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The great Canadian meltdown

Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:41 AM
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It is an icy spectacle to behold – the Columbia Icefield certainly lives up to its billing.

This 130-square-mile complex of mint-green headwalls and moraines, up to nine football fields thick, contains the largest glaciers in all of the Canadian Rockies.

Jim Maceda / NBC News
The Columbia Icefields on the boundary of Banff and Jasper National Parks in the Canadian Rockies.

This was to be the perfect "get-away" from my more routine "mountain" experiences with U.S. forces in the remote, arid ridges separating Afghanistan and Pakistan. But another kind of war – the one on the environment – has taken a serious toll here as well.

A pilgrimage to see the glaciers
Unlike most glaciers, these were accessible by road. My family (of 14, with in-laws, nieces and nephews) piled into the specially adapted, high-torque "snow-bus" and drove from the well-appointed terminal – half way between the Canadian Rockies towns of Banff and Jasper – to the edge of the Athabasca glacier, the largest within the icefield.

Jim Maceda / NBC News
The “headwall” of the Athabasca glacier in the Columbia Icefields of the Canadian Rockies.

The drive was pleasant – at 10 mph it took about 20 minutes – and offered wonderful photo-ops of the glacier, as well as the stark, treeless valley between the bus terminal and the glacier’s edge. 

As we drove – and gazed – we learned why it was all so stark and treeless. "What we just drove over used to be part of the glacier," explained our 22-year-old driver and guide, Jamie Bosom, who grew up near the icefield. "But you can see for yourself what has happened. This glacier, one of the world’s largest, is melting FAST."

Very fast. Thirty years ago my brother-in-law says it took only several steps to WALK to the glacier’s edge. Now we had to take a bus ride.

Jim Maceda / NBC News
A view of the receding Athbasca glacier in the Columbia Icefields.

And, despite Canada’s signing of the Kyoto protocols on climate control, and general acceptance of the threat of global warming by most Canadians, the Athabasca continues to recede some 50 feet a year (as do its sister glaciers in Glacier National Park in Montana, just over the border, which scientists say will disappear by 2070 at the current rate of retreat.)

Cold hard facts
Bosom drove home these cold facts, it turned out, to make a larger point. "Ladies and gentlemen, this is not just about the loss of a beautiful work of nature." He went on to explain that the glacier complex is part of a "triple continental divide," with its melted waters flowing into three oceans – the Pacific, Atlantic and Arctic – providing a source of pure, natural water to hundreds of thousands along the way.

Also, some 13 hydroelectric dams built along the glacial rivers since the 1950’s account for a quarter of British Columbia’s electricity. In fact, the Canadian government even sells a surplus of that power to Los Angeles, Calif. So, as the glacier recedes, there will be less water and less power, not only for Canadians, but for Americans as well. A delightful detour on our excursion through the Canadian Rockies had suddenly taken a more sobering turn.

Jim Maceda / NBC News
The Athabasca glacier is receding at a rate of approximately 50 feet per year.

Of course, it didn’t ruin our day; we romped, gingerly, on the still massive glacier, peered into deep milky crevasses and took too many family photos along the way.  

Bosom himself put the meltdown into context, explaining that the glacier had been in a "receding" phase for centuries. And he let us draw our own conclusions about the connection between the 2 degrees Fahrenheit increase since 1907, the 40 percent increase in CO2 emissions, and this majestic wonder disappearing before our very eyes.

He wasn’t insistent, or on any pro-active Greenpeace mission. He wasn’t looking for donations or selling membership cards. This articulate young man, who grew up on the glaciers, was clearly losing a chunk of himself. And he wanted to share that with any "customers" who would listen. Who would think hard about what they had seen. And what his great-grandchildren may never get to witness.

It was a special – unexpected – bonus to an amazing spring break.

Jim Maceda is an NBC News correspondent based in London. He just returned from a vacation in the Canadian Rockies.

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so what exactly is the perspective relative to the centuries of the receding phase? how many feet a year has it historically been receding?
As well known as the Glaciers are in the Canadian Rockies, they are still awe inspiring despite being taken for granted. This in no eiffel tower, statue of liberty or pyramids in Egypt. I can assure you its much better than that and a lot fewer tourist to my surprise.
While I don't doubt we are experiencing some warming I DO doubt that man is causing it.There have been many ice ages along with global warmings long before man came on the scene. Man only contributes 15% of the green house gases that eco nuts are concerned about anyway. The other 85% comes from the oceans! Glaciers come and go. While I support clean air and water I don't think us common folks should move back into grass huts and ride bicycles while Gore,Clinton,Edwards, Pelosi's,Cloony's,ect live in multiple HUGE homes and travel in private jets! This reminds me of the old Soviet Union where every one was supposed to be equal but the elites live high class lives while the masses lived in small concrete block apartments,rode antiquated buses and stood in line for toilet paper. Joe
perhaps this doesn't make sense but isn't their some way we could capture some of the water resulting from the ice melting away. I don't know, save it as a fresh water reserve or something? I think we should try to slow global warming but if things are already melting, couldn't we make some good out of it until we're able to reverse the trend, provided we can reverse it?
Did the young guide lamenting global warming and the melting of the glacier drive the tourists in an electric bus or a big old stinky "fossil fuel burner"? So he was part of the global problem...
I'm confused about your point. Yes, the glaciers are receding. This is natural; glaciers have been growing and shrinking since the planet was formed. Humans have a problem because natural changes that affect the environment, like solar radiation variation, can take place over centuries or millenia, but we can only see it one day at a time. You hint that this is our fault, with references to Kyoto and CO2 emissions, yet this man did not say so. The real point appears to be that since the guide did not give you the desired statements you had to put them in yourself.
I was in Canada over a year ago and do appreciate the beauty of nature and what the ice can provide us. Is is possible to take the top CEOs of the world, bus them up there, and let them see that their companies need to take immediate action. The manufacturing of autos, glass, plastics, and other commodities can take a lead. We only buy soda in cans because it's sold that way, I don't care what they say about public demand. Sometimes people can make decisions for themselves or do not have all the evidence or resources to do so.
I believe that the planet Earth is a living organism that is cyclic in nature. The planet has periods of high concentrations of ice ie: "The Ice Age" and periods of raising oceans. Human beings are insignificant compared to the planet as a whole. We may speed up the cyle of raising ocean waters by our consumpion of fossil fuels, but we are not going to change the planet's cycle of ice and water. If people are worried about saving the planet, they should worry about the increasing population of the human race as a whole. Just replace yourself and your significant other or adopt if you would like a large family. Karen Bramlett, Special Education Teacher
how can melting ice produce less and less water ???would not the reverse be more in line ?? with the production of more water ?? and if it has been receding for centuries how is it not a natural occurance ?? or do we just want to take the blame for a natural cycle ?? I am realy starting to believe that this has become a new way of selling snake oil. I would be more inclined to believe it if the major player did not own a CARBON OFFSET COMPANY THAT PROFITS FROM SELLING THE IDEA.this is starting to look like a hoax and the players are using their contacts in the government to pull it off.Or is it distraction from the more pressing problems that we as a nation face ?? JUST A FEW QUESTIONS I HAVE.
Your article is interesting but incomplete. How do you plan to change your lifestyle to lessen your contribution to global warming?
Typical logic of politicians. If the current rate of global warming and illegal immigration continues the U.S. will be a 3rd world desert and Canada will be the worlds bread basket. The U.S. opposes Kyoto, yes it would be an economic disaster for the multinational oil companies if the U.S. was economically and militarily secure with it's own sustainable energy. Heaven forbid we would pledge allegiance to the Republic rather than George Bush and Standard oil. Is global warming due to greenhouse gas emissions true? Well one things for sure it helps no one but the oil industry, defense contractors and their hand picked dictators to ignore the issue.
The average time period between Ice Ages is about 100,000 years. Most of North Ameraica was covered by ice 14,000 - 15,000 years ago. I think it only makes sence to say that we should expect to see warming for the next 30,000 - 40,000 years ? Man will never really understand the proccess if we don't ever want to pay attention to the facts !
I have visited the Canadian Rockies and this spectacular Glacier.Though man has tampered with the earth and has destroyed a great deal of it's natural wonders, the ebb and flow of glaciers is a natural part of nature, just as our southwest was once under ocean and you can find shells in the dessert today.
Here's a little less political perspective. We're in the midst of a drought in Florida. Lake Okeechobee has dropped to the point that amazing (and some surprising) artifacts that were underwater are being exposed. Wonder if something similar will happen here as the glaciers recede too. BTW-I must be too much of a hockey fan; when I saw the headline "Great Canadian Meltdown" I thought I'd be reading about Ottawa's performance in the Stanley Cup Finals!
I love all the "facts" being cited here. Give me one issue where the facts are straight. Whatever is causing it, it's real. No matter if you hate Al Gore or not. Your believing what caused it won't change it one whit. The question is what to do about it. Just do your share. Learn more, and if we have time do more. As far as ice producing less water, when the ice is gone so is the water...duh.
Karen Bramlet is a teacher? No wonder the U.S. educational system ranks pretty low on the world stage. Yes the world goes through cycles. We have proved that. But here is the problem. When analyzing ice back 10's of millions of years ( the ice captures the atmosphere and preserves it.) never have co2 levels been anywhere near where they are now. What will the consequences be, well I DO NOT KNOW! What I can tell you is that YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW! No matter what happens the planet will survive, but billions of humans may not. Wars, famine, genocide will occur in the next 100 years possibly leading to the extinction of man, not the end of the world. If mankind decides that we deserve to go through another dark age we have no one to blame but ourselves. If we decide to let the oil companies, auto manufacturers, utility companies, and politicians decide to do the wrong thing in our names so be it, OR YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION TO CHANGE! The fact that American's like myself still choose to beleive the pre-packaged B.S. that we are fed is our fault. And every skeptic who reads this and disagrees has one great advantage in disagreeing. YOU WILL NOT BE HERE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES! You will probably already be dead before anything truly catastrophic happens. The real question is how much do we love our children. I don't really think we do.
Visiting the icefields in the 70's and then again in 2004, 30 years later, you can see a stark difference in the size of the galcier. This is proof of global warming.
Clearly, the net effect of global warming is apparent. Continued denial that people on the planet have anything to do with is dangerous thinking. Recent surveys indicate that a vast majority of scientist clearly believe human activity has a significant effect on the global warming. Just the overall increase in the world population alone and the related human activity is negatively impacting freah water supplies, rainforests and co2 emissions. Population control and attempts reduce activities which have an overall impact on global warming is imperative.
I guess the hundreds of years of receding the glaciers have already done is also somehow George Bush's/oil companies'/the U.S.'s fault as well. The biggest problem with Enviro-fascist "logic" is the rush to jump to conclusions which support their agenda, but which are supported by nothing.
I am so enthused that there are common sense statements being made on this comment column. It appears that most of you haven't let the loonies highjack this natural phenomena and make it a political issue!!!!
I,just think ,that e need to think more about our children. and educate them better for the future.
It would be reasonable to say that we are a greedy, wasteful and ignorant society. We are unwilling to buy SMALLER gas efficient automobiles--most homes have at least 2 SUV's in the driveway, and for what purpose? Heaven forbid that those on bus routes should ever ride one of those nasty things. How much more carbon and carbon monoxide is being pumped into the atmosphere in 2007? I am sure thousands of tons more than would have been filling the air 50 years ago. And people say global warming is not our fault? If the glaciers all melt and raise the level of the sea as predicted in that event, well, then, I guess those along the coast of California, Florida and New York figure they will only have less beach front. And New Orleans will no longer be a port, but a cesspool of buried homes. We may even see the Statue of Liberty with water up to her feet and Manhattan will be a pimple in the sea. And if all the glaciers do melt into the sea, and no longer feed fresh water lakes and streams, I guess people can just figure a way to desalinize the oceans, and water their gardens and farms with bottled water from their own desalinization units. No more turning on the tap, folks. There will be little, if anything, ,there. Nice prospect, huh? What people refuse to accept is that even though the growth and decline of glaciers may be cyclical, the decline is NOW and at a more rapid rate than ever before. That means there may be no recovery period before they are all gone. And THAT is our fault.
I believe our emmissions are definitely contributing to global warming, whether it's the ice melting, polluted air and water, hurricanes, etc.... What we are burning and putting in the atmosphere is harmfull to many living things including ourselves. I still feel for all people and animals that are effected by this, natural or un-natural process. If we can help to reduce emmissions and it's effects... why not?
I do not buy into the whole man is causing the global warming, I do agree the whole thing is a joke and a hoax! Many scientists have tried to point out the facts supporting the warming and cooling trends as having happened historically and being completly normal. We as a country have more serious issues to be dealing with and this is a waste of our time and frankly our money.
I agree with Karen. Over-population will cause far more serious problems in the next 50 years than global warming will. In this country alone, look at all the unwanted children being born everyday. And we're supposedly an 'enlightened' society! Of course, if anti-abortionists would put their money where their mouths are and adopt the children they supposedly save from a fate worse that an orphenage (although I can't see how that could be possible), that might help some. Look at China. They have population control factors in place, and their numbers are still rising exponentially. We've been tracking global warming information for less than a century and we have scientist making WAGs about the future on incomplete and sometimes downright misleading information. Al Gore, one the world's biggest independent consumers of energy with his houses, vehicles, and private jet, hasn't got a clue about how to solve any of the world's problems, yet people are listening to him mumble about global warming. Get a clue Al, you're part of the problem, not the solution. We need to generate less trash (how many tons of methane do you suppose goes into our atmosphere everyday from land fills?). We do need to find an alternative to fossil fuels, there's no doubt about that. But the reasons are because other countries literally hold us over the barrel, plus they are a limited source of energy that will eventually run out.
The evidence is all around us. GLOBAL WARMING IS THREATENING THE WORLD MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY! It's definitely man made, not just another cycle of nature and the rate of change may accelerate unless we act boldly to limit the pollution that is causing it. 120 DEGREE TEMPERATURES COULD BE IN OUR NEAR FUTURE, AND RISING TIDES COULD FLOOD MOST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD.
Never fails, as soon as some politician starts talking about Global Warming the radical left (including Canada) will run with it. It's as if they were given a new toy as a child will act. If the Canadian glaciers are melting, so what, there's nothing that you or I can do about it. Your radical"gonna save the world" groups need to get a life and use their time doing something besides whining. Personally, if the entire country (Canada) melted and floated over to Russia I wouldn't give a damn. Never had any use for the place anyway!
Global warming and cooling are facts of the planet and have set cycles which our overpopulation and high production of CO2 may have accellerated or even retarded. The geologic cycle is closer to about 5000 years for the glaciers to advance and then retreat so even though we may have sped the process, this is a natural mechanism.
Joe you are right on Buddy. Alter my lifestyle? Get real, Joe is right in the impact humans have on all this, even with our gaseous emissions of whatever type. The earth's collective output, volcanoes, oceans, lakes in Africa turning over and dumping millions of metric tons of co2, wiping out 2500 square miles of every living thing, do way more than the human populace.And that's not even getting close to what even the termites, which by the way constitute one of the most numerous inhabitants on this planet,contribute in their fart laden emissions. Get real you eco-freaks, go lay your guilt trip elsewhere, I'm not having any of it.
Global warming is real it would happen with or without man ,what we have done is speed up the process.I hear all the writers tv personalites and congressmen talk and talk but no one is doing anythig because what country wants to go in reverse? China is growing they want their turn at bat the U S wants more and more,Europe the rest of asia and so on. Even if we could agree on a plan it would only slow it down,besides who wants to stop first?
i have to agree with curtis....to bad these events were never documented....maybe next ice age...at least the bush admin finaly fired its anti-warming scientists and acknowledged there is a problem...its a step at least
No one disputes the cyclical nature of warming and cooling that the Earth has experienced. What people seem to ignore, or don't wish to face, is the RATE at which we are now experiencing warming. Ice core samples show the increased rate and intensity of warming, aligned with the rise of the Industrial Age and increased emissions. We can never prove, beyond a reasonalbe doubt, that man is directly contributing to global warming, but the evidence is there, if one wants to analyze it dispassionately. Even if we are not contributing, what is wrong with switching to sustainable, non-polluting energy sources, whether other nations follow our lead or not? Cleaner air and water would follow, and we would not have to be dependent on unreliable sources of foreign oil. This is a no-brainer - - Even if we are wrong and do something now, we win. If we are right about global warming, we still win.
Actually clenny, the melt from the Columbia Icefield doesn't completely go to waste - it feeds a number of large rivers in Alberta and British Columbia, which in turn supply a large part of Western Canada's water supply.
Actually it has been receding for much more than 30 years, more like 10,000 years since the last ice age when they covered the great lakes, which the glaciers created, and reached Pittsburgh. If you were so concerned about CO2 production and think it causes gloabl warming, why were you riding in a bus to see the glacier and creating CO2? If you were serious you would have hiked it.
I guess population growth is a political "hot potato", it is hardly ever mentioned as a contributing factor or limits as a partial solution. Another factor is the proliferation of MacMansions all over the west. A 5000 sq ft house takes a lot of natural resources and emits a lot of CO2 to construct, furnish, warm, cool, and clean. Judie, Arizona
It is obvious from some of the comments that Texas doe not want to give up its position at the top of the harmful emissions problem.
If it's the man that's causing or not the global warming, doesn't really matters. What matters is the fact that the warming is real, and if we're not supposed to do anything now because isn't our fault (what I doubt), then the only thing to do is to sit and wait for the END. Think a little and help anyway you can.
Your snide little references, infering that somehow man is capable of or responsible for a completely natural part of a cycle of nature would make me laugh if so many stupid people weren't falling for it. How typically arrogant of man to think that he could have such a large impact on a planet. Our air is the cleanest it's ever been in our history. Even the greenies admit as much, but they want more! They want to control your life with fear and misinformation, now that the ignorant, uneducated, superstitious masses can't be controlled with religion as in the past. Global warming is the new tool of control, and if you speak out against it, you are demonized. Why should man feel guilty for trying to make his life more comfortable on earth? I'm all for cleaner air and more efficiancy, but not at the cost of freedom and returning to stone age living conditions.
No big deal, all it means is that in a few years, Canada will go from being a frozen communist hellhole, to being just a communist hellhole.
I happen to agree with Curtis Riess, cold followed by a warming trend is a natural cycle. Look at the seasons we go through on a yearly baisis. Is it so outragious to asume that the planet might head back to what it was when the dinosaurs roamed the earth before heading back to a cold spell once more? I agree we need to use our resources more efectivly and i agree this is a much more pleasant place not smelling veichle exaust in my clothing when I get home from work, but are we as humans so big headed as to believe that our actions have any more than a limited efect on somthing so grand and powerful as our planet? Personaly, I think not. Better gas milage is a great, but at what cost.
I can't believe how many people think that heightened levels of CO2 in the atmosphere leading to higher temperatures cannot be (industrially active) mankind's fault, or problem to solve. The carbon bearing fossil fuels burned in the last hundred or so years took millions of years to form. Trees took in CO2 and gave out O2 keeping the C in them. The trees died, more trees grew, died and fell on top and gradually coal and oil were formed (over millions of years). We take the oil, with its C content, add O2 from the atmosphere and release CO2, and a sizable proportion of it has happened in (geological terms) a blink of an eye, over the last hundred years. We should be working to reduce CO2 emissions; failure to do so will result in catastrophic climate change.
This is just another load of crap from the environmental lobby to keep their coffers full. The glaciers do this every single year! It's called the spring thaw dammit! So some kid who's still wet behind the ears starts rattling on about how this is an example of this that and the other thing; take it for what it is. Hardly anybody goes to the Columbia Icefields for entertainment. If this guy can bus a few more deluded gawkers by telling them that this is Al Gore's nightmare in motion, then like Al, he's got a few more bucks. Mike Moran Burnaby, B.C.
Thank you all for your wonderfully intelligent responses. I too find it incredible to think that we, as humans, can accept either the blame for naturally cyclic events, such as global warming, anymore than we could take credit for the coming, inevitable ice age. The earth is a mechanism far beyond our puny control. It's time we stopped trying to destroy the nation's economy, under misguided policies such as the so-called Kyoto treaty, and started trying to live in harmony. Here's an interesting fact. I don't remember the exact numbers, so don't quote me. I remember reading recently that the earth's volcanoes spew far more greenhouse gasses, in one day, than are produced by man in a full year. How shall we take care of that far greater problem? Perhaps we can devise huge plugs to place in the craters of Rainier, Hood, Mammoth Lakes and all the other volcanos which are preparing to blow in the next few dozen years!
Has anyone heard of evaporation????? We aren't just losing this ice to melting so there isn't any way to harness the water resulting because most of it isn't. Ice ages may be cyclic but WAKE UP everyone and do something because personally my grandchilren deserve better and I plan on doing what I can....did you know if all of us just changed our light bulbs to energy saving ones it would be a HUGE impact? Get your minds opened up and read about it and do something. PLEASE
As a science teacher one of my main jobs is simply to dispel the misconceptions my students have about how things really work. The same is true of the general audience for an article such as this. The probability that human activities are changing the atmosphere such that average worldwide temperatures are rising is very very high. Also, and more alarmingly, the rate of change is greater than any natural process we are familiar with. Although this is a complicated subject, the average person can, and should, understand it correctly. The science, if not the politics, in Al Gore's book and movie is reasonably accurate. Read, listen, watch, and think!
A previous reader comment stating that "Man only contributes 15% of the greenhouse gases..." highlights a common flaw in the general publics perception of mankinds ability to impact the global environment. Small changes that alter the balance of a dynamically equilibrated system (such as our global ecosystem/environment) may not have any percievable impact on short time scales. But over time they can give rise to global climate shifts that appear quite disproportionate to the actual "small" changes themselves. An analogie to help illustrate and drive home the point: Consider a family whose income balances their spending. Shopping habits fluctuate (are dynamic) so some months they're a little short, but other months they have extra so that over the course of a year their finances are stable (in equilibrium). Now someone in the family picks up a drug habit(fossil fuels) and starts siphoning off 15% of their income. This might well go unnoticed, particulary in those months of "extra." But at the end of the year, they'll have a -15% income balance. As this continues, this trivial 15% change will become increasingly apparent in its effects on the overall family finances. Now, the question is...does the family act responsibly and take care of its problems by kicking the drug habit and perhaps managing its finances alittle better? Or do they pretend there isn't a problem, and then act shocked when their house is foreclosed and they can no longer count on a regular meal? (I know, I know....we'll quit after just ONE more fix, er...fill up I mean.)
I brought my family to athabasca 11 years ago. It was one of the most inspiring places I have visited. I tried to put into context with my many other visits to other countries around the world. It was uneique. No other place had brought my attention to such a standstill as had this place. It is a shame that one day due to us, it will be gone and not available to my grandchildren. I know that speaking out and being active is the thing to do, but, without the complete and utter support of our combined governments, nothing will be done to counteract global warming. Go and visit this place before it's gone!
C. Johansen, you do realize that the energy saving light bulbs contain Mercury. So, essentially, CO2 in the air is being exchanged for Mercury in the land fills. There is such a misconception out there about the energy saving light bulbs. This fact should be advertised more often so that it can become common knowledge.
The experts who raised the alarm about global warming are not environmental activists. They are climatologists, scientists who have spent decades gathering data about earth's cimate. An overwhelming majority of them are convinced that global warming is happening and that human activity is the driving force behind it. No one who has posted to this discussion so far is qualified to dispute those findings. Reading a few books about prehistory doesn't make you an expert on climate, no more than reading a couple of books about surgical techniques qualifies you to perform brain surgery (if you think it does, keep your scalpel away from me!). I have studied just enough science to know when to listen to those who are wiser and more knowledgeable than I.
As I read the reasponses to the article I am amazed at how un educated most of the people are about the global warming problem. People want to hide behind the fact that there has always been a natural cycle of cold and hot trends on the earth. This is true but only so far, the real deal folks is that we know how hot and how cold those trends were in the past. what we are facing now is different. There is no government conspiracy to make us go back to the stone age way of living, our government isn't even trying very hard to stop the rise in temperature and emissions, Europe is. President Bush refused to sighn the deal with the other world leaders today to cut emmissions. So no, there is no conspiracy. The truth and fact is thousands of Scientists released their findings within the last year showing that our planet's rise in carbon dioxide is so much more than it ever has been before and all in the last 30 years that it has to be from us. I sugest that everyone who doesn't understand go and pick up a college level Biology book. maybe if the science programs in our schools were better there would be more people that understood just how bad the situation is. If the glaciers melt, the oceans go up and all of us will be scrunched up on the land with less space to live on. the oceans will change because they need a balence of salt and other things in the water or the life in the water will die. That means less food for us too. less space to grow food on land too. Less plants on dry land means there are less plants breathing in carbons and breating out the oxygen we need as humans to breath. If there is too much carbon released into the air, oxygen bonds to it, two pieces of oxygen to one piece of pure carbon. They atract each other. Thats what C02 is. We can't breath it. Neither can any of the animals on the planet. we need a mixture of Oxygen and other gasses to survive. The more carbon we put up in the air, the less breathable oxygen there is. The higher the temperature, the more plants and animals and fish die because they were not built to survive in a world with less food, less breathable air, less plants to clean the bad stuff out of the air, then what do our overpopulated buts do huh? Yes I think this young man cares for the world and wasn't pushing a benifit for himself other than the hope that the rest of us wont be stupid and selfish and mess it up forever. There are many problems in the world that need attention, but we have to have a world to live in first and formost. There has always been poor people, always been war, and sickness. But we cannot make a new planet to live on so we need to make sure we don't make this one a place humans cant live on anymore.


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