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In China, battles over a new wall

Posted: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:09 PM
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BEIJING – Twenty years after the toppling of the Berlin Wall, another "wall" is facing intense public scrutiny in China.

The so-called Great Firewall of China, the online filtering and surveillance program run by the communist government’s Ministry of Public Security, is alive and well and censoring freedom of expression for millions of Chinese.  

But over the past few months, Chinese discontent with the Great Firewall has bubbled over with increasing frequency and fervor.

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SLIDESHOW: Celebrating the fall of the Berlin Wall
Chinese netizen's ire was recently sparked by the Green Dam censoring software that was proposed last summer and the blocking of popular social media pages like Facebook and Twitter during the Uighur riots in Xinjiang in July. 

The censorship during the Uighur riots caused such consternation online, it sparked one bitter Chinese Twitter user to mournfully tweet that day, "Today, two ‘140s’ were killed in China – 140 people in Xinjiang and 140 character micro-blogging service Twitter."

It is perhaps fitting then that the Great Firewall should find its opposition in another online medium: Twitter.

The Berlin Twitter wall
The most recent incident occurred late in October when organizers for the Culture Project Berlin, a non-profit organization in Germany that promotes art and culture, created an online "Berlin Twitter Wall" where German tweeters were encouraged to share their memories of the tumultuous times surrounding the fall of wall 20 years ago.  

However, when organizers also asked tweeters to write about, "which walls still have to come down to make our world a better place," the global response was sudden and overwhelming.

The site was soon flooded by over a thousand comments from China complaining about the infamous Great Firewall. Chinese netizens, who circumvented the government’s usual blocking of Twitter by using proxy servers, had suddenly transformed the online memorial site into a protest against 21st century forms of censorship.

Chinese censors were relatively slow to respond to the swift outpouring of anger, taking a couple days before finally blocking the website hosting the Berlin Twitter Wall. By then though, the damage had been done. Prior to the blocking, Carsten Hein, a director of the project estimated around 1,500 of the around 3,300 comments posted on the page were in Chinese.

Showing the resourcefulness and the doggedness of China’s netizens, even after the site was blocked, posters in China were still visiting the website and leaving messages on the Twitter wall.

One user wrote, "Mr. Hu Jintao, Tear Down the Great Firewall!" putting a twist on President Ronald Reagan’s famous words to his Soviet counterpart Mikhail Gorbachev in 1987 imploring him to "Tear down this wall!"

Another poster, appealed to President Barack Obama to take action during his visit to China later this month writing: "Mr. Obama please ask Mr. Hu to tear down the GFW, insure Chinese people use Internet free."

Shifting plates of change
The outpouring on the Berlin Twitter Wall are representative of how over the past 20 years, the Internet has not only unequivocally changed how the world communicates, but how it perceives freedom of expression.

For China though, perhaps the more interesting storyline is the quiet, but increasingly frequent clashes that occur between two large, disparate groups that make up of China’s social, economic and political bedrock: China’s youth and its government.

In the 20 years since the fall of the Berlin Wall, China internalized the shocking collapse of Communism in Eastern Europe and its own scary brush with democracy with the Tiananmen Square protests the same year.

In the past two decades, economic prosperity and the incremental opening of personal freedoms has silenced the calls for greater democratization that was at the center of the 1989 student movement in China. Today’s Chinese youths have largely shifted their focus on improving their social and financial condition and are mostly passive about expressing any misgivings they may have with government restrictions on individual freedom. 

To that point, China’s public security minister, Meng Jianzhu, recently held a press conference calling for even greater security over the country’s Internet network. 

The idea of even tighter control seems shocking when one considers that Internet access in the vast Xinjiang region was effectively cut off for months after the Uighur riots this past summer.

Still, things like the  Berlin Twitter Wall and the outrage over the proposed Green Dam censoring program show that when China’s censorship mechanisms impinge on the freedoms now expected by China’s youth, the two societal plates push against each other and with increasing frequency, the government is being pushed back slightly. (Examples here and here).

It is likely that today will be just another day here in China and one shouldn’t expect mass demonstrations calling for the toppling of China’s Great Firewall anytime soon.

But, 20 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the spirit of those heady days still resonates here and burns bright deep behind China’s other Great Wall.

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It's an interesting thing - censorship

As we shout hatreds towards the censorship of the chinese government, so to does the very website provide censorship on the comments about the article on censorship!

"PLEASE READ: All comments must be approved before appearing in the thread; time and space constraints prevent all comments from appearing. We will only approve comments that are directly related to the blog, use appropriate language and are not attacking the comments of others."

Is this not censorship as well? While we argue about online freedom of expression, we must admit that in certain situations censorship is necessary such as this online comment board. For were there no censorship, the comment board would be full of unrelated comments or even attacked by a variety of nastier online comment spam software. So even though we all hate the idea of government intervention, in some situations - even in China's, censorship may serve a purpose. I don't agree with it, but I can see how it may be necessary to fit in with Chinese policy.
Mr. Douglas,

The reason for that policy is too many pople use these venues to advertise porn or dating sites. I have seen it especially on blogs involving sports. The comments can be cruel and violent and should be striken as well. You would be shocked by what people will say on these blogs. Check it out and you will see.
There is a huge difference between outright censorship and a blog owner trying to keep content focused "on content". The Chinese firewall is outright censorship - what you are complining about is not.

For example, what if I responded to this blog with "The Jeep XXXX is a great car, etc, etc....."??? My comment would have absolutely nothing to do with the article and the author has the right to delete it.
James Douglas, you are right on!!!! Western media can be as manipulative as dictated by commerical and culturally-influenced bias. You think CNN would run a piece crital of Mr. Turner? Another case in point, it's chic to bash China - in today's MSNBC news report, it is headlined " CHINA EXECUTES NINE UIGHURS OVER ETHNIC RIOTS", when clearly if you read the article, it admits eight are Uighurs, and one is a Han Chinese. Is that just on oversight for such an incindiary subject? It also fails to balance the sentiment of the event by not mentioning that in a sepatate trial in Shenzhen in Southern China where the incident (Han workers attacked Uighur co-workers for allegedly molesting Han women)that caused the riots originated the court sentenced only several Han-named persons to death and long sentences, and no Uighurs, to my recollection.
Ah James...the ole' distraction technique.
i guess i dont know as much about china as some of you do but i sure am glag i wasnt born there i would have spent most of my life in prison from what i have seen about thier government
Walls that hold people within are the problem,(berlin wall)NOT walls that keep people out!
Tom Hargrave, your example is only an assumption that only unrelated comments, or outright spam is banned. Let me state a counterpoint based on personal experience. I submitted a comment critical of Melinda Liu (the original blog author of an article also on the Xinjiang riots), I highlighted my reasoning for her biases. It was not accepted even though I used no derogatory terms, whereas zillions of other pro-author pieces were accepted even though the stated times of submission were much later than mine. NO-filtering, when it hurts? Don't kid yourself.
Ironic of all is that China has a voice in the UN - that despite horrific human rights and negligible contributions to anything not self serving. I especially love it when China condemns Israel - for protecting itself - while China executes how many people a year?
Mr. Douglas,
With what you are arguing here, you'd might as well say that shouting "FIRE!" in a large crowded theater when there is no fire is censorship as well. However, while shouting fire in a theater when there is one is fine, it will cause a stampede; and in the case of no fire, the chance of people getting hurt or killed in said stampede is not outweighed by the greater danger of a real fire. There are times and places for everything, and much as a non-fire situation in a theater is no time to shout that there is one, this blog is not for advertising insurance coverage or products to increase the size of male genitals.

Now on topic. It is well known that after humanity moved out of Africa and into our various corners of the world, cultures took their own independent paths. Some ended up similar, and others very different. It seems to me, that Western civilization and Far Eastern civilization, while different, have meshed very well since the globe started reconnecting in the 1600s. I'm not talking about wars here, there are always wars, I just mean that many Westerners seem fascinated with Far Eastern culture and vice versa, and immigrants from each culture have blended well in the other over the past couple centuries.
We go toe to toe with the Chinese because of political differences and the fact that we do not want to be trampled by the iron boot of communism, but as great things came from the Japanese-Western meshing when they were freed from their Emperor, I can't help but wonder what great things will be achieved when the Chinese free themselves from their own politiburo.
All countries, even the U.S., have firewalls blocking access to specific websites. Not to mention sophisticated monitoring of Interenet traffic.
Actually what Mr. Douglas is saying even though he spoke it wrong is there is a time and place for censorship where the chinese government is way over the line... but when it comes to blogs like this there is a need to protect those who wish to take part in the discussion without having spammers jumping in ruining the site
It is so good to see even though China blocked Twitter, the news still gets out of China regardless of her heavy handed methods of submission and reigning oppression.  It certainly does not change my view that China is any less brutal in her dealings with meeting political challenges or any less dangerous. The spin doctoring that China is becoming more westernized and modern is clearly an oxymoron. recent events show that the use of deadly military force as used in Tianen square is still very much alive and well. A be silent or be killed policy is still dominantly inherent in China.  
Philip
I see the point here is that we are all hypocrites...no exceptions!
Moderation and a complete blocking cannot be compared. A firewall is designed specifically to block Internet packets from reaching a certain destination. Its uaually used to protect networks and their clients from unauthorized access. In this case, its being used to blaitantly and systematically block sites like Facebook, Twitter, and other sites. Once a firewall rule is placed against these URLs, no packets - unless otherwise explicitly stated in the firewall rules - will be able to pass through the firewall to the desination URL or IP address.

Moderation - like what the author can do to my comment if I stray off topic - is the deletion or editing of a comment but, it not necessarily a block against me posting again.

This is censorship at its worst.
The difference here is between governmental (state) censorship and private censorship.  Private web sites and/or private families have always censored.  Government censorship, with the full force of the police state, is the issue here.
Mr Douglas, with all due respect; you have not thought through the issues in China deeply enough.  Your view is far too simplistic. People get killed in China for their views and standing up for basic rights that we in the West take for granted.  There is a great disparity between censorship and oppression.  Nothing can justify what the Chinese Government is guilty of? Can you actually see why the Chinese government might find it necessary to kill both their own people? and peaceful Monks and simple country folk in the mountains of Nepal and Tibet? whose only crime is that they choose to maintain and preserve their culture language and history?  You need to read "Fire Under The Snow" Testimony of a Tibetan Prisoner by Palden Gyatso to gain an indepth understanding of why I challenge your views.
Philip
stop buying chinese products, stop going to walmart.
stop sending them grain.
all you people and the government do is keep funding the chinese government and military.
that was a disgrace when the army bought a million berets from china instead of using our own domestic factories to make them, luckily it came out about that and the army got  them somewhere else, even though they already paid for the ones from china.
that made double damage, spending money for chinese goods and then not using them and reordering the same thing in america.
Bah - The PRC owns the ISP, phone networks and TV. They are upfront regarding monitoring and what will be tolerated.
I have no problems watching US TV shows with Sat TV, can download every movie currently in the theaters for free and access any internet/news sites easily.
There are ways around everything here so it's not a real big deal.
Having the western media (and others) interfere or criticize policies don't help at all.
Things are slowly relaxing, but the more you push - the more the PRC will push back hard.
Left alone, they eventually become a non-issue here.
@Simon - noone knows how many people China executes every years, it is a classified "state secret."  But they do have a whole fleet of execution vans.

@Chazman - Umm, no.  In the USA, the government does not prevent you from going to any internet site you want.
1. Government Media Control = Censorship
2. Private Enterprise Media Control = Property Rights.  

The Communist Governments are Scared of Giving Freedom of information to its citizen.

They know that they have bloody hands and they want to continue to hide it from its citizen to avoid loosing their corrupt brutal powers !

CCP Let our people live !
Let us have free speech !
Let us have freedom of information !

Bring down the GFW OF Communist Gov't !
Philip,

I respectfully disagree with you.  Tibetan culture is not suppressed, and instead it is thriving and enriched.  Same as the religion.

Dalai Lama was the religion leader and governor of Tibet half-century ago.  It was religion-and-government-combined ruling system.  This system has never happed in New Zealand, and we can check the mid age and Dark Age of history to learn what it is.  Dalai Lama’s system was terrible and he enjoyed it very much as the top slave owner and ruler.

When the CCP came, Dalai Lama went to Beijing to meet Mao with his precious gifts to Mao and excellent greetings to Mao (such as that Mao was the greatest leader of China, etc.) because Tibet is part of China and Dalai Lama was appointed by the Chinese central government before CCP came to power.  Mao and almost all top CCP leaders went out to greet Dalai Lama because they wanted to have a warm relationship with him.  Mao wanted Dalai Lama to continue to rule Tibet under one condition that Dalai Lama could not continue to have slaves.  Not only him, all slave owners must free all slaves in Tibet.  Mao gave Dalai Lama 5 years grace period to adjust the change in a hope that the transition was easy and peaceful, which meant Dalai could keep his slaves for 5 more years.

The CCP top leaders accompanied Dalai Lama for a tour of major Chinese cities including Beijing and Shanghai to please him.  Later when Dalai Lama returned back to Tibet, he decided to keep his slavery system and to break off the central government with his force.  His force was defeated by CCP force and he fled to India with his followers, most of who were slave owners who enjoyed the slavery system a lot.  Now, Dalai Lama and his followers are no longer slave owners.  They hate China so much for obvious reasons.  The previous slave owners are now “human right” fighters.  Dalai Lama is now an old, kind, peaceful man just like that old German in USA who was a German prison guard in WWII.  The old German guard was picked up and transferred back to Germany for a final punishment, while Dalai Lama enjoyed a Nobel Prize.  I admire Nobel Prizes and how wonderful three Americans shared Nobel physics prize this year!  But Dalai’s Nobel Prize is a shame.  The politically motivated committee contaminated Nobel Prize with this one.

While the ex-slave-owners are worse off, the ex-slaves in Tibet are much better off now.  They have their own houses, their own land, and enjoy their religions freely.  There are so many new temples built in Tibet.  The living standard from modern point of view is still low, but is many times higher than in old days.  It’s hard to imagine how poorer and terrible Tibetans were under Dalai Lama.  They did not have houses and land at all, and they were items to slave-owners.  They themselves and their skins were traded between slave owners.  When they violated the rules, the punishments included digging out one eye or two eyes, cutting off hand/foot/body-part, throwing in caves full of poisoning insects/animals, pealing off skins (to be killed), etc.  When we own our pets, we do not perform these cruel punishments to our pets, right?  But Dalai’s system did.

To be fair to Dalai Lama.  He did not create his slavery system; he inherited it and wanted to keep it forever.  The younger generation of ex-slave owners are never slave owners and they inherit the hatred from their parents.  Another thing needs to be mentioned is that some lamas in Tibet want to go back to Dalai’s system in which they could be both religion leaders and rulers with power.  But now, lamas are only religion leaders in Tibet.

I am not for communism at all; and I am not for slavery either.  I wish it was Jiang Kai Sheik who had asked Dalai Lama to free his slaves instead of CCP.  But the history did not go that way.  You heard a lot of lies and twists from Dalai’s side.  But it’s not so hard to see the facts.  Once you get on Tibetan soil, you cannot find any components of the culture missing.  The language, the literature, the clothing, the building style, the decorations, the dancing, the songs, you name it.  None of them is missing, and instead they are thriving, and are enriched, and they have spread over to other ethnic areas to become an impotent part of Chinese culture.  Of cause, the slavery is gone.  Unless you agree with Dalai Lama and his followers, you will not think that slavery culture should be kept. Now you are hearing another side.  It’s good unless you choose to ignore facts.
I lived in China for 4-5 years up until last year.  It is a booming place and I can tell you that most Chinese do not care what the government does as long as they do not interfere with their ability to make money.  Most Chinese would not care what the government does to "trouble makers".  They just want things to work and to make money.  They dont like corruption though.  I remember several instances where the government would force a farmer to sell their land to some business, and the government employee would get kickbacks.  That caused lots of problems.
@ An American in China, I agree 100%.  People in the US have no idea what it is like in China.  Only what they read, and the propaganda that they get from special interest groups.
I agree with Douglas. My comments sympathetic to Chinese approach to Tibet riots in 2008 were blocked by both New York Times and another liberal newspaper in Netherland. By the way, by blocking out all the websites in Xinjiang did reduce the ethnic clash and saved some life. This article is full of ideological and condescending rhetoric. It is an example of Democratic chauvinism in a typical west media.
The two measures to support special interests and government is propaganda and censorship. Censorship breeds underground networks of resistance and rebellion whereas propaganda breeds distorted and lopsided views of reality. What generation and country has been devoid of these measures? Managing China's economy and 1.3 billion citizens with their own private journey is no easy task by the Chinese communist authorities. Censorship is a necessary evil to curb social contaminants like pornography and unhealthy human relations and cease political disruption.
An American in China:
I am also an American in China, and I completely disagree with you. Yes, I can access Facebook, Twitter, etc. here from my computer, but it is only because I downloaded a program in America before coming over. I challenge you to delete whatever programs/proxies you use to access the net freely and then try to reinstall them. You can't; the firewall has gotten much tighter in recent months.

Not to mention the fact that the majority of Chinese have no knowledge of how to these unblock sites. So, 1500 people commented on this Twitter blog? That's nothing compared to the amount of people here! I work with very intelligent and modern university students, and when I told them that I could still access these sites from my computer, they were shocked!

Being able to download movies is not quite the same as having free access and information to the ideas of the outside world.
Maybe Chinese Govt. Should go around arresting
Twitter users for sending txt's about police movement.
Similar to what happened at the G20 in the USA recently.
The government could also arrest people who wear anti-governmental clothing, like what happened to the couple wearing the Anti-Bush T-shirts in the USA at a rally.
Government could use tear-gas and arrest and beat  reporters like at the RNC rallies last year.

China has more personal Freedoms than the USA. I think the USA preaches freedom, but in practise, Not even close.
I live, work and teach behind the #gfw and can be followed on Twitter so this is old news but nice to make more people aware of the situation
I love it, I love it, get mad go outside right now, scream and shout, and wave the good old Star and Stripes,  aaa, yeah, those little red, white, and blue things, made in china.
I live in Beijing, and I am an American citizen from Arizona. You who are in the continental US may find it easy to tout viewpoints rationalizing China's actions, comparing them to western hypocrisy and saying that the actions of the Chinese government censoring may have validity. I am here to tell you first-hand, you are mistaken. Since the Uighur riots in July, Ive lost the ability to communicate with many of my close friends due to the blocking of facebook.
I must say that outside political pressure may have little effect, as the PRC does not take advice. The Chinese concept of "face", namely, saving it, prevents the admission of wrongs and slows down every political process. My point is this; Something must be done to ensure a China free of internet control exists.
In my opinion, malicious misinformation is much worse than censorship.  And that is one thing the Western media engages in a lot.  Most comments here are a proof of the effects from the malicious misinformation dispersed in the West.  Comments from people like 'james pinkard' and 'Simon' from Cleveland above show how extremely distorted their view of the world is.
Tylor Porter's style in writing and his choice of wording makes me wonder if he's really a hired gun by Chinese government in China, faking to be an American from Georgetown, KY.

To An American in China.  What's wrong is wrong.  By the way msnbc is usually blocked inside China.  How did you get in to post?  Don't you cherish the few freedom you have over other people in China?
I agree with you Mr.An AmericanInChina, The fire wall is no great burdento us(the Chnese). The internet covers a multitude of bigger problems that are often thrown up by websites who are disastrous, or just plain mediocre with their topics. The Blocked sites really are dull, boring, culturly unengaged, half-hearted,and chaotic., But some people use different eyes to look at things so results could be a great difference of view.A forginer telling a homeland Chinese what they see, then their not of importance when I comes to the Chinese peoples vision.The important thing is that the people of China have a different cultured background,and we must protect that.China is a beautiful country, and she is a rapid developing country. In comparison to some of the developed countries experiencing financial weakness and cultural breakdowns.
Of course China still has some problems too. But to me the Chinese people are sparkling with hope.And the sencorship on the internet are proof of China`s glittering future.
,, It is the Peoples Republic of China`s reponsibility to give hope, not take *hint...
no matter what you say  China is rising up by the leading of Chinese government.  They only do what they what or they decide to do. It doesnt matter what you think of  
our government as long as we love it
Morningstar:
You are mistaken.
I have never had any problems accessing CNN, MSN, MSNBC, WSJ, NYT, Newsweek, MS, Google, US Govt sites, anywhere in China. I never used a proxy server. Occasionally I can't use Wiki or a few other general info sites, but for the most part everything works - although a bit slow.
I've purchased 3 laptops here, Chinese/English O/S, can get updates, no problem.
I don't use Twitter, have Windows Live, Yahoo, Skype, Facebook, Linked In, etc. - all D/L here.
Many Universities have their own firewalls installed in addition to TGF so students just go to net bars and gain access.
If people would have just kept their mouths shut (not ruining it for others) the PRC would not have closed off access to certain sites.
But if you complain/flaunt it in their face of course they feel compelled/obliged to do something about a perceived issue.

 I find that thru out the years,China has made       proggress in many ways. Lets loke at one. The standard of education is better since T.Sq.the death of the students did not go without notice of the government of China.
Education has opened up 10 fold .Not to mention exchange students ,funded by the Chinese.Do we all agree that a global understanding of people and thier rights and persutes are acomplished thru Education .


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