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Iraqi refugees weighing down Syria

Posted: Friday, September 21, 2007 3:22 PM
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DAMASCUS, Syria – To hear about the millions of refugees from Iraq is one thing. To see them, and speak to some of them, is quite another. All have tales of chaos and death.

It is a refugee crisis unlike any other in modern times.

There are no dramatic pictures of massive camps with UNHCR tents lined up row after row. No starving children waiting for food hand-outs. 

That's because the estimated 1.5 million Iraqis who have flooded into Syria have melted into Damascus's already crowded streets. They live wherever they can, whole families crammed into tiny, seedy apartments with only the most basic of provisions.

VIDEO: Plight of Iraqi refugees

According to the UNHCR, they are mostly middle class. Nothing has prepared them for the life as a refugee. Many have already used up their life savings.

While Syria has generously welcomed them, and gives them access to education for the children and subsidized health care, they do not have residency rights nor are they allowed to work.

Children bear the burden
The result? Many children are becoming the family breadwinners because they can slip more easily under the radar.

We met Youssef, 15, in a hole-in-the-wall grocery store in a Damascus laneway. He says he works 12 hours a day, seven days a week. He's been doing that ever since his mother, brother and sister fled Baghdad in 2004. They left after Youssef's older brother was shot and killed. His father died seven years ago.

So Youssef is effectively head of the household. He's remarkably cheerful, with bright brown eyes and an eager smile. I asked him what his dream for the future is. He told me he wants to go to university and become a doctor. Still so much hope, even though odds are he's probably not going to finish high school, never mind make it to university.

A potentially destabilizing force
The longer these child refugees linger in limbo, stateless and poor, the more likely they'll grow up angry and undereducated. A generation of Iraqis who feel alienated and disillusioned is hardly what the Middle East or the world needs.

The Syrians can see the dangers looming. Dr. Bashar Shaar, Syria's minister for Red Crescent Affairs, told me not only are the refugees a massive strain on the country's infrastructure, their presence could destabilize not only Syria, but the whole Middle East in the future. It is, he said, a ticking time bomb.

Ensuring the children of Iraqi refugees are cared for and get back in school seems as vital to the stability of region as fighting insurgents in Iraq.

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I just wanted to mention how fascinating this "World Blog" is.  It's a great and diverse personal look on current affairs, and often of news that gets shoved under the table.  Thank you!
Dear Dawna, It just seems to become worse and worse for the people of this region. I feel so very badly for the young man named Youssef who at only 15 has to support the family. With the loss of his father and brother he has already suffered so much at such a young age. His dream of becoming a doctor seems bleak now, yet one does hope that he can escape the hardships of the region and receive and education. I agree with the statement that the Middle East does not need more "alienated and disillusioned" generations of people. This region cannot benefit from more angry and undereducated people. This conflict has caused too much suffering to too many people. I really hope peace can be the norm someday for its citizens. Peace to all!  
Thank you for this excellent report.  The plight of these refugees doesn't seem to be getting much "press" or attention from political leaders of our country.

Young men like Youssef who struggle each day just to find food for their families are ripe for exploitation by terrorists who recruit them with promises of greatness.  

If the UN and other world relief agencies don't do something to help these people, we will see children turned into suicide bombers and radical militants for years to come.

Could you post links to charities that are trying to help?

It is really a pity all those people having to suffer from radical life changes, uprooting even loved ones losses.
And all of that was based on fear, fear from Saddam, fear from "massive destruction weapons"
The good side of the story is that U.S. is getting oil from Iraq.
The bad side is all the injustice.
The worst part is all those Al-Qaeda terrorists disguised as Iraqi refugees seeking to enter U.S.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN BUSHS SECRET ARMY POSING AS SECURITY GUARDS
Dear Ms.Dawna Friesen,

Muslim around the world are observing the Holy month of Ramadan, a time for fasting and spiritual purity during which Muslims refrain from eating and drinking from down until dust. American war in Iraq is not ending. Tens of thosands innocent Iraqis lost their lives in this unpopular war.

Our Hon'ble president has shown no indication that he would consider a timetable. I think now our congress must use it's power of the purse to fix this dire situation immediately. Withdrawal of foreign forces is the first step to ending the countrie's discord. America has not achieved from this war since our president invaded Iraq.!!!!!
Even though it is a sad thing to read about one has to question why then does Syria not shut down it's borders to to the criminals that go into Iraq?It is one thing to feel bad about many of these poor people but quite another not to ask the question HOW THIS POOR BOYS FATHER AND BROTHER DIE AND WHY DID IT HAPPEN TO THEM. I mean what are the odds of the two older male members of this family to die accidentally. And who killed them??I can't help but feeling that the under score to this is that our military did the killing.Or do you believe that this family had a bout with bad luck?What is happening is terrible but let's not be so ready to take the blame for everything bad that happens. We are not the ones targeting CIVILIANS.
Did Syria not support Saddam Hussien?

Karma, baby, karma
I love the comment asking why Syria does not close its border with Iraq. Look at our country, we are a superpower and we cannot close our border. If sealing the border was possible, the U.S. military would have done it themselves.

Neither Syria or the U.S. is capable of sealing the Syrian border. A more educated American would know this already though.
I find it interesting that the insurgents say " we want the Allies to leave Iraq" and yet, if everything had settled down we would have been long gone. I can only surmise that they keep up these attacks because they really want us to stay !!
I believe that the responbsibility for the massive Iraqi refugees crisis is America's problem. If this report is any where near correct, then the ultimate problem will be the disgruntled citizens that will turn to extremist to find the answers. If this is the case then the United States will be in for a long war in Iraq, but also may be more vulnerable in the future.
To all good hearted people of the world, this story enables us to feel for this young man and his family, knowing full well that you muntiply this person by several million and you have a real tragedy in the region. However, let's not forget that Syria, Iran, and several other neighboring countries are fueling the situation by funding the insurgency by sending their fighters, money and weapons to the area. Should the US and other forces be removed ASAP, of course but only after the conditions on the ground be condusive to peace in the region. Did the US and others make a mistake by invading Iraq, without a dought but now the situation is a trajedy of major proportions and premature departure of foriegn forces from the area will only make things much worse by allowing terroists, criminals and other international interests to come in and further kill in the name of their religion, money or poletical interests.  If you have a fire you, regardless of how it started, you don't leave it when you know that someone is waiting in the area to pour more fuel into it and turn into a full inferno.  This region of the Middle East will always have wars and rumers of wars, without consideration of the people that suffer the consequences of what results from such wars. Nothing will change until people around the world will finally stop the insanity of wars and work to lasting peace between all humanity; not through religion, selfish poletics but through respect, dialoge, faith and most of all love. I don't see it happening in this life time.

R Lawrance - New Mexico
Syria is getting rather less trouble than it deserves.  There wouldn't be refugees if it had adopted a cooperative attitude.
I love it! we should put all the good iraq's on ship nuke the country then bomb the ships.  We also need to ensure Hillary/Obama/Edwards/Gore and most of all Bill is on these ships along with every liberal idiot.
Seems to me that rather than letting millions of illegal Mexicans have free immigration "rights" and planning to make citizens of them even after they broke our laws entering, we ought to kick them right out, and bring in these and similar refugees and ease their pains; I suspect if we show them that the US really cares, asnd they see our freedoms expressed in our caring, they would be much better citizens than illegal Mexicans and the other people they bring in with them!

But our Immigration is so messed up with Politics and filled with incompetants that it takes 6 years to get anybody in who does not have political pull or lots of money, no matter how educated, or how needy and repressed by their governments they are, and how much they want to LEGALLY help build America up!!

Washington, we HAVE an entry PROBLEM!!
Its amazing how most people commenting on this blog .completely missed the point of this story.

Are all these people just "collateral damage"  and deserve a life of a refugee because our country decided to invade their country?

Most of them hat least had a life under Sadaam but once we ivaded all that changed so what would you have them do?  Stay in Iraq and try to survive?  Why is Syria the bad guy for letting these people in?  

These people are human beings just like you and me.  

Try to show a little compassion!
Dawna

Thanks for your reporting. Those who managed to cross the border to Syria only to find out the most dismal living conditions.  To further compound their circumstances, they become the unemployed even though many are professionals. Some chose to return to Iraq. Some may pay the human smugglers as a gamble but many end up in a limbo.  To argue that terrorists may disguise as refugees to seek entry into this country is moot. How many millions undocumneted aliens already crossed our border? Turning a blind eye to this human suffering is creating fertile ground for future Al Qaeda recruits.  This unpopular and unnecessary war cost thousands of American lives, let alone billions of tax dollars.  This refugee crisis is America's problem.  Our adminstration and its supporters are simply digging their heads in the sand.
They left. Why? We have hundreds of thousands of troops there and some of them are dying, and they LEFT? Are you kidding me? I would NEVER leave this country, EVER. I would stay and fight. What do they hope to gain? (a note from a Viet Nam Era veteran who remembers South Viet Nam students protesting the war in their own country they should have been fighting for.)
God Save US All...
Iraq was better off under the yoke of their former dictator. This war was about all the wrong reasons, and wrongfully misused the angery and painful emotions spawned from the September 11th attacks to launch ourselves into a conflict that has since degraded into politcal deadlock and ceaseless back and forth violence between a struggling insurgency and an overstressed and overworked coalition force.  I think this war has only served to only destablize the region more than help stabilize.  On top of the growing refugee problem in Syria, there is also the rising tensions of sectarian violence that threatens to erupt into civil war at any moment, the constant worries of a nuclear armed Iran, and the apparent uneasyness created by the possibilities and actual likelyness that Israel possesses its own nuclear arsenal.
Though i know many Iraqis are grateful for our intervention on behalf of their freedom, the cost of this war has consistently proven to be more than anyone bargained for and proves to be something that will haunt the future of the United States even after we pull out, if we ever really do.
I say the Iraqis need to be left to fight for their country now, or the creations of smaller ones, Kurdistan(?) although such a solution will lead to more bloodshed and violence and would only serve to further deepen the rift between the different sects of the Muslim population. In reality any course taken from here on out is going to be painful and we are only going to see more shifts in the balances of power in the region
Syria showed the good heart accommodating Iraqi refugees. But now that Syria is feeling the strains, Syria should exert all efforts helping towards stabilization of Iraq instead of the other way. Here lies the hope of the likes of Youssef.
Pandy,

Since you seem to have missed the point of this story, let me reiterate it for you. A fifteen year old BOY is now the head of his family household as a result of losing both his older brother and his father to this war. Now do you get it? Would you want the rest of the family to die for no reason? Thank you for fighting in Viet Nam. I respect our veterans. Your viewpoint here though is skewed.
I would find Pandy's remarks amusing, were it not so sad. Why not talk about it after losing a couple of family members and having bombs go off anywhere anytime in your city? Why not try and understand why a mother and 3 young kids (below 15) should all stay and pick up guns to fight extremists who the US army has been unable to defeat for 5 years? In the US, we have people moving away from city centers to suburbs because of high crime, and the city centers here are nothing like Iraq.

I appreciate the sacrifice of the young men and women who are fighting in Iraq, but they are there because they were ordered to be there by their commanders and ultimately by their commander in chief. The soldiers in Vietnam (some not all) were drafted into the military, they were not eager to spend time there. You cannot compare the actions of soldiers and civilians. It is odd that Pandy chooses to believe that American soldiers in Vietnam cared more about the country than did South Vietnamese students themselves. It was their country, they had every right to tell an external army to leave. The US was in Vietnam for its own interests, not because of sheer concern for the Vietnamese. There is nothing wrong with that, just be honest about it.
Dawna,
Thank you for your enlightening article. I am happy to see that you put the focus on the people and not on politics.  It's sad that in most news stories, these innocent people, victims of circumstance, are often forgotten or degraded to numbers in a report of twisted politics.

Also: "Kudos" to Syria for taking in all the refugees, when the US has not even put a dent in the problem!
AL
I think the question why the Iraqi left is ignorant, people can not stay as you wish, a woman who lost her husband or a young man who is getting a death threats and not sure if he will make to the end of the street without being killed by some gangs ruling the street,the other point is how we made it here it is  all about oil,we had no business to be there in the first place,now we have obligation to blow billions of your hard earned tax dollars every day while few individuals like oil companies and private Contractors stealing your budget money.on the other hand  our roads are decaying and our health system is in the gutters and our best jobs shipped to china and India.
I see destruction in our little town worse than war destruction due to factory closing and people leaving
to nowhere and in the end up applying to the welfare system or end up stuck in jobs like Wallmart or Macdonald hardly pay up you bills.
so I say to the federal reserve go ahead lower the interest rate make the dollar weaker and make  people
more poor and borrow more money the can't pay back.
pretty soon  china will have best economy and hold the main currency thanks for the greedy corporation helping it happen.
Sodom & Gomorrah fell, as did Rome.  The region in question throughout the Middle East will fall too as well as the so called promise land, America.  Nobody is immune to this ugly monster that mankind has created.  No one man, political group, or government around the globe can stop it.  the wheel is and has been in motion for quite some time now.  It's all part of the "Big Bang Plan...!"  My days on this earth are numbered, as they are with every man woman and child.  I live each day to its fullest, one day at a time, because I may not be so fortunate to witness tomorrow. Life isn't fair.  Did anyone ever really promise you that it was going to be?  If you think so then you got suckered into a big dissapointing false belief.  Just live and let live.  And when you're gone, you'll soon be forgotten.  So what does it matter...?  In the end, it really doesn't.  Honestly, it doesn't...  It's a sad, sad world we all live in, no matter who you are, where you live, what you believe in.  There is always strife, suffering, and bloodshed.  Most of it unnessary.  It's just the human way.  But such is life.  That's just the way it is.
There's a great documentary called Heavy Metal in Baghdad that touches on a lot of these issues.  It was just featured at the Toronto International Film Festival.  The subject of the documentary, musicians from Baghdad, are about to be forced out of Syria and back in Iraq, where they feel confident they'll be killed.  heavymetalinbaghdad.com for more info.
Thanks Dawna,for bringing in this story.It is really
very sad to read about the plight of these refugee
children in Syria.Alot of these young girls are sex
slaves and are sold,Girls as young as five or  six years old work in night clubs in Damascus.At least back in Iraq they had a house a family and dignity.Look what we have done to that nation.Shame
on us.If we as a human being have a concious,should
ask ourselves why did we bring them more misery.Did
they deserve this in humane treatment.Is this the
ultimate price these children have to pay to get freedom,that our politians are talking about all the
time?
Now that Alan Greenspan has let the cat outta the bag in his new book, and admitted that this Illegal Invasion and Occupation was always all about OIL maybe now the lemmings can start coming to grips with the truth.  The Iraqi people haven't signed an oil agreement cuz they aren't gonna let the Multi-nationals STEAL thier only resource!!!  WILL WE HAVE TO PAY WAR REPARATIONS???
my heart bleeds for all the peole living with the fear of war and bombs, iraqis, palestinians, afghanis, somalis etc. For the record iraqis were among the most educated people in the region, before the "liberation" they had a street where iraqis went to buy books both used and old, they were growing gardens, and both sunis and shias were marrying each other, the so called sectarian killings of today were unthinkable, who is actually perpetrating this killings??? I wish a better future for the iraqis, and i wish them the best ramadan, because they are fasting and praying in their masjids under severe hardship.
jumanah, United Arab Emirates.
As an American I am deeply ashamed for what my country has done. We sent the noble fighting men (and women) of the U.S. armed forces to overthrow the government of Iraq under false pretenses. Untold thousands of innocent men, women, and children have died. Millions ( I need to say that again) MILLIONS (1,000,000)!!! of people are REFUGEES! Millions of people are NOT in the comfort of their own homes because of the idiot we, the American people, elected as Commander in Chief of our armed forces. Millions of people live in desperate squaller because of what MY country has done in the name of freedom.

Sorry doesn't bring back your dead husband.
Sorry doesn't bring back your dead child, mother, father, grandfather, uncle, friend.
Sorry doesn't allow you to return to the safety and comfort of your home, your job, your school.

I, as an American (veteran) who from day 1 thought this war an insidious charade, can't even begin to imagine the devastation we've brought upon you for the greed of our President and his staff.

I can only beg for your forgiveness.

I will pray to the God of Abraham(The God of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims) that Youssef becomes a great doctor.


Just a week ago Alan Greenspan wrote about his report to the Bush whitehouse just after 9-11, his summary went like this, : Dont Go: lose control of the oil reserves in the gulf region and ultimatly have financial chaos, "Go" and accept the cost in human and financial losses and the oil reserves will flow on and on just like now, The honorable George Bush did what most history making fools do, protect the American Dollar from going down the tube for as long as possible, FDR isnt remembered for the total cost of world war 2 insomuch as he was rembered for the really neato results that would have happened anyway, the Japanese could not have done more than Harrass the west for the remainder of the pacific conflict, the European theatre was more a race to gain technology and political footholds for the future than liberate different peoples along the way, "WAR" Its the Money! Baby!
it isnt todays refugees, or todays sick and dying that count, its tomorrows financial opportunity that keeps us there,ARMIES! are the Snack Bar workers of the top world political operators, without the ARMIES!, NO SNACKS! and everyone goes home,  
What did we accomplish by invading Iraq? It was better off under Saddam Hessein who knew how to control the country. There is more killing now than was under his ruling. The entire Middle East is in Chaos!

The history repeats itself. We are creating another Israelis/Palestinian crisis (which now is 60 years old) but this time it called the Iraqis crisis and it will be worse because Iran is sitting by watching.

In both cases millions of angry refugees who became and will become militants and gangs destabilizing the Middle East contries and later western countries. Why because they have nothing else to do. No future. No hope. No family. No society. No where to go.

Once the Americans leave Iraq (if will ever happen), another dictator will take over and Saddam Hessein history will repeat itself.

The only answer now is that The USA to annex Iraq as the 53 state then we will have a good reason to be there my friend. Good luck. If the Israelis/ Palestinian crisis will ever resolved then the Iraq crisis will be resolved too. Let's pray and hope and give me a list of related international agencies who are helping these refugees so I may give the a hand.
Michael Eric,your comments are exactly what I feel about our actions after 9/11. We wanted to show strength, force, revenge for what took place. But we are doing just what the terrorists wanted. They accomplished their mission.
Now we see families of veterans asking not to withdraw because it would mean their loved ones were sacrificed needlessly. Your sons, daughters, husbands, wives were just Republican pawns. Trust your instincts people, and don't let these officials abuse their priviledges or manipulate OUR system.  
I do not think people understand what this war is all about. It is about controlling terrorism. If we pull out of Iraq, the extremists will take over all the resources and utilize those funds to fund their terrorism, which would make our trouble even worse. There must be an avenue to stabilize the situation in Iraq, capitulating to terrorism is not the answer.  Do we want suicide bombers on American streets, do we want to destabilize our economy. Part of the solution is our energy independence and the accelerated progress and implementation of renewable energy. We should not be dictated to by the oil rich countries.
Our US Government made a deliberate decision to attack and invade Iraq. That decision was not a "mistake" but was, according to President Bush's first Secretary of the Treasury, announced as an objective by President Bush at his first Cabinet meeting in January 2001. President Bush has since admitted at a White House news conference that Iraq had "nothing" to do with the 9/11/01 terrorist attack by 15 Saudi Arabians and four other non-Iraqis. Yet many of the commentators here and many of our troops in Iraq insist on holding the totally innocent Iraqi people as being somehow responsible for 9/11 and therefore legitimate targets (or at least justifiable "collateral damage" in our Government's "war on terrorism." Just as Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, Syria had nothing to do with that terrorist attack or any other against the US. Yet our Government and some commentators here apparently take the position that it is perfectly fair for Syria to be burdened with over a million refugees from the conflagration we set off in Iraq, while we can't seem to find room for more than a few hundred Iraqi refugees. Our political "leaders" in Washington say that under Colin Powell's "pottery rule" (you break it, you own it), we are morally obligated to stay in Iraq until we have "fixed" the problem we caused there. I don't happen to agree that our continued occupation of Iraq is likely to "fix" anything in that divided and devasted country; but if we do have an obligation to "fix" the problem we created in Iraq, surely part of that obligation is to accept the refugees we have helped drive out of their country. Perhaps if our "leaders" knew that one cost of utilizing military power to forward our "national interests" throughout the world would be to accept all (or even a substantial share) of the refugees created by our foreign military adventures, they might not be so quick to "fight them over there so that we do not have to fight them here." And perhaps are "leaders" might learn to discern who the "them" that we need to fight really are.
The only other place I have heard the plight of these people is in the Economist magazine...its amazing how 'picky choosy' the media is here in this country..and how they all seem to carry the same basic message day after day...although brain washing shouldn't be word to use but it sure is close to it...and I loved how pretty much all the major outlets during the onset of the war seemed to demonize the Iraq 'people' alwaays...seemed to me show the grimiest,ugliest,meanest(missing teeth) people during any interviews..not any little kids(especially no little girls) people get such utterly skewed view of the world from the media it is not even funny anymore
"Hillary/Obama/Edwards/Gore and most of all Bill is on these ships along with every liberal idiot."
Hey! Rob! what you wrote really show your desparation.
You lost and you're loosing, you are a typical narrow mind conservative. Wise up!
Of course, there were plenty of Iraqi refugees that left due to Saddam's cruel reign. If this family has left Iraq, it is because their family was likely part of the Ba'ath party, and are now deposed (that's what "refugees" are). Perhaps his Father and Brother died as suicide bombers themselves, and THEY chose to put their family in this situation. Who knows.

Anytime you have radicalism like Islamic Extremeism, you'll have these situations. Until they decide to cast aside violence, they will die by violence. That is what war is.... You must kill the enemy, crush the resistance, and rebuild. That's what we did to Japan and Germany. So the fellow who said "bomb 'em all" is closer to actual PEACE than those who say "let's leave and they'll be nice!"
i totally agree with lisa mcneal. Education needs to be a top priortiy if the next generation is going to be saved.
hi l.m. from joe reynolds, working in alphareatta, ga
Let Peace ring on earth. Wars have never solved any world conflict, and our presence in Iraq will not. A fire in the Middle East is a fire on the world oil economy. May someone in Washington propose a bill to help the Iraq refugees in Syria and other parts of the Middle East, and a negotiated exit strategy that will ensure even a fragile peace in Iraq before Musharaf is overthrown in Pakistan. The price then may be greater.
My fellow humans,
Please recognize that this story of a valiant family who have suffered death, loss of so many good and normal aspects of life, plus the humility of it all,  are coping as best they can.
We caused so much pain and destruction, how can we make it end? I do think getting our influence and our young men out of THEIR country sounds like a start.
Rofl, if things calmed down in Iraq the USA would leave? Hahahahahaha. It's all about the Oil folks, the USA isn't leaving until every drop of Iraqi crude is taken for their corporate masters.
The occupying forces are directly responsible for approximately one-third of the deaths in Iraq, so the U.S. military might have killed his family members. The invasion and ongoing occupation have created the conditions resulting in 1,000,000 (one million) Iraqi deaths and 4,000,000 (four million) refugees or internally displaced people.

Indeed the U.S. -- all too willing to shed blood for oil (especially Iraqi blood)-- is directly responsible for this human catastrophe.
EG, Georgia,  said:"Did Syria not support Saddam Hussien?

"Karma, baby, karma"

No, it didn't. In fact, they were not friends, to the point of hardly talking with each other. Almost enemies. The Iraqi Baath Party and the Syrian Baas Party didn't see eye to eye.
My great concern for these refugees is the likelihood of there soon being an Israeli/American all-out war on Syria, following the bombing that Israel has recently effected on Syria, and Cheney's desire to see war-mongering an aggressive Netanyahu as prime minister of Israel, and their common desire to flatten Syria with bombs.
Jay Draiman, Northridge, CA, wrote: "I do not think people understand what this war is all about. It is about controlling terrorism. If we pull out of Iraq, the extremists will take over all the resources and utilize those funds to fund their terrorism, which would make our trouble even worse."

This is absolutely not the case - this is just the latest of a large and growing number of mendacious "justifications" put out by the Bush régime to convince the American people that this was the reason for this illegal and criminal war of aggression, and for remaining in Iraq. It is a war for seizing and controlling those areas which are the richest in sweet oil (the kind that is of the highest quality and close to the surface), in view of the current "peak oil". As demand for oil is now greater than the dwindling supply, the Neocons want to ensure that they possess these oilfields in order to be able to continue fuelling their war machines in view of their desire for global conquest and control.
>>Even though it is a sad thing to read about one has to question why then does Syria not shut down it's borders to to the criminals that go into Iraq?<<

The same reason the US does not shut out illegal Mexicans.

>>I can't help but feeling that the under score to this is that our military did the killing.<<

This is the type of thinking that is produced when people don't pay attention.  Iraq is in chaos, friend, thousands of Iraqis die every month and, no, our soldiers didn't kill them all or even 10% of them.  Innocent people over there are dying because your idiot president invaded and tore down their govt and left Iraq ripe for terrorist organizations to move in and train recruits.

>>Or do you believe that this family had a bout with bad luck?<<

They had a bout with living in post-invasion Iraq, you fool.

>>What is happening is terrible but let's not be so ready to take the blame for everything bad that happens. We are not the ones targeting CIVILIANS.<<

Once again, pay attention!  Read up on the Blackwater debacle and I also sincerely hope you don't vote because you obviously are incapable of making a correct decision. PAY ATTENTION!!!
"Did Syria not support Saddam Hussien?
"Karma, baby, karma"

US supported Saddam for quite long time in his war against Iran as well al-Qua'eda in Afghanistan against Soviets. Considering how well US has conducted Middle Eastern policy throughout this century, why is Iraq a surprise really? We pretty much invaded stable country and gave it to Shiites who are close to Iran, while creating chaos in the country and giving arms to Saudis and Israel to fight future war in...Iraq and Iran against...those same Shiites we just freed. Even flipping the dice shouldn't produce such bad results, which leads me to believe our only goal is to destabilize Middle East in order to invade it later. You almost have to root as a good person for us failing at some step of this inhumane strategy.


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