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Vietnamese back the man they know

Posted: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:07 AM
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HANOI, Vietnam – Mention the U.S. election on the streets of Hanoi, and you are likely to get two very different reactions.

Among the young, the most common response is a shrug. But older people – the Vietnam War generation – are watching closely, and everybody I spoke to was backing the man they know: Sen. John McCain.

That may sound odd. McCain endured five and a half years in prison here after his Skyhawk bomber was shot down over the city in October 1967, and he parachuted into Hanoi's West Lake. 

VIDEO: Vietnamese voice support for McCain

But he is remembered most for what’s happened since then – his many return visits, and his role in helping to normalize relations.

‘He’s a friend of Hanoi’
"Everybody in Hanoi knows John McCain," said 76-year-old Tran Thanh Mei, as she posted a letter. "He’s a friend of Hanoi."

Thanh Mei lives beside what used to be one of the most notorious prisons in the city, known among its U.S. prisoners, as the Plantation. McCain described routine beatings and torture there.

She remembers the tight security, and says all the neighbors knew the "American pilots" were being held there. She says she felt strangely secure there, even when bombs were falling on the city, since she thought the bombers would avoid the prison.

Some of the buildings remain, mostly still in the hands of the army, though one section has now been converted into a fashionable coffee shop, busy with young people, and a cinema has been built.

No time for history
During our visit, "Minority Report" and the "Mummy 3" were among the Hollywood movies being shown. "If they show a Vietnamese movie, nobody will go," our guide said, dismissively.

Vietnam is an overwhelmingly young country – three-quarters of the population are under 30. They look to the west – and the U.S. in particular – for fashion and culture. The war is history for them, and few are closely watching the election.

"No, I really don’t know about it," said one young woman, selling Vietnamese silk and "Good Morning Vietnam" t-shirts. While in a shop next door, another young woman told us: "I don’t have a lot of time to watch television."

There is a youth and vibrancy about modern Vietnam, and while the young look to the future, the older generation is pragmatic, recognizing that normalizing relations with the U.S. has given an enormous economic boost.

VIDEO: McCain's captors remember him in Hanoi

‘I hope he is elected’
During our visit we sought out Vietnamese who’d met McCain. We found 81-year-old former nurse, Nguyen Thi Thanh. In his memoir, McCain says she saved his life, fending off a baying mob at the edge of Hanoi’s West Lake, and treating his wounds, putting splints on his arms and leg, and giving him antibiotics.

"Some people were very angry," she recalled, "but I was a nurse, it was my responsibility."

She doesn’t move so fast these days, but has been closely watching the progress of the man she treated.

"Sometimes I watch him on television, and he’s got really big. He used to be so young, thin and handsome," she told me. "He used to be part of the war, but now he’s running for president, which is a good thing. I hope he is elected."

We also met one the men who had dragged a badly injured McCain out of the West Lake. He too recalls the anger, and the chants of "beat him, beat him," but forty-one years have mellowed Le Van Lua.

"I feel that he could be the winner," he now says of McCain. "If he wins, it’s good. Already through his dealings with the Vietnamese government, John McCain has really helped Vietnam."

Surprising endorsement
Perhaps most surprising of all is the man who ran Hoa Lo, the notorious Hanoi Hilton prison, where McCain spent two years after the Plantation.

These days Tran Trong Duyet, talks about his "friend" McCain, who he describes as "strong willed, but with a sense of humor."

He dismissed the well-documented reports of brutality in the prison system. "During ‘office hours’ I would call him to my office and have fierce debates about the war. But ‘after hours’ we would talk to each other as friends."

He calls McCain a "model American soldier," who helped teach him English.

As for today: "If I had a vote, I would choose the person I knew well. So I would vote for John McCain."

That must go down as one of the strangest endorsements the Arizona senator is ever likely to get.

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don, I don't recall ever hearing mccain refer to himself as a hero.  that's a tag others have foisted on him.

and, having spoken with him many times over the years, i know for certain he'd agree with you that the names on the wall are the heroes.  
i hope americans will not vote a party that will soil their image around the world. i am saying it, it may the end of american empire as said by ahmadinejad.how can we vote someone that all he is saying, they wrote it for him?the whole world is watching.i am afraid what will happen if republican handle america with this situation, in the next 4yrs.i am telling everybody to leave imagination of race behind and lets shine our eyes for reality.lets vote some that rebuild american confidence around the world.i am not talking to favor Obama, but i am happy for him that even oldest living woman of af america supported him.Macain who claimed experience but chooses an illiterate in politics, national and int'l  as running mate, this is a very big sign of what is going to come.we shall not vote for the end of america, but for the future america.
Kate,

I was an Air Force forward air controller in Vietnam.  Where were you stationed?  I was wounded calling in air drops at Khe Sanh in '68.  Given the name I'm assuming you were a nurse.
mcbush...graduated #894 out of 899, crashed 3 jets before the last one and he got caught by viet-con spend 5 years in a rat hole. when he finally got home saw his wife cripple from an accident decided to become an adulterer with young bimbo cindy cuz she has lots of money. ahhh the keating scandle, voted against women's rights, gi bill, still support torture, supported 90% with bush's policies! should i keep going? sarah palin, she's dangerous neo-con like bush and cheney...nope, no mccain no palin. i'm white voting for "that one" and i approve this message!
You ever notice the hate that spews from the left unchecked in the media.  They are mean, ugly people that you can see in some of the comments after this article.  Our country will only get wore with Pelosi, Reed and Obama at the helm.  Vote for the patriot, McCain.
Why do all of you people seem to think that someone needs to suffer for his country in order to serve as President?  Does that mean that somehow the millions of veterans out there should automatically be given a pass to be President just because they went and got shot at?  My grandpa is a WWII vet with a Bronze star and a Purple Heart, and I love him more than anything but he shouldn't be President just because he served in the war.
McCAIN is a HERO. Country first, he is a good PATRIOT sample for all. He deserve to be THE PRESIDENT OF USA
I think when McCain loses his bid to be the next president of the United States next month he should seriously consider running for President of Vietnam and naming Sarah Palin his Prime Minister. The way the polls are tabulating now I'm gonna go out on a limb a proclaim a landslide victory in his favor!

Knew you could do it all along John...if there's anyone who could turn a POW stint into a presidential platform it was you! One thing that puzzles me though...how did he manage to teach English and debate war during while in solitary confinement?? ? Must of had education and discussion breaks in between the torture sessions.
I believe nothing the racist, hate-mongering McCain camp says nowadays.  After last week they have lost any goodwill from me for good.  I won't stand for racism in 21st Century America.  McCain needs to really step back and look at what he has done to race relations in this country in less than a week.
John McCain is as American as it gets. He is for his own country right of wrong. That is the way it should be. America has made mistakes, but the worst mistake it will or can make is to elect Obama, he will sell America down the river. Where does Obama get his backing, money etc. Has anyone dug into the means he has to do what he has done? The extreme Muslims have stated that they will finanically break America, are they pumping money into the Obama coffers? They want this country, so they can ruin it like they have ruin many others.
Of course it's easy for the Vietnamese to support McCain.  Whatever decisions McCain makes doesn't effect them.  
Like I really do not see what does this have anything to do with the election. Given the older generations of Vietamese knows about McCain, it's obvious they will side with him no matter what. They're connected through the war, nothing more.

Patriotism should not ever be the sole deciding factor in making a voting decision, and it is not in mine. Patriotism will not put food on the table, help the economy, create jobs, etc. My decision is base on the important issues, not on patriotism.

So this story is a 'good feel' story, nothing more. It does not have anything to do with the election at all.
GOD BLESS MCCAIN WEATHER HE WINS THIS ELECTION OR NOT. I DON'T SEE WHAT SACRIFICE MR. OBAMA HAS DONE. IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT HE HAS BEEN DENOUNCING OUR COUNTRY FOR A LONG TIME. NOW THAT IS HAS A CHANCE TO BE PRESIDENT THE SONG AND DANCE CHANGES. GOD BLESS AMERICA OUR PEOPLE, OUR SOLDIERS AND EVERYTHING SHE STANDS FOR.  
Well waaaayyynnnee Cleeemmm, I see you just see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear McCain Is NO angel like you think he is. Just because he was a pow doesn't mean he can run this country. I thank him for what he has done, but thats as far as it goes. this country desperately needs a change with fresh new ideas instead of more than the same.
I wonder where Obama got his money??  He was supposedly from a middle to lower middle class family.  Yet, he was able to travel to Kenya, Indonesia etc. while in college.  When he got back he decided Barry was no longer his name.  He was then able to go to two ivy league schools.  Upon graduation he should have been eyeball deep in student loans but he was able to take a job in Chicago (why not NYC? cause his $$ was from the "bad guys" with ties in Chicago)as community organizer for $12,000 a year.  Yet he was able to buy a $2,000,000 home?  Does this sound ethical or possible to anyone?  It makes me wonder where he got his money!  I do not think it was from anybody that wishes our country the best.  I think he is supported by many unscrupulous and dare I say possible terrorist organizations.  He IS an eloquent speaker...it seems like he has been groomed for this his whole adult life.  I am not remotely religious but; he may well be the wolf in the sheep's clothing that the bible speaks of that will be the downfall of the world as we know it.  
Kate from Issaquah, WA..... It sounds to me as though you and a lot of others have already been fooled again. Just take a look at the racism in the church that Osama Obama attended for 20 years, and all of his shady associates. And you want this young greenhorn to run our country when he has done nothing but show disrespect for it?? God help us all...... change is what he preaches and I have no doubt change it would be. You better get ready to learn a new language if he is elected.
Okay, so lets say Mcclame does get the office. Is his strategy to Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran, and perhaps N. Korea>>> and here we go with WWWIII? I would rather talk first then if all fails whip out a can of kick-butt on my enemies than to just rile up the whole World in a new World War. But lets face it Mcclame spent most of his tour in Vietnam, about 90% of it locked down. Thats not a Hero, I got many friends that never made it back and they bled there life away in that war. We don't need some Old Crazed Maniac who doesn't have many more years in this life  and could care less if HE were to take us to the next level (WWIII). Read this article about your hero.  http://www.truthout.org/article/mccain-and-pow-cover-up   It is written by renowned 1976 Pulizer Prize winner and Vietnam War correspondent from the New York Times of that era Sydney H. Schanberg he can be found on Wikipedia.

Go Obama 2008-2016
LONG LIVE OUR SOLDIERS AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DOWN PLAY MCCAIN'S SACRIFICE SHAME ON YOU. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR YOUR COUNTRY ? ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY? SHAME ON ALL OF YOU. BELIVE WHAT EVER YOU WANT TO BELIEVE BUT DON'T TRY TO DOWN PLAY WHAT HE DID. SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE NEED MORE MEN WHO ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE FOR FREEDOM AND NOT SIT AND DO NOTHING.
It makes me wonder that a Senator who was supposedly tortured as a POW would endorse torture by the CIA against enemy combatants...there's got to be a special place in hell for such a person.  McCain will do anything and say anything to get elected, just like he endorsed torture against others to find favor with his bloodthirsty base followers.
Some of you people have no brains at all.  McCain was not a friend of the enemy during the war and there are many other former POWs that attest to that.  McCain did put aside his differences and the past after the war and became one of the people who normalized relations with Vietnam instead or remaining bitter and angry.  This shows McCain's leadership and is another accomplishment.  Obama on the other hand has accomplished nothing except to falsley aggrandize himself.
This is mostly a testimony to the Vietnamese on putting that heinous criminal war behind them. I disagree with them completely on their choice for president, but it's understandable based on a narrow understanding. For me McCain supported this second criminal enterprise to make up for the failure on the first one. It's just too bad that Americans don't learn lessons very easily. They keep getting hoodwinked by the 'experts' in government and business.
Ray, from Seattle your a lucky individual to be able to say what you say,  even though your as lame as you are.  

I would like to see how many of you out there could do what John McCain did.  I know I couldn't and the rest of you dim witted people be thankful for what you have.  How dare you.....
S. Vietnam a country the U.S. was helping to prevent the spread of "COMMUNISM," yes John McCain flew combat missions against the norths infrastructure and he was shot down.  He spent 5 1/2 years in their torture chambers becuase he wouldn't accept early release because of his father.  Americans need to look back and see that former enemies (American and Vietnamies) embracing each other, holding nothing against each other.  They have forgiven past transgressions.  Senator McCain has looked past party politics to bring peace to former enemies, to the democrats who denounce Senator McCain, what has your candidate done to promote world peace???  "NOTHING"  The only thing I see on this blog is hate, denouncing a "PATRIOT" a "DEFENDER of OUR FREEDOMS," but you want change, if Senator Obama is elected you will see change, Americans giving up more freedoms and slowly becoming a socialist state.  America look back and notice something, the radicals of the 60's and 70's are now the high power lawyers, politians, and university professors working behind the sceens to change America's way of thinking.  Thjis country needs a Patriot like Jofn McCain leading us in this time of conflict.  Just remeber America, if we forget the past or turn a blind eye to it we are dooming ourselves to repeat history over and over again.  I thought we were suppose to learn from the past se we don't make the same mistakes our fore fathers learned.  

Brad    
If people would read: about the Vietnam POW experience they will.

1: All the POWs had breaking points, due to the
torture, and eventually broke down and "confessed"
 Don't confuse forced compliance with cooperation
2: "Innocent victims of McCains bombings"-In all wars innocent people are killed.  Do you think that no innocents were killed in the bombings of Berlin, Tokyo Rome.
3: Actually the POW experience was never Hollywoodized. It has been very well documented.

Folks,
Please broaden your horizons, read what's out there and apply. Don't just read what you agree with
Yes, it's wonderful that McCain is all for normalizing relations with a communist country that we lost 58,000 lives in. Yet, he supports Bush on not normalizing relations with another communist country 90 miles from our shores where we didn't loose 58,000 lives. Why? Because the Republicans need the votes of all those old time Castro haters.  
The skin color of both candidates play a role in the way Vietnamese (especially older people in Vietnam)  think and not look at each candidate's record and policies.  If you travel to Vietnam, you see alot more of Caucasian than African American tourists and they are exposed to that.  Vietnamese in America are more tolerant and are more open.  So I think is really bias and racially motivated.
Sen. John Mccain was not the only P.O.W.,lets not forget all the others who served and died for this Country we all love. I Come from a family of men who served in the Armed forces, I too served in the U.S.Army, that's why it's important that we vote for Change,Barrack Obama. Proud to American.To Judge a person by Name and not the content of ones Character, is backwards,racist thinking,America can ill afford,that kind of behavior and call itself a World leader.  
People,People,People, who are you going to vote for, get a reality check.This election has become a simple one to vote for now.The Democrats have made the decision for us.They decided they wanted Obama and not Clinton.That just means the american voters are so screwed up in this country. That they want a person to lead our country with very little political experience over a women who has many more years of experience. Again, woman get put in third place in our country. They must be crazy the Democrats to think that the smart american people would vote for a person that has little political experience in this time of economic crisis. Clinton has many,many years of experience but the Democrats  made there choice. Why would you want to put somebody in as President in these terible times that has very little experience.If you think it's bad now, if Obama gets in the white house with his years of experience watch out. Remember once our country had a depression look out america.This wouldn't be Obama's fault as the Democrats would say.Lets stop with the blame and fix the future and the future belongs with experience.I say we should and need somebody with years of experience the white house in these economic bad times. If the Democrated voters made Clinton there lead person it might be a different story.Now there is only one way to vote with experience in these economic bad times that we are in. I don't want somebody with little experience as my leader in this crisis,this is a no-brainer for your choice as president. People let's vote smart, not who is promoted.If it isn't Clinton then it has to be McCain this is a no-brainer for future hope.
For all the "red" blooded Americans who know the truth, please don't think that everybody in Washington state are sheep. Remember, Puget Sound holds a lot of Kool-Aid but thank God when I moved up here I was warned "Don't drink the water"
This would be a red state if not for king county.
Ray...wake up.  McCain gives Obama a lot of respect.  This is an election and neither is playing to lose.   Are they going to play hard and fast? Heck yes.  But-  McCain and Obama have kept a certain amount of respect for boundaries visible in this campaign and for that I applaud both.   Try and show some of the character that both of these opponents have shown.   At the end of the day, if McCain loses...at least I know he will work with Obama withour reservation to the benefit of this Nation.  
VOTE for McCain!  He is the better candidate for president....unless you want a communist for a president? NObama!  
First of all, who cares?  Second, when Europeans voiced their support of Obama, it was deemed "elitist" and adding to Obama's "celebrity".
I'll let you in on a little secret...losing (3)planes mark you as a military failure.  Few men get to the highest ranks after losing an aircraft.  The idea is to make the enemy lose resources, anything less is mission failure.  
To those that seem that this a good meaningful thing... are you the same ones who say "Who cares what the Germans think about Obama?"
Wow, so much idiocy here and so little time...

Mary in Oregon and levi cro:  get a clue.  you clearly have no idea what it's like to be a POW, nor have probably suffered any significant hardship in your life... besides the time the drive thru was closed and you couldn't get your fat burger.  If you spent 1 single day in the Hanoi Hilton you would have spilled your guts.

Don Dukeman:  if you actually are a vet, then I thank you for your service... but your post seems illogical.  Sounds like you are blaming McCain for not getting killed.  Well, here's news:  a soldier doesn't have to die to be a hero.  John McCain volunteered to transfer to that carrier and flew additional combat missions that he did not have to.

I do not feel that McCain is going to be a perfect president, but I feel he would be far, far better than Senator Obama.
Noticed the two pictures are of elderly Vietnamese. OF COURSE THEY SUPPORT McCain, he's of their ERA. U.S. elderly leaned toward McCain too until last week when they found out their retirement account was halved. NOW they start thinking perhaps pocketbook more important than old romanticism.

Why don't they survey young Vietnamese? U know, the ones who listen to hip-hop.

What a non-issue article.
This was my first time reading the comments section. I found the ignorance and spitefulness disturbing.
If this is suppose to be impressive...forget about it

McCain is desperate....and the FEW Vietnam folks

voting for him is probably...SENILE
Ok, let's start with MILT, in GA:
THe Manchurian Candidate was brainwashed by Russian/Chineese COMMUNIST at the instruction of his Americian COMMUNIST mother. So, you see it wasn't so mcuh WHERE he was brainwashed that mattered but that it was done by COMMUNIST.

Now for Little Levi, also in GA, who doesn't want to hear about the past but who wants a NEW WORLD ORDER. First Levi, an expression from the past you would do well to remember "THAT WHICH WE FAIL TO REMEMBER WE ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT". Since Milt brought up movies, here's a movie you both should really watch, the original TIME MACHINE. The young people in it were a great deal like you and most of your generation, STUPID, LAZY AND SELF CENTERED and they become food...

It crackes me up that all you bleeding heart liberal Democrats only bleed for people who are Communist. When these same Vietnamese we're fighting for Uncle HO, you all supported them, went to visit them, sat on the very guns that they used to shoot our men out of the sky with,and cried crocidile tears when we bombed them. Now, your pissed because they recognize that John McCain was doing is duty? Because they understand that when you go to war with someone, and the war ends, you RECONCILATE, as John McCain has done and you try to make things better for both sides so you never have a reason to fight again.

FOR DON who served 2 tours in Vietnam, thank you for your service Don, you are sir are my hero, but John McCain is my hero, too. You don't have to  be dead to be a hero. You don't have to get captured to be a hero. YOU JUST HAVE TO SERVE YOUR COUNTRY and not degrade it by REFUSING TO SALUTE ITS FLAG or by ALLOWING YOUR WIFE TO SAY SHE CAN'T BE PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN IF WE DON'T LET  HER HUSBAND BE PRESIDENT.
The only thing I respect John McCain for was the fact that he not only served his country but that he was a POW, but so were many others...my opinion of the man is that he is bitter..he has stooped very low in his bid for the white house, it was only after the shout of "kill him" did he stop with the lies about Obama..sorry Sen. McCain, but you hopefully will never have the chance of being our next president.
I married into a Vietnamese family. Their general concensus is that they support McCain because they believe that the Chinese communists have paid off Obama to succeed in obtaining the presidency and working toward Chinese goals.
Change???? Change what? Change to Worst or Better? Has Obama ever mentioned how he will change. It is easy to say, but hard to do. I think Obama is a good speaker, and usually good speakers don't do as good as they speak. Becareful! Obama is throwing out a big HOPE. Most of the time HOPE doesn't happen the way people hope.  
Mc and Pal are two of the worst to team;they both are pulling the GOP off the narrow road that they are traveling. This party will be damaged for years because they have not seen the right.
Some of the comments here are uncalled for and not appropriate.  Some comments are racist, rude, and poor taste.  Grow up!
Since when do we let world leaders dictate who we vote for in an election.  There is only one candidate that has a calm hand and isn't a old "Nut Case" with a female Cheney.  I'm a Vietnam Vet and I'm supporting Barack Obama.  Republicans have screwed us for eight years and don't deservice to be put back in charge.
This is the type of thing that made me a McCain supporter back in 2000.  There is a side to McCain that is honorable and worthy of our respect and appreciation.  After he lost the primary in 2000, however, he essentially sold out.  Rather than doing what he knew was right, he bought into Bush-Cheney politics and policies so that he could be next in line for a run at the White House.  I am so disappointed in his campaign's do anything/say anything approach to this election.  He has allowed an ignoramus in a skirt and assorted henchmen to spew lies about and incite hatred toward his oponent based on those very same lies.  It's disgraceful and it tarnishes McCain's legacy.

"That One"  2008    
I have to sit here and chuckle after reading some of the drivel some people are spitting out on their keyboards.  Where some people get that Obama is “secretly” trying to take over the world, as some gullibly believe, is beyond me.  I mean we will be “speaking another language” if he is elected president?  Based on what?  What your pastor told you in church on Sunday?  Do some honestly believe that he will be the end of the world?  He studied at a Muslim school in Indonesia for a few years and that now makes him a terrorist?   Wow, people will believe anything the media cranks out.  Don’t get me wrong, I am not trying to favor Obama and I have nothing “too terrible” to say about McCain but some of the information I have heard people base their opinions off of is just pure comedy.  And that goes for both sides.
Being a Vietnam veteren with multiple tours, I am trying to undestand why so many people find it hard to believe that people have moved on with their lives since the 70's, and can have opinions and support candidates.

I believe that we need to take the time to look at the experience that both candidates have to bring into the office of President, and make your choice in November.  

The election is about which candidate will be able to lead the country into a future that will enable all americans Republican, Democratic, or Independent to continue to reap the benefits of Democracy.

As americans we shoud take pride in the fact that our election is being watched buy other nations, many of which do not have the freedom to vote.  

Our Constitution gives you the freedom to speak out and say what you feel is right, I support this, and like many of you I am excercising that right.  

God Bless America, Please take the time to show your respect and support to both candidates, and VOTE your choice.  


Roger Cross in Wilmington, NC says "True Americans will vote McCain!!!!!!!

Ummm, no, Roger. True Americans will vote their consciences. Americans who have forgotten what it is to be true Americans say "Only true Americans think as I do."

McCain's war experiences have nothing at all to do with his viability as a U.S. President. His wavering track record, his troubles with anger management, and the immense lapse of judgment in choosing Sarah Palin after accusing Obama of inexperience say everything about his ability to lead. Lots of true Americans are listening intently to what it says.
How did McCain become a jet pilot anyway? Didn't the Naval academy only pick the brightest and best physicaly for those prime position? I guess you get a easy ride if your dad just happen to be the admiral for the navy. I rather vote for someone who had achieve something thru his own hard work than some someone who ride his parent tail coat and influences. The communist had no fear of John McCain because they all know that out in public he all bravado but alone and in the dark he bend like a wet noodle.


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