China’s Muslim dilemma in ‘The New Frontier’

R. Hahn — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:00:01 GMT

"Uighur" is the old German spelling, "Uyghur" the appropriate English spelling. And it's NOT pronounced "Weegur" but "ooy-GOOR". The people speak a Turkic language, which is not "Turkish" (Turkish just being one of many Turkic languages). The Uyghur language is most closely related to Uzbek. Uyghurs are NOT "the Muslims of China". They are one of many ethnic groups that are Islamic in that country. The largest one is the Hui, known outside China as Dungan. All these populations together make China, including its annexed areas like Xinjiang, the country with the largest Muslim population in the world.

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A Chinese,Eugene,Oregon — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:00:29 GMT

There was a terror plot earlier this year where an Uighur woman tried to bomb a domestic plane,similar to American fears of terrorists bombing their planes.If it was a hype then you Americans are hypocrytes(No offense).People get killed in the steets of Tibet,because terrorists start attacking Han Chinese.There are barely any of these ethnic groups and they inhabit a large amount of land.The Chinese are just trying to use land efficiently and any destruction of culture is not their fault.

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Helen, LA — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:01:34 GMT

The problems you mentioned, human rights, religious freedom, the enlarged gap between rich and poor, etc. are everywhere in China, it's universal to majority and minority all alike, not just toward to Chinese Muslim. But I didn't read anything that western reporters mentioned anything about the similar policy as affirmative action regarding schooling in China. I never been to XinJiang, I can not say what happened there. But I know it is a policy in all China that minority students can get into colleges with lower scores from the annual college entrance exam, which is highly competitive. Some of my friends were from minority groups, this policy was giving them some kinds of advantages. Like all the policies in China, this one may not be carried through very well, but that's another issue.

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lemoncritic, toronto — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:24:39 GMT

Here's one good reason for the economic gap, education of their children.

Why the Tibetans and Uighurs don't just send their kids to school and learn the truth about the world.

Keeping people stupid and in the dark is the old bygone days, even in most parts of Han Chinese like.

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Ophelia, Mt View, CA — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:26:25 GMT

I understand wanting to expand and grow, but turning everything into a melting pot isn't exactly the way to go about things. A unique diversity is what keeps things, unique. China should be very careful when creeping up to people who don't share the same ideals or even the language as they do.
The Uighurs clearly don't want to be dessimated and become nothing but a memory, but they should be handled with care. The last thing China needs is another uprising from people who don't want to be assimilated into a culture not of their own.

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Deryl, Atlanta, GA — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:44:05 GMT

This is colored by my western view of religious tolerance. I am not sure which one is worse: Official state sponsored religious intolerance or unnofficial religion sponsored religious intolerance. Religion aside it comes down to freedom and how much of that the people of china enjoy. Dont let your government oppress you.

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Leslie Halls — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:06:44 GMT

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OC Girl, Newport Beach, CA — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:07:14 GMT

It's so sad that the Chinese feel the need to oppress people in this day & age! You people are everywhere... there is no getting away from you! Just because your population is over a billion doesn't mean you have the right to control the world! Let the Uighur's live in peace! Stop building so much sky scrappers you can and never will be like the U.S.A so STOP trying!!!!

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headhoncho, Las vegas, NV — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:12:11 GMT

Will see how far murdering Muslims get in China. The Chinese gov. is not worried about political correctness. It will, and should, kill as many of these muslim morons as it takes to keep them behaving in a civilized way. The U.S should take a lesson form China on matters like this.

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Jacob Z — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:23:01 GMT

I have a friend running businees in Xinjiang, he told me it is difficult to find qualified Uyghur workers although the goverment forces him to favor Uyghurs so to have a balanced work force between Uyghur and Han Chinese something similar to the affirmative action in US...part of the problems I see is that Uyghur as well as Tibetan don't have a competitive workforce. Lanuage is another issue but it is a issue everywhere in China.

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KARAHAN ,TX — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:32:52 GMT

Uygur nation is Turks..and their land invaded 1949 from communist china....Tibet has a leader Dalai lama and every world heard their voice.because hollywood akctors supporting Tibet.Uygur nation is alone because nobody supporting them..China's goverment trying to destroy Uygur cultures and trying to them assimalate.

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Tony, Chicago, IL — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:49:33 GMT

Given the lesson's we (Americans)have leanred we should never condone any voilence! Weather it's Chinese, Muslims, or anyone.

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John For Uyhgurs — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:11:24 GMT

Thanks for writing about The New Frontier Land =XinJiang. How can there be acceptance of the Han Chinese by the Uyghurs, when the invaders come in with an attitude of none acceptance of the local people. The english teacher saying:
"Oh, the Uighurs are always complaining about opportunities," Is an example of that a master telling his subject slaves, don't complain, you are lazy, while the slave has no opportunity to look forward to besides slavery. What opportunities, is this teacher talking about, when Uyghurs worry about where their next meal is coming from. Unlike the Han Chinese, who get government help to settle in The New Frontier Land. And this idiot teacher has the nerve to call Uyghurs lazy to quote"But they are lazy and unmotivated. They don’t work hard." How can you motivate people, when you graduate university, you look forward to discrimination by the Chinese and face poverty. From my personal experience, Chinese are the most exclusionary people on earth.
For example, when Chinese people live outside of China, they call the non-Han people wei guo ren meaning foreigners,but in fact they are the foreigners in that land. For Chinese to have harmony in the New Frontier that they occupied , they should let Uyghurs decide their destiny.First letting them control and spend some of that oil and resource money on educating long neglected Uyghurs,Kazakhs,and other minorities.By enabling them to be on an equal footing with the invaders and then judge them if they are lazy. Don't treat them like wei guo ren in their own land that you call The New Frontier Land. Let Uyghurs choose how to practice their Islam, allow them to teach their children, correct Islam when they are young. Banning them from Mosque attendance if the children are under 18 is equal to depriving them of religious freedom.

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AC California — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:22:14 GMT

"This same tactic of overwhelming the local population and destroying the local culture is happening elsewhere, too, like in Tibet. How sad. All these native people ever really wanted was to be left alone."

Think how the Native american Indians felt.

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Mikebarr — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:32:23 GMT

When it comes to Islam and its fundamental desire to dominate the world the Chinese should be applauded for controlling this menace.

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arthur,toronto,canada — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:37:31 GMT

this kind of discussion will lead us no where - so what's the solution? say shall canada shut its border and refuse all immigrants? there's Uighur in every province of china. why can't han chinese move into Xin Jiang ? behind of these high talks - there's sometimes something not that nice

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Terra Gaia, Earth — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:00:47 GMT

China should let the Uighur and Tibetans start up casinos.

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Oguzhan ,Duisburg, Germany — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:04:57 GMT

Uyghurs are Turks, speaking a Turkic Language , which has not big difference to the Turkey-Turkish.
Uyghurs are being killed and prisoned without causes.
Same in Tibet.China does this at all the minoryties living there.
We all together must say "Stop!" if we want a better world in which democracy rules!

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James Lei, Phoenix, Arizona — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:34:18 GMT

I am from western region of China.China is changing so fast that even people from China can not keep up the pace to follow those changes. I go back to China at least once a year and often feel lost to the places I was familiar before. Of course not all the changes are good, they are just part of the changing process. nearly all minorities enjoy some kind of preference on certain things. But in those highly competitive envioment, so many people feel left behind.

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Kursad Karacagil , VA — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:58:21 GMT

Uyhgur they took their name in the region. This region is old turkish teritory... and they are not Han Chinees they are Turks... I think people should learn truth and dont look Chinees perspective

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Dan, Tampa, fl — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:00:40 GMT

The cultures of minorities are protected in China. They are even allowed to have more than one kid.Budhist Temples are open to everyone in tibet.
Lahsa and other sites are full of pilgrims everyday of the year.
I am an atheist, not well accepted in america. About freedom of no religion? How about pushing more of the french language in Maine and Loisiana?

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someone, nyc,ny — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:47:25 GMT

one more issue missed in this article is that XinJiang is one of the major nuclear base of China. If XinJiang getsw independent, not only it will be the largest muslim country in the world by its size, but also a top nuclear power in this world.

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FCC, OC, CA — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:05:40 GMT

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APO — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:08:30 GMT

if you have your own problem in your own country of
ethnic separatist or in china.We have our own problem in the Philippines Island of Mindanao.Filipino people
doesn't learned their mistake.They should not give in
to create another state within the island of Mindanao.
Our forefathers has fought many war and filipinos are brave warrior even to the drop of their blood.This is
exact copy what's happening in your own country china.
Their is always like their is no solution.

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James Lee, Irvine, CA — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 02:07:48 GMT

"All these native people ever really wanted was to be left alone. "

Really? Should we give back the United States to the Indians?

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Allan Cheung, Edmonton, Alberta — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 02:59:26 GMT

"All these native people ever really wanted was to be left alone."

Right on...that was what the native American Indians wanted too! Unfortunately, most of them were being slaughtered. At least the Chinese didn't do that to the Uighurs!

He who cast the first stone...!

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Allan Bohn, Squamish ,British Columbia, Canada — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 03:52:34 GMT

I spent 3 months in Xinxiang autonomous region in 2006. There was an almost papable tension between the Han Chinese and the Urghur population. My sympathy lies with the Urghur people who feel repressed and dominated by the influx of Han Chinese. They have a rich and historic culture that is being threatened by Chinese policies regarding there language,education and Muslim faith. The circumstances mirror what has happened in Tibet.The recent attack on the Police is sadly what happens when a people is cut off from the political process and sees no legitimate way to adress there concerns. I hope the world will take note of what is happening in Kashgar before there is more violence and repression.

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Allan Bohn, Squamish ,British Columbia, Canada — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:05:27 GMT

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William, GuangDong, China. — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:26:12 GMT

I don't think our government oppress me.

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Concerned human, TX — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:41:42 GMT

Any destruction of culture is not their fault? That is the most ignorant statement I have ever read. You can't be serious. Put yourself in the place of Uighurs and see if you can still make that statement.

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Akhmet Najd, Seattle, WA — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:46:05 GMT

The Uyghurs are poor people struggling to survive. Leave them alone and leave them in peace. There is nothing they can do that the Han oppressors cannot do worse.

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Karen Przytulski, Jackson, MI — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:50:11 GMT

I anticipate more tension in the world because of the finite resources of our planet. This is just one more example of how climate change has had an impact on our world. Not enough land, water, food and energy for everyone because of over population. We should all be planning a worldwide equitable distribution of resources and planning for environmental changes. Lets not just single out the Chinese.This article could have been written about several areas and population groups in the US.

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John Wayne, Houston, Tx — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 07:02:22 GMT

The reason the Han Chinese are the majority is because of their work ethic which tranlates into working on education. They are smarter, more productive, and thus earn their superior status by being truly superior. China is on the rise because it rewards the productive. America is on the decline because it robs from the productive to give to the uneducated slackards.

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Shariel, Turlock CA — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:56:41 GMT

Ok first of all china does not have the largest muslim population in the world its actually not even in the top 5. I dont think the people in Xinjiang really care if china controls them or not as long as they can practice their religion and farm their land. State sponsored repression is what will eventually lead these mostly peaceful people to terrorism. Same as everywhere else!!!!

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Dr Mike — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:25:13 GMT

``Firstly, a disclaimer: I am not anti-muslim, however I AM anti-islamic extremists. China will face the same violence as any other nation with growing populations of aggressive religion. The question is; according to the Muslim KORAN, they are SUPPOSE to be violent against infidels. (That's us, the ones that are NOT Muslim). First it starts out as a small community, seems like a promising way of life, then the fundamentalists become aggressive, they begin forcing the remaining locals to "obey" and the next thing you know there are no more freedoms, especially for women and non-muslims. You can attack my words all you want, but they are proven time and time again over centuries. And the real problem here is, people end up be oppressed and killed, over a non existent God and rule book that was written to create obedience to that belief. It's really a disease and it will be the war of wars some day. I only hope that we can prove life on other planets soon, so that SOME of these ignorant believers will see the truth. We are all human, all in the same world and all DIE, belief or not. We have the power to make life so much better for so many people. Repression and oppression is a sick way of controlling populations.

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Jonathan, Cincinnati, Ohio — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:46:38 GMT

I've been living in China for over 9 years now (in Tianjin and Beijing), and I REALLY can't agree with the stereotype that XinJiang people are lazy. I've known plenty of them here to be extremely hard working. However, in various cities, they do also have the reputation of being theives, and I can personally testify to the fact that many of the pick-pockets here are from XinJiang. This can also be explained if you know about a supposedly "secret" agreement that the Chinese government made with the XinJiang people. It's been said by Chinese "in-the-know" here that the communists made a deal that the XinJiang could go around China and steal as long as they didn't hurt anyone and would not give the party any "terrorist" problems. But all in all, I really enjoy the XinJiang people's food, music, art, dance, and traditional architecture. I hope to be able to go there one day.

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Almon, Illinois — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:02:25 GMT

We are in an age when everyone is hated by someone. Increased attacks on people of love will continue to rain on us all. It is a time for all people of love to join together with those of like minds wherever they can and know through faith that love is victor over hate and the peace we share in our hearts can not be stolen by any threat or act of violence.

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simple simon, irvine, ca — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:56:35 GMT

India needs to follow same policies in its Muslim majority provinces as China does in Xingiang and Tibet to promote national unity like mosques must forbidden to broadcast the call to prayer on loudspeaker, imams must be vetted by the state, and young men must be over the age 18 before they can set foot in a mosque. Let the tightly controlled access to Western Press offer lip service to separatist movements. Western leaders can also offer all the lip service they want.

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Fritz, Ridgcrest, CA — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:16:41 GMT

Anyone hear of Hawaii?

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George Peters, Austin, Texas — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:13:49 GMT

Quote from a comment above: "There are barely any of these ethnic groups and they inhabit a large amount of land.The Chinese are just trying to use land efficiently and any destruction of culture is not their fault." If "chinese" is changed to "americans" we get "There are barely any of these ethnic groups and they inhabit a large amount of land.The Americans are just trying to use land efficiently and any destruction of culture is not their fault."
Sounds like the American West instead of the Chinese West. If the Uighurs are being relocated from ancestoral homes, why not go ahead and put them on "reservations"?
The clearest repetition of history, I wonder if it will take them 200 years to be ashamed.

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whomever, FL — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:31:52 GMT

CHINA’S MUSLIM DILEMMA IN ‘THE NEW FRONTIER’ !!!!!!

It should be titled "Uygur's chineese dilemma". Uygur (east turkistan) belongs to uygurs for thousands of years.

China, get out of Uygur. You are the problem. You occupied a muslim land and opressed its people for sixty years.
And then talk about terrorism etc...

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happy sam — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:33:10 GMT

The world is in a mess. A lot of people think muslems are great people. A lot dont know what their koran says. Looking over the whole picture one can see the muslems are expanding and where ever they go there is truble. Its called power there is no other religeon that wants control like the islam. The chineese goverment is wise to keep tabs on it. When anyone blows up women or children and plant roadside bombs and drive cars into food markets, carry on their person explosives with the intension of harming any man woman or child are cowards. why not label them as such..

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Kiat, Kuala Lumpur — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:09:34 GMT

Have we not noticed that the Uighur or Tibetan or even the Chinese who live outside China, be it in Canada or France or America or anywhere for that matter, have learned to live like the Canadian or French, or the American while keeping some of their old traditions and culture. Why then can not the Uighur or Tibetan in China learn to live like Chinese? The trouble with them is, they refuse to accept the fact that they are actually a citizen of China but they want independence! They don't mind to be Uighurm/Canadian/French American or Tibetan American/Canadian/French but not Uighur Chinese or Tibetan Chinese. What nonsense!

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Heather Czerniak, Milwaukee, WI — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:10:30 GMT

I've already decided how I feel about Muslims a long time ago, but I sure hope Muslims are familiar with the iron-fisted methods China uses to deal with enemies of the state. It won't be pretty.

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Joe — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:15:00 GMT

Bottom line: no one in America should be saying or thinking a negative word about China's expansion into its own territories. We in the US of A gave a harsher choice to our natives, genocide or become exactly like us.

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Timothy Liao, California — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:17:22 GMT

I will defend America till the day I die but I STRONGLY disagree with all the Americans who criticize China for its crack down against the Uighurs of Western China. It is politely incorrect to say this but the same dangerous Islamic movement threatening the West is the same that is threatening China. The problem is Americans are so blinded by their absolute conviction to defend freedom of religion they often lose sight of the fact that many of these religions we choose to defend are the same ones that want to see us Americans dead. Conservative Bible Thumpbers are so fearful of Communism or Socialism they are willing to side with Muslim Extremist to just make a point. Liberal American Hippies who can not draw the distinction between the struggles in Tibet to the dangerous unrest happening amongst the Uighers of Western China. Here are a few things to remember: throughout the Cold War, no Communist country ever attacked America directly but it was the Muslim Extremist, the same ones that blinded Americans try to protect with the Freedom of Religion moniker that attacked is on September 11th. When will Americans wake up and realize the biggest threat to the stability of the World today does not come from a Centralized Communist Government but many many small extreme Muslim cells in places like the Middle East and Western China. I have a good friend who is doing a Christian Missions trip to help the Uighers and I am really torn by this because I would love to support him but I can't morally because I really believe that there are elements within the Uigher population that will work to harm all of us if they are not contained by a strong centralized Chinese state.

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whatever — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:30:58 GMT

Assasinating an American associated with the Olympics - with no apology from the government. Instigating a staged/fake terror attack as a pretext to destroy/enslave millions of indigenous people. Having a stooge post a justification for the actions of the government.

This is all done now to give maximum publicity to the fact that this country does what it wants and apologizes to no one. This includes killing Americans.

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Eikin Kloster — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:35:01 GMT

Usually anxieties by Americans of being overrun by a majority of Hyspanics or Europeans being overrun by a majority of Muslims are played down as right wing racism. It's interesting how the same liberals that are quick to play that card will strongly simpathize with people elsewhere giving in to the same fears. In the end, what is diversity? If diversity is to stuff as many different people in the same place as possible, then all ethnic minorities in China should welcome the Han, just like Americans and Europeans have been welcoming millions and millions of Hyspanics and Muslims.

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David Rian,Houston,Houston — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:06:53 GMT

It is always quite easy ,and very common,pointing out the atrocities committed on the muslims by the majority non muslims,what about talking about the demising non muslim minority in the Arab land and the greater middle east ,for example,Lebanon christains,Irag christains,Egpt coptics and in West Asia,Pakistan & Bangladesh the declining hindu population ? Yet the muslims flock in droves to the West for a better life. My advice to the USA mass media ,please stop stirring up problems for the Chinese. You already have muslims enclaves in the USA ,soon ,you will have the same problems the Chinese are facing at your door step !

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Mike in NYC — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:10:00 GMT

'A Chinese in Oregon' writes, "The Chinese are just trying to use land efficiently". I'm sure that justifies the marginalization of the Uyghurs over that last 50 or so years. Then Again, I'm sure you will hear an Israeli fundamentalist say that about Palestine, too.

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John Doe, CO — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:32:19 GMT

The sad part is, the US did the same thing in the creation of this country. We sit here in this society created by pushing the Indians out and complain when another does it. Humans groups/societies have been pushing other groups/societies around since the beginning of human history. I am sure the Uyghur's pushed out some group when they moved in how many centuries ago.

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AJ, Orlando, Florida — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:14:54 GMT

I'm not saying I agree with terrorist tactics or that the Uigher's resorting to such violence is justifiable HOWEVER when you have a minority, or a group of people that don't have the political or economic power to influence better policies for their benefit they always resort to terrorism because that is the only weapon they have. Terrorist groups in the Middle East, Chechnya, Shining Path in Peru, etc. They all had the same poor socio economic political status so terrorism became their only extreme option to draw attention. The problem is that it always draws negative attention rather than force people to look at the real issues of why people are resorting to violence in the first place. The Chinese have a population issue yes, and they are trying to manage the land better yes, but in the process they are ignoring the rights cultural differences with in their own society. China can not force all of its people to be homogenous and totally assimilated when you have minority groups of different ethnicities, languages,and culture. The problem is China's intolerance and refusal to compromise.

Yet on the Flip side the article doesn't go into details about the Uigher's economic opression. By that I mean is their low economic status more self imposed or is it really the fault of the Chinese? Its a dog eat world and competition is fierce so you can't really hate the player, hate the game. The Chinese are expanding and they gotta live somwhere so if they end up on your door step and start having acess to better jobs when you yourself are poorly educated its to be expected. Yet as the article said the Ugher's have not benefited from the development programs so does that mean the educational system has worked against them due to prejudice? Or are the Uigher's turning inward because of the imposing Chinese and become like many of their Muslim brothers who in retaliation to change refuse to educate their children with nothing but the Koran and than complain that the West is keeping them down when their women are all illiterate? I'm just playing Devil's advocate because you can't take a story at face value.

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Pat Atlanta Ga. — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:25:35 GMT

Seems to me the only religions that are commiting acts of terrorism is the Muslim religion. Why is that?

I really feel bad for these people, like Americans, we want to be left alone also.Take your terrorism back to your own country......

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Mr.doe — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:34:40 GMT

if hitlar would have just waited 10 more years to overtake poland, we wouldent have this problem

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william crossen — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:53:43 GMT

This same tactic of overwhelming the local population and destroying the local culture is happening elsewhere, too, like in the united states. How sad. All these native people ever really wanted was to be left alone.

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S. Kay, Pearce, AZ — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:54:26 GMT

The issues are quite sad, as are the many problems that emaniate from ethnic diversity and land control. Of course, land acquisition is just one of the many elements in the agenda to acquire dominance that wreaks havoc on a global scale. Unfortunately, with a world population growth of over 200,000 new people each and every day, these problems are bound to increase as long as greedy humans are in charge. Certain ethnic groups do tend to encourage a blatant disregard for the well being of others and a strong determination for the acquisition of power and control. These dynamics exist globally. Unfortunately, Jesus Christ, the perfect example of love and humility, has become less of a role model, even within the ethnic groups in which he is to be their king. Ethnic groups which do not have Jesus as their role model have little chance of working and living together in harmony.

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Nee Macdonald, Gauteng — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:54:28 GMT

Thank you R Hahn for your input.
As outsiders to a country who has largely kept to itself I believe we should educate ourselves to the situation before commenting on the 'right' and 'wrong' practices we may view as intolerance and / or oppression. [Here the Media has a power that they can and should handle with integrity.]
However, I also firmly believe that each ethnic culture should be the ONLY ones to determine if they wish to be annexed into/taken over by another.
Religous freedoms are exactly that - freedoms, and no power (military/governmental or private group) should be allowed to take liberties and think they have a right to decide who can or cant practice a particular faith. 'Might' does not equate to 'right'.
Should a minority wish to request support to allow them to retain their freedom to live their ethnic way of life, that too, is also for them and only them to decide upon and request.
We, both individuals and ethnic groups, should encourage and value our differences, our uniqueness - it brings a richness to humankind and would allow for a more peaceful co-existance.

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C. King — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:20:00 GMT

The chinese people are an autocratic, rough, spiritles society, with no empathy for their own or humanity. (Look at the blood bank and aids issue) They are at the poing Europe was during the 100 year wars and during colonization and the industrial revolution. The communist party are equal to the feudal lords and colonials where a human hierarchy is set in their mind. Their history is also very vicious and cruel. They are not a trustworthy people, as we can see how they add lead and poisonous chemicals to human and animal food they export. They have not developed the respect for humanity western societies have develope through the enlightment and western philosophy. They are the "nouveau riche" in the this new world, seeking greed and power as in their past dynasties. Democracy, human rights and respect for others cultures and humans will not happen unless they literaly and psychologically "westernize". They have jumped from a medeival society right into modernity. They also beleive they are the superior race and they see Africans asless then human. So any hope for creating world peace and respect and freedom for humanity is not likely. We need to really be very strong with them or they are likely to enslave the rest of us in the next 100 years. Be cautious. (Chinese people living outside of china in western societies would probably be more progressive and understand the issues).

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Manny Lakes,Minneapolis — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:25:40 GMT

I don't think that a communist country, under its ideals, could claim to be a melting pot. The people don't have a choice because it is not a democracy. The history of most Western countries are those of melting pots, I am an reality of that mindset. I know where my people came from, but I also know who I am and I celebrate both. I believe other counteries welcome transplanted people to assimilate into their culture, but assume their own culture will not be lost with transplants. When in Rome, eh.

China’s Muslim dilemma in ‘The New Frontier’

Kurmanov — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:26:29 GMT

All non-Chinese of China(Tibetons,Mongols,Uigurs and Kazakhs)only want to save their culture,languages and religions from assimilation by Dragon Nation.Period.

China’s Muslim dilemma in ‘The New Frontier’

John Doe, Baltimore, MD — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:32:25 GMT

We should not criticize China - islam is dangerous - their god Allah REQUIRES them to kill any non-muslim and to fight for control/domination of whichever land they live on whether as indiginous people or as visitors. Remember Kosovo - muslim migrants from Albania increasingly flocked there and now they have declared independence - outrightly stolen the land from their Serbian (christian) hosts. The US under Clinton and later Bush has helped them islamize part of Serbian teritory. The same happened in Croatia. We should leave China to deal with them as effectively as they see fit. Watch and see -- soon the city of Dearborn, MI will declare Sharia Law.
Read the Koran and note the speeches and writings of Islamic scholars/Imams and you will understand what I am talking about. The terrorists are the true muslims.

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McKinnon Johnstone — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:53:00 GMT

Muslim belief always does its greatest work where ignorance and The Gospel is surpressed. Expect this cancer to grow until "Tubal" (Biblical name for China) the King of the North (Ezek. 38&39) get into a world wide conflict started by PUT (Biblical name for Persia IRAN & IRAQ) when between 2/3 to 3/4 of all the inbabitants of the earth are destroyed.........

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McKinnon Johnstone — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:55:09 GMT

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J. Chang — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:59:33 GMT

It's amazing to read this article, and try to understand its naïve content. Xinjiang is a Chinese province, it’s one six of the total size of China. China is not forcing these people out of the homeland, and telling them you have no right to call yourself Uyghur. The Uyghur are still Chinese citizen, they still have a Chinese passport. China is simply telling its citizens to simply spread out, go west build new cities, develop your country. If the Uyghur don’t want to learn Mandarin and develop their skills, to join the world in the information age, is that the Chinese responsibility? It’s Islam responsibility, they want to stay the way they’ve been. Confucius asked its follower to work hard and learn and develop, and Islam asked its follower to follow a very strict way of life that teaches them how to eat, how to beat your wife, how to kill and everything else. They have a strict well defined way of life that will not let them venture outside of it. They believe they have god’s word and strict laws, they don’t need the Chinese to tell them what’s right and wrong, the Uyghur feels that they know it all and they do not need to learn more. That’s the answer to their source of laziness.

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Carole Clarke, College Park, MD — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:30:10 GMT

Despite the one-child policy, the population of China is increasing at a ferocious rate. They have to go somewhere and have been moving steadily into the non-Han sections of that part of the world, pushing out the previous occupants who lived along the ancient Silk routes. At this rate in 40 years we won't be able to produce enough food for all of us - which will lead to wars. I don't know if there is a solution.

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Antonio Salazar II, Chicago, IL — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:00:28 GMT

The probem is not that the Uighurs are a minority. The problem is the Uighur Muslims who seek to impose Islamic sharia law on the people of China, thereby taking them back to the seventh century. It's about Muslims subjugating native Chinese to a condition known as dhimmitude - slaves to Islam. That cannot be allowed to happen.

I don't know how many people remember the horror of the Islamic fascists at the 1972 games in Munich. The Chinese government is repressive in some way, to be sure; but, compared to fundamental Islamofascists, they're as benevolent as the Minnesota Jaycees.

Here's a situation where everyone wins: If the Uighurs insist upon praying five times a day facing East, then the Chinese government should allow them to emigrate to Saudi Arabia, or another Muslim counttry of their choice. If they refuse, and instead want to impose sharia law on China, then they should take the consequences. Aftr all, the dream of every Muslim is to die for their tribal god Allah, so there also is a win-win situation.

Far better that 100,000 Uighurs die for their tribal god, than innocent athletes be killed, as happened in 1972.

Death is the eternal peace.

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LTN, california — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:22:17 GMT

So a country is full of people and to the west are vast, largely unpopulated areas to move into. It's like manifest destiny all over again. Really, we in America don't have a whole lot of moral authority to stand on. I guess these people are all going to end up living on reservations. Listen to the words of the Chinese person who posted above: "There are barely any of these ethnic groups and they inhabit a large amount of land.The Chinese are just trying to use land efficiently and any destruction of culture is not their fault." Does this sound like some American 150 years ago or what?! China knows it has too many people and it needs to put them somewhere. At least kudos to them for making the effort to control future population growth.

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C Banks, Coalbanks, NWT, Canada — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:42:52 GMT

To A Chinese in Eugene OR: In regards to the (Han) Chineses you claim that "..any destruction of culture is not their fault." Destruction of mosques, temples, monastaries, killing & imprisoning imams, monks, nuns, forbidding religious practice among minority groups in China/Tibet/Xinjiang by the (Han) Chinese IS the fault of the (Han) Chinese, for their benefit.

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Victor, Los Angeles, CA — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:21:18 GMT

The simple solution is to establish Native Xinjiangese Reservations and put them in there. Then, let them build a few casinos. Joking aside, this is all too similar to French Canadians wanting independence, or native Hawaiian complaining they are losing their culture. This happens all over the world (and through out human history). Not just in Xinjiang or only in Tibet.

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Harry k, Columbus,Ohio — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:13:41 GMT

My understanding is that the two emperors prior to the "Last emperor" the Imperial Chinese expended their blood and treasure fighting a Muslim insurgecy in these areas.That struggle left the empire poor,week and unable to resist the subsequent European colonial incursions/invasions of their country.

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usman, Dubai, UAE — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:51:42 GMT

Kashgar is not close to the border with Pakistan, its closer to Kyrgyztan and Tajikistan.

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David — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:13:47 GMT

This same tactic of overwhelming the local population and destroying the local culture is happening elsewhere, too, like in Tibet. How sad. All these native people ever really wanted was to be left alone.

Leslie Halls (Sent Friday, August 08, 2008 1:06 PM)

I am pretty sure thats what the American Native Indians...must have said too...

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Blake Turek, St George, Utah — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:38:05 GMT

Wow! Ethnic groups that are not native to the land moving in and taking control over the native population. And, now the original inhabitants are taking a back seat in both economics and politics. I'm sure glad nothing like that has ever happened here in the United States.

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Kali, San Francisco — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:40:46 GMT

Yes, the problem can be solved by sending Tibetan and Uighur children to school--schools which are run by the same people who are trying to eradicate the local cultures. Maybe, Tibetan and Uighur alike, are content with their way of life.

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John Doe — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:31:48 GMT

Sounds like the Chinese have a handle on potential and real islamaniacs, with any luck they'll continue moving west into the rest of islam and overpopulate it with Chinese and strict religio-fantasy laws. Maybe they will even by-pass Tibet for this opportunity, wouldn't that be awesome?! PS I am not Chinese, I am American RED-WHITE AND BLUE

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Naseem Khan, Dallas, Texas — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:05:22 GMT

It is in fashion today that when muslims in any part of the world stand up and fight for their rights and want to be diferrent they are labelled 'terrorists' but people of other beliefs are fighting for 'Human Rights'.

The western world want a bogey man. First it was the communists now it is the muslims. Come to think of it, the world wars and other wars were not started by either of them yet they are the evil ones.

Western world should look inside themselves and see where things have gone wrong. Don't impose your views on other cultures, respect and accept them as they are another beautiful color in the rainbow as yours.

Live and let live

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Karen Ball — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:18:48 GMT

While we are trying to introduce democracy to muslims that is a strange idea to them, China simply exercises an iron fist and intimidation under the pretense of welcoming all its minorities. Thus we may fail while they may succeed as the time will show.

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Ken Abram, Salt lake City, UT — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:26:33 GMT

Why all the comments must be reviewed and approved - read censored. It is already like in China. Why debating comments by others is such a taboo?
For example, Ophelia is wrong about diversity versus the melting pot. America was much better off during the melting pot times than it is now in times of diversity - read divisivness. Some were certainly interested to end the melting pot and divide the nation. Who they are - you answer yourself.

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William Tell, BIrmingham, Alabama — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:49:27 GMT

What is this ??? from A Chinese,Eugene,Oregon (Sent Friday, August 08, 2008 12:00 PM)"There are barely any of these ethnic groups and they inhabit a large amount of land.The Chinese are just trying to use land efficiently and any destruction of culture is not their fault." ...Then whose fault is it? Sounds like the American West with the Indians..

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Zoe Beale — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:50:57 GMT

Dear "A Chinese, Eugene Oregon" Above,
What are you crazy?! You stated;
"Chinese are just trying to use land efficiently and any destruction of culture is not their fault." Americans are a new culture that destroyed many Native American cultures during colonial times. This was wrong. The reason that it is wrong, is that just because people are few in number and a large populayion wants to use "the land" doesn't make "the land" the property of the larger population. Just because a government decides that land usage needs to be managed does not mean that the government can just run rough shod over people and ruin the lifestyles to which those people are accustomed. Plans must be in place to help people learn new ways and this takes time and effort. Generations to be exact. And only then with extreme care, otherwise,"destruction of culture" will commit destruction of culture on the larger INVADING population in return:) Have a happy life in America:)

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William Tell, BIrmingham, Alabama — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:51:05 GMT

Gentrification is always justified. Especially if economics are involved. Yeah right.

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Get-A-Clue — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:58:09 GMT

Just like the Native Americans...

it's amazing how Americans never see themselves in the actions of others. Looks like America is a good role model for the Chinese, not just in economics, but in minority oppression as well.

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Robert Elkins — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:35:28 GMT

Eventually we will see a single strong republic come out of Central Asis. It may be Kazakhstan or it may be Uzbekistan. That country will swallow its neighbors and then try to annex this region of China in the name of ethnic unity. A world war could result from this.

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simple simon, irvine, ca — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:06:23 GMT

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Duncan Deng, Toronto — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:31:15 GMT

From Han Dynasty (200 b.c.)the Han Chinese's presence in the New Frontier has grown more and more powerful,in respects of economy,culture,military and politics etc..
I believe that the studies or observations on the relationship between the Han Chinese and the Uyghur Chinese should be placed in the historical background.

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Chris, Atlanta — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 05:24:06 GMT

If this was an issue elsewhere, it would have a western spin and be portrayed as terrorism. Its all the same.. Islamic religion tends to harbor destructive properties. How well do you think the U.S. would fare if we were placed on the border of the middle-east? I have a feeling we would be "tightening" up security as well.

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US Muslim — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 05:50:53 GMT

Conditions of the Uighur Muslims are deteriorating because the Chinese are full of drive. Their ambition and ordinary arrogance rules whatever policies they make. With them its all about pride and greed. As a result of indoctrination in marxist philosophy they have no appreciation for traditional Islamic values such as humility, defference to others, polite manners and respect for women.
Uighur women are brutally mistreated by the Chinese and every Muslim knows it is an indignity that cannot be allowed to stand -that helpless people are subjected to near slavery conditions, assault and brutal police repression. Territorial encroachment is the open wound.
As with Tibet- the Chinese have shown their complete disregard for ordinary compassion and human kindness. They don't have it in themselves! How can they appreciate it in Buddist thought? In traditional Islam? They kill, rob and destroy people of religious conviction, Christians included. This vicious trait has not changed since Marx, Mao, Stalin, Brezhnev or Baath party Arabs or persian Mujahiddin Khalq-the marxist terrorist groups in Iraq.
Whenever states mix Islamic peoples with communism and Marxist ideologies millions of Muslims die:
Pol Pot -genocided the Cham Cambodian Muslims, Saddam Hussain 3 million In his reign of terror muslims were the first to die. Stalin killed 20 million 1/3 of them at least were Muslims, MaoTse Tung killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims -None of them ever wanted to be part of a Marxist state. Soviets? countless numbers of Muslims enslaved, displaced,tortured , Mingistu in Ethiopia a large number, Putin 800 thousand in Chchnya a full genocide.
All of these marxist states killed Muslims on a genocidal scale. This continues. The global genocide on Muslim people accross the globe.
That is why no Muslim wants to be like them! We will stay far away from their immoral cultures too!
They are atheists. No Muslims can submit to the authority of Marxist states because they place themselves above God. Above human rights too.

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AHMED,DURBAN,SOUTH AFRICA — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:10:13 GMT

MUSLIMS ALL OVER THE WORLD SHOULD BOYCOTT CHINESE PRODUCTS.CHINA HAS JOINED TOGETHER WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD IN ATTEMPTING TO SUPPRESS ISLAM AND MUSLIMS.STEALING THE PROPERTY AND RESOURCES OF A NATION BRINGS ABOUT REACTION FROM THAT NATION-THEY ARE THEN CALLED TERRORISTS(BUSH LOGIC)

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MR.GOOD WILL, SACRAMENTO, CA. — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:28:18 GMT

THE HAN CHINESE GOVERNMENT SHOULD LET THE TIBETANS AND XINGJIANG PEOPLE TO HOLD A REFERENDUM TO DECIDE THEIR FUTURES; WE HAN CHINESE ANCESTORS ANNEXED TIBET AND XINGJIANG VIA EITHER FORCE OR LURE,THE THEN-TIBETANS AND UIGHURS WENT FOR THIS; BUT NOW WE HAN CHINESE ADMINSTRATION CAN NOT GIVE THEM THE SAME GOOD LURE/ TREATMENTS AS BEFORE,IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THOSE MINORITIES RISE UP AGAINST US;GEOGRAPHICALLY AND HISTORICALL, XINGJIANG IS THE HOMELAND TO UIGHURS AND TIBET TO TIBETANS, WE HAN ANCESTORS ONLY OCCUPIED THESE LANDS AND CARRIED OUT AN IRON-FISTED POLICY OR A CARROT-STICK POLICY TO THEM THE MINORITY PEOPLE.WE HAN CHINESE REFUSE TO GIVE UP THESE LANDS DUE TO ITS RICH NATURAL RESOURCES AND MILITARY LOCATIONS. AND WE HAN MAINLAND GOVERNMENT REPRESS THE UPRISINGS AS CRACK-DOWN ON SEPERATISTS, ACTUALLY, THOSE MINORITIES ARE FIGHTING FOR THEIR INDEPENDENCE ! WE HAN CHINESE EVEN DOG ATE DOG ON THE TIANANMEN SQUARES IN 1989, THE WHOLE WORLD SHOULD REALIZE THAT THE CURRENT CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS RUTHLESS AND SAVAGE;WE THE OVERSEAS HAN CHINESE SHOULD SEE THIS THRU AND AGREE WITH ME TO GIVE FREEDOM TO TIBET AND UIGHUR !

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Herman Hans,Vancouver,BC — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:11:09 GMT

Han chinese are colonist in Xinjiang.They have no right to be in Xinjiang.The Uighurs are a nation and their struggle for freedom is just.

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A native myself — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:11:30 GMT

@ Leslie Halls: All these native people ever really wanted was to be left alone.

Leslie, I totally agree with you, ...these native people, including native American, people of Northern Irland, Morris, Aussie aboriginals. Have I missed any others native people here? please tell me. Thanks.

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Average American White Guy — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:34:40 GMT

It's not terror when it's your own country you are trying to defend from assimilation. Also, the days of "hey they have to much land and aren't using it properly" are over... that is not an excuse chinese man in Oregon... that's just a f'ing pathetic party line excuse. For the record it was a p**s poor excuse when they called it "manifest destiny" also. Some American guy. I don't much care for anyone who preaches extremism, however, sometimes you have to do what you have to do. Just ask George Washington and the Continental Army, I guess they were considered "terrorists" too. : )

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Peter Lee — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:35:03 GMT

If you ask me, I think it's the same tactic the colonialists used in America and Australia, just to name two places.

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SAZZAD,BROOKLYN,NY — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:48:11 GMT

I HOPE, THE DEMAND AND NEED OF 'UIGHURS' POPULATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS ON HUMANITARIAN GROUND. NOT TAINTED WITH RELIGION,ETHNICITY,LAGGING BEHIND,MINORITY OR POLITICS WHICH I BELIEVE MAIN TONE OF COMMUNISM OF MAO.
SAZZAD,BROOKLYN,NY

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Hanglider Pilot — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:16:24 GMT

A sentence buried in this story read "Like Tibet,China's other troublesome ethnic region".That was not lost on me,Tibet is a occupied country,not a region.The Han are being brought into Tibet by the thousands to overwhelm and destroy the people of Tibet.I will grant you that my country is presently engaged in the occupation of another nation but we are just trying to place muscle in a energy rich area for our energy/national security.Oh,and BTW I'm no fan of Islam,I think the only reason its called a "religion" and not "cult" is by virtue of it's size.That said,China reminds me of a spoiled schoolyard bully.

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Michael — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:24:13 GMT

To Hahn,
Really do not know where you got your stats from but the population of muslims in China is not more than 22 million. About 8-9 million in Xinjiang, and about 10 million in Ningxia, Gansu..etc. Where did you get your info from...............the muslim population in China was larger in the past....40-50 million. Some source may show the population as larger than 20 million but these use data from the early 19 century.
The world's largest muslim population if in Indonesia with about 200 million.

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Hanglider Pilot Kona Hawaii — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:35:06 GMT

Oh,and one more thing,you wont be reading any blogs here from someone in China.The Chinese government only trusts their people to make 3$ Christmas lights for Wal-Mart,not to openly and freely discuss issues with a world wide community.I am very thankful to live in the free world.

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Robert Davis — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:40:02 GMT

"We will only approve comments------"

Question: Who is "We" ?
What are your names?
Who gives you authority to "approve" ?

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t. walt, California — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:24:25 GMT

lemon said
"Why the Tibetans and Uighurs don't just send their kids to school and learn the truth about the world."

You dont learn the truth about the world while going to school in China. You learn what they want you to learn, as is the case in all communist states.

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Grace Harkins, Billings, Montana — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:35:00 GMT

It amazes me how naive people are! The history of the world has been the cstrong dominating the weak. There is not one exception I can think of where this has not been the case. Think about it,1 billion, 321 million Han Chinese are going to ignore a vast virtually unpopulated region that also is rich in natural resources. Only a fool would see any other outcome, but the long-term assimilation of ethnic minorities in China.It's funny I've never seen any teepees pitched in downtown Denver.

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Allan Cheung, Edmonton Alberta — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:35:02 GMT

It appears that those who control the discussins here are using censorship more vigorous than that used by the Chinese Government. Only comments that favour the West are allowed! The comment I sent in on Aug 08 has not appeared and I presume, not "approved". While the West criticizes the Chinese Gov't for not allowing greater freedom of speech, it is obvious you are doing exactly the same thing! Shame on you!

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Allan Cheung, Edmonton Alberta — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:37:32 GMT

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mike, washington dc — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:00:20 GMT

I think uyghur people should have all the right to decide their own future. Their future should not be decided by chinese.

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grace, delhi — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:19:39 GMT

I was born in xinjiang and grown up there. Many of my classmate are uyghurs, most of them kindly. Just as mentioned by someone, they can go to college with much lower score and enjoy good education. In addition, I find them can choose their religin freely, I can not see any limit of that by goverment. Just as those poor guys in India, many poor uyghurs have 3-4 kids, casued poor education level, which is similar in every country.

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GBH, USA — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:07:39 GMT

Not very Marxist of them.

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash. — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:52:30 GMT

Who are we as Americans to tell the Chinese how to run their country? It's that perceived right and arrogant sense of entitlement that causes so many forein nations to hate us. Most of China's nukes are in Tibet. Sucks for them, but they are going to be ruled by the Chinese as long as China wants to keep those missles. As long as these other ethnic groups are living on Chinese controlled land they also will have to deal with what they get. I get so sick of hearing everyone blab about what China should do and who China should "free." If China told the United States that they strongly recommend that we increase government control and socialize everything we would laugh in their faces. I find it amazing that they are not laughing in ours.

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jagadees — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:06:49 GMT

All should realise a truth : there are minorities all over the wrold - almost in all countries. IF every minority groups argue for their own nation, it would be catastrophic. All should show some tollerance.I mean both minority and majority. Taking an example of state of kerala (in India) I can say the minorities - muslim and CHristian - are not tollerant. These two minorites comprise 45 percent of the kerala population, but hold 70 percent of the state's wealth and politically dominate in each and every deceision of the kerala government. Then, they argue they are descriminated and do support terrorism (muslims). Unlike hindus in Kerala, these two minorities are religious organised and they can hold ransom the goverment in ciritical issues. there are a lot of examples in recent times. In fact, the majority - 55 % hindus - in Kerala are very much worried about this. In the context of India, I can suggest a solution. If you wish to be a real Secular, keep oneself away from religious instituion.If yhou are a beliver, pleas pray to god in you home. Avoid visiting temples, church, mosque regularly.

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lemoncritic — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:00:29 GMT

yes to that, jagadees.

There are more little nobodies around the world, that have no hope of making a good living in their own country that wants to be king of their own little tribe, a country within a country.

Look at all these little tribal countries popping up around the world, there are wars in every separatist country.

There are more tribal kings in the making in China and they are cheered on and supported by mostly the west, lead by the US.

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Ed from USA — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:01:08 GMT

Has anyone noticed that China just happend to have "human rights issues" when it hosts the Olympics. If America was hosting it would have the same problems. Even American media admits that an Uighur women did try to bomb a domestic plane (By that I mean Time Magazine). The Tibetans may have attacked Hans in the streets of Lhasa(Now why does all of the news about Tibet always set in Tibet?) the same way,I'm unsure about this. In my opinion, Tibet can have some form of autonomy,but can only act like Hong Kong, which may actually help its population(Look at Hong Kong, its population is 6 million, a lot for a city). Quote from the Chinese from Eugene,Oregon "...terror plot earlier this year where an Uighur woman tried to bomb a domestic plane,similar to American fears of terrorists bombing their planes.If it was a hype then you Americans are hypocrytes(No offense)", if someone tryed to bring down innocent people, then they are not innocent.

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samuel aman, ny — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:32:39 GMT

I think that the problem is not Uygur Turks' religon but their ethnics. Because they are not Chinese, and are exteremly stubborn and highborn people. China wants to assimilate them, and makes a very strong pressure on them, unfairly and inhumane way. Also somebodies creat some fake provacative incidents which really werent made by Uygurs. By this reason, China increases its pressure on them. Uygurs Turks are very original, gentle and respectful people. Please leave them alone with their own identity. This way is better for all.

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Chiu,Shifang County,Sichuan,China — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:46:30 GMT

oh!
why not to interview some kazakhs?
there are 13 native peoples in Xinjiang!
Kazakh,Han,Uighur,Sibe,Mongols,Kyrgiz,Tajik,Uzbek,Tatar,Hui,Russian，Manchu and Daur people!
You can ask a Kazak in city of Qoqek, Altay or Ili,Why do you prefer living in China,sending your son to Chinese School? but not immigrant to Kazakhstan. Or ask a Mongol why you prefer living in the Chinese Province of Inner Mongolia ? but not to immigrant to Mongolian Rep.

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LuckyJoe — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:16:02 GMT

Well, I might as well bring this up too. My ancestors were forced from Ireland by the British ( limies) and they came to America fleeing from oppression. They( British ) took our land , took our homes.And tried to force there own religion upon us. Seems like the Uighur needs to assimilate or get outta there cause thats what happened in Northern Ireland. Its almost like history repeating itself all around the world at differnt times and places. This will never stop and never will till the whole world is one with itself...when ever that happens.
Erin Go Brea!!