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Life returns to Iraq’s ‘ghost town’ suburb

Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:43 AM
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Dora, in Saddam’s time, had it all – a power station and oil refinery provided jobs and its large bungalows hidden in date palm groves drew rich, powerful Sunnis and their families to this southern suburb of Baghdad.

 But Dora fell on hard times at the start of the war in 2003.

When I visited Dora about 18 months ago, it was with the U.S. 1st Cavalry Division, before the surge of U.S. and Iraqi forces into Baghdad began. The once bustling "gateway to the South" was a ghost town. It smelled of cordite, an explosive powder.

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Sunni residents were in hiding; Dora’s Shiites were dead or had fled to other provinces; its many Christians – doctors, architects and other professionals – had also fled to escape the sectarian killing. The insurgent town had become an al-Qaida stronghold. But that wasn’t the only threat: Shiite death squads, masquerading as National Police, had murdered and maimed so many Sunnis that the 1st Cavalry had to force the police out of their precinct and cordon off the area. 

It was a very different Dora that I saw this past week, once again embedded with U.S. forces – this time with the 4th Infantry Division. Life had returned. Dora’s famous Friday open market was bubbling with people, produce and color. No one looked afraid.

Working together
U.S. troops, who now live in an outpost right in the middle of town, were not the only force patrolling the streets. So were the infamous, primarily Shiite, National Police, as well as the so-called "Sons of Iraq" – local volunteers, all Sunni, who were mostly former insurgents. It was something quite remarkable I was seeing for the first time: U.S., Shiite and Sunni armed forces cooperating for the general good.

Sunni residents, who wouldn’t have dared to be seen talking to members of the National Police a year ago, were now complaining to them about rising food and fuel prices in the market or asking for advice.

"Before we all suffered from a triple threat – al-Qaida, the militias, and sectarian kidnappings," said Alladin Hussein, a former major in Saddam’s Army, who I met in the market. "Now we are living in stability and security. It’s like a precious gem, something very fragile that you have to take care of."

Image: Christians in Dora, Iraq
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Iraqi men walk in a church behind a cross in Dora, Iraq, on June 2. About eighteen Christian families have returned to their homes in the neighborhood now that security has improved. 

Lt. Justin Chalvko could be called "Mr. Dora" as far as Iraqis here are concerned. He is the face of the U.S. presence in the area – he lives in the local U.S. Army outpost and leads daily patrols through the market with his platoon. He knows many residents by their first names, and jokes with them in his broken Arabic.

Chalvko said the changes in Dora since his arrival six months ago are "like night and day." But he’s no fool.

"Even though it’s good now," he warned, "it’s only been good for four or five months. People are starting to move back into the area, but it’s like everyone’s walking on eggshells still. They want to make sure that it’s for real, it’s not just something temporary."

Sure, the hundreds, perhaps thousands, of 12-foot high, 10-ton blast walls that now surround – and isolate – Dora help keep al-Qaida at bay. But local Dorans don’t seem to care. In fact, most Iraqis I asked about the blast walls said that they actually felt freer these days with the concrete barriers and joint patrols to protect them.

Chalvko walked us past Dora’s reopened parks and replanted gardens, past its new library, its primary care clinic, and high school.

Bank open for biz
He explained that, at first, people just wanted security. Now they want services. He then led us to one service that had just opened last week – the Dora branch of the Rafidain Bank. A bank! I hadn’t been inside a functioning Iraqi bank in years. The last Rafidain Bank branch I was this close to was burning out of control on Baghdad’s Haifa Street during those chaotic days just after the fall of Saddam.

We went inside. There were a dozen or more customers, one in a wheelchair, counting small piles of Iraqi dinars they had just withdrawn or were about to deposit. Tellers, mostly women in head scarves, were busy filling out bank slips and attaching paper clips to deposits. The manager, all the while, was pacing back and forth, smiling nervously, from his office to the tellers and back. I guess that being a bank manager in Dora is not the safest of jobs, no matter how many troops or blast walls surrounded you.

But, it struck me that the very presence of a bank was a symbol of change. Dorans could now avoid traveling through interminable checkpoints, across Baghdad, risking their lives to deposit or withdraw money for loans on houses or cars or new businesses. They could do all their business right here, in their own neighborhood.

"Instead of looking to the Americans to help them out," said Chalvko, "they can come here. It’s a sign that things are going in the right direction."

How many Doras are there?
Covering the war in Iraq is often about analyzing the trend lines. We’re all looking for the elusive "turning point" – that gauge that ultimately allows us to measure victory or defeat.

One of my Nightly News editors in New York, Robert Dembo, summed it up nicely, "I guess the real question now is: How many Doras are out there?" And I’ve got my own new question: "I wonder just how long Rafidain Bank will stay open?"

We shall see.

Jim Maceda is an NBC News Correspondent based in London. He has reported on the war in Iraq since the U.S. invasion in 2003 and is currently on assignment in Baghdad.

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This is a good story.  I am proud of our President, too.  If being a world leader was so easy than everyone would be trying to get the job.  I admire our President for sticking to his guns and what he felt was right at the time.  I just wish everyone would quit calling him names because we all do the same thing with our jobs we have made good and bad decisions.  He didn't do anything really.  Congress had to approve the decision to invade Iraq. He cannot start a war by himself nor can he stop mother nature from doing harsh things to the world or stop the gas prices from going up.  But then again if we don't blame President Bush then who do we blame?  God perhaps?
I expect Mr. Maceda, who dared write something positive about Iraq, will be banned from all Liberal coffee shops, cocktail lounges, and outhouses where the knee-jerk liberals imbibe. The unfortunate problem is that the liberal press' psycho-trauma machinery has 'positioned' Iraq as 'bad'. Few will want to go thru the mental exercise of revisiting their beliefs in light of new evidence.   Instead of denigrating the piece,  his editor, if interested in how many more Doras exist, if  really interested in finding out if things are really changing... he can go or send more people back in to find out.  Especially, he should send people who were there before.
I'm put off by your placing of an image of a bunch of Iraqis entering a Christian church, plastered next to the banner "Life Returns . . ." the implication being that the more the Iraqis become like Christian Americans, the better off everyone will be.  That kind of thinking is devisive and disrespectful and ethnocentric . . . and in my opinion, hopelessly wrong.  Iraq is largely a Muslim nation, and its leaders and passion and hope for the future will come from their own culture, not the religion of an occupying force.  Sure there are Christians there too - but if you think that Christians have some sort of monopoly on peace and love, you're crazy.
I just played online chess with an Iraqi.I told him I am from the U.S. and he called me an occupationer. We should not have gone into Iraq. They believe we are the cause of their suffering. One of the framers of the constitution said that governments cannot rule without the consent of the people. Let's be real. This whole thing will collapse, and Iran, Russia, or China will fill in the power vaccum; because we do not have the popular consent of the people. Let's withdraw our troops rebuild our military and diplomatic relations and strengthen already existing strongholds.
So Mr. Dave Smith, this is "this" administration's war huh.  Well, this war started a long time ago even before the Clinton administration.  But read just a few quotes:

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was asked about the distinction while the operation was going on:

"I don't think we're pretending that we can get everything, so this is - I think - we are being very honest about what our ability is. We are lessening, degrading his ability to use this. The weapons of mass destruction are the threat of the future. I think the president explained very clearly to the American people that this is the threat of the 21st century. [. . .] [W]hat it means is that we know we can't get everything, but degrading is the right word."
Main targets of the bombing included weapons research and development installations, air defense systems, weapon and supply depots, and barracks and command headquarters of Saddam's elite Republican Guard. Also, one of Saddam's lavish presidential palaces came under attack.

And then this from President Clinton:

CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.

I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.

Six weeks ago, Saddam Hussein announced that he would no longer cooperate with the United Nations weapons inspectors called UNSCOM.

Obviously, mistakes have been made by "this" administration in how the war was handled.  But make no mistake, "this" administration didn't start this, it just inherited the problem as will the next administration.  


While I am certainly glad that life is more safe in Dora today, Mr. Maceda's opening sentence says, "Dora in Sadam's time had it all...." - we caused this tragic mess and while I'm glad it's getting a little cleaned up in some places it is a global shame it ever had to happen in the first place.
God Bless our Troops and keep them safe - they have done such a tremendous job under such difficult circumstances...we can continue to discuss the reasons why we went to war but we are there for as long as it takes so I love to see positive stories come out of Iraq and hope for more. Thanks to our Military!!
It is time for the millions of Iraqis that fled abroad to return. Many of those people are intellectuals, which is what Iraq needs. They are the necessary factor in rebuilding the infrastructure and institutions. As long as they fear to return the international contractors also fear to come.  The sooner the Iraqis  return, the sooner peace will come.
It is refreshing to hear that good things are indeed happening in Iraq. It is sad that so many lives were lost in reaching this point. I wonder many times which would have been worst: Allow the former president to reward suicide bombers for killing young Israelis at will? Or stop him as the US and its allies have done? or allow the expansion of the siucide bombing to be brought to the streets of London and New York? Congratulations for a job well done and continues to be done.    
Well.....
Dora has never been safer than now.  Our troops are doing a fine job, as we always do.  The people there will devote much of thier daily free time, dinner, books, soccer, the free time for our troops will be great. When I left Fallujah, the heart felt tears were incredible.  No matter what anyone says our presence there is appreciated more than any American citizen that has'nt been there.
God speed, Hooooah
I have heard and seen about a lot of positive progress in Iraq since the troop surge... but I'm really impressed that our own national news is actually carrying a positive story like this.

It drives home the point.... the troops must stay to stabilize and ensure that Iraq gets back on its feet.  A troop withdrawl now would be disasterous.
With oil prices so high, when will the american people see releif at the pumps? We are already sending billions of dollars to Iraq with no return on investment (ROI in the financial wordl). The only thing we are getting from Iraq is the lost of american lives. I'm a Viet Nam vet and not happy.
When an extreme liberal outlet like MSNBC allows a success like this to be published you can count on the fact that things are going very well in Iraq.Watch more and more of this as things inevitably get better and better which will cause the liberal media to back away more and more from their anti-Bush and/or "anti-war" propaganda to later claim "hey we are not biased"...However they had been so blatantly and bitterly against the effort in Iraq that I know their attempt to "crawfish" out of their radical anti- war effort image will be impossible. Things are going well in Iraq NO THANKS to the liberals and their media.
I have to laugh at the ignorance of some people. Especially those who love to hear the bad news coming out of Iraq. Oh we lost more troops today, oh the green zone got bombed today. You people eat it up. Then when a little gem comes along about the good we military folks are doing over there, you come up with some crazy BS excuse why it's not good news. You know what, we sent that country back to prehistoric times and we are helping to rebuild it. Imagine if it was you over there with no running water, no electricity, and some sectarian militia threating to kill your family if you walk down the wrong street. Wouldn't you want somebody to do something about it? We're doing the right thing. Yes it is costly. Yes it may have been done under "false" pretenses. (I use the word false loosely cause everybody spins thing to suit thier side of the story). But it's somehting that must be done. If not by us then by who? Are you going to personally go to Iraq and settle all of their problems? Probably not. So until you folks decide to look at the big picture, and do something constructive about it instead of complain, be quiet.
I think that for far too many years the liberals have controlled the media.  They've brainwashed generations into thinking that the U.S. is always the bad guy.  As a PROUD American I'm disgusted by these tactics.  It's time for PROUD Americans regardless of your politics to give America the benefit of the doubt first, not all other countries.  America has made its mistakes but, we are by far the most generous, caring country in the world.  So, I say Americans be PROUD of the fact that things in Iraq will get better if we stick together and help the Iraqis to build a better life.
The fact is the surge has not worked; the main goal of the surge, national political reconciliation (yes that's what Bush said was the goal: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/01/20070110-7.html ), has not happened.  Keeping the peace by the point of a gun and paying off bribes is not reconciliation. Support our troops, vote for Obama, and bring them home!  
I appreciated the story.  I also appreciate that it was palpably difficult for an MSNBC correspondent to maintain a consistently positive tone, hence the numerous "however's" and "but's" in the narrative and the downbeat ending.  Worse, those sad, little "snipes" weren't really necessary and simply justify the suspicion that MSNBC and its NBC parent have a viewpoint to sell, even when they concede the occasional victory.
You see, it is totally possible to give full credit to localized successes like Dora, without all the qualifications, and yet to still question the validity of the war and its outcome and cost.  For the amount of money and effort poured into Iraq, we could have turned any number of places into decent locales in which to live.  The question is, and ought to be, what does the USA get out of this, besides the endless diversion of resources and effort and the sacrifice of lives and money?  Will a democratic, peaceful Iraq be to our advantage?  How so?  Will the cost of that be worth the benefit?  Can anything we achieve in Iraq balance the loss of control over the Saudis and the Gulf States which removing Saddam cost us (how did the Saudis react to Pres. Bush's request for more oil - anyone care to answer)?  Will it be worth the surrender of regional hegemony to the Iranians?  We still do not know the ultimate cost of victory or the value to be realized should that victory be achieved.  Indeed, we haven't even defined (as the Powell Doctrine insisted we must) the very meaning of "victory".
I applaud the success in Dora and the soldiers who made it happen, but it still doesn't excuse the war, not when we continue to pay to build (and rebuild, after they're bombed) schools or roads or infrastructure in Iraq, while our own schools and roads and infrastructure deteriorate.
To Kevin G: go on the net and google the average prive of gas in the US in Jan 2003 then go out to your closet gas station and take a look at the current pump price. Go get a passport and take a trip to Europe and the Middle East and stand out on the streets and yell out how you're an American and you love the fact that that we invaded Iraq (see what that gets you). Would you like a few more "facts"? I'm not necessarily anti-conservative. In fact, I consider myself to be more conservative now than when I was younger, but I am anti-stupid. The story is encouraging, and I never said otherwise. It's the immediate jumping on the bandwagon to tout how this proves the administration was right all along that amazes me. Sure if we stay there another 5, 10, 20 (?) years we can pacify enough of the country to say "Yeah, we won!!"; are you willing to sacrifice your son or daughter to achive that long term goal? If so, go ask them (if they're old enough) how they feel about that. You fail to look at history back to the Crusades. Islamic people will NOT accept people they consider invaders occupying land they consider historically theirs no more than we would accept invaders occupying places we consider to be American. That is part of what has given that manic Bin Laden and others of his ilk so much sway over younger Muslims; if the jihadists hadn't been so uncaring about killing other Muslims who disagree with them, you might find your story about Dora quite a bit different. Be glad they make just as many mistakes as we have. Oh, and before it comes up I am a Christian, ex-Vietnam veteran who is exercising his right to speak just like you are.
Thanks for the very interesting and encouraging story. I wish the war was covered more fairly. Give us the good, bad and the ugly. For far too long we have gotten just the bad from the far left press and even the White House. I blame the President also for a lack of the communication to the American people. I  blame the far left for putting their party before the good of our GREAT country. Durbin comparing our troops to "Nazi's" or Gore saying "he betrayed our country and played upon our fears" is treason. EVERY leading Democrat thought and said the EXACT same things as the President did before the war! 9/11 changed everything! We need to work together to win this war, we need to help grow a democratic and free Middle East. We need to do this for the future generations of this greatest country on God's green earth.  
Dora was Predominately an Assyrian-Christian enclave and over the years, Arabs from the surrounding Baghdad neighborhoods had the intentions of taking over the Dora district, drive the Assyrian-Christians out. During the US liberation war of Iraq, they took advantages of the situtation and managed to drive all of the Assyrians out of Dora and illegally possess their houses and propety that was left behind when escaping for their lives.

It is time for the Iraqi government and the world community to look over the dire Assyrian situation and grant an autonomous region in their ancestral homeland of the Nineveh plains and the Assyrian triangle. Assyrian refugee situation in the neighboring countries of Iraq speak for itself about the plight of people who dwelled and created the worlds first civilization which the great musuems around the world attest to it and now are living on handouts from UN relief agencies.
"Dora has hit hard times since the coalition invasion". INVASION????!!! Gee, I just cant figure out why everyone always says MSNBC is liberally bias...hmmmm.
Let's not forget that there are those who don't want to see PEACE in the region, who stand to benefit from the conflict and chaos either financially, through power, or something.  Terrorists are in this category - they do not want us or Iraq to succeed because they'd be "out of a job".  Let's continue supporting the good citizens of Iraq and our service men/women who are working diligently for a peaceful Iraq (while we sit on our arse's and point fingers.)  I agree that alot of the fighting is civil battles, not necessarily Al-Qaida. Thousands have given their very life and I hope that not one has died in vain.
As a person who has three family members who have served in both Iraq and Afghanistan, this is refreshing.  All 3 service personnel have told us that what we see on our news broadcasts is information that is fed to the media.  It is not always the complete truth.  All three of these young people have come back from their tours extremely proud of what was accomplished.  They had a mission and a purpose, and it was achieved.

As far as rising gas prices are concerned, does anyone remember a little storm named "Katrina" and her sister, "Wilma"?
Why has this wonderful story disintergrated into so many negative responses?  And this isn't the only city (suburb) that this is going on in....we're just not hearing about the others.  I want more of this type of reporting, and I don't care who is doing it.  But the Iraqi people themselves need to be hearing about it too.

Am glad to see that many various types are getting along and cooperating in Dora.  Too bad we can't do the same.....here at home and in Iraq.
Freedom is poison to extremist religion. Freedom turns extremist religion into moderate religion (as it did with Christian Europe). Extremist religion is the root cause of terrorism. There is no better weapon with which to fight the Global War on Terror than freedom.
How about some of those 12 foot walls by the Mexican Border? Mexican drug violence and gangs armed with military weapons are having daily gunfights. Check out the State Department warnings. Of course the media ignores a war on our border.
It takes the whole community to build a nation. This approached is a reminiscent of our historical facts that to rebuild a nation, it takes a lot sacrifices, trust, loving, respects and understanding of each other well being. It's a great news to all of us, especially the people of Iraq. Let's keep our fingers
cross, that this will be the stepping stone to move positively onwards on Iraqi people as a new rebuild nation. This reminds me of my old country (Philippines), getting rid of the dictatorship. A nation that was founded on freedom and democracy.
When did it become our problem to go and help a country that didn't want our help?  Why is it that so many people say that we are fighting this was to "defend our freedom"?  How is fighting this war defending our freedom? We went in and invaded their country, killed their people, and decided what was best for them. If they want to kill themselves, let them.  If we invaded their country for their oil why is gas so high? Why don't we take the oil for ourselves to help pay for the cost to the AMERICAN people for this war? I could care less about the lies that were told to get the public to agree on the war because it is too late for that now.  Let's gain something not only for the Iraqi people but for the American people also. Through out history countries have been invaded and the spoils of war went to the winning side but where is ours? When a soldier is given an order, he/she follows it, no questions asked. I not only don't blame the soldiers but I support them and hope for a safe return but I also want a monetary return for the time and energy that our stupid President caused.  He is an idiot just like his father was.
To K Wills of Austin Texas:
The reason we sacrifice blood and treasure to protect the neighborhoods of Iraq is that's what we
do and that's who we are. Thats what makes us Americans, what makes us special and what makes us the best in the world. Sacrificing for the liberty and freedom of others.  We did it in World War II and we'll do it again tomorrow. We're Americans.
(sorry to offend any Obama loving liberals out there).
Since Al-Qaida are responsible for 3% of the violence then why are we there? Iraq has nothing to do with 911. Bush wanted this war to cement his name into history are the dumbest president ever!!!
A positive piece on Iraq who would have thought.
If I now see an article on how Rockefeller just wasted a year and countless tax payer dollars to prove that Bush lied, only to determine that based on all available Intel information, his decision was justified, I think I will fall off my chair.

The only reason a trickle of good things are taking place in Iraq is because of our troops, which is the way it shold be, they are the ones who destroyed it and brought about over 100 thousand innocent Iraqi deaths thru collateral damage, and yes a few undisciplined tropps actually murdered the innocent- the Iraqi war is doomed to failure, because it started with a lie.

I work in Iraq as a contractor and have heard many times, that things were better under Saddam.

Bush should be tried for war crimes (for lying and invading Iraq) and if we leave Iraq will become even worse- what a blunder by BUSH/CHENNEY/RICE.

Thank you to our wondeful trops for all you do
We would not be a Free Nation if Leaders like George Washinton did not convince those figthing to stay the course. The question should be what will a free Iraq mean to us and the world. Our Goverment was not formed over night and came close to failure. I can not believe the majority of Iraqis do  not want a save peaceful country to raise there families. The Congress should be figuring out how to be successful, leaving will only cause harm to us and the world. Peace is costly. BZ to the Troops
So funny that Engel says "People just don't care about Iraq"  Sure, right when stories are positive and not as negative do people seem to "not care" according to him.  How about it being more about all the mainstream liberal news outlets not "caring" enough to broadcast said stories.  Seems like they wanted people to care immensely when it was going bad, but now that it's going good they're trying to insinuate and tell people "You don't care about this, move along now!"  So predictable!  What happened to that civil war?  Why is it even called the Iraq "War" in the first place!?  There's no war over there, it's terrorism or an insurgency at best, not a war.  Think gas prices are bad now?  Just let Barrack pull troops out of Iraq like he says, and see how soon you start riding a bicycle to work!
It's hard to believe that a positive story regarding Iraq would show up on MSNBC.  For those of you who seem so surprised about positive developements all you have to do is speak with people in the military who have been there and can see the progress that Barack Oblabba now wants to abandon.  Just go to the military newspaper's web site (www.estripes.com) and you'll see these type of stories and photos often.  Let's give the Iraqi people and victory a chance.
gee after five years and BILLIONS and BILLIONS we have a bank  in Iraq!
Glad that the Iraqis have a place to put all that US money that we threw down the drain in Iraq.
any one who thinks that Iraq is a success are not asking the dead Iraqis the refugees and most importantly to me the american cost in lives .
It is also the greatest war profiteering that has ever taken place.

Liberals that so many have pounded here did not think that eventually Iraq would be quiet. we did we just did not like the price. we had no doubt that we could terrorize and bomb a country into submission
A war without cause and without end. what would Jesus think?
Those of you that keep saying the President lied for this war to go forth need to do a little catching up on who said what about Hussein before we attacked.You have the same reports from Hillary,Pelosi,Kennedy,Biden,Reid,and many others that recieved the same reports Bush did and said Hussein must be stopped.So stop your finger pointing and blaming because you have the facts WRONG !!! If Billy Boy would have stopped playing golf long enough to make one phone call Binladen would never been a problem.......think about that one.
The United States government only helps people who have what they need. They call it protecting their investments. If you think I am lying look it up for yourself and tell me. I bet there is a US representative in every country that has a good that we used. Bush used his executive powers to steer this country in the wrong direction. He has created many enemies and we can all blame high gas prices on him. If the soldiers wasn't fighting this so called war againts terrorist (muslims) then we would be living happier and enjoying ourselves instead of us burying our sons and daughters. God help America

What our country has done to the Iraqi people, is infinitesimally worse than what Saddam had ever done, there are way over (Green Zone stopped publishing the numbers, several months ago, to get a better grip on the whole negative picture thing), 100 thousand innocent woman, children and men murdered thru collateral damage by our troops (just folowing orders), why did BUSH have to Lie?

Our Government owes a heck of alot more than what we are giving Iraq, BUSH lied and invaded and now occupies Iraq-and has brought nothing but misery- he truly is a evil man-and our nation reflects this evilness and low moral standards,
I wish that there could be order and peace in the whole world.  The article is one of hope and that is the only thing that is left when there is so much incertainty in everything else.  So, I am proud of our troops and our country for doing what we have done that is looking out for ourselves and our safety.  If that included liberating the iraqies then even better.  
And I don't believe we should be attacking the people that come over from different countries.  This country was founded on immigrants so that is not even an issue.  Going to origin of the problem is what will solve our issues.  
And these shootings are done by citizens,  I dought an immigrant would put themselves in danger of being deported and seperated from their family.  I'm sure there are a few but those are the one that should be deported anyway.
There is always a positive report and truly calm place in Northern Iraq called KURDISTAN. It has been very peaceful since 90's and after Saddam's fall too. There has never been a single shooting,kidnapping or injury to US Army or any other foreigners. I'm an interpreter for the US Army and I did work in southern Iraq and now I'm in Kurdistan and I really do appreciate the security and the hard work that US Army and the kurds did and continue to do to keep it like this.
What about the terrorist, the American people know nothing about how many of them how been averted from striking.  There's alot we don't know about, because the ones that have never gone to war take advantage of our Country, don't they?  They do nothing but spout off about how ignorant they really are about war and it's consequences.  Freedom is not free, remember?  I am glad for Dora. Now I wish America would help it's own people.
I must admit that it sickens me that america has either forgotten, or just never was informed that it was 2-12 INF 2ID and 1 ID that actually made this place liveable from 2006-2008. This story is a joke.
Uhm, so after 5 years we have physical barriers, paid off ex-insurgents, and many US soldiers providing enough security so that people can go to the bank and market? Well, at this rate we might be able leave in 20 years. And don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those that is all about a sudden withdrawal of our troops. And I can assure you no president regardless of party (D or R) would be stupid enough to let that country tear the whole region apart by withdrawing US forces early. Good to hear something positive though.
Maybe president Bush and V.P can afford to higher security forces for Iraq ,after we pull our troups out and bring them home?
I for one think we are doing a great job their.
yes we need are troops here at home, we need people to also wake up and learn about were are things are coming from like are oil and are prices on things is not all from are war and being over their. A lot of are problem is from not taking the time to get all the facts we have here. We have oil here in the USA. but some people do not want us to know and to get at it..
(It is said  that a country is better controlled when it's ignorant...)
Aaaaaaaand their OFF.....A couple of disappointingly mild comments come out of the gate, this could be a short flame war folks..But Wait! Here comes  Immigration Nation around the corner to take the lead followed closely by Backbone Revisionist. They are neck and neck coming out of the first turn, but coming on strong is Media Basher! Yes, this baby is fueled by pure ideology. Without the burden of understanding and context, this baby can really fly. Up the flagpole, saluted and back around the third turn and flaming pure liberal out the back end as the turbo kicks in.

Where were you right winger's the last couple month's.. You have all been very quiet. Until you get a bit of good news, so now you can all jump on the band wagon agian.. What kind of smear campain do you have in store for the Democratic party this week.. or until more bad news, and you can all hid in the corner again..

I'm torn between what is the more compelling story here...  The improvements being made in Iraq or the distress and anger those improvements trigger in liberals.

What does it say about the left that they want political power so badly they're more than willing to see the US lose and terrorists win?

And for the record... there are only a couple legitimate things the US government could do to reduce gasoline prices (build refineries and expand domestic production) and it's the left that's blocked them.  Put your blame where it belongs.



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