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For Chinese, U.S. election is 'entertaining'

Posted: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:03 AM
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BEIJING – Last week, three books about Barack Obama were published in China – to little fanfare.

Despite being prominently displayed inside one of Beijing’s larger bookstores, the books – two were his own and the third was a collection of his speeches and writings – attracted little interest the day we visited.

The shop clerk said sales were "healthy" for a new release, but "The No. 1 Bodyguard in China," a biography of a former Chinese security guard, sitting next to "The Audacity of Hope," drew more curiosity. No books by John McCain were available; apparently his writings have yet to be translated into Chinese.

Image: Books about Barack Obama translated into Chinese.
Adrienne Mong / NBC News
Books about Barack Obama were just translated into Chinese.

"At the average person’s level in China, I’ve just found [the U.S. presidential election] to be less interesting than any other thing – the Olympics, the earthquake, other things going on in China that are of huge historical importance to China itself," observed James Fallows, who’s been based here for two years writing for The Atlantic Monthly.

Apart from the events he mentioned, there were also the winter storms that paralyzed half the country; the Tibet riots; torch relay protests; violence in Xinjiang; and now the melamine-tainted milk scandal. No surprise then that most Chinese have been focusing on domestic events.

But, as usual when it comes to China, it’s never that simple. As we talked to people about the American election, we found varying levels of interest and curiosity.

‘It’s just for fun’
"Many people pay attention to the election but with different motivations," said Professor Jin Canrong, Associate Dean at the School of International Studies. According to Jin, interest in China is broken down into three broad categories: official (government), intellectual (academics and policy analysts), and laobaixing (ordinary people).

"For intellectual communities, they want to learn something from the process and try to improve China’s approach of governance," said Jin. "But for the average people, especially young people, it’s just for fun."

"It’s entertaining for an outsider," agreed Li Xin, a young woman who edits an economic magazine. "That makes you want to watch and follow and see what’s going on next."

VIDEO: Chinese weigh in on the U.S. election

And while the government and think tanks have a sophisticated grasp of how the U.S. election campaign works, ordinary Chinese seem bewildered by the process. "I think the election process is quite complicated with all the rules of caucuses, primaries, and the general election," said Li.

Especially the election conclusion. One Chinese acquaintance told me he was stunned, when he first witnessed a presidential election after moving to the United States, to see a candidate concede defeat. "The only form of democracy we Chinese have ever seen really is what is in Taiwan," he said. "And that is completely different. The loser never just gives up."

Personality, not policy
"We noticed some differences in their policy towards China," said Jin. "For John McCain, he will pay more attention to [the] so-called military build-up of China, the religious freedoms, and Taiwan…. For Obama, we have some concern about the possible trade protectionism, some dispute around climate change, human rights, especially the human rights issue relating [to] Tibet."

But because the policy differences at this stage seem minute or elusive to most Chinese, they focus instead on the candidates’ personalities. "McCain, he’s a veteran, he’s very patriotic, and he’s 70. He’s got all this old stuff going on," said Annie Gong, a 20-year old college junior. "Obama, of course, he’s young, cute…but I think he’s kind of lacking in experience."

In general, young Chinese, however, seem drawn to the Illinois senator. "I think Obama is really exciting," said Li, who is 29. "He represents the fresh face of America. The typical American dream."

And in a country which counts 253 million people as internet users – more than in the United States – Obama’s internet savvy has been noted. "His team is very skillful in communicating with young people by the internet," observed Jin.

But for older Chinese, Obama’s race is a stumbling block. "I’ve been struck by how many high-level people in China are sort of thrown off their feet by the idea of a black person possibly as the president of the U.S.," said Fallows.

Racism isn’t enough to explain their reaction to Obama. Throughout the Cold War, the Chinese were fed a diet of anti-capitalist propaganda, a narrative that portrayed the U.S. political and economic system as corrupt and immoral. American capitalism, according to this viewpoint, was the root of its manifold social ills: inequality, sexual immorality, urban poverty, violence, and, especially, racism.

On Wednesday, one of our interns noticed that a translation of a U.S. article discussing how race could cost Obama votes was being widely circulated on some of China’s popular websites

The fact of Obama as a U.S. presidential candidate creates anxiety for this older generation of Chinese. "How is it possible that someone who grew up in that system can succeed?" a local Chinese journalist asked rhetorically."I think his success upsets those people’s world view – their understanding of what American society is."

U.S. - China relations
So far, the Chinese government has stayed mum on its preferences. The leadership in Beijing appears to favor neither candidate, but "If there were a huge debate over the future of Taiwan, huge U.S. debate over a military rivalry with China, it might be different," said Fallows.

Also, relations between Beijing and Washington have been on a stable course in recent years

"People tend to think, there will be no dramatic change in policy [with the incoming administration]," noted Jin.

But whoever ends up as the U.S. president, one thing remains clear to those living here: he will need to cooperate with the Chinese leadership. "There is such thoroughgoing connection that it just is fantasy that one can go without the other," said Fallows.

Ultimately, though, what is important to the Chinese is that America stays a true friend. "As a Chinese, I will be very happy if I saw one candidate say he [wants to] establish a very good contact with China," said Edmund Lu, a business school student. "But if he says he doesn’t like China or he supports Taiwan independence, I will feel very sad. I will not support him."

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That's Pretty Rich coming from a country that has been Ruled by the same party for six decades now, with a Criminal Record against it's own population that would make Pol Pot Look Like Donald Duck!

As soon as the Chinese can elect a non-Communist Government in power, I may have the Will to believe what is happening in the US is "Entertaining", untill then, the real "Entertainment", is within the Middle Kingdom itself.

Ciao
Yes I think the US election is getting like a soap opera. Lots of drama, cheating, name calling, and many affairs. One thing I noticed is the Republican cater to the rich which are few, compared to the Democrat that cater to the middle class which are many and can put serious money back into the system if the government will work for the middle class. The middle class puts money in all areas of the economy compared to the rich, which is few and select areas.
Racism is still a huge problem in America.  Where I'm from, blacks are still scapegoated and belittled, usually within groups of "understanding friends."  As a northern transplant to the South, I was not so understanding when I heard such comments said carelessly and, quite frankly, often.

Perhaps older generations of Chinese are suprised and confused because America is still extremely racist -- depending on what part of the country you're in.
We in the US are not finding this years elections very interesting either. It seems like both candidates (especially Obama) are spewing the same old "change" speach we hear every 4 years. If Obama want's to do away with the old "politics as usual" then he should start with this campaign message.
Glad we are entertaining China @@. Maybe they should focus not on our election, but on taking lead out of their toys, and poison out of their baby formula and pet food. I for one will never buy products made in China. We need to support our own manufacturers. If that means spending a little more for the product, so be it. It is worth it, in my opinion. I sincerely hope that the next president addresses the problem of unsafe products from China. We need to boycott them or have our own testing done on the items coming into our country.
It certainly must be amusing to any intelligent foreigner to listen to the posturings of a senile fraud in his attempt to persuade an ignorant electorate that he is a hero, an expert in military and international affairs and a worthy president of the greatest but most gullible country in history.
At least the Chinese want unity in the world.

Too bad we're all to glued to our TV's to worry about it.
What a load. This article implies that the Chinese people look to the US to for ideas on how to 'improvme China's approach to governance'. Hasn't it ever occured to anyone that the US electoral system is an outdated model from the colonial era which doesn't give anyone a voice? If the Chinese are looking abroad for tips on corporate governance they are looking to places like Japan, France or Australia where people actually have a voice in elections.
WHO cares about CHINA?  And, why would McCain have a book in Chinese?  This is America and about America.
If Obama has a book in Chinese...doesn't surprise me at all.  
He is a snake in the grass...and isn't a REAL American anyway...
It's interesting to see that China, a nation with one of the worst human rights reputations on the planet, maintains a rather stunted and narrow minded viewpoint of our election process and of our candidates. This is particularly true of the older generation of Chinese who seem to be takes aback over Senator Obama's rise to success.

Let's get one thing clear. Senator Obama is not running for the presidency of China (who would want to?). He is running for the presidency of the United States of America. Therefore, the opinions of the communist Chinese is highly immaterial and irrelevant in the grand scheme of our elections. Perhaps the Chinese Government should bring themselves to 21st century standards and focus more on overhauling its mining industry to prevent deadly mine related accidents. Moreover, when the Chinese Government learns to stop poisoning its local and international customers by not selling toys and food filled with toxins (in particular, adding melamine to milk to increase its protein content, but ultimately poisoning its children) they can have a say in our politics. Until then, the Chinese Government needs to mind its own business and stay out of our affairs.
We find the Chinese elections entertaining also.One candidate receiving 97% of the votes.Since there is no second candidate,where the heck did the other 3% go????
This is a wonderful article and a true explanation of how interdependent the global society really is.  I will say it for the candidates, I hope that U.S. relations with China remain close, cooperative and how dealings between the two countries continues to strengthen.  Wishing all those in China a great day.
in responce to the last paragraph, Taiwan should be able to vote for there independence, or has china gov. tried to talk with the gov. of Taiwan?
Let  Taiwan  be  Taiwan,  and  let  Tibet  be  Tibet! China  shold  first put  its  social atmosphere  in  order,  as well as the polluted  air!  And  don't  build  those  aircraft  carriers.  You  don't  need  them.  You  don't  need  to  upset  the  U.S.  with  them!
Oh, Chinese CAN'T be racists - only white men. How stupid! Asians are every bit as racist as whites (and blacks).

Gawd, these writers are stupid - lefties just can't come to terms weith the truth in anything they do.
although not a particularly satisfying article, it is a novel aproach to bringing a fresh perspective to the upcoming election.
Well--I guess simplistic thinking isn't limited to one country.  How can Obama succeed coming from "that system"?  He, like countless other Americans, was raised with the belief that he could do anything if he wanted it badly enough. This country has its problems, no doubt, but it provides hope--the one thing most countries fail to give its citizens.  We are damn lucky to have been born here.
I hope our next president is a president that is willing to reach out to other countries, and not bully them like Bush has done for the last 8 years....The American people want to be part of the world community!
For Obama, we have some concern about the possible trade protectionism, some dispute around climate change, human rights, especially the human rights issue relating [to] Tibet."
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She says it all in this comment.  They are terrified that Obama will make trade fair, that would screw China.  The republicans have been screwing us since free trade became the norm.  Obamam wants to change it.  McInsane thinks the trade issue is a non issue and is just fine with the fact that all of our manufacturing jobs went to china.  Let's ask some of those ppl without jobs.  Lets ask some of the ppl that used to work for the IRS, whose job is now occupied by someone in India, let's ask the auto worker who is jobless now, because some mexican is doing his job.  We need to throw out the illegal aliens, and stop trade with china.  We can bring this country right out of this DEPRESSION.
Whoever wins the election, I hope the first priority when it comes to China will be a strict reduction in the import laws. We need to rebalance the trade deficit with China and most especially clamp down on their flagrant violation of our laws regarding safety.
The Chinese and the rest of the world are getting a chance to see how money and media can buy and influence the Presidential election process. Our media has been so blatantly pro-Obama that the news media can no longer be trusted to present news to the American public in an unbiased manner. Tne old Soviet or Hitler propaganda machines would be proud.
The United States is China's biggest customer and it would be a better idea if people in China did not see our elections as "entertaining" but as impacting their economy in a very real way.  The policies of our government can and will have a dramatic effect on China in unforseen ways.
While they are laughing and being entertained, I wonder if they are laughing and being entertained over their own lack of concern for how their country is being run by corrupt officials who did nothing to stop thousands of babies from being poisoned by the very milk the corrupt communist government has their children drink.
"Quand la Chine s'eveillera le monde tremblera".  When China will awaken, the world will tremble was the book title of Alain Peyrefitte, a late French author, in 1974.  253 million internet users !  When in the early 60s China had a famine going on.  Now, the economy is growing and the more Chinese consume, Maltusan principles will be de rigeur, and the developing countries will be crowded out as not enough supply will be left to meet the demand.  Add to the fact that less arable land is available, affected by man's sprawl, erosion , climate change, increase in human population etc.  
I am going to start learning to speak Mandarin...
Yeah, right.
Let me translate this for you.
A black cannot be the President of the USA, a white country, just as a Japanese be the President of China.
There is not a word for "cute" in Chinese.
Sounds like an Americanized chinese, of bourgeois stock ....
This is the way it works in foreign countries:
First, you perform miracles, extremely good deeds, etc.,
Then, it goes through a rigorous set of research and proof, ant then, and only then,
You are declared a Saint or a Great Person.
In the US,it's the other way around.
That's why McCain is more respected because of his AGE and his ex-prisoner experience.
Viva Saritah!!!
Mr. Obama represents what our country states in our Declaration of Independance.  His nomination can aspire everyone from every corner of the world that all men are created equal and can have a voice and a position.  Mr. Obama gives America the opportunity to rebuild our relationships around the world and gives us a seat back at the global table.
Funny.
They rant about how Taiwan and Tibet is "THEIRS" yet ALSO rant and rave about how we should give back all the lands stolen from the Native Americans.

Must be great to so painfully and obviously support your own Imperialism and decry others for theirs.
Something about Feces and not stinking comes to mind.
Who cares what other countries think of our elections; it is none of there damn business.
Who really cares what the Chinese think about our Presidential Election.
"But if he doesn't like China or he supports Taiwan independence, I will feel very sad."

Edmund Lu, you are a bigot.  I could only wish that some superpower from beyond the stars decided to conquer China, then watch you try for independence only to have these aliens tell you it would make them sad, then deny you.
How nice that the Chinese find what's happening in America entertaining.  It will be interesting to see how entertaining they'll find it when it happens to their country.  It's just a matter of time
I have to agree with the comment that the US presidential elections are entertaining.  (They are entertaining to many Americans as well.)

The interesting times that Americans are experiencing with our economy and political system will be keeping American busy for a while.  I would like to hear the perspectives of truly wise individuals in China.  The long history of China has probably provided a few proverbs that might be helpful in understanding our current American debacle.

 
The U.S. has many problems but come on....China is way behind in most areas, for example polution, human rights, education. They do have the "advantage" when it comes to population and cheap labor. I would hope that they address the issues of their own, and I would hope that we here in the U.S. address our issues, mostly the economic crisis. Also as far as racism goes, the U.S. has a diverse population and I feel that progress is constantly being made. Obama is a good example. Do they have a non-Chinese leader in China?
I must admit, the racism thing from the older folks suprises me - especially for a people who are a serious minority everywhere else in the world, except China. Usually people affected by racism don't practice it themselves. But I also think the Chinese government has helped them come to their conclusions to prevent any interest in democracy over there. Which is what it is...I don't think their society would work in a democratic system at all, so their current government structure works for them.
For most Chinese making money is the no. 1 priority. From the poorest county
in the world, in 30 years China becomes no. 4 economic power house and with
3 trillion dollars in reserve. Thanks America for teaching capitalist. Who
cares who will be the next president of United States. Only money makes
people rich and a country powerful.
The election provides a gallows-type humor for Americans to. In having to decide WHICH of two EQUALLY DISTASTEFUL people would be likely to do THE LEAST harm to America over the next four years.

American desperately needs a better election system; one giving THE AMERICAN CITIZENS AND VOTERS the right to select from a decent size slate. Our current system favors not necessarily the BEST candidate, but the one with the deepest pockets (largest campaign warchest).

Another point which has many of us outraged: The near-certainty MILLIONS OF CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS, aided and abetted by Hispanic friends serving at voting points, will illegally cast votes for whoever they believe will be most helpful to their cause.
Who cares what China thinks. Their opinions have no bearing on the outcome of OUR election. And they think we're a joke, well at least we aren't using lead paint on our toys. If anything, China is the backward, joke of a nation.
Which Party will win the next election in China? Oh wait.......I think I can guess!
Excellent, enlightening article. Many of the "laobaixing" in the US should read this as many are not intellectually curious. This effects the elections (and lends some of that confusion Chinese observers see). I am an American Indian and member of a large tribe. Because of this, I am very conscious of the importance of Obama's candidacy. It is empowering to see a powerful minority person with a real opportunity to become the president. America has faults in its racist treatment of minorities and in other behaviors and policies, but this election is a great example of its good side.
Refreshing.  Some folks here make like the outcome of this campaign could be the end of the world.  Just not true.  It is obvious now that the Republicans would be less able to govern and would likely lead to a further decline in the United States.  To many in the world that would be just fine.
It must be interesting for the Chinese to view American elections as they never heard of FREE elections.
WHY SHOULD WE CARE WHAT CHINA HAS TO SAY, ALL THEY DO IS REPRESS THEIR PEOPLE AND THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN HUMAN RIGHTS, THEY WOULD RATHER KILL THE PEOPLE IN TIBET THAN FREE, THEY WANT THE WORLD TO SEE THEM AS GOOD PEOPLE BUT THEY ARE NOT, IT IS BAD ENOUGHT AHT WE HAD A STUPID REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT, NAMELY BUSH WHO SOL OUR COUNTRY TO THE CHINESE, BECAUSE OF NIXON WE HAVE LOST SO MANY JOBS IT IS PATHETIC, AND YET WE STILL ALLOW THEIR PEOPLE TO COME TO THE UNITED STATES AND THEY HAVE ALSO TAKEN OVER HERE BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT ALLOWS THEM TO BUY UP EVERYTHING AND MONOPOLIZE ALL OF THE BUSINESSES, THAT IS WHY OUR ECONOMY IS IN THE WORST STATE IT HAS EVERN BEEN SINCE THE DEPRESSION OF THE 30'S, THE UNITED STATES SHOULD TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY AND GET ALL OF THESE F............CHINESE OUT OF HERE, THAT IS WHY THE HOUSING MARKET IS ALSO IN A SHAMBLES BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT ALLOWED THEM TO COME IN HERE AND BUY EVERYTHING IN CASH..................
I can understand why the election process would be bewildering to people living in China.  If I were living in China, what I would find most puzzling would be the electoral college.
Cool article, but you're forgetting that the Chinese government doesn't allow its people to actually have opinions.

*The more you know*
I think it's amusing that a nation of beings like China, can mimic civilized behavior ( Olympics presentation for example) yet they can continue to be barbaric, uncivilized and a threat to humanity by the sheer volume of their "robot-minded" state run mentality.  It is amazing they are allowed to be "amused" by anything, or maybe the State said it's O.K.  Let's buy more milk products produced by these idiots.
Americans are smart enough to know that they elected a democractly controlled House and Senate, two years ago and have since thne seen absolutely nothing done that the dems promised. Like ending the war in Iraq. No instead they wasted valuable time chasing after baseball stars. This do nothing congress has had 2 years to make SOME progress but instead we will see Barack Obama elected President and we will see the same old (JOE BIDEN) boys and Girls waste another two years. Our government and our economy are near total collapse and the sheeple better wake up fast and take back our government and economy from the left wing and right wing NUTS!! Vote for anybody..even NADER is better than OBAMA or McCain. Vote all of them out of office and replace them. NO MORE TWO PARTY SYSTEM, it was designed to keep the American sheeple at odds with each other so the politicians, left and right can steal our government and spend OUR money. Get a clue before it is over and the world buys up the left overs of a once great nation.  
To the man below who said America is extremely racist, I must say this.  Yes, America is filled with racism however the racism in China is even more strong.  I mean lets be honest with one another.  Everyone in China is homogenous, the Han Chinese have exterminated other ethnic groups so we should all be honest about our cultures.  All cultures have racist qualities due to the natural tribal nature that humans cannot escape.
The logjam that has the two-party system at a stalemate must show to the world that due to partisan politics whereby elected officials seem more concerned about saving their own political necks than actually DOING SOMETHING for once, for the people that put them in the position to do so...well, it must seem pretty sad to the rest of the world that we've managed to put a bunch of self-centered, clueless dingbats in charge of what soon will become NOT the greatest country on this planet.
I dont think that it is meant as a slight to our political system when they say that the average person is entertained by our politics.  Im entertained by this election, and Im American.  Its been crazy this go round, even more so than the last two, and we arent even close to being done.  
China is the number one reason we have the problems we do in the United states, GREED let me say it again GREED.  Everyone wants to get paid and dont think about the future impact on our society.  The are waging a war against us with out even firing a shot.  Once we finally reach our low point they will team up with Russia and their Communist buddies (whoops did I call Russia communist) We as a nation are stupid for not paying any attention to this, it like cheese to a mouse.  And for Obama WAKE UP PEOPLE he's a socialist.  The writing is on the wall, his wife was never proud to be a American untill now, I t bet that would not go over in any other country except ours.  We are fools to let this man rule the free world, you think things are bad now just wait, Obama will take money out of your pocket and give to someone who does not want to work because they have that warm and fuzzy feeling that America will take car of them at the cost of the working man. Eventally or socail systems will fail because there will be more people and illegal aileins here draing everything or fore fathers have fought for.  And no I am not an angry American, I just know what capitalism is and what socialisim is and that's where we are headed.  Obama and John McCain are fools.  What happened the Pratiotism.  We need a real Person to run that can see this, are fore fathers are rolling in there graves, about how we are destroying our country and selling it off to foreigners.

A proud American


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