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Mexican drug war 'alarming' U.S. officials

Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:55 AM
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MEXICO CITY – Virtually every day now there are disturbing headlines here about the assassination of yet another Mexican official, gangland-style shootouts in broad daylight, the gruesome discoveries of kidnapped and tortured murder victims – many of them beheaded – and police chiefs quitting their jobs and fleeing the country in terror.

Since Mexican President Felipe Calderon vowed a year and a half ago to confront the drug cartels and take back vast areas of the country that these powerful criminals have controlled for years, more than 4,000 people have been killed. The murder victims include some 500 police officers, soldiers, mayors and other officials. 

As the government pushes into cartel territory, the traffickers fight back while at the same time killing each other in internal battles over the remaining turf and smuggling routes – most of this occurring just south of the U.S. border.

VIDEO: Mexico's drug war crosses the border

Borrowing a page from Colombian President Alvaro Uribe's playbook for fighting traffickers and guerrillas, Calderon has deployed 25,000 army troops and federal police forces around Mexico.   

Their primary mission is to regain control, establish peace, rebuild judicial institutions and try to reign in some of the endemic corruption infecting local police departments. 

The jury is still out on whether any of that has been accomplished yet. But the current Mexican government is certainly trying and is paying a horrible price in human lives. Even Mexico's National Police Chief Edgar Millan was murdered in a hail of bullets inside the protective walls of a Mexico City home.

 "We have no choice, there is no alternative here," Mexico's Attorney General Eduardo Medina Mora said, defending the government's crackdown. "If we want to build a sound democracy, a country with a rule of law with liberties, we have to do this and we will."

American officials watch nervously
In the American Southwest particularly, the Mexican drug war is drawing the attention of senators, governors, federal law enforcement officials and sheriff's departments. The White House is also on alert and is urging Congress to approve a $1.4 billion law enforcement aid package for Mexico.

Former U.S. drug czar Barry McCaffrey, a retired U.S. Army general, insists the United States has a lot at stake and must help the Mexican government win this battle.

"The Mexican president, Calderon, is an honest man, a courageous patriot," McCaffrey said.  "If Mexican authorities don't re-establish control in the six [Mexican] border states along the 2,000 mile-long border, we will see this level of violence, corruption, kidnapping, drug organizations on this side of the frontier."

Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison agrees and argues the violence has already spread north. "It's just a pathetic and terrible situation," Hutchison said. "Our Border Patrol agents have seen hundreds of attacks from across the border. These drug cartels have put bounties on DEA agents' heads on our side."

Americans finance Mexican traffickers
In seeking more help from the United States, Mexican officials point out that most of the financing for the Mexican traffickers comes from the American users of cocaine, marijuana, methamphetamine and heroin smuggled across the border.

U.S. law enforcement officials estimate that $12 to 15 billion a year flows from the United States to the Mexican traffickers. And that is just the bulk currency amount, actual dollar bills, and doesn't include all the money sent by wire transfers.

"In that sense, the U.S. is already financing this war. It is just financing it on the wrong side," Attorney General Medina Mora said grimly.

Another problem is that most of the weapons used by the traffickers come from the United States. Typically, the drug smugglers have much more firepower than local police departments, and sometimes can even outgun the federal police and the Army with high-caliber machine-guns and grenade launchers.

"Most of the weapons, I would say around 95 percent of the weapons that we have seized, come from the U.S.," said Mora. "If the U.S. would stop the flow of weapons to Mexico the equation would change very rapidly here. We need the U.S. to stay committed in this war in reducing demand, in stopping the flow of weapons and stopping the flow of cash."

Mexican traffickers throughout the U.S. 
Another trend that is particularly disturbing to federal drug agents and local authorities is the widespread entrenchment of Mexican smuggling organizations within the United States, and not just along the border area.

In fact, agents say, Mexican smuggling groups have taken over drug distribution operations in U.S. cities from coast to coast. Atlanta is now considered a major Mexican drug-smuggling hub. In Chicago, Mexicans have pushed out local drug dealers and are handling the illicit business themselves. Even in rural Tennessee, sheriff's deputies are faced with more and more criminals speaking Spanish, a language most of the officers can't understand.

While declaring that the cooperation between U.S. and Mexican law enforcement officials is at its "best level ever," Mora urged the U.S. Congress to pass the Merida Initiative, the Mexico law enforcement aid package. While the money is important, he argued, the critical component is the commitment it would represent in terms of U.S. assistance in the drug war.

"I have said to my American counterparts that this war cannot be won by neither one of us alone," Mora added.  "If we do not win it together, we will lose it together."

In that argument, the Mexican attorney general is finding U.S. supporters, despite the many detractors who condemn Mexico for its drug-related woes and blame past governments there for allowing the problem to grow out of control.

"We have to be helpful to them, this is not now a thousand miles away. It is right on the border of America and we have to stop it," said Sen. Hutchison.

The former U.S. drug czar, McCaffrey, agreed. "This is the most alarming situation I've seen in Mexico in 15 years," he warned. "Our own interests are at stake. We must stand with these people, they're literally fighting for their lives."

Read more of Mark Potter's reporting on U.S. concerns over the Mexican drug war: 
Border officials fear growing Mexican drug war
Why educate American kids from Mexico?

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Brian,

YOU are the main problem in this fight.  I am not a weed head nor do i agree with the legalization of all drugs, BUT I do have a brain and I can see that all of these posts above are very much so the way that our country needs to handle pot.  If you legalize it and tax it you will take some of the money away from the drug lords and that is a start.  The only thing weed can hurt is....well... I can't think of anything.  Take the power away from the drug lords and let us make our own choices in regards to the use of it.  Alcohol is worse in my mind than weed and you just had your fith drink of the day and it is only noon......  please dont vote this year!  America needs an open mind and so do you!  

The youth of America.  Its is our future!

There is fault on both Mexico and America. It is definite that it will take both countries to eliminate these problems. Mexico first off needs to step up and gain control back in their country. America needs enforce and make higher consequences for these types of crimes. We need not to compromise and legalize drugs. They're illegal and should stay that way.
legalize and tax. that would cut it by atleast half it not more. And quit blaming the NRA and the republicans for the people that use guns for crime. even if you made owning a gun illegal then the only people that will have guns are the criminals.
LETS HIRE BLACKWATER TO HELP GUARD OUR BORDER!

THEY ARE THE PERFECT TEAM FOR THE JOB.
maybe we are looking at the wrong border.. hello canada, the swiss cheese of borders,, in other words you can walk back and forth from u.s. to canada and back. sure shoot some people in the southwest while billions of drugs come from canada. there is nothing stopping them from flying over the u.s. to canada and drop their loads up there and then bring it in.. oh no canadians are the cream of the crop of the world they would never do that to the u.s. remember all countries hate us and yes canada is a country, in case you all forgot your geography. so let's seal up that border first and then we will see improvement in this country. btw mexicans don't hate us if they did they would've taken over a long time ago.. they supply our oil for fuel, they build our cars, tv's etc..imagine if they stop the oil shipments. remember japan dispises us since we bombed them. so quit your whinning about all drugs coming from mexico to u.s. we should gut check canada.. hmm how come our government doesn't check them and put up a nazi/berlin wall, up there as well. i am a white american btw..
.....gonna get high!  Whether it's on U.S. weed or Mexican weed....gonna get high!  Here's a plan:  De-criminalize weed and if you want to work at my company, you have to take random drug tests.  No argument, random drug test or you don't work here!  You can find a place to work where management doesn't care...I don't care if you smoke weed, but you can't work here!
To the person who says that marijuana and marijuana users have caused this, get a grip. The problem is way more complex than that. I get really tired of how meth, cocaine, heroine, over-the-counter pharmaeuticals -- and marijuana -- get thrown into the same bag. I don't want to live in a fascist country and there is no way you'll ever stop people from doing drugs in any other way. I also don't see the logic that legalizing pot would increase the flow of other drugs. One does not necessarily lead to the other, in spite of the myth that it does. I've always insisted the real gateway drugs are tobacco and alcohol. I agree that the problems with poverty regarding our neighbors to the south are the major problem fueling this issue and the illegal immigration issue. It's not like that just started yesterday. We continue to glad-hand whoever is in power in Mexico and the poor just keep coming across the border...even with a fence.
Brian Dargitz is ridiculous as most posters are here.  If you had a loved one killed through gang activity, it's the Drug Laws themselves that created the condition.  If it was overdose, it was probably a bad product resulting from an unregulated market.  And, of course, people who have no control of their lives will probably doom themselves with drugs.  BUT, Drug War or not, they can still get drugs, and in a much more dangerous fashion.  Drugs have always been in our society, and most users of lower-level drugs are contributing citizens.  Our forefathers wrote extensively about the pitfalls of legislating morality, and this is a great example.  Regulate it, tax it, and throw anyone in jail who steps outside of the regulated lines.  Iron-fisted regulation would be far more successful than this ridiculous Drug War and it's fascist supporters.  If you can't comprehend economics and how prohibition of a supply or good increases its value and encourages black market activity, then this is just over your head.  Just look at how prohibition caused the same problems.  It was overturned not because of freedom arguments, but because leaders at that time realized it fueled gangs and mafia and made matters worse.  Period.  This country did just fine for the 200 years of it's existence up until the start of the Drug War in 1973, we've accomplished nothing but lost money and lives since.
To the people that are responding negativley to the decriminilization of pot, wake up. Do we really need to cram more people into our overcrowed prisons? We are afterall the country with the highest imprisonment rate in the world, why not double that. We are losing valuable tax money by not taxing the sale of pot. What should we do, declare the drugs illegal and wage a war on drugs, oh yeah we have tried that and it has failed. Yet another unwinnable war the US will pour money and manpower into to only lose.  What do you expect to happen when the worlds' top drug consumer and one of the worlds top arms producers has a problem. A bigger fence is the solution by some when the problem lies within our own borders. We need to use examples from Europen countries that have legalized soft drugs(pot) and have began to regulate and tax them effectively. We should have used their example on health care but that is another rant.
We have been killing each other for thousands of years. What kind of an idiot would think gun control will stop it...wake up! I don't even own a gun, but I am for our right to. If most Americans did not own guns our country would have been occupied years ago. Legalize the drugs...tax them like my cigarettes and pay off the damn deficet.
To all of you blaming the pot smokers.....using that logic, you are all accessories to atrocities the world over. When you buy a cotton tshirt at walmart, does that make you a sweat shop supporter? When you buy spices made in third world countries, do you support their oppressive regimes? When you buy gasoline at BP, do you support OPEC? Saying so is just silly...
The so called fence you want built won't make make a Tinker's Damn of Difference. As long as we have addicts with money, the drugs will get in. As long as we have businesses that need low cost workers the illegals will get in.
We have to come up with a realistic War on Drugs, perhaps by assisting the Mexican Police and we have to come up with a realistic Citizenship alternative for these workers. I don't have all the answers but this knee jerk reaction hasn't worked. A wall isn't going to work either. Look at Berlin.
There you go, that's the answer to everything...whatever "seems" to be the root of the problem just legalize it. Oh and why we are at it, let's just legalize child porn too so that they'll be no more sexual crimes againist children. Viola, a perfect society....
"The republicans scream bloody murder about the border, but their own NRA bribery laced gun policies are whats arming the enemies. "
Let me guess, you want to take my guns to make mexico safer. You disgust me, and your comment is a typical liberal socialist answer to the problem of people, not guns being the issue here. Punish those of us who don't smoke dope, and blame "the man" for all the evils of the world. Let me guess, your trying to find a way to blame G Bush for this mess too. I hate to tell you this, but Obama the Savior, will not be able to fix this problem. Ted Kennedys car has killed more people than my guns, and legalizing dope and taxing it would be one of the biggest disasters in our history. The Tree of Liberty needs to be fed the blood of tyrants and our enemies now and then. Stay Tuned.
Building a Fence is not a viable solution, it wont stop drug lords. When was the last time you saw a drug lord trying to cross the desert on foot while carrying drugs?

They come in by air or trucks, drug-tunnels between borders. Corruption plays a major part in this, and BOTH countries, not just Mexico have their share of corrupt authorities.

Many talk about legalizing Marijuana alone... I doubt thats the only thing used, theres TONS of other drugs. And is not as easy as it sounds, you'd need legalization on both sides of the border.
I believe that the heavy duty firearms come not from the U.S. but from the surrounding countries such as the latin american countries that have or had political armed movements. Part of the de stabilization of Mexico, with the U.s. being next. We are not talkng marijuana here folk, we are talking heroin, cocain, crystal meth. Make big drug trafficking a death sentence.
I'd also note that Britain, Canada and a couple other western European nations have decriminalized pot and seen almost no issues with it.  Here in the US in Seattle, residents passed a proposal to make marijuana the lowest priority for police officers.  In each case, Drug War cronies predicted doom and gloom and soaring use.  Didn't happen.  People can think for themselves, they don't need paternalistic government to tell them what to do.  Of course there will always be people who are self-destructive no matter what you do, but that will happen regardless.  I find it ironic that conservatives are usually the biggest supporters of the Drug War, when they are the ones always saying to keep government out of it and saying citizens know best.  At least libetarians are consistent (and I'm no libetarian BTW).  If we decriminalized drugs, use might modestly go up, if that.  Heck, alcohol and tobacco use have been decreasing and they're both legal.  This problem needs a reasoned, economic perspective.
A question for "Independant" - Which "NRA bribery laced gun policies" are you talking about? In most states, high capacity magazines & full auto weapons are illegal, and the the few states where they are legal, they are HIGHLY REGULATED, by BOTH state & Feds. The most popular full auto weapon in the world (AK-47) is not manufactured in the US, and other weapons (grenade launchers, RPGs, etc) can only be gotten by illegal means. On another note, if domestic marijuna production were legalized and controlled (like tobacco) most of that money would remain in the US economy!
a fence eh what are we doin herding cattle? how dumb.

no fence ever stopped anyone from going under over or thru it.
There is one part of this problem that no one ever mentions. Mexican culture is extremely tolerant of illegal behavior. Mexicans in Mexico and in the US regularly view laws as some kind of inconvenience that gets in the way of obtaining what they want. Here's an example: I know an illegal alien Mexican woman living here in Albuquerque who drives without a license and without car insurance and who regularly talks about how she is going to save money here at the job she works at illegally so she can start a business in Mexico. It never bothers her that she's breaking the law and putting others at risk by driving without a license or without insurance. It never bothers here that the job she is doing has been taken from a US citizen. It never bothers her that she never pays taxes on the cash earnings she makes.

Part of the reason that Mexico is so racked with drugs and corruption is that the Mexican people and the culture they live in do not recognize the value of the rule of law. They cynically think the rule of law is a joke and then promptly do everything to break it and ridicule it and undermine it. Then they complain that the government is doing nothing. Well, Mexican citizens enable lawlessness everyday by tolerating drug trafficing, by migrating illegally to the US, by tolerating and engaging in corruption at all levels. I know because I've lived with Mexicans for the last 21 years. For Mexicans the concept of the rule of law doesn't exist. Following the law is another concept that doesn't exist for them. Why do you think so many Mexicans express no remorse for violating the immigration laws of the US along with violating the laws that govern who can work here, laws that govern who can drive here and how one can drive (e.g. with car insurance, etc.)amongst so many other laws. The only thing Mexicans understand is force wielded by a strong central entity, usually an opportunistic, greedy, man who is not above using violence to get what he wants. Heck, Mexicans even admire that. So get a clue, US citizens. The only way to deal with Mexico and Mexicans is to get tough and militarily kick their a** all the way back to Mexico City and kill as many drug dealers as you can along the way. That's the only solution. Mexicans do not have the intellectual capacity to understand the concept of the rule of law nor of following the rule of law nor do they have the moral development to get tough and do what is right in their own country. That's why they have to blame the US for everything that goes wrong in Mexico. Avoidance of personal responsibility is a fundamental component of the Mexican psyche.
The US and Mexican governments have willfully decided to put the commerce of these commodities into the hands of criminals.

The worst blow you deliver to these drug cartels would be to legalize drugs.  Then the commerce would be in the hands of responsible, law-abiding folks.

Instead of paying billions of dollars in aid we could be gaining billions of dollars in taxes.

Missing from the drugs that these cartels deal in are alcohol and tobacco.  Ever wonder why?

Bullets are not fired over tobacco turf.  Make tobacco illegal and the bullets will start flying.

The cartels don't want the drug war to end and neither does law enforcement.  They would all lose their jobs!  When you look at it that way you see that the cartels and law enforcement are actually business partners.
"Put them in work camps" -- I need say no more.  This explains the Drug War nazi mentality perfectly.  I say we put the folks who think government should act like our parent and tell everyone what to do in work camps for being undemocratic, anti-civil liberty fascists.
Ignorant people still talking about a wall. Get rid of the drug trade by decriminalizing drugs here.
also, how many PRESCRIPTION MEDS are y'all on? those are worse than most of the so called illegal drugs. prescription drug abuse is growing faster than illegal drug use. anyone care to guess why? anyone? no?! i can't remember which comic said it, but it sounds like george carlin. they said that people used to take drugs to make the world a little messed up and trippy, and now people take them to calm down because our current world is a mess. SMART PERSON!!!

so, before ANYONE makes judgements about people who use illegal drugs, check your own medicine cabinet. look at your lifestyle and see what you can do to quit taking the high blood pressure med, the antidepressant (how many people in the US are on them, anyway? staggering, i'm sure), the cholesterol med, etc.

PEOPLE LIKE ME HAVE HAD IT WITH YOU PEOPLE!!! the greedy you know whats that head the drug companies perform far greater atrocities than even the murderers mentioned in this article do. YES, i said it. the CEOs of our own drug companies are by far worse people than the 'crimilized' drug cartels.

THINK ABOUT THAT!!!

I HATE TO TELL YOU BUT THE DRUG PROBLEMS IN THE SOUTH ARE WORSE THAN THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT WANTS YOU TO THINK.  NOW THAT IT IS BECOMING HEADLINES IS WHEN OUR GOVERNMENT IS "CONCERNED"!  THESE PEOPLE IN MEXICO HAVE NO JOBS, NO GOALS, NO FUTURE AND THEY LIVE IN FEAR.  THERE IS SO MUCH CORRUPTION IN PLACES LIKE JUAREZ THAT EVEN ALL THE OFFICIALS ARE INVOLVED.  I KNOW OF A PERSON THAT WENT TO HAVE HIS EYES CHECKED THERE BECAUSE IT WAS "CHEAPER".  HE AND HIS FRIEND STOPPED AT A BAR FOR A BEER AND AS THEY WERE LEAVING, THEY WERE SUDDENLY SURROUNDED BY POLICE CLAIMING THEY HAD DRUGS ON THEM AND ACUSED THEM OF SELLING IN THE BAR.  AS THEY WERE BEING ROUGHED UP AND SHOVED IN THE SO-CALLED PATROL CAR, THEY WERE DISPLAYING DRUGS "TAKEN FROM THEM" IN THE AIR THEY SAID.  THEY WERE SHOCKED AND HAD NO WAY OF DEFENDING THEMSELVES FROM THESE ACCUSATIONS. THEY WERE ALLOWED ONE CALL AND IT WAS TO A FAMILY MEMBER AND INSTRUCTED THAT THEY WERE TO TELL THEM THAT THEY 2 HOURS TO COME UP WITH BAIL. FAMILY AND FRIENDS HAD TO QUICKLY PITCH IN TO MEET THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IN 2 HOURS TIME OR THEY WERE GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED TO A PRISON DEEP INTO MEXICO.  $1500.00 IS WHAT THE COPS WANTED TO RELEASE EACH OF THEM.  CASH.  IT WAS PAID AND A LESSON WELL LEARNED FOR ALL WHO FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ON THE AMERICAN SIDE.  SCARY!  MOST PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALONG THE BORDER CAN TELL YOU IT IS NO LONGER SAFE TO TRAVEL TO MEXICO AT ALL.
The most fundamental human right is the ownership & control of one's own body.  Why is the government able to tell me what I can & can't put in my body?  It's my body - not the government's!  Until all drugs are legalized, the US is not the "Land of the Free"!

We don't need a war on drugs; we need a war on fascist politicians!
a fence eh what are we doin herding cattle? how dumb.

no fence ever stopped anyone from going under over or thru it.

joe blow smokes a joint lasts 1\2 hour big deal, go fill up your gas tank and you give money to people who want us dead now what is the lesser of 2 evils
Don't legalize.  Decriminalize.  Drug users should pay fines that get more and more expensive the more times they get caught.  This would save us all from paying for them to sit in jail.  Then the money could be used to educate people about the dangers of drugs.  We will never win the drug war, but we can choose not to go broke fighting it. EDUCATE and DECRIMINALIZE
I am almost 50 years old and can remember hearing all the talk as a teenager that smoking pot will not hurt anyone and that it doesn't lead to other drug use.  Somehow we now have drugs that can kill a person on a single use and we have enough people in our society using drugs of all kinds that the result can't be called a surprise.  If you legalize pot here, the drug traffickers will simply "switch their marketing" and will shift their focus onto other things.  These are viscous business people who won't sit around and wish for the good old days when they could smuggle pot.  They will replace it and they will kill anyone in their way.  I don't have a problem with legaling pot for medical use.  However, doing that will not solve the issues in Mexico.  The Mexican people truly are in a fight for their lives and the devastation is real. I pray that they can win this and survive.
The war on drugs starting in this country back in the early 1900's. Put simply, the war is a failure. Education and self discipline are the tools to prevent bad habits from forming. As for the pot, it is a plant not a gun so if you have a problem with the plant, talk to God not your congressman. Our government enjoys the money's it recieves from prosecuting non-violent drug offendors. Therefore it will never be legalized. Just as our government enjoys the money's it recieves from speeding tickets. If the speeding law was 3 strikes and you lose your licence for ever, no one would speed. But this of course will never happen just like the war on drugs will never end due to the greed in our own government.
No:1- Contaminate "poison" some of the drugs: Cocaine, Methamphetamines, Heroin., Make it disappear wherever is necessary and of course, some drug addicts are going to pass to a better life, but drug dealers are going to be hurt. Schedule this once a month wherever is necessary and in less than a year the drug dealers & addiction is going to be history.

No:2-  Stop I/Immigration. I can see only one option:
$1.00 US Dollar = $1.00 Mexican Peso,  that way we transfer the problem to south of Mexican border.
I think Mexico needs to re-think their prohibition of firearms.  These drug dealers carry guns and they know that 95% of Mexican citizens and all tourists aren't legally able to carry guns.  So the drug cartels have all of the "power".  
Those of you who want to legalize pot are neatly ignoring the effect pot has on juveniles.  I believe that (most) stoner kids are lazy kids, and will do anything else but take school seriously -- many will justify an alternate existence where living meagerly, while high, is great and many of those won't even obtain a GED.  Legalization, I'm afraid, will force America to a socialist state if for only to take care of the multitude of the unskilled.  For awhile, though, it would bode well for the rest of us who will get richer ...
Ok people!!!

You know they are not going to legalize pot or any other drug within our life times, as long as, we have backwards thinking, 70 to 90 year old gentlemen and women running this country and or a president that doesn't even know where he's at.  They will waste time and money like they always have, lie to the American people and when they finish their terms, they will disappear or make the same suggestions they did while they were in office, which will be as meaningless to us as a people and country just like it is right now. And a fence across the border of the US and Mexico who's kidding who. Please to the US Government, STOP WASTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S MONEY and GROW UP!!!

THANKS.
The problem, unfortunately, isn't just marijuana. Legalizing that, while a good idea in my opinion, won't do anything to change the problems associated with cocaine, meth and heroin. And legalizing those is a BAD idea!

Mexico needs an improved economy to reduce the incentive to smuggle (drugs or anything else). But in these economic times, we can hardly afford to throw billions in cash at them and hope it works miracles.

We also need to improve our policing of our borders, but that also takes money which we can't afford without raising taxes or cutting something else to pay for it, either of which will run into opposition by one political party of the other.

As with most important issues in our country, the solution lies in our congressmen and women at least TRYING to work together, continuously, to address each issue without simply stonewalling due to petty partisan politics. As was said at least once before, if we do not all hang together, then we shall surely hang separately.

In the early 1900s the Mexican revolution between 1 and 2 million people died directly from the warfare or through starvation or associated injuries. When Pancho Villa and his boys killed a bunch of Americans on our side of the border Woodrow Wilson sent in Gen. Black jack Pershing to chase Villa - at least he did something. Meantime, thousands have been killed along the border with Mexico - dozens of AMERICANS of Hispanic extraction have been kidnapped or killed, some beheaded. Fathers find daughters who do not come home - and are heard of being sold into sex trade in mexico and beyond. OUR problem with all this is corruption and betrayal in Washington which puts TRADE and COMMERCE and pandering before anything else including the rule of law. Meantime, the oligarchical system and corruption of Mexico is coming to a state, city, county near you. The fact is NO ONE in charge is willing to do one thing about any of this mess - even when Mexican army and police have protected armed drug cartels coming into this coutnry even WHEN American border patrol and National Guard have been involved in fire fights or face offs with some mexican army and police corrupted by BIG money and the tendency of politicians on both sides of the fence NOT to do anything at all. Plus, many intell people believe certain well connected interests in the US benefit from the drug running in a hundred ways. Much of the money is deposited in banks or stocks - since that seems all the PTB cares about - we got what we dot. Both parties - with few exceptions - are involved in this betrayal. Immigration 'reform' by passing out green cards or citizenship isnt going to help - BIG busines will still want illegal as long as it is cheap and easily manipulated - democrats and pc activists don't care because it gives them one more identity group client - the only cure is torches and pitchforks and throwing every member of house and senate out and voting for a THIRD Party candidate in November - even THEN I am not sure the PTB would get the message. About the only thing to do is pray and hope the mainstream media finally gets a clue about WHAT IS IMPORTANT and what isn't. At the moment they eirher are too lazy to care or are in cahoots with the corpogovernment crowd to bring this nation to its knees and further screw up the lives of those lviing south of the border.
Ending the war is easy, just spike 1% of the drugs with a quick, deadly poison. The low level workers would do this cheaply.  Demand will evaporate, the addicted population (consuming the largest part of welfare and medicaid) will be reduced, and the drug dealers will petition the government for legal alternatives!  (Remember what the "coke" in Coke use to stand for? Cocaine! ...until it was outlawed and the company chose a legal substitute: cafine.)  Think this is a SICK suggestion?  Consider how sick it is to be killing people for profit, twice!  ...once with the drugs themselves and then again with guns to gain a larger share of the drug business!  THAT is SICK!
The problem would end if we would only legalize all drugs & tax them to the hilt; with the tax revenues we could finance so many badly needed public services, including health, education and infrastructure; the drug cartels would be instantly out of business with no more demand/market  We've legalized alcohol which is a highly additive and destructive substance albeit one that Americans find socially acceptable; I don't understand how alcohol is different from other drugs.  Has anyone considered the influence of the Liquor Lobby and their possible efforts to prevent legalization of other drugs which might cut into their profits?  Finally, shouldn't we be more concerned about the real imminent threat [violent drug cartels] on our own borders than with the war in Iraq to benefit the oil industry?
How about we bring some troops from around the world and bring them home for some "Homeland Security", What a farce that department seems to be, unless your one of Bush's friends that got a job because of it. Put our troops on the border and let's see if the drugs lords want to take on the US military. I bet we win that one. WE NEED TO SECURE OUR BORDERS. How much more can we scream this?
Send a huge force of National Guard troops to protect the border .....  uhhhh, I forgot, the National  Guard is protecting  Iraq's  border...........
Why is it so difficult for the morons running our country to figure out what we do.  (stop listening to all the special groups and the whiners) We bring all our soldiers home from the wars-line them up around our country borders hand to hand--build walls w/electric fence & barbed wire tops and guard towers w/armed men and then arm everyone with rocket lauchers, machine guns, grenades,bombs and then let people try to enter illegally and shoot to kill-period.  Regarding our waters-line up boats all around the country's waters and arm them and follow the same rules-shoot to kill.  Stop worrying about political correctness-stop worrying about what other countries say-just do it.  We are the laughing stock of the world for not even being able to prevent illegals and drug dealers and terrorists from entering our country.  No one entering illegally is innocent-they know they are breaking our laws and even probably some international law.  Make our own fuel to power cars, grow our own foods, put Americans to work re-building our infrastructure, and making the many goods we purchase. Improve our schools and colleges until we can go for free, give Americans free medical care.  This could all be done by diverting the war money and even aid money back to our own country & people.  You take care of your own first-then when you can say everyone's doing fine-then you can help with aid to poor innocents in the rest of the world who need our help. Monitor visitors-then send them home.  If you aren't a legal citizen-get rid of them after 2 weeks-they are dead weight and/or trouble.  Get all the illegals and so-called visitors out and mount the best protection around the entire country the world has ever seen.  Lastly make and line up nukes all around the country-pointing towards every party of the world- and tell the world-"we want to be friends"-but if you hurt us on our land or threaten us-we will nuke you off the face of the earth-period.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/03/26/gun.smuggling/index.html

Some of them are coming from guns bought legally at gun shows and smuggled into Mexico
Legalizing marijuana would stop much of the flow of money to these cartels from users as well as free up the 9 billion dollars a year the US spends on enforcement of marijuana laws that were based on racial hatred of Mexicans during the Great Depression. We needed cheap labor in the twenties, but when the Depression happened, the states had to find a way to get rid of the Mexicans.  They smoked marijuana and that is why it was made illegal in 1937.  Convict the Mexicans of marijuana offenses and drive them back across the border.  Perhaps some of that 9 billion dollar savings could be used to construct a border fence and better fund law enforcement efforts to target truly dangerous drugs, not waste resources on taking away something that the US federal government gives to 4 people every month for medical purposes and 12 states have legalized the cultivation and consumption of marijuana for medical reasons.  
There  isn't a fence in the world that will keep out the drug smugglers.  There is so much money involved that corruption goes to the highest levels of government on both sides of the border. The drugs will flow as long as the money flows.  Legalization is a very drastic step but I agree legalizing marajuana might help.  It is not more dangerous than alcohol and tobaccco.  It's time people were responsible for their own health.  Marajuana is not addictive as nicotine. This is very big business and the only way to stop it is to take out the huge profit and put regulations in place.
In response to eric from nys comment
To the independant from Va, gun ownership requires no bribery. It is a constitutional RIGHT. It is people like you that caused that right to be part of our constitution since without it your kind could gain power.

I think you'll find those guns do not go directly south. They are legally traded to foreign countries where their corrupt owners sell them to black marketers who then send them into Mexico or South America. The arms trade is fueled by arms traders. There is not a concern if poppies fund the trade or cocaine.


The guns are bought here in the US just over the border then driven into mexico. Its not hard. No black market involved. Hell I can walk across the street from my work theres a gun shop and could walk out with 20 AK47's for about 250 a piece. Guns are cheap and easy to get. Its easier to buy an assualt rifle than a handgun even. Rifles "including assualt rifles" dont require registration in a lot of states.
BT & @rtimus and it looks like several others have the right idea. Legalize it, tax it. The same people who use it now will be the same people who use it then. If you can't keep it out of a prison how are you going to keep it out of a country?
Come on now!!  You mean to tell me that we can put a man on the moon and we cannot guard our borders??  You mean to tell me that the drug traffickers can out think out smart our highly trained and highly educated DEA??  Do we really as a nation want to put a stop to the drug problem?  
Lets put half the effort and money we have put towards the war in Iraq and can prossilby solve this drug problem.  
Mexico alone will not be able to solve the drug war in their country.  They are going to need outside help.  There is too much corruption in that country.
Am I the only one who believes that our government really doesn't want to win the war on drugs.  Illegal drugs are just that Illegal.  Break the law and the punishment must be both swift and extermely harsh.  As long as the law breakers get nothing more then a slap on the wrist they will keep breaking the law.  Legalizing these drugs will accomplish nothing.  Maybe we should abolish laws, then we won't have any illegal activity.    
For those who wish to legalize drugs:
Back in the day when there was no regulation of drugs, we were a nation addicted to morphine and other opiates.  It was everywhere; and the majority of users were women.  The socio-economic effects were so profound that this nation passed the first laws that would eventually found the FDA.

I, personally, do not want to live in a nation of addicts--legal or otherwise.  These drugs destroy our bodies, our judgment, and our feelings.  You think we have it bad with alcohol and cigarettes?  Modern illicit drugs make these things akin to water.  Mothers will not be able to quit using while pregnant.  Domestic violence will skyrocket.  Young adults will never be able to excel in their chosen profession.  The burden on our healthcare system would be staggering.  Law enforcement will never be able to keep up with the 'new' criminal element that would exist because drugs (cocaine/meth/x) have removed all inhibitions.  The welfare systems will be crushed under the weight of underachievers.  The addictive qualities of illicit drugs will enslave this country.  Big tobacco thrived under this environment.  Imagine how huge 'legal' recreational drug companies would become.

We need to support Mexico and their efforts to thwart the cartels--with money, material, and resources right at the front.  Additionally, we need rebuild our own infrastructure against the lure of drugs:  Education, opportunities for the disadvantaged (not welfare programs), tougher penalties against the pushers, and an actual reform program for criminals so they don't get back into the drug trade when they get out and others who commit crimes for their next fix.  Imagine what we could do with the 90+ billion dollars given over to the Iraq war.
It's a clear and present danger.


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