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Captured by pirates, ship captain recounts ordeal

Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:48 AM
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NBC News’ Charlene Gubash interviewed Mahmoud Hammad, an Egyptian captain whose ship was hijacked by Somali pirates. He gives a first-hand account of the 23-day ordeal he and his crew went through.  

CAIRO – Egyptian Captain Mahmoud Hammad quickly dispelled any notion that Somali pirates treat their captives well.       

"Any movement and they would put a gun to our heads or in our sides," he said of the pirates who seized his ship. "Every second, we didn't know what would happen next." 

Hammad was transporting a cargo of cement from Karachi to Djibouti with his 24 shipmates aboard the Mansoura, an Egyptian-owned, Panama-flagged ship, when pirates struck.

"On the third of September at 7:20 a.m., pirates surrounded us in two small boats, seven men to a boat. When we saw them, we rang the alarm bell to warn the crew." 

Image: Mahmoud Hammad
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Captain Mahmoud Hammad, safe and sound back in Cairo after his 23-day pirate ordeal. 

The captain’s first thought: "How can we resist them? They have weapons. I have nothing. The second thought was that I wanted the crew to be safe. They threatened to hit us with rocket-propelled grenades and sink us if we didn’t stop." 

The crew grabbed high-pressure fire hoses and began shooting water to sink the small boats, just as they had been trained to do. But water was no match for bullets. 

'Then the pirates climbed on board'
"When the pirates shot twice in the air, everyone dropped the hoses and ran to their cabins," said Hammad as he began to recount how the ship was seized. "Then the pirates climbed on board and began to round up the crew. Two men were missing and the pirates said they would shoot them if they didn’t come out. We found the men sleeping in their cabins and brought them up. 

"They put three of the crew to work on the engines and told me to take the bridge.  They locked the rest in one cabin. Then they went through the ship’s cabins and stole everything belonging to the crew and broke into the safe and stole the money. 

"When we finally dropped anchor off the northern coast of Somalia, I asked them to split the crew up between two cabins because 21 men locked in one cabin would suffocate.  They agreed and separated them in two cabins." 

Meanwhile a British warship followed them for six hours at a distance of five miles, aware that the Egyptian ship had been captured. The pirates were fearful, but the British ship did not interfere. Hammad’s spirits were raised at the comforting presence of the ship, but soon dashed.

"I had hoped they would at least see the process and stop me," said Hammad. "At least if they stopped me in international waters they could have protected me, but they let me go to the pirate’s home where he has support."

‘When the food finished, we had even bigger problems’
When they arrived in Somalia, 25 more pirates boarded the ship in addition to the original 14, each armed with a Kalashnikov and a handgun, and a total of three RPG launchers.  They were all young, between 20 to 26 years of age, with no apparent affiliations to Somalia’s many militias, said Hammad. "They are fugitives. They are not from any tribe or faction in Somalia.  They are wanted men running from the law. They hurt the entire region." The pirates’ isolation became painfully obvious when they ran short of food and water.

With 35 extra mouths to feed, the ship’s provisions dwindled quickly. "When the water finished we had problems with them. When the food finished, we had even bigger problems." 

The pirates had no one on the mainland to re-supply them.  At first, they demanded the captain buy food and water. But he told them they had stolen the $15,000 intended to buy food.  The pirates told him they had already spent it all on qat, a mild narcotic popular in Somalia. 

"Finally they went to get food," said Hammad. "God knows if they stole it or what. But they would bring live sheep or goats, flour and sugar. We would do the butchering. They didn’t know anything. They only wanted two things: qat and money."

In the pirates lair
The pirates forced the captain to sail to Eyl, a coastal town in Northern Puntland that has become a pirate haven where many captured ships await release. Hammad noted about 11 ships from such countries as Malaysia, Japan and Iran. 

Once at ease in their lair, the pirates began to demand a ransom of $3 million. Hammad became the middleman in high-stakes negotiations that would determine their survival. For 13 tense days, from 10 p.m. until 3 a.m. Hammad, who was in direct contact with a member of Egyptian intelligence and the ship’s owner, bargained them down. 

"We told them the cement is ruined and nobody will want it. They will throw it in the sea. You damaged our ship’s equipment and now the ship won’t be worth its full price. So they came down to $2 million. I said no Egyptian will pay that price for the ship. They will say keep the ship and we will take the crew because they belong to their country.   The pirates finally came down to $600,000 and the ship’s owner agreed to the price."

How do you get ransom money to outlaws?
Hammad thought his problems were over but a new set of obstacles arose: how to get the money into the pirates’ hands. The pirates’ outlaw status and lack of affiliation to Somali or foreign groups prevented them from going inland to pick up the ransom or having it transferred to an account or individual. 

"They don’t want to take their money from a bank, from inside the country, from outside the country. There was nobody to provide an ID number, nobody to go and get the ransom," explained Hammad. "The owner of the boat is telling them the ransom is with so and so in Somalia. They say they can’t go and take it.  They say, ‘If I go to that area, they will have my head.’"

Tempers flared as the pirates waited for the ransom to be delivered. They told the captain they had only taken his boat because they couldn’t find an oil tanker. Anxious to make money, the pirates fought over the fate of their hostages.  

"They used to fight amongst themselves with guns every day on the ship. One of them was wounded when they were fighting." Hammad explained that the Egyptian crew administered first aid to one of their captors who had a bullet wound in his head.

"They fought every day because the time drew on and no ransom. Some of them wanted to sink our ship and kill the crew. But we knew they wanted the ransom." They ominously warned the captain that they had already murdered a Malaysian crew before sinking their ship.    

Finally, a member of Egyptian intelligence flew by private jet to the town of Galcaio near Eyl with the ransom paid by the ship’s owner. Two days later recounts the captain, the crew was freed after a 23-day ordeal.

 ‘The solution is international, not personal’
"I am happy to be alive. They took everything from us, money, mobile phones, clothes, presents we were bringing our children. It doesn’t matter. The problem is the horror we saw. It was not an easy thing. When will I forget it? Of course it took a big psychological toll on all of us, young and old alike. We saw things that made us say maybe we will die the next second. Maybe they will pick me and say "Come here," and they will shoot me."     

Hammad has not worked since, although he has been asked repeatedly to sail the same waters.  "When the route is safe, I will go, but not until then."

He insists that only decisive action by the international community will end piracy. "My advice is not to other captains. What can captains do? My advice is to NATO. They should give a powerful response. The law requires them to protect shipping lanes. Where is their response?  They have to see where these things are coming from and stop. You have to strike them, and not let them enter the water." 

Egypt obliges all sailors to take a self-defense course, but Hammad believes such measures fail to deter piracy. "All of us took the same course. It is not useful. The solution is international, not personal. Nobody can take an individual action against them. There are two things: Either he will kill you or he will die. When they kill them, then the problem will be solved."

Related link: Pirates chase, open fire on U.S. cruise ship

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Its time to deal with these hoodlums. First this, and now an ocean liner filled with passagers. These are crooks and terrorists with nothing to loose. Start arming the captain and his crew and train them to use gernade launchers, semi automatic machine guns and a bazooka effectively. They have nothing to lose, maybe losing their livs will smarten them up.
It seems like the U.S. had a problems with piracy some couple hundred years ago. We hunted them down and did away with them. Seems like we could do that now. We know where their bases are.Let's go wipe em out.
It seems simple to me. Fight fire with greater fire(power).  The captain stated, "They have weapons, I have nothing". Why not?  It's time for international law to change and allow these merchant vessels to protect themselves.  The owners of these multimillion dollar vessels must train, outfit and install small teams of paramilitary men (and women) to stop these pirates in their tracks.  As a former sniper, I can tell you shooting from an elevated platform such as a ship deck greatly increases the shooters odds.  Security contractors are being used in Iraq and Afghanistan, why not the troubled waters of the region?
why are the shipps not carring gernaid launchers stop them thereselves and dont wait for nato which my never come
The self defense courses should include AK47 and RPG instructions. Surely a ship's crew would outnumber and outgun a few pirate boats. The ship could carry more ammunition too. Methinks the pirates might think twice about firing guns and rpg's if the crew were shooting back.
why don't they (some government's military) set some "trap" boats and then when the pirates come they can blow the whole outfit to Kingdom come?  is it really that difficult for a modern military to weed out small boats of 7 or 8 guys each?
Carry security guards armed with high power rifles and rocket-propelled grenades, blast them out of the water as they approach. Simple, teach them a lesson once or twice and others will not attempt to do the same.
These shipping companies need to provide their own primary defense.  Although the International community needs to crack down on these pirates they cannot be everywhere.

Hire some armed commandos to be on each ship. Its a lot easier to keep the pirates off the ship then to remove them later.
It is obvious that we are dealing with common thugs...why are we not going after them? We know where and who they are...it amazes me to see this over and over again. It is clearly the definition of insanity to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. The Pirates know that nothing will happen to them. Duh!!!
ATTENTION:  This is how you solve the problem.

Get a few ships like this one and do the trojan horse thing.  You know either booby trap it to explode when all these pirates come aboard.  Think unmanned drone.  Or jsut have some special forces guys greet them when they come aboard.
Or maybe Jonny Depp can lend a hand with scally wag group of pirates.
Do a few trojan horses and the pirates will give pause.
It is obvious that we are dealing with common thugs...why are we not going after them? We know where and who they are...it amazes me to see this over and over again. It is clearly the definition of insanity to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. The Pirates know that nothing will happen to them. Duh!!!
Great story / good ending. Almost thought Errol Flynnn was going to come of the closet - I believe that is what is needed since we all know the UN non Nato is going to do anything. This captain was correct that all the gentleman who sail the seas should stand together and resolve this issue and they all know the correct thing to do .
They are going to continue to take money instead of earn it no matter how hard you try to negotiate. Until we are ready to use force against the threat it will continue. If it were in my hands, I'd decide to bomb their little sanctuaries into the stone age.
How can the world be so stupid?  This is an international problem requiring an international response.  Or is every country just waiting for a cruise ship to be taken and hoping it won't be theirs?  Whatever country has a cruise ship taken will not only be forced to solve the problem, they will be forced to solve it with both hands tied behind their back by hundreds or thousands of hostages.  Does the international community have a collective IQ of 25?
Piracy in a country like somalia with no jobs or hope is the best way to feed your family. What are you guys going to do? Stop every single somalian venturing out into the sea with 1.1 million squares miles of target areas?

Piracy is the result of somalia's lawless anarchy. Piracy will continue to exist as long as somalia has no prospects for it's people.
a squad or two of marines on each ship armed with RPGs, mounted 50 cal. machine guns, LAWs and automatic rifles. start training crews to at least be able to fire rifles accurately. when the pirates attempt a hijacking, no second chance. send them all to the bottom.  blow up their boats and the pirates.
Aren't we fighting a war on terror?  These thugs qualify.... blow a few of their speedboats out of the water and things will quiet down.
Can't we all just get along. We need to sit down with these brave men of the sea, find common ground with them, come to an understanding of respect and a resolution of healing.
lets give peace a chance.  
Nuke EM!  Just Kidding, Put a few  combat ready and armed Marines on board random ships, and lets see how the pirates fare? When the Marines open fire get an AWACS in the area to track the 'pirates' back and give them a welcome greeting onshore...
I can understand why merchant ships are not allowed to be outfitted with weapons.. There is a lot of training that goes into using military grade weapons and I'm sure having weapons on merchant ships could host a wide array of new issues... like what would happen if the pirates still got ahold of the ship despite having defenses, and then they had a new arsenal of automatic weapons to go use on another mechant ship. The best course of action is to either bait the pirates and weed them out that way, or to simply retrofit ships with simple defenses that would keep a pirate from boarding, like say... electrifyable ship rails or something like that. I know it sounds a bit 007 but we've done more outlandish things before to protect money. Another idea would be a rapid response, no BS team trained specifically in handling these types of piracy issues.
This won't continue when Obama gets in Office.  He'll talk to them.
The last time we went after Somalian outlaws (at the request of Somalia itself), we ended up with Black Hawk Down, and everybody being pissed at us. If we're reluctant to take decisive action maybe it's because remember what happened the last time we tried to help.
I was a Navy 20MM gunner aboard Merchant Ships during WWII.  why not arm these ships with the same and blast these pirates out of the water at a distance.  That would stop the highjacking for sure.

Since this was a Panama-flagged ship, I would think it is a Panamanian issue. Perhaps Panama, Liberia, and the other flags of convience could get together and protect their merchant marine
Since when should pirates have rights??  NATO...wake up.!  If this happened a few hundred years ago, they would have been blown to smithereens without any 'rights groups' calling for a halt.  This IS an international problem and affects us all.  
I must be missing something but from the moment I heard of these huge ships, with crews at least doubling the pirates, being literally stopped in their tracks by small powerboats - I thought: "They deserve what they're getting".  

There are armed guards practically everywhere dozing to sleep ashore and yet a company can't afford to arm either their crew or guards to protect a ship!!??!!

Please tell me there's some sort of international law forbidding the arming of the ships against piracy so I can understand the stupidity of this.
Just make a few oil tankers into Q-ships, Pirates appear, and the sides open up with on-board artillery.
They used them in WW2 against Submarines, why not here.  And if you know where they hide out, eliminate them -
Remind me now...we are in the era of high powered equipment, right?  Night vision, satellites, GPS, and yet we still can't get rid of a few maggots.  Incredible.  
A little side to Richard Graves' comments.  You want to all get along eh?  You want to 'talk it out'.  I'll tell you what, you be the first to 'talk' to the pirates, and let us know how it goes, OK?  I bet your family doesn't have the ransom cash they are looking for.
If nobody is doing anything about this, it must be for a reason; we just don't know what it is yet.  Follow the money.
Is it possible that these pirates work for a bigger organization that may be looking to hit a large target once they have a big enough fleet? The article said they were looking for a tanker - wouldn't that make a nice weapon if it came into a large port city while burning... fodder for a decent tv show anyway...
The song goes, ..."to the shores of Tripoli!" for good reason. NATO patrol boats could pull convoy duty much like in WWII. Also, the Germans had "raider" ships that looked like merchant ships, only loaded with cannons and machine guns. A few engagements with those ships would make the pirates think twice. U.S. convoy ships in WWII had Coast Guard gun crews and light artillary aboard too. It is time to fight these jackels on their own terms, otherwise they will never stop, given the huge amount of money to be had.
Yousef, as one of many black men, who works and has had moderate success in life I detest if not despise those who cry and use poverty as an excuse for bad behavior.  They're young, ignorant, and cowardly and should be shot by an armed crew such as that WWII Merchant Mariner gunner.  They'd back off and think more than twice before attacking a ship then.

:) it's hillarious, really. pirates getting away with freakin tankers?!?  i don't know if i'm reading a comic book or a post-apocalyptic fiction story... :) but seriously, i'm amazed with a fact... that somebody who should take care of this obviously does not care ...at all; ...it's weird how easy it is to forget that: "All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing!" ...so go on ...do nothing :).
We shouldn't arm the merchant marines...the potential for them to use those weapons against legitimate authority is FAR too great.  Innocents will die if you arm these sailors. These pirates are desperate: they are drug addicts and starving people with no place to go. They are far more dangerous than a military operation - there is NO restraint, when one is backed against the wall, and there is little space between them and the wall now.  Going to them and "wiping them out" sounds easy, but think of the potential impact: There are 250 crewmen in captivity now.  Those people are at risk.  They may be located in a sovereign nation's waters/land.  How would the US respond if some other country showed up at our shores and wiped out an area because they believed that the people in that area were bad? I think we have more to consider than just the thugs and the sailors who would arm themselves.  These issues take time to resolve...it is a thin line we stand on when we are in this position.
This piracy affects everyone regardless of nationality.  I say we need to start using bait ships like cities use bait cars for theives.  Have the cargo be heavily armed military and then Surprise!  Shoot them dead!
We've got defense satelites. This is another terrorist threat. They ain't hitting our towers their hitting our ships. What happend to the "war on terror". Watch these areas via satelite. Everytime one of these know priate ports has a ship leave it play coast guard and search it!
There seem to be a few simple things that could be done before help arrives. First develop an computerized  system that could be put into effect that would send the craft running into circles.  Second have an electrical system simular to barbed wire strung completely around the outside of the  ship with high voltage to be turned on at night or when being boarded. And third if a well trained crew with weapons of equal force fail, then have after radioing for help, and with life jackets on, turn on a extremely well hidden super loud sound system before jumping ship and waiting to be picked up.  Twenty minutes of Rap music should do the job.....
If Nato really wanted to stop the piracy they would deploy an aircraft carrier to the area. Through radio communications, these planes could be in the air within a minute and blast these guys out of the water.
Time to bring out the old British Q-ships from WW I.
These folks are just hungry.  It is all Bush's fault.  We should be nice to them so they will stop what they are doing..  (load of crap...) They only want drugs, give them drugs so that they will OD.
Did anyone listen to the comments left by Yousef?  The people of Somalia are starving on several levels.  Desperate people do desperate things.  "Blow them out of the water" may be a good defensive strategy....but it is not an answer.  Should the U.S. economy take a few more hits you might see Americans trying to "stop tankers with a dingy and a popgun".
I don't see this going on much longer since the leader over there is asking for help. You know th good ole US. I look for it to stop pretty soon one way or the other. I agree, though, it should have already been stopped long ago.
There seem to be a few simple things that could be done before help arrives. First develop an computerized  system that could be put into effect that would send the craft running into circles.  Second have an electrical system simular to barbed wire strung completely around the outside of the  ship with high voltage to be turned on at night or when being boarded. And third if a well trained crew with weapons of equal force fail, then have after radioing for help, and with life jackets on, turn on a extremely well hidden super loud sound system before jumping ship and waiting to be picked up.  Twenty minutes of Rap music should do the job.....
Look, this is simple, just put an aircraft carrier off the coast of Somalia. Launch all planes, fly up & down the coast & strafe anything & everything that floats, no boats, no pirates simple as that. The other option is to sink anything large enough to be a mother ship, you can't ride in small speedboats to 400 nautical miles out, you need a mother ship, sink THOSE! & no more pirates.
Private security firms can deal with this piracy attacks. But within the the Maritime Laws. And again, what is the protocol to the judical prosecution. For private sec. firms in my opinion, they must operate under preventive security protocols. The best operation is when there is not one shot fired. Visualisation of the means towards the attackers must be one of the priority. Private sec. firms cannot use an offensive protocol. This is only for Law Enforcement Agencys, such as Coast Guard and designated military forces. Some joint operation must be possible, in terms of hand over the pirates.
fit explosive vests on dolphins,sharks and alligators persuade them to swim towards these somali ships and have them blow up. or use booby trapped boats with dollar signs painted on the outside so that the pirates think these boats have money inside, blow them up. we have to start using wiley coyote tactics in this war on terror.
And what will come of all these problems in the scheme of our present presidential plight?  Obama says disarm the USA and open the borders?  He wants gun control so we will be left without protection just like the captains of these ships.  Will we all sit back and do nothing?  Or will we fight for freedom and uphold God and our country.

Don't forget these pirates are victims themselves.  They live in conditions that would be unbearable to most Westerners.  All they want to do is survive.  Instead of hunting them down, we should embrace them with love and have sympathy for their plight.  Only education and raising the standard of living in these impoverisheed countries can turn desperate men into contributing citizens.
I say we hire Pirates of our own, they can go and track down and steal their booty.  And arm the ships to blow the threat upon its aproach of the targeted ship.  It should not cost US taxpayers anything, best part!  
The Obama administration should handle this issue with Somalia.  A new system is required to stabilize that country and it's possible if there is resolve.


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