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Welcome, just don't ask me about Osama...

Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:43 PM
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It was not the fact that a large gathering of Muslims was taking place last weekend that drew our attention to the event – it was where it was and who might attend that attracted our curiosity.

"I traveled for five days," said Maroof Asad from Tajikistan. "The Pakistani officials detained me for 24 hours at the border, but I was determined to get here."

We were determined too; we wanted to see just who might show up at the Tableghi Jamaat (Islamic missionary group) festival in Qila Saifullah, near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

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A group of men gather at Tableghi Jamaat's annual festival in Qila Saifullah, near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

The village was hosting more than 75,000 Muslim men who had come for three days of prayers and sermons to learn to emulate the life of the Prophet and then to instruct and convert others.

Similar gatherings of pilgrims belonging to the movement take place all over the Muslim world every year, but the location of this one along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border was enough to make us hop in the car to check it out.  

Welcome, just don’t ask me about Osama…
Qila Saifullah is a village in Baluchistan, Pakistan's largest province where many of the Taliban leadership reportedly keep safe havens. The Afghan Taliban commander Mullah Dadullah was often seen in Qila Saifullah before he was hunted down and killed last May by American Special Forces in Afghanistan. 

We drove two and a half hours from Quetta, the provincial capital, through the craggy wilderness of the Baluchistan desert. The temperature was well over 100 degrees Fahrenheit. And since the monsoon rains have been late in coming this year, the ground was particularly dry and we stirred up clouds of brown dust as we drove by. But eventually the sand-colored landscape gave way to the green valley of Qila Saifullah.

"Don't ask me any questions about Osama or Mullah Omar," said Abdul Kabir, sporting a long black beard and black turban – a common "look" among the Taliban ranks. "I don't know where they are, but if I did, I would welcome them into my home and protect them from the American invaders."

Kabir and his group of more than 100 similarly dressed young men said they were from South Waziristan, one of Pakistan's seven semi-autonomous tribal areas, and did not want to mingle too much with the others. "Too many people ask us too many tricky questions about Osama," he said.

Festival-like scene
The scene of the event was like a country fair – large multi-colored tents were erected along the road outside the main square of Qila Saifullah – the same road that leads to Pakistan's tribal areas. On the tents and trees were signs welcoming foreigners and stressing the goal of the event – to spread the word of Allah all over the world.

Vendors hawked water, soft drinks, melons, coconuts, and kebabs.

We met Muhammed Bakir, 25, from Bangladesh sitting cross-legged outside one of the smaller tents. "Muslims must unite and prepare to use jihad at the proper time," he told us in a soft voice, barely audible as the call, "Allahu Akbar" summoned the faithful for prayer. Bakir hurried off to join the others in prayer before explaining just when the proper time for jihad might be.

There were Arabs, Sudanese, Afghans, Uzbeks and Tajiks all trying to communicate with each other in the local Pashto and Urdu languages, or through an interpreter. A group of Afghans told us that they knew for sure that some Brits and Americans were in the crowd, but as hard as we searched, we couldn't find them.

But almost everyone we spoke with seemed to know where the spies of ISI, Pakistan's intelligence agency were -- and they were just about everywhere.

An Islamic recruiting group?
Western intelligence analysts believe that Tableghi Jamaat, the missionary group that organized the event, is a major recruiting arm for Islamic terrorist groups. Others argue that it is an apolitical group of missionaries dedicated to spreading Islam across the globe,  not much different from Christian missionary groups.

Two of London's July 7 suicide bombers attended Tablighi sermons and Richard Reid, the so-called "shoe bomber," who was jailed for trying to blow up a commercial airliner with a bomb hidden in his shoe, is also believed to have belonged to the group.

Last year when the same three-day celebration of faith was held in North Waziristan, a tribal area of Pakistan, pamphlets were distributed with greetings from Osama bin Laden.

Abdul Majid, wearing traditional white baggy pants and long shirt with a black and white turban came from Zabul, Afghanistan. He said he was trying to find some peace from all the bloodshed and misery.

"First Russia, and then America, has made Afghanistan a laboratory of death and destruction," he said. "The fall of the Taliban has brought us occupation once again by foreign troops."

Tea-time debate
A group of young bearded men from the Kakar tribe, one of the largest of the Pashtun tribes invited us to drink some sweet milky tea – a Pashtun specialty.  The Kakars inhabit the northeast of Pakistan's Baluchistan province as well as across the border in Afghanistan. They are an ancient tribe and claim to be the ancestors of all the Pashtuns – the ethnic group comprising 15 percent of Pakistan's population, most of whom live in the Pakistan-Afghanistan border areas.

Shamsullah, a local Kakar tribesman said that he believes that the Taliban and al-Qaida bore equal responsibility for the crisis facing Muslims today. "Islam preaches tolerance and forbids the killing of innocent civilians," he said. "Al-Qaida and Taliban were wrong to use our land as a springboard for their own goals."

Salman Harifal stared into his teacup as he listened to Shamsullah speak. Harifal disagreed with his opinion.

"The Taliban and al-Qaida are sincere and are fighting for the renaissance of Islam," he shot back in an angry tone. "It is the double standards of the West that has caused all the bloodshed."

Asad, from Tajikistan, was listening to their now high-pitched voices from under the shade of a nearby pomegranate tree. "Muslim rulers are responsible for this pitiful situation," he said. "They made the alliances with the United States."

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I wonder if the event organizers were concerned about security... What if Al Qaida decided to send in a suicide bomber?  
75,000 MEN!  Interesting!!!  NO WOMEN!!!
It is sad that so many people in that region are so misled. The freedoms of the west help provide prosperity everywhere they are adopted. Look how far Taiwan was ahead of China economically for years and how far they are ahead in Democracy now. Or South Korea vs. North Korea, or West and East Germany back in the day. Osama and Co's greatest fear is that more people they are trying to recruit and mislead realizing just how much better their lives and freedoms could be.  
What was that our not-so-great tyrant, er president, said yesterday about creating recruits? Is that not exactly what our misguided and some would say absurd policies and unconstitutional wars have best accomplished? Will we ever heed the words of that great activist, scientist and thinker, Albert Einstein: "We can not solve problems by thinking the same way we were thinking when we created them?"
I am glad to see that muslims over there still believe that by killing 60 innocent children at a shot in iraq is still al-qaida's way of 'fighting the west'.
I'd like to see the Muslim leaders stand up and take resposibility for the extremists. Why are the so quiet??
Does'nt anyone realize that this war with the muslim people will never end until every last American leaves muslim land. It may be even be too late if that happens. You can not deal with these people, they will fight until eternity and ensure there children do the same.
I don't think all the participants were terrorsits cause most of them proabably were there for their devotion to their religion, but I am sure that those who want to take advantage of peopel's religious sentiments were trying to find new recruits. Most of these kind of people are innocent anyway, this is what Osama exploited so far.
One of these ppl have to know SOMETHING or know someone that knows SOMETHING about Osama Bin Laden...
Funny just seen a clip on ZEE TV showing Bin Laden reviewing soldiers/troops/in action (7.30 GMT august 23)-where's networking gone?
Muslims that oppose the extremists action of the murdering Muslims financed by Saudi oil money live in fear for their life. Please do not think all Muslims are cowards or support the murdering Godless few that want to kill every American, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddist, etc. who they can not convert to their awful perverted Muslim views. These are people with no brain who want you to bow down and lick their feet or die. Most Muslims are happy to live in peace with Christians and others. It is so sad that so many believe all are bad.
God Bless our President for not backing down to minority activists.
Ignorance, poverty and hopelessness can make anyone in any culture suseptable to absurd ideologies. Realistically, what do these people have to lose in following a fanatical group that offers them something "better". With this and all of the other global problems, I feel that mankinds only hope is to work toward a world government. I detest this thought but I do believe there is no other way.
God Bless our President for not backing down to minority activists.
if the educated people from the west can produce leaders like bush then how can u expect better from the uneducated people from the east...
It's not that everyone believes all muslims are bad, its just that after you hear about or run into so many bad muslims it's hard to think different. When 9/11 happened we saw people celebrating, cheering the death of innocents. The hijackers themselves and people planning the attacks were living among us in many cases with us having no clue.  That kind of betrayal makes people afraid to give muslims the benefit of the doubt again.
Of these people meeting there, a good question to ask would have been "Who is innocent?"  Every group has people commit horrible things in that group's name.  

As to the land that people are on that Ethan refers to, an unwillingness to let people visit and live near their holy sites or see into the culture that is near a monument is insane.  Just because a group considers itself the greatest group it should stop people from worshiping at a site that is holy to another group.  The Israelis haven't destroyed or forceablely removed the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.  Many Muslims see it as the location that Mohommed jumped from Earth to Heaven; it would be nice if they realized that the Jews were there centuries before with the Temple built first by Solomon and then Ezra and Nehemiah (later built up further by Herod).  To deny that, ignores evidence that is right in front of their faces -- the Western Wall; this is not to mention documents from the Romans talking about their problems with the Jews before Islam was started.  Muslim land indeed; if anything it would only be in Arabia!
when a society cannot compete, or measure up to other societies, they then only know how to destroy. If the Saudi oil money,from US, was used to help and advance their country people, there would be a better quality of life thus eliminating many suicide bombers, and their murderous destruction, plotted in their mausques, built by oil money.
75,000 targets, we blew it again.

When they gather, someone should launch the bombs!
We should have put a wall mart there and a McDonalds with a Pizza Hut and a star bucks....what where these Americans doing there not trying to capitalize off the tea market.
Itis not that all are bad, only those who are truely devoted.  However it only takes a couple with big bombs to murder thousands in an instant.
As far as the war being unconstitutional, it would help if you read the document beffore saying we violated it.  Was can only be declared by Congress, and they gave the ok to go in.  That is entirely constitutional!  As far as the additional war powers that Congress signed over to the Executie branch, they decided to share their power.  No one complains about the "unconstitutional" way we elect senators directly, (because that was edited as well), or that the president and vice president run on a shared ticket as well (another edit), or most recently, congress giving the Treasury the authority to mint money, and control the mint and its procedures without congressional approval (A very recent change).  That is the beauty of our Constitution, it is flexible, and able to be edited.  Just because you dislike an edit, does not make it unconstitutional.  

As far as the fighting will not end until we leave their land, that will not work.  They started this war.  If we leave, they will bring the fight to us.  Are we going to hae to abandon our American cities when they move here, and establish a majority in certain areas? No!  The barbarians must be vanquished.  Moslem allies can be very honorable and loyal, but if you are not with us, then you are against us.
Bottom line for me is that GOD and KILLING are self exclusive. Sorry guys, but if your doctrine condones killing for ANY REASON, you know NO god!!! If you truely believe in tolerance than the word infidel would also not exist in your doctrine. Heh, people still ask why I am agnostic
A world government will fix it alright, That will be the end of the world, 'read the bible'
To mo, toronto:  Educated doesn't neccessarily mean intelligent.
Why dont the muslims that arent radical speak up against the radical muslims, we then would feel more comfortable about islam.
Hey.. You wouldn't happen to know where Osama is??..Just asking..
God created all things. Including muslims. we must embrace them as they mus imbrace us. We are one race and one tribe. we are the human race. like it or not..
Ok, let me get this straight. There was a man there that said if Osama was there he would welcome him into his home and protect him from teh American 'invaders".
It seems they make Americans out to be the bad guy but originally we were trying to avenge the 3000 that were killed by their extremists.
Not that I think any of it is right, but it does seem we have lost sight of the objective of capturing Osama Bin Laden and ending his terrorism.
educated? almost everyone submitting a comment has made some sort of typo.  
Of course someone there new something about Bin Ladin and his lot. But not all are terrorists bent on world domination. The problem is the mainstream Muslim world is largely indifferent and the muslim voices decrying terrorism is a minority. What needs to happen is Islam needs to find a way to separate itself from the extremists, i.e. excommunication or something like it. It would be hard since there is no real central base for islam like there is for other religions.
I know it's tough for Americans to believe that a person could be a savior and a devil at the same time, so to appease all, let's call this person a stabilizer. Well you've allowed the stabilizer to be hanged by his enemies,by people who had an axe to grind and who has offered nothing to replace the man they hanged.He, by the way, would have been the savior, but the typical American would not admit that he/she is wrong for understandably, great pride required even greater understanding to overcome it and I am not sure Americans understand, especially when confused by messages from 9/11, and insecurity. The solution to the problem of Iraq is now "no solution currently present" for distrust has to replaced by acts of trust between the Iraqis. Hate, by acts of love instead of by war. Greed replaced by generosity. In the present environment,the present government can offer none of these virtues for none are present and the Iraqui people know it.
A sausage party!
Let's get one thing straight.....

ALL muslims are, at the core, terrorists.  Their "religion" states emphatically that all must convert or die.  I am so sick of listening the the politcally correct crowd.

Islam is evil, and there is no way around that.  It is a religion of violence and hatred, where women and children are mistreated, and that kind of behavior is encouraged by their joke of a holy book.

Islam, once again, IS evil, and the world would be much better off if it was wiped off the earth.  Mecca and Medina should be turned into a smoking crater and the Dome of the Losers in Jerusalem should be bulldozed to the ground.

Let's see if the moderators here will truly allow freedom of speech....I seriously doubt it.
Sounds like a sausagefest.

No wonder their always uptight.  
hey John Doe....why are you sugarcoating the FACTS.  The FACT is that if you are a Muslim, and a devout one, then you MUST support what Koran (crapfactory that it is) says, and that is that all must convert or die.  Islam is NOT a religion of peace.  Be honest.  ALL muslims are potential murderers, if they follow the tenets of their joke of a god.
Man President Bush kicks ass.
I disagree with David Powell. Osama and Co's greatest fear is that the west would make the indigenous people of the Middle East secondary citizens as is the case with all colonization or imperialism.
 If Osama is such a great leader and he has nothing to hide and if Islam is right, then by all means where is Osama to brag about his wonderful religion.
Osama just like every muslims knows that Islam has to be hidden because I beleive deep down inside they know Islam is off
who is Mujeeb Abmad and Carol Grisanti
to me this sounds like a make blog
I doubta al quaeda would have shown up, I doubt that the group who created funded and trained al qaeda, namely the CIA, have requested they bomb a muslim event.

the worlds worst creators and instigators of terrorism are the CIA who were founded by core nazi figures that were brought to the US in operation paperclip.

THE WAR ON TERROR IS FAKE, 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, IMPEACH BUSH, IMPEACH CHENEY, THEY ARE MURDERERS AND ARE BENT ON DESTROYING THE US AND COMMITTING GENOCIDE IN AMERICAS NAME.
75,000 men and NO women?  Guess they've never been to a NASCAR race....
With grief, the first reaction is denile....it seems many these folks talked to at this meeting are just trying to deny any involvement in their own plights by blaming the USA and others and denying thier involvment in their own misery.  As I heard lately, if you compare religions to rocks...I do not mind when you explain the rock to me, show me pictures and expound the virtues of the rock personally, what I DO MIND is when you throw it at me.  Seems many of these islam seekers just want to throw the rock, because they are too ignorant in their own religion to describe or provide it's virtues to others with different rocks in their lives.
I would love to hear that some nut case poped a bomb off in the middle of this "peaceful" gathering.
Canada? Like anyone's opinion from such a chicken sh** country matters. I tremble in fear of the Canadian Military. Ha!
OSAMA BIN LADEN DIED OF RENAL FAILURE IN 2003. IT WAS IN ALL THE MID EASTERN PAPERS. THE LAST ACTUAL CONFIRMED SIGHTING OF OSAMA BIN LADEN WAS ON SEPT 10 2001 WHEN HE WAS TREATED IN A HOSPITAL IN DUBAI AND WAS VISITED BY THE LOCAL HEAD OF THE CIA. THE SO CALLED CONFESSION VIDEO HAS BE AMPLY PROVEN TO BE FAKED AND BIN LADEN HAS REPEATEDLY DENIED THE 911 ATTACKS.

911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!

THE WAR ON TERROR IS UTTERLY FAKE, BUSH IS A NAZI LIKE HIS GRANDAD, THE MAN WHO FINANCED HITLERS RISE TO POWER.
"God bless our President"?  He already claims to have god's blessing, and look where it's gotten him (and us!).  Consider if there were no god.  Then Bush is relying not on the divine guidance he thinks he has, but on guidance an imaginary character springing from the recesses of his own poorly-informed mind.  This is what controls our troops!
I find it somewhat alarming that there are 75,000 men who are interested enough in Islamism that they would travel to one of the remotest places on Earth to participate in a conference where they must know before hand that there is a good chance they will be observed by police and recruited by radicals. We will probably have to deal with this movement for most of the 21st century, but I don't think it has a snowball's chance in Hell of succeeding. Despite the rhetoric of Bush and his ilk, radical Islamism is not a serious threat to our way of life unless we hand over our personal and civil liberties because a misguided government convinces enough of us that they can insure our safety. The sad reality is that we may be attacked again, but the ideology behind this movement will eventually become totally irrelevant as the world progresses and more and more Muslims realize that they have to move forward rather than try to return to a time that never even really existed. There were problems within Islam from the very beginning and there was never a time in the entire history of Islam that it was the single megalithic entity that they would like to have us believe. They continue to fight amongest themselves more than they fight with non Muslims , and kill many more Muslims than non Muslims do. The majority of people will eventually grow sick of the violence to no good end and realize it does more harm than good and they will eventually fade away. Anarchists and Nihilists have been around off and on for a long time,mostly off, and have never succeeded.
Check your history.  Muslims are actively recruiting all around the world.  Fifteen years ago, how many Islamic temples were in the US?  Islam and it's leaders will not be satisfied as long as other world religions exist.
The comment that the "war with the Muslim people will never end until every last American leaves Muslim land" is simplistic.  If only it were that easy.  Muslims are moving into every developing county.  Some are coming to find a better life; others truly have another agenda.  Read the Koran.  It is there in black and white.
The world knows that Pakistan is a cess pool of terrorists and these hydra-headed terrorists group are well protected and directed by Pakistani ISI and its military. Pakistan is playing this double game of its indispensability and the West, particularly Bush and some incompetents in the State Department like Richard Boucher, are hoodwinked by Pakistani dictator. Each of the major terrorist attacks links back to Pakistan and Pakistani government always denies its role and seeks concrete proof. Sooner or later the same terrrorists groups they are in bed with will turn Pakistan to a stone-age society.

Once West stops it financial and military aid, I bet, Pakistan government will come to its senses and stop secreting terrorists and supporting them
When are Christians and Muslims alike going to realize that we worship the same God but in different ways. God doesn't want any of his children to bring suffering or death to others. For every child an American soldier or Jihadist kills, God (Allah) cries for them. We together are destroying this beautiful world that God has provided to us all. Among faiths and sects their is bitterness. Only through forgiveness and tolerance will we reach the hilltops where God can see the glory of his creation. Listen to no man, listen to your heart where God (Allah) resides and ask yourself is this fleeting sand beneath your feet eternal? Is the gun truly the way to the arms of Allah? Show your loyalty to your faith not by killing one another but by lifting your voice against the violence that man has created on God's good earth.


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