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Tibetans plot future, Dalai Lama reincarnation

Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:49 AM
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BEIJING – As more than 500 Tibetan exile leaders gather in Dharmsala, India, this week to discuss their struggle against Chinese rule, their movement appears to be at a crossroads.

They are expected to debate whether or not they should abandon the Dalai Lama’s longtime attempt to compromise with Beijing, by pursuing a path known as the "middle way," or if they should go for a last ditch attempt at independence.

Image: Tibetan Buddhist monks carry a portrait of the Dalai Lama
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Tibetan Buddhist monks carry a portrait of the Dalai Lama in Dharmsala, India, on Monday. 

But overshadowing those issues, and heightening the urgency of the gathering, is the age and health of the Dalai Lama himself – he is now 73-years-old and has had two hospital treatments since August.

He called the meeting in the Indian hill town that is the base of Tibet’s self-proclaimed government in exile, but was not expected to attend the meeting because he said he did not want to tilt the debate on future strategy.

But as the Tibetan spiritual leader, his continuing influence on the movement is undeniable.

And because of his overwhelming influence, China has already taken preemptive moves to control his replacement and Tibet’s future leadership – by controlling his reincarnation.

Two Dalai Lamas?
Last year the Chinese passed a law that gives Beijing the power to approve the reincarnation of living Buddhas or lamas, of whom the Dalai Lama is the highest in the Tibetan hierarchy.

In turn, the Dalai Lama has raised the possibility to forgo his rebirth, or to be reborn while still alive so that he, not China, can choose his successor.

Reincarnation, the migration of the soul from one body to another in a continuous process of rebirth so that lamas or senior monks can carry on their religious work, is a basic tenet of Tibetan Buddhism.

The current 14th Dalai Lama who is considered a reincarnation of the 13th Dalai Lama, was discovered, through various forms of rituals and divination, while still a young boy, more than two years after the death of the previous Dalai Lama.

But while the issues of afterlife and rebirth seem like ones of strictly religious belief, for China's rulers, they also involve the deadly business of political control over Tibet. The current Dalai Lama, a Nobel Peace Prize-winner, has become an international icon and the peaceful face of Tibet’s struggle for autonomy. 

There is a fear among some observers that the Dalai Lama’s death could trigger even more violent uprisings than the recent riots that challenged Chinese communist rule last March.

Dalai Lama
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Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama waves as he leaves the Ganga Ram hospital in New Delhi, India on Oct. 16.

"While the Dalai Lama is still alive, no matter how many hardships are encountered, Tibetans have hope, but once the Dalai dies, this hope will be replaced by despair, anger will overcome fear, and grief will give way to frenzy," Wang Lixiong, a mainland China intellectual who follows Tibetan issues recently wrote.

Wang, who advocates negotiations with the Dalai Lama as the only solution to the Tibetan conflict, warned that the possibility of two Dalai Lamas, one chosen by Beijing, and one chosen by the Tibetans in exile, could be a major problem that would lead to more violent protests.

In 1995, China showed how it would deal with the reincarnation issue if they didn’t agree with a Tibetan selection. Beijing rejected the Dalai Lama's choice of a 6-year-old boy as the successor of the 10th Panchen Lama, Tibet's second holiest figure who had died in 1989. China proceeded to choose its own 11th Panchen, and the boy the Dalai Lama selected was never heard from again.

‘Standardizing’ reincarnation
China implemented the new reincarnation law in September 2007 in what they claimed was an effort to "standardize" the registration and approval procedures for the reincarnation of living Buddhas; the new law effectively excluded the current exiled Dalai Lama from the selection process and management of Tibet's clergy.

The law explicitly requires Chinese government approval in the search and confirmation of reincarnated lamas.

While the Dalai Lama is not specifically mentioned in the law, the reference to him was clear in the stipulation that "those reincarnations whose impact on the Buddhist world are very large… extremely large," have to be approved by the Chinese leaders in Beijing. Otherwise, the reincarnation will be considered "illegal and invalid."

In response, at the end of 2007, the Dalai Lama proposed to hold a referendum among his millions of followers on whether he should be reincarnated at all, and, if the vote was in favor, to determine his reincarnation while he was still alive. He cited the example of one of his teachers as a precedent for a lama being reincarnated while still alive. But he also indicated that he would not be reborn in China or any other country which is "not free."

China's Foreign Ministry denounced the Dalai Lama’s statement as a "blatant violation of religious practice and historical procedure." (There was no acknowledgement of the irony that China’s atheist rulers would be speaking out as the guardians of Tibet’s 600-year-old religious traditions.) 

For Tsewang Norbu, a prominent Tibetan activist based in Germany, China's reincarnation law is a "big joke." The aim of reincarnation is "to continue the unfinished work of the predecessor and not to destroy it," he said, explaining why the Dalai Lama can only be reborn outside of Chinese control as long as the Tibet question is not resolved.

Professor Robert Barnett, director of Modern Tibetan Studies at Columbia University, agreed that the issue of succession is critical to the future of the Tibetan movement.

"The Dalai Lama's suggestions are in principle quite serious and everyone knows they need to solve the succession problem, if they can only agree on a method," said Barnett. "But they need a charismatic leader like him to forge a consensus and it can't be done without one, so it's not at all easy and time is short."

A new path?
Nevertheless, the exiled leaders meeting is expected to address some of the overall frustrations of the Tibetan movement. Twenty years after he abandoned the cause of independence in favor of Tibetan autonomy, the so-called "middle way," the Dalai Lama remains empty-handed – despite eight rounds of talks with Beijing since 2002.

"My trust in the Chinese government has become thinner and thinner," the Dalai Lama lamented early this month, "I have to accept failure."

Frustrations over the lack of progress have led to more radical calls for outright Tibetan independence from China and abandoning the strategy of non-violence in favor of angrier protests.

China has mostly dismissed the Tibetan talks about a potential change of strategy as meaningless. Zhu Weiqun, a Chinese vice-minister, said at a news conference in Beijing last week that the Chinese will never accept Tibet’s calls for independence.

China insists Tibet has been part of its territory for 700 years, although many Tibetans insist that they were effectively independent for most of that time. Chinese forces invaded shortly after the 1949 communist revolution and the current Dalai Lama fled to India in 1959 amid an unsuccessful uprising.

Whether the Tibetans choose to continue the moderate path of the middle way or take a more confrontational approach is yet to be seen.

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What....the ....HELL? China's leaders are idiots. Plain idiots. I know they are communists who gave them the right now to determine and put a law on a religion that is NOT THEIR OWN? They are atheists, they have no belief in God or anything spiritual or outworldly. They crush that because it's against their control (as shown with the government appointed clergy and goven't own churches). Wow China, congrates on making yourself look controlling like an abusive husband. Get out of here with your melting pot of a society.
I feel ashamed of the "rulers of the free world" who have embraced China and ignored the plight of the freedom and autonomy of Tibet.  Since one of our Presidents made China "Most favored nation" all of this has been inevitable. We have preferred a country run by communists who have no understanding of religion over a country who had a full understanding of religion in their lives and who harmed no one.  This I hope will be seen in history as an horendous error, and we should be ashamed to have stood by and done nothing.  
The international community should not meekly accept the chinese communist party's assertion that through it's political control of Tibet it has the right to usurp control of one of the world's major religions! The CCP views adherents of any faith as dangerous subversives and treats them accordingly. Just look at the treatment of Falun Gong practitioners in China,Detention without trial,torture,imprisonment and even death! All for believing and promulgating the dangerous,destabilizing notion that TRUTH, KINDNESS,and TOLERANCE are virtues and not acts of terrorism! China is fast becoming the most powerful nation in the world and it does not take too much imagination to realize what the world of tomorrow will be like if the Chinese government is left unchallenged on it's path to ascendancy.
A crucial dilemma facing us!  Tibet should be free!  I do not understand China.  The tenor of "change" should spread out around the world.  Something needs to change in China.  Last I checked China is not the center of the world.  There is no center of the world now.  The Chinese government will need more than prayers to encourage it to wake up and smell the coffee of the modern time.  There is no basis for the Chinese Government to have any say in what the Dali Lama and his world organization does.  Chinese government has denounced all religious organizations!  Chinese government has also rejected and destroyed Chinese culture, tradition, and history.  They ought to leave Tibet and the Dali Lama alone allowing Tibet to be returned to those that love it best!
Wow, Chiness politics are weird. Oh well. I wonder who this dude is going to pick.
I was from Beijing, and I plan to set up an exile-government and fight for Beijing independence. If I succeed, the people from Shanhai may think they can succeed as well, then establish another exile government and fight for Shanghai independence. and so on so forth.



An atheist ruler choosing the next religious reincarnation of something is just so sick and wrong.  Where's the actual RELIGION in that?
What is amazing to me is that nobody is stating the obvious here. It is all fantasy. There is no reincarnation and the sooner everyone figures this out, the better we will all be.
It's never been a fight about Tibet's independence, it's about those so-called spiritual leaders' privileges in Tibet. They want those privileges back. They want to go back to the days when they did nothing but had everything. They don't really care about the majority of the tibetians interests. Just do an easy comparison between what Tibetian's life looked like under the old government and their life under the new, you will know who is lying.. I am a religious person, but I am not a fan of Dalai.. Talking about religion, tibetians or buddhisms overall, are not drawing any special attentions in China. There are several big temples in Beijing that attracts many worshippers everyday, not a sign of their activities being suppressed under the government. Those who are giving comments on this, better to be there yourself before making a decision on what to say.
The Tibetan culture and religion is beautiful, and it is a shame that its on the verge of distinction.  Their ceremonious choosing of religious successors through reincarnation is fascinating, and should be preserved.
Unfortunately, the USA is so far in bed with China, that we turn a blind eye.  Now that China holds our purse strings, we say nothing to their inhumane persecution of the Tibetans.
yeah, why aren't we spreading freedom in this part of the world George W? Oh yeah, there is no oil there and China ownes about a trillion of our debt. Bummer.

(I'm glad your mismanagement of our once-credible nation is soon history... which has some new dark pages added to it)
Free Tibet!!!!!!

People are afraid of what they do not understand.

Free Tibet!!!!!!
Most religions are control-mechanisms. The sooner we start seeing religion for what it should be (a personal and spiritual experience) the better off the human race will be. Congragating is the worst idea in history and I'm frankly surprised prophets like Jesus didn't figure that out. Looks like he wasn't quite perfect either, was he?
Others can not control the reincarnation of a soul particularly from a powerful and enlightened master as the Dalai Lama.  The chinese think they can control everything, but there are some things they can not!  I wish the Tibetens would flee, because I hate to see people suffer and be tortured. Let the Dalai Lama rebirth in a free country so that The Tibeten ways can be preserved.  Either way the chinese can not control the birth or death of an enlightened master.  
First, I must say that my first impression of the Dalai Lama's attempts to select his successor sounded like the politicization of religion.  As necessary as it may be for him to be involved in the continuation of the non-violent path to independence, I (being less than well versed in th Buddhist religion have difficulty understanding how an active soul can determine the form it will take in the next life before the end of its current life.  That being said, China's human rights record and subsequent status in the world speaks loudly that "money talks". I would like to give world governments credit for the thought that people exposed to freedom will gradually demand it for themselves as the society prepares for it.  Patience can bring about change as easily as violent intervention.  China seems to be changing slowly, but is their position in the world causing more change or an increased stubbornness in Tibet and Taiwan.  I am beginning to ramble, as I do when I delve ever deeper into a complex argument.  So, I guess the question is not about whether it is right for China to intervene in this way, but what is the best way to deal with it?  I certainly don't know.
The United States and the rest of the free world had an opportunity to prevent this when the Dalai Lama asked for help shortly after his exile.  As a predominently christian society, the US determined it was not a worthwhile cause.  Shame on us for not supporting the Dalai Lama back then.  In the end, the Dalai Lama will win and overcome this.  History has proven that "power" will prevail over "force".  Just look what Ghandi and Bishop Tutu accomplished despite insurmountable odds.  
Right on Dave from Newark. Its all a game of power. Wake up China! There is no reincarnation. Wake up Tibet! The use of a so called religous right to keep you oppressed is not religion at all. The Chinese kept Tibet at bay on the Olympics and so it goes on. Choosing a succesor is something a political power would do. Choosing someone as a succesor that is close to a diety God does
No matter which side of the debate you are on, you must admit that China is trying to rule over a people's thought process and religion. Financial and political rule is one thing, but the torture of a culture, religion, education and eventual extermination of a people is called genocide. Tibet has nothing that the United States wants (oil) so we'll do nothing, but rest assured that history will not look kindly on the U.S., China or any of the world's industrialized nations for this slaughter. The  Dalai Lama has taught the world many lessons... obviously we still have much to learn.
It all comes down to money.Tibet is wealthy in natural resources and labor. Get the idea.
Let's be clear, people.  The choice being offered by the Dalai Lama is not one between a free and democratic Tibet vs an autocratically controlled Tibet.  It is the choice between an autocratic theocracy and an autocratic one party system.  Are we in the West so paranoid of China that we would buy into some archaic, unreasonable and just plain crazy theocratic system of succession because "at least they're not the communist party"?  WAKE UP.  The only free Tibet is a democratic Tibet.
"It's never been a fight about Tibet's independence, it's about those so-called spiritual leaders' privileges in Tibet. They want those privileges back. They want to go back to the days when they did nothing but had everything. They don't really care about the majority of the tibetians interests."
---Looks like someone has been drinking the Chinese Kool Aid...

"Just do an easy comparison between what Tibetian's life looked like under the old government and their life under the new, you will know who is lying.."
--Even more chinese propaganda non-sense...People when given a choice will always choose self-rule, freedom, autonomy, than centralized control over your independance.
What do you mean when you say there is no religious freedom in Tibet?  People live in Tibet now have much better life than those when Dalai Lama left 45 years ago.
This is all so very sad.  History will judge China as aggressors and fools, but the tenents of peace and Buddhism will not disappear.
Religions should be free of polictics. There are more than 300 milion Budhism all over. I have never seen Budhists fighting, they are very peaceful people. let them survive peacefully. China is a communist country and has no right to choose religious leader (next dalai lama). Tibet should be free country.
Hey Jessica, this is the USA, not China.  We all have the right to an opinion.  Mine is, China is a Godless state that serves only itself.  China does not have the right to even be in Tibet, let alone decide who the next spiritual leader of Tibet will be.  
David from Newark - Feel free to disbelieve in reincarnation.  That won't make it less real or relevant to those millions of perfectly intelligent Buddhists and Hindus who believe in it as thoroughly as you reject it.  And remember that just as little real evidence that your religion is based on fact, as there is for other religions.
"It's never been a fight about Tibet's independence, it's about those so-called spiritual leaders' privileges in Tibet. They want those privileges back. They want to go back to the days when they did nothing but had everything. They don't really care about the majority of the tibetians interests. Just do an easy comparison between what Tibetian's life looked like under the old government and their life under the new, you will know who is lying.. I am a religious person, but I am not a fan of Dalai.. Talking about religion, tibetians or buddhisms overall, are not drawing any special attentions in China. There are several big temples in Beijing that attracts many worshippers everyday, not a sign of their activities being suppressed under the government. Those who are giving comments on this, better to be there yourself before making a decision on what to say." XXX WHOEVER WROTE THE ABOVE POST KNOS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT BUDDHISM, TIBET OR THE CHINESE. READ BEFORE YOU WRITE. XXX
Tibet...or not Tibet...that is the question.
The lama has been and continue to use religion as a pretext to play ethnic separatist politics and use ignorant and anti-chinese foreginer lackeys and ordinary tibetans as his political pawns. This so called meeting is yet another one of his clever public relation stunts. It is too bad that it is used to farther his political agenda which is contrary to the fundamental interests of the Chinese people, whatever ethnicities they may be, Tibetans or the Hans. His political agenda, I believe, must be fought against at all cost b/c I guarantee you the day he gets his way is the day when an American or Nato military base setting up shop on the Himalayas. And there are already over 100 U.S military bases all over the place. Now, what I don't understand is why the Chinese govn't is still so nice to him and bend over backward to neogitate with him? Americans don't even neogitate w/ the Iranians, why should the Chinese gov't neogitate w/ a political scoundrel like him, especially when he repeated prove he's untrustworthy and nothing but a great media manipulator? I say he needs to be criminally charged for inciting and formenting ethnic division and social chaos. As the god-king, he can easily stop and prevent ethnic violence, but he chooses to say one thing and act another way. Regardless of what his western lackeys say in the western media, including in this article, Chinese sovereignty is non-negotiable, and must be protected at all cost even it is with the blood of 1.3 billions people.  
Of course "Talking about religion, tibetians or buddhisms overall, are not drawing any special attentions in China."  Why would it?  The government controls and suppresses such speech.  Additionally, Tibet isn't favored inside the country except as a means to greater control.  
Jessica - not sure what you are referring to.  To say that the monks don't care about the Tibetian peoples interests has no historical truth what so ever.  If that were true, their wouldn't be a Tibetian govt in exile, they would all move to Paris and live out their days in luxury.  If you had been to Dharasala, you would know that it is far from luxurious.

Also - making a comparison between the life of an average Tibetian pre-1949 and post-1959 - yes the Chinese brought industrialization, but at what cost.  Most of their culture is gone and all around the temples there are Chinese owned shops and restaurants - what if the US was in the same position, I don't think you would enjoy the same things you do now...that is if you are not posting this from China.
Can someone explain to me how your soul can be reincarnated while you're still alive? I mean, if that is possible, whose soul would be in the original body?
sorry to have to remind all of you that "reincarnation", if it's the truth of all human being's end, will have to happen only if after someone's dead.  As ridiculous as Tibetans think that a government could choose a religious leader for them, it's just as ridiculous, if not more, for Dalai Lama and everyone else to determine whether he should be reincarnated while Dalai Lama's still alive. WTH? You must be DEAD first then reincarnate. This whole thing is just bogus. I'm very offended that Dalai Lama thinks he could just reincarnate while being alive... "just because..." . I'm not his fan, neither am I a Chinese government's fan, I'm speaking from the perspective of a buddhist.
Jessica, I think that you need to study the the history and culture of the tibetan people before you speak.  I many many tibetans that I call dear friends that try very very hard to survive under the repressive regime of the chinese.  The chinese are systematically trying to de-tibetan the culture, and make them more chinese.  They are moving great numbers of chinese nationals into tibet to change things towards Bejings wishes.  My friends tell me quite often of how they wish they could go back to the way their culture was before the chinese invaders
arrived.
Jessica, so did you ask the Tibetans what they want?  We've all heard the line of thinking you state before.  I know several Tibetan lamas and none of them exhibit any behavior or make any statements that support the claim they are in it for the "privileges".  Most of us also realize that torture and execution of buddhist monks and nuns along with the massacre of at a minimum thousands if not millions of Tibetans does not represent any form of good intent by the Chinese.
wow david from Newark, how do you know there is no reincarnation? So what exactly doeshappen when you die? Have you actually dies before & know for a fact? I think what is true for you is true for you & maybe not others. And vice-versa. I think if anyone of us knew the truth about the after life we would not be living on earth to begin with. Until then, it is all just a belief.
First, the growing power, arsenal, and territorial expansionist desires (Taiwan, Tibet) of the atheist Chinese government is frightening.

Second, a Buddhist should appreciate the irony here..."attachments cause suffering"...attachment to the past, property, country, religion, etc.,etc...

"everything changes"...The Tibetans may never have their home again as they knew it (The Chinese will never let that happen!) However, by accepting "what is" they can choose to live in the present and enjoy the hospitality of their "host" countries...creating new lives, experiencing new cultures, and still enjoying their religion and traditions.

Third,  the World should continue to put pressure on the Chinese government for any abuses they incur on the Tibetans still residing in Tibet.

Fourth, let's all pray that the Dalai Lama stays  healthy and can encourage his flock to "embrace change" and maintain one of the central tenets of Buddhism..."non-violence".

Fifth, if the Tibetans follow the scriptures taught by the Buddha...there will be no need to "fight" over the next Dalai Lama.
Does any one here know that the current DL WAS approved by then Chinese government when he was reincarnated? Go check the history.
"China proceeded to choose its own 11th Panchen, and the boy the Dalai Lama selected was never heard from again." - was there any international investigation, public outcry, or excuse offered by the Chinese govt. regarding the disappearance of the boy chosen by the Dalai Lama?
Oh, Jessica, you so clearly bear the marks of years and years of Chinese Nationilst Propaganda. Go do some actual *historical* research; y'know, the kind that comes in textbooks NOT written by the CCP.

Better get out in the world of free intellect before making a decision on what to say.
Jessica I agree that the life of the tibetian was poor in the early 1950's.  Most lives were poor in the east in the 1950's.  To be honest though, your a fool if you think that China wants anything other than control.  I've been all over China.  I've seen how "communist" the country is.  Mostly, it's just like the U.S.  Everything is about buy, buy, buy, sell, sell, sell.  The point is, if a people want indepentence, give it to them.  
So I jump ship in Hong Kong and make my way over to Tibet, and I get on as a looper at a course over in the Himalayas. A looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock. So, I tell them I'm a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald... striking. So, I'm on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one - big hitter, the Lama - long, into a ten-thousand foot crevasse, right at the base of this glacier. Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-galunga. So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
People should be asking themselves WHY China wants the Tibetan plateau and WHY the Chinese are so frightened of HHDL. Could it be the Tibetan Plateau holds the world's richest URANIUM deposits in the world. Also, the Tibetan Plateau, the highest plane on the plant, effects much of the planet's weather systems. And it is the head of the 5 rivers systems in Asia... and the Chinese are dumping Nuclear waste up there... Global warming to say the least. Please SAY something to your elected officials!!! www.savetibet.org
To David of Newark, NJ: To say that there is, "no reincarnation and the sooner everyone figures this out, the better we will all be" is the equivalent of saying, "there is no god and the sooner everyone figures this out, the better we will all be." Slamming another's religion is not a way to get a point across. If you do manage to take religion out of the picture, just 'how much' better will we all be?

To Jessica: Regardless of what the old Tibetan life was like under the old rule and who is lying, the current situation is something that you can't ignore. China is brilliant in its aim to attempt to erradicate those who oppose. You say that we should look at the current situation in Tibet. Alright, what would you like us to look at? The current living situation of the average Tibetan? You seem to say that the people of Tibet seem to lead a better life nowadays in comparrission to the old days. I suggest you to take a closer look at WHO really is living well in Tibet. Its not the native Tibetans, those who have lived in Tibet for generations, but the Han-Chinese who were spurred to move to Tibet by the Chinese government in an effort to sinicize Tibet. The Han-Chinese who have moved there and settled down and whose desendants consider themselves 'native Tibetans'... are those the Tibetans you are referring to in your statement?

Culture is a beautiful thing, but with the Cultural Revolution, much of what it means to be a decent Chinese was also wiped out. To be re-educated into a being that is so desensitive and whose only yearn is to consume, profit, catch-up and make it big. Don't believe me. Take a piece of paper and list out in decending order of importance, what matters to you the most. When your done, take a good, hard look at thats paper. What are your priorities?
China should be taken care their own peoples and their own problem, leave the Tibet peoples alone, let them make their own decision on their relegions.
No reincarnation, LOL.  The reason no one is making that point David, is that it's not what the discussion is about.  The topic of this particular story has to do with a secular government mandating specific resolutions to religious issues for political expediency and control, so please suspend your disbelief for a moment so the rest of us can stay focused.  I think it's funny that the buddha was born in India and yet you don't see them saying they have the authority to name a buddhist figurehead.  The same goes for Indonesia, Thailand, Burma, Sri-Lanka and Nepal, all whom have been major centers of buddhist expansion and culture over the course of our history.....  
I'll bet if the Italians tried to name the Pope there would be hell to pay.  But when it comes to the Tibetans the world takes the position - who cares.
China can do anything it wants and nobody has the courage to fault them. It's a sad world we live in.
Tibetan Buddhism is not a religion but a philosophy .
The practice of meditation that is employed by these practitioners is not exclusive to buddhism . The term migration of souls is not accurate as stated as the term soul is not a tenet or precept of this philosophy . By gaining control of random thoughts and finding a level of inner peace one is often able to access intuitive knowledge . Intuitive knowledge is not limited to buddhist practitioners but available to all . The Dalai Lama's threat to the Chinese is due to his unifying nature , his relationship with Pope John Paul demonstrates the wisdom and philosophy he shares transcends religious and cultural barriers . His works speak of the ability of all regardless of faith to attain inner peace . The atrocities that the Chinese government and military have committed against Tibetans is well documented . Nuns and monks were forced to engage in sexual acts or be killed , they were also forced to urinate on religious texts . Recently the riots that preceded the Olympics resulted in the imprisonment of 1000's and the death of 100's . The Chinese have reduced the role of temples to be tourist attractions . To have a photo or a tattoo of the Dalai Lama or that speaks of one's desire for Tibet's freedom is punishable by imprisonment and the accompaning torture . The Chinese have encouraged ethnic chinese from nearby provinces to relocate to Tibet . Their inclusion into Tibetan society has changed the face of Tibet . Why would it be a suprise for anyone that Bejiing would do all in it's power to undermine a culture that has lived a peaceful often nomadic and ascetic lifestyle . The US and China are now suffering from years of overconsumption on every level . Our governments' relationship is based on mutual needs , the US hasn't acknowledged the Armenian massacre due to our need and desire to maintain military bases in Turkey . The relationship with China is based on economics and I doubt you will ever see our government take a stance that will jeopardize this mutually parisitic ( symbiotic seems disingenuous ) relationship .

  Buddhism is described as new age by some , it predates Christianity by some 500 years . There are many sects and sub cultures within the philosophy and they find commonality despite small differences in modality . We can all learn from these teachings and philosophies .....

To Jessica above me... what privileges would that be?  Like actually living in Tibet?  Or how about living at all.

You do know that China has implemented a policy of forcefully moving non-Tibetans to Tibet such that the Tibetans are now the minority in their own territory.

Now let people mingle and you slowly destroy the culture and/or breed the Tibetan people out of existence.


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