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Faith-seeking in an unexpected place

Posted: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:24 PM
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China may have 144 million Internet users, but spend a Sunday afternoon at the multi-storey Xidan Books, and you’ll discover a whole lot of Chinese folks trawling for information the old fashioned way.

Three sections in particular were jammed with people, nose deep in pages, faces set in deep concentration.

As China’s economy grows at breakneck, double-digit speed, it was hardly surprising to see clusters of hopeful entrepreneurs parked in front of shelves labelled "Store Operation."

Adrienne Mong / NBC News
In search of the next big thing... at the Xidan Books Building.

Nor was it unexpected to find people crowding around books on how to invest, given the rollercoaster performance of China’s stocks. The A-shares market, for instance, which is open to domestic traders and some foreign institutional investors, has surged 250 percent since 2006.

Reading one’s way to spirituality?
However, my jaw dropped when I spun directly around and noticed dozens of readers crowding the aisle for "Buddhism and Taoism."

This is, after all, a country run by a government famous for its harsh views on religion and religious philosophy.

And, yet, in recent months local media have reported a growing popular interest in organized faiths like Buddhism and Christianity as well as traditional Chinese philosophies such as Confucianism and Taoism.

In fact, one could say the Chinese central government has been shilling for Taoism. The evidence? In April, China’s director of the State Administration for Religious Affairs, Ye Xiaowen, led a promotional tour of the Tao Te Ching – Taoism’s principal text, written roughly in 500 B.C. by Lao Tzu – to several Chinese cities, at an estimated cost of $1 million.

Taoism: The way to social harmony
Taoism appeals to the government here because of its emphasis on social harmony. And a "harmonious society" is one of President Hu Jintao’s top goals these days as he and the rest of the Chinese leadership attempt to steer the nation’s course through economic swells, all the while maintaining firm control.

And with the stock market’s patchy history here – riots erupted in Shenzhen after severe stock losses in 1992 – it’s no small wonder the government is looking to encourage social harmony.

Adrienne Mong / NBC News
The cavernous Xidan Books Building

But like other modernizing societies, there also seems to be enough anecdotal evidence to believe that China’s burgeoning middle class – which can now feed itself and purchase the latest GM model – might also be wanting a bit of spiritual meaning to make sense of their transforming lives.

I decided to approach a middle-aged woman leafing through a book on Buddhist history. 

"Excuse me," I interrupted her. "There seem to be a lot of people in this section. Why is that?"

Adrienne Mong / NBC News
Reading one's way to becoming a better person.

She looked up from her book and said, "People are interested in Buddhism these days. We find relevance in it."

I asked her whether she was a Buddhist.

The woman stared at me closely. "It’s not a religion," she answered. "It’s a way of life. It teaches you how to live." 

Which – as we learned today that a man in Shanghai was shot and killed by police after holding a three-year old girl hostage at a KFC because he had lost all his money in the stock market – seems infinitely more harmonious.

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One of the atrocities that Mao committed was purging the traditional values from Chinese society most notably the Culture Revolution. A country cannot move ahead far enough without a solid foundation of faith and moral values. The government of Hu Jintao realized it and has started measure to restore the lost traditional values. The Chinese people I know are loving, loyal and peaceful folks because of the deeply embedded influence of Confucianism.
Edgar Cayce predicted 40 years or more ago that China would become the "cradle of Christianity" at sometime in the future. It has seemed far-fetched but he also saw the fall of the USSR. It's time to get right with our creator, love God and each other more than we love ourselves. Pave the way people, spread the word. The voice within is the loudest voice with which God speaks; just be still and listen. Thank you.
Reminds me of the Beatles song, "Eleanor Rigby." I see lots of lonely people searching, searching, searching for life's true meaning. They will find the answer in the Bible, the Word of God. I pray they search in the aisle which has the book which can answer their questions completely.
humans will forever look for comfort from a supreme force.
Alright..How does the man who was shot in Shanghai have anything to do with Chinese people wanting to be more in touch with Buddhism or spirituality? Do you know for a fact that the police who shot this man is religious? or is he a Buddhist? I simply don't see what the big surprise is on people wanting to be more spiritual and religious.
Good article. Thanks.
I'm glad the peace of Buddha, Taoism, Confucianism and other belief systems are spreading through China again. (And the lady is right, Buddhism -- like Confucianism -- is a life philosophy, not a religion.) If China is truly moderating its extreme anti-religion stance, it's a hopeful sign.
Notwithstanding the massive attempt in the old Soviet block and in communist China to outlaw religion, people are naturally spiritual. See karen Armstron'gs work on the History of God. Sadly many acts of violence have been carried out in the name of religion so that many believe it is irrelevant. Your article illustrates our natural inclination to think beyond ourselves as a species.
I pray for the millions of "house church" Christians in China who are so persecuted by the various levels of government. My prayer is that they will find peace in the presence of God and that their faith in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord will be un flinching. Even those imprisoned for their faith in Christ have the blessed opportunity of sharing in Christ's sufferings, while reflecting His love toward fellow prisoners and even the guards who so often mistreat them terribly. Wherever the church of Jesus Christ has been persecuted it has flourished. China is no exception. Praise God!
Because of religious fanaticism and Americas preocupation with the "Baable"(bible), this nation is reverting back socially to a type of state someting like Iran with its Quran and its 7th century era shiaric law, I mean, looking at the other comments Im the only one here who is'ent desperatly hoping that the Chinese convert to Christianity! I know that they never will. The Chinese people are much too intelligent to fall for an ol' charlotan game like that, more so than the dumb redneck homies here in the "baable" belt!
Taoism, Buddhism and Confucianism are more than spiritual paths for the Chinese. They are part of China's history and culture. Any time spirituality is forced upon or forced out of individuals, humanity suffers. This is as true of the state forbidding religion as it is true of forcing your religious path onto others. None of the Chinese paths require forced coersion (or elimination) of the rest of the non-believing planet. Perhaps western culture should be taking notes.
Let them do what ever they want. But theres only one truth. When the times start getting worse and things dont seem to be getting better, we will see who everyone will turn to.The WORD will show him self at that time and every one will bow down to him and then there wont be one athiest in the fox hole.
Buddhism and Taoism do have a lot to offer modern China, although many people misunderstand the teachings in ways that I thought were reserved to college freshmen in America. "The yin yang means like good and evil are both necessary, so if there are good men there MUST be bad men, if there are honest men there must be corrupt men" I often hear this spouted in China when the corruption of the government is brought up. That idea is quite contrary to Taoism's goal of harmony, because evil and corruption are both unbalancing. This gives the evil and corrupt in China's society a "blank check" to screw other people, especially those in the new rich part of that society. Confucianism rising again bothers me a bit though. First, Chinese do not make a division between early Confucianism and the later damaging interpretations we know as neo-Confucianism. It is likely then that any re-emergence of Confucianism will come back with the worst aspects of it still intact. Confucianism is not a religion but a societal philosophy that at its worst (the neo aspects) teaches blind obedience to your leaders. I'm sure that the government here would LOVE to see a return to those roots so they can exploit a once again obidient populace. This "spiritual exploration" was much more obvious in the late 90's with the appearance of Fa Lun Gong. Often believed to be a "simple meditation exercise" by the west it is something more akin to Scientology where members are expected to bankrupt themselves for the group. I'm NOT backing up any Chinese government claims that they were trying to overthrow the government, but to me they always look like Aum Shinrikyo (the group that posioned the Tokyo subway). They even believe that their "great leader" can fly, though he's too modest to do so. They also believe that anyone of mixed ancestry cannot go to heaven.
This aphorism is attributed to the Buddha. "Do not put your faith in traditions only because they have been honored by many generations." Buddhism has been referred to as a religion without faith. We learned that there are three essential practices of Buddhism, i.e. as a religion, as a philosophy, or as a way of life. It can be practiced as any one of these, or in any combination of the three. Buddhism in its essence urges the reduction of human suffering.
All of you gave deep and meaningful insight in your view of the article.I to was once in the various religions and philosphy. If you are interested their is a gentleman who is a grandmaster in the martial arts,Named Brady Cameron in america who went through some awesome experiences and now has made a personal development programs out of it called creotology personal development i think it is awesome. just wanted to give my experience and to sound of that we have great philosphy created here in america as well. the site is creotology.com
Contrary to what some in the USA think, spirituality is part of the inner landscape of all peoples and a part of all national identities.It cannot be codified in a book or suppressed by rule of law. It is a part of being human. As for Fear, Dogma,Retribution,Exclusion, Superstition and Self Rightousness we can look these up in our own religous retoric.
As the government control over the people in China loosens its grip, the people there are searching tfor maening to fill the void they find inside themselves. Many are trying to fill the void by seeking "western" solutions like materialism, physical gratification, etc. But many young people are also searching for something deeper. I have had many great spiritual discussions in China over the past few years and it is wonderful to see the humble and open hearted yearning for truth. Wether it is through Buddhist, Christian or Taoist teachings it is a wonderful start.
Susan Reeves your comment has absolutely nothing to do with this article - please stop trying to push your religion down our throats and re-read the article which is about Buddhism and Taoism in China, it is not about some useless "christian prediction" that is obviously totally wrong...
I travel to China frequently and encounter plenty of people who are on verge of a spiritual explosion. I don't deal directly with government officials, but the common man and woman on the street are looking for spritual guidance in many directions. I draw no distinction between a life philosophy and religion; they oight to be one and the same. You are you who you are, not merely the jacket worn on the day of worship. I think that is how the Chinese will embrace spirituality.
God has allowed the people of China to a lot of hardship. He also allowed Christians there to endure many trials and some have died in the name of Jesus. May God be glorified by their sacrifices. May many more come to know his name and the salvation which comes through Him.
To Linda of San Diego: i believe the author was simply trying to emphisize the need for harmony in society, he was not saying that the police who shot the man was religious, but simply that the Chinese really are seeking something to help them in their lives. You cannot deny that at some point you do need to realize who your source of strength in life is, or who it should be. If you rely on yourself, you will see you fail yourself too much, if you rely on something else in this earth, it will also fail you. What people need to acknowledge is that they need to rely on Christ, who is the ultimate source of strength. With His help, we will be able to face anything in this world.
Let's hope organized religion keeps it's historical and modern ugly face out of China.
I earnestly pray that millions of Chinese people will find the only way to salvation in Jesus Christ.
Know Jesus and know peace. No Jesus, there is no peace.
PEOPLE! Don't fool yourselves into thinking that the Chinese Goverment is softening on religious freedom. They still imprison people for practicing their own faith, (worshiping in ways/places not sanctioned by the government) in particular, Christianity. People die in Chinese prisons and their children are routinely arrested for their parents' faith in an attempt to get parents to recant their confession of faith. It is very true that the Chinese people are hungry for spiritual meaning, which is why house churches are so prevalent in China, but the only thing the Chinese government is interested in is keeping them under brutal, oppressive control. If you have any doubts, check out the VOM website (Voice of the Martyrs). http://www.persecution.com/members/countryMap/index.cfm?action=countryView&countryID=5
I find comfort in the fact the Chiness are feeling a need to search for a deeper meaning iin life. I would hope that the American people are praying forr China.
What exactly is "enough anecdotal evidence"? Linda is right. I hope that Chinese society does not trade one oppressing dogma for another. Would we be feeling so good about their spiritual search if they were seeking 72 virgins in Paradise?
Because of religious fanaticism and Americas preocupation with the "Baable"(bible), this nation is reverting back socially to a type of state someting like Iran with its Quran and its 7th century era shiaric law, I mean, looking at the other comments Im the only one here who is'ent desperatly hoping that the Chinese convert to Christianity! I know that they never will. The Chinese people are much too intelligent to fall for an ol' charlotan game like that, more so than the dumb redneck homies here in the "baable" belt! PNGanly (Sent Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:26 PM) Peace be with you.
Although American media outlets will never admit to the Christian religion, it's obvious to see why China is beginning to enjoy the fruits of its labor. If you really look at the countries that have been or are currently successful, you'll see that there is a huge protestant base associated with that country. It's exciting to see Korea, China, and some smaller African countries developing quite rapidly both socially and economically. However, it's sad to see America decrease from its greatness as people leave the faith. Whether we choose to believe or not, you have to admit (after doing some research), there is an amazing coorelation between true faith in Jesus and economic prosperity.
China will never be a home for Christianity so Christians should forget about that. If it ever became such a home it would become so different from Western Christianity that Western Christians would immediately condemn it as heretical. A good example are the "Hidden Christians" of Japan who believe that Jesus or Zesusu was born from Maruya, a 12-year-old Filipino girl from Luzon who was made pregnant by Deusu or god. They believe in 12 heavens. Pontius Pilate is two people--Ponsha and Piroto--who were soldiers that arrested Zesusu. Judas or Judatsu betrayed Zesusu and as his reward was stricken with a huge nose and a long tongue that hung out of his mouth. He was so distraught over the disfigurement that he runs into the woods and hangs himself. When Zesusu learns of Judatsu's death, he is grief-stricken. 3 days after his death, Zesusu came down from heaven and stood on his coffin while people worshiped him. He then taught the pope about he afterlife for 50 days before going back to heaven. When the Catholic Church demanded that the Hidden Christians revise their story into the traditional Catholic one and come back to the fold, the Hidden Christians told them to get lost. And that's what will happen on a much larger scale if the East accepts Christianity as the West hopes. Those Asian nations that do adopt traditional Western Christianity will fall into 3rd worldism having lost their identity as a people--so careful what you wish for. As for Confucianism, it is one of worst blights on a society. Confucianism has created the rigid, intolerant, xenophobic, misogynistic society that made China ripe for exploitation by a Mao. I have no opinion on Taoism and Buddhism.
Religious fanatics will ruin America. It will turn into a Christian version of Middle-East. We will again become economic slaves to Asia.
Althought a fantastic idea, the big trouble with organized religion is the premise "My belief is better than yours" while secretly doubting in the first place whether I really believe "My belief". If one does not doubt "My belief" then they are not being honest. Further, religious comparision is based on an incorrect inherant premise that "My archaic belief" is better because of the incorrect in your archaic belief. It fails to recognize the incorrect in "My archaic belief". State interference in religion - pro or anti - is far worse. In an "ideal" world, religion should be personal and in that realm, it remains no longer organized.
No surprise to see so many misguided people still caught up in the propaganda of "religion"! Tell me again how great it is when all religions have murdered so many people and still do. Especially "christianity" which is only an offshoot of another murderes religion. P. T. Barnum had it right, "a sucker is born every minute" and they are the future victums of this business. Religions has devided, control and enslave humans and that's it's purpose along with makeing a shit load of money! Same as governments. There are none soooooooooooo bind as those who still do not see! A human's relationship with the real God, is between them and God! It is not required to be sanctioned by anyone else or a "religious" institution and or the real "big business"! As far as Edgar Cayce, he also predicted Atlantis was suppose to be rising and or discovered several years ago. So where is it? He should have stayed with what he was good at and not at "predictions". But since this was brought up then I predict that in the next five years, humans will find out the truth about "religion" and it won't be pretty!
Buddhism is in fact a religion. It does not have a central deity in the western sense but does have a very intricate spiritual pantheon that far exceeds a simple "life philosophy". The San-jiao (Buddhism, Taoism and Confucianism) are intricately woven and in practice do recognize deities. Classifiying them as "life philosophies" is not only incorrect but also quite insulting.
Morals = Ethics + Tooth Fairy. Faith is poison in the modern age. Serious belief in the non-existant is a mental illness, not something to be paraded about as a positive. Your god was made-up by other humans who lived in an ignorant and savage time...and your god's rules reflect that. Therefore, god-believers are ignorant and savage. They remind us of this all the time, at home and abroad, by their hate-filled actions toward those who do not believe their fairytales.
I recommend the book, "god is not Great", How Religion Poisons Everything" by Christopher Hitchens. "He addresses the most urgent issue of our time: the malignant force of religion in the world." "He makes the ultimate case against religion through a close and learned reading of the major religious texts." He writes,"God did not make us. We made God." Religion, he explains, is a distortion of our origins, our nature, and the cosmos. We damage our children - and endanger our world - by indoctrinating them. Cristopher Hitchens was named, to his own amusement, number 5 on a list of the "Top 100 Public Intellectuals" by Foregn Policy and Britain's Prospect. For more information about Christopher Hitchens, you can visit: www.twelvebooks.com
The gospel is being opend to everyone across the world now.. we are in the final days, if you read your Bible and its prophecies, Jesus is returning to take us, who have accepted Him and God in His infinite love, wants all to come to Him, though all wont, he gives numerous chances to.. May many Chinese and people everywhere come to know the only Savior there was, is , or ever will be Jesus Christ..
Hey, Chinese are following religious model that never failed and keeps dumber general population happy pursuing one of the made up religions. Please note though the direct relation between population starting to question freedoms and one party rule due to improving education and a quick move towards religion as a tool to keep sheep in check. It works in our country. It works in every country. Majority is just not educated enough to make decisions for themselves, right?... "Faith means not wanting to know what is true." - Freidrich Nietzsche.
Does anybody realize that nobody ever killed anyone for their own good (the stake) or went to war in the name of Zeus? It took the Christians to come up with that.
John Doe (June 7 11:43, maybe you should find some inner peace and re-read Ms. Reeves comments. She merely stated a quote from an individual. This article was about people's search for knowledge through the tradition ways, of using books and part of that search included religion. MANY religions were mentioned. So, perhaps this John Doe should re-read both pieces and not let his hate and anger toward religion (particularly Christianity) reflect on America, as a whole. Sometimes the ignorant say ignorant things and sometimes the angry are so blind, they can't see beyond themselves. Perhaps, Mr. Doe you should seek some time with your Maker. I say these thing out of love. Search for peace, I'll pray for you.
It is worrying that so many people here think that Christianity is the way to go in China. They have some of the most interesting religions in the world and it would be nice if they are able to keep things as they are now. With a steadily growing number of missionaries and Christian-oriented organisations in China I just can't help but feel like the Christians are forcing their way in.
The message of Christ (and Christianity) is this: Love your neighbor as yourself. Love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. While I agree that Christianity has been misused, abused, and that many awful things have been done in the name of religion, those of you trashing Christianity do not understand the real message of Christ. But there is hope for you still - don't worry. The greatest persecuter of Christians - Saul - was stopped dead in his tracks on the way to Damascus and became the founder of the modern church - under the name of Paul. There is hope for you still! Praise God
In response to ::::Because of religious fanaticism and Americas preocupation with the "Baable"(bible), this nation is reverting back socially to a type of state someting like Iran with its Quran and its 7th century era shiaric law, I mean, looking at the other comments Im the only one here who is'ent desperatly hoping that the Chinese convert to Christianity! I know that they never will. The Chinese people are much too intelligent to fall for an ol' charlotan game like that, more so than the dumb redneck homies here in the "baable" belt! :::::: - PNGanly I think that is an incredibly discriminatory thing to say. I myself am a well educated Christian with a 148 point Intelligence Quotient (I am not posting that to brag, but demonstrate my statement). It seems unfair for you to say that people of intelligence would not convert to Christianity, I myself was athiesitic/agnostic for many years before converting to Christianity. I can defend my faith well, and believe it is the most logical faith system on the planet(I realize that this is a subjective statement open for argument). If anyone wishes to discuss the subject of whether Christianity can be intellectually rational and not merely proposing a specious argument for faith, AND discuss it logically and calmly please e-mail me. xdannypoox@aol.com
It is good to hear that the once called "religious underground" in China is finding a place in the minds and hearts of the people in a more open fashion. I have been watching such issues unfold since I first heard of the massive abuse of religious rights in that country decades ago. The Bible predicts that all the world will open up to hearing of religious matters. China will not be the last. So I pray that the people of that land will hear, learn, and choose as time get shorter.
Wherever Christianity has gone, it has destroyed the cultures of the indigenous populations. I hope the Chinese are smart enough not to allow Christianity to gain any foothold in their country. A renewed interest in their ancient religions and philosophies is fine from a cultural and historical perspective. However, if the government allows people to actually practice religion, it better be prepared for the sectarian strife that is sure to follow. All hope for a peaceful and prosperous future for China will be lost.
Dear People, Please consider your statements and beliefs carefully before spouting them. Get honest with yourself and God and if you are open, he will convict you himself. The world is a stage for unbelievers, so that none will be able to say at Judgement they were not afforded an opportunity.
OK, so you do or don't embrace a faith. Isn't it great that you get to choose for yourself? Whether or not you believe one faith or another, you should be allowed to think, believe and practice the faith you choose without fear of imprisonment or torture from the government or others. I don't really care if you like "religion" or not . . . the issue for China is NOT whether China becomes a Christian nation or Hindu or Buddhist or Muslim, for that matter. Governments cannot be Christians or Hindus or Buddhists or Muslims -- only people can make those faith commitments. The issue for China is whether or not it allows its citizens to worship (if they choose) as they choose. I'm a Christian, and as frustrated as I get in America about how Christians are portrayed, I am incredibly blessed and privileged to live in a nation where I may worship freely and speak with people about Jesus, leaving them with a choice to choose or reject him. If you think that's folly, you're entitled to your freedom to believe that, but it's my right to disagree -- I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I realize not everyone will accept him, but at least it's their choice. In China, nobody gets to make that choice for themselves. The Government offers watered down versions of faith in state-sanctioned churches, where the most major of tenets of faith are forbidden and where attending a church as a family with minors is also forbidden, so you can't even raise your children the way you want. If people decide to go against these policies, they are imprisoned under false charges, tortured into confession and if they live, they are left to live with lifelong injuries as a result. It's why China is still on the list of countries with poor human rights records and is likely to remain so for some time to come. Whether or not you believe in any faith, no one should have to endure what these people endure.
Personally, I hope China doesn't convert to Christianity. The first reason that comes to mind is that (having been to China) I have noticed that the traffic on Christmas Eve increases greatly, making it impossible to get anywhere. The second one that comes to mind is that the God of the Old Testament once tried to wipe out all life on Earth and did an assortment of other unethical things. What was ethical when the Bible was written isn't ethical by today's standards. For example, the Bible makes women seem like second-class citizens. If Chinese were to follow the Bible word-for-word (as Christian Fundamentalists seem to want) then we would have about half a billion more sexists in the world.
I just love how people make assumptions about what it really means to be a Christian without actually having been one. What a joke.
what makes any of us believe that this is a first to the chinese?we can understand why it was not done in public before and maybe they are testing the waters to see what is done about it.for those of you that think religion is a fairy tale, well it may be but why would you want to make a joke of those that have a belief in whatever makes them feal good about thenselves and their lives. i have not seen one posting that is trying to change what you believe even if it is nothing.I myself am not dedicated even thought i was raised roman catholic but a little believing hurts no one.you an the other hand seem to always want to convert people into nothing. the piont is you can go through life with nothing as a guide and it works for you. It's like going on a trip without a map and getting lost you may find one day that you might have needed one and are now you wont ask for directions.


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