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Iraqi women in 2007 – no sex, too much food

Posted: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:04 PM
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Taking advantage of a brief lull in the action while some of my male colleagues were out on a military embed, I tried to follow up on a promise I'd made to myself when I arrived on this latest assignment to Iraq – to try to find out who is the Iraqi woman circa 2007? 

Unable to stray too far, I started by chatting with some of the Iraqi women in the compound where our hotel is located. On another occasion, when it was just too dangerous for me as a Westerner to venture out, I asked our female translator, Rose, to do some of the leg work for me. I also persuaded her to make some pretty embarrassing phone calls.

What I found, while perhaps not exactly the in-depth take on female society I’d hoped for, offers a small taste of the everyday lives of some Iraqi women. The headline, should you choose to stop reading now, is no sex, too much food and no future.

Girl talk 
Shams, the 24-year-old woman at the security desk in the lobby of our hotel, made it adamantly clear that she believes she has no future in Iraq.

"The only way I have a future is if I come back with you to England," Shams said. "There is no hope for the women of Iraq. And with all these killings, we'll be left with no men. The only way to secure a husband is to leave the country."

And it’s not just the future – it’s the now. Shams’ youth has been severely compromised by the security situation. It’s too dangerous for trips out, so there is no way to meet boys on dates and the only recourse for friendship and intimacy is via a cell phone or the Internet. The highlight of the week for her is a visit to a girlfriend who lives next door.

"I miss everything we used to have in the old days [under Saddam]," Shams said. "The going out to restaurants or hanging out with friends eating ice cream till 3 a.m. These days, with the curfew, I have to be home by 7 p.m. max."

And then there is the shopping. "We all go clothes shopping in one safe area, which means everyone ends up buying the same things, so it looks like a uniform," she complained. Although she admitted that like so many of her Western contemporaries, she still manages to spend most of her salary on clothes. 

Or what's left of it after she’s paid $200 of her $500 monthly salary to the taxi driver who brings her safely to work. Other friends who earn less simply cannot afford to get to work. "So they stay at home, unable to practice the professions they've studied for," she said.

Working 9 to 5
But at the bank, I did manage to meet a lively group of ladies who still manage to practice their profession. While the male manager hovered around nervously trying to inject his presence into our conversation, we ignored him and chatted away.

We hit the usual topics of the dangers of simply getting to work, frustrations of infrequent shopping trips, the nightmare of juggling home-work-cooking with power and electricity being scarce and money always being incredibly tight. Again, I was hit by a wall of hopelessness.

"The situation is worse than ever. It’s spiraling right down," said Aseel, the 26-year-old single woman of the group and office siren who had regrettably just started wearing a headscarf because of the deteriorating situation. "Only God can help us," she said.

That was exactly why her married colleague, Hoda, 28, started wearing a headscarf three years ago. "I thought, I better play it right by God," she explained. "I’ve given up on the future."

"It's the worst possible thing, not having anything to look forward too," Hoda said. "Most people spend all their money on food. They just sit inside, in front of the TV, during curfew and eat. It’s the only pleasure we have left," she said, reminiscing about the days when they could walk in the park, go to a club, have a swim.

And on that note, I waited until the male boss left the room and broached the subject of sex. Was the situation taking its toll there, too? I'd read that the birthrate in Iraq had dropped by six percent since 2003, so something must be up.

 Menal, a 24-year-old newlywed blushed and conceded that, yes, like everything else, her sex life was suffering.

Hoda was more forthcoming. "Because we are both so stressed – the desire for sex, as for so many other things in life, has diminished."

Looking on the bright side, Hoda added, "The only good thing is where I was once worried about my husband cheating on me, now I don’t think he'd be up to it. And even if were, there would be few willing partners!"  

Home alone
Meantime, Suha, a 32-year-old housewife, told us over the phone that she and her husband quarrel all the time because of the situation and that the depression it brings is impacting their sex life – big time.

"I just don't go out. I spend all my day eating and sleeping," she explained. "I can no longer afford a hairdresser, and even if I could, it would be too dangerous to go there. Some people were kidnapped at the pharmacy round the corner the other day, so that's now a no-go, too. There are no social visits, and it’s so bad that I couldn't attend my uncle’s funeral. It's got to the stage where I change my clothes three times a day just to pretend I'm going out."

Suha also shared a total mistrust of Iraq’s newly elected  politicians, even the women. "These women don’t take the needs of the normal Iraq women into consideration," she complained.

Ladies who lunch
I asked Rose, our translator, if she'd mind asking a few questions at the up-market Alwiya Social Club, a middle-class bastion in downtown Baghdad. There the tempo was a little more upbeat.

Zainab, a 36-year-old professional who was lunching with her friend, Hyam, believed the role of women was actually improving. "Now at least we have women in parliament, ministers and ambassadors. Unlike under Saddam when we didn’t even have a parliament," she pointed out.

Hyam, 43, and the mother of three, was also more optimistic.

"We hope that the role of women in politics will improve the lot of Iraqi women. I have to hope, otherwise I couldn’t live," she admitted           

And her life at home seemed not too bad either. "I manage to get out to some social events and the hairdresser is right next to my home, so I go whenever I want. I work out at home on my exercise bike and when things get too much, we go to Kurdistan for a break."

What about sex? Well even for Hyam it’s a no-go. Now that's a real leveler.     

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Heartbreaking! What have we accomplished with this war? Years later and the people we were supposed to be freeing from their government are still in the same boat or worse... and so many people on all sides have lost their lives for this. War is not the answer!
This a bad situation for these families and women and the men as well, not to mention the outlook for the young people. My query is this, would the US's armed forces leaving their country make this situation better? I am on the fence at times about this war, I know that something needed to happen for these folks to be able to feel safe and not worry about the terrible torture and injustices of their government, but sometimes it doesn't seem that the end has justified the means. But are they any safer now, it does not appear so.
When will the muslim world realize that their own religion is at the core of their own sorrows!  That their religion causes the eventual infighting, hatred, extremism and the downright absurdness of their life.  I know that this statement will be met with the "obligatory" defiant responses of the "truly devout", where (according to the Koran) you must register your opposition to anything wrong said about your religion, even when your gut tells you how wrong it is and where we all know you truely do not believe in this, or conversely if you will: we all know how you would wish that your religion would be otherwise.
why is NBC obsesses about sex...people are dying and you can only think of they are getting enough??!?!
Sounds to me like it's the women who should be running that country. The men of the middle east are brutal, abusive,warmongering babarians. They can't compromise or agree on anything. All they know is torture, murder and fight. For thousands of years they have been like this. I feel so very sorry for any female who has to live there.
I certainly hope those are not the women's real names, especially if their families have access to the internet.
THE LESS SEX THEY HAVE THE LESS OF THEM THERE WILL BE. I'M OK W/ THAT.
It seems to me that life will never improve for the Women in Iraq when everyone just allows a group to control them.  I wonder how long it will take before we see more people reporting the terrorist or will they just foldup and allow them to continue killing with bombs, etc.
it's only an example of democracy and american freedom
wow, so we didn't make things better over there? I guess we haven't freed anyone...although we did get rid of that lunatic Saddam, how could they not be happy about that?
obvoiusly these women are not the true women of iraq. they are not the women with no face that are forced to serve their husbands in any way a man wishes. try interviewing the suffering women that praise God for our troops being in iraq.
Thats really sad. Those poor poeple. Im glad I live in America.
Asumming that during Saddam's rein they weren't allowed access to the internet or cell phones, the irony here is that this is now their only life-line to comunicating with men.
As a woman, I feel deeply for my fellow sisters. I can't fathom their sense of hoplessness for their future, and never wish to.
I hope they find the strength to stay strong and weather through this horrifying storm raging in their country and their quality of life.

On the bright side, women are gaining a voice politically and the sacrifices being made now for this to happen will impact their daughters lives tremendously in the future.
So the future is not so bleak, after all.
Just got back from Fallujah. The women here keep talking about danger around every corner. This spreads from a lack of courage to fight. America's politicians and people in general have forsaken her sons. The Military is not a paperweight, to be used just to hold something down. If you have an enemy that needs to be fought, than let us (the military) step up and fight them. It's our job. Don't tell us to "be gentle" or "just don't shoot", both of which I've heard from Colonels while in Iraq. We die and nobody cares, but if we kill those that are killing us we are murderers. I can garuntee that if America would allow it's military to fight the insurgents, and not only to fight them but to hunt them down in offensive action, all of the problems these women are complaining about would be solved.
Those people need to free themselves. When the United States returns to the home land they will return to the old ways. It is possible Sadam was doing the right thing!!
Defeating Saddam Hussein was a win-win situation, although the true victory of freedom may not be felt by some for years.  I think the women of Iraq are much more open-minded than the men, as well as more willing to experience and work with the changes that are taking place there.  I must agree that the men are very archaic and barbaric, and that Islam as practiced by extremists will be the downfall of these people.

I see the situation escalating no matter what; and I think we may see the beginning of End Times.  
Less sex = less terrorists.  Unfortunately, that's how I have to look at it.  Sadly we don't have the ability to know which baby will become a terrorist who comes from afar to hurt us; or which baby will be raised in the US or UK, enjoying all its freedoms and still grow up to hurt us.  The less of them there are, the safer we will be.  Eugenics might be the answer.  
sorry i have a hard time feeling sorry for these women, i'm more worried about my soliders in Iraq and if they are doing alright!
When you have been beat down for centuries like these women have, the only recourse is to unite and fight, find the strongest women to lead you and gain your freedom one step at a time. Use the time you have in private to educate your children in the joy of freedom and the prosparity that comes with it. Women are strong and can make a big difference if they will just use their talents and voices.
"I miss everything we used to have in the old days [under Saddam]," Shams said.
WOW!!  That's a sign of progress, right?  How bad must it be for a person to long for the times under a homicidal manic?  I'm speechless!
On a side note, it is interesting how a person in Michigan can disern who a "true Iraqi woman" is.  Do we think before we type?
So why are Muslim fundamentalists so nasty? To each other and to the world in general? So the point is (listen up, John Doe of Oregon) as long as their religion is opposed to making love and not war, there will always be disgruntaled unpleasant 20 something males who will be brainwashed into believing they can kill anyone in the name of their god. Pathetic. As soon as all Muslim women give up on their religion and tell the men no more sex until peace is put first, there will always be war. Oh never mind, their religion will always breed hate, regardless of any common sense.
The thought that I cannot help but have every time post-war Iraq is discussed is this: How is it possible that no-one seems to have any idea of history? What was it like after the Korean War, Vietnam, WWII, WWI and every other war in human history? Maybe it was something like this? The only real difference is after most of those wars there was a clear sense of closure. When Syria and Iran are still supporting the insurgents the current state of things is to be expected...
A question:


It seems as if like in the USA there are three classes. The Very Poor who look to no future, the Middle Class, who live as they always have and the Rich, who live as well as they ever have.
From the little bit I have read, even the Koran is about love and peace.  It only becomes twisted when taken out of context.  Anyways, it isn't about what religion is correct, but about the freedom of said.  Could you imagine beheading TomKat for thinking differently?  We can't stop people from having different beliefs so why stop them from expressing those beliefs?  I know that allowing people to choose and express their desired religion makes them more devout followers/practitioners.  You can't beat them into submission!  And I would have to say that not allowing the mass genocide of earlier days is a significant improvement!  Leaving now, would be like turning Germany back over to Hitler.  When we stop finding mass graves of hundreds or thousands, than I think our job is done.  Have hope and remember, it's always darkest just before the dawn.
Yes...let's return to the rape rooms, torture chambers, mass graves and Hussein's henchmen dragging daughters off the streets for fun and "pleasure," which also included throwing the discarded captives to dogs to be eaten alive.
 Yeah, that was great.
 Oh...and don't forget the 100,000 Iraqis who "disappeared" every year for 15 years.
  And the poison gas attacks.
  That would be better.
  If the American Left gets its way, the Vietnam aftermath (2,000,000 murders by their Communist brethren) will look like a little boo-boo.
 Leave it to CBS -and assorted half wits across this nation- to make THAT case...
I think that we have accomplished some things during this war... remember this war is very different than any before... a war agains terrorism, will never ever be won, because we are dealing with people's own hatred of life. We can be there for the next decade, and still the war will not be won, but yes, there have been accomplishments for sure. Terrorism continues because of their own evil desires and selfishness. And as someone stated before, because of this religion that has done more harm to the world today than before. Truly, we are in the end of times...
Less sex less terrorists? Eugenics? How about less sex less terrorists AND idiots like you? I am not sure what is worse for this world... the terrorists or the rednecks.
It is telling that the younger 20-something women are more down on the future where the older women are encouraged.  I cant help but wonder if the views of the younger women are not affected greatly by their age and the fact that they were likely still in their parents homes during the Saddam regime and have little to compare the current situation with or, more likely compare their situation with that of the youth in western soicieties.
Jonen Doe, Seattle, Wash. I loved your comment. I am just waiting to read the opposition to anything wrong said about thier book.

I'll check back later.
It is embarrassing to be american!The violence,lies and ignorance amongst us and in our media-all in the name of more profits for our American Oil companies,banks and military.Let us not pretend we really care about these women or their country.They are 'different',and we are conditioned not to give a damn,it,s just like vietnam.
I am of the opinion that we cannot "fix" Iraq. Perhaps they need to go through the same process the U.S. encountered in becoming a "free" country. We should allow them the freedom to develop into the country the Iraqi people want not what the US wants.
It is telling that the younger 20-something women are more down on the future where the older women are encouraged.  I cant help but wonder if the views of the younger women are not affected greatly by their age and the fact that they were likely still in their parents homes during the Saddam regime and have little to compare the current situation with or, more likely compare their situation with that of the youth in western soicieties.
The plight of women in Iraq is more tragic in that they once had a secure place in a relatively progressive society which is now at the mercy of religious fanaticism.  I would like to hear more about the plight of women in Saudi Arabia.  
Any religion which promotes/reguires murdering of anyone who disagrees with them is simply unacceptable to a civilized person..Christianity
has a lot to answer for in the past but thank God we moved on beyond that. Get out of there !! We can't change them---old habits are too hard to break--even if they wanted to---
Over 150,000 Iraqis have been killed since the U.S. invasion.  Are we going to stay there until we've killed more Iraqis than Saddam Hussein did?  These women can't build lives until the country stabilizes, and it will NEVER stabilize while we are present.
During crizing, 'voting by feet' is much more reliable than voting by ballot. By than 'vote' (comparing number of people trying to leave Iraq under Saddam and number of people trying to leave now, it becomes very clear that life under Saddam was way better for Iraqis than lifer under the 'freedom' that God of George Bush wanted so much and that US soldiers are dying for.
It certinly sounds like things are dificult for most people in Iraq. However, this is there chance for freedom. Theay will have to fight for it and fight to keep it. But will theay realize that theay can. Or do to many of them want the Taliban and a religous Iman as there ruler.
For the person named common sense, it sounds
like you belong over there with all the men.
Its ignorant thinking like yours that cause these
problems.

our world is ruled by a tiny percentage of extrimist from islam christianity &judaism they are always in fight creating wars ,they are always against pease each one of them consider himself mr right,  i really consider them not religious.because human was born free, relgion is pease and pease is the field of freedom.time proved that we ashuman can live in pease and harmony ,so please do not make them win do not support or ceate hate by talking about this or that religion.
Life after the war?  Is the war over?  I wasn't aware of that.  Their religion didn't do this to them, neither did our military.  Isn't there always a time "after" a war of regrouping, rebuilding, chaos, and hardship.  The people to blame for this are the ones that won't stop fighting.  They are causing hardship to their own people, is it U.S. soldiers kidnapping these civilians?  Is our Soldiers that make it unsafe...no, it's the resistance fighters.  Don't you think we would be out of there and things would be rebuilt if the factions that keep insisting on fighting would stop?    Leaving now isn't responsible of us...it's always easy to see it from the outside and be critical, it's harder when you try to put yourself in their shoes.

Give me a few body guards and I will go over and take care of the women around there, while there husbands are out looking for someone to kill I will be at his house playing army with his wife.
the women themselves said they were better off before we created a puppet state of Iraq under Saddam!!!..leave it some blogger to even try to distort the very words of Iraqi women into saying at least they are better off under U.S???...we crap on the people and then we are their liberator???how does that protect our long term future and the U.S. position in the world when everyone knows that we dont care about anyone else and our real agenda is so transparent, shallow, and selfish???are we liberating SUV drivers and oil investors???we can't even provide univ health care here in this country!!
Another Drive By Media piece about the present day doom & gloom in a free Iraq, and a Utopia under Saddam. Ooh.. how they wish Saddam could be back in charge
At first glance this is very sad. Then later I read the women say that if they can't get the man they need- they will put on a head scarf, and obey God? Which God are they talking about. People, read your bibles. These are the offspring of the first child of Abraham; Ishmael, wose mother was Sarah's servant- an Egyptian. Sarah, nor Abrahoam believed when God told them they would have a son, because twenty five years went by, and they had no son. So Sarah told Abraham to go in unto her servant, she got pregnant, and Ishmael was born. In due time, Sarah became pregnant, as God said she would, even though she and Abraham were old, and Sarah was past the time she could give birth. But as God said to them: "Is anything too hard for me?" That child was born, and that was the child. a boy, that God promised them. That child received all the blessings God promised to Abraham- The servant's child; Ishmael, received blessings of God, that they would be princes and kings, and that there would be many of them- BUT they would Always be fighting each other ( to simplify what God said). The blessings God gave to Abraham's son was to his and Sarah's son. The servant girl who was Egyptian, was not a believer in our God, and these people have never believed in The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and the eternal promises made to them by the only Holy God. The Egyptians worshipped many different gods, if you have ever seen an Egyptian showing at the Art Gallery, you would really see this. I saw the showing of King Tut-"the boy king". I gave up trying to count just how many gods they did worship. So what God is it these Arab women worship, that the only requirement is to wear a head scarf?? Beats me. These people need help- but they will NEVER SEE IT or KNOW IT. They are deceived- it is their genetic inheritance. For our government to try to force them to have a democracy is both ridiculous and ludicrous- they don't want a democracy, and never have. Please get real, read and understand, those of you who don't know the REAL truth according to the God of all, who made all, that was made-- wheteher you believe it or not. You can not believe in gravity, too, but if you jump off a building you will surely splat into the sidewalk. Grow up- study to show thyself approved- a fit workman, rightly dividing the word of TRUTH. There is truth, and then there are deceptions, we cannot change those who wish to be deceived- and why should our best and brightest die, and suffer far from home in a lost cause- to give a people something they don't want- and willnever believe in. Look around Iraq, and notice how many Muslim countries are all around them. Are we going to try and fight them all- as they begin to get involved in what they see as a Jihad- which if they blow themselves and us up- will attain them a great glory in their Paradise??? Yeah, Right!! Nan
War is hell, so they say... Iraq, like any other country ravaged by war, will feel the impact of that conflict in every area of life - including buying groceries, hanging out at a mall, or in the bedroom.  Men will be in short supply as war takes its inevitable toll on their numbers, and women will find themselves in unfamiliar territory, much as American women did after the outbreak of WWII... They survived, flourished, and found they could do so much more than they thought they could. Remember Rosie the Riveter?

Sad and terribly ironic) that it can take war to free people on both sides of a conflict and - all too often - women are the ones getting the freedom they should always have had anyway...
I hope the author of this piece understands that compared to the life of most Iraqi women, these middle class professional ladies have it good.  At least they are not being beaten to death or burned alive by male relatives for a perceived slight against their families "honor" (like being kidnapped).  At least they are not watching their children die from diahrrea from bad water, or from malnutrition.  At least they are not being forced to go to Syria and work in a whorehouse at the age of 12 in order to feed themselves.  What a nightmare the US war has created for the women of Iraq (and everybody else, except the Islamic fanatics who now rule the country.

Boy oh boy! (no pun intended), we've done a fine job of liberating a country and providing a safe a secure democray for the future, so lives and life can move forward to prepare a better place in the world for them and there families in the future... I'm proud to be an american.
"...it is interesting how a person in Michigan can disern who a "true Iraqi woman" is.  Do we think before we type?"

As someone who grew up in Dearborn Michigan, an area largely populated by Muslim immigramts, I believe that a person from Michigan can disern quite well what a "true Iraqi woman" is. The horror stories that I have heard from many girls/women who have sought refuge here are illustration enough to me that the only typical Iraqi woman is every Iraqi woman. And yes I think before I type, you don't obviously!  
I often wonder about Iraq after Saddam.
He was a tyrant, a monster even. But were things on a daily basis as bad under his rule as they are now?
Doesn't seem like it.
Iraq is in shambles-there's no getting around that.
Our little experiment with bringing democracy to Iraq, and by extension the rest of the Mideast, has failed miserably because the architects of the Iraq war didn't do their homework; didn't understand all the cultural and inter-religious hostilities; didn't understand the psyches of the people we were going to "save".
In addition, the whole Iaraq war is, or was, predicated on a lie and therefore destined for failure.
I support our soldiers and the ordinary Iraqi men, women and children caught in the hell hole of this war.
As to the sex lives of Iraqi women-the lst thing on your mind when death is around every corner is sex!
I wonder if we asked American women during our own fight for independence these questions if the answers would be similar.


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