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Egyptians looking for 'good side' of America

Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:07 AM
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CAIRO – After eight years of watching the Middle East peace process disintegrate into violence, five years of what most here regard as an illegal U.S. occupation of Iraq, the ensuing Sunni-Shiite conflict, and the subsequent rise of Iran as a nuclear threat in the mainly Sunni Gulf, most Egyptians agree that President Bush's legacy in the region has been one of instability.

VIDEO: Egyptian share their views on the U.S. election

Many Egyptians believe Sen. John McCain will likely hew to Bush's foreign policy and that Sen. Barack Obama will be more likely to solve, or at least attempt to solve, those pressing issues that are nearest and dearest to people's hearts here: the Palestinian/Israeli conflict and the war in Iraq.

"If McCain wins, the general perception seems to be that we're screwed," Sara Inani, a university drama professor, said during a recent interview in Cairo.

Although she prefers Ralph Nader, she believes most Egyptians feel that "if a Democrat wins, we have a fighting chance." And the most important issue for Inani? "War in Iraq, slam dunk. Most people would like to see the U.S. pull out."

Hoping negativity towards U.S. will ‘go away’
There is a sense among many Egyptians that Obama could restore the rush of warm feelings most Arabs held for the United States during the Clinton administration and erase the bad feelings generated by the Iraq war and the perceived pro-Israeli bias of the Bush administration.

"Peace in the Middle East will be good for all of us," in Iraq, Egypt and everywhere, said travel agency manager, Abdul Khaleq Fathi. He said he was impressed by an Obama speech on the Middle East and its future.

"I prefer Obama…Maybe because he has roots from Africa," added a colleague of Fathi’s, expressing a sentiment shared by many Egyptians that the Democratic candidate may be more empathetic toward Arabs because of his African and Muslim ancestry.

Yahya Khalil, a famous Egyptian jazz musician, was emphatic in his support for Obama."McCain will be the same line as where we are today and I'm not very happy with where we are today. I would like to see change and we hope the change will be for the better."

Khalil also expressed a hope shared by many Egyptians that affection for the U.S. will be rekindled if Obama is elected.

"America is a place that I love," says Khalil who holds dual U.S.-Egyptian citizenship. "I want the whole world to see the good side of America. And the bad side – created by politics that create this negativity between Americans and other parts of the world – should really go away."

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A refreshing viewpoint. We have a responsibility to be good world citizens, not just good American citizens
Dear MSNBC,

Can you be more obvious in your bias TOWARDS Obama?
These individuals comments from Egypt reflect what most people in the world think. It is time for a change. This change is not only important for the world it is important for the United States.
Why is this nonsense news? I'd like to see a good side of Egypt. They are doing nothing to help any problems over there and have a corrupt government and are taking billions in US aid.
This is not the world's election, it's ours.  I find it offensive that MSNBC or any OBAMA pundit try to shore up support in foreign countries for this political mystery man.  The core issues of this election are whether we the people control our country or do we hand it over to dishonorable fabricators like Obama, the fringe lunatics and the media.
Bush has trashed our reputation here in America. Perhaps Obama/Biden can restore our credibility in the world. We are part of a world community. Bush is a warmonger and has turned us into a rouge state ... lol

Seriously, though ... with Bush/Cheney policy on torture, invasion of countries bolstered by lies and deception, disregard for the world community, what do we expect?

Restore our integrity!
I would like to know what the Arab world doing to solve the Isreali-Palestinian conflict.  It has been 60 years already! Where is true leadership.  While I agree the Iraq war was a very bad move on the part of the US. It's too simple and unfair to blame the US for everything that is wrong in that part of the world.  Do Egyptians kow how much money (the US taxpayer) sends to Egypt? ........and other countries in the the Middle East and North Africa?
I BELEIVE THAT OBAMA IS FOR THE GOOD OF ALL MAN KINDS. WE NEED A CHANGE AND HE IS THAT CHANGE. OUR CANADIAN FRIENDS FROM CANADA ALSO BELEIVE THAT HE IS THAT CHANGE WE NEED.
Two Egyptian professors, a travel agency manager, and a jazz musician -- that sounds like a representative slice of Egypt. Or maybe just one dinner party's conversation inflated into an article.
One of the major places we have failed in our Mideast relations is quite simply PR.  America DOES provide billions of dollars in aid to countries around the world, and when we engage in conflicts within those regions, the emphasis of the propaganda is always on the conflict.  We need to keep a clear focus on the good we do for these nations, as well as clarifying our message about the reason for our engagement in the conflict.  Most of those who don't trust America don't have a clear picture that our intent is not, has never been, and I'm most certain will never be, to inflict an American agenda upon them.  Americans have a proud history of being a melting pot, and the reason democracy works here is because our citizens are allowed to work, worship, and live in peaceful co-existence with those Americans who may believe other than they do.  That definition of democracy has never been clearly understood by those in the conflicted areas of the Mideast.  Sadly, even with better PR, the cultural differences may well mean that our efforts there will never bear fruit, regardless of who the next President is.
I agree with Feldman fron NY. What if anything has any Middle East Government done to help themselves? Not one Arab country has ever done anything to curtail violence. Yes Pakistan tries but they do so becasue of US pressure. Egypt, Syria, Iran, and all of the Gulf states. Nothing to police Islamic fundamentalism and radical islam in thier own countries. All we hear is that its the US's fault. Even our own politicians are railing against thier own government. GOOD OR BAD Loyalty is out the door when you talk about many of our powered citizens.  Im ashamed!!!!
Who cares what a bunch of non Americans, non republicans, non heros, think!  Me and sweetcheeks have the pulse of people who love guns, fox news, tax breaks, private clubs, and all those other red blooded American traits like short attention spans and playing golf.
Is the liberal media going to stop trashing the USA once Obama is elected?
They asked a question of Egypitians.. "Who would you rather have at the helm of the US"...  It's not too surprising they are not interesting in McCain, who was right in line with Cheney throughout the Bush Administration for for so long..  I don't think there is a bias here, just simple fact that people are tired of Cowboy diplomacy, and McSame won't be changing much in most people's views, as the polls show Obama ahead in the US.
Well, first off I don't think anyone from Egypt can speak ill of US foriegn policy.  I guess as far as the Middle East goes Egypt is not that bad.  What a region it is when we say that countries like egypt and Jordon are alright.  Thats scarry.    
Quite simply, who cares. My opinion of most of the middle east is very low...what are they doing to change that!?!
Unlesss that Egyptian is now an American, his opinion is just that.
Well, first off I don't think anyone from Egypt can speak ill of US foriegn policy.  I guess as far as the Middle East goes Egypt is not that bad.  What a region it is when we say that countries like egypt and Jordon are alright.  Thats scarry. Who cares what they say, why don't they try to solve their own problems.  I think the us should pull all aid from the Middle East, execpt Israli, that way when they gripe like bigots they will acutally have something to gripe about.  We can't do enough for them to make them happy so lets not do anything  
Dear Bernard,  What are the Egyptians doing to help solve these problems?
Perhaps the Egyptians should take care of their own country's problems before they start tring to meddle in ours.  I for one would like to see a democratically accountable government in Egypt.
Greg,

You really need to educate yourself. Egypt has cracked down very hard on Islamic extremism. Much of the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood is in prison. The main problem in the Middle east is that the governments help themselves too much and do nothing for their people. This is what has created Islamic extremism. The Bush Administration has handed billions to Mubarak but has done nothing to stop the persecution of prodemocracy groups in Egypt.  

The president of the US really is the president of the whole world. US military and economic policy has an enormous effect on people around the world. Yet they have no say in who that president will be. They are left dependent on Americans to make the right decision.
Egypt, in the northeast corner of Africa, has not been as rebellious as some of the countries in the southern part of Africa or countries in the middle east.  But, all of this is a sign of the times - last days on earth.

SLM
It's interesting to read and listen how the world views us. It's not great.
Bush/Cheney have wiped their feet on our constitution and screamed at the world, "Either you are with us or against", and for all of those voted for them. Now, we are now paying dearly for that blunder. Hopefully, we are smarter and wiser now, and vote for change.  Honestly we can't forward to pay for a monthly 10 billion dollar tab in Iraqi, along with the $700 dollar bail out. We need change, vote Obama/Biden!
During the Clinton warm fuzzy feelings tenure, the World Trade Center was attached twice and finally toppled on 9/11 (the 9/11 terrorists hatched and begin implementing their plan during the Clinton watch). They may hate us (now, under Bush) because they haven't been able to attack us since then...and they hate that and they are left to kill each other. And as far as anything being done in the peace process - yeah right - their hatred is towards anyone that doesn't hold their religous beliefs.
You just knew that the "liberal media bias" whining would come pouring out when people see that Obama is leading the race. Quit crying and put up better candidates than McCain and lipstick girl.
Navy ball cap is on the right trail......if Egypt wants Obama, that's another good reason to vote McCain. I guess they don't want him, I wouldn't either if I were wanting the US to be a watered down version of the Clinton admin
We put ourselves in the position of World Power, we've made promises and tried to be the example for World Democracy and Free Market.  What happens in America has an effect on all the world.  And for those Naysayers, "If we get out of the MidEast, specifically Iraq, then maybe they can work out their problems."
We are a globalized economy, if you don't see that today with the Dow dropping before 10,000 points because of the loss confidence globally you will never see it.  Because of this our standing around the world is very important for our economy.  If McCain is elected the rest of the world will turn their backs on us, thinking we are as stupids as the government of the last 8 years.  If you think our economy is bad now,  just wait.  The world wants Obama, and hopefully we are smart enough to make him OUR President, so that he can get the world behind America again.
Nonsense?  And this would differ from the current problems in *this* country in what way?  ie: Illegal occupation of a sovereign country (unprovoked), Wall street collapse, takeover of the government by the oil industry , people losing their homes...
Before criticizing other countries, maybe we should get our own glass house in order?
America needs Barack Obama and Joe Biden to help mend our relationships in the world.  Even our closest allies dislike Bush and his administration.  

As Obama put it "America needs to lead by power of  example, not example of power.  Bush and Cheney are the bullies of the school yard. McCain would just be more of the same.

It is good to hear the Egyptians speak of their love and respect that they used to have for America and want to have once again.
We need to reassure the world on November 4th that we're not the 4th Reich of Amerika bent on world domnation.  That's been the losing foreign policy that has lost our country it's position as the wrold's policeman, now too many see us as the world's bully thanks to the arrogant ignorant foreign policy of "Warmonger" Bush.

Now more than ever we need the wise calm leadership of Obama and Biden.  They will restore our standing among the world that "NeoNazi" Bush and his clone "Warmonger" McCain.  These two warmongers only want to keep lots of troops in Iraq so they can go to war with Iran at the drop of a hat.

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!
I was not aware that anyone could hold dual citizenship in America. I was led to believe that when you took the oath of citizenship you had to swear allegiance to America and give up all others. Just like Americans are not elligible for Kighthood in the UK, Americans are not allowed to accept that honor.
why is that the USA is found to be at the bottom of all the worlds trouble when are they going to stand up and take the blame for their own troubles and work on them instead of trying to change America from the outside, besides why does one select a leader by race or the religion of his family or how well he speaks on the stump.  the question what is in his past if anything that will reveal his true image of being a deceiver from the beginning and if he is elected he will then reveal that he was the son of a liar from the beginning and he will be revealed as the great deceiver that he is. As a liar what he says in public has nothing to do with what he does in private till it is to late to unravel the mess. One doesn't associate with the corrupt of this world if first they didn't have the same frame of mind. Birds of a feather flock together.  Beware of vultures in flight for they seek the dead to deveour.
Hi, whether or not these "testimonials" are true, I don't think ANYONE can argue against the image America once held as the Beacon of Light and Land of Opportunity and Tolerance. I am not going to say Bush destroyed this image, but I can comfortably say he has eroded our standing. I say Bush because he is the President. I have always believed that how we are perceived from without is just as important as how we are perceived from within.  Bush didn't create the Arab/Israeli conflict, so that isn't his fault. But (the administration's) efforts were absent because of our obsession with Iraq.  The Arab nations have been very much a part of the peace drive there, but because they do have eons old biases, it will be hard to garner support and trust between all parties until Israel feels confident that support is behind this effort. We're their only friend - either by default or by association, whatever. The Arab need the stability for their own reasons, but they and Israel can't work this out alone anymore - not when Israel is using our weapons, etc against the Palestinians. It is on our interest to help, after all, even if not for either part, are we not a great nation of problem solvers?  Go America! I may not prefer Obama as my democratic nominee, but we have conferred a lot of hope and expectations upon him.  He must deliver.  If McCain is elected, I don't think anyone will expect anything, so the bar will be pretty low in terms of net change from the status quo.
World citizens indeed- how about scape goats for the world.... having lived overseas for many years, there is not any 'true love' for us- just a calculation as to how much can be be taken for... many of the countries are not interested in trying to solve many of the problems in their neighborhood- they want someone else to and too often, the U.S., having this sense of 'be all to everyone', puts on their 'rose coloured' glasses and jumps in without testing the temperature or depth of the waters... The U.S. needs to concentrate on repairing itself here at home before trying to save the world- let the world work on their skills of communication and negotiation- it's time that they step forward....
I agree with Feldman, the moderate Arab nations should take on a much bigger role, particularly finacial, in helping to quel the seemingly endless turmoil over there. After all, its their region so they should be more motivated to stabilize it.
Hey, MSNBC,
is Barrack Hussein Obama running for POTUS or president of the EGYPT ?

I am confused? Is America still a FREE Country? or
a SHARIA Country?
NObama doesn't have the experiance to be dog catcher.
Anyone who believes he does shouldn't be allowed to vote. Are you kidding me?
I'd vote for Colin Powell or Rice in a heart beat. Now there are people with experiance. Nobama? Please!
He has experiance alright...hanging out with the likes of Wright or terrorist sympathizers. He can't even come up with a legal birth certificate.
God help us all if Hussein gets in there.
The "go it alone attitude" reflected by some of the people posting is exactly what has allowed the Iraq War to flounder and why this will cost us, our children and granchildren, one trillion plus.  We are disliked by almost all foreign countries, with the exception of the former Soviet Eastern Bloc nations who rely on us as a buffer from Russia, and despised by many other countries, especially in the Middle East.  Who cares?  As long as we want their oil, they have us by the short hairs and we have to be engaged there to keep the supply of crude flowing.  And this constant mantra of liberal media is asinine, like the statement that all Republicans are fascists.  It is vacuous and ignorant; a beer fueled yodel.  The mainstream media is owned by the wealthiest of Americans and foreigners, including Rupert Murdock.  These people want to keep their money and support organizing the tax system so the burden is shifted to the middle and working classes, a much more likely scenario to be maintained with Republicans in elected office.  They, unlike most Americans, vote their economic interests rather than allowing themselves to be distracted by cultural issues such as gay marriage.
The people of the Middle East have a low opinion of the U.S. because we interfere in their own governance and yes we do install our will when we can. Does anyone remember the overthrow of the PEOPLES ELECTED LEADER IN IRAN IN 1953 by the Eisenhower administration?  That being said, the people of the Middle East need to quite hating each other over minor tribal or religious differences and solve their problems themselves.  They need to reign in Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists and love the Israeli Palestenian conflict. Israel is not going to go away. The Palestenians are wanted by no one..not Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordon or any of the others. Forget where things were when the new state of Israel was formed.  Work from where things are today and solve this and learn to live together. TOLERANCE IS WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS!  I agree with the rest of the world..Obama offers the best chance of diplomatic resolution and ending the conflict in Iraq and Afghanastan. Bush's go it alone policies have destablized the entire world
SHOULD IT BE REASSURING TO AMERICANS THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD WANTS OBAMA TO BE PRESIDENT?  IS IT BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH MORE AT OUR EXPENSE?  I FIND THAT DISTURBING... I'LL BE THINKING ABOUT THAT IN NOV!!
Maybe we should let Egyptians vote in the American election.  They clearly understand the complexities of the presidency.  I mean, look at how good they've been at creating a strong economy and peaceful democracy where personal freedoms are protected and sustained.  
The fear of Obama winning this election has already started. the dow drops 10,000 points today on news of Obama's lead. Obamas only plan is not hidden anymore.
Destruction US has started

The beginging of the END for the US ! Thanks Obamanuts !
First off, America WAS once the country everyone looked up to.  Now after Bush/cheney, basically the Republicans, we have such a bad reputation.  Now is the time for change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's make it happen.  No more Bush, No more McCain, and definitely, NO MORE PALIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now maybe the US can see how their foreign policy has screwed up their standing in the world. The Israeli/Palestine conflict is not getting solved in part because of stubborn support for Israel by the US. Maybe Obama will bring some reason and tell Israel to start behaving nicely and not like a spoilt child.
Better question -- who would Egyptians rather have in charge of Egypt -- McCain or Mubarak?  The fact is, Egypt has not had a "Good Side" since Anwar Sadat -- and even then, it was only for the last couple years of his regime as Sadat was a dictator as well.  When Egypt gets is own house in order, then they can lecture the US about global stewardship -- or have the conveniently forgotten that Ayman al Zawahiri is Egyptian and head of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood?  In fact, the Egyptian population is a documented, well-known production system of radical Islamic jihad terrorists.
Do Americans really think that the desires or foreigners reflect their own best intrests?  Do they want what's best for America?  No, they wants what's best for them.  In some cases that means the defeat of America.  Don't kid yourself.
Dear Reality and Facts,

Could you be MORE biased toward your support for Obama??

Larry,

Dual citizenship is very much dependant on whether or not the persons country of origin allows that person to revoke his or her citizenship. The UK for instance, does allow people to disavow citizenship, but it is a lengthy process and most people elect not to enter into it. Ergo most British citizens in the USA become dual nationals.
It's very telling that when people say "See! the world wants Obama! And that's BAD!!" - they use the leap of logic that the world want Obama because they can "get away" with more...They leap to the conclusion that the rest of the world is out to get us - and we need to fight against them. It's time for you all to wake up and smell the reality. Most of the world want to live in peace - and most of the world is tied together in a world economy. They need us and we need them. They want Obama because the hope that he understands that if the US collapses due to reckless policies - they will all be worse off. (because they're feeling it now - thanks deregulators Bush & McCain)
The President of The United States is voted in by the American people to work for the American people. I for one do not want someone working for foreign people and other countries. That is why they have their own governments. It's time for the rest of the world to grow up, get a thick skin and stop being why baby cry babies.


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