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Militants hail Bhutto attack on Web site

Posted: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:47 PM
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By Charlene Gubash, NBC News Producer

Not everyone was displeased to see more than one hundred Pakistani citizens dead on the streets of Karachi on Thursday.  Most of those who commented on the suicide bombings on a popular pro-militant Internet site called EkHlaas greeted the news with postings of “God is great!” 

“This woman promised the United States to fight Islam and allow the U.S. to interrogate the father of the Pakistani nuclear weapons.  God is great, thank God, the Mujahideen (holy warriors) Taliban said they would shoot her,” posted one visitor under the name Meskin.
“I hope she will be destroyed and this is the last page for Musharraf.  I hope they will all be burned,” a visitor named Abbas said.

Even before the attack, one contributor posted a hauntingly accurate predication:  “Today Bhutto will return to Pakistan and has announced she will allow the U.S. troops, so the suicide bombers are having a rendezvous with her today,” wrote Mohenid Saram. “If not today, after a week, or a month, but reaching her before she reaches power will be easy and the mujahideen (holy warriors) will not spare an effort.”

One sole voice stoked an angry debate when he stood against the attack: Tarek al Shamri called it a ‘crime’ that killed hundreds of Muslims and described the perpetrators as “infidels.”  He questioned whether the CIA was behind it. 

Others quickly rebuked him by saying the attack targeted a tyrant, her guards and supporters, and not innocent Muslims.  Argued Abu Rayan al Ansari, “If you call it a crime, it is not a crime.”

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This just proves yet again the already proven fact that these people will kill each other for no better reason than the color of a flower. Just leave and let them kill each other.

bax, florida (Sent Friday, October 19, 2007 6:33 PM)

The terrorists think that God revolves around them and that God is all about satisfying their selfish ambitions. They don't care who dies, who suffers, or who loses family. They think that is how God thinks. They think God is their slave, and they do not care about honestly observing any kind of integrity. I hope their self-righteous hypocricy is paid to them as it is said "by your own measure will you be judged".

Name Withheld Obviously (Sent Friday, October 19, 2007 6:38 PM)

I don't support assassinations nor am I a so-called Islamic fascist (in fact I'm Jewish), but anyone who supports the U.S. crimes in that part of the world deserves the worst.

Irwin, Thousand Oaks, CA (Sent Friday, October 19, 2007 6:40 PM)

We are told that Islam is a religion of peace. So why is it that Shiites and Sunnis murder each other with glee? Why does Islam hate Jews and Christans? Islam demamnds that the whole world respect their religion, but they do not respect other religions or even themselves. It would appear, that their hatred and intolerance is built in to their religious and political system.

Ray Dunbar Dixon Calif. (Sent Friday, October 19, 2007 6:52 PM)

Iraq is not the country the world should fear.  Iran is not the country the world should fear.  Nuclear Pakistan is the country to fear.  Watching her destabilize should be a wake up call to the buffoons in the Bush administration misdirecting policy in the region.

David Johnson (Sent Friday, October 19, 2007 6:55 PM)

radical islam is no different than facism. look back 70 years to the italian effort. different clothes, same result. Spineless thugs they are, willing to kill defenseless people. They live in the shadows, afraid to openly debate or defend their concepts. At some point all decent societies will stop them.They will be removed like a cancer. Look at their actions, Barbarians, animals.

bo (Sent Friday, October 19, 2007 6:57 PM)

To all those whatever they want to call themselves just remember you screw with the US and its allies and you suffer the rath of our military boys. You can run but you will never ever be able to hide.

TLight San Diego CA (Sent Friday, October 19, 2007 7:09 PM)

I hope she allows the US to enter Pakistan.  It's about time we start mopping up some of these cowards!!!

Tim Bell, Las Vegas, NV (Sent Friday, October 19, 2007 7:45 PM)

All you people are idiots to think that God condones your violence against innocent civilians is pure ignorance.Read your holy book again .God hates violence & Hates anyone who uses his name while commiting violent acts.....Stop now or face God's Wrath.

Ben in Texas (Sent Friday, October 19, 2007 8:11 PM)

Musharif let these Islamic radicals live and thrive in Pakistan now the chickens are coming home to roost. Moslems now are feeling the sting from these blood thirsty parasites. Until Islam can purge itself of this vermin which has found a hiding place in thier mosques they will never wash the blood off thier own faces.

Steven Hoegen,North Andover, Mass. (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:24 AM)

who need enemy when people kill their own people!!human being is the most dangerous when he thinks God is on his side and he even justifies evil deeds using God's name.

christopher (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 5:31 AM)

The Islamic fundamentalists fear democracy because it would give women equal status under the law and this is unacceptable to moslems. They will kill everyone who threatens this male dominated seventh century concept which gives them absolute control over the women in thier society. Anything modern which may put ideas of equality in a womans mind is feared and labled as corrupt. Only seeking out and identifying these radicals exposing their backward belief to ridicule and the absurdity in this vision can they ever hope to be free of it.

Steven Hoegen,North Andover,Mass. (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:41 AM)

I hope she lives long enough to do some good over there. Unfortunately for whatever decent people there are over there they are outnumbered by the suicidal maniacs who are taking over all of Islam.

steven hoegen,north andover,mass. (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:49 AM)

Dear Charlene, Former Prime Minister Bhutto is attempting to bring peace amongst the people and it is so very sad that terror groups want to stop her from doing such things. There are always those who disagree with certain ideas, but in this region the results always end up hurting so many people. I hope in the future she can bring stability to the people and region. Peace to all!  

Lisa McNeil,Alpharetta,Georgia (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 11:40 AM)

It is easy to criticise others, what about your own history, shootings your own presidents and leaders,ordinary students, black peoples. because you think you are god's gift on this earth. killing inocent civilians in Iraq. just to control the oil. take a good look at yourselve before throwing stones.

habib .uk. (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:00 PM)

It is easy to criticise others, what about your own history, shootings your own presidents and leaders,ordinary students, black peoples. because you think you are god's gift on this earth. killing inocent civilians in Iraq. just to control the oil. take a good look at yourselve before throwing stones.

habib .uk. (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:02 PM)

The unsettling part of this is that this country posseses nuclear weapons. Talk about a ticking timebomb.

Christian, Charlotte, NC (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:23 PM)

Just like in Iraq, the extremeists in Pakistan are their own worst enemy.  Their excesses carried out in the name of God eventually aliienate them from & undermine their support by the vast majority of Islamic people that just don't share that radical of a viewpoint.

Greg Palermo (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:11 PM)

You know I am tired of the uninformed jibberish of some (like Ray Dunbar of Calif) who say that the killing is inbuiltinto the Islamic religion. Well, Sunnis and Shia's have not been killing each other as long as Catholics have been killing Protestants and vice versa. As an Englishman, I remember that it was not long ago that "Catholic IRA believers" left bombs to kill "Protestant Heathens" and (again) vice versa. Does that mean that the desire to kill is inbuilt into the Christian religion? Of course not! Loonies are loonies, Muslim, Jewish, Christian or any other religion you care to think of! When will you bigots and racists understand that killers are killers and kill under the guise of "holiness" regardless of their religion. Grow up and talk about the real issues for Gods sake!!

Troy (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:14 PM)

Mr Hoegen, Islam is no more being taken over by homicidal maniacs as is Christianity. These Islamic lunatics kills hundreds. We arm countries with weapons at the behset of our religious homicidal maniacs and kill thousands. The only difference between the late Mr Falwell, Mr Robertson and Mr Sadr is their dress and spoken language. Otherwise their messages are exactly the same. "We are Gods people, chosen and special. We have the right to do what we want to whomever we want and we are right because God is on OUR side." I cannot tell the difference between the two. As a european, I am lucky to be able to get uncensored and unbiased news - unlike you here in the US. I see uncensored what your "Righteous Religious Leaders" really say. And, as I said, it is no different to Mr Sadr in Iraq.  

Troy (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:21 PM)

As the religion Islam spreads the message of Peace and harmony so does Pakistan a moderate and enlightened country trying to succeed and overcome the forces of stoneage era.
The so called militants are neither serving the cause of islam nor the humanity.They will burn themselves in the self ignited fire of hatred.We need to support the moderate forces who have taken a challenge not to surrender to those tyrants.
Lets not forget those precious 140 souls and numerous injured who stood for moderation and democracy as solid rocks and challenged the suicide bomber and his cowardly mission.
God save Pakistan and God save the world and give us the strength to fight these scruplous enemies of humanity.

Jimmy Warsi, Katy, Texas (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:38 PM)

Most of you people are missing the point. Benazir has been the most corrupt ex-premier of pakistan. In her two stints, it is estimated that she has taken away close to $2 billion dollars of money out the country. She is also one of the most hated politicians in pakistan. She already had two stints as premier. Pakistani constitution states that there is no 3rd term as premier for a politician. So, my question to you americans is that why are you forcing this person on pakistan.
Now coming down to allowing american forces into pakistan, when they had the chance, they let him slip through Tora Bora and a couple of previous occassions, they were waiting too long to strike on known targets. America cannot win the war in that region by alienating pakistani public. Pakistan will go only so far in helping the U S.The U S needs to increase its millitary strength in afghanistan, possibly another 30 to 40 thousand troops, so that the borders can be keenly watched from both sides.
Coming back to Benazir, she was told about the attacks and yet she flaunted at the security arrangements. It took her caravan 13 hours to travel 5 miles and there were still ten miles to go. Her carriage was stopped at the time of attack. Think about it---would ane american presidential candidate would put himself or herself in that predicament. There is police statement in pakistani papers that two of the vehicles which had jammers installed, had their antenaes broken by the rowdy crowd.  

W Ahmed, Beaumont, CA (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:45 PM)

A very big and dirty game is being played by the powers who are slowly and gradualy spreading web against Pakistan. Islam shouldnt be blamed for that... Islam is for peace and whoever uses Islam for these acts are actually misguided and influenced by some illiterate mullahs...

Wahab Jameel (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:51 PM)

benazir promised american authorities that she will handover dr. qadeer khan to american authorities for investigation. further, hand over osama benladin when she becomes prime minister.that is her hidden agenda. roti, kapra and makan and uplift poor  are smoke screen to befool illiterate and ignorant. the government has made a deal and promised her prime ministership under duress from bush and american establisment. how long can you befool mssses when you talk of FREE AND FAIR ELECTION when you have decided who should be chosen P.M. is this not cheating the public. there are criminal charges against these leaders of money laundering, corruption and looting the public money. what type of democracy is it.it is worse than the THIRD WORLD (election of bush - rigging of votes in FLORIDA).what has happened in pakistan is just a forewarning.if they don't take a clue from this, then there is worst in store. islam does not play a role in this.people do not want to see benazeer, nawaz shareef or altaf hussain connected with politics in pakistan. they have swindled pakistan to its limit.

mir,toronto,canada (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 5:19 PM)

How do Muslems feel when they see their religion used as the basis for these acts? Obviously the Koran is being misued, but the Madrassas feed their students this text and only this text as they prepare them for a society based only on religious beliefs. What a terrible tragedy for them and the world that they will populate.

Paul Teicholz, New York, NY (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:09 PM)

Hiding beneath their cloak of religious fundamentalism, the Taliban and their ilk destroy and denegrate their fellow Muslims.  The epitome of their hipocracy is that they destroy paintings and other artwork depicting animate objects yet they gladly pose for photos and TV bytes as they display their AKs, RPGs and RPKs exposing themselves as the thugs and criminals they truly are. M & B know what they must do - crush every last one of them - there are no 'peace pact' possibilities with these human vermin.  Their total annialation will have to come from the general populace and the families of those destroyed and denegrated rising against them with every resource available. Forgiveness and mercy should have no bearing while doing so. The sooner the better.  

J Russell, NC (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:18 PM)

Pakistan deserves what it's getting, like someone else already said...their chickens are coming home to the roost.  Pakistan created the Taliban, they let Al Queda use it's territory when both those groups were fighting in Afghanistan.  Pakistan created and fully supported militant groups that fought in Kashmir, India.  All these militant groups lost in Afghanistan and Kashmir and now have returned to Pakistan and have turned on their own people.  They will keep fighting unless they are totally crushed but I don't see that happening any time soon in Pakistan, for these militants have the sympathy of many officers in the Pakistani military and since the military runs that country, nothing will happen to the militants.  The U.S. should somehow move in to that country and take care of Al Queda and grab the Nukes from there.

Joe Smoh (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 6:36 PM)

U.S. should have never backed Al Qaida and Usama when they were fighting to keep afghanistan free against russian occupation now look at what those weapons have done (al qaida) killed innocent Pakistanis !

n/a texas (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 7:31 PM)

I'm not sure where these radicals got their "version"
of the quran, but the one that I perused didn't read
the way they say it does. The quran is a beautiful
piece of literary art. Somebody must have gone and
re-wrote the way they wanted to see it so as to just-
ify their extreme radicalism.

tom, tecumseh Mich. (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 8:16 PM)

As per claim of the terrorists and fundamentalists "when one of them dies in suicide attacks he goes to heaven and greeted by Allah". That heaven would be no different than hell and earth? Killers, murderes and terrorists would be in each place. Why would one be bothered to go to such heaven?

Pat M. Edmonton, AB, Canada (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:15 PM)

What the Bush Administration is thinking? Do they think that they can turn Pakistan in to a democratic country? They are fooling the American public. Neither Pakistan, Iraq nor Afghanistan will ever be democratic countries. How many democratic Islamic countries Bush can count?

Sulekha Raj, New Delhi, India (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:22 PM)

just a note muslim killing muslim.fight from inside the mosque.having guns and bombs in the holy place.storing weapons inside the mosque.who is condoning the action of these brothers.someone needs to step up

doc ,dallas,texas (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:31 PM)

After 60 yrs this was the natural destination of pakistan if anytone understood what Pakistan was all about at that time. This is not surprising. The worry is an unstable Pakistan without Mushar. , but then Pakistan has been the epicenter of nuclear blackmarket and terrorism (incl. state spons.) since 1989, and like the US has a first use policy. Half of 160 million people are potential extremists. And this is at every level  and institution. There is no good option for this mistake, but the best bet is Musharaf.
Iraq and Iran are making the headlines only because of the U.S.  Pakistan is making the headlines anyway.
In countries where Islam is the adopted religion ie pakistan, iran, there are great societal problems, which you don't see in Arab countries. This is so because societies regressed with Islam but are taught Islam was the best option. Also, people  have to choose between their gut feeling and their islamic correctness, which is right. But the gut feeling is usually right?! This is the dilemma.

Jon S. NY , NY (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:37 PM)

Hey you terrorists, you think you can advance your brutal cravings for whatever you want by murdering innocent people who have nothing to do with your sick, twisted interpetation of your religion? Going to heaven for cruelly beheading someone's head or blowing off someone's head in a suicie bombing because that person wanted democracy and nothing else that wold be coutner to Islamic values? Are you trying to reform Islam into a religion of worshipped by criminals and hate mongers? If so, you better be careful before you die of psychological illness due to your twisted way of thinking and your twisted emotional state as if the devil resides within you. You know, the Prophet Mohammed did not command you to kill innocent people on grounds they advocated democracy and peace.

gmussie9@msn.com (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:29 PM)

God bless the Bhutto government and God bless democratic-socialism. Remember the motto:"Islam is our religion, democracy is our politics, socialism is our ecomonics." Down with the Taliban; Pakistan for the People!  

Socialist-International (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:49 PM)

Benazir is a rebel of not only the Muslim world but also of Pakistan. All she wants is to become a Pak ruler at any cost. Those who are passing so much sympathetic statements in favor of Benazir Bhutto here and against Islam and Muslims, I have a question for them. Would you pass on the same kind of sympathies and favors for your own national leaders if they also start talking against your country, religion, national heroes, try hailing foreign invasions or surrendering national sovereignty? Think in that perspective also and you will find reasons behind these hatred reactions.

By the way hasn't US been the biggest massacre in the world today killing millions of innocent people (including women and children) all around the world for no reason but in the name of "fight against (so called) terrorism”, all this happening through state sponsored terrorists wearing US army uniforms. None in the world has ever launched Nuclear bomb except the great America and its still a peace keeper, what an irony.

Bush, Santa Clara, CA (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:52 PM)

You reap what you sow. Musharraf and his terrorist army was all along sending terrorists to India for Jihad in Kashmir. Now these terrorists are back in Pakistan to haunt Musharraf.

Andrew,covina,ca (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 10:55 PM)

let them kill each other over there, just keep them away from killpng us. they will never stop from trying to destroy freedom and democracy, it is too much of a threat to their malehood

jai ganpat, east orange, n.j. (Sent Saturday, October 20, 2007 11:45 PM)

It is nothing but a drama, planned and implemented by Benazir herself and its party to gain support and symphathy from the uneducated and poor people of Pakistan. It is she and her party who killed the innoncent that came to welcome her.....DIRTY ACT  

Sorry (Sent Sunday, October 21, 2007 12:48 AM)

After Muslim militants can't cross borders, they kill their own people.  Keep tight borders and after they kill enough of their "brothers" the Muslims will start to deal with it.  At least the Islamic world calls the miscreants "terrorists" now - a few years ago, they were considered "freedom fighters".  They've been killing each other for 1400 years (since Mohammed died) but I hope it stops soon for the benefit of the peaceful Muslims.  There's no way "the West" can be blamed for this - it's a war between good and evil and I don't think God/Allah appreciates these nutjobs saying He helps them kill people - I wouldn't want to be in the same religion as people who say that.

Chris, St. Louis MO (Sent Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:35 AM)

Seems the 138 Islamic scholars should be concentrating on getting peace within Islam before sending letters trying to "patch things up" with Anglicans.  I haven't read any stories about Anglicans setting off bombs in Muslim countries.  

Chris (Sent Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:41 AM)

Its not moslems... its "Muslims"

RR, Houston,TX (Sent Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:21 AM)

I wonder how many people posting here are over 40 yrs of age.  It is sad to see so many people in America judging when they need to go back and look at their own history.  Government experiments (Tuskeegee Experiment), racial injustice, hate crimes (murders, bombings of churches, torture, etc.), Willie Lynch, and many other actions America acts like never happened. Please look in the mirror if you are over 40 and have some intellect of history before you open your mouth about others.

Holding the mirror in your face (Sent Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:41 AM)

Religion has historically been the excuse to kill hundreds and thousands of innocent human beings. The Muslims especially have some introspection to do because of their idiotic, stupid thinking concerning what is GOD and their collective behaviors concerning REVENGE! Muslims have been disturbing the Judeo-Christian World for centuries now, driven by their belief that everyone should die if he or she doesn't believe in the REVENGE of ALLAH! I am neither Christian, Jewish or Muslim. I have studied the attrocities of all of the religions. What I have learned is that RELIGION itself is the bain of human existence! MUSLIMS NEED TO GET EDUCATED, WAKE-UP, GROW-UP AND SHAKE-UP their own kind to recognize their abominal behavior will in-fact be the driving force behind their own collective demise!

Jack Powers, Gainesville, FL (Sent Sunday, October 21, 2007 1:15 PM)

i think all these comments about islam from other readers is out of ignorance: what happens in reality is not always islamic just like all christian / jewish criminals are not criminals because of christianity / judaism : & majority opinion in the muslim world very moderate but doesnt make headlines; the author is glorifying these so called muslims who preach and promote hate by writing about their web page and about their comments and i suggest the media and press should take responsibility for making these idiots popular and attributing their evil bahavior to the most perfect religion in the world "ISLAM" which means peace:

arshy, anaheim, CA (Sent Sunday, October 21, 2007 1:35 PM)

correction in the article is needed : the author is incorrect about Ms. Bhutto allowing the US interrogating the chief nuclear scientist because it has never happened since its well known that he is highly regarded in PAKISTAN and it was under Musharraf government when he was charged with selling nuclear know how to n korea, libya, and iran : so as far as my knowledge goes you are misleading the readers

arshy, anaheim, ca (Sent Sunday, October 21, 2007 1:39 PM)

I think it is the matter of knowing the fact that no body can remove muslims from this world, they are 2nd larges religous force of this world and even in america it is the fastest growing religon ,so if all muslims are terrorest so why it is spreading with such a pace. the real thing is that we should analyze pakistan position not in religous prespective but i political prespective and see it was america which build tabliban in Gen.Zia time and Gen were the person who hanged the great Leader and Father of Banazeer i.e Bhutoo. Who was the real leader of pakistan therefore only saying that muslims are wrong that not fair , i thing all those who created taliban to fight against USSR are blamed for this. and not only pakistan's nuclear program is thread but more than that israel nuclear program

asad karachi , sindh (Sent Sunday, October 21, 2007 5:52 PM)

It just shows the hatred in the hearts of those who believe that their cause is thr right one.  GOD whether they call him ALLAH or JESUS is a loving GOD, who will not tolerate killing of innocents in HIS name. Many twist the teachings of their religions to justify themselves. If they study they will see that they have been going down the wrong path.  Evil is Evil.  Muslims should open their eyes and see for themselves.

Hector (Sent Monday, October 22, 2007 12:33 AM)

Thanks to the current administration's moronic policies, it is imposible for an Arab or Muslim leader to be pro-US and expect to live or expect the citizens of that country to enjoy a quality of life.

This is what Bush was warned would happened and what he totally ignored.  It is not the terrorists destabilizing the Middle East, it is us.  The terrorists are simply taking advantage of it.  Anybody with a brain could see this coming which explains why the administration did not.

jorge (Sent Monday, October 22, 2007 7:36 AM)

Yeah it's Islam that's the problem. Becuase if you go to far right websites after a doctor who performs abortions gets killed, you definately WON'T see people talking about how great it is, how it's God's work etc. Give me a break with the Islam is evil thing. Throughout history Christians have killed more people than today's muslim terrorists could even hope to kill.

Jeff, Philly (Sent Monday, October 22, 2007 7:38 AM)



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