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Afghan Scouts learn to ‘be prepared!’

Posted: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:56 PM
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KABUL – In the United States, being a Boy Scout or a Girl Scout is just one of many diversions offered to kids. 

But here in Afghanistan, it’s not simply a diversion – it’s a matter of survival. The worldwide scout motto, "Be Prepared" ("Tayar Osay" in Pashto) takes on a larger, more urgent, importance in this war-torn country.

We could see that clearly at the Alluhodin Orphanage in Kabul on a recent afternoon. Twenty girls, who had been selected out of hundreds at the orphanage to be Afghan Scouts, were training for their safety badges. 

A round of first aid demonstrations was being led by Zainab Ramin, a 16-year-old who came to the orphanage four years ago from Mazar-i-Sharif after her parents were killed in the war with the Taliban.

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At first, she and her younger sister went to live with their only relative, an uncle. But he and his wife would not allow the sisters to attend school.  "[We] just worked in the neighborhood houses like washing clothes [or] taking the garbage outside," recalled Zainab. A neighbor took pity on them and suggested they go to the orphanage.

"We go to school and study our lessons.  It’s so good for us, and also we are so happy," she said. 

Zainab especially enjoys being an Afghan Scout and admires its values. "A Scout has good character," she said. "A Scout is kind."

Inspired by an old scout
She joined the program after it was launched this summer by PARSA, an Afghan non-governmental organization that works on grassroots development programs. It is currently overseen by Marnie Gustavson, a Seattle native who spent part of her childhood in Kabul during the 1960s.   

Image: Sixteen year old orphan Zainab Ramin
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Sixteen-year-old orphan Zainab Ramin wants to be a "brave" Afghan Scout.

Gustavson got the idea to launch the Afghan Scouts from her 28-year-old son, Reese Hume, a former Boy Scout, who has lived in Kabul for the last two years working with PARSA. The pair was traveling in Bamiyan when they encountered a car stuck in snow. "Reese stopped the car to help them and actually had the materials in the back of the car to do the [job]," said Gustavson. 

She realized it was her son’s Boy Scout background that had taught him to be so well-prepared.  So she asked him if he wanted to start an Afghan Scouts program.

Hume, who used to work in a children’s rehabilitation center in Seattle, didn’t hesitate.  "The kids here are so much more open and curious," he said. 

In August, Troop 001 was initiated, consisting of 20 boys and 20 girls aged six to 17.  The Afghan Scouts have created their own oath and rely on donors to sponsor each troop.

A scout legacy
The Afghan Scouts actually have a long history; the first camp was established in 1931 and became a thriving nationwide institution until the communists took over the country in 1978.  The Russians folded the Scouts into the Soviet Young Pioneers, a movement started under the Communist Youth League in the former U.S.S.R. that was also notorious for encouraging children to spy on their own families, neighbors, and classmates.  

During the 1990s, the Scouts sought to re-establish themselves in Afghanistan, but their efforts foundered under the Taliban, which banned girls from joining.

The newest version of the Afghanistan Scouts Association was re-started in conjunction with the Ministry of Education, and in at least one way captures the idea of a hopeful, more contemporary society. 

"In the U.S., we have Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, they are two separate organizations, which run different programs," noted Gustavson. "It’s kind of ironic really that here in Afghanistan, boys and girls are together, the same."

Getting ‘life skills’
The Afghan Scouts also differ from the U.S. scouts programs in another fundamental way.

"Girl Scouts in America is … a learning activity," said Gustavson, who was an American Girl Scout herself as a pre-teen. "But it’s not as essential as our program is right now on all different levels. We will integrate … much more adult skills."

And that, right now, is the whole point of the Afghan Scouts.

Scout medical training is a major part of the program at the orphanages. "It’s very, very relevant for the Afghans, where in the U.S. they may or may not ever need to use those skills.  But with these children, it could be a matter of life or death," said Gustavson. 

It’s also about preparing the children for adulthood. 

"The kids in the orphanages get schooling," said Yasin Farid, a founder and the National Director of PARSA.  "But they don’t get life skills."

So the Scouts program is designed to equip them with the skills and confidence so that "by the time they leave the orphanage, they can sustain themselves," said Farid.

Still, it’s not that easy for Afghan girls, no matter how much training they receive. 

Image: Shafiullah Habibi
Adrienne Mong / NBC News
Shafiullah Habibi just turned 18 and will have to leave the orphanage soon.

Where do the girls go?
A critical social question is what to do with the children who, according to Afghan law, must leave the orphanage when they reach the age of 18.

Shafiullah Habibi, whose confident demeanor belied his anxiety, just turned 18. "Next year, I don’t know," he said when I asked him what he thought 2010 would have in store for him. He has lived at the Tai Maskan orphanage for nine years.

He said he has two older brothers who live and work in Iran, but they don’t send any money home. Since Shafiullah also has two younger sisters he needs to start looking after, he will probably have to start looking for a job. "If they let me [stay] in the orphanage, I will continue my [education].  If they won’t let me, I should go to work."

But he didn’t know what kind of job he will be able to find.  "I am scared," he admitted.  "Because outside [the orphanage] is very dangerous."

Saliha Farid, a PARSA social worker, explained that options for young Afghan men are limited once they leave the orphanage. "After finishing their education, boys have the option to go to the military – to the government side or the insurgency side to earn money," said Farid. 

Shafiullah said that he would never join the military on either side. "I would like to die …helping my people. I don’t want to go outside Afghanistan.  There are two countries I never want to go – Pakistan and Iran," said the young patriot. "I hear if I go at this age to Pakistan, they will train me as a suicide attacker and send me back to Afghanistan."

But what are the options for the girls? "Girls are not allowed to live alone in Afghanistan. Or with each other," said Gustavson. "They must be with their extended family, or they get sold off to a family, or they’re married off."

Gustavson is considering setting up a boarding school for girls in this age bracket. "We’re looking to pilot it and to show that it works and get the girls all into college so they can get on with their lives."

But in the meantime, girls like Zainab face a very uncertain future that too often seems without hope.

Zainab will turn 18 in two years, but she is already worried about her own future and that of her country.

"My uncle is not ready to let us study and finish our school," said the girl who dreams of becoming a psychologist.  Like Shafiullan, she believes in helping her own people.  "That’s what a scout is. We are getting ready for the future of Afghanistan …We can help the people."

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It is a sad commentary that there are "No Comments" on this very insiring story.  It should be making headlines and be an example for those of us in the U.S. who have so many blessings.  As a former scout, I take pride in the fact that Afghanistan has its own Scout movement.  Well Done MSNBC!  
AS A YOUNGSTER I OBTAINED THE RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT. AS AN ADULT I HAVE USED THE LESSONS LEARNED IN SCOUTING THROUGHOUT MY LIFE, THE VALUES HAVE SERVED ME WELL, IT IS A VERY GOOD PROGRAM AND I WISH THE SCOUTS OF AFGANASTAIN GOOD LUCK
Thanks for the story. I've donated to the orphanage and asked for information about a sponsorship.

It is sad we have to make war in this country to stop terrorism; we should help economically before a country gets to the point where it's people can be twisted to suicide boomb and make war on others/us. I believe terrorism flourishes because people are hopelessly trapped in a despairing situation where life can be worse than death, and they have no way out.

Some may feel it is not our problem. But, I dare say we will never have to spend more money than when we invest billions of dollars a month into a war effort that also expends lives on both sides.
How do they get around the "must believe in God" situation with the Scouts? All of these children cannot be Christians in Afghanistan?
Reverend Ron: The Boy Scouts of America is not a Christian organization. It is open to any organized religion. I would assume that the scouts in Afghanistan, assuming that the oath is patterned after the BSA, promise to be reverent. That would apply to those that follow the Muslim faith, the dominant religion in Afghanistan. This is a very uplifting story!
Reverend Ron, are you saying that one must be "Christian" to believe in "G-D"?  Are you saying Jews and Muslims do not believe in "G-D"?  I never realized that the scout program discriminates against Jews and Muslims, let alone Hindis, Buddhist, etc.  Hopefully the Scout program doesn't recieve government funding.  
As an Eagle Scout I can think of few things that will be better for Afghanistan than the scouting movement in the long run.  The kids that you see in those uniforms are the future leaders of the Afghani people.  By the way Reveren Ron, Muslims do believe in God, they simply call him by a different name.  There are many Muslim Boy Scouts in the USA as well.  
In response to Reverend Ron, even the Boy Scouts of America is not a "Christian" organization.  Most Scouting organizations require a belief in a god or even gods, but not necessarily the God we worship as Christians.  This is evidenced by the many religious recognitions a Scout may earn, including Catholic, Morman, Hindu, Muslim, Protestant, and many others.
Wow!! what a great idea. Scouting is a great way for kids to get involved in charity work and have allot of fun. Bravo
Reverend Ron, you are very ignorant of what it takes to be a Scout.  The Scouts include many religions.  You may earn a religous embelm for 26 different religions including Islam, Buddhist, Jewish, LDS, Baha'i, Hindu, Meher Baba, and many Christian sects.  All these religions believe in a greater being then ourselves which is the requirement of belief of the Boy Scouts.
The name Allah means God. Trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent.
On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.

A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly,
courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty,
brave, clean, and reverent.

Like others, this Scout oath and Scout law has stuck with me for life!

I wish the best for these Afghanistan scouts!
For those who doubt the importance of scouting doubt no more.
I am over 50 years old and still use many of the skills learned in the Boy Scouts in Brooklyn, NY.
This is one area where we can help spread useful skills and a positive perspective which can help both countries. Imagine using the scouts to divert a person who might have become an insurgent or suicide bomber. More than just becoming involved in charity work, these scouts can spread a positive message and save lives through their first aid training.
Unbelievable!!!
How did religion take over this article?
I personally think that religion has absolutely nothing to do with the story.

It IS a great inspirational story none the less.

GO SCOUTS !!!
The "must believe in God" part of scouting appears to be peculiar to the US, as most US scout troops are sponsored by local churches. It is the churches, not scouting itself, that insisted on that religious entanglement. Elsewhere in the world there are Buddhist scout troops, and scout troops unaffiliated with any religion.
I know for a fact that one can be any faith at all and still be in the Boy Scouts. I myself am agnostic, as is my wife. But our son is in Boyscouts, and our daughters are both in Girlscouts.

The confusion is probably engendered by the fact that scout troops must be sponsored by  a business, orginazation or church. Most of them are indeed sponsored by a church, and their programs tend to reflect the religion of that church. But there are a number of non-denominational troops sponsored by non-religious organizations and even businesses. My own kids are part of troops sponsored by a community organization known as the Lion's Club.

I'm really glad to see scout values brought to this wonderful country (Afganistan). These girls and boys look like scouts that their parents can really be proud of. I wish them well in their uncertain future. But if they're anything like the scouts I know, they'll manage somehow. Scouts persevere.
Thank you for the wonderful story.  As Paul S. pointed out these are their future leaders.  Like in all other countries, Scouts become leaders in small and large ways.  In the story, the one man is liking of starting a boarding school for females his age.  I am inspired and see hope for this war torn country.  Reverend Ron, please educate yourself in the future.  
What happens to those boys and girls who don't believe in any gods???? They sure can't be reverent if they don't believe in god!!! So does this disqualify them from becoming a girl or boy scout???   God bless these girls and boys.    
 
An exciting story because the ideals of Scouting which I learned in my youth have stayed with me even as an old adult.  The leadership skills I developed as Senior Patrol Leader and in Boy Scout camp staff positions taught me self-reliance and survival skills that will be essential for young afghans as they grow their society to embrace service, trustworthiness, kindness, reverence [nondenominational], and other qualities that value ALL citizens as exemplified by The Scout Law, Motto, and slogan. I am excited for them and for Scouting's possible role!
Scouting is such a great idea as well as the boarding school for girls.
Reverend Ron: God can be many things to many different people.  Muslims and Jews believe in one god too.
Paul S: Actually, the name Allah is simply Arabic for God. Christians who speak Arabic also call their God Allah.  So, they are really the same name.
Wow, amazing story!  I really do hope and pray that the war ends and these children have a bright future.  When people ask "why are we in afganistan", they should read this story.  As the boy said, they war is how everyone in that area is making money.  Either you get a job with the government fighting insurgents or you get a job with insurgents fighting the government.  That is no way to live...  I am also going to look into donating to the orphanage and to the scout program.  

Also to Rev Ron:  Muslim believe in God. In fact they believe in Jesus (peace be upon him) too, as well as Moses, Abraham, Noah, etc all the way back to Adam (peace be upon them all).  You can say that Muslims believe in the same god that Jesus did, that Moses did, that Abraham did, etc.  Technically, Muslims pray to the same god as Christians and Jews.

The only difference being some christian faiths pray to Jesus directly and/or call Jesus god (i.e. "Our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ"; or "our Lord, God, Jesus Christ"), while muslims believe that no other being (alive or departed) can take the place of God, and god should be worshipped and prayed to directly.  Muhammad (peace be upon him) is merely a messenger in Islam similar to Moses and Jesus and Abraham.  There are no prayers in Islam that pray TO Muhammad or ask Muhammad for help in any way, but there are prayers TO god, asking god to bless Muhammad, as well as to bless Abraham, Jesus, Moses, etc..

I'm a Boy Scout, and really you could be any religion (or Atheist even), and be fine! Our troop wouldn't care. Satanism MAY be questionable! Go Afghan Scouts!
How could a Christian clergeyman not realize that Christians Jews and Muslims all worship the same god?
great idea
Great to see some reporting on one of the many successes that have occurred in Afghanistan since the fall of the Taliban. As a former scout, I believe that this program is highly important and hope that it continues to grow. Reverend, as has been pointed out, christianity is not, in fact, a requirement of membership in the BSA, but rather reverence. There are religious awards for dozens of world religions that are available to scouts. All this aside, this is still not even BSA, but rather the Afghani Scouts. They may not even have such a requirement to their membership.
The Boy Scouts is open to anyone who believes in God and Country whichever God and Country that may be.  They DO discriminate against atheism and immorality which is why they get VERY LITTLE, if any, USofA government support.  Sad commentary on where our governments priorities are.
This is a Great article.  I am so happy to see Scouting in Afghanistan.  I am an Eagle Scout here in the US and know how the skills and character I have learned have helped me throughout life.  I can only imagine how the young adults can profit from scouting in a war torn country.  What a great way to share knowledge and life lessons to young adults.  I am still involved with Scouting as an Asst. Scoutmaster here in Mississippi.  I see its benefits on our children (from different backgrounds like divorce, hard times and this economy.  I can only imagine the childrens challenges over in Afganistan.  If you want to make a change in a childs life with values, you must be willing to give.  Try Scouting.  It's very rewarding.  
As for Shafull's comment that he would never go to Pakistan as he would be trained as a suicide bomber is nonsense, for we have lived in Pakistan all our life,while nobody forces us to be a suicide bomber on the contrary we are discourged to do so, on the top of it it is the best place for the the migrants all around the world.
As for Shafull's comment that he would never go to Pakistan as he would be trained as a suicide bomber is nonsense, for we have lived in Pakistan all our life,while nobody forces us to be a suicide bomber on the contrary we are discourged to do so, on the top of it it is the best place for the the migrants all around the world.
Muslims believe in God. The fact that they have a different word for it reflects the fact that they speak a different language. Duh.
My humble blessing to those sols who are helping Afghan kids in this manner. It would be helpfuf for our friend the Reverend Ron to know that more than 1500 years before the birth of Jesus Christ, people of Afghanistan beleived in a single God, alongside with those in Iran and most central Asian countries under the Persian Empire. Zaratushtra,the Zarastorian profit was the first non-Semitic who invited masses to monotheism, and later when Sirous the Great freed the many Juish tribes from Babilon & they came to Iran many of the Zarastorian believes entered Judaism such as hell and heaven that is why Sirous is the only non-Semitic called masaya in the bible.
Is there a way for an American Boyscout troop help a troop in Afganistan get established. I am a Boyscout troop leader and think its great that the scouting life has again awakend.
I am 53 and was a scout and it has helped me greatly in life. We have also had three exchange students from Afghanastan and they along with other foriegners have said they like the way Americans share duties with their spouses,which they haven't witnessed.I think it is the way you are raised and scouting is a part of that.
Finally a "Real" story! Hats off to the author-well written.
At the very least a small segment of thier society is instilling real value in these children and helping to try to prepare them for an uncertain future.
Since the scouting program appears to be working quite well, it seems the next steps for those exiting the orphanage and the extreme challenges they will face, is the new frontier for them.
Afterall-no matter where you are-worlwide-the children are our future. I sincerely hope they are given the opportunity to do well for themselves.
That is a cause I would sponsor if the option ever came to fruition.
Ours is a sad society in that very few people have actually read this story and commented on it.  People no longer search for inspiration that these young kids cherish in Afghanistan, rather our society strives on drama and meddling, such as the case with Tiger Woods currently.  On top of it there just had to be one negative comment from a self-proclaimed Reverend to try and kick-start the drama with this story.  

This is a good report and very uplifting to see these kids with the struggles they face each day to press forward with goals and accomplishments.  Not easy to do when it seems the entire system you live under is conspiring against you.  MSNBC keep bringing us these reports.
I think of living in a war ravaged area and all the challenges that would entail.  Then I think of the youth and what possible role models they could have.  It would seem to me that basic survival would be the order of the day.  Simply to find some sort of organized positive leadership plan is incredible.  I was a Boy Scout in a military community.  We have all nationalities.  I understood other boys had other beliefs, but never did I doubt they prayed to a higher being.  Bigotry and finger pointing will accomplish nothing.  Brotherhood and sacrifice will.  My kudos to  the young men and women undertaking this courageous journey.  I feel honored to have been part of the Scouts and what it has created. They are my bretheren.
why does it always have to involve religion?  it's because of religion that so many wars have been fought in the first place. let it be rev.  just be happy that these poor souls have a chance to better themselves and their country.
I was a Scout from age 8 to 16. The things I learned have followed me my entire adult life, often saving my bacon and that of others. Scouting is something I have always believed in, and I will forever consider myself a Scout!
When Baden Powell in England first designed the scout program, the intention was to bring world peace through the actions and commraderie of our youth.  His theory was that scouts worldwide would share a bond and as generations go on it would result in peaceful collaboration.  By instituting scout programs in places like Afghanistan, Powell's vision will eventually be realized, and these youth will be taught necessary life skills.  

I'm left to wonder how I can help lead my local unit to positively contribute to these international programs in war-torn areas.  As such, I will go back to my American scouts and plant a seed, and then wait and see how they nuture that seed.  I'm often amazed at what they do with such opportunities.  
Having been a Scout, it is edifying to see comments from so many people like me for whom Scouting was a great experience, teaching ethics and practical skills. Afghans are good people (Taliban notwithstanding) and the country has so far to go... the values taught by Scouting are the best counterpoint to the sort of corruption, violence, and despair in war-ravaged places.  Great story.
good article,hopfully these young people will be a part of the future for their country
I am impressed that the Afghan youth are being trained to "do [their] duty to God and [their] country and to obey the Scout Law; to help other people at all times; to keep [themselves] physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight." I know that the Scouting program will teach them to be "trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent." I was a Boy Scout. I have an Eagle Scout for a son. I know that the Afghan youth were dreaming of, and aspiring for, a great future when I was teaching then as rural development trainees in Kabul back in the 60s. At that time there was peace and extreme religiousity. Traffic stopped when they prayed together five times each day. At that time there was no violent conflict between the Shia and the Sunni, the two major Muslim sects. Bravo to all those who are behind the Scout movement in Afghanistan. Now there is another opportunity for keeping the 18-year-olds to remain faithful to the Scout Law by giving them continuing education and jobs. These young Afghans can be good examples to their elders. They can have a great influence on others, especially their leaders. Just an idea for the almost 40,000 American soldiers who will soon be dispatched to Afghanistan. God bless you all.
Well said to many of you! Religion, paticulary the Christian Religion was part of the original base of the original scouting plan. When it was recognized that boys from non-christian faiths had paralell interests and goals, not only personal but religious ones as well, the different badges recognizing their faith was adopted. There is nothing in the scout oath which is objectionable to any of them.  That there is differences in tenets between different christian groups is understood by anyone that has been deeply involved in scouting or religion. It only creates a problem for those not willing to respect anothers beleifs such as communism, extreme socialism and extremest such as the Taliban and Sharia Law.
I didn't get the eagle rank but, participated in the Order of the Aarow and even today use knots, and safety skills in work and play. I did finish the rank of Life Scout and have worked with some youth through scouting. I eventually taught industrial first aid and all those scouting skills made it all that much easier to do. Even a minimal amount of scouting teaches so much that there isnt' room here to put it all.  I have had to deal with others broken bones, dislocations and my own broken leg 4 miles away from anything by myself.  I had the knowledge and was prepared enough to deal wiht it.

When you don't have parents, this program could save whole communities a lot of grief. It helps in giving the background and base to making good life's choices and meeting basic life sustaining living requirements.  It can only help!
I pray that they succeed in their endeavors.
With so much discussion about God in the above comments,if I read this article correctly, it stated that the Afghan Scouts created their own oath, so we do not know if there is any reference to God of any sort.

This is the Afghan Scouts Association. This is not the same scout organization as the Boy Scouts of America. It sounds like there are some aspects that have similarities. It is being used as a tool to prepare these young people for life in their part of the world and their culture, much like our own BSA does in our country. "Be Prepared" is right!

Many blessings to all involved.
The scouting movement in both England and America came into being during the First World War and blossomed during World War II as well.  I don't think this was an accident.  The skills being taught may have very well been necessary for survival during those times.  Scouting was preparing our youth for whatver might come their way.  It looks like the scouting program is doing that for Afghani youth as well.  Baden-Powell said that "scouting is a game with a purpose."  Well said, BP.
I would like to know if these scouts are segregated. I was just at an Afghan orphanage, and the boys and girls were in different rooms. Girls are second class citizens still, so it would be interesting if they are attempting to get past that. Demeaning women is not what the scouts are about.
I am an Eagle Scout also. I grew up in Seattle, and my troop 186 was, and still is the greatest experience of my life. I travelled to Belize, Honduras, and Japan going to "International Jamborees" with Scouts from many nations. It was so amazing to be around people my age from other places. It makes you realize that politicians are usually the face of a country, until you meet its citizens. Scouting helped break down the door of ignorance. I saw that all those other people were so much like me. Go Afganistan...Id love to come to a scouting event in your country...Taliban Schmaliban
In the picture, there is a little blue badge on the scout's right pocket.  It is the same badge that we scouts all over the world wear, called the "World Crest"...a reminder that we are all brothers in spite of our differences.
A home for orphaned teenage girls is essential in this kind of situation. Without a place to call home the girls are numbered among the most vulnerable members of society.
My husband, myself and three other kiwis started a very similar project in 1999 in Tajikistan, Afghanistan's northern neighbour. Although now back in NZ we have ongoing updates about the girls. The project has made an enormous difference in their lives. Go PARSA!


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