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'Candor' from the top commander in Iraq

Posted: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 3:16 PM
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On a trip with Gen. David Petraeus, the U.S. military commander in Iraq, over the weekend, I asked him about reports that he and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki were on such bad terms that Maliki had asked for him to be replaced.

"It’s nonsense to think he’s ever asked," Petraeus said as we sat down and talked in an abandoned wool factory turned into a combat outpost west of Baghdad. "We actually have a very good relationship."

But that doesn’t mean they haven’t had their moments. Petraeus said he and Maliki had had serious disagreements over the issue of reining in Shiite militias, but that had been several months ago. "These are tough issues and sometimes they require a degree of candor."

VIDEO: General worries about withdrawal
As for the report that Maliki had complained to Bush about Petraeus during a video conference, Petraeus said he had sat in on every one of those video conferences since he’s been here.

Officials on both sides say the reports of stormy relations are greatly exaggerated.

There is, though, a clash of personalities as well as cultures.

‘No soft edges’
Petraeus, widely considered brilliant, is demanding and driven. "There are no soft edges," said one of his colleagues who said Petraeus tends to offend Maliki’s sense of pride by not observing the elaborate Arab rules of courtesy.

Maliki, repeatedly told he’s in charge of a sovereign country but bombarded with instructions from American officials, often bristles at the U.S. demands.

Petraeus is updated by his commanders every morning on progress around the country – everything from significant attacks to electricity levels to construction projects. He absorbs the detailed charts instantly, zeroing in with questions often meant to determine what’s going wrong as well as what’s going right.

As the man who wrote the book on counterinsurgency, overseeing with a Marine general the first revision in decades to the military’s manual on how to fight unconventional wars, Petraeus implemented a lot of those lessons long before they were policy – in fact before the military admitted there was an insurgency. When I covered him in Mosul in 2003 and 2004, he was already reaching out to tribes and ex-Iraqi Army generals who had served under Saddam.

When he can, he gets out to the farthest reaches of Iraq to talk to soldiers and Iraqis and see for himself how things are going.

I was covering the war from northern Iraq in 2003, unembedded, when Petraeus first arrived as commander of the 101st Airborne. In those days, I’d drop by for a chat and if he was going somewhere interesting, we’d hop on his helicopter with him. Those days are long gone. Media coverage now is a carefully orchestrated production.

That was part of the reason why we found ourselves following him around over the weekend as he talked to soldiers and visited markets in the rural area of Abu Ghraib. Attacks have dropped there since tribes teamed up with the U.S. Army to fight al-Qaida.

Jane Arraf/ NBC News
Gen. David Petraeus, the U.S. military commander in Iraq, speaks with a local man in the Abu Ghraib area west of Baghdad about the security situation in his neighborhood.

Still a sense of humor
It was one of those places where Iraqi men hanging around in the 120-degree Fahrenheit heat give soldiers and reporters wary looks, as if they’re not sure yet whether the insurgents or the Americans are going to win and they’re still hedging their bets.

Petraeus though, surrounded by his personal security detail, seemed completely relaxed, walking around with a soft cap rather than his helmet and chatting with shopkeepers and people in the street.

Petraeus was introduced to one local man who had four wives – permitted under Islam.

"Four wives!" Petraeus said. "And I thought I had a heavy rucksack to carry."

It may not translate that well, but he does have a pretty good sense of humor.

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i think that things are looking better in on the front' with a little luck we will get a grip on the problems that have troubled us in the past.but our politicians need to start looking a little more positive on the war it could all blow back in their faces.they have invested so much in an American loss that their might be no coming back from it.God bless our troops and the people of Iraq.
My son served with the general in 2003 and 4 he described him as the Energizer Bunny on Speed. He also said if anyone can change Iraq it would be General Petraeus. I do hope my son was correct.
Dear Jane, If progress can be made in small area due to our troops being there then I approve of what General Petraeus is doing. I think he knows best what is going on in the region more than the politicians. I just hope for peace for the people of Iraq and the safety of our troops. Everyone involved is finding this situation difficult to work out, but someday peace will win. Peace to all!
Over 4 yrs. now. Longer then we were in the big one, world war two. The disaster about this war is the fact that we will never be able to define what a WIN, really is.bush says when the Iraq police force is able to fend for itself, this is it. Does this fool really think that the civil war that is happening right now will go away when we leave.In truth, I do believe that when we, as occupiers in a hostile land do get out, the sides will have no other recourse but to come to grips with the prob. and perhaps work it out better then if we stay.
It would have been good to have had this team led by Petraeus from the get go. The problem is, there never should have been a get go. I remember my mother saying, "oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive", when my brothers and I would try to lie out of something. Bush's deception got us into this mess and the situation has gotten progressively worse as time has gone by.  If the Iraqi's can't find the will to come together and have a workable government of their own, we will not be able to impose our version of democracy, regardless of Petraeus, or any other military commander. Will things get worse when we leave? Probably, until another strongman takes control. Since the time of Alexander the Great that has been the history of that region. We have no business being in the middle of their civil war. There really was a reason Bush I did not go to Baghdad.
Peace will come when we leave Iraq and when we stop trying to impose our culture on themn.
Let's hope General Petraeus will use his "candor" with the American People and tell the truth about what's going on over there instead of simply repeating Bush's GOP approved talking points. It's really hard to believe anyone associated with or appointed by Bush, Bush has lost all credibility with the American Public and Betrayus (that's the common nickname used for Petraeus) is seen as nothing more than another mouthpiece for the administration by many. Whether it's true or false doesn't matter, the perception is he will tell us what Bush wants him to tell us and nothing more. Bush wants the war to continue until he is out of office and America fully expects for the "Betrayus" report in September to say: stay the course, they need "more time", regardless of whether there has been any political reconciliation or progress on stopping the civil war in Iraq.
I agree that Patreaus is the best solution for Iraq.  I can appreciate Maliki's consternation; but he simply cannot do it alone.  I hope they can continue to work together productively.  I am from a large family, and sometimes we "hated" each other - but that never stopped us from being there for each other every time we were needed.
What?  The statement "Media coverage now is a carefully orchestrated production" is complete BS.  The media has incredibly open access - for example take a look at Michael Yon's web page.  He is an independent (not Main Stream Media) that went on a mission just today - where he was the only reporter that even wanted to go.  He does this every day.
Gen.Petraeus is a genius and Maliki is a complete idiot so the fact that they disagree is not at all  surprising.I'm afraid congress will eventually find a way to abandon the Iraqi people and all the progress we've made thus far will be for nothing.I've been a strong supporter of this war from the beginning but the Iraqi government taking a month off without  meeting even the most minor benchmark really bothers me, our young men die while they take a time out?I've got to say there's something very wrong with that.  
Jane,
Thanks for this blog on Gen Petraeus. I am glad to know he has no "soft edges". The military now needs to provide the leadership the politicians lack. Soft edges need not apply.

It was said some time ago that diplomacy precedes war, but when war becomes necessary, let the soldiers do what they do best (a paraphrase on my part). It doesn't matter that the Clintons' and Edwards' now say they lament their vote in Congress. They made the vote. Let the soldier do his job and back him to the end. Let him right your mistake.

General Petraeus, with the fine American soldiers that surround him, will get the job done, if the politicians will just get out of the way (this is Vietnam deja vu all over again). There is a simple expression for it for it in the military: lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.

At the same time, wars are not won by Generals, they are won by Privates, Corporals, Sergeants, Lieutenants and Captains. They are the ones that lead and create success. Petraeus will not be successful unless those Sergeants and Captains are. So if this fails, you can't blame Petraeus; the military will not have failed. If the politicians keep interfering, they will have failed...again.

What we don't need is people making decisions that affect our boys today, when those people, for the most part, have never stood a day in any boots, let alone our boys'.

Personally I think a tour in uniform would clear the minds of many of the decision makers. Perhaps we should amend the Constitution so that any public office holder must have served. Maybe the decisions could be more based in reality. As it is, we have folks who have never bent over to pick up a single piece of trash deciding if the garbage collectors are doing their jobs.

God Bless America,

Art Myrick, 1SG, US Army (Retired)
thank you general! an old LRRP the nam era

REPRIMEND is a word we Hispanics use for a child being a brad how can be reprimended what it cause a human life? the military kill Tillman is simples is that he should be stripped of his range and kick ou of the Army I can't believ the life of a soldier who went to fight for our country ended that way killed not by the enbemy but form his own people and he is REPRIMENDED? well welcome to America I hope he will be happy and any remores is in his heart eat him for ever ,it is BALONEY where they find those militar laywers (liars)/....
Time is running out. Can General Patraeus deliver peace and stability in Iraq before Bush's term is over by the end of year 2008? I think it will take more time until some more years into next presidency but if the next president is a Democrat who will withdraw the troops, all his efforts will be in vain.
Why wasn't this man put in charge at the outset of this disaster?  If it can be done, I believe he will do it and not that moron Bush who lied and led us into this bottomless cesspool caled Iraq.
"...one of his colleagues who said Petraeus tends to offend Maliki’s sense of pride by not observing the elaborate Arab rules of courtesy.."

I hope this is not so.  If we ever needed "warrior statesmen", it is in Iraq, now.  Petraeus' understanding of insurgency warfare is legendary.  I pray he keeps the sensibilities of Iraquis, especially their leaders, foremost in his statesmanship.
I am sick of pres. bush but the shrill anti-victory crowd in washington are almost prancing as they jocky to get in front of the microphones and cameras to predict defeat for us and the iraqi's.  That's not where the American people area.  We just want to win and Petraeus approach is doing it.
Turning another corner?  How many times have we been told that.
Americans are looking for some one to step up and solve their problems.  There has been much damage done in Iraq. The general meet with the prime minister in a factory that made wool and is now a combat outpost.  five million Iraq's are now regugees one third are in need of clean water in Iraq. The inertia created by the invasion of Iraq and the subsequent mistakes and corruption have started a chain reaction of suffering in Iraq and the world.  As much as americans hope for short term gains in Iraq the reality is we have not seen the worst of war yet.
Having a General in command in Iraq who is described as brilliant, is indeed "brilliant". It is a sharp contrast and a welcome change to those previously placed in key command positions for reasons other than their "brilliance".  
you can keep shuffleing one yes man for another in iraq while bush looks for a way out or hold out till 'o8,,lol.. mox nix.. men like patton and bradley and alexander(the great)are long since 'politically incorrect'...
Last July there were 46 coalition deaths.  This July 82.  July 06 had one of the lowest death tolls of the year.  This July has one of the lowest death tolls of the year.  Maybe everyone stays indoors when it's 120 degrees like we do here in Arizona.  I don't understand why this is being touted as progress when there have been 35 more soldiers killed this year (after the "surge") than last year...come one people, don't buy the rhetoric again.
Arrogance and misplaced loyalty on George Bush's part resulted in blind faith on Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld in the early part of this conflict.  I think that if Gates and Petraeus were in place in 2004 (say roughly a year after the war started), and if we had skipped the Coalition Provision Authority (probably an honest mistake on the administration's part), it is quite possible that we could have completed the handover by now.  Unfortunately, putting Petraeus in this late in the game will ultimately significantly limit his effectiveness since the American public's patience (and accordingly Congress's patience) has pretty much run out.  George Bush has made too many appeals for patience in the past without making the necessary changes to earn the American public's confidence as he made those requests.

So it goes.
Because the U.S. is the world's superpower and has an over abundance of the world's most modern weapons, there is nothing the U.S. loves more than war; especially when it gets to attack weak 3rd world countries.  Yeehaw!!  Bring it on!!
Sue H...I have no idea who that nickname is "commonly used" by but I would venture to say it is not by anyone who has ever served with the man. There are things going on over there that we don't see but it isn't because of the President, it is because of the liberal media who refuses to report on the positive aspects of the operation. As far as losing credibility, I would think a photographer who wrote his own awards would lose it a lot quicker than someone who made a decision, stuck to that decision and saw it through till the end rather than flopping sides to whatever is popular at the time. The man is definitely a genius and for someone who never met him, served with him, and probably never served their country because that was a job for somebody else, to question his integrity is offensive to the proud men and women of our military!
Headline from the future:

President Chelsea Clinton Urges Patience in Iraq:

Next six months is crucial to US security.



Wait and see!
Amazingly, many people in this blog STILL think that the elements working to destabilize Iraqill somehow disappear when we do. They will not. Remember the 11 year Iraq/Iran war? Who won? No-one. Now, if we leave, who will win? Iran. THINK about the consequences in the region of an Iranian/Syrian controlled-Iraq!! I don't want us in there ,either-smells just like Nam to me. But, what if we just withdraw now? Another Darfur?
Conflict in a crisis requires firm command, and a command structure of sorts always arises in any time of crisis. Where will that command be coming from once the U.S. leaves Iraq? British commentators already are warning of increasing arms sales in the region to Iran and Syria by Russia, and of the potential for a complete take-over of the oil-rich area by Chinese interests in under 30 years, even with our military in place. How much faster will that go if China oculd say offer military support to Iraq's government in our absence? And why not? They could send 500,000 men in for a discount on oil, and never miss one of them!
Hey General, give 'em hell over there and don't listen to GWB and his stupid ideas, and foe Malaki to take his fair share, not for us, but for his countrymen and especially the children.

As for you, 1SGT Myrick, "I say Gary Owen", you are so right in the fact that, you say a good general is in charge over there, and I believe he really motivates his troops. Yes, the Captains, Lieutenants, Sergeants, Corporals and Privates get the job done, but they rely on an honest and forthright General to inspire them and not BS them. General Petraeus, thank God is not, Chesty Westy, by virtue of what I have read and studied thus far.

I pray for him and all the service personnel, who are there, were there, and will be ther, that they never suffer the indignations and come home the "Loser" as we and several million others did in VietNam. Unfortunately, money and power both have raised their ugly heads in this war, just as in VietNam, and I fear it is they who will win to the dettriment of our service personnel no matter there rank. My God, what has happened to all those magnificent men who served in WW II, did no one learn a thing from them or have we all got our heads in the sand?
Jane:
I cannot understand any American wanting us to loose
this war. However; it is readily apparent the Demacrats are putting politic above our national interest. And the Demacrats need for us to pull out, loose this war, or in their eyes they cannot win the White House. Anyone with any foresight can see it.
Now that is treason!!!
READ: "Confession's of an Economic Hit Man"
"Brilliant", driven guys who know better than everyone else are what got us into this mess in the first place.  I'll be laughing when Petraeus is proven to be no more successful than the last "brilliant" guy we sent there... Bremer.  Those who are so sure that the security situation can be improved or can lead to political progress are fools.  This corner of the world is one of the most violent on the planet.  In middle eastern "democracy" votes are counted with bullets, bombs and beheadings.  Look at how they celebrate their Asian Cup soccer victory... when a bomb doesn't kill dozens of innocents... celebratory bullets falling from the sky kill four.  No amount of American blood will create enough breathing space in Iraq for something as foriegn as democracy to take hold.  Where is this democracy supposed to come from.  Other than Israel, where in the middle east is there ANYTHING that resembles a democracy we can understand.  What ever happens after we leave... won't happen because we leave.  It will happen because we went in.  Why should we believe all the dire predictions if we "cut and run" from the same braintrust that got us into this mess.  Out now!!!
Nothing our soldiers do is going to fix the POLITICAL problems that the people in the Iraqi government have decided to allow to divide their country. It's easy for George Bush to order our military to fight and die. Bush's most important job is to get the Iraqi government to compromise and make politcal progress, and at this most important job Mr. Bush has been an abject failure. If they are so bound and determined to have a civil war, then let's get out of their way and let them find out what it takes to put a country together. Right now, our Soldiers and Marines are going house to house in the worst parts of Iraq to clear out bad guys, and Iraqi politicians have decided to take a vacation for the entire month of August. I'm supposed to be happy about the possiblilty that my family members might get killed over there while their politicians cower in the Green Zone? This is lunacy. We contained the Soviet Union for decades and now I'm told that we can't handle THESE guys? Please. Our best and brightest are being ground up over there, the least we owe them is competent political leadership, not arrogance and corruption masquerading as, "fighting for liberty". Let the Iraqi people fight their own war. Saving face is not worth the death of even one of our people, not to mention the $460 billion that we've spent making things worse for America's interests in the region than they were before we went in.    
Petraeus has been described as "brilliant," yet his ideas and policies have been largely unsuccessful. Anyone with an elementary understanding of counter-insurgency can tell you that it is imperitive to gain the support of the local population. However, our current tactics, which include kicking open doors, dropping bombs, and maintaining a visual control presence have only embittered the population against us. Likewise, the Haliburton-led reconstruction has been riddled with corruption. Our current policies in Iraq are largely counter-productive, and the surge was merely an escalation of those policies. The resulting rise in violence that followed is of no surprise. This was predicted by many of the Pentagon's top generals, and the fact that Petraeus was not among them really undermines his credibility as a commander. Likewise, his failure to observe local customs does not reflect very highly of his diplomatic skills, which are critical for a leader in his position.
THE GENERAL IS DOING WHAT HE IS PAID TO DO AND DOES IT VERY WELL. I HOPE HE DEFINES WHET A WIN IS, WHAT CONSTITUES SUCCESS, HOW THE IRAQI'S ARE BETTER OFF, AND HOW LONG IT TAKES TO TRAIN THE IRAQIS. NO ONE VER BRINGS UP THE NOTION THAT PERHAPS THEY DON'T NEED MORE TRAING , BUT THE WILL TO PERFORM WHAT THE US WANTS THEM TO PERFORM. HOW LOPNG DOES IT TAKE TO TRAIN THE INSURGENTS? TO ME THE DIFFERENCE IS WILL.
MAYBE THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOCK DOWN THEIR RELATIVE'S DOOR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. TRY AS WE MAY WE CANNOT IMPOSE OUR VALUES AND STANDARDS ON PEOPLE WHO HAVE A FREE WILL AND A DIFFERENT MINDSET. BEST OF LUCK GENERAL.
We suffered more casulties on D Day then we have in the past four years in Iraq. War is never easy or without loss to the country. We ( America ) have stood up against tyrrany and oppression many times in our history and the world is a better place for our doing so. Our country was terribly divided after the civil war ( some would say we still are. ) but look at what we have accomplished as a nation. The Iraqis are men and woemen with a national identity and they can probably lift themselves up too. We should not let the politicians run this war by pulling our troops out before Iraq is stabilized. It will take more fighting to give peace a chance.
I don't think political progress is realistic until military security is established.  I think Petraeus is headed in the right direction, but as usual, I wonder if we have enough troops to hold the rest of Iraq while we surge in Baghdad.
Interesting- Everyone that knows the General gives him top marks... what's everyone else that answered this post talking about?
Victory is at hand! Of course that means we will be eventually establishing an Islamic government that will side with Iran against us. But so what it is emptying our trerasury so that social programs must be cut and it is benefitting large corporations. On second thought by Bush/Cheney definitions we have already won! God bless George Bush, Dick Cheney and PNAC!
Let the man do his job!
All one has to do is look to the history of South Korea who is now the 12th major economy in the world.  Since the end of the Korean war in 1953, they have undergone 12 major constitutional changes and have been a multi-party western style democracy for the last twenty years.  The American pubic was just as rabid over that war as they are today over Iraq.  You could nearly cut and paste the opinions back then for today.  We still have a troop presence in Korea, the North has shut down it's Nuclear plant for which no one is giving George Bush enough credit for and Senator Biden(D) Delaware said the most "truthful" thing about the war in Iraq.  No one of either party is telling you the truth if they say troops will pulled from Iraq anytime soon.  Take a look back over history, we just closed American military bases in Germany  from WWII in this decade.  Hard to swallow?  Yes. Fact? Yes.  For anyone to look at South Korea and say they'd be much better off if we had cut and run has drank too much Koolaid today.
Jane-Watch that 911 movie by Michael Moore, it starts with a former CIA offical says that ,as president elect, Bush asked if there was a link between Osama and saddam. The CIA said NO! It looks like he and Cheney were setting the stage for 'something' in Iraq betwfore he was even sworn in as President. Huh!
Petraeus is too little too late. Who cares how smart he is? So he is an A student? The problem was started by a C student. The problem of Iraq is unresolveable. We would be better off without Petraeus because he will simply prolong something we ought to put an end to now.
Why isnt BUSH impeached, iraq mess,homeland security with open borders and tried to give the arabs our ports and the money spent. Worst president ever,Clinton was impeached for lying about a bj,how about BUSH,should have not been president[only because of his daddy]
If you build a house with a defective foundation, the house will always have problems, and one day it will collapse. I don't doubt that the Gen. Patreaus is highly qualified, but he will not be permitted to destroy the house, and rebuild the foundation. Mr. Bush, Cheney and the neo-cons, put their misguided faith in a political dogma, not in the relaity on the ground, a fractured quasi-nation state held together by a rulthless dicatator (see, Marshall Tito and Yugosalavia) The day the Iraqis started looting, and the occupation, didn't have plans to control the looting, was the day I realized that a real occupation plan was not in place, and we were going to have problems, for as long as we were in Iraq. I wish a lot of things everyday for our great nation, but my wish for our misadventure, will never come true. The Bush administration, is and history will show, the most incompetent in our history, and our failure in Iraq, is caused by their incompetence, shallowness, and failure to admit to their mistakes, and correct them. God Bless America, and get our troops our of Iraq, tomorrow. We will suffer for this incompetence, no matter how long we stay in Iraq.
Well, I am one of the few on this blog who has been to Baghdad (I've been to Kabul as well).  For those of you that think that peace will come once we leave the area, you need to come to grips with your hallucinations.

The situation in Iraq is a civil war.  It is not based on Shia vs. Sunni vs. Kurd vs. Turkmen, rather it is tribe vs. tribe vs. this tribe, vs. that tribe.  It is a difficult thing to understand through our news, but its the way things are.

We can do our best to help, but until the politicians overcome corruption and the armed forces and police overcome their tribal loyalties, we cannot help them.  

However, Gen Patreus understands this, and he can manage it best.  I saw him operate in Northern Iraq, and feel he is a way better tactician and warrior than the politician that Gen. Casey (now the chief of staff - sat through his droning in Baghdad every morning for an hour or two).  

Though I think that Iraq is not winnable in a military sense, hopefully the Iraqi government can overcome their al Sadr loyalties, etc.
We are continually told the last election was a mandate by the American people to leave Iraq.  I wonder just how the question was actually phrased. The American people are the most compassionate and caring people on the face of the earth.  They feel we have a morale obligation to end the bloodshed and establish a workable government.  This can only be done by winning the war in Iraq.  I believe General Petraeus will make this happen.
It seems that a lot of you have forgotten that the Iraqi people were already suffering under Saddam's rule before we ever set foot in that country.  You are wrong in assuming that we have caused all of the suffering they are experiencing now.  Our country was sucker-punched on 9/11 and our leader should be applauded for taking the fight to the enemy instead of waiting for their next move. The biggest problem this country faces is politicians who think they know best how to fight a war.  Even after winning the Revolutionary War, our country was not fully united and took some time before coming together as a nation, years in fact.  It is no different in Iraq.  Centuries of sectarian differences do not disappear after four or five years of war.  Isolationism was tried by President Wilson, a Democrat, but we were soon drawn into WWI.  How many attacks on this country would be enough to finally convince one that something must be done to prevent any more?  Turn the other cheek can only go so far but there are those who must have been born with more than two cheeks and as long as something happens to someone else and not them, they don't care.  Diplomacy cannot solve all conflicts as our Congress and Democrats thinks.  They'll still be talking even after our enemies have stabbed us and we will have drawn our last breath.  Get a life!!  Go, General Petraeus, go and do what you have been trained to do and that's protect the free speech that most of us hold dear and what we read in these blogs.  I've been to Iraq 2003-2005 and have seen what our military can do and have done in that country.  All of us armchair politicians have this country's problems wired.  From what I've read from you dissenters and supporters for a Democrat-lead Congress, you are in favor of replacing all the forward gears in our equipment with reverse gears.  Congress does not set foreign policy and they do not lead the country.  They are overreaching their bounds mandated by our Constitution. Thank God we have a pesident who will not be governed by those whose place is not to do so.  
Petraeus has no chance to stabilize that region.  It's a joke. Why do Americans consistently blind themselves to reality by putting their faith in a military man to win a war that the military itself is admitting cannot be won militarily??

Victory was put permanently out of reach the day L. Paul Bremer of the CPA tore down the Iraqi military, ripped down its governmental infrastructure, dismantled its banking system (which enabled billions to be fleeced from the American taxpayer), junked its media and refused to rebuild the meters on the oil pipelines so that we now have no idea how much oil is produced or used or siphoned off and sold on the black market.  We pretend it's getting better but the miles long gas lines where people wait 9 hours sometimes to take a turn at the pump (in a country with the second largest known oil reserves in the world) says otherwise.  There's no excuse for that.  That is criminally incompetent management on the part of the American govt.

These are things no one can solve without years and years of intense, dedicated work and we have not the time, personnel or materiel to do it.  Let's face it, we no longer have the will to do it either.  Certainly, the military isn't going to solve since it is not a military problem.

To see men and women coming home maimed, burned, disfigured, crazy, or just plain dead trying to solve what cannot be solved militarily is maddening.  George Bush is getting these people killed to salvage an unworkable agenda and an unreachable goal set motion by his blatant lies.  Our men and women, not to mention countless innocent Iraqis--the people we care so much about liberating, are dying every single day trying to make an honest man of a liar and the worst president this country has ever seen and hopefully ever will see.  I cannot understand, for the life of me, why more Americans are not infuriated at the irresponsible and, as Jack Jacobs says, "shockingly unenlightened leadership" that lied to us and to the world to walk us into a war they never made any plans to win or even to end.

Nor can the military hope to solve the rampant corruption that is going to be the undoing of this new Iraqi govt.  We have lost billions of dollars due to unbelievable amounts of graft and corruption both from Iraqi officials and American contractors while innocent Americans and Iraqis continue to die for it.  Where's the outrage??  For those who say Maliki is an idiot, ask yourselves who it was that put him in charge and you have the true idiot to blame for all this.

Why do I get the sick feeling that Congress will cave in to Bush again in September?  You KNOW they will.
The General will report what his superiors want to hear. That is how ass kissing and promotions are gotten in our democracy.
What a shame it would be if we "won" the war with Iraq spending all our blood and treasure, but lose the War on Terror.
The truth of the matter - Bush, the self-described "decider", decided long before 9/11 to go into Iraq to get rid of Sadam (this is a well documented fact).  He thought this might be an easy undertaking.  The so-called "war" in Iraq has resulted in thousands of lost lives and many more thousands of injured brave men & women, bankrupting our national treasury, causing our military to reach a "breaking point" (now we're truly not ready for a real emergency), and distracting us from the real "War On Terror". WHO attacked us on 9/11?  Where are they now?  Why haven't we WON THAT WAR?  We need to admit that the idea to pre-emtively strike Iraq (Bush's idea) was tragic to begin with.  There was no iminent threat.  There were no weapons of mass destruction.  No mushroom cloud.  We were lied to again and again for justification to send our best over there to die in this unjustifyable war.  And now there's a civil war over there.  How much do we sacrifice for this "war"? Who is our enemy again?  Why are we not using our best military action against our true enemy?  Why is Osama Bin Ladin still out there - stronger than ever?
Come on people.  Open your eyes! A little humility is in order!  "Pride cometh before the fall."  
Let's win the TRUE war (which is not in Iraq) and as graciously as we can get other nations to help with stabilizing Iraq.  Good luck General Petraus.  My payers go out to you and everyone else over there in harm's way!


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