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Kosovo throws wrench into U.S.-Russian relations

Posted: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:38 PM
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MOSCOW – A generation ago, Checkpoint Charlie in Berlin defined the no-go zone between East and West. If you listen to Russian officials these days, that geopolitical schism has now shifted to the Serbia-Kosovo border.

On one side, Russia defends its nationalist proxy, Orthodox Serbians, who say they will never accept a non-Serbian Kosovo; on the other side, Kosovars – more than 90 percent of whom are Albanian Muslims – are backed in their desire for independence by the United States and most of Western Europe.

Russian warning
This new East-West gap should surprise no one who's watched and listened to Russia's take on Kosovo since June 1999.  

Then, just as Serb forces were involuntarily withdrawing from Kosovo, Russian President Boris Yeltsin ordered his general to take his troops – part of an international peacekeeping mission – and occupy the strategic airport in Pristina before NATO could get there.

Those Russian troops eventually re-joined the peacekeeping operation, but only after days of intense negotiations in Finland between U.S. and Russian officials. Most Serbs believed that Yeltsin had abandoned Serbia by acquiescing to NATO’s demands.

SLIDESHOW: Serbs protest Kosovo independence
 
For years, every time rumors of an Albanian declaration of independence for Kosovo were whispered in Pristina or Brussels or Washington, Moscow would weigh in, warning that such an illegal act could plunge the whole European continent into another spasm of violence. But no one seemed to take notice. 

Then Russia started to muscle up: President Vladimir Putin is no Yeltsin, and Russia under Putin has grown into an economic powerhouse, no longer afraid to throw its weight around. During Thursday’s massive rally against Kosovo independence, Serbian protestors were holding up posters of Putin, showing that they consider the Russian leader to be their chief ally in the current stand-off with the West

Fighting words
People inside Serbia and beyond are now taking notice of what Russia is saying. And for many in the West it's frightening.

On Friday, Russia's NATO envoy, Dmitiry Rogozin, warned that Russia might have to resort to "brute military force" if Europe recognizes an independent Kosovo. But in the same breath, Rogozin backed off some, suggesting that Russia would not to go to war over Kosovo. Still, many are asking, how did it come to this?

Russian analysts explain that the West – especially the United States – has fallen victim to a miscalculation which some equate to being as grave as the ill-advised invasion of Iraq. They say that the West has grossly underestimated the place Kosovo holds in the hearts of Serbs, no matter how many – or few – actually live there. As Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica said at the 200,000-strong rally in Belgrade on Thursday, "Kosovo is Serbia."  

This is not to be taken lightly. He used the same words almost 10 years ago when I spoke to him following his election as president of a new, seemingly moderate post-Milosevic nation. "Kosovo is the origin of Serbia," he told me. "We will never give it up." No one took much notice.

Pandora’s Box
Analysts here in Moscow also warn that the ripping of Kosovo from the Serbian province will open a Pandora's Box of potentially destabilizing ruptures all around the world: Chechens in Russia, ethnic Serbs in Bosnia, Russians in Moldova, Abkhazians in Georgia, Basques in Spain, just to name a few.

Would the United States defend these groups if they were to declare independence in violation of territorial integrity and international law, experts in Russia ask? If not, then why in Kosovo?

To define it in more familiar terms, Kosovo, for Serbs, is like a combination of Jerusalem and the Alamo: both the birthplace of its identity, forged in a bloody defeat at the hands of the Turks in 1389, and the crucible of its religious faith. Over the centuries, Russia has been Serbia's natural ally, sharing the Orthodox religion and the Cyrillic alphabet. But the United States also has been a trusted ally to Serbia through two world wars and other difficult times.

But strangely, friends of a friend can act like enemies. Just when it seemed like Russia and the United States were on the brink of what some consider a new Cold War, tiny Kosovo reared its head, caught the West's fancy for freedom and declared its independence – just as it promised it would. In the process, it triggered the kind of belligerent rhetoric we haven't heard from the Russian military in years.

Forget Checkpoint Charlie. Kosovo means hot zone.

Q & A: The history of strife in Kosovo
Key dates in Kosovo's drive for independence

Jim Maceda is an NBC New Correspondent based in London who covered the wars in Yugoslavia extensively during the 1990s. He is currently on assignment in Moscow. 

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Make no question about it, Russia is a bully, always has been, always will be.  They are ones that have recently threatened to point missiles at the Czechs, have orchestrated political assassination in London, shut off energy supplies to Georgia, have declared signed agreements void and are now threatening "brute military force." They also have no freedom of press and blame all negative events on the west.  Stalin would be so proud.  Well, let's make JFK proud, it is our rightful quest and the people's right to be free. If they want war, we will bury them once again.
A well reasoned and sobering analysis.  I only wish Mr. Maceda had offered his thoughts prior to the rush to recognition.  Perhaps someone would have listened.
The United States and a minority of countries in the EU that supported the breakup of Serbia violated the international law. The US is a bully, and Russia with the majority of the world behind it should put its weight against these violations. I guess the friendly US mask fell of the Comrade Wolf the US this time. Kosovo, Iraq, "orange" revolutions, blowing the international law to name just a few, these are all parts of the "US international policy". Oh well...
Kosovo is free!!! not the Russian version of freedom but the wests version of freedom. I for one am sick and tired of Russia threating violence every time something does not add up to their brand of oppression.Putin is much worse than Stalin.
The media is blinding you to the truth. Kosovo is part of Serbia. This is an invasion. Let me put this in layman's terms. Imagine Serbia is the US and Kosovo was Texas. One day the illegal Mexican immigrants gather and say there are now more Mexicans in Texas than Americans so we're going to take Texas and call it illegalland. The US is supporting the muslim side of this issue. Thank Bill Clinton for bombing the Christians on this. We should just bomb Israel if we're going down this path. Milosevic was a psycho but the Serbian christians should have our support on this.
If you really want to know why the Christian Serbs are upset over Kosovo, this web site has the answer.                                                          www.interfax-religion.com/kosovo/
PAT as a KOSOVAR ALBANIAN I WILL PROUDLY FIGHT WITH THE U.S.A FORCES, AND IN EUROPE MOST ALBANIANS WHO ARE NOW 7-8 MILLION STORNG WILL FIGHT WITH THE U.S.A FORCES. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND KOSOVA AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN FREEDOM...
Bravo, Mr. Maceda. You have written this very well. Russia, indeed, has long ties with Serbia, stronger than the United States unfortunately. Kosovo could be the spark that ignites an old flame, or war, between the two most nuclear equipped countries in the world. [also, perhaps, Kosovo holds more than what is said to be there..] Threat after threat, blame after blame, and accusation after accusation Vladimir Putin has increased tensions between the West and Russia dramatically. He flaunts Russia's military might(such as detonating the largest non-nuclear bomb ever recorded, and scrambling his long range bombers for "routine" flights) to influence not only the U.S., but West Europe as well. From 1945 to the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Cold War was paramount over all world matters. Shall it be re-lived? Shall our children go through it also? Questions too important to be looked over.. If such should happen will we be ready for it? Look to the future, but do not just wait, we must pick ourselves up out of the economic turmoil we wallow in and work together completely as a nation once again. I do not want to make John F. Kennedy just proud, I want to make him flip over in his grave.
Pat, who do you think you wil bury ? a Nation that has a president that is actually strong ? A Nation without 9 trilion in public debt and a military in shambles after 6 years of war in the desert left the US literaly with a worn out military machine ?
Against a nation with enormeous Oil and Gas reserves ?
I think the places of the US and Russia have switched, the one that was rich during the cold war is the one that is broke now and vice versa.. think before you speak my friend.
If you look at the Map of Servia and Kosovo you will find that they are actually in one piece of land.Like California and Nevada or Nevada to Arizona,or California to Arizona etc. We are all together.  Imagine if you can if one of the States wants a different form of government like communism. Will the rest of the States allow this to happen? I don't think so.
Hey, what about us, we want to be free as well! At least 90% of people would be for independence. Will US support us? Or you have two sets of rules: one for Serbs, and the other for everybody else in former Yugoslavia. Well, if it is so, don't think we will lay down and play dead; giving up freedom is not an option.
If the US can place missles in the Czech Republic and Poland, why can't Russia point missles in return?
Funny that as I read this column, I'm looking at a picture of a Tu-95 Bear that a colleague of mine shot back in the late 1980s when he was in the Air Force.  He was on an interdiction mission when they came across the Bear approaching Greenland.  They gently escorted it back East, but I look at it and wonder when we'll be doing this again.  Oh, we just did the other day.  The Cold War would be a nice break from all of this suicide bombing/uncoventional warfare.  At least the Russians are predictable, if nothing else.
the real solution is too reunite Yugoslavia to become one nation again.  
Ar we going to give Texas and the rest  of the sout if they ask or start shuting or our police.
Can we let the sam not to pay taxes like Albanians did at Serbia for last 20 years.
Think bifore you say anything ,bicouse world will turn aginst us like they did to Hitler.
Afther ocupaing the haf of the world ,as we do today.
The U.S. as always doesn't think ahead and realize there are other interests and viewpoints in the world. I'll be interested to see how supportive they'll be of other seperatist regions that have just as much merit as Kosovo.
I for one have never understood why we ever thought the Soviet Union was dead.  It just changed names and leaders but make no mistake, the Bear is still the Bear and it's growling again.  It's time for the Eagle to peck the Bear's ass!  The real enemy has always been the Soviet, I mean Russia.
We, in the USA are a country supposely dedicated to the idea of freedom. When people, anywhere on the globe that were once forced together, now want to go their own way, our country should support them. Freedom and democracy, will, in the long-run, benefit us all.
The U.S. would not have gotten involved with Kosovo had not "Clinton", (Bill), been caught with his pants down.  Butt, (no pun intended), Bill had to divert attention away from his, (extracurricular), activities..  Every time this situation appeared, impeachment, purgery, etc.  some little fellow on a donkey are camel had bombs dropped on them..... Bill went to Kosovo and dropped bombs on the Christians and supported the Muslims, Yea this was and still is a stupid idea.  King George has followed the lead of this "Prancer", or should I say, Dancer, Bill was good at skirting and unskirting the real issues.
All empires are alike. Make sure you understand that aggressive expansionistic Global Power Projection evident in building dozens of new military bases in Kosovo, Iraq and elsewhere to primarily support US Concealed Energy Grab such as now in Iraq will definitely cause more and more tension around the globe in the future. Hypocritical Double Standards for which US even have no support at home among the fast vanishing middle class, IS the main cause for current destabilization of world order, growth of Islamic Nationalism, hate of US and declining of US own economy we all watch in disbelief. Once upon a time US stood for individual freedom and privacy. The system took pride in developing strong middle class. Today US government spy on their own citizens, people chock in about $60,000 per capita consumer debt and fear their own government, while they watch the dollar sinks like a rock in the ocean and their standard along with it. Ultimately, with sharply declining dollar value and $ 9.3 Trillion Debt, US knows her power will begin to diminish, so they are making last effort grab policy their priority, before the Empire’s faith is sealed. It’s a pity! For more information on current state of US economy, visit official US www.gao.gov  web site.
Why is the U.S. encouraging (implicit or explicit) problems elsewhere, especially in areas that are not critical to our success?  Let's bring most of our troops and Dept. of State employees home!
Ignoring a 1,000 years of Balkan history, the outcome of two world wars, the deep feelings of the Serbian people and the long standing threat by Russia to use military force to support the Serbs could be called the most significant miscalculation of the 21st century bringing Europe to the brink of war.  One might ask how the United States and the European Union missed the point completely and deliberately set up a confrontation with the Serbs and the Russians.  Does anyone with an ounce of common sense or any insight into the history of the Balkans and the emotional ties the Serbian people feel towards Kosovo doubt that the "moderates" in Serbia will be swept away in this nationalist tide or that the Russians will go toe to toe with NATO and the EU if more Western troops are sent to Kosovo under any guise.  The Russians and the Serbs believe with a strong degree of support from other European countries that the actions taken by the Kosovars and supported in the West are provocative and an absolute violation of international law.  As such, they feel free to act with "brute force" to match what they perceive as an illegal power play by the West.  Our actions, and the threats by Secretary Burns, are do nothing to calm this very dangerous situation.  
I recall as a young Marine when the Berlin wall came down. Two intelligence officers in the room adjacent mine argued about whether the collapse was a deep Russian ruse. I knocked on their door and sat in on the conversation. I now believe the elder Marine, a Captain, was correct: The Russians simply needed time to recover financially, then move out again.
I wonder, are there prophecies from the Christians about a war?
Blah blah blah. Overexagerate why dont you. Whats Russia going to do, not sell it gas. Please/ serbia tried to exterminate the country, and now the overwhelming majority of kosovo does not want to be a part of that country. That sounds like a Democracy to me.
Our precipitous recognition of Kosovo independence will be another in the litany of foreign-policy disasters that Bush bequeaths to future presidents.  He continues with his messianic, infantile dream of planting democracy everywhere, and damn the realities of Afghanistan, Iraq, Russia, etc.  The fact is that Kosovo is a mafia state that has adopted democratic rhetoric simply to bewitch Bush the Fool.  These "democrats" now have legal license to do what they have done extra-legally: oppress and ethnically cleanse the 200,000 Serbs still living in their territory.  If Bush were truly interested in democracy, at the least we could have insisted on a carve-out of the largely Serbian enclave that borders on Serbia proper.  Nothing good will come of this, and in the bargain we've given more ammunition to the Russian revanchists pushing their country back into its traditionally hostile posture toward the west.  
I was in Belgrade on Friday, February 15 through Monday, February 18. Witnessed the signing of the Kosovo independence on Serbian television from the apartment I was staying in. On Saturday the 16th I stood on the fringe of a very peaceful demonstration in front of the French Embassy at the end of Knez Mihaila Street. I have been traveling to Serbia every two months for the past 18 months and the sights we are seeing on the news are horrifying but the violence is also being carried out by an extreme minority of Serbians. The people are warm, friendly, caring, and they want the same out of life that all American's want - freedom. Believe me, the Serbs don't understand the university shootings here at NIU or Virgina Tech anymore than we understand what is going on in their country.  
Nothing is going to happen. This is just an temporary artificial journalistic hype, now that Iraq seems to get quieter and not too "hot" to talk about or write about. Selling news starts with first "creating news", just like this one. Serbian propaganda about their "love" for Kosovo comes from nothing else but the immense underground richness of that particular now--independent-country. We are talking here about billions of tons of coal, aluminum, iron and gold. Yes, the world GOLD must wake up those who were so far sleeping. There is nothing unusual going on over there, just straight business! Whatever "side dishes" you see or hear on "news" is just smoke created to divert the attention from the real issue, remember: GOLD!!!
If anyone is a bully, it's the Usa !  how come we meddle in everyone's else's business ?  Greed, that's why !  So what do you expect ?   When other nations notice how Greedy we are ?
I say get out of everyone's business and concentrate on the problemds we have here at home !
Serbia and the independence-minded extremist touched off World War 1 - which led to World War 2 - which led to the Cold War. I don't understand why Kosovo's independence claim is more important to America and the West than good relations with a nuclear-armed Russia. This is beyond me.  
The US is once again in the middle of every one esles business.  Once again we should be focusing on our own mess in our our country.  What would we do if part of our own country wanted to succeed from the US and the world backed the succession.  Would we just stand by and let it happen while another country established a military presence in lets say Florida or Texas.  
Although I haven't decided on this issue, as I see the slippery slope here, one roader issue is that the West thought this was an unipolar world now and that it can do what it wants, as in Iraq/Afghanistan. Maybe there's only one 'real' superpower, but the rest of the world is not going to roll over and play dead. And I say good! I'm getting tired of the U.S. and its lackeys thinking they're going to run the world! The policy of Mutually Assured Destruction of the Cold War helped to reduce the number of wars, by making the U.S. think twice about aggression.
This disaster is nothing compared to the real and natural disasters the US will be going through.  If the US does elect a muslim president (Obama)  he will become a full blown muslim while in office.   This nation will be caught in a stranglehold between congress and the state that will be something out of a movie.

You will see the disaster that this anti-christ will bring because his claws will not be revealed until he gets into office.  But of course this was the first Pale Horse where the media (Pale Horse that Obama was riding into the white house) will be supressed for writing against him but it will be too late.  

Fear not for yourselfs but for your children cause you folks voted for him.  The anti-christ is amongst us.
I have some experience in the region, knowing the nature of the groups, I am not surprised that the Kosovars and Serbians have brought the U.S., NATO and Russia head to head over the issue of National Sovernty. The implications of the history of the region to the people of Serbia is as important as the Alamo is to Texas. But hey I'm not a policy wonk and some members of the State department as well as the President's people and Congress are at fault for this new tar baby being born.

Get ready for the next set of Balkan wars.
pat you only see what you want to see. I dont blame you but I do blame your government because that is how they want it. I will say you should be smart enough to know there is more to a story than one side. Or is that only available to americans. Remember this when you come to bury Serbia the garbage that you are protecting helped fund and partake in 9-11.KLA terrorists!
A well-reasoned analysis. What it misses, is that US policy in the Balkans is based on a Cold War mentality, which is miraculously still alive in DC.  Russia is bad, and every potential ally is bad too and all those that could be allies should be destroyed. Saudi Arabia and Turkey are allies meanwhile. One only needs to stop over in Moscow, which resembles Paris and New York, before going to Riyadh, a modern version of the Middle Ages, to realize how delusional US foreign policy has become. Finally, the great policy-makers in DC do not understand that Kosovo is not Bosnia or Montenegro in Serbian minds. It is more like Jerusalem. Did these people ever take history in high school or was it an AP that they could not get into? What a joke.
You have to think cold war all over again. If you were a suspicious sort, you would think, what would a world leader do to help the military complex out if he or she was on their way out of office? 100 billion dollars in weaponry to the middle east, two wars going on in asia,and yet another hot spot for NATO(Serbia).
To Pat:

And the United States is not a bully?
If after reading Pat from Philly's response, anyone is interested in an alternate take, try going here:

http://www.whatswrongwiththeworld.net/
Pat from Phily, I agree with you except the part where you say "if they want war, we will bury them once again." Can our nation really handle another war, I don't think so, and especially with a nation like Russia.  This whole war talk has to stop now.  I am serving in Iraq right now, and war is horrible.  I believe in what I am doing, but war itself is horrible.  I hate hearing people say let's go to war, who cares.  War means death and suffering, and its horrible and unnecessary.  Let's solve this problem diplomatically, yes it might take awhile but at least  lives will not be lost.
I want to know why is the threat of physical combat the only solution? Why can't each party compromise, acquiesce; section the country; do whatever it takes to end violence in the area in which they live. If you use the same tactics that you have always used then nothing changes, evolution doesnt occur. And isnt that what everyone wants in that area. Why arent the powers that be offering that advice, the knowledge, selling that to those people instead more death, more crumbling infrastructure, more children lost, more parents lost, more families in crisis.
Why dont the powers that be offer these people suggestions that they will accept or acquiesce to
that will lead these people to a future.
The problem is this: too many in America only understand the jingoistic nonsense that its current politicians bandy about as fact. Here's a fact: America likes to believe that everyone on this planet wants to be like us. T'aint so folks. We tolertate good Communists in China because without them WalMart would be empty. If we were pricipled we would do what we do to Cuba but our poltical policies are hypocritcal hogwash and everyone knows it. Not to put to fine a point on it, recognizing Kosovo in the manner that America and SOME European Union countries have will cause make many innocents pay a very high price. Its so easy for Americans in their comfortable homes to to this.  
I can't understand why this whole thing was rushed so quickly by the EU and The US, they didn't even try to make sure that simple things like: the rights of women, drug trade, human traffiking, and protecting and restoring UNESCO world heritage sites, and last but not least repatriate all the non-albanians who were thrown out of Kosovo during the 90's. I think if it was so important to make Kosovo an independant state because of the violence of the past, they should have included the all minorities in the mix as well, allowing there to be resentatives for each ethnic group in Kosovo, and work on integration. At the moment Kosovo is very homogenous, there needs to be more multiculturalism. I don't think Americans would ever allow Kosovo to return to the Serbs, since they now is this 'huge' millitary complex there, called Bondsteel, and I imagine the first things Serbs would do is say "get out".
If someone doesn't stop the madness that is war we may soon experience some terrible things in the near future.
did everyone know that half of serbia  was kosovars land but serbia took it, but not anymore because kosova is now indenpendence, ha ha ha to serbia.
I find it hilarious that Serbia considers Kosova the birthplace of their identity even though their identity was born fighting against Turks on ALBANIAN land, alongside ALBANIANS.  Kosova is Dardania, Dardania is Illyria, Illyria is Albania.  
Unfortunately, this shows once again how our (US) diplomats skipped the (shallow) history classes. For those interested in more reading start with the battle of Kosovo in 1389. That way you can make an educated comment.

How would you people feel if, let's say, Texas were to secede and eventually join Mexico?

Yep, we just made friends with another nation, haven't we?
We are the last ones to judge someones elses internal use of brute force.  we are at war and gladly using brute force
How about Independence for Kashmir in the south asian sub-continent? They deserve it as much as any other people.
It is ridiculous behavior on the part of the Serbs to burn the US Embassy.  They are still angry about the Clinton ordered bombing of Belgrade.  Kosovo deserves to be free--both politically and religiously.  Make no mistake, Russia is overstepping its boundaries with regard to the United Nations and I feel another civil war is at stake in the Balkan region.
Dear Pat, from Philadelphia: Russia and Serbia have never invaded other countries. All their wars were self-defensive. It seems to me, young Western countries (or rather, economic conglomerates) will never learn to respect old, peaceful nations and their religious and cultural needs... What happened on 17 February 2008 is the end of the world order as we know it, and possibly, the beginning of WW3 (which I hope, and believe, to be final). As you may know, the previous two World Wars were initiated by the newly united German tribes, who thus proved their barbaric mentality and genuine inability to grow into mature nation. Now, US and EU are sponsoring genocidal, violent movements all over the world. After NATO bombing of Kosovo, in 1999, over 200,000 Serbs were expelled from their territories (!), while, at the same time, the number of ethnic Albanians significantly increased!? The Albanians mostly rely on drug business. So, it truly is sad to watch all those Western citizens being blinded by their comfort, uninterested in politics and decisions made by their governments. They shouldn't "pay the price", but it is their irresponsibility which leads them to that situation. Russia and US have never been in direct military conflict, this "battle" is yet to happen, and I predict it will happen in the next 4-5 years. Unfortunately for the US, the world's oldest and biggest nations, such as China and India, will certainly back up Russia in this conflict. My point is: stick to your own land and resources! No one threatened the Germans, or Americans... Their existence was not endangered in any way... Yet, they involve and attack independant countries. I mean, it's bad for them.


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