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Iraq attack strikes ancient religious sect

Posted: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:23 PM
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For Iraq's small and secretive Yazidis community, Tuesday's attack was one of the worst massacres in the living memory of a community that believes they were the first people God created.

"We want the world to know us better," the sheikh known as the Prince of the Yazidis told me in northern Iraq well before the war when his diminishing community decided that they could no longer afford to be known as devil worshippers.

VIDEO: NBC's Jane Arraf discusses the aftermath of Tuesday's deadly attack in Iraq.

That label is believed to be part of the reason for the simultaneous suicide bombs that have killed 250 people - many of them women and children - in what will likely be deadliest suicide attack since the war began. Officials say the Yazidis, members of a secret pre-Islamic religion considered infidels by fundamentalist Muslims, received letters from al-Qaida in Iraq telling them to leave.

Ancient culture
There are likely fewer than a million Yazidis in the world - by some estimates as few as 400,000. They are believed to be ethnically Kurds but they don't consider themselves Kurdish. Almost half of the entire community has become refugees in Germany and other parts of Europe.

They've been persecuted for centuries because they're mistakenly considered by many Muslims to be devil worshipers - a perception fueled by the secrecy of their ancient religion.

Visiting traditional Yazidis communities is like stepping into another world. Their temples-have cone-shaped roofs - the same shape as the wool felt hats worn by religious elders, who wear locks of hair in long braids. The ceremonies include elements of Zoroastroanism, the ancient Persian religion, and include the worship of fire and sun. At a temple in the Sinjar Mountains before the war, I watched the keeper of the temple light an oil lamp with four wicks and pray to each direction of the flame. In one of the temples, there was an etching of a serpent – in another the moon and the stars.

Like the religion, the temples are often hidden. The Yazidis elders have long worried that as young people become assimilated into Western culture, their religion could essentially disappear. It's an unforgiving faith - Yazidis are only allowed to marry other Yazidis.

In April, police say, members of one Yazidi community stoned to death a teenage Yazidi girl who had converted to Islam to marry a Muslim. Dozens of Yazidis were killed by Muslim extremists in retaliation.

Secretive religion
In northern Iraq a few years ago, the "Prince of the Yazidis" a sheikh who spends his time in Germany when he's not in northern Iraq, told me they had decided that they could no longer be as secretive - that they had to persuade the world that they were God-fearing people. They translated their secret "black book" and even opened some of their ceremonies to outsiders.

SLIDESHOW: Sect in the crosshairs

Still, every time I asked what they believed I got somewhat different answers. While they had decided they needed to make their secret religion less secret, some were not so convinced.

I watched a ceremony in a village in the Sinjar Mountains surrounding a brass peacock - one of the seven the Yazidis believed God handed the first Yazidis directly - a representation of the archangel Michael in his form as the peacock angel. It's an oral tradition in which many of the rituals and beliefs are entrusted only to males - and only when they come of age. But one thing they firmly believe is that they were the first men.

Even more than most religions, they have a complicated relationship with God - the bottom line is that they know God is forgiving but Satan is not - and while they don't worship him, they make clear that they respect his power. So much so that Yazidis don't ever say his name or utter words starting with the letters 'sh' - the same sound that begins the word for Satan. They also don't wear the color blue, eat lettuce or wear ties with collars - all going back to their beliefs about the fallen angel to whom they pay homage.

"Science is our enemy," one of the elders told me. In some of the most traditional of Yazidi communities, education is discouraged. A 14-year-old girl in one village I went to told me she'd never been to school. It was considered "shameful" for girls to be educated, she said.

They've been persecuted for centuries and in times of trouble they retreat to the mountains and the caves. During the war near Dohuk, close to the Turkish border, when I was looking for Yazidi communities,

I found some had literally moved underground - in caves underneath villages that had been leveled by Saddam Hussein's forces during his attacks against the Kurds.

Under Saddam Hussein they survived by not making waves. Saddam, whose

Baath party was originally secular, didn't care what religion they were as long as they weren't a threat to him. Now there's a new threat to these people practicing a religion they believe is as old as man.

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Are you kidding me? I mean is no one paying attention here? Jesus H. Christ what kind of animals are we dealing with. And what the hell is the Muslim world even doing or saying about it? Oh that's right Nothing-just like they've always done. They're too busy building their extravagant islands and hotels-when they aren't blowing each other up that is.
The entire group makes me sick to my stomach. There's nothing honorable or charitable in any of them, and quite frankly if I was a Muslim-I would be ahamed. Or maybe not, I'd probably be too busy blaming everyone else except my own people. That's their particular right of passage isn't it? It's been going on for the last 2000 years, why stop now?
Whatever-I'm sick to death of the entire situation-and this just takes the cake. They are the worst as far as I'm personally concerned. They just committed a full genocide on their own people-totally unbeliavable to me, and the fact that NO ONE is doing anything, (most especially not Muslims) not just the USA but worldwide makes me ill.
Now another so called Religious sect. How many are there & I for one care less as like every snowflake or grain of sand "NO TWO ARE ALIKE" nor any better than the other. There is but one Supreme being & whatever your belief is not one person in this world knows who it is & that is sacred & whomever can worship a snail & as long as they are believers it is their belief. However cast not your so callled Sacredness upon me. Nor on others.
That's what this world needs. Another paternalistic organization that believes they are the "ones."
How cool!  Not about them dying, that's horrible, but that they exist at all.  A pre-islamic peoples who never converted to Islam, no matter where they live.  That takes guts and determination. Plus true belief.  I'm into ancient peoples and their religions, and I had never heard of them till today.  And how sad, the way I did learn of these people.  They are probably not long for this world now.  I do hope an anthropologist or historian can win their trust, so we can learn more about them soon, before they are gone.  It would be like suddenly finding a group pf Aztecs still around and doing things the old way.  What a way to learn first hand about people we mainly have to guess about.
At least they are not nutcases like the muslim fundamentalists who only want to slit the throats of "infidels".
It's hard to imagine a group of people, the Yazidis, with such a belief system. We still have so much to learn about in our world. Who is right?
Dear Jane, In listening to the video I was not surprised to hear you state that one cannot just walk around Iraq and talk to people anymore. And not just for foreigners, but for Iraqi's. You said that they don't travel between neighborhoods because it may only be safe enough to stay in their own neighborhood. This country in is desperate need of a functioning government and like you said with participation with Sunnis and Shiites. With regards to this community of  Yazidis and their struggle in society it is sometimes difficult to relate to such an ancient way of living. But they did try to open up their religion and not be so secretive. Some of the elders may not want to open up the religion and it beliefs to outsiders and that can be a problem for the future generations. One can only hope that all will eventually find peace within their religious beliefs and their country. All have struggled and suffered for too long. Please stay safe and well Jane! And stay safe everyone in the Baghdad Bureau! You do wonderful reporting! Peace to all!  
When will it end?
The fundamental flaw of Islam is its refusal to acknowledge the rights of the individual to thier own religous beliefs. The Islamic world must denounce and act against this narrow minded fundamentalizm.If they fail to do so there will be more massacres and atrocities like we saw today. This will be a lesson learned through the blood of thosands of innocents regardless their religous affilliation.
worshipping a peacock angel, stoning and refusing to educate girls...paying homage to the devil..(shaking my head). Lord help them...
It really does take balls to stand up in defiance the way they have. I can respect that.
That is the problem with Islam that US and UK have been denying: They will do this to us if they have the opportunity. Even though the christians, the atheists and the agnostics allow them to practice their religion in the west, they never believe that others have the same right. These people, the Yazizdis were not Americans or Europeans or Sunnis or Shites, yet they slaughtered them in the name of Allah (islamic sucide bombers believe Allah will reward them in paradise for killing infidels). have you seen any outrage in Dearborn or LA from the muslim community over this? Muslims are even safer in this country than in their own countries.
I find it hard to admire a religion that allows a young girl to be stoned to death just because she converted to another religion and had a muslim boyfriend as noted in the link to this story.  It sounds more like a cult that enforces its beliefs through threats of violence and discouraging education.  
Its pathetic... not what the story reads but what you people are saying about them. You all call yourselves "good christain people" yet are unwilling to look past the fact that it is dealing with things that the western culture is not willing to accept, even though to these people it is the right thing to do. You can not persecute people for what they believe in, the one time our government did was in the 1840's. Im hardcore LDS but i commend these people for sticking to their guns and doing what they believe in is right.
And to VA from San Diego- that is one of the most rascist ignorant and ethinically purged things i have heard someone say in a long time. How dare you state that the muslim religion is wrong and how they should be ashamed of themselves, unlike a majority of christains here in the US they at least follow the gospel and what their religion teaches them to do.
There must be a reason for all the "snowflakes".  Each person is also a snowflake, individual DNA, fingerprint; so why do we as humans create such a fuss over differences.  God started it off by making the first two humans different.  Why don't we do what Covey says:  First seek to understand, and then what Christ said:  Love thy neighbor.  Pretty simple but boy have we humans screwed it up.
Oh that all of man would come to the knowledge of the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ.He said "In this will all men know that you are my followers,that you would love each other as I have loved you!what peace this world would see.
What about the Yazidis' narrow minded fundamentalism? Didn't you read about the stoning, and how Yazidis can only marry other Yazidis? From my experience, calling a religion "narrow-minded' is redundant.
Christopher Hitchens got it right when he said
"religion poisons everything."
Who cares what religion the practice THEY WERE HUMAN BEINGS FIRST AND FOREMOST. HERE AGAIN THE RELIGION OF PIECE SHOWS  THE WORLD WHAT IT CAN DO IN THE HANDS OF MURDERERS.SUICIDE BOMBER MY BEHIND THIS WAS A COLD BLOODED MURDERER !!! Some one should bury him in a pig skin so he can't go to his so called paradise. there cannot be a religion anywhere that would promise paradise to an ANIMAL THAT WOULD ORDER OR CARY OUT AN ORDER WHERE ALL THESE PEOPLE COULD DIE.And you want to let up on these animals when we should be turning up the heat.WHERE ARE ALL THE MODERATES AND THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS ALL OVER THE MIDDLE EAST NOW??WHY HAS NO ONE CALLED THESE PEOPLE WHAT THEY ARE  "MURDERERS" NOT "MARTYRS" BABY KILLERS !!COWARDS OF THE WORST KIND THE KIND THAT MURDERS UNARMED WOMEN AND CHILDREN.THE KIND THAT CAN ONLY CRAWL ON THEIR BELLIES AT NIGHT SO THAT THE COWARDS CAN KILL CHILDREN. PARADISE IS NOT IN  THEIR FUTURE THE ONLY THING THEY DESERVE IS AN UNENDING STAY IN HELL. COWARD IS TOO GOOD A WORD FOR THESE SLIME BALLS BUT WE ARE IN MIXED COMPANY.I HOPE WHOEVER IS THE NEW PRESIDENT AFTER PRES BUSH HAS SPINE ENOUGH TO HUNT THESE BASTARDS DOWN AND KILL THEM AND THEIR WHOLE FAMILY SO THEY CAN FEEL THE PAIN THEY HAVE INFLICTED ON OTHERS. ANIMALS,COWARDS,*&^%*)(%#
The fundamental flaw of Christianity is its refusal to acknowledge the rights of the individual to thier own religous beliefs. The Christian world must denounce and act against this narrow minded fundamentalizm.If they fail to do so there will be more massacres and atrocities like we saw today. This will be a lesson learned through the blood of thosands of innocents regardless their religous affilliation.
Those who gave up Zarathustra for Mohammed made a very poor choice.  "The good thought...The good word...the good deed."  Difficult to improve on that.
While I see this "sudden discovery" as interesting, the making public of this ancient sect and their beliefs to us ignorant people, will ultimately doom its "religious purity". The Christians will try to indoctrinate some of its lesser beliefs into its religion. The Muslims will say "we can all live together", while they will use Jihadists to clean out these smaller pockets-(genocide). Will someone please publish its religious beliefs and stories before its too late.    
I believe its time we stop paying attention to religous sensitivities and judge people for who/what they are - did we stop bombing Nazi snipers out of Churches in Europe because they were Christian?  Did we not firebomb Tokyo because of Shinto Shrines? Bottom line - the fact we are making Islam more important than other religions, and allowing special rules to dictate foreign policy and military action putting our citizens lives at risk because of this. Do we think we would have won WWII with these stupid rules? We need to view these terrorists nhilists as the scum they are and their actions represent - or we are destined to fail, and we will pass along a more dangerous world to our children.
A group that makes Islamic fundamentalists seem progressive? Hard to believe, but maybe you've found it. I think it is a shame that the Western world allows sovereignty to peoples who behave in such backward ways. Governments should only be allowed that are free from religion.
The sad part is, everyone here is quick to judge the way the Muslims approach other religions, but surprisingly, no one notices that Christianity is almost as bad.  Sure, eventually they got away from burning pagans at the stake, enslaving native populations and destroying their culture, or marching into the Holy Land and starting the war with the Muslims to begin with...but so many of them think that not only is their version of God the only one, but that fact makes them more right and holier than other Americans.  This "blessed state" gives them the right to dictate what we see on TV, what is ok in music and art, denying rights to whole groups of people because they are different, and trying to push science back into the dark ages.  (ok, well, not really medicine, because they are more than happy to listen to their doctors...but the rest of science is bunk. <cough>).  Are people in this country really so blind to think that letting our Constitution be raped and supplanted by a specific religion makes us no better than the Muslim countries we profess to hate?  Let us become a Theocracy and see how long it takes for these type of news articles to be focused on our country...maybe they will be wiping out the gays...or Mormons...or Buddhists.

This is a sad story, and as someone who went to school for cultural anthropology, I really hope that someone can capture their history and beliefs before it is too late.  It is in our diversity that we find the true artwork of the Divine...by whatever name you choose to call it.
Ignorance, lack of knowledge, brain washed,,,,, the typical qualities attributed only to Americans is well reflected by all of the above comments. May be when you'll have a life other than to worry about mortgages, sex, taxes, selfish rush for money, celebrities, and media propaganda only, then, one can hope for some sanity and rationale from you.

Its better to shush up if you haven't a clue of what you're talking about.
Intolerance of different groups such as the Yazidis is the ultimate in hubris.  Muslims committing suicide attacks must believe they are justified, but I can not conceive that, when they come to the "Pearly Gates", or whatever their religion calls the entry into heaven, that, with all of their innocent victims also seeking entry, that they (the attackers) will not be going the other way.  Any religion presenting the case to the contrary is a religion of perhaps not fools, but at the very least extraordinarily gullible individuals willing to embrace evil as good.
Once again we see the evil of religion, ALL RELIGION!!
There is no invisible old man floating above us, watching all of our insanity, which is CAUSED by the absurd belief in that floating old man. We will kill each other until we grow up, and stop fearing the darkness. There is no god, there never has been a god, and even if there was a god, if it allowed this to happen, then its name is EVIL! Stop worshipping evil, and believe in, and help people, they are all that matter.
The religious mind is much the same as the poetic mind: it immediately "surrounds" the emergence of the Sacred within any given culture with the metaphors available to the religious mind from that culture.  All religions differ in their metaphors, and in that "region" of the Sacred that has emerged for them in their own place and time, in response to whatever crisis that particular people were enduring at the time of the emergence.  On the other hand, all religions are "the same" in the ultimate nature of the One they have encountered. The problem comes with the wooden-minded -- and religious folks have no "corner" on that market! -- cannot distinguish metaphorical language from more rigidly "defined" language.

Given that, I find the Yazidis fascinating, and like many here, hope and pray anthropologists (with some religious sensitivities, btw; ones who realize this is a way of life anchored in the deepest regions we know in the human soul) will "capture" this rich culture before it disappears entirely, or, what could be even worse in a way, before it becomes just another consumer item.

Personally I see nothing endemic to Islam that lies behind this atrocity. (We) Christians have our own list of horrors throughout history, and in turn have always managed to find ample biblical "precedent" to "justify" the horrors.  The problem at this particular moment, or so it would seem to me, is that there is no "highest authority" in Islam -- be it a person and/or an office, and/or creeds and confessions that are accepted as normative interpretations of the faith ... and accordingly that make clear where legitimate interpretations (and consequent behaviors) end and illegitimate interpretations (and consequent behaviors) begin.  A powerful appeal in Islam is its simplicity.  Ironically, in times like ours, that also may be a problem: ours is anything but a simple world, and authoritative nuances are needed desperately.
Bill Rodd wrote:  "At least they are not nutcases like the muslim fundamentalists who only want to slit the throats of 'infidels'."  And Teannah wrote:  "And how sad, the way I did learn of these people.  They are probably not long for this world now."

I wonder if Bill and Teannah checked out the link to the article that recounted the stoning of a teen-age girl by these Yazidi animals.  This act is abhorrent beyond belief, and I shudder to think what I might be personally capable of, if it were given into my hands to punish the men who did this. In this *particular* instance, the girl and the men who stoned her were not Islamic.  They were Yazidi, savage people who could gather in a howling group and pitch cinder blocks at a young girl.  *For a half hour* until she finally died.  Still, Islamic people also carry out similarly barbaric "honor" killings.  I wish that people would stop calling them "honor" killings, because if any human act is totally devoid of honor, it's these killings.  And I'm tired of hearing the crap, "Oh, you just don't understand the cultural differences."  I'm sick of it.  Jane Arraf can mewl over the barbarians all she wants.  Some things are reprehensible and inhuman in *any* age, in *any* culture.  Here's one example.

God almighty, it's all just to awful to contemplate.  I have no faith left in humanity.

Lune
In a matter of hours we should begin to hear the Democratic spin on how we are to blame for the tragic genocide in Irag. The Muslums the world over will be silent as they mumble pathetic wispers of persecution, denigration and degradation by the west and their loss of power and influence of millenia ago, while I sit at work pondering my draft age childrens fate in the big war to come. As we again get front seats in the eternal battle of peoples murdering in the name of their God. What a pathetic bunch we all have become.
David L.
The Zoroastrians were very early believers in God. Let them practice their religion in peace.
Another religion what a surpise! Not really. I was thought it your faith was worth anything you told people about it...not the other way around. Strange? I'm sorry that the who area is insane to me. I'm hopeful that once we leave they can continue their crusaides and we can read about the underdeveloped contries in the world that we once thought we could help. It is time to move on people.
I remember back in April watching the grainy video of the beautiful young girl being stoned to death by the men of her own village.  How repulsed I was at this spectacle. I did not understand at the time that a non-muslim sect was reponsible.  Now the sect has been given a dose of retaliation, times 500 or so. As we read the about the bizarre beliefs of this sect, let us not forget about our own "sects" who believe the earth was created in its present form 6,000 years ago, a virgin gave birth to a holy man who walked on water, was later killed, rose from the dead, and then flew up into the clouds body and all. The fanaticism with which humans believe these moronic religious tenets posed no problem when the peoples of the world were isolated from one another.  Now however, we have reached the 'Tipping point". The era of instantaneous communication and easy travel has created a very small world indeed, and has multipled exponentially the potential for cross-cultural conflict. And we ain't seen nuthin' yet.  Wait till global warming kicks in - the geopolitical changes wrought by rapid climate change will be devastating.      
I hope they take the fight to the muslims.  Lets arm them, train them, and let them reak havoc in Iraq, then we'll see how the wakco-muslims like being tagets.

We in America have this idea that the rest of the world thinks like we do--peace, love, getting along with everyone--problem is when you deal with people who still think they live in the 1400's, there is no way to stop the violence.  
To Karachi, Pakistan

Ignorance, lack of knowledge, brain washed,,,,, the typical qualities attributed only to Americans is well reflected by all of the above comments. May be when you'll have a life other than to worry about mortgages, sex, taxes, selfish rush for money, celebrities, and media propaganda only, then, one can hope for some sanity and rationale from you.

Its better to shush up if you haven't a clue of what you're talking about.
Imran Ahmad, Karachi, Pakistan (Sent Wednesday, August 15,

You are right, I for one have no clue as to killing because of my religious beliefs or border disbutes.  And yet millions have come here.  go figure.
Please remember that we are all made in the image and likeness of our Creator, whether we recognize it or not.  Whether we are believers or non-believers in any religious tradition is, in the eyes of God, meaningless--we are all human beings with the same rights and responsibilities to each other.  Let us hope that we will all come to realize the dignity that is inherent in each of us simply by virtue of the fact that we are human beings.  May the Almightly forgive us for all the evil that we have done to one another.
MANDRE B ROBERTS DALLAS TEXAS

IT IS PAINFULLY CLEAR THAT EVERYONE ON THIS BEAUTIFUL EARTH, CAN NOT JUST ENJOY THE GIFT OF LIFE. I DARE EVEN ONE OF YOU CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS, OR EVEN YAZIDIS TO PROVIDE UNBIAS UNQUESTIONABLE PROOF THAT YOUR RELIGION IS THE ONE! IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. HOWEVER IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO BELEIVE IN WHATEVER... BUT WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF EVERYONES EYES..IS OUR WONDERFUL OPPORTUNUITY OF LIFE. THIS GIFT...IS OUR ONE CHANCE TO MEET , LOVE, AND HOPEFULLY LEARN EVERYTHING WE CAN ABOUT EACH OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, AND THEIR WAY OF LIFE. THIS IRREFUTABLE, THIS IS THE SOLE PURPOSE OF LIFE..TO PROVE THAT WE "DESERVE" SOMETHING BETTER...KILLING PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS ON THE PATH OF SALVATION, AN IMPOSSIBLE SUBJECT TO PROVE...IS NOT IT
I was raised to believe that both your political affiliation and your religious belief were private matters.  They were not discussed with others, even if those others believed (or professed to believe) the same as you.  I will never understand why people of all walks (funndamentalists, evangelicals, militant groups, or even people writing commentary on a website) shove their religious tenets into the face of the world.  Is your faith in what you say you believe so shaky that you need the corroboration of others in order to feel more secure?  The American Sheeple do feel safer in the herd, and what a sad faith that is.  As far as politics, I find it terribly high-handed that anyone dares to assume they know what another culture, or another government, "needs to do" in order to fix the "problem".  Remember, the true god of these United Stated is Capitalism. Any other religion is second place. How can we presume to reconcile the differences of cultures far older than our own when we have such glaring discrepancies at home?  Our sanctimonious behavior didn't start their problems, but it certainly waved it arms and said "Hey, over here!"
This area is the seat of ancient civilization!! (think Mesopotamia) The Sumerians and where are the Assyrians? Christian religion has only been around for 2007 years and you think you are right and know the way? Muslims, Jews and christians all have the same god!!! Two have different messiahs and one has not come yet! It is a different reading of the same book! Do not forget the Inquisitions!! AND BY GOD ANY GOD AT ALL DO NOT FORGET THE NATIVE AMERICANS WHOSE GENOCIDE BY CHRISTIANS GOES BY WITHOUT A MENTION!!! MANIFEST DESTINY MY A#$
A people who pay homage to a fallen Angel?
A people with no educated females?
A people who stone a young woman who would want to marry outside the sect?
I hate that these people were targeted for murder, because of their beliefs. There are no winners here, only losers.  
the voilence in iraq is caused by the US - a big christian country that killed thousands of people and destroyed one of the middle eastern best countries in terms of anciant wisdon. Iraq was one of the most advanced nations in middle east.  what really make me sad is the above comments looks like an indoctirinated hatred against muslims wheathe secular or deeple religious.
THe big cristian and secular nations practice racism when they attacked those nations in arab, asians, and african who cannot defend them selves. Iraq was never threat to those countries. ALqiada was small group of idiots like thousands of groups that exists in the western countries who are christians.
How awful the genocide; the death of children and their families. This made worse by many thoughtless and heartless comments submitted here. My heart is with those survivors who must bear the awful grief and pain.

Leaving religion aside momentarily, we see one group murder hundreds of their Iraqi countrymen because they didn't like their THINKING. No outrage? No comments of concern from thoe enlightened middle-eastern rulers and mullahs?

Muslims, now pull up that comforting blanket of Islam, worn threadbare by an historic creed of violence and murder. So which Muslim group was it that actually DID the devils work? They of course deserve reward by Satan in his paradise.




It's all George Bush's fault. If he hadn't taken out Saddam, this would have never happened. Saddam would not have let this happen, or at least would have covered it up. Hopefully Hillary will straighten it out when she becomes the president.
Yikes,

So much of the world is ill. Yazidis are another example of the power that evil has to corrupt the souls of man. Every time a sect emerges it seems to exert unrighteous dominion over weak minded souls. The poor  in spirit and oppressed people are heavy laden with the the burden of any movement (no matter how old) that exploits them.

We are trying so hard to destroy the family of man. This is another sad testimony. God is God, not a metaphor for deity, not to be had for our good use. We need a planetary time-out from hate. It won't happen as long as we treat hate as a profitable enterprise.

Daniel
Don't know what type of Christianity you refer to. When we love others, we respect their right to believe as they will. Actions may be judged, not people. Have a GREAT day. Tonkawa-Bill        ...       [ The fundamental flaw of Christianity is its refusal to acknowledge the rights of the individual to thier own religous beliefs. The Christian world must denounce and act against this narrow minded fundamentalizm.If they fail to do so there will be more massacres and atrocities like we saw today. This will be a lesson learned through the blood of thosands of innocents regardless their religous affilliation.
Lucrecia Borgia, Vatican City (Sent Wednesday, August 15, 2007 5:57 PM)
This is just too much to bear alone anymore.  The world community has got to come together and stop these horrendous, murderous thugs of humanity.  It is time for all good nations to band together and rid the world of the Islamic muslim fascists intent overpowering the world in the name of Satan by bringing hell, fire and damnation to anything and everybody in their way.  Sooner or later, God is going to take a stand and may He have mercy on their souls.
To vega from san diego and john florida  i'm really ashamed to see such racists rants against muslims,
i'm a muslim and denounce these acts like everyone else or more, according to our religion killing a innocent no matter which RELIGION is like killing the rest of the world and there's no forgiveness from Allh for these kind of acts.  Muslim community is to blamed for not having a media like the western world that can put out the feelings of muslims, their leaders and priests.  western media just shows news that it thinks is interesting to its people and keep the ratings up.  everyone of my friend and family who's a muslim condemn these heinous acts.  when i'm rich enough i would get a news channel and show the real news.
for that matter even america is built on bloodshed what happened to native americans by whites i wouldn't want it come upon any human race in comparison this al-qda is like a drop in the ocean of bloodshed.  before i forget(yawn) don't forget the crusaders and catholics in the centuries gone.  so plz don't blame islam for what a handful of politically driven nuts are doing in the name of islam.  Imran from karachi you're so right.
except for a handful of americans it useless to talk to them.  watching tv, copying celebrities, self indulgence and ignorance are the only things that they do.
now MSNBC you better publish this one. if you don't i'll know that you don't to put a muslims feeling in front of these people plus i watch all your news from morning till evening from chris jansing to dan abrams though i like to only watch chris matthews.

I can't help but wonder what ever happend to the story about the day God made us all indiviuals, and gave us free will. He did not say go kill someone becasue they do not believe exactly the same as another human. There is on right or wrong religion because God made us all different and long as no one gets hurt and you have the freedom to choose, then there should not be an issue. The problem is someone put men in charge and that totally screwed it all up.... Men want the power and glory and it has nothing to do with God what so ever. How can you look yourself in the mirror and say you beleive in God when you just killed another human beign because they choose to be something other than you. It's just shameful a young women had to die becasue of your idiodic beliefs. Or should I say your power, becasue thats what it comes down to. If you loose someone you lost the control and the power not the Religion.... Stop hiding behind religion and get to the heart of the truth here. As far as how women are treated all over the world, they should stand up and say it loud. WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE. You men are morans. Just remember God my had put you here first but with us women you would not be here today. There is no way on this God's green earth that I would ever allow a man to treat me in the mannor you treat your women. This is the year 2007. Get real... I am sick to death off all this talk. My son is in Irag fighting for what, so you all can kill each other anyways. Just stop the madness. I have a solution all you so called religious fanatics why don't all you go out into the steets line up and kill each other and than let the women take over. They will do a much better job than you. You think about power and glory we think about freedom and caring for our fellow humans no matter what religion we are. And for all the women out there that are mind controlled I truely feel sorry for you. As for you men just shut up give it up and let peolpe have there freedom back. This is just sicken, enough is enough. I am sorry to tell you there is NOT BUT ONLY ONE TRUE RELIGION. GOD DID NOT MAKE US TO THINK THAT WAY. And for all you sucide bommers you are nothing but cowards, men with no B - - -s. You can not stand up against an army so you have to kill innocent woman and childern in my book you are no man. The woman in the good ole USA would stand up against you and you would still run and hide like cowards..... You make me sick.... I am just glad that God is on my side..Any one that kills another for religious beleifs are working for Satan not God..
Wow! Way Cool! I might not agree with their ideas of not educating females and not marrying outside their sect (or stoning-horrible) but isn't that their right? Isn't that what the US Constitution meant when it wrote that we had the fundemental right to practice the religion (or not) of our choice? I was raised Catholic but am not a follower. I believe that there is a supreme being-Good- as well as its conterpart- Evil-everything has to balance in life. We have no right, as Westerners or what ever we choose to call ourselves(this includes those in the Middle East and the rest of the world), to judge them because of what they believe. Americans have forgotten the genocide attempted on US soil towards the indigenous people who lived here, freely I might add, until we came to conquer their land in what was stated as our "God given right". Man made that coice, not God (or whatever you choose to believe) and man makes the choice to war or to love. It is that simple people-make a choice-Love or hate. One leads to harmony and the other to wars, suicide bombings and genocide. Did you know that the current Dalai Lama asked the US to help durning the Chinese invasion of his country and we did not lift a finger. He is one of the wisest people I know and he oversees his country in exile. The Chinese murdered and raped monks and nuns, stole gold and land from a country that never fought a war, wasn't materialist and might have been considered backwards to us Americans. They fought because they had to-it was their country, not China's and had been ruled, compasionately and fairly by the Dalai Lama(and his reincarnates) for centuries. They were peaceful yet they were tortured and no one came to help-they snunk out the current Dalai Lama in 1959 disguised in a Chinese military uniform. He almost died but that Supreme Being we so highly prize and profess belief in was looking out for him. Will that Surpreme being do any less for the Yazidi? I believe  that Surpreme Being is looking out for them because we now know of them. Maybe we don't approve of their practices as we did not approve of early Morman polygomy but do we have the right to just sit back and watch them die due to genocide? I say no we don't have that right, any more than we have the right to judge them for their beliefs. Wake up people and open your minds-it could be you next time, could be your state, your country-9-11 was proof of that. Open your minds and your hearts-we have already forced one group of people to live on "reservations" and killed them off so that there are few left who remember their old ways and their beliefs and they struggle to hold on to them and make them known to any who wish to know them. The Yazidis are trying to do that too, but we have to give them time and space. All things change-including religions-over time. Wait and see. Say what you will but I will hope and pray for their survival for one day it could be me and mine. Peace and Love people, Peace and Love
PS I hope this actually gets published; it is the biggest statement I have made against injustice since Vietnam ( I am aware of Rhawanda, Dafur, and others around the world so do not think I am an idiot-just tired of it and spoke out and will speak again you can bet on it!) and I was 11 then, I am 47 now and still believe in the power of Peace and Love and I AM A HUMAN ANIMAL-Homo Sapien-and not always proud of our species but Darwin said everything evolves-maybe one day we will.


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