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London to Glasgow, passing the suspects

Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2007 10:00 PM
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At first sight of that flaming car, in television pictures trickling in from Scotland, the first hopeful thought was that it must have been some unfortunate accident. And that, at best. Or maybe one of those copycat acts that inexplicably arise when something horrible happens.

No. Within minutes, this appeared to be something more. And so started our journey to Glasgow in a hurry. A most futile rush, as London reacted to this, and its own, fear of continued attack.

A strange thing, to find traffic into Heathrow at an absolute standstill, for miles and miles. Every now and then we'd move a few car lengths in the pouring rain. The tension and worry on the faces in other cars was painfully obvious. Some were resorting to driving on the narrow shoulder of grass. It got them nowhere. As we drew closer, and the hours -- yes, hours --  ticked by, I contemplated several times jumping out of the car and just running the rest of the way to the terminal, but the rain was soaking and I would have had to run through a long tunnel. I should have. Heathrow had reacted quickly with increased security and closed roadways.
 
I, and my photographer Krzysztof, coming in from a different location, both missed the last flight out to Edinburgh, the nearest airport to Glasgow that was still open.

We looked at each other at the terminal, finally. What were we going to do? No more trains at 10 p.m. Our only choice: drive. More than seven hours. The case was developing rapidly in Scotland, even as we stood there.

So off we went, back in the traffic and up the length of England toward the border. More slow hours to tick by, to think about all that was going on around us. Our driver and Krzysztof discussed it in Polish. I eventually went to sleep in the back seat to the sound of the endless rain that has plagued the U.K. Its flooding was the big story here -- until now.

But somewhere during this long dreary night, on the M6,  the very same highway we were driving -- two terror suspects were stopped by police, and arrested.
 
We were surprised. Some more to think about.

They could have been the people next to us at the gas station filling up, the couple that we smiled hello to, or the ones behind us in the convenience store, waiting patiently in line for more coffee for the road. 

Were they making their escape as we sped toward their alleged work? As we and others stood, thinking our mundane thoughts: what route to take, what we had to do the next day, did they stand next to us, imagining what death they could bring to innocent families? Did we politely say "excuse me" to them, as we headed out the door?

Perhaps this is, at least remotely, how some in Florida felt, after realizing they'd been living among several of the 9/11 hijackers.

And as reports come now, that some of the five suspects might have been working as physicians in the region before this, more awful questions follow. Is it possible that the same ones trained to heal, save, protect, and "do no harm" could simultaneously be plotting the most effective, destructive modes to kill?

And as we go about our daily business, be it in London or Glasgow or New York or Peoria, how many might be out there?

Hope lies in people like the ambulance workers in central London last week who had their eyes wide open. They saw something unusual nearby, and though they were busy, they did something about it. They may have unknowingly saved dozens of lives.

John Reid, who lives only a few doors down from the house that two of these terror suspects may have rented recently, told us thoughtfully Sunday that nowadays we seem to be OK with not knowing who lives in our neighborhood, and not caring what they're up to. He felt that from now on, he and many others here would be watching what goes on around them, much more closely, and without thinking twice.

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Dear Michelle, The world has certainly changed dramatically since September 11th. And we all must be more vigilant of what is going on around us anywhere we go. It is good that these terror suspects were caught and arrested, but it is always scary to think these people reside anywhere in the world. In this time of possible attacks we all must notice anything unusual and report it to the proper authorities. Those ambulance workers did save dozens of lives just by doing something to prevent a tragedy. I do hope someday that the world will be rid of these terrible people who cause such destruction and hurt. I surely hope that comes soon. Peace to all!  
How much longer before we do the last thing first?  Yes, deport these people back to any arab country that will accept them.  As Americans, we are not heartless and we want legal immigration but this waiting for one of these wackos to go off in the name of their religion is way too much!
The religion argument may need to be looked at more closely.  These are thugs, not "religious" in the common sense we accept for people who believe in a moral society.. These are obviously mentally unbalanced, anti-social personalities who have been either indoctrinated or coerced into the activities they perform.  Vigilance and a willingness to make a mistake may be the only defense we have as a society  to prevent their implementing the devastation they seek.  We should pay attention to our neighbors, but more importantly, be willing to engage them in conversation to find out who they are, where they are from, what are their opinions about terrorism, how do they feel about a free society?  Free speech is a privilege that also carries responsibility and anyone who openly agitates and advocates destruction of my democratic society needs to be called down and exposed. Speech can incite to riot and can be seen as an overt act . Anyone who advocates a violent revolution of my democratically elected government is performing treason and should be immediately dealth with by all legal means. No matter if you are a priest, a rabbi, an imam, student, or political leader. There are organized avenues for society to move in any direction the majority approve. Violence is absolutely unacceptable to institute change in government or societal values.
ms. kosinski:
the notion that a physician's healing tradition will trump the hatred of the west is laughable. these savages learn to hate us from birth. no amount of training- be it medical education or our attempts to 'win hearts and minds' will help. the 'root cause' of the problem is not our troops in Saudia Arabia or Iraq; it's not the Israeli-Arab conflict. the root cause is their religion which stifles them- all they can do is lash out at those of us who are enjoying life. we need to seal our borders to keep out this scum, and then, if need be, send our bombers over there to finish up the job.
Civilized societies are fighting a fanatical enemy. There are three long-term ways to stop this deviant behavior. First, muslim institutions must teach young muslims to voice their concerns through the ballot-not the bullet. Second, security agencies must silently eliminate muslim militants including imams and financial supporters. Finally, western countries, in particular the U.S., must rethink their foreign policies in the middle east. There is
a growing seperation world wide between the haves (developed democracies), and have nots (authoritarian regimes). In the meantime, we will continue fighting muslim extremists, who are a throw back to japanese kamakize fighters and north vietnamese sappers. What do they all have in common, a willingness to sacrifice their lives for a twisted cause.  
I have been saying repeatedly that these people ought to be deported regardless of how long they have been in the country or even if they were born in the West.
They have no loyalty except to Islam. Deport or expel them and the time to do it is now - before the problems get even bigger.
Yes all suspected persons need to be deported. We should place a limit on the amount of people from Arab nations to be allowed into the US. Especially limit how many of them can become citizens. See, our government brings these people over, pays for their college education (which they don't pay back)and then sends them back to their country. We are educating these terrorists. There are thousands of college students in the US that the government could be helping out instead of these Arabs. But, it is not just the Arabs, there are plenty from other nations and ethnic groups that joined their cause. We need to take care of our own before we take care of other nation's college kids. We also need to be tougher on are laws. Can't be afraid to be rough with these people. They already hate us, hell we were already nice to them by giving them a college education. These times call for tough answers. We as Americans should toughen up more like our generations that were in World War II till now.
Aaron from NY - I agree wholeheartedly.  There is no solution in this RELIGIOUS and IDEOLOGICAL conflict with ISLAM.  How can we win hearts and minds when these people are indoctrinated to hate everything Western almost from birth?  Remember the picture of the baby suicide bomber?  Why do these people come here if they hate the West so much?  I think the answer is obvious.  Send them all back to their Godforesaken lands before they start blowing things up over here, too...
Terrorist, Muslisms, murderers, call them whatever you want. They have been taught to hate us from birth by a group of religious zealots that have perverted Islam to accomadate themselves. Most of the middle east still have the mindset of living in the 17th century. We need to get rid of the supposed religious men that preach hate.
We need to stop kidding ourselves thinking that we can teach these people how to live in a civilized soceity, that some how we can change their hearts. I do not want to generalize and say that all Middle Easterners are the same or that they think the same because it wouldn't be accurate. There is however a group that want nothing less than to destroy us and our way of life. Why? I don't know why, but I do know that we need to everything in our power to stop them from reaching their goal. We need to be active and not reactive, we can't just sit here waiting for another attack. We need to go after these animals, and not just the U.S. and the U.K., the entire world, because when they are "done" with us they go after somebody else.
I hate to find myself agreeing with Aaron from New York as I do not advocate violence; but, I have been reading more and more on Islam (supposed religion of peace) and the upbringing of Muslims and Aaron is right. They are taught from birth that Christians and Jews (and anyone else who does not believe as they do) are pigs and must either be converted or killed. This is an 11th century relgion and way of thinking that we now find ourselves dealing with in the 21st century. We had a period of time in Europe called the "Dark Ages"; we shouldn't fool ourselves into thinking that it can't happen again. The enemy is determined; we must be MORE determined.
I suggest legislation imposing that every relative of such immoral degenerates also be deported and/or imprisoned with no parole ever.  It has become clear that whomever birthed and raised such deplorable creatures neglected to instill the most basic wholesome values to make them worthy of living in our midst. I support deporting their entire clans so they may live in societies apparantly more suited to their lifestyles.
Somewhere in all of this we must ask ourselves. Was the recent incidend in England masterminded by someone who would like to keep England from removing their troops and to a larger extent their support of the American war on terror? The new British government was heading that way and may now retink this shift. Who would gain or loose?
It is high time to do a sweep and deport all the illegal and undesirable forieners. Our Governments need to take a unified stand and start deporting this scum and continue to do so.
Does any one ever wonder why these people are doing this. Did anyone ask what is your cause, Not just jump to an answer.What is their reason to kill people. I for one would like to know.
Only Christ can heal and give wholeness, no religion can do that!  
If it is true that doctors were involved in the attack, so much for the idea that we just need to improve the education and economic status of these people--to get them to buy into the system, as it were--in order to eliminate terrorism.  This is ideological and religious warfare, no matter how much spin you want to put on it.  That's discouraging.
I agree with aaron from New York.  There is no such thing as a moderate muslim.  Islam teaches there is no value in life and that to be a true muslim non-believers must be slain.  And they have no problem killing women and children as they do not believe any of us are innocent.
We must stop immigration now and start deprting them.
I wish that all reading this blog would contact the whitehouse to demand they close tha gaps in the border.contact homeland security and youre elected officials and demand that they secure the borders, this is not a left or right issue this is a right or wrong issue. we cannot as voers allow washington to make politcal hay out of our safety.PROTECTING the border has nothing to do with so called migrants.we can deal with that later.weather you are for or against immigration has nothing to do with our and our children's safty.What my big fear is that sooner or later one of these attacks will set off a backlash from all the people that have sat back and done nothing but take it.the results may be a terrible mess that will pit everyone against any people of islamic religion, innocent or not.that would be a shame but you can only kick a dog so many time before he bites. As for reporting any suspect activity the airport imams are trying to sue the passengers that complained.where they are going to get a jury to support them remains to be seen.this stuff happens because of our freedoms and is a price we are willing to pay to have them.but our freedoms should not be confused with stupidity. there has to be a balance between politically correct and just plain stupid.protect yourselves and be aware of who is around you at all time.god bless.
Michelle, Contrary to what's politically correct, this is a religious war. These people are taught to hate in their mosques and it's time that we wake up, we must profile these people by their religion and where they originate. We had better wake up and be vigilant.
Why are you shocked that these are doctors? Al-Zahwari, Bin Laden's No.2, is a surgeon. Their "religion" is all that matters. Their oaths as doctors or as citizens means nothing.
What gets me is in the name of "fairness" we spend millions of dollars searching little kids and old people and not targeting the perpetrators who are always Pakistanis, Arabs or Malaysians, I think "political correctness" should be kicked out and the money spent surveilling the main suspects. How many other races produce terrorists? Anyone out there see any Christian Terrorists? Jewish terrorists? Hindu or Buddhist terorists, NO so treat these others as lepers until they get their act together and root out their own!
NOT ALL ARABS ARE MUSLIMS ,, AND NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE ARABS . PAKISTANY IS MUSLIM FOR EXAMPLE BUT NOT ARAB .IRANIAN ARE MUSLIMS BUT NOT ARAB . PLEASE BEFORE YOU ACCUSE INCENT PEOPLE . CHECK THAT OUT .
GOD BLESS THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA .
Terrorism is a religious issue, solely.  There's no coincednce that the acts of terrorism that spread around the globe all come from Muslims.  And if you don't believe that, if you think that it's a political issue, or a cultural issue, if you think that the Israeli's incite the Muslims to violence or that the U.S. or the U.K. deserve it go read the Koran.  If, like millions of others, you've never read the Koran you have no idea what you're talking about.
Send them all home.  Clean them out. It's evident that we cant mix so why risk our civilization. Pull out the armed forces and let them have at eachother.
Lawyers,doctors, bakers or candlestick makers,they are all terrorist no matter what they were to be educated as.When countries that a have a democracy  allow these individuals to infiltrate our society as "New Citizens" their soul purpose is to undermine and destroy democracy along with christianity in any way,shape or form. They want to impose the Muslim culture throughout the world and will stop at nothing to carry out their mandate.We have to and must stress to our governments it is time to stop the importation of all Muslims into our countries.Deport those that are here on working or student visa's.Ship them back from whence they came.Ban all Muslims from entering our country.Those convicted of terrorist acts  through their actions alone would justify the deportation of thier famly members back to the homeland or country of origin.Intoduce legislation that would allow this to be carried out.As a Canadian citizen I'd rather deal with thousands of illegal aliens from Mexico then allow Muslims into Canada.Am I a racists ? I never was until Sept 11,but the hatred in me festers on a daily basis, and to whom do I owe this new found personality I have acquired?
Terrorism is an unfortunate consequence of a free society.  The USA is complicit in it's fomation.  For the last few decades our government has meddled with government of other nations, using them as pawns to further our goal.  Funding and performing coups in South America, seeking to destroy democratically elected governments from the inside, etc...

Bin Laden was a product of CIA training, and Rumsfeld was great buddies with Saddam back in the day.  Suddenly the Soviets were no longer a threat and we left our ally Bin Laden to swing in the breeze while he was still fighting a proxy war for us.

Luckily, terrorism is still a very minor impact on the lives of most people.  You are more likely to die in a lightening strike than to even be wounded by terrorist action.

It is wise to remember the statistics, lest you give up liberties and rights and conveniences in the name of poorly-designed 'safety rules'.  Especially when the people asking you to submit to their new powers are part of the reason why the Middle East hates us so much.

The idiocy of religious belief ain't helpin' much either.

I agree that these militants were being taught to hate infidels, Jews, and Americans(all are infidels if not Muslim). The signs were there during the early nineties under Clinton admin....Why did he not start the education and attempt to isolate them, then, instead of Bush having to do so after 911? Bush gets all the hate and blame for trying to protect us...Something is wrong with this picture........
If their religion is really the issue, then attack their belief system. If they do not fear death, then attack their afterlife belief. How? For prisoners, inject just a bit of swine blood into their vein and according to their belief they can't go to their heaven. They may even fear death. For the ones that kill themselves and others, feed their remains to swine or bury them with swine. I propose that all US troops use swine "tainted" ammunition.
The word would get out that death is not an award or an escape.
Who are these people and how many of them are there? Do we have thousands, ten thousands, or millions of people who are willing to murder other humans in the name of their God? We had better find out now, from experts in the Islamic faith. We already know that women are stoned to death if they talk to a man who is not a relative. We already know women are second class humans to perverted men. We already know they hate the Western ways of life. We already know there are 'Moral Police' squads in Saudi Arabia who arrest people if they even have one drink. We already know there are 'boot camps' around the world operating as grade schools to train young boys and girls to hate and kill those who do not believe as they do. What is it going to take to awaken the rest of the world to the inherant dangers of this Islamic faith? Or, is it just a few that belong to a sect of Islam? Are we going to continue to fear insulting a religion by ignoring their beliefs, until they destroy our way of life? We really need to get a handle on this problem fast. If there are millions of people willing to kill innocent humans to demonstrate their faithfullness, then we have a problem, a major problem. We had best findout for sure what's going on, and fast.
wow! a lot of anger on this site. America has a strange way of spreading democracy. it seems that the only thing it really shows is that democratic nations will stoop to stealing elections and will go to war with other nations it is intolerant towards. if you study history, you will discover Iraq was a democracy for 50 years before the Ba'athist party took control, ending 50 years of unprecedented split elections, narrow wins and political assassinations.

but don't let me bore you. american sense of history is horribly one sided. (see any of americas textbooks on Vietnam at your local blockbuster.) i can't believe this site approves your opinion to prevent Arabs from coming to America or from living in your crime ridden homicidal nation. as if a mysogenistic religion based on a crucified man is any more pure.
I will never be able to understand where ALL this hatred of the US and its citizens comes from, though I am completely certain that it is religiously based.  I'm sick and tired of people being politically correct and insisting that Muslims are a peaceful people.  NO THEY ARE NOT!!!.  How come no Muslim ever stands up and denounces these senseless acts of terrorism and why are there no Muslim coalitions trying to prevent them?  Where are the rallies, candelight vigils, peace marches, etc. to show their solidarity with their adopted lands, be it the US, England, or elsewhere. My theory is that they secretly encourage these acts and actually gloat in their successes all the while enjoying the freedoms of the countries in which they've chosen to live.  How on Earth are we supposed to ever like, trust, respect and/or admire a Muslim if they have done nothing to command it?  It's time we start taking back our country one neighborhood at a time. Vigilance is key...getting to know your neighbors is paramount.  It's time that we stand UNITED against these monsters and show them what a free and democratic society is really all about.  May God (not Allah) bless the USA!!!
I wholeheartedly agree with Aaron in New York.   What did the Americans do in WW2 with the Japanese that were in the country at that time, to preclude any attacks from within?   They sent them all off to camps where they could not put the American public in danger.   I know personally of one person who's family was put in these camps, they got out after the war.   The camps were not horrible (such as the Nazi death camps) while not ideal, at least this action kept us safe.   Study WW2, our leftist public school teachers would have us believe there was no WW2.  I say the same thing should be done with Muslims here in the US now.  I don't see a whole lot of input from the supposedly Moderate Muslims.  I really don't think there are any Moderate Muslims, I think they (all muslims in the US) are secretly hoping that this Jihad works so that they can over run us and make kow tow to their stupid Sharia Laws.
We depend on the government to protect us when we really need to be "street smart" about whats happening right next to us.  This doesn't mean we need to be telling on a neighbor than makes us mad.  Just pay attention to what is going on around you....use "street smarts".  
all this should be a lesson for those brits in academia who are obsessed with the 'evil' doings of israel. no amount of boycotts or political condemnations of the state of israel will save them from islamic radicalism's wrath. they're just as much fodder for the jihad as any other 'infidel.' the only difference is that those who stand up to islam have guts; the brit academics are spineless wimps, going to the slaughter and deserving it, too.
more and more it seems that they, meaning the muslim community, are taught to hate progress and western culture and we are the devil.  they firmly believe we need to be exterminated.  unfortunately you can't decipher between a "good" muslim or a "bad" muslim.  we need to reliquish the rights of muslims in this country and send mid eastern born muslims back home.  enough is enough.  every time we think we have them "pegged" the cowardly hide behind another false identity that we wouldn't think of that would cause widespread death and destruction.  wasnt it hammurabi that had the rule an eye for an eye?
to aaron new york congratulations as one of the nations who supported this war in the initial phase having arabs fight arabs you now want to bomb them wake up to yourselves your country has caused enough heart ache just deport them all back to their country of orign and dont allow them to return and problem solved and you save the worry of all the bodies that will need to be buried
 
Muslims are not terrorists!!!, but some terrorists are muslims!! Catholics are not IRA!! but some IRA are Catholics !!!, No one can use religion for an excuse to murder anyone of any religion,culture or colour.   What i would say is that as far as "home grown" "terrorists" go my opinion is this, regardless of what religion, colour , age, or gender these people are , committing an act of treason against their own country , and should therefore, be convicted as traitors. If you are born and raised in a country and are known to be , British, African , American ,Irish, etc etc and you commit an act of terror against the said country, you are committing treason in this case we would be better to drop the title "terrorist" and apply the correct title of Traitor.!!! Most followers of the Islamic faith are decent law abiding people , and its important not to tar everyone with the same brush, also there are a lot of "White" muslims so we have to be careful that we dont let the racist fraternity , use their prejudices to target none white people. And finally i would add my own personal opinion that the war in Iraq is illegal, and if we think  how terrible it is to be the victims of teror attacks occasionally maybe we should imagine what it must be like to live in a place that has car bombings murder and carnage on a daily basis .  
Sorry folks, it's the religion.  Only the earlier portions of the Koran advocate peace. Once the prophet secured Mecca, all bets were off, and the prose takes on a triumphal and agressive air. Worse still, the theolgical precedent that is established is to pay more attention to the later writings, similar to the emphasis on the new as opposed to the old testaments of the bible.  As long as religious meal tickets promote willful ignorance (faith as opposed to evidence based belief) the problem will be with us, murder based on un-provable mumbo jumbo.  The problem is religion.
The time as come for the Christian world to wake up and realize that we are in the mist of a religous war!  Only the Christian world has not fought back.  The Muslim world hates Christianity.  As much as they hate Jews.  They can blow all the smoke they want, but if they could, they would march all over the Christian's of the world, and any religion that is not muslim for that matter.  

Islam claims to be a religion of peace.  HAHAHA!  It's a religion of hate, intolerance,
and violence towards non-blievers. They would love to go back the to the glory days of Islam and take converts by the sword.

Wake up Christianity!
Islam is not a religion of peace.  It never has been.  Never will be.  Until you in the media start describing what it is: a foundation for those who actually want to kill you, we will keep seeing a steady trickle of death and terror around the world and right next door.

"they" have hated you and me for hundreds of years, long before George Bush ever took out the murdering rapist Saddam Hussein and 'caused this whole mess' (as we are frequently told) and they hated us long before any calls for crusade to reclaim Jerusalem (why was there a call to 'reclaim' a city...had someone recently conquered it?  Oh yeah, they did...)

Where is Charles Martel when you need him?  It is hard to believe that he was the leader of the Franks/French!
This article is a perfect example of what not to do.  Do not FEAR, terrorism is exactly that, trying to scare us into getting what they want.  By being paranoid that you might have seen the culprits and talked to them politely is insane.  You are going about your daily life, living it not in fear of who you may meet or what could happen today.  But, instead living decently, being polite, not judging people before you know them.  You are being human, and my best advice is to know that they may take your life, but you had the opportunity to live in a democracy for which you had a voice, and you died free.  
please wake up and read the constitution....those priveliges people speak of....free speech et al are not priveliges they are INALIENABLE RIGHTS..they cannot be given by government....only taken away, and occaisionaly must be fought for and if you think for one minute that those rights are under attack ONLY by  terrorists....think again
In a time of war, it's necessary to rethink the liberties afforded by the laws and constitution of the country you call home. If the enemy exploits those liberties and protections to hide behind them in wait to strike, then it's high time people learned to live without them for some time.

Personally, I'd gladly give up some freedoms and protections if that would allow our government to be more effective in identifying and rooting out this scourge from our society.
With all the terror activities we are witnessing on a daily basis, most still do not understand why these murderers are doing this.  The truth is that they hate us because it is their DUTY to hate us.
They hate us because of our way of life (which contradicts the teachings of the koran)
They hate us because of our freedoms.
They hate us because of our education.
They hate us because of our ability to think for ourselves.
It is the teaching of islam that the entire world submit to them. Those who do not must be killed in allahs name. We are an ignorant society which must wake up to the realization of islams ideology before it's to late!  If you don't believe what I have just presented to you, research it for yourself while you still have the chance. Don't wait until it's too late to act.  Remember Hitler and the Nazis. We were warned, but most just shrugged it off.
All this and still we in the USA do little to nothing to increase security at our own borders ?
       What does it take ?
       How long will it take ?
I understand that not all arabs are muslims,  not all muslims are arabs and not all muslims are terrorists. I get that. But, the murder of innocent women and children by radical muslims must stop. What I really do not understand is why muslims are murdering innocents? Do they actually think that by murdering innocents they will win hearts and minds to their religion? And why are not those muslims who are not connected to the radical splinter groups not convincing their brethren to cease and desist? The radical splinter groups are making life very hard for their brethren. Or don't they understand that? Obviously they don't care that they are making life extremely difficult for those that are not radicals.
Perhaps it's time for a national ID card. Perhaps.
May I remind you all (especially the original author) that the people arrested are merely SUSPECTS!! In past arrests here and in the UK, most end up having nothing to do with a terrorist plot.  You people need to stop jumping to conclusions and assuming their guilt before there's any proof, and maybe a trial.
Study the role of a Mullah.  Not only is the violence and hatred in the Koran a problem, but the Mullahs are a greater problem.  They control the politics, politicians and the religion and have for many centuries.  Read history because it is repeating itself.  I previously had a measure of guilt for being "an Ugly American".  After 35 years of studying history I have a better understanding that it is the profit motive and position these Mullahs are protecting for themselves. They resemble the Mafia mob and work transparently to foster evil control of the masses.
Mr Ford, don't ever let someone tell you that giving up freedoms will be merely a temporary expedient.  The people who want to convince you so will not be able to afford to give them back,(according to their interests).  


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