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In Beijing, plenty of pro-China free speech

Posted: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:46 PM
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"Do you work for that American news company that said all those bad things about the Chinese people?" That question was posed to me yesterday by a taxi driver as I was riding to NBC News’ Beijing bureau. Not exactly your typical ice-breaker.

The driver was referring to CNN commentator Jack Cafferty, who made a comment on air about China’s leaders being "thugs and goons" – which has been taken as a personal affront by the nation of 1.3 billion people. 

I might have thought it was unusual for someone in China to bring up a politically loaded subject like that except for the fact that a Chinese babysitter my family has worked with for about two years asked me the day before to clarify who my employer was.

And later that same day, as we were shooting news footage inside a Beijing restaurant, a Chinese couple who recently returned from a vacation in the United States started complaining to the crew and me about Western press coverage of China – especially when it comes to the issue of Tibet.

The series of comments are an illustration of how far the current wave of Chinese nationalism has reached. It's fueled by anger over the tarnishing of China's image at a period of great pride for hundreds of millions of Chinese excited to be hosting the Olympic Games.

When you speak with people here, you get a sense that many average Chinese are hoping Olympic publicity will allow the outside world to notice the positive changes China has made in recent years, instead of fixating on what is wrong. That sense of real national pride – not some robotic obedience to the government and its policies – seems to be behind much of the anger.

To their credit, everyone who spoke to me about my employer was polite. But there is plenty of rage still out there, especially on the Internet.

China's blogs are seething these days, with many railing against the Western press and Tibet sympathizers. Chinese bloggers have inspired real protests against French-made goods and businesses in China – many here believe the French did not do enough to protect the Olympic torch when it passed through Paris, with a demonstrator almost wresting it away from a Chinese Paralympics torchbearer.

Chill out
With many Chinese angry over these perceived slights, the government has grown concerned about the intensity of the popular protest and what impact it might have on the games and China’s international image. So now, officials are taking steps to calm everyone.

Xinhua, China’s official state news agency, released a statement saying it was time to curb national zeal, which the agency implied could scare foreign investors away.

Two editorials in the Chinese press asked people to make a hospitable impression to guests and channel their energy into working for China's future.

And for its part, France is sending a high-level delegation to China on a charm offensive.

On April 30, the 100-day countdown to the games will begin, with the Olympic torch arriving on Chinese soil, and many hope the fanfare and celebration may help to shift focus away from the current controversy.

At the very least, this public outcry has been an example that in the world’s largest communist country, there can be free speech: especially when it's a decidedly pro-China.

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This all reminds me the state-sponsored protests against Japan I witnessed in China a few years ago, when a newly published Japanese history book glossed over the war atrocities the Chinese experienced.  Chinese protesters back then were escorted by the PSB (police) as they smashed Japanese stores and generally went out of control.  The government seemed to think this was a good idea, until similar, spontaneous, not-approved "protest" events started cropping up all over the country.  The Chinese people are ready to explode after decades of oppression, and they really need only the slightest provocation to do so uncontrollably.  I think the Chinese government did all they could to fuel the fires of fanatical nationalism over the events surrounding the upcoming Olympics, and now they're trying to reign in their people again.  I wish the Chinese government would spend more effort on real social reforms, long-term environmental protection, and genuine international relations instead of more propaganda-centric population control.
Well put . . . the media needs to start focusing on the postive aspects of China and how far they have come from where they were even a decade ago.  I hope we can see this type of media coverage during the Olympics.
Ok...to Mr. Mullen
Maybe you should get at least one thing straight: China is techniquely not a "communism country" people there are pro-china aren't because of government agenta. patriotism is only the result of CNN, BBC, and MSNBC's "fair" converage.The least you guys can do is stop writting stupid articles like this that has under-toned racism of chinese people like "my baby sitter who's chinese" or "only pro-china protest is allowed"...well, there are only pro-chna protests because that's what chinese people feel: they ARE pro-china.
I find it interesting that you would twist genuine Chinese patriotism into some sort of "censorship' piece again. Note that I use the word "patriotism...the protection of one's nation under duress...and not "nationalism", which is a wholly western originated idea that spawned European and American imperialism, among other goodies.

How do you account for the massive numbers of ethnic Chinese outside of China who feel the same way about the biased coverage from the "free' press of the West? I guess outfits like BBc and CNN are indeed "free"...free to crop, shift and cut/paste all the images.

Xizhang, or Tibet will always be a part of China.
the patriotism show by the chinese is only the result of protest AGAINST chinese. Why should we take the blame if the whole thing was started out my boycott of Chinese Olympic. This just shows another bias in portraying China...when other country protest us, we should stay silent and just take it??? Apparently it is our fault when things got out of hand!!! Nice job
You are correct in letting the world know about the two edge sword that represents our First Amendment Right being used in China with only one edge.

When the patriotism of the common person as shown in your article flows over and they use the other edge to condemn their own government for the multitude of trespasses against their own people, will the Chinese people know what a real Democracy and Freedom mean.  

When the Chinese Government allows the other edge to be used against itself, will the Chinese people truely have Freedom.
Well, I'm glad you wrote what you wrote. The "international" media (that word, and the word "world" has been abused so much, people know what they REALLY mean) always portray the local population as simpletons with no common sense. If the objective of the "International" media is to convince the "International" audience that things are really bad in China, then I'd say they achieve the objective. If the goal is to convince the (true) international community that China deserves to be demonized, then they are deluding themselves. "Free speech" doesn't always have to be subversive or anti-government.
Citizens in China are very down-to-earth, they care about what their government can bring to them in terms of a wealthy life. They don't really want to argue if this is captallism or communism. Most of them embrace the fast upgrading life their government bring to them over the past 30 years. When it comes to free speech, although it may not be as free as the United States today, it is becoming definately easier everyday. People outside China may find it easier to critize the commusim, because of the image left by the communism in the past. If you are inside China, you will realize that the government nowadays is very practical and they don't even talk about the communism that much. Young generations even don't actually feel the "communism smell" at all.  
I'm glad to see that the Chinese stand up for their country as it has achieved a great deal, especially in the past 20 years. Hosting the Olympics is chance for them to show the world China is a confident and proud nation. Ensuring the basic needs for 1.3 billion people are met is a tough job. Education, health and job opportunities have improved beyond recognition from the early days of Chairman Mao.
But there will always be activists who have something to protest about e.g one party state, free speech, death penalty. China's govt has made positive moves on individuals rights recently and we should encourage more of this instead of shouting at them. As long as China's govt act in the best interests of its citizens it will have their support.
Enjoy the Olympics China you have earned it!
I an Chinese but I pretty much grew up in the west, Canada since the age of 9 to be exact (I am now 22). My main source of news come from the Internet these days, but believe you me, I am just as angry as those listening to local media in China, they call it bias, I call it all out, motivated propaganda that's no different, if not worse than the ones before Iraq.

You see, the concept of free speech is not based on the assumption that it will create the truth, its based on the idea that, with everyone voicing their biased opinions equally, you eventually reach an equilibriums that could be taken as the truth. This assumption work for domestic issues, as you will always have two camps who voice different oponions, and at the end of the day people will see the debate and decide for thsmeleves what to believe.

The problem with coverage on China these days is that the "other side" does not exist, I've fliped through pages after pages of Google News, 75% of articles were recycled from AP and the 25% remaining were essencially oponion pieces. The most common argument has been that China does not allow reporters free reign in the country, but what I don't understand is, how does that even come remotely close to justifying fabricating information under the banner or "unconfirmed reports". AFP the other day released another article that described Lhasa events as "peaceful protests", one has to wonder, if those were really just "mistakes", why are they all so conveient?

What the popular media is doing is called creating spontanious consensus, through repetition of suggestions and possibilties of an idea, after a awhile, the audience become metnally conditioned to automatically associating an event with that image. Information not based on facts gets suggested and eventually ceased to become contraversal, issues like Tibet "invasion" in 1950 and indeed the very idea of Tibetan independence, which has no historical backing whatsoever, has been recycled by the media endlessly to the current state of automatic acceptance.

I can go on but I have other work to do, so the bottom line is, having grown up watching western media, and cared enough about China to do my own research, and through personal visists to relatives, I can assure you, what China does is censor the bad news, what the west is doing is to flood people with so much false information that it effectively erases the truth. In China people might not know a lot of those well publicized things in the west, but the even more scary thing is, people in the west "knows" thing that does not exist. The former is censoring , the latter is truth brainwashing.
Is it FREE speech?  What is the nature of freedom of speech?  You would have free speech under Stalin's iron-fist if you were pro-purge. You may also welcome to free speech under Nazi terror if you were pro-Hitler, or you could say whatever you wanted under Saddam's tyrannic control if you were pro-Ba'ath!
As a Chinese, I would say that this article is quite objective and a true reflection of the reality in China. However, the drive behind why Chinese are mad about the Western media has its own complication. As a starter, some of us are so disappointed in the Western media because they failed us. When the news about Tibet unrest first came out, I almost 100% trusted what CNN said. But as time passes by, I found that many western media just took what the Tibetan government in exile said as granted. Up until now, there is not a single hard evidence on how many people dead in Tibet but many media just assume that more than 140 were shot in Tibet. Is this your professional standards? Believe in something that is totally groundless?

China has a civilization of more than 5000 thousand years. Don't just assume that you can understand China just by reading a few articles online or by spending your week-long vacation there.

so what about the antichina free speech?
As you wrote 'That sense of real national pride – not some robotic obedience to the government and its policies – seems to be behind much of the anger.',we Chinese think so.
I know a high level indiviual in the press and he tells me that in a real sense the media minipulates the public to get the emotional response they want even if it means inventing a truth. Anotherwords, blatant lying if necessary. This article, in my opinion, is such to quell the anger of those who are on Tibetians side and to kiss the tail of China. China stole the independence and soverenty of Tibet for themselves. They never had regard for anyone and are a very arrogant people. The responcibility of what they did to Tibet sits squarely on their shoulders. And they are reaping what they did. Freedom of speach is NOT allowed in China. If you try it there is a bullet waiting you!

If this opinion of mine does not reach the blog in its entirety it shows blatant censorship by our own government/media. Freedom of speach is a protected wright declared by the constitution of the United States and belongs to the people of the USA NOT the the US media.
Good job, Mark...

The Westermn media are trying to cover the basic fact: Tibet is a part of China for almost one thousand years.    The position of Dalai Lama was created by then Chinese emperor.  All 14 Dalai Lamas (the current Dalai Lama is 14th) were all appointed by the Chineses government.
can u help me find other neews articles
Pride equals tribalism.
Mark,

I would describe the reason of nearly unified Chinese anger in response to all these recent China-bashing in the following way:

It's not a case of debating if the glass is half full or half empty. Rather it is more like that we (i.e. the Chinese) know the glass is 75% full and all of a sudden everyone else are saying it is completely empty.

So yeah, even those people with no love for the government or Party are mad at the collective performance of the western media and the so called human rights activists.
Many "Western" governments would like the Chinese government to meet with the Dalai Lama, to reconcile Tibet and the rest of China. At the same time, however, they encourage pro-Tibet protests. What they don't seem to realize is that those two goals are divergent and conflicting: the pro-Tibet protests alienate Tibet from the rest of China; they arouse anger in non-Tibetan Chinese against Tibet, which only pressures the Chinese government to avoid being viewed as weak or soft toward the Dalai Lama and Tibet.
I'm from Shanghai, one of the biggest cities of China. Your report tells the truth. We love peace as well as Olympic Games, and we even love France. That country used to be thought as a romantic and charming place but now some unfair voices from the country ruined the image. However, I believe things will be changed soon. I think Carrefour is the victim, too. All the people I know will not do shopping in that French supermarket on May 1st, but no one will do anything to destroy facilities there. We don't want to be described as mobs by some western press.
Well Jack Cafferty call the Chinese people goons. He did not say the "leaders". Which makes him and people who try to cover up for him racist!! It's racist! Would he or Mark say the similiar insults against the Jews. Of course not, because you will never work another day on TV again.  Cafferty is being racist against the Chinese because he knows he can get away with it.
They dont have free speech in China. They simply do not have it. You can be persecuted, arrested, etc for the things you say.
No. It's not about free speech. It's about the separation of China, an act supported by the Western Governments. That's why the Chinese are so mad at the French, among other Westerners.

Have you ever asked yourself the questions: 1, why CIA supported Dalai Lama in 1959 to escape from China? 2, who are the organizations what provide financial support to the Dalai Lama and his exile government?

Go deeper and analyze the situation with a cool head, you will understand more about the strategic game played by the West against China.

Unfortunately, they will not succeed. The reason is simple, because the West has always underestimate the wisdom of the Chinese government and its people. There must be a reason that the Chinese civilization of 5000 years history has always been there without interruption.

Also, Mark, ask yourself one more question: who are those people who protest against China and why they did so? Sure most of them are innocent common people who received partial information about Tibet and then  decided to help the weak Tibetan exiles. "Dalai Lama might be playing politics? How's that possible, he is  a living God!" But as a reporter, you should definitely be clear that Dalai Lama is indeed not a common people. He is a shrewd and successful politician behind his charming face.

But there're also people who simply took this chance to voice their frustration of globalization, which may   in a way has forced him out of employment. I sympathize with these people, though I don't think it's reasonable to vent your anger to China when your government failed you.
 
Yes, China is far from being perfect. The lack of free speech, the lack of transparency, the lack of independent Judiciary and many others. We certainly know that. But we are working on that in our own way.

We do thank those people who sincerely care about the situation in China. But we can't accept any attempt to  separate our country, including those of Dalai Lama and those ugly Western governments.

By the Way, Mark, you know what? The biggest loser of these latest events is western media, including the ugly CNN and BBC, because the Chinese young, who used to trust almost blindly the western media and thought they are always objective and fair,have no illusion any more about this.  

People's Republic of China is a communist country. What do you expect? They do not respect the environment, women's rights are practically non-existent, and they could careless about anyone else except themselves. They see no fault in themselves, just everyone else outside of China. Why is the U.S. and the Europeans doing business with this country? They have not matured enough to do business with the rest of the world. We need to bring the jobs back from China into the Western Hemisphere.

China should have never been given the opportunity to host the Olympics at this time. It is way too early for China to host such international event.
Thanks for recognizing
"That sense of real national pride – not some robotic obedience to the government and its policies – seems to be behind much of the anger."

When it comes to portray China as well as peoples and cultures in the developing world, self-righteousness and ignorance, if not bias, are plenty especially in the US media. Isn't the media also responsible for the outburst of Chinese nationalism?  
this nationalism is just what the communists hoped for 60 years ago. brainwash the people long enough so they will think their way is right.
Like all economies based on imperialistic expansion, the Chinese must believe they are doing nothing wrong.
So all unfair trade and currency practices are
simply written off as economically necessary, as
the only way to compete against the empires of the west.  We should not be surprised by any of the
moves made by China.  
Free speech is not free if it is only free when the government approves. Even the most brutal warlord would protect the free speech of those who agreed. China has blocked Youtube and carefully controls news coverage in and out of their country.  Not only does China have troubling issues such as ties to Sudan, suppression in Tibet and forced abortions in their One Child policy the have prevented the open discussion that might help them move into a more respectable place on the world stage.  
On the one hand I can't help but feel duded into beleiving that the CHinese national sentiment cannnot see the forest for the trees. I wonder, is this true? But then iving long enough to clearly remember the cold war and the " China threat" I also know this is not an exageration. After all these citizens of China confuse their own national identity with being "Good  Communists"
i support what you saiy as a chinese.
yes, we know what is wrong and what is right.
we just want the world to know us fair.
we love our country like you.
i support what you saiy as a chinese.
yes, we know what is wrong and what is right.
we just want the world to know us fair.
we love our country like you.
I grew up in China and was a graduate student in the 1989 student movement. Back then I tuned our short wave radios to foreign stations for more reliable news. Since then I have lived in the US. Twenty years later, the Chinese student movement is now turned against the "free and professional journalism" of the western media. I have to agree with the Chinese students, this time again.

Chinese people including the Tibetans have never enjoyed so much political freedom in China's 5000 year history. When Nixon visited China, the communists were real communists. Now the "Chinese communists" are more capitalist than the Democrats in the US. The "human right abuse", "repressive government" is simply not the experience by everyday Chinese at all.

The western media’s mono-tone reporting is clearly out of touch with the Chinese people both in and out of China. This is what caused the demise of western media as credible source of information among the Chinese students and well-educated average Chinese people. When the Chinese enjoys the best ever freedom they have, and yet the western media is throwing mud and doing smearing campaign against their government, they are just annoyed by the arrogance. The Western media lost its credibility to the Chinese People-this is a reality now. This is not a “brain wash” by the Chinese government. This is a grass-roots movement. This has nothing to do with the “pride” of Chinese people.

Talking about human right violation, the US has the worst record in the world. It killed millions and millions from Korea War, Vietnam War to Iraq war. In between, it killed millions and millions of innocent human lives by "economic sanctions". It is the wealthiest country on earth, and it uses billions of dollars a day to invade other country, yet it let thousands of its own homeless die on the street each year. Is this the standard of human right record that the western media is proud of?
I am an American professor at a major university in China.  I, too, have noticed that Chinese people are much more outspoken than usual about these current political issues.  Mainly, I think, they are proud that China has advanced enough to host an Olympics--the same way Atlantans felt back in '96.  Like anyone would, they feel disappointed their chance to shine might be tainted.  Unfortunately, the accompanying sentiment among many seems to be that the U.S. government has somehow engineered the uproar over Tibet in order to gain an economic advantage over China, particularly regarding currency issues.  
Jack Cafferty's comment is not about the chinese leaders. There ia no refering to chineses government or leaders at all. And it ie more likely, "thugs and goons" are refer to chinese people.
If China was smart they would capitalize or francise Tibet.  They can use that country to build up their economy by the ways of Tourism.  People like to travel and what better place would their be other then Tibet and China.  Besides I truely believe that Communist China has totally brainwashed their people.  Communist China needs to grow up and co exist on this planet with everyone.  Why are humans brutally hurting each other.  Its amazing, we must be the lowest form in the Universe if we act like this.  They are mad at the Dalai Lama for what reason?  Because he really wants to know.  The Dalai Lama is at peace and will always be including to China.  But China dont get it.  Hopefully they will realize what a big mistake they have created.  And yet we know that His Holiness will be so forgiving. Lets start creating Peace among ourselves.  We have such little time on this planet for warring over what?  Yes we forgive you China now open your hearts and see what gifts we all bear.  And yes like the Dalai Lama, I too support the Olympics.  
I'm an American expat living in Shanghai (for 18 months), and I had a strange experience last week when the entire staff of a small grocery store in which I was shopping refused to weigh my produce so that I could purchase it.  I stood my ground and eventually purchased my fruit, but later, my husband wondered aloud if they thought I was part of the "Cafferty" posse or possibly French, which apparently is a bad thing to be in China right now.  It was certainly unusual as my experience is usually one of polite, expedient service, at least at this particular establishment.
It's now Thursday the 24th April, the torch relay has just passed through Canberra and today it was Chinese "torch supporters" who were punching, kicking and hitting pro-Tibet protestors with flag poles, while the torch was carried around the course without incident. Clearly China has some way to go to calm down the current wave of aggressive Chinese nationalism.
I am Chinese in Canada. I love your article. It is subjective and written based on your observation. I see the spirit of a good reporter from your article.

Some western medias are subjective when reporting news or discussing affairs in their own countries. But when coming to those out of their countries, they are sometime or mostly not so subjective.

Take for example CNN or BBC's distorted reporting of My Great Country China and Our Great Place Tibet, I suspect they did so for kind of "fun", for attracting eyeballs, and for promotions and for money because saying bad about a country is much more interesting than saying bad about a group of people.

Osee Wood
HAHA, this is idiotic to the extreme. The words FREE SPEECH imply the abilty to talk about ANYTHING you want, whether it is good or bad for you, good or bad for your political affiliation, good or bad for your relgious affiliation, good or bad for your government and political system, goor or bad for your national pride or not, etc, etc.

There is no such thing as "FREE SPEACH AS LONG AS ..." Come on, for crying out loud, you are a reporter and a commentator, or so you would like to believe, so please write articles that express the true sense of what you are saying.

I am sure that in Venezuela there is plenty of FREE SPEACH TOO, as long as it is pro-him, and I am sure the same is the case in Korea, Cambodia and many of these other countries. Hey, must be wonderful to be a state-controller media outlet in those countries, all that free speach going on in them!!

Man, this is just pathetic and sad.
Following my last comments:

If someone really cares about what is happening in China, go there. If you really care about what is happening in Tibet, go there and ask randomly 100 people for questions you are interesting in.
Most people in the West don't even know the history of Tibet.  The West may have also missed a good opportunity  to bring the Chinese people to the Western influence.  Instead, the Chinese still remembered 100 years ago when eight western Nations invaded China & try to carve a piece for their own.  The fabrication of Tibet by the Western media will remind the Chinese the West is ganging on them again!!  What a shame to the "Freedom of the Press"-- only a slogan.
they have the most disgusting government of any people on Earth, next to our "friends" in the Middle East. They are so blind from not being able to make up their own minds, it's sad. Very sad.
It just shows that the Chinese propaganda machine is healthy and running.
To the people that have not been in China please paid a visit before you speak your mind.

From Taiwan.
I think that everyone should keep in mind that the olympics are about the sports, the atheletes, and the spectators, not politics. I have been to Beijing several times in the last year. The Chinese citizens are extremely proud that they are hosting the olympics, and have done a tremendous amout of work, to get ready. And this is all volunteer work, not compensated. China has made huge advances in many areas in a short period of time. The people there are proud of their country, their heritage, and of the olympics. I don't think the rest of the world should demean what they have accomplished. In China, just as every other country in the world, the government may do things that other countries government may not like. But that should not reflect on the citizens of that country. Let them show the world what they have done, and let them be proud of what they have accomplished, rather than put them down forthings they have no control over.
Everyone should study the Tibet history before making comment. It was a slavery system and ruled by Buddhist Monks. Its goes back  at least 500 years when Tibet  to be part of China, and certainly not just started on 1951.
Following is the full text of Dalai's1951 telegram to Mao:

"Chairman Mao of the Central People's Government:

"This year the local government of Tibet sent five delegates with full authority headed by Kaloon Ngapoi to Beijing in late April 1951 to conduct peace talks with delegates with full authority appointed by the Central People's Government.

"On the basis of friendship, delegates on both sides concluded the Agreement on Measures for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet on May 23,1951.

"The local government of Tibet as well as the Tibetan monks and laymen unanimously support this agreement, and under the leadership of Chairman Mao and the Central People's Government, will actively assist the People's Liberation Army in Tibet to consolidate national defence, drive imperialist influences out of Tibet and safeguard the unification of the territory and the sovereignty of the motherland. I hereby send this cable to inform you of this. “


Free speech is not "free" when only certain speech is permitted. If this wave of public sentiment was anti chinia the authorities would be taking strong steps to quash it especially now.
Thanks for the insightfull antedotes Mark, keep them coming. This is the kind of "behind the headlines" reporting we need to see more of it. It is more critical than ever for Americans to understand the point of view of people all over the world.


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