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Holocaust heroine recalled by two she saved

Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:03 AM
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WARSAW, Poland – Elzbieta Ficowska leaned forward to place red roses on a new grave in Warsaw’s Powawazki Cemetery. The 66-year-old woman also lit two votive candles.

They were in memory of Irena Sendler, the person to whom she owes her very existence.

Elzbieta Ficowska
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Elzbieta Ficowska places flowers on the grave of Irena Sendler at a cemetary in Warsaw, Poland.

Sendler, a Roman Catholic social worker, risked her life and survived torture to help save thousands of Jews after the 1939 German invasion of Poland. Sendler, who died earlier this year at the age of 98, led a group of 30 volunteers, the majority of them women, who managed to smuggle 2,500 Jewish children out of the Warsaw ghetto and gave them false identities.

'A truly heroic act'
Ficowska was spirited out of the ghetto in a wooden carpenter’s box when she was just six months old. Hidden on a truck beneath a pile of bricks – arranged to allow air to reach her – she had been drugged to prevent her from crying. With her in the box was a silver spoon engraved with her name and date of birth, probably put there by the mother she never knew.

"It was a truly heroic act for my mother to give away her baby with no guarantee it would survive," Ficowska said. "That was the painful decision my mother made." She did so because thousands of Jews were being sent each day to the gas chambers at Treblinka and other death camps in occupied Poland.

The infant girl was brought to Stanislawa Bussoldowa, a Roman Catholic midwife who also delivered the babies of Jewish women in hiding. Bussoldowa, a member of Sendler’s clandestine network, adopted Ficowska and raised her as a Catholic.

The only physical trace of Ficowska’s rescue is the spoon, which she keeps in a dark-blue velvet box on her mantle piece next to a photograph of her late husband, Jerzy, a poet.

But there are other reminders, she says, one of which is her life-long fear of close spaces. "That’s why I think I’m so claustrophobic," she said, reflecting on having been hidden in the wooden box. "I’m always opening windows and doors wherever I go."

Irena Sendler
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Irena Sendler, seen in her nursing home in Warsaw, Poland in 2005.

Two mothers
Like many of her contemporaries, Ficowska is still grappling with the emotional scars of having lived through the Holocaust and the uncertainty it left in its wake.

Interviewed recently in her spacious apartment in Warsaw, Ficowska, an imposing woman with sharply-defined features and neatly-coiffed dark-reddish hair, spoke slowly and haltingly, searching her memory. She had two mothers, she said: her Jewish mother and the Catholic mother who loved her so much that she didn’t want to admit the little girl with curly hair was not really her daughter.

"My Jewish mother gave me my life and my Polish mother saved that life," Ficowska said. "But when I say ‘Mommy’ I am talking about the mother who raised me, not that I will ever forget the mother who brought me into this world."

Ficowska now seeks to help those less fortunate than herself. She is one of the founders of Children of the Holocaust, an international organization that assists survivors. Many of its members were raised without love, often in orphanages, and face old age alone, tormented by their traumatic childhood. Many of these survivors share their feelings in group therapy sessions.

The biggest shock for many who were adopted is to discover late in life that the parents who raised them were not their birth parents. "They learn that their birth parents were Jews, and that they were murdered in the Holocaust," Ficowska explained. "Sometimes Christian parents, just before they die, tell their children they were born Jewish."

Ficowska herself was devastated when told that both her parents were Jewish and had perished in the Holocaust. She was 17 when her adoptive mother confirmed rumors about Elzbieta’s true identity and showed her the silver spoon. In fact, she was so deeply troubled by this revelation that she ran away from home.

Desperate to learn what being Jewish would mean to her life, she sought the opinion of a prominent Jew in Warsaw. "Forget you learned you are Jewish," he told her. "This kind of discovery never made anyone happy." She took his advice and is now comfortable as a Catholic.

Professor Michael Glowinski
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Professor Michael Glowinski in his Warsaw apartment.

'She saved my mother’s life'
Another survivor saved by Sendler’s heroic acts took a different path.

Professor Michal Glowinski, 74, always knew he was Jewish. When he was eight, he was taken out of the ghetto with his parents by a German soldier who had been bribed.

He recalls his childhood with intense clarity. "The color of the ghetto is the color of the paper that covered the corpses lying on the street before they were taken away," he wrote in his memoir, "Black Seasons." The book is a blend of two voices – that of Glowinski as a young child and as an adult.

We recently spoke in his narrow living room, the shelves crammed with books and scholarly journals. A professor of literature at the Polish Academy of Sciences in Warsaw, he described with animation how he and his mother pursued a tortuous escape route to avoid capture by the Gestapo.

Sendler eventually found his mother a job as a maid, using forged identity papers. "She saved my mother’s life," Glowinski said. At the same time, Zegota, the umbrella organization of Sendler’s underground railroad, arranged for him to be placed in an orphanage in eastern Poland where he was protected by impoverished nuns. Glowinski’s father, meanwhile, found work as a day laborer, part of a deliberate plan to separate the family in hope of improving their individual chances of survival.

‘Dominant element of my life’
In the orphanage, Glowinski said, he shut out the world that had existed before, never expecting his family to be reunited. He prepared himself only for bad news.

"I had grown deadened and indifferent," he wrote in his memoir. As a result, he did not rejoice when his mother came for him suddenly in February of 1945. His father also survived the war, and the whole family was reunited later that year. Glowinski revived the love for his parents he had smothered as a defense mechanism during the war and even dedicated his memoir, "Black Seasons," to his mother and father.

But, his experience during the Holocaust still affects him deeply.

"If one spends his life in the ghetto and then hiding, locked in a closet or in a stack of potatoes, his whole life is marked by that experience," he said. "It is the dominant element of my life that puts everything else in perspective. The childhood trauma remains the most important element of my biography."

Glowinski and Ficowska are just two of the thousands of Jews who are the beneficiaries of Sendler’s heroism. Her far-reaching legacy extends to today’s children.

"If she didn’t save you," Ficowska’s 10-year-old grandson, Karol, told his grandmother, "my mother would not be here, and I wouldn’t be here either."

Don Snyder was a longtime NBC News Producer who is now retired and is a freelance writer.

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It can nhappen again - and there is a man from Iran who wants it too. Rather than take the heros' route and build up his country, he is taking the cowardly road to averting the focus to others, to Israel, to the U.S. and hatred. Let us all pray that he is taken down shortly - together with Putin and Assad!
For all of those interested in Irena's story, please check out "Life in a Jar."  This play was written by a few teenagers in a small town in Kansas in 1999.  They researched Irena as part of a school project.  Their play has been performed internationally and continues to be staged throughout the US.  These young people were fortunate enough to get to meet Irena and perform the play for her.  This whole event is one of the most touching moments I've had the pleasure of witnessing, albeit second-hand.
A truly moving story of valour and courage in the face of certain death.  One of thousands of God's heroes he embodied to practice what they believed.  A Nobel Prize for Man's recognition would only be befitting.  However, Irena kept her eyes on the greater prize in both her professional and clansetine efforts.

Randy from Phoenix, there are many instances where a church does not openly oppose wrong-doing.  But if you read your Bible, you will find that the fight is not about the same opposition in which we think of war.  To say there were not open letters of opposition from many faith fronts is disappointing but to generalize is just as bad.  We are told that few will persevere tribulations and he gifts those he choses for special tasks.  Be one of the faithful that prays you will be guided on doing God's work and his hand to be against those that have a mind to repeat these atrosities.

The Jewish Rabbi or scholar that gave Elzbieta Ficowska the sage advice to accept her spiritual roots should also be applauded.  He truly understood that God cannot be restricted to any one faith.

Excellent story and a testiment that scars of any war can be long-lasting and in need of help.  Most of all, it is a testiment of seemingly ordinary people doing extrodinary feats in a humble and unselflish way.
Lest we forget:
In Germany they first came for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me —
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
In hard times, there will always be people who will "Do the right thing" even risking their own lives if necessary.    The question is "What will you do today to help someone less fortunate than you?"
I lost members of my family in the Holocaust. This event - oftentimes referred by Jews as the Shoah - has cast a very long shadow over my life. Irena Sendler was one of the many "Righteous Christians" who risked their lives to save the lives of their Jewish neighbors and friends. As Jesus once said, there is no act greater than a person who is willing to lay down their lives for their friends. Irena Sendler was placed into a very awful situation, and she did what God wished her to do. We must never forget what happened, since history has a way of repeating itself - over and over again. Evil is a very real force in this world and we must do everything we can to defeat it.
All of the comments are thoughtful and worthy.  Good people doing extraordinary acts should be prominently recognized.  The fourth estate would do well to note the thirst that MANY people have for such information.  Not all of us are attracted to celebrity glorification or sensationalism.
Irena Sendler is a true hero. She took the ultimate risk to save the lives of innocents.

It gives me hope that human beings can care for one another regardless of differences in faith or ethnicity. Our country seems to be so divided by self-righteous anger these days, culture wars intentionally started to divide black from white, Christian from gentile, urban from rural. God Bless Irena for reminding us that beneath the skin, we are all human.
God does wonders through people like Sendler. It is to remind us all that one should stand up against cruelty and tyrany at all costs. Thank you Miss Sendler for youe selfless service to humanity. Thank you.
This is such an emotional story. Truly the story of a saint. However, to readers/writers - please do not politicize the story. It is a beautiful story and Irena Sendler should be honored but not used to score political points. Whatever your religion or belief is, lets celebrate the life of a courageous woman and not use it to score political points.
All who worked to save the Jewish people from the Nazi horror are forever heroes.They risked their own lives to save others because they believed that when good people stand by and do nothing in the face of evil,that evil then triumphs.We could all learn lessons from these beautiful souls.
This is an incredible story.  But imagine how different our world history could have been if another country had taken action in 1936 and stopped Hitler from becoming a world menace.  And yet, even today, people deride president Bush for doing exactly that - stepping in and stopping a self-proclaimed dictator (Sadaam) when he attached and conquered a neighboring country...  Thank God for President Bush and the USA, for stopping another "would-be" Hitler...
I don't know why, but since having learned of the holocaust over 60 years ago now, sadness and tears still well up inside of me, when I read these stories of horrific loss and heroism.  
We Must remember the Holocaust. We must NEVER let this happen again.  Irena Sendler is a saint.  She showed true courage in the face of Death.  She is a HERO!!!!
Thank you for this beautiful story. It was the most important and moving thing that has happened to me all day.
Hey Jules from Albany: Al Gore WAS a driving force behind the internet but NEVER claimed to have "invented" it.
Educate yourself and quit believing ignorant Republican propaganda!
How did she get away with it?  It makes you think there was an element of protection (human) that she didn't tell about or know about. I know I would never be so brave. I am even  afraid at security check-in at the airport.
Thanks for the story of such heroism.  It hopefully will inspire others to do the same in the face of difficulities.  Thanks for getting it out!
Irena took a chance on life while other took life's chances away! Never forget Irena and so many others like her during such bad times then.  God Bless Irena!.
Thank you for publishing this important and compelling story.
I recently came back from Poland.  I saw first hand the camps and the horrible things that the Nazi's did to anyone they didnt like.  For a woman to stand up against the Nazi regime, is a truly amazing story and to have saved so many innocent children is truly great.  My heart goes out to her and everyone else who was affected by the Holocaust.  I will always have a lasting image in my mind of what I saw and read.  And to think, this only happened a little over 60 years ago.
Courageous action comes in many forms and from people who may not at first appear heroic.  Sendler was a true living super heroine.
This makes me cry to think of the horrors that people could do such things to each other. But the human spirit still survives and there is good living some people. What inspiration. I wonder if I could have been so brave.
This woman is among those known as the "Righteous" and is an inspiration to all of us not to stand by idly when we see wrong doing.  This should be our natural state, but unfortunately this world is imperfect.  Irene is only one hero and I am sure there are many others whose stories will never be known or told.  One of the previous comments talked about the priests who stood by or aided the Nazis.  I would like to share the story of one who did not Maximillan Kolbe who was a very learned man with a doctorate in philosophy.  

During the Second World War Maximillan Kolbe provided shelter to refugees from Greater Poland, including 2,000 Jews whom he hid from Nazi persecution in his friary in Niepokalanów. He was also active as a radio amateur, with Polish call letters SP3RN, vilifying Nazi activities through his reports.

On February 17, 1941 he was arrested by the German Gestapo and imprisoned in the Pawiak prison, and on May 25 was transferred to Auschwitz as prisoner #16670.

In July 1941 a man from Kolbe's barracks vanished, prompting SS-Hauptsturmführer Karl Fritzsch, the deputy camp commander, to pick 10 men from the same barracks to be starved to death in Block 13 (notorious for torture), in order to deter further escape attempts. (The man who had disappeared was later found drowned in the camp latrine). One of the selected men, Franciszek Gajowniczek, cried out, lamenting his family, and Kolbe volunteered to take his place.

During the time in the cell he led the men in songs and prayer. After three weeks of dehydration and starvation, only Kolbe and three others were still alive. Father Maximilian's death was heroic. He did not whine, nor murmur. He encouraged others that they would soon be with Mary in heaven. And each time the guards checked on him he was standing or kneeling in the middle of the cell and looking calmly at those who entered, while the others laid moaning and complaining, on the ground around him. Finally he was murdered with an injection of carbolic acid.  Some who were present at the injection say that he raised his left arm and calmly waited for the injection. He died soon after.

Father Kolbe was beatified as a confessor by Pope Paul VI in 1971 and was canonized by Pope John Paul II on October 10, 1982 in the presence of Franciszek Gajowniczek the man he saved. Upon canonization, the Pope declared St. Maximilian Kolbe not a confessor, but a martyr.

These are the real heroes.  May God grant all of us the peace and courage to act when we are called to do so.




We live in a cynical world of greed and a "Me" generation. Little do we hear of such heroic acts of kindness and goodness. People need to be made more aware of the inhuman acts that took place during the Holocaust and the undying commitment to human life (with little or no regard for their own lives), of the brave people who tried to help a mass of millions. Oskar Schindler was another of these individuals. Everyone should visit the Holocaust museums around our country;look at the horror of the photographs taken of mass graves;listen to the stories of the Jewish people whose loved ones died in gas chambers or were tortured; view the striped clothing with Jewish Stars of David pinned to them; see the tattoo numbers on their arms, the collection of shoes and personal belongings heaped up in piles; or lamp shades made of human skin. If all of this is not enough to make you sit down and cry or be ashamed of these transgressions, you need to search your soul and ask God to forgive you. Irena Sendler in my opinion is ranked up there with Mother Theresa. Surely she was an angel sent by God in a time of need to save as many lives as she could. Such a humble person, that it took her death to bring to light the magnificent miracles she accomplished in her own lifetime. May God bless her in heaven and give her lasting peace. I am not Jewish, but a Christian who believes that Life is the most precious gift on earth.
Amen to all of the above!  Now that you understand the threat, now is not the time to set back and be complacent.  Now is the time (to burrow the words of Abe Lincoln) "let us here be dedicated so that these heroic people will not have died in vane".  Dedicate your self/life to building bridges between people, not walls.  Find a good volunteer org that is doing that.
I'm not a Republican.
I'm not an anti-environmentalist crusader.
I believe global warming is real.

But.

Al Gore should not have won the Nobel Prize over this woman.  He made a movie.  He made some speeches.  He raised awareness.  This woman was tortured and hunted by Nazis and saved children.  She was a HUMANitarian.

And, this may make me sound like one of those things I claim not to be, but I believe the "style" and "brand" of environmentalism that Al Gore represents is a fad.  True environmentalism is an important scientific endeavor, but Al Gore is a trend.
Incredible and mind shaking story of this brave woman whom one can easily say a righteous, heavenly figure. Indeed her place is at a lofty point and must be enjoying a peaceful rest in paradise. What a piece of humanity! May God Almighty rest here soul in paradise and reward her loved ones who are alive, and here coming generations too, for this great deed.
This story truly inspires me.  I will never forget the love and dedication of Irena Sendler.
I spent a week in Munich Germany this summer. I had the honor of visiting Dachau. The feeling I had while walking through the gate and walking on the very ground that so many people died and were humiliated on was my small attempt to say Yes this happened and you have not been forgotten. God Bless Ms Sendler and may she continue to be a spokes person for the people who have died and may her story inspire US as a nation to fight the fight for as long as we need.
I read most of the story and couldn't bear to read the rest of it.  It sadden me and brought tears to my eyes. It seems everytime i turn around there is a holocaust happening in this world.  There is too many evil men in his world.
I'm "addicted" to WWII and the tragedies of it. To hear a story like this is not only moving, but uplifting. I am part Jewish and German-I had family on both sides. I don't know how I would have handled the same situation, but to know there were, and I believe still are, people in this world like this woman makes me proud to be alive.

To this woman and to the people fighting for what they believe in, and for the people supporting them.
God Speed.
this statement:  "If one spends his life in the ghetto and then hiding, locked in a closet or in a stack of potatoes, his whole life is marked by that experience," he said. "It is the dominant element of my life that puts everything else in perspective. The childhood trauma remains the most important element of my biography."

Shall mark me, imagine living your life like that and then having to try and live a normal life on the outside.

while it is true that many of the Catholic faith stood idly by or aided in the inhuman atrocities of the holocast, so did most Protestants, and those of many other religious or political persuasion.  We, in the U.S.,certainly have no reprieve from the "critical eye" of history in this sorry period of of the 20th century.  One would hope that there were many more like Irena Sendler in the world today that would make such a life/death choice for others.  I do wonder, though, when we look around us at the world of "me first" and the often-seen attitude of disinterest or boredome with the struggles of life that a majority of people live with all around us.  There will be more of these "holocausts" in our new century, as in centuries past, some as awful or more so in their time and place.  Goodness and evil seem to be twin images of the human personality.  Evil is only magnified by those who institutionalize the process of seperating the "good", "worthy", or "gifted" persons from the presumably less worthy, good, or gifted populations of the earth.  Do we still do that today, in our own country of liberty, freedom, "tolerance".  Of course.  There may not have been enough Irena's available to those in desperate circumstances during WWII, certainly not in Germany and the occupied countries, but also in most of the world at that time, including here.  What will we witness when this type of "human disease" of the human condition comes to our individual attention.  Someone, earlier, had it right when they said there were many unsung heroes of the holocaust who paid the full measure, and sometimes their entire familie's existence, for their efforts to give assistance to those singled out for "cleansing/extermination" for the "greater good", as it was then termed.  One will never know them by name, but hopefully a just God will hold them close and remember their names in the book of life.  Let's pledge our time and lives to their memory and the courage they showed when it meant the most.  They deserve that at least, as our thanks.  I doubt whether Nobel prizes would mean as much to them, even if so recognized, as our attention to those principles of love, trust, and a faith in something better outside themselves that they demonstrated by their lives.  Let's give them that "prize" for their sacrifice and courage.  Forget the Nobel prize, they deserve much more from us than that!  
As a young girl, a family friend was saved from death by being snuck across a border in a sack on someone's back.  The rest of her family remained behind and perished.  Perhaps it was even Irena Sendler (she was very young a doesn't remember who it was).  Irenea deserves nothing but honor and recognition for her stunning acts of bravery and humanity.

However, will the people whining about the Nobel Peace Prize please give it a rest?  The Nobel Committee decides who wins its various prizes based on its own criteria and its own judgement.  If you don't like who they picked, create your own darn prize.
An act of courage by a little lady, who knew the difference between right and wrong. Could any of us reading her story, have done as much? G-d rest her soul.
i have heard people ask, "Where was G_d during the Holocaust?" to defend their atheism.  I point them to people like this brave lady and numerous others like her who were willing to risk their lives to save fellow human beings.  Just like there is a Hall of the Righteous at the Washington, D. C. Holocaust Museum there is probably a Hall of Heroes in Heaven for them.   We are commanded to defend those who cannot defend themselves - the widows, the fatherless, etc..  It is our moral obligation, therefore, to defend the most helpless of all - the unborn.  We can all be heroes in their eyes.  
I will try to be blunt but nice.We as the world do need to remember this is school,But to keep making a big deal still to this day does not help progress life.You make more problems to keep it out there in your face and not realize its over and done let the history stay history.The past is in the past lets deal with the future
It is a wonderful story, I wonder how many more stories just like hers are still out there just waiting for someone to tell them. We should honor these people before the pass away not just after. I thank the Good Lord for having smiled on her and for creating such a wonderful angel.
Wow! I have new hero now!  Irena Sendler was not only a brave saint, she was also very strong and must
have been very intelligent and persuasive!  I can't help but wonder how she did it all!  She managed to gather many volunteers, obtained false identities, found jobs and places for so many!  She saved so many!  Just think of all of the people who are here today because of her!  

I can't even fathom how frightening and horrible the Holocaust was!  

Kudos to one of the greatest women who ever lived!    
We need to hear about this lady, Schindler and the other hundreds of people who helped Jews and others survive the Nazis.  We need to be reminded that there are always a few who do what is right.  We need to hear it so we can do the same thing regardless of how small or inconsequential it is.
Emotional and amazing story!
What is really sad, is that the holocaust has essentially dominated the WWII era making the sacrifices of so many other peoples including our American soldiers almost a footnote to the holocaust industry used by international Jewry to extort many from countries and individual corporations throughout Europe. This story is touching on an emotional, individual level but it doesn't shed light on the many lies and distortions by the Jews concerning the so-called holocaust unfortunately.
You can't blame the Catholic Church- look at what Pius XII did both before and during.  My grandmother lived in occupied Rome during the war- and they hid a jewish man in their apartment- and she owes her survival to all the efforts of the Catholic Church during that time.  Bless them.
It amazes me that the majority of a cizilized country like Germany was in the  1930s could allow these things to happen in the first place.
I was born in Germany in 1942, and whenever I read a story like this, I cry and cry and cry.  I am 66 years old now, living in America, and my memories about the that terrible war "become alive" when I read the stories about the Holocaust. As a grandmother of 8, I want to write a book for them, so we never forget.... Children in War..!!  
"Those who have lost the most in war are also the ones who have the most to gain by putting aside feelings of revenge, going beyond our own cocoon, learning to forgive and making peace with our own painful past"
Given the enormity of the crimes committed by the Third Reich, it may be difficult for some readers to muster sympathy for the suffering of the German children. But it serves to remind us of the basic humanity that must continue to link us.
wow...god bless her.
Irena Sendler!  Aloaf of bread for all humanity.
This remarkable story is about a woman who was so far beyond the many petty things we think are so important now.  She didn't do these things for a Nobel Prize later.  That's like people now who "volunteer" to help others just to get an award.  She didn't do these things to spite everyone else who was trying to survive so we could look back at that age and pass blame over and over again on those who "allowed" this to happen.  SHE did these things because people were dying and she couldn't let that happen.  She made the choice to help.  End of story.  Let us celebrate this woman and the many others who could not let people die around them and let us do so without comparing them to unimportant modern issues/people or past mistakes by other people.  We all are human, we all make mistakes and misjudge, and we'd all do better to strive to be more like this woman.
The Holocaust is the single most atrocious event in  the history of the human race. It boggles my imagination everytime I try to think about it. Was this really "real"? Or was it an evil figment of my mind? I feel I might just wake up and discover it is just a stupid dream....that man cannot be so evil...so heartlessly cruel towards his fellow human ! Oh God how I wish it is not true...I just cant believe this! !My heart goes out to Irena Sendler..God Bless You!!!


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