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Chavez not helping Russia’s tightrope act

Posted: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:53 AM
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One of President Bush’s biggest critics came to Moscow on Thursday, and you would have expected him to be welcomed with open arms.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is here on what has become almost an annual state visit with Russia’s President Vladimir Putin. Economic ties between the two countries have grown considerably – mostly in the form of billions of dollars of weapons sales from Russian to Venezuela.

With the relationship between the U.S. and Russia considered to be at its lowest point in years – missile defense in Europe, democracy development in Russia, and the status of Kosovo being just a few of the issues where the two are at odds – the occasion seemed ripe for Chavez and his harsh criticisms of Washington.

But even though the timing of Chavez’s visit may be perfect for him, it’s a delicate moment for the Kremlin, since Putin is heading to Kennebunkport, Maine, in two days to meet with Bush in an attempt to smooth over some of those differences.

While bringing most of the mainstream media within Russia under its control or influence, the Kremlin usually has little use for foreign media and foreign opinion, and constantly complains that that both are biased against Russia. But in a rare acknowledgement of the importance of both, it looks like the Kremlin has done all it can to tone down Chavez’s impact here.

Downplaying visit
Chavez opened a Latin-American cultural center in Moscow yesterday with typical blustery remarks castigating the United States, but Putin was nowhere in sight.

Newspapers here reported that the official meeting between the two leaders was purposely scheduled to take place late in the evening over dinner and behind closed doors at Putin’s residence outside of Moscow – late enough to miss some of the evening newscasts.

Putin limited his remarks to diplomatic niceties about the evolving relationship between Russia and Venezuela and avoided the veiled criticism of the U.S. that he has been using over the past few months.

And in a surprising display of self-censorship, the Duma (Russia’s lower house of parliament) voted not to have Chavez address the entire chamber, but had him meet a smaller group of deputies in a conference room. The party leading the vote to cancel Chavez’s speech was United Russia, the ruling party which rubber-stamps decisions made by the Kremlin.

Tightrope walk
Putin and the Kremlin tend to walk a fine line between demanding that Russia be part of the club of leading countries (alternately lumped together as the West, Europe and the U.S., Western-style democracies, G8, etc.) in the world, while also taking an independent line that many in that club would not agree with (like inviting Hamas leaders to official meetings in Moscow after they won Palestinian elections in early 2006).

This tightrope act continues this weekend as Putin heads to Maine, while Chavez continues on to visit Belarus and Iran – two countries who count Russia as their friend while considered "outposts of tyranny" by Condoleezza Rice.

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Russia is a relic of the past and Chavez is going to run his country into the ground just like russia did.
Im not big on people that spew hate from thier mouths like that little pip squeek chavez does
We as a country really need to really push for less dependency on foreign oil. That is mainly what we export from both of these countries and assuredly both countries' highest valued commodity. Once that happens they can count on China & India for money so we can see how much bluster and swagger they'll have left. After it's done then we can sell them the technology.
I think the biggest problem I have with this article is that somehow it appears that you are implying Chavez is wrong in his assertions about Bush when we here in America have learned that he is all too accurate.  Not that this makes him a canidate for "Minister of the Year" either though.... I say can them both.
They were most likely just exchanging recipes.  

Maybe Hugo was ensuring that he would have Russia’s support when he finalizes his Dictatorship.  Or, he wanted to ensure that Russia would buy his oil when the U.S. stops.  
Chavez, like Che and Castro, is a despot out for self gratification at the expense of others.  They all talked a good game, but delivered NOTHING to the people they claim to support.  All you Leftist weenies who think Gitmo is so awful should spend time as a guest in a Castro or Chavez prison.  Bet it changes your ideas about these "great" evil clowns.
Good on Hugo Chavez, bringing some prosperity to the average person in Venezuela - something the US of course doesn't like, particularly not in central america which it destroyed in the 80s, now theres hate for you.
The big thing is that bush is guilty as charged in his attacks on Chavez and the country of Venezuela.
It is a known fact that our country has interfered with the lawful governments of South America forever.
Perhaps these significant political snubs will make Fatboy realize what an insignificant wad of diplomatic spittle he is, oil or no oil. He will eventually fall into the litany of failed Latin American tinhorn dictators of all political persuasions when the Venezuelan people wake up from their complacency and realize the road to dire poverty that this bozo is leading their country down. It took the Nicaraguan people less than a decade to throw Daniel Ortega and his cronies out on their ears.
What ticks me off is that Chavez says "America" and Americans. When he even knows that a huge majority of Americans donot approve of Bush. He wouldn't tick me off if he said Bush this or Bush that. And now he is to meet with Iran. He is one little cocky prick. Now even Russia is tired of his ranting and raving. I agree we need to develop and use secondary fuel sources and just leave the gasoline for our military. We can extract enough from our own terrotories to support our military. We need to bring Iran and Venezuala to their knees by not buying the oil. And yes let them go to China for help. Then it will be the Chinese's problem. They will get tired of him as well. As soon as he started talking junk about us we should have stopped buying from him. But yet we are still buying his oil. We need to boycott Venezuala and teach him a lesson he will never forget.
Dontcha just love all this globalization happiness?
I agree with lameduckbush.  Venezuela, Iran, and Al quada are living on U.S. Dollars spent on oil.  It should the number one priority of U.S. to get rid of dependency on oil.  Then many of our other problems would disappear.
Do countries buy oil?  Or do the companies that distribute oil and gasoline buy oil?  Do you actually have any idea where the gallon of gas in your car came from?  Capitalism says the government has little control where we get our oil from.  We buy from the lowest priced supply.
Putin and Chavez at least are both respected in thier own countries as well as most of the world.  bush on the other hand is the most hated and disrespected  individual on the planet, and deservedly so. The idiot has squandered all the goodwill we used to have in the world and peed away countless billions of our tax dollars on his private wars and star-wars rehash.    
Let's be honest for once. America is in a tight spot, Russia is building up for another cold war, the middle east is chaos, Iraq, Iran, Isreal, Hamas, our dependency on foreign oil. It has all the makings of a perfect storm. Any historian or military stratigist will tell you two things will cause you to suffer defeat faster than anything else. A multi front war where you run out of troops and a hamstrung economy, we face the possibilty of both
Hugo Chavez is a blotch on the face of Venezuela.  He will drive Venezuela into recession and poverty with his interferences with the free market.  Serves them right for electing him!  Next time there won't be elections - he will be president for life.
Chavez, like Castro, is used by the Kremlin at the Kremlin's pleasure.  His ideological stance clearly nothing more than a cynical means to acquire and retain power, Chavez has little to offer but his oil money.
Putin is a haughty old-guard Communist of the Soviet nomenklatura, doubtless bored with Chavez' grandstanding in any case.  He probably regards Chavez as one might an attack dog; only to be released at need, otherwise a liability and so kept leashed.
It is worrisome that Americans spend too much time watching football, too little reading what’s happening around the world. Those who think Russia is a relic of the past probably stop reading news since 1990. Today’s Russia is stronger than it has ever been both militarily and financially.

More importantly, it has realized in these days and age, you cannot just muscle your way though and get what you want. Today’s Russia shows far better finesse in the world affairs than this US administration. We may refuse to admit it, but the truth is Russia is more popular in the world stage than America these days.

Americans better wake up and check our calendar, those good old days of shoot ‘em up, bomb N Korea, nuke Iran, Clint Eastwood style are over. We need to engage our adversaries constructively, not engage them by pulling trigger. We better wake up before we become a relic of the past.
Woe to all the fools who fell for the fake peace movement led by Cindy Sheehan and fostered by her accomplace Hugo Chavez.
America is not Chavez's problem.  His problem is in Venezula.  He is going to have to decide whether to dump the democracy business altogether and become a Castro-like tyrant or back off and really try to help his own countrymen.  He looks like a Castro wanabee to me.  With an inflation rate of 20% and an umployment rate of over 10%, he must do something right away or the nation will dump him.  His "hate America" distraction will only go so far.
Hey C York

In your post, you say you believe that that Bush is a corpse, devil, donkey, hitler, and the greatest terrorist in the world. And in "fairness" you also admit that Chavez is not a canidate for "Minister of the Year."

I just wanted to make sure you really understood what you typed.
The world needs bad guys to justify our (U.S. & Russia) ridiculous thirst for weapons, power, and defense? spending.  Remember who built/supported Ortega, Noriega and even Saddam prior to the invasion of Kuwait.  Chavez is the latest sound bite monkey in the global circus and like Castro before him he dances to a Kremlin beat.  Now can we get back to discussing what's really important?  I wonder like what's Paris totally thinking about like right now?  Nevermind that.  Where is she clubbing like tonight?
MichMan said: Putin and Chavez at least are both respected in thier own countries as well as most of the world.

Apparently MichMan views Communist dictatorships as 'respectable'.  This puts the rest of his comments in proper context, as far as I'm concerned.  He's one American who ought to go live under one or another of his admired leaders' rule, and leave America to those of us who value freedom.
Simple business tactics - never made sense as to why US continues to buy oil from Chavez and support his government and his ways.  We are by far his biggest customer and can send him and his country to dispair very quickly...  
This is a typical dictator rant from a less-than average dictator like Chavez. People like Chavez and Castro need to find someone to blame, and that blame always goes to the West. When are the people in the Middle East, Cuba, and South America going to wake up and start fixing their own problems? Blaming the USA isn't going to work forever. When this people realize how isolated they truly are, how the only friends they seem to have are 3rd world states, maybe they might start looking inside instead of outside.
Chavez said at the UN in NY City, "the devil was here, right here, he could smell the sulfur". I believe he was speaking about his self but was refuring to Bush. I couldn't belive the hatred that came from his speach.
 We have the tech. to get of the dependence for oil. It's going to take several years but our country can do it. Chavez and his OPEC buddys will have huge problems when their oil runs out.
 The defensive missles (non nuclear) being deployed in Europe are protection from Iran sending one of it's soon to be nuclear tiped weapons at Eastern EU. Putin is breaking out in a rash over this?
Citgo is owned by Chavez, boycott them
Putin and Chavez are "respected", MichMan?  Would that be because they truly SILENCE THEIR OPPOSITION and control their country's media?  Why are you pining for your communist utopia?
with russia militarizing venezuela, russia can be our friend and venezuela our militarized enemy. just like america did with israel
It's a simple two (2) step process:
Step (1) Think  
Step (2) Act
Some claim America to be more of a Democracy than a Republic, but I wonder if it's not more socialist than republic and the majority likes it that way. If you want a democracy act like it.  Learn the issues, Decide for yourself, then ACT.  
Think Globally, ACT Locally...
I have not made a  purchase at a store using Citgo fuel in six (6) months.  It should be this way with everyone and if not you could be a hypocrit.  As Citgo continues to make over $30 Billion USD/year what I see is that the majority of americans support Hugo Chavez, which is ok by me if that is the case.
If not, the answer is simple.
Put Up or Shut Up!
Bush will be know as a great leader when our enemy has been defeated!
Are you kidding me??? MichMan, Michigan. What are you smoking cuz I need me some. Have you been watching the demonstrations against Chavez and his do-nothing policies, which I believe is only to attack not only Bush but our country as a whole. next is a guy that poisons his ex-spys and is also headed for, deservedly so, toward economic disaster. Don't give me a history lesson on Russia my family had flee for their lives and lost most everthing they had worked for.Perhaps you should go live there for awhile!
Wow, the banter going back and forth. Look, remember the saying "We the People", we control our destiny, why don't you guys clamering about your disrespect for Bush, wake up. He's not the most intellegent person walking but he's also not the one holding all the cards. He's getting his information from varouis sources like local and federal agencies, other countries yet he's taking the blame. Stop pointing fingers at him, point them at your local and state politicians. Point them at those companies importing the very product you guys think we can do without. Don't be followers, be leaders. Start it on your own, that is unless you don't have the internal fortitude to do something yourself. Pull a Chavez and start speaking out instead of hiding on blogs spewing stuff. I for one don't wait for someone else to voice my opinion. God bless the USA.
Who cares what the putz Chavez says.  He is starving his people.  He has seized large farms etc and they are now non productive etc. Big Oil made deals with the devil and they can live with Chavez or pull up stakes and leave.  With the mid west senators pushing alternative fuel and wanting to keep high taxes on imports resulting in higher prices for dairy products, meat, poultry etc and the democratic senators receiving large contributions from the wall street crowd that has driven up oil prices along with gasoline prices thanks to their speculation on the futures markets all of which enpowers tyrants like Chavez the future doesn't look to bright
I think the biggest part of Russia, Venezuela,and Iran are like us here. we all want to live in peace.we all have bigger problems in our on home country that we need to take care of.make no mistake about it, we each love our country and will fight to keep our familys safe.There is no reason why we can't live in a world this big at peace.and for the most part I think that is what everyone wish for.But you can't have the Leaders of any country going around talking bad of another country. I say back off Leaders and listen to your people. we may differ in many ways. but one thing we all have is Love for our Family and Country. Let this be the foundation in which we build our world on.If you dislike something about a country take it to the table and leave it there.
Bush this, Bush that. Think deeper and you will find he's not the one your angry at. Take a more active role within your country, do your duty by contributing to society, politics and maybe, just maybe you can make the world a safer place. one that's less dependant on things like oil from lands far, far away. As far as our government ruining the government of other countries in South America, I think the drug trade and internal political tensions did in those counties. The United states didn't get involved to slow it down. God Bless the United States.
Michman,

Does suppression equal respected in your leftist world? Chavez closed the opposition newspapers and TV stations. Who is it exactly, that respects him? Castro and the Iranian leadship and fools like you.

Do a little research and show me how you came up with Bush being the most disrespected.
MICHMAN,MICHIGAN:
   what planet are you from? respected in their countries?who were those people in the streets of venezuela rioting against mr. chavez ?or did that little news item that was in every paper and on every T.V. news show escape you.the only thing that russia and cuba and venezuela have in comon is NO FREEEDON OF THE PRESS OR SPEECH other than that they are swell places to live in.
Scott c: russia has no need for his oil they have plenty of their own. what you might not know about venezuelen oil is that it is so heavy a crude that only a few places have the technology to refine it. we are the only country in his neck of the woods that can. even if he cut us off the next refiner that can handle it is so far away that the freight charges would eat away enough of his profits to put a squeeze on his economy that is already in trouble.But with his help cuba will soon be drilling off shore between cuba and florida. But our brilliant senators from florida will not let us drill for the same VAST OIL AND NATURAL GAS RESERVES THAT CUBA WILL BE DRILLING.the reason they us is to protect our beaches. the question i have for anyone out there is how can we end our forien oil dependancy   in the short term without drilling?that would give us the time to put in place the alternative fuel system that we so badly need. I am for useing anything but oil that seems to be always paid for with lives and money that is used to hurt us in the end.the only real way to tell all these so called dictators to get bent is to not need their product at all.and for good measure sell the tech to every other country that has a need for oil so they won't buy it either.so to mr. chavez and others of his ilk SCREW YOU.
As the polls show, we Americans are not too happy with this president but, we certianly don't like some third world dictator bashing him. Keep it up Chavez, Saddam also drew a line in the sand at lest twice and the big foot of Uncle Sam just kept crossing it. Watch out!
C York from Oklahoma has obviously NOT been paying much attention to what Hugo Chavez has been saying if he thinks that all of it constitutes an accurate representation of our government.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,214709,00.html

Now I don't like all the decisions Bush has made, but he is not Satan.
chavez will be a victim of his own policies ,he'll probably be overthrown in a coup.Democracy under a dictator doesnt work.Both him and Putin want to change the rules to suit their own needs.Putin is the one we need to watch ,not little angry man Chavez.
DICKSONATOR SAYS THAT THE MURDERER DICTATOR HUGO CHAVEZ HAS BROUGHT "PROSPERITY TO THE AVERAGE PERSON IN VENEZUELA". I WAS BORN IN VENEZUELA AND THANKS TO GOD AND TO THE USA, I AM NOW AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. TODAY, IN 2007, OF EVERY TEN VENEZUELANS, EIGHT ARE EXTREMELY POOR. CHAVEZ IS A TRAITOR WHO GAVE AWAY VENEZUELA TO THE OTHER MURDERER DICTATOR FIDEL CASTRO AND PAYS CASTRO MILLIIONS OF DOLLARS IN CASH AND OIL FOR THE PERSONAL PHYSICAL PROTECTION OF CHAVEZ. THERE ARE MORE THAN 200,000. CUBANS THROUGHOUT THE 20 STATES AND THE FEDERAL DISTRICT IN VENEZUELA, AND CHAVEZ HAS GIVEN THESE CUBANS VENEZUELAN PASSPORTS TO INFILTRATE AND PHYSICALLY DESTROY ANY DISIDENT OF THE DICTATOR CHAVEZ.  THE USA MUST STOP BUYING A SINGLE BARREL OF OIL, AND DECLARE VENEZUELA AN UNFRIENDLY NATION TO THE USA AND HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF EMBARGO WE HAVE WITH CUBA, AGAINST VENEZUELA. I SUPPORT OUR PRESIDENT BUSH'S DECISION TO GO AND ATTACK OUR ENEMIES ABROAD IN IRAQ, AFGANISTAN, AND EVEN IRAN IF WE NEED TO, INSTEAD OF LETTING THEM ATTACK AND KILL US HERE IN THE USA AGAIN. HURRAY FOR PRESIDENT BUSH.
Chavez, Fidel and Morales are the only decent leaders on the planet--at least they are trying their best to educate and promote the well being of all their citizens instead of just the top 3%--not one of them has attacked    
and murdered 1000's of civilians in countless small countries like the supposed "democracy" I'd vote for anyone of them if they would run for office here in Canada  100% lefty and proud of it!
I agree with most of the comments made,I just want to add that when we look back at these times we are now living in a few years from now,we will wish we did something about then,because by then it will be too late.
Chavez, Fidel and Morales are the only decent leaders on the planet--at least they are trying their best to educate and promote the well being of all their citizens instead of just the top 3%--not one of them has attacked    
and murdered 1000's of civilians in countless small countries like the supposed "democracy" I'd vote for anyone of them if they would run for office here in Canada  100% lefty and proud of it!
It make you think, when reading this article, why is it that all the worlds powers are so worried about what the US is thinking.  Even if Bush is hated, there is a real fear among the world powers what we will do if we get ticked off.  They are just pushing there mussle trying to see how far they can go before the US acts.  Then they back off and try again later.  Its just like a two toddlers trying to see how far they can push mommy before she explodes and punishes them for acting out. Oh they may wail for a while but next week the whole thing starts all over again till mom sets them straight!!!
Chavez is playing a dangerous game with his so call friends in Russia, Iran etc.  I believe that in the long run he is going to significantly cause major damage to the country of Venezuela and further increase the crisis for its people.
hugo is noisy eh? when a nation removes free expression, it begins isolating itself; not only from it's own people, but from the world as well.
hugo chaves? lol no worries. imo.
i feel that chavez make's lot of noise and do little for his country,if he think's that bush is a stupid man let him address the world problem and see how it is to be world power,i feel sorry for american's who call's bush an idiot,if not bush at this time of trouble i think the people of terror would have selince all of us.
Venezuela is just a Russian customer, and a small one, way on the other side of the earth.  If Germany or China did the same, it would have been met with open arms to discuss what to do.  Putin is not a complainer, but a doer.  Russia's aim is not to antagonize the US, but to get its respect and cooperation, despite Bush.  Even Brazil snubs Venezuela, the loudmouth complaining shrimp of a nation.  Although some of what Hugo says about Bush is right, Chavez is still seen as way out of line, as he doesn't have credibility himself, his nation has little to preach about.  I respect Putin far more than Chavez, he doesn't complain, but simply tells the US what what responses must be taken for which actions.
The reason people come to the US is to get away from people such as Chavez. I do no agree with everything my counrty does, but it is my country and I get upset when a dictator that is killing his people points his finger at us.


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