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Pakistanis have little faith in Obama 'change'

Posted: Thursday, November 06, 2008 5:12 AM
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By NBC News' Fakhar Rehman

ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN -- "As a Pakistani, I am not hopeful (Barack Obama’s) election will bring any positive change for Pakistan," said Zohra Aslam, 26, a lecturer of political science at Government College in Kohat, near the Afghan border.

Here in Pakistan, people all over the country followed the U.S. presidential campaigns with anticipation and in many cases skepticism. On election day, television channels stayed on air all night with special programming and analyses.

Image: Selling newspapers in Islamabad
AP
A Pakistani man sells evening newspapers with the headline story of Sen. Barack Obama's victory in the U.S. presidential election on a road in Islamabad, Pakistan, on Wednesday. 

"Obama or McCain, either way it's a lose-lose situation for Pakistan regarding U.S. policies towards our country," said Yasmeen Khan, a housewife and mother of three, in Quetta, capital of the southwestern province of Balouchistan.

Khan said she closely followed the campaigns for months and felt she got to know both candidates and their policies towards Pakistan. "I really admire the American election process," she said, trying to add a more positive note to her analysis. "We don't have free and fair election campaigns here- we need to learn that from the Americans."

Akram Zaki, 75, a former diplomat, was not shy about giving his opinion on the new president-elect. "Obama will be as bad for Pakistan as Bush," he said. "As long as our own government has no coherent policy on this war on terror, then the new U.S. government will continue with the ways of the past administration and dictate policy to us," he said.

"It's time for Pakistan to wake up and shape up and demand the U.S. respect the resolutions of our own democratic Parliament and stop these drone attacks inside our borders."

‘Constant U.S. drone attacks’
A majority of Pakistanis still view the war on terror as America's war and the missile attacks by unmanned U.S. predator drones on al-Qaida and Taliban targets inside the tribal areas along the Pakistan-Afghan border as a violation of their sovereignty.

"Despite billions of dollars that the Bush administration has poured into Pakistan, the U.S. government has not been successful in changing the perceptions of the Pakistanis towards the U.S," said Imran Javaid, a property developer in Islamabad. "The constant U.S. drone attacks on us have made a considerable dent in our once good bi-lateral relations."

Aamir Sheikh, 40, a businessman in the city of Rawalpindi , a 20 minute drive from the capital Islamabad, gave a long sigh of relief. "I am so happy that Bush has lost," he said. "I know Obama will bring peace to Pakistan and resolve all our issues thru talks," he said.

Khursheed Akhtar agreed. Akhtar, 36, owns an electrical appliance shop in Islamabad and his business, just like the rest of the Pakistani economy, is bad.

"The only reason Obama won was the American people themselves were sick and tired of the Bush administrations policies which ruined their economy," he said.

"Now it is up to Obama to improve the political and financial situation in Pakistan and in the whole world."

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Please... They really should look to improving their own utterly corrupt and toothless government themselves before hoping for Obama to come be their savior. I'm confident Obama's new approach of diplomacy on top of military might will be helpful, but he's not the Messiah. And he will not hesitate to engage militarily as well if tensions escalate along the border and in the Waziristan areas. If you want America to stop policing the world, then stop expecting us to solve your problems!
I'd like to tell Zohra Aslam that maybe Pakistan should start helping itself and stop waiting for handouts from the U.S.  They can start off by tracking down the terrorists that they've given safe harbor to for decades.  Pakistan has never been a friend to the U.S. yet we just keep helping them.
As a Pakistani-American, I have many of the same feelings as a lot of of the people posting here.  I do feel Pakistan needs to do much more to contribute to a solution to the problem there, and the people need to revolt against their gov't and rebuild it rather than allowing a constant stream of corrupt and uneducated individuals (except Musharraf) from taking the reigns.

That being said, we Americans DO have an obligation to help them financially and economically.  It doesn't seem that any of you realizes that we worked with Pakistani intelligence to create the extremists that are now causing these problems.  We share some of the blame, and resulting obligation, too.
I just hope and pray that Mr. Obama is good for US. I don't really care whether he will help financially others in the world. America needs help to re-build its economy and image. As a Pakistani I wish him and American people good luck and best wishes. As far as Pakistan is concerned, we need to get our house in order. All we should expect from our American friends is patience and understanding.
shawkat ali; dhaka, bangladesh in reference to your "ME policy"

What uou are referring to is the "Bush Doctrine" .

This is basicly one of the Major Areas of dispute between the Democrats and the Republicans.

The Republicans want to continue the "Bush Doctrine"
and the Democrats want VERY MUCH to stop it!

So there is hope the your people will view America somewhat better once President Obama takes office on Jan 20, 2009 until then be on your guard because George Bush is still running things there (D.C.)
But be of good spirits things will get better for all of us. At least it won't get worse I hope.

An American






There are unfortunate situations in many countries, including Pakistan and Iraq, just to name two.  At some point it is up to the people to step up and take responsibility.  The US cannot and should not be responsible for insuring these countries are successful, economically and politically.  We have too many issues at home that need addressing to be spending the billions we do outside our country.  NOt to mention that some of our efforts are ill-conceived and only add fuel to the fire (e.g. Iraq).  That many of these countries expect us to support them financially is a sign of the vicious cycle we have created.  Why make the hard decisions if you know that the US will be there to bail you out.

Unfortunately, some of our efforts overseas fall into the category of "no good deed goes unpunished".
I am beginning to wonder just how much we should care what Pakistan thinks. For seven years Pakistan and the Bush administration effectively gave safe-haven to Osama bin Ladin and his bunch by actively NOT persuing him for a variety of ridiculous reasons including that there were supposedly too many hills over there and also that we musn't offend Pakistan because they're such an important ally in the war on terror, although they have done virtually nothing concrete in that way beyond simply stating that they are our ally. In the mean time, bin Ladin roamed free and the fear of his next strike was part of what kept the Republicans in power. That shadowy but apparantly convenient business relationship will be over January 20th. So perhaps the Pakistanis have good reason to be concerned. In 2001, Bush said he'd leave no stone unturned in the quest to get bin Ladin. Perhaps now we will have a president who actually means it.
Okay... let's clarify something...the election of Barack Obama as the 44th president of the United States of America is wonderful, hiostorical, and identifies "CHANGE" has finally come to many of us, but it is not the only beginning of world peace.  he alone cannot provide world peace, not did he promise that during his campaign.  He said that it will take all of us, and he is ready to take the lead and help all of us make the changes needed to thrive and live profitably and peacefully.  He is just one man chosen by it's nation to lead a nation. To obtain world peace, we need this nation and the rest of the nations in the world, and of course, God almighty!  Yes, he is a very bright, compassionate, god-fearing, and a take-the-lead type of man who has proven he has the ability to articulate a meaningful conversation and bring many differnt people together promoting peace and tranquility amongst the ranks, which is alot more than we can say about many of the leaders we have had in the past.  I trust that with his intelligence, calm demeaner, and talented staff currently in the making the right ideals will be pushed for in aspects of governing a nation as well as in foreign policies.

As far as Pakistan, AS WELL AS the USA and other nations taht are ALL known to the world known for evil doings and corrupt governments and archaic traditions and policies that has caused pain and suffering for its own people as well as people in other parts of the world for far too long, I pray and I know your time is drawing near when GOOD WILL PREVAIL!!

That's right... I said it.  The USA is no angel, and we have done terrible things in the past as well, so how can we throw stones, when we live in a glass house!!  Wake up people of the WORLD!!  YOU BETTER WAKE UP!!!

BOTTOM LINE!!  

Yes, a "CHANGE" has come to the USA, and it's coming to the rest of the world.  Those who are for it, jump on the band wagan.  those against it get out of the way or be prepared to get trampled.

I've enjoyed reading many of these comments as I respect and appreciate everyone's opinions.  Can one man change the world? No it takes mankind to the that...Can one man inspire a nation?  Yes, and that's what Obama has done, he's inspired everyone to go out and make the changes they seek and to stop blaming everyone for one's own failures.  If Obama has taught us anything, that is with a little hard work and determination you CAN be anything you heart desires.
As long as you harbor the worse mass murderer in modern history there will be no change for Pakistan. What we plan to do is change the status of bin Laden from living to dead.
Originally from Pete, NYC: "No more free lunches for Pakistan! That's what will change for Pakistan with Obama taking over. So far, Pakistan has been gifted too much American tax payer money without any accountability or responsibility. Obama will make sure that Pakistan doesn't get $1  from America unless it can demonstrate that it is sincerely fighting against the radical forces in that country. The days of the two-faced policy of the Pakistani Govt & Military of helping the radical forces, which it claims to be fighting, are over. Obama is not a dim-witted dummy like Bush & he'll make sure of this."

If Obama would extend this idea to Israel (the only apartheid nation left in the entire world, also check out their new impressive "Berlin wall", complete with razor wire and machine gun turrets) and stop their genocide of the Palestinians, I will support Obama 100%. Billions of dollars spent by the US for Israel to decimate a third world people who want the right to survive on the land they have lived for a dozen generations...doesn't give us a very good reputation worldwide.

Oh, Obama just made Rahm Emanuel his first pick of his new staff? Well, even though his father was a member of militant paramilitary Zionist extremist group Irgun (anybody other than an Israeli would of course, be called a terrorist) I'm sure he will have an unbiased opinion of how to deal with the plight of the poor Palestinians...with more guns and bombs from the US.

Can the US PLEASE stop getting involved with the Hebrew - Muslim holy war? This is not our political concern, and it is destroying this country.

Obama will be a puppet just like Dmitry Medvedev of Russia! So America, Pakistan, and all other countries hold on ,because it will be a bumpy ride for the next four years!!!!!!!!
Obama is a good person.But remember he is a politician and won by oratory and a lot of promises.Any body would have won as long as it was shown that the election is aganist Bush.We have not chosen an emperor or a messiah.He has to work with the congress and the political realities.Let's hope he can deliver what he promised.In regard to Pakistan,from what he has said it is a bad news.He will come with a whip agaisnt Pakistan Govt.,which may not be bad.Pakistan need to clean its house itself and not beg for help outside.
To all those who want to learn about the culture of Pakistani tribal areas, please read "Three Cups of Tea" by Greg Mortensen. This book will also tell you how to best fight the war on terror.

Being a Muslim in America, I do not believe much coming from this article, as people in Pakistan too are misinformed about candidates in the US and their choices. I believe Obama is a much better choice for the US and also for the world.

I can tell you that the media in both parts of the world is so biased and manipulative. I know many Muslims were deceived in supporting Bush in the last two elections by their own authorities and their own government-controlled media. E.g. in 2004, there were pamphlets in mosques which were focusing on Gay rights, abortion and many social issues, but never talked about the ongoing war in Iraq. They pretty much showed John Kerry as a social evil and Bush as a saint. Pakistani TV officially advertised for Bush campaign.

I do feel that Obama will be tough on war, which is good not only for America but also for Muslim countries, but at the same time it is the approach and the strategy of this war that need to be changed. I believe Obama will fight it wiser.
I am simply amazed to see how ppl say that America has been paying it's tax payers money to Pakistan to help Pakistan lol this is a big joke.American tax payers money was paid to dictators zia-ul-haq,Musharraf what happened they became millionaires.
what happened to Pakistan nothing just borrowing increased.
so America pays these dictators and say they are helping pakistan.As a Pakistani I ask why did you help them at first place.The world should have showed that they do not in any way support dictators and I doubt we would have seen so many dictators and  I highly doubt things would have gone so bad.
just six years ago our family went to swat valley(where a war is going on now) a beautiful place very beautiful place I saw many tourists local and foreigners,we bought a small hotel there at that time it looked a good investmen and see where things have gone from there a complete loss.
war in swat shows that the war is spilling over form border areas it is not to swat valley.I agree that extremists should be stopped but how military bombing?? i highlt doubt that can stop ya nuke them or use chemical or bio weapons and you may b able to evaporate ppl from there and then start over lol if this is what you want than i highly doubt you are humans and not different from those terrorist,so how to stop them first cut their money supply coz according to local ppl each talib is paid 15-20,000 rupees which is way over what many poor ppl earn and where do they get money form mostly from poppy fields in afghanistan so matter again goes into american hand.second help the local, win over their hearts instead of paying pakistani politicians ask them if you need our help you will have to let us supervise it you cant just simply pay them and forget it.Third pakistani govt instead of allocating millions to help develop karachi and lahore other parts of the country should also be developed.
This is a long term problem cannot be solved over night letting in American's into pakistan to carry on their operation wont help anyone.A military operation cannot win you this war.A carefully constructed strategy with cooperation of military,local people and ofcourse Americans can help you win this over but you have to be patient.
As i believe osama bin ladin,mulla umar are history new ppl are in town who can have far more agendas then just attacking the west.
I hope whole hartedly that the world understands that the solution to this problem is far more complicated than just ariel bombings and act out before it too late.I pray that Allah saves pakistan and ppl of pakistan Amen
Pakistan, which has more than 30 nuclear weapons is polarizing anti-american because of Taliban influence and rhetoric.  May we work out the solution with caution and intelligence is my hope for all people on this earth who want to choose there own destiny and not have a religion forced upon them through military conquests.
americans are not trust worthy people they expect pakistan to bomb terrorists while they themselves are killing our own innocent women and children in missile strikes pakistan should give them an ultimatum either they end violatations of our sovereignty or the war on terror is over they can have their cake and eat it too.
As expected, the Indian mafia has infiltrated this discussion with their misinformation and blatantly racist attacks.

The problem with terrorism and Al Qaeda is not a simple thing that Obama or anyone can solve easily.  At the root of the problem is US foreign policy in the Middle East and India, neither of which is likely to change given the realities of American media and financial life.  Notice how all candidates were falling over each other proving their allegiance to Israel.

Until US foreign policy changes, terrosism and Al Qaeda will not die.  They will simply move from one place to another.


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