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Iraqi justice for ‘Chemical Ali’

Posted: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:08 PM
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Very few people are going to cry for Ali Hassan Al-Majid, "Chemical Ali," who was sentenced to death by a U.S.-supported Iraqi court on Sunday. Al-Majid was clearly guilty of horrible crimes. He admitted in court to ordering the destruction of Kurdish villages in 1988.

I have watched videos of mass executions of Kurds, lined up in what is now a public park in Irbil. They were shot for allegedly cooperating with Kurdish fighters, the Peshmerga. Kurdish villages, in particular Halabja, were also attacked with chemical gas, massacring about 5,000 men, women and children, their twisted dead bodies filmed by horrified international news crews.

But did Al-Majid, like Saddam before him, receive a trial that was free of political intervention? It doesn’t seem so. 

Political pressure?
The Iraqi government has consistently pressured the court, making guilty verdicts near forgone conclusions and undermining the tribunal's credibility.

It started right at the beginning.

In January 2006, the first judge to try Saddam, Rizgar Amin – a polite, methodical, conscientious man and a firm believer in the rule of law – withdrew from the case. He told me it was because of political pressure.

Amin was replaced by Judge Rauf Abdel Rahman. Rahman was much harsher. He threw defendants out of court, and ignored the boycotts of defense lawyers.

The government also quietly replaced two other judges who worked on Saddam’s case.  The move was meant to assure that Saddam would be given the death penalty.

Rahman sentenced Saddam to death in November 2006.

Al-Majid’s trial followed a similar pattern.

In September 2006, the government sacked Judge Abdullah al-Ameri because he was seen as too soft on Saddam and his cohorts.  Ameri angered Iraqi government officials when he said in court that Saddam was "not a dictator." Ameri was replaced by Judge Mohammed Al Oreibi Al Khalifah who on Sunday sentenced al-Majid to the gallows. 

Miranda Sissons, head of the Iraqi program at International Center for Transitional Justice, is one of the few people who has followed all of the twists and turns of these trials.

Tonight she told me, "Political interference in the tribunal has been shameless, but seems to have gotten better as interest in the proceedings has waned after Saddam’s death."

Yesterday, Al-Majid was given five death sentences.  The sentences will automatically be appealed

He shouldn’t expect much.  

Improvement, but still far from perfect
When Saddam’s former vice president, Taha Yassin Ramadan, issued his appeal in December 2006, the tribunal actually made his sentence harsher.

Ramadan was initially sentenced to life in prison. The appellate court said, "no, it will be death."  It was like a frustrated parent warning a disobedient child, "If you keep complaining, you will only make it worse on yourself!" 

It was not American justice.  It was Iraqi justice, better than under Saddam, but still deeply flawed.

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Lets face it is the US people that supported at first the war in Iraq. And now some of them going soft. It was a right decision to go in before it possible got worst. Sadam had no place in this country government as well any one that support him. But now this war is not becomeing any more war for freedom to help opress country but it became a war for money for oil. And I don't think any one should support that. After War World II Russians took over many countries and first it appeared to come as a friends that bring freedom to damaged countries, but through many  years they were nothing else but opressors that try to gain control of additional terytory. Lets stop and think if some how USA is not doing the same. USA already accomplished a great deal in there it freed Iraqies from its opressor let them rule now pull out watch from the side. Do not sacrifice any more lifes of your country mans for what it appeares to be fight for Oil controll. I am not criticizing US government but warning so that they won't look like opressors rather than a country that delivered freedom to so many after such a long time. And I do not care how thas idiots got killed for me US soldiers could even shot them as soon as they capture them because thats the only thing they deserved. So stop wayning about how the verdict was deliverd who cares. They got what was long time comeing And I still think they got lucky, I still belive they should be executed slowly over long period of time so they could feel they dieing.
WHERE DOE'S ALL THE HATE COME FROM?
Too bad we keep trying to make a democracy where none can exist.  I don't think that Iraq is capable of ruling itself under anything but a dictatorship.  Obviously they have done nothing but act like a bunch of animals when given a little freedom.  What a waste of american lives.  Lets get out and let survival of the fittest rule.  It is the only thing they understand.
Of course the verdict was a foregone conclusion. Chemical Ali is guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. Since that's the operative test in a trial, I fail to see what teh complaining is about.

Wasn't Rizgar Amin, the judge who was replaced after the Saddaam trial dragged on and, accomodating every churlish defense lawyer trick in the book, also the one who replied to Saddaam's expressed hope fo being more merciful when he regained power, "God willing"? If he was that judge, and I am pretty sure he was, his continued presence on the bench was an affront to justice.

No offense, but even without such an improper showing of sympathy to the defense as the "God willing" crack, any judge who fails to control the outrageous antics of defense counsel or of defendants who threaten witnesses against them deserves to be removed. We do the same here, and rightly so. It is not only prejudice in favor of the prosecution that is improper. Judges must apply the law to the facts, and I fail to see how any of the defendants mentined could have gotten less than the noose absent one sweetheart of a plea deal.

Only hapless U.N. tribunals allow defendants to fillibuster their way out of a verdict until they die of old age in a jail cell.
The case of Charles Taylor, like that of Slobodan Milosevic before it, compares very unfavorably with that of Chemical Ali. Ali hasn’t been able to rule the courtroom the way Taylor (and Milosevic and Foday Sankoh before him, who went
I see the move on crowd has arrived:let's hang the president and the vice president they are responsible for (depending on who's posting you read)600,000 to 800,000 ,what a crock. people like you are more dangerous than all the dictators of the world. talk about the end justifies the means, you would lie to youre mothers to get youre way. lies like those are so far out there that you push any one leaning too far on way or an other to the center for that i am greatful. You and the Rosies of the world would love nothing more than to split this country up so you can use the devide and conquer theory on who ever disagrees with youre nonsense. Thank god there are still a majority of grown ups that are still here and vocal against youre type. WHACO'S
Nobody should cry over a spoilt milk. So called Chemical Ali got justice Iraqi style. The thousands of innocent Iraqi's he and his cronis murdered didn't have a chance at justice. So long Ali. RIP until Allah renders his verdict on you on judgement day. We should not criticize the Iraqi judicial system at this time but rather embrace it, as the Country continues to find solutions for democracy Iraqi style.


Hey Mike. What country are you from? And let me let you on a little secret. All countries have their skeletons in their closets. All of Eastern and Western Europe. Asia, Africa etc... All have repressed people, massacred people etc.... You love to point finger at the "Americans". It keeps you from taking any kind of responsibility. Why don't you investigate your country's history and then you may say something to US AMERICANS. And just to remind you.If you are from Western Europe, we bailed your countries out of German hands twice! But its cool, I will remember that when your country is reoccupied. The only two well spoken English words the Europe continentals knew: "I SURRENDER"  
Saddam and Ali have each received a more unbiased trial than any one of the thousands of civilians the two of them have admittedly condemned to death over the past few decades. They may not have been textbook perfect trials, but what trial (even in the US) ever is?
In the U S A when someone kills his wife and children out courts find them guilty and reward those killers with life in prison at taxpayers expense of Approx. $50,000.oo per year Give the Iraqui's credit for doing it at less cost.
Liberals whine because that is all liberals will do. World powers wield world power. If and when we do nothing (Darfur) we get slammed about that as well. Too all who are and have served, just do the best you can, ignore the media, they are only selling "news". There are no Purple Hearts or Bronze Stars to be had for that. What you do means something, what the media thinks means nothing.
whats one more life,quit pretending anybody cares.wipe them all out and get it over with.
The guilty deserve to be punished. Period.
Good riddance of bad rubish!  Sharia justice will be served.
Dear Mr. Richard Engel:

All I have to say is just to be very, very careful!! Your mother must be a saint for all the worry she must do.  You and your co-workers and loved ones continue to be in my thoughts and prayers.  

To Dr. Lillie Fears:
Good luck with your research, especially the recruitment portion.   This brings back memories from my thesis.  :)
I don't believe we should ever take pleasure in anyone's death - whether it be an innocent civilian, or an horrific monster.  Murder is murder is murder.  Besides, a death sentence won't undo the crime.  It will just mean one more dead body.  And before everyone attacks me as being a bleeding heart liberal who is just talking out of her ass, I did once know someone who was murdered, although her murderer killed himself.  And as far as the Iraqi judicial system being corrupt, you know the expression:  "Garbage in, garbage out."  What did we expect?
Having spent 2 ½ years in Iraq and seen the devastation in human life and infrastructure these men wrought, I will echo sentiments about their demise. Over 5,000 men, women and children killed in one day at Halabja alone would be enough for any sane group of people to return the guilty verdicts. And then add the rest of the 100,000+ Kurds and others murdered during Operation Anfal, and you have even more evidence than one would reasonably require. The Iraqi judicial system may be flawed, but as more than one person here has commented, ours is far from perfect and theirs IS a different society. Give it a rest and consider the people murdered and maimed by their “leaders”.
We should stop calling it "terrorism" .. that implies power in the one causing the terror... call it what it really is... "cowardism"  
From watching your broadcast on July 2, 2007, you leave the impression that you may be on the wrong side of this war on terror. Comment please.


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