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China's graduates face grim job prospects

Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:24 PM
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Graduation is just a month away and millions of college students in China are expected to hit the streets during what is the country’s tightest job market in decades.

In anticipation of keen competition, most of this year’s 6.1 million graduates have been searching high and low for work the past few months.  But they join an estimated two to three million graduates from previous years who still haven’t found jobs.

VIDEO: China's graduates face grim job prospects

The graduate glut isn’t simply the result of a slowing economy. It’s the product of increased college enrollment and the expanding number of campuses. In 1998, there were 3.4 million college students in China. Last year, there were just over 20 million.

It’s been a tremendous investment in human capital, as one economist put it, but it hasn’t quite turned out the way the government’s hoped.  Aside from unemployment concerns, many students – and prospective employers – complain that the new graduates haven’t got the right training or skills.

And for the millions of parents who save and scrimp to put their child through university, it’s hard for them not to wonder whether it was worth it – would their child have been better off entering the job market straight out of high school?

Click on the video link above to see more of Adrienne Mong's report from Beijing.

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I fail to see the value of this reportage.  Your website yaps a lot about China.  That country is overpopulated anyway, and in the long run is sure as he-- no friend of the United States. They are getting ready to be a world power at our expense (us stinky foreign devils.)  Where are the sympathetic articles telling us about natural and other disasters in the United States of America, and the plight of our legal citizens who recently graduated from our colleges and universities, and also face "grim job prospects?" China and its problems be dam--d.  
Education is a long term investment. China will do well with the investment over time. We seem to have forgotten long term investments.
The story is not the job market this month, the story is the number of educated available in China over a 40 year career life. We will be competing on this playing field - if we show up.
I think a major factor in this problem is 'guanxi'. Chinese students tend to rely on
using relationships to find a job, so many of them
don't care about study while in college.
I regularly speak to parents in China about the differences between the theoretical knowledge obtained in university as compoared to the applied knowledge obtained in colleges of applied arts and technology.  It is sad to say it but such colleges prepare students for the real world of employment based on skills.  Parents in China should thbink long and hard about what they hope their child can achieve.  A college diploma or a college-granted applied bachelor degree, in more than 50% of the cases, would serve the students and the nation better than a university bachelor degree.  Such university gedrees are really just an introduction to a field that will need a masters degree before the student has any real ability or skill.
I work in China teaching business. SO many of the students are unprepared for real life by their schools. Chinese universities offer sub-par learning and only operate to make money for themselves.

The students cheat their way through school while the administration turns a blind eye and only worries about getting the next bunch of students tuition.

prospective employers – complain that the new graduates haven’t got the right training or skills.

Sounds familiar.  Everyone wants the perfect employee.  Maybe if they trained their people and required contracts to stay after receiving such training, both employers and employees would benefit. Nah, that's too logical.
Hear it? That's the sound of the worlds smallest violin. Wait till they start exporting their jobs to Africa and India. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people- I wish em well- Don't call us, we'll call you...
Does this not sound the the US?  We put out way to many "college graduates" with little or no valuable skills.  A college degree in Political Science, or Liberal Arts is worth little more than a high school diploma.  Yet we bombard the airways with views of beautiful campuses, fun at football games and graduation day scenes.  And all you've earned is MORE DEBT.

Why do we care so much about China, when we're going through the same exact thing?
Paradigm shift!!!! Rough economic times call for pioneers who can approach formerly unsolvable problems from a different perspective. An idle workforce of millions, fresh out of school, contains the skill to start tackling issues such as environmental degradation, etc. Don't wait for someone in authority to give you a job, engage your brain and attack important problems now!
Ah, so the Chinese students are getting a taste of what their country has been doing to the U.S. for the past 20 years. We'll I have an idea for the new graduates: Why don't you go work as a greeter in the Chinese Wal-Mart.  I hear they are hiring.
Comrade, welcome to the world of supply and demand.
tell some one who cares all  I can say is Canda better start taking care of its own unemployed before even reporting about a country that has literally taken away many jobs from our citizens its about time canada and us start manufacturing clothes and other goods and put our own people to work.
Why don't we turn these poor Chinese grads loose on the US job market so they can rob us of what few jobs we have left.I'm sure Bill and Hillery and WALMART would approve as they engineered the passage of the GAT and NAFTA treaties that resulted in millions of manufacturing jobs ending up in communist China.
So here I sit in my cozy office with no college degree to speak of...  and oh my look I have a job.  It is not flipping burgers, and it is not as a minimum wage file clerk.. People have you forgotten what happens when you start low on the corporate ladder and actually "work".  That's right you move up a rung.  I have worked with people with and without degrees and the one thing that I have learned so far is: If you have a lot of letters after your name (PhD, M.D.) you have somehow along the way lost most if not ALL of your common sense.  So the moral of the story: Doctors and Lawyers need the lovely letters the rest we can learn on our own with no detriment to society.  I have worked with people in the finance field, medical field, and logistical field.  EVERYTHING can be learned and more often than not an Admin Asst will teach you or point you in the right direction.  Ye Ha  
So you mean that having too many college graduates and not enough jobs to provide jobs to those graduates is a bad idea? You don't say - whoda thunk it? Well, ok, Bush and Obama dun a thunk it. Perhaps I should send them a high school economics book to read so they would have a better education before they make foolish policies. Will we learn from China's mistake - yeah right. Only the top 20% need to go to college. Anyone else want to learn? Great! Here is your free public library card. Now go build that house and turn that wrench!
So, the Chinese can do what we are doing here in the U.S. - take the lower paying job and shut up about it.  It's a job after all.
The unemployed Chinese graduates can always take up the role of fake Rolex/Gucci/Prada/Ray-Ban dealers. Everywhere I went in Shanghai and Beijing, hundreds of "Ni Hao, Ni Hao Mr. USA. Real Rolex! Cheap!"  There were so many of them following me and other non-Asians around. Pretty annoying! But on the other hand its actually pretty good money for those dealers.
I graduated as an accountant a few years ago and I was lucky to find work before I was out. The company I worked for was managed by a woman who at first seemed very knowledgeable and with lots of experience. To get a job there, You had to prove yourself beyond anything I have ever seen. Once I started and got to know what was going on, I found out that my boss did not even finish high school and only got the job because she had a "friend" in the company.
She used to complain about the bunch of unskilled professionals she had to deal with on a daily basis and how unprepared we were. Turns out she was smart enough to hire people who knew what we were doing so she could keep her position.
I stayed in the job for two years and allowed her to take credit for everything I did. She made money, so did I and when the time was right, I left. To this day nobody knows her secret.
Since then, I have gone to other places and the story has been the same. Someone who got the job because they were there long enough managing people who have the skill and know how. They all have one thing in common: They have heard of college. Its not that we do not have the skills. Its called lack of experience. We acquire that when we get a job.
My wife is Chinese, she is told me about how in the Chinese College System the hard part is to get in. Once you are in, you are basically home free for a degree. No study no nothing. You graduate with a degree without really doing any homework, research paper, critical thinking, not even a decent geography or world history. It wasn't until she started college in the USA that she found the real meaning for the the word "study".
Put them to work in factories, since they inundate our country with their products.  How long since you picked up anything in a store that was stamped Made in the USA?  IT ALL SAYS MADE IN CHINA.  I sympathize to some degree for fellow human beings but let's worry about marketing our own products here and getting our college graduates working.
CC's comments are right on.  

There are only two ways to truly secure your professional future - to have 'job' security.  I've written about them in my blog:

http://ruzikejiao.com/index.php/2009/05/20/there-are-only-2-ways-to-secure-your-future/

As an American who has spent the past 6 years living - and teaching - I have some unique perspectives to offer.

As for the 'haters', well, they have them in China too.  They're everywhere, but thankfully, they're NOT the majority, we are.  Like a chronic complainer, they're best left ignored.
This is for all the yahoos who keep writing stuff like - Who ares for China ? Write about America blah blah blah. Well news websites write about many things. They report stuff about what is happening around you. What happens in China affects many of us living here in the US. For example those of us who have invested in stocks in China. I just don't understand why so many Americans would rather be ignorant of the world around them, then learn something.
Long Dong Wong - The chinese students or indian students are not the ones doing anything to you. You - with you inferior math / science skills and your worse attitude which gives more importance to spring breaks than spring tuition have been doing it to yourself.

Welcome to 21st century dude. Hi-tech, Hi-stakes century. Get off your rear, get rid of your sense of entitlements and make yourself worthy enough to compete with rest of the world - or you are toast.
they can get money from thier parents and buy US property.  then they can send thier parents to retire in those houses.  the old people will spend $ and give the economy a boost.  the increase in demand will decrease the excess supply and fix the market.
they can pay cash for the houses, then refinance with the failing banks.  they can start dry cleaning businesses.
Supply of fresh graduates equals less pay for them, Crem de la crem for choice of new hires for hiring companies, low in demand means products at a low price because graduated workers cost less.  The universities should pump out less graduates to stabilize the growth.  I'm not sure if I make sense at all.
quote " I fail to see the value of this reportage.  Your website yaps a lot about China. "

Agreed, leave China alone my dear reporter. Focuse on problem in your own country.

Chinese had enough of you guys also
A weak job market? The use of guanxi being a necessity to get a job? A plethora of un- and under-employed educated people, and educational degrees offering diminishing currency?

Oh wait, those are what we have here in the US...
A weak job market? The use of guanxi being a necessity to get a job? A plethora of un- and under-employed educated people, and educational degrees offering diminishing currency?

Oh wait, those are what we have here in the US...
China is in a mess...while they own America's debt..and finance this countries out of control spending...we are going broke. There college students do not have jobs, neither do ours..except one thing, we have a president and government that is bound to destroy this country..as we sit and write emails about China plight?  When do we stop the demise of this country..and who will do it?  I often wonder, does the Chinese government lie to their people as much as ours?
Just wait...another AMERICAN company will soon supply more jobs ......General Motors...I hear theyre going to export their vehicles into the USA now.....even after the american government used AMERICAN tax money to bail them out of their own greed and stupidity. Maybe the chinese government is smarter!!
An epic economic ascension achieved in less than twenty years.  But out of this, I challenge you to name one item of acclaim in the modern era that is patently Chinese.  One product, one piece of literature, one song, one movie, one invention, one innovation, one standard.  Ideas aren't born from the DNA of assembly line degrees.  They are created spontaneously from a culture that encourages independent thinking and rewards risk taking.    
I see again so many people who are so ill-informed mouthing off again...please people get your facts right before you speak nonsense!
China is the only country with positive economic growth last year.  
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If their graduates have grim job prospects, what about us ???  

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Are there any other states that produce 6.1 million graduates per year? Can the chinese graduates find jobs in other countries where a demand-supply gap exist?

When education is becoming expensive & restricted to previledged few, it is heartening to note that China is producing quite a large number of graduates.India & even United States can not produce such a large number of graduates. They can use this valuable human resource from China.
No worries.  They'll come to US of A to study on a student visa with great grades.  My company hired two of them.  One got fired after 2 months for dozing off on the job and just being a slob.  He had a so-called  engineering degree (from American school, I think, or maybe Chinese and came here to do a exchange program LOL) but had to ask me how to put a paper into a printing machine LOL.  The other one seems to do her job well, but takes short naps during team meetings while doing something with her hand as if to write notes (circles actually) and has no social skills.  Oh, they hired a third one too.  This one is a nerd (I work in software), so she fits in.  But once again... a total robot.  Perfect for corporate servitude of US of A while American worker gets shafted.  Nice!!!
I WISH I DIDNT SEE SO MUCH HOSTILITY TOWARDS THESE YOUNG PEOPLE-THEY ARE FACING THE SAME PROBLEMS AS OUR YOUNG PEOPLE- THE CURRENT  ECONOMIC PROBLEMS WERE NOT CREATED BY THEM- THEY ARE VICTIMS  THE SAME AS WE ARE- MOST OF US ARE HARD WORKERS WHO WERE AND STILL AREVICTIMS OF WHITE COLLAR CRIME[WHICH IS LONG OVER-DUE FOR STIFFER PENALTIES] AND DISGRACEFUL GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS[POOR REGULATION OF SECURITY LAWS AND SEVERE ABUSE OF FREDDIE MAC AND FANNIE MAE-WHICH ARE ACTULLY WAS A GREAT PROGRAM TO GET PEOPLE INTO THEIR OWN HOMES. WHAT I CANT UNDERSTAND IS WHY SO MANY ILLEGALS WERE PUT INTO 5 AN 6 BD HOMES W/2000. PYMENTS WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOLD 3 BD HOMES W/$800. PAYMENTS SO THEY HAD A CHANCE AT SUCCESS!!! LETS TRY TO WORK TOGETHER TO GET OUT OF THIS MESS!!
the whole world got the same problem ... too many people and not enough hard labour ...except he enslaved...but the world population is showing we are in for some really scarey times ... no matter what country you in its like population  decrease time ,,, middle and lower class beware
Wow, such venom. Lighten up people it's not a story about us versus them, it's just a story about college kids looking for a job. And it's funny how people can hear an annecdote from their brother-in-law's neighbor's cousin's ex-coworker and instantly think they're an expert on Chinese culture, education, and industry. What was I talking about? Oh yeah, pity about those kids...
FINE -IF YOU ARE GOING TO CENSOR MY COMMENTS I WILL NOT PARTICIPATE ANYMORE- WHATEVER YOUR CACHING AN MODERATION IS - YOU ARE ALREADY LIKE CHINA!!!
The comments submitted to this article make my skin crawl. It appears enthnocentrism is alive an well - people asking why we are reporting about China when the same thing is happening in the U.S. (or the plight of legal citizens struggling to find work). Try do something a little out of the ordinary and start thinking of the world as something other than what falls between Los Angeles and New York. Your view is so narrow minded it boggles me! Become more rounded, know more about the world AROUND you and how world events impact you before bitching that stories need to focus more on the U.S.
Like the old Soviet ship-building factories of the 1970's and 1980's. This is a Communist regime's mass production of useless equipment. China boasts more internet and cell-phone users and now college graduates. It is sad to say that China will have the smartest collection of unemployed persons in the world.
  The world is full of highly qualified academic graduates but modern economies need far more young people with practical skills and well versed in technology. The world of the twenty first century will require graduates who see opportunities and exploit them to the full.Upskilling should be a major item on every government's agenda.  
Now instead of economic growth in the double digits every year and everything is great, they will have to deal with unemployment, inflation and a constantly changing job market like the rest of the world. Their communist way of government will not help the people. The government doesn't care. The Chinese peolple now know that their government will lie to them because the government just doesn't care. The government knows the biggest problem in china is over-population and the more that people starve to death, die, get killed in floods and eathquakes the better. Now is the time for the people of china to join together and revolt and oust the government.


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