sad day for us as we have lost a leader who was sincere to this country. But, I think that in a way what the President has done is right. These ignorant and blind people deserve to suffer. They have elected previously tested thugs and looters who did nothing for this country in the past and not even now after retaking charge of the government.

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ksquare — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:07:28 GMT

Time will tell.
The masses will beg him to rule again.

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asaif middlesex uk — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:27:40 GMT

As a Pakistani myself,the problems with Pakistan are solely those created by the Pakistanis themselves, lack of education,arrogancy coupled with the kind of devious leaders ,a corrupt police force,a corrupt judiciary,no respect or room for other cultures or religion.Musharraf and the Army were the only "sensible"option the country had..but thanks to Mush's weakhandedness of the judiciary issue,and the riots and demonstrations that followed,The first "FAIR ELECTIONS" on record,which gave the "DUO GHADARI AND NOT SO SHARIFF" their chance to come back once again into Pakistan to fleece the country to the bone!
What one wonders...is HOW MUCH DID MUSH SETTLE FOR???
To allow these convicts to ruin the country once again,and conveniently allowing him a free passage with a guard of honour![CRIME DOES PAY]
Only time will tell..but my advise to MUSH-TAKE A LEAF FROM MUGABES BOOK!

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A Khan, Cleveland — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:54:57 GMT

Now that Musharraf is gone, and given the track record of the leaders remaining, how long will it be before "Mr. 10% Zadari" or someone else in the government starts selling bits and pieces of nuclear technology to the highest bidder?

Musharraf may not have been the best leader, but he was the best leader that he could be. He put the interests of the country before his own.

Now that he is gone, it is a sad day indeed for Pakistan, and for the world.

I hope that all that are cheering his departure still feel the same way when Pakistan has devolved into a nuclear-armed third-world country in the midst of civil war.

May you live a long and peaceful life President Musharraf, you have earned it.

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asaif, Middlesex, UK — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:02:58 GMT

For all those people who have never been to Pakistan,did you know that if you were mugged,robbed or your daughter was raped you will have no one to turn to!Did you know that the Police would not intervene,you would have to pay or bribe them to register a complaint[FIR]and only if the other side doesn't bribe them more then you.Then you have the COURTS OR JUDICIARY-did you know that if you are lucky enough to get your case to court, [AFTER BRIBING THE POLICE TO PRESS CHARGES]the Judge will usually have been bought off by the other side!SO MUCH FOR MUSH AND HIS JUDICIARY REFORMS.Perhaps this is one of the reasons,the younger Shariff ,has decided to open his own "grievances surgery"outside his residence - for complaints against the Police and Judiciary.The queus ooutside this skeleton service are nevertheless-"massive".Perhaps these are issues some Pakistanis fail to address,before jumping the bandwagon and starting to accuse the West for all it's ills,and expecting to become a democratic country,and Where was MUSHARRAF when all this was and still is happening in Pakistan??This is the responsibility of the head of state[LAW AND ORDER-IMPLEMENTATION] IS IT NOT WORRYING WHERE ONE WOULD TURN IN CASE OF EMERGENCY?
IMAGINE YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY IN THAT CASE SCENARIO?
WHO WOULD YOU TURN TO?THE POLICE?THEY WILL START EYEING UP YOUR WIFE OR DAUGHTER IF YOU CAN NOT BRIBE THEM,EVEN WORSE ARREST YOU ON A TRUMPED UP CHARGE!
The Courts???[KANGAROO COURTS DISH OUT BETTER JUSTICE!]
NO WONDER THERE ARE NO TOURISTS IN PAKISTAN TODAY!
GOOD RIDDANCE ...MUSHARRAF-YOU HAD THE CHANCE TO CHANGE ALL THIS...BUT DID YOU??
LETS SEE HOW LONG THIS LIMPING HORSE OF A NATION CAN CARRY ON...BY THE WAY I AM A PAKISTANI MUSLIM!

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izuber, Karachi, Pakistan — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:31:51 GMT

Wishful thinking!! Come back to Pakistan and suffer alongside us shoulder to shoulder, such comment are too cynical specially from the ones not on ground and not aware of ground reality.

All we have is a bunch of thugs elected to govt. by those cronies who are desperate to see someone in the office so they can be the beneficiaries of the loot by their chosen ones.

Pakistan does not have a strong backbone to tolerate redundant failures and robbery of it’s impoverished treasury which depends on mere contributions and “loans” by others.

Let us have some dignity and say YES to Martial Law instead of Corrupt Democracy and crook’s to rule us.

Uzma sahiba your hurray is kinda too sharp and pointed although you mean good but it hurts more than we can tolerate any more of this trash politics. I hope you are cheered up in a sarcastic mode and did not mean to cheer up positively as there is nothing positive about this game of dacoits and robbers.

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hurray for democracy!!!

we know pakistan has a long way to go but having an elected government is the most important thing.

And yes we know that it will take a few elections before we get an honest elected government from top to bottom but the this was a start of that process
and
i hope that our pakistani people are ready for a long struggle.

we all know that the politicians in Pakistan right now are not really honest but we will have to do with them for now until through the process of democracy we can get there. we just need to be patient.

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Asma Mirza, Karachi , Sindh - Pakistan — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:09:06 GMT

A message for all readers here on this forum:

What we see from afar may not be the picture when observed upfront. Dictatorship by all means is a NO in every society and every geographical location.

A country that has a constitution and has a previous record of a democratic rule, tends to continue with the similar setup. Dictators cannot see and handle the mandate that every electoral process could ever bring.

People sitting in foreign countries and earning in foreign currencies cannot comprehend an economy that is so fragile like Pakistan's. Sitting in welfare states like Canada and US, the people writting comments like: It is a very sad day / Mush was a great leader ... Nothing really makes sense since in one day prices cannot go up ... The present democratic alliance between two major representing parties in Pakistan that have the mandate of the people of Pakistan is now running the governmental procedures and policies. Within fifteen days ... No country ever has revised prices on commodities, would it?

On the contrary, thanks to the previous dictatorship regime ... No economic uplift was observed. No investment came in. Nothing really happened other then unlawfully acquiring funds that were sent as aid and national assets were disposed off for peanuts.

Not only this but imports were sky high and exports minimized. Just because Sharif's family was in textiles, Dictator Musharaf gave no worth while policies uplifting the textile sector and one of our bumper crops and the relevant industry suffered at the ruthless hands of the previous dictatorship oriented government.

Not just the textiles suffered but imports sky rocketed as well. One such example is the mobile phone industry that was importing in billions of dollars every month.

Don't we all compare everything that happens in Pakistan with that of India's? Indians are a prosperous nation since they don't help importers in but put their policies in action and start manufacturing then importing foreign manufactured consumer goods.

Foreign manufactured vehicles were imported like crazy just because Dictator Musharaf's son in law was one of the main people importing foreign vehicles.

People of Pakistan were killed ... Economy shattered ... Nobody to listen and everyone's right on stake ... People who tend to have a rough and tough life, the army men: enjoying life as prince and princesses. No textiles, no manufacturing, no commodity policy variants to uplift a geo-economic trend diminishing in the country.

Who is responsible?

The person who did not step down but paved a safe passage to a premiere selected named Shaukat Aziz.

The person who killed so many innocent Pakistanies by firing so many at Lal Masjid, NWFP and through such so-called suicide bombings.

The most unfortunate truth is ... People who come into power ... Like Dictator Musharaf ... forget that there is a day when everything is reconciled for the better. One has to give an account of whatever he/she has previously conducted and so its the wrath of Musharaf's own ill doings so far.

Had he been a just ruler ... He would look into the interest of the country. Withdraw the troops from Kashmir; hey, its just a piece of land and we are fighting cause our waters come from Kashmir. Why can't we just have enough faith in God. God willing we will have our share of the waters. Why fight and kill. Get killed, why?

Dictators are a horrid truth of this nation's disaster.

LONG LIVE PAKISTAN

and

THANK YOU MUSHARAF FOR GETTING LOST FOR GOOD

Those who cannot deliver and cannot help, need not stay at all for as long as a day!

The country Pakistan like every other country needs democracy to put the lost voices unheard yet.

Let us all congratulate the win of democracy over dictatorship.

Let us all congratulate the win of vision over illusion.

Let us all congratulate the electoral privillege over unlawful opression.

Let us congratulate the mandate of people of Pakistan.

Those sitting in countries other then Pakistan, think about Pakistanies before anything else.

It is all about the people. The nation and then the country.

Let the nation chose the best for its harnesses ...

Let the nation decide whom are they entrusting their faith with.

Let Pakistan grow. Help Pakistan grow. Provide means to make Pakistan grow.

Help.

Don't point fingures on your country and countrymen.

Realise.

Think.

Do justice to the due.

Think again.

Say what is best suitable.

Pakistan Zindabad.

Pakistan Paaindabad.

Long Live Pakistan .... Long Live the vision of B. Bhutto. Strengthen Pakisan. Help Pakistan. Praise Pakistan ... Net result? Happy Pakistan!

Jeeay Jeeay Jeeay Bhutto ... Jeeay Jeeay Jeeay Bhutto ... Jeeay Jeeay Jeeay Bhutto ... Jeeay Bhutto sada Jeeay ... Jeeay Bhutto sada Jeeay (INSHA ALLAH).

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izuber, Karachi, Pakistan — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:20:04 GMT

Musharaf was not a filthy politician like the entire arena, he strived to correct many wrong things but as an individual one cannot correct the screwed up society by himself unless the entire society the nation is willing to change to better.
The nation is used to the corrupt people like Not-So-Sharief and Zardari Percent Bhikari, eventually these thugs will sell off the country to fill their own pockets.
Musharraf a clean loyal, sincere and honest man a soldier and a statesman cannot be blamed for the evil of entire political system and the society.
He did his best in preserving the dignity of Pakistan which he received in the poorest state, but, a majority of Pakistanis is so downright illiterate that they will never understand will always be ungrateful to anyone who does any good for them.
Shame on those who dont know what is democracy and yet seek it.

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Zahir, Inwood West Virginia — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:12:07 GMT

I do not belive in military rule my self. But look at the history of Pakistan. These people of Pakistan do not understand a word of politics neither want to look at the results of these two politicians ( Zirdari & Nawaz) They will never do any thing good for the country other then stuffing their pockets. Come on! people of Pakistan wake up and put these two where they belong (Zirdari & Nawaz)in jail and throw away the key. Elect some one who has done some honest community work for the poor and middle class.Some one who has common sence not a political portfolio. Please, please, please wake up and take control of this beautiful Pakistan. Pakistan Zindah Abad>

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pendakur.,bellary,karnataka,india — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:17:01 GMT

musharaff was an army man but was diffrent from the earlier generals of pakistan.he did his best to balance in the area and ofcourse all that he did was not correct.we wish pakistan peace,stability and prosperity

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Khadim Hussain — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:52:13 GMT

Thanks God the general's era has ended we have lost so many things behind generals but every general did nothing only a little economical boom for country. Every time they dragged country 30 years behind and every time a democratic government tried to stable the government but every time generals weakened the country.

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khaild s.korea — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:54:27 GMT

he is the best president i miss him forever and bad guys come again

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A.sajjad — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:41:05 GMT

I am very sad to see that the only great and and eduacted person who had the vision to make changes left the Pakintani Government. MR. Musharraf gaveup on pakitsan and pakistani people aganist thiefs and robbers, because he could not take it anymore. I am also mad at president Musharraf for giving up on Pakistan and pakistani people. I do know that he had no other way but he was the last hope.I feel sorry for my Pakistani friends and family and pray for them the best. at last thank you MR. Musharraf for even trying your best for the Pakistan and i am extremely greatful you giving the pakistani people a chance.

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youtube_musharraf_speech — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:21:19 GMT

search youtube for "musharraf subtitles" (without quotes) for Musharraf resignation speech. Complete speech in 10 parts with SUBTITLES in ENGLISH.

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asaif------ Middlesex----UK — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:06:57 GMT

I see from the forum that many people,[mainly of Pakistani background] are still praising Musharraf.
I would like to ask them the following:
a]DO THEY RECALL THE LAL MASJID CARNAGE?
WHY COULDN'T TEAR GAS BE USED?MUSHARRAF "MURDERED"INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN THERE!
b]THE LAW AND ORDER SITUATION IN PAKISTAN TODAY-THE DAILY BOMBINGS/NOW WE HEAR THERE IS A PAKISTANI TALEBAN AS WELL??[ Whose creation is this?]
[A spokesman for the Pakistani Taleban said they had carried out the attacks, which he said were a response to army violence in the country's north-west.
SOURCE
BBC NEWS -THURSDAY 21st AUGUST 2008

[Speaking to the BBC, Maulvi Umar of the Tehrik-e-Taleban Pakistan said the bombings in Wah were in retaliation for the deaths of "innocent women and children" in the tribal area of Bajaur.]

THE PROPOSED CHEAP SELL OFF OF PAKISTAN STEEL-TO CRONIES OF MESSRS MUSHARRAF&SHAUKAT AZIZ!THE CHEAP SELLING OF WHEAT/SUBSEQUENT RE-PURCHASE OF THE SAME AT DOUBLE THE PRICE.[what a carry on=Laurel & Hardy drama]
c]WHAT IMPROVEMENTS,IF ANY,DID DEPOSED CHIEF JUSTICE IFTEKHAR CHAUDHRY BRING TO THE CORRUPT JUDICIARY??
HOW MANY...POOR..INNOCENT PEOPLE HAVE JUSTICE TODAY???
IS THAT WHY THOUSANDS CONVERGE EVERY DAY ON THE DOOR STEPS OF SHAHBAZ SHARIFF...SEEKING JUSTICE!
SURELY AS THE CHIEF JUSTICE, THE ONUS OF RESPONSIBILITY AND IMPLEMENTATION OF LAW LAY WITH HIM.What did he do???..NOTHING..!THERE ARE PEOPLE IN PAKISTAN WHO CLAIM THAT HE WAS TAKING BACKHANDERS WHILST IN OFFICE.!WHY IS HE CREATING SUCH A FUSS FOR RE-INSTATEMENT ??
So my advise to all those people crying out for Mush And Iftekhar Chaudhry.... look into these peoples dubious backgrounds whilst in office,apart from misuse of US aid,and subsequent lining of their own pockets,they gave the people nothing but grief!WHERE DID MUSH GET THE MONEY TO BUY A MILLION DOLLAR RANCH IN THE US FROM? AND THE FARM-HOUSE HE IS RETIRING TO IN ISLAMABAD-PLUS HE EVEN HAS A MASSIVE PLACE IN LAHORE DHA FOR WOMANISING TRIPS!DON'T CHEAT YOURSELVES...BUT THE PRESENT TWO CONS-GHADARI AND NOT SO SHARIFF ARE'NT ANY BETTER EITHER!OH DEAR...BUT...
GOOD RIDDANCE , TO BOTH MUSH AND NOT SO BLIND IFTEKHAR CHAUDHRY!!!and lets just watch the new co -alition ...closely!

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Jerry Colman — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:05:50 GMT

The Radicals are now in charge they got what they wished for the Tali-Band will soon control the Nukes.

End of an era for Pakistan

Carol Shah — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:18:29 GMT

After having read most of the comments here, I must agree that 'the lesser of 2 evils' is the one leaving. I was in Pakistan when he ousted Sharif, and all I heard from the people then was how much money Sharif had stolen from the country! And that is what I heard about Bhutto and her husband too! that they were thieves living on the backs of the poor people of Pakistan. Ignorance has won again and I cannot see either Sharif or Bhuttos party bringing any good to the country and it's people. It is a dark, sad day in the history once again. Musharraff served Pakistan well, but the overall ignorance of the people cannot see that. Pakistan will suffer more under leadership that is UnEducated. May Allah Protect the Good People of Pakistan. Pakistan Zindabad!!

End of an era for Pakistan

Khalid Anwar — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:00:23 GMT

Although he was a military dictator he was a good president and as he did say "before he came people didnt even know what Pakistan was" yes you can argue it was either him who made Pakistan known or the terrorists however he was not a man of his word if he stuck to his word he would have been a very good president and people would still like him but he didnt

God help Pakistan if Nawaz Sharif becomes President I think it would be better with a democratic leader but that leader needs to have a good relation with the military to help Pakistan fight its problems first

End of an era for Pakistan

Junaid Butt, Chicago, IL — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:20:52 GMT

Only time will tell if Musharraf's departure will bode well for Pakistan or not. However it seems likely already that only faces are changing, the system will still remain the same. Mr. Zardari is refusing to restore the judiciary despite his written agreement and oath on the Quran. He has reportedly said that he doesn't care for any agreements, he will do what he thinks is the best course of action. Seems like those words have been taken from Musharraf's diary since he refused to live by the promise he made to the people by saying it was not in the best interest of the country.
Also from the looks of it, Mr. Zardari will not do away with the President's right to dissolve National Assembly because he wants to be the President himself. Just 2 weeks ago he had unequivocally said that he was not the candidate for President.

I am not a big fan of Musharraf (actually had idolized BB for a long time)but he could have been a good check and balance in this situation. Seems like really dark days are about to hit Pakistan; not because of Musharraf's departure but because of Zardari's assent to power. He will be much bigger dictator than Musharraf (he has already proven in his past 6 months as PPP co-chairman) and once he becomes President, PM will have no other rights except to do yes Sir just like Shaukat Aziz. At least Musharraf used to consult his Kitchen Cabinet, Zardari will only consult Faryal Talpur and then impose the decisions on the rest of the party and the country.

And of course no one will be able to remove Zardari because no party will have 2/3rd majority ever in a Pakistani Parliament like this one.

Even the situation 5 years down the road will not be any better since the judiciary is not being made independent. Therefore there will be no free and fair elections. Zardari will (just like Musharraf) try to get elected via the current Parliament before the new Parliament is elected.

If PPP really wants to keep its reputation alive with the people who voted for it, people like Aitzaz Ahsan, Raza Rabbani, Farhat-ullah Babar, Amin Fahim, Naveen Qamar and the likes have to stand-up to the new dictatorship before it becomes a menace and leads to a new Martial Law few years down the road & a constant political rift and law and order situation in the country.

End of an era for Pakistan

TAUQEER fromNOWSHERA — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:39:30 GMT

I AM VERY HAPPY FOR RESIGNATION OF MUSHARAF.HE IS THE MURDER OF TALBAN-E-LAL MASJID

End of an era for Pakistan

asaif----Middlesex-----UK — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:00:39 GMT

Hmm....So the co-alition has finally broken down,Ghadari has shown his true greed,and has not refrained from his old habits of pilfering and stealing..however..this time he has been spotted with his hands in the pie[THE PRESIDENCY ]by another crook,who does'nt like to be crooked- [The not so Shariff]-and Ghadari has been smacked in his hand !What I am worried about now is who is in charge of the countries Nukes??Definitely not Mush?Ghadari?Shariff?
or that puppet Raza Gilani?------Do we know who is in charge over there??Hello..?
Maybe ,the so-called Pakistani Taleban-and if the US is not careful they may find that these have been sold off from the back door to the Taleban "for the right price" by Ghadari and his so called PPP cronies!
WORRYING IS'NT IT?
GET THE ARMY BACK IN..FULL STOP.!!

End of an era for Pakistan

Ahmad Halim — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:18:17 GMT

I give credit to Musharaf for his achievements, and there are many during the most turbulent times in Pakistan. Unfortunately he did make mistakes along the way. But, who is the perfect leader? History will tell. Musharaf's biggest mistake, however, was to let some old thieves back into Pakistan. Some of us may not forgive him for that.

End of an era for Pakistan

Ghassan Abid, London UK — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:41:34 GMT

Nothing's going to change, they're all power hungry maniacs. When time comes, they run away like cowards. Pakistani politics needs new and educated people, not brain-dead freaks.

End of an era for Pakistan

Steve,Johannesburg,South Africa — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:48:13 GMT

The exit of Mush is unfortunate only because of what is left behind-2 pseudo tinpot dictators pretending to lead a "nation" so desperate to be recognised as an independent country.Pakistan has just about given up on its lawless frontier province to the Taliban and Baluchistan is actively seeking independence.The rest of the so-called Pakistan should do the ultimate:save face and allow India to absorb it back.
Steve

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GFB, Minneapolis, MN — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:28:13 GMT

Did any of you read this news item?
August 30, 2008 (not 1508)
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - A Pakistani lawmaker defended a decision by southwestern tribesmen to bury five women alive because they wanted to choose their own husbands, telling stunned members of Parliament this week to spare him their outrage.

"These are centuries-old traditions and I will continue to defend them," Israr Ullah Zehri, who represents Baluchistan province, said Saturday. "Only those who indulge in immoral acts should be afraid."

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Dan O'Leary, New Britain, Pa. — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:12:21 GMT

God help Pakistan without Pervez Musharraf. In a " no-win" situation, I believe that he was trying to do his best while walking an impossible tightrope. Unbridaled extremism will destroy any hope of a future there, and I would welcome him to the USA if he can get here.

End of an era for Pakistan

Penelope Watson — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:54:47 GMT

too bad so much attention could not be given to honor killings. wake up folks.

End of an era for Pakistan

IMTIAZ FARUQUI — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:57:05 GMT

MUSHARAF DID A GOOD JOB UNDER THE CICUMTANCES, AND DID NOT FLED AWAY WITH BILLION OF DOLLARS, A VALUE HE LEARNED BEING BROUGHT UP IN INDIA , NONE OF THE PAKISTAN BORN AND BROUGHT UP LEADERS CAN DO OR SAY WHAT HE DID BECAUSE HE HAD SOME MORALS. UNLIKE THE PAKISTANI CULTURE WHERE GREED AND CORRUPTION FLORISH IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE. PAKISTAN HAS FAILED AS A NATION WHERE EVERYTHING GOES IN TNE NAME OF RELIGON. THE JUDGES TAKE BRIBES IN COURTS OPENLY, THE CUSROM OFFICERS TAKES BRIBE AS SOON AS YOU LAND ON PAKISTANI AIRPORTS FROM ABROAD, THE POLICE STATION ARE SOLD FOR MILLIONS OF RUPPES PER MONTH , POPULATION GROWTH RATE IS THE HIGHEST IN THE WORLD,WITH THE QUOTA-SYSTEM MORANS CAN BECOME DOCTERS AND ENGINEERS AND HIGH GOVT. OFFICIALS ,AND THE A-GRADERS CAN END UP AS PETY CLERKS , ANYTHING ILLEGAL CAN BE DONE BY PAYING BRIBES AND LEGAL PROBLEMS ARE UNSOLVED. NOT TO MENTION OF ELECTRICTY AND WATER. THE SADDEST PART IS NOT THAT MUSHARAF HAS LEFT BUT THE BADMASH AND THE LOOTERS ARE CELEBTATING TO TAKE OVER THE GOVT.

End of an era for Pakistan

Mubashshir — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 04:19:59 GMT

I don't understand why people are sad. He represented oppression, and dictatorship. He put judges and party leaders under arrest. Now I understand that the new politicians are corrupt. But I would rather have corrupt party leaders who can be removed by other corrupt leaders. Rather than one corrupt dictator. The competition will do some good, where as the general had no competition and therefore did not have to do anything for the people.

End of an era for Pakistan

Mohammed, Ellicott City, Maryland — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:43:43 GMT

I think it is not right for us to judge whether he was a good or a bad person for both the people and the country.
We cannot truly rely on media to judge how faithful he was to Pakistan. If he was a good leader, I thank him a lot for his wonderful services to his country.
If he was one of those corrupt ones, then Allah-u-Alam, only God knows what will happen next.
Salam

End of an era for Pakistan

Asaif-Middx-UK — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:53:12 GMT

Dan O'Leary,from New Britain,Pa QUOTES:God help Pakistan without Pervez Musharraf. In a " no-win" situation, I believe that he was trying to do his best while walking an impossible tightrope. Unbridaled extremism will destroy any hope of a future there, and I would welcome him to the USA if he can get here.
Dan O'Leary, New Britain, Pa. (Sent Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:12 PM)

Do you really need Mush in your country?
Be careful,he may end up spoiling your country and bring along all his crooked cronies[LIKE GHADARI AND SHERIFF] along ,so they can start their dirty tricks and "walking the tightrope campaign there"!
Naa..I think the American public deserves somebody decent living alongside them!

End of an era for Pakistan

IRFAN, OXFORD,ENGLAND — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:55:01 GMT

MUSHARAF WORST MISTAKE WAS NOT PUTTING THE SHARIFS AND ZARDARIS IN FRONT OF THE FIRING SQUAD,HE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT.JUST LIKE THE GREAT LATE JAMAL NASIR GETTING EGYPT CLEAN OF THE CORRUPT MULLAHS.MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON POOR PAKISTANIES! A CONVICTED MR 10% PRESIDENT OF PAKISTAN!BY THE WAY HAS ANYONE SEEN MS BHUTTO'S WILL?