Yea i read about tiananman square quite a few times within the past few months. That is an atrocity and I cant believe those people never just wiped their own government out on their own. I remember also something not mentioned by this article. Tank man is all he is known by and for all those who wanna read something interesting google tiananmen square and tank man......funny tho.....you wont find it on any search engine in China......why u may ask?......cause it would give those people hope and pride to keep fighting.

This article was extremely powerful. I really appreciate this little piece of China. Hopefully one day her wish will come true. Thank you.

This is a timely article...and hints loudly at what I found, in visiting China, to be the suppressed longing of the Chinese: to express their dismay over the massacre and to express their passionate longing for Democracy...and religious freedom, most of all. If the Chinese government were wise, they would allow freedom of expression...because then China truly would be the world's most powerful nation...and, of course, in the best possible way. The Chinese are so deeply and unusually committed to ideals...which amazed me and, at the same time, made me realize that this is, or could be, the REAL power of China, along with all their brilliance in other endeavors. If China ever allows for freedom of expression, they will have the full support of their populace, and they will be the tour de force of the universe! It is only to their detriment to keep repressing the irrepressible. It will, I think, be their eventual downfall. Afterall, I found the "common people" of China are anything but common.

This sounds very much like how the press is being manipulated here in this country

She's not bold - she's stupid. But the world needs stupid people from time to time. What I really like about this article is to read how the pervasive snooping technolgies are being turned against the oppressive governments, quite the opposite of that predicted by Orwell.

Not only is this chemical nation problem for those who reside there it is equally a problem for the rest of the world as these chemicals make their way into foods, supplements, and just about everything else that absorbs the toxins imported to the US and other countries. It's not safe to import from China any more - half way around the world people are developing liver cancer due to toxins mixed into imported supplements - it's a disease on the rise in the US.

So touching, and I thank the nameless young woman for reaching out to tell US not to forget what happened and why. May she and hopefully others keep the spirit of that ill-fated time in China. May WE not forget our own history, and thank those who are still on this earth to thank for our freedom.

I thought this was a good article. I remember when a protesting student was crushed with a tank at Tiananmen Square. I think the students that protested against the Chinese government were brave and should be remembered. These kids forfeited their lives just for having differnt ideas. China should feel shame on this anniversary.

I have been visiting China on business for 10 years and have many friends there. I once showed a picture of the student facing down the tanks in Tiannamen Square to friend and she had never seen it, nor knew anything about it. This is a college educated professional who deals with foriegners everyday. When I tried to give her the web address, she could not access the site. As Americans, we could do a better job of spreading the word about the advantages of freedom both during a protest and more importantly, after the protest has been crushed. Other friends there are willing to discuss politics of China, but are noticeably careful of who is in ear shot. When I show them thiongs like jibjab.com and Kieth Olberman lambasting Bush they cannot believe our government would allow such ridicule and attacks. It leads one to wonder what China would be if, Like George Washington, Mao had won the revolution and then turned the armies over to the people. Would the cold war ever have occurred? The good news is that for the first time in history, the common person in China is starting to get a taste of freedom and it is very difficult to take that away from a billion plus freedom starved people. Let's keep the doors open for them!

The people of the world who witnessed the protest and it's aftermath will never forget.

I am not an appologist for China, and do agree that the events of 18 years ago could well have been handled differently, further that there is little that a Westerner would recgonize as Freedom of Expression in todays China. However, China has a lot at stake, they must deliver a modern economey or face what could very well be starvation - their history of a revolt every 50 years and purges in between is only too well know to them; it is in this context, that the more brutal actions of the Chinese State must be understood. If they deliver on their economic Industrial Revolution, then other things (environment, civil liberty) will eventually fall in place - If they fail then anarchy will be the result.

I had a business partner and personal friend that lived just down from the square. She was around 60 years old then. Because she was Chinese, had a dual citizenship (US and PRC), had intellectual friends at the university and with the unrest, etc., she felt it necessary to leave Beijing, and go to the US. As the government’s crackdown began, it was impossible to get around except by foot or bicycle. She rode on the back of a bicycle, in great peril, in and out of Beijing streets, evading the solders. She could hear the sounds of tanks, screams, and gunshots; it was hard to see. From a near by town, she took a car several hundred miles and flew out of China. It took nearly a week; she left with only a handful of belongings. The square offered such high hopes for the future. Their dreams were tragically dispelled

What an incredibly sad story. I was there just a few weeks before June 4th in 1989. I saw the very first demonstration occur. We were on our way out of Bejing because we knew how dangerous it was to stay. Our taxi's were stopped at a main intersection because the demonstrators were crossing the street in front of us. It took over 15 minutes - later we found out there were over 100,000 people in Tiananmen Square that day. After we returned to the US, we saw what happened to those beautiful, brave people. I often wonder even now, how many of the people I met on that trip didn't survive June 4th, 1989.

Today is my birthday. I have lots of great memories and one very sad one in 54 years on this earth. I always think of China and the very brave people. May the world never forget the events of June 4, 1989. I never will.

What is amazing is that I saw the massacre on TV, as did many others. How then can MINITRUE-( see 1984) pretend that something I saw on TV didn't happen? But, this is just water under the drawbridge... as a Viet Vet, I'm convinced that my buddies and I were set up to take the fall, by every HATE group you can mention, including the "devil's own,nathan bedford forrest's triple k (not to be confused with the "Triple R"- Ridin' Ropin' and Readin' ole comic books!),who while raising student protests that only the Police( they're not pigs,they're the dogs of the pigs- see Animal Farm)and the poor, confused National Guard( which was also manipulated during the "reign of terror" to man "Madame La Guiotin") were in it... both pro and anti war protesters were used by MINITRUE to force anti-communist Richard M. Nixon, (now replaced as most despised president with the President, replacing Herbert Hoover in the Democrat's hatelist... "of course they hate Republicans, they're Democrats!" my Dad), to negotiate a treaty-breaking deal against our former allies- FREE CHINA-Tawain out of the UN and this bunch of thugs into power! Orwell warned you, Don't trust the press, the protestors, the so-called "Underground", your friends, neighbors, or any body else- Big Brother is watching you! "every Step You take"-Police,"Hello Mr. Blue"-Tom Paxton,"the marching Song of the Zombie Army" jim bell) So, Love Big Bro? NO! 2+2=5? NO! War Is Peace? NO! IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE? NO! FREEDOM IS SLAVERY? NO! LOVE IS HATE? NO! Winston Smith is asked if he believes in GOD, his nswer is no... As long as one person Does... not the world, not the churches, not those who say they believe... but those who feel, somewhere deep inside their being- (see Moody Blues- A Question) "I am much more than a story bookplot Or a Roachback leaky pen's inkblot But, am an Adam/ATOM with a Nucleus of GOD!- C-1959 NMPub SokosOmosI- you CAN change the world! C- 1992 NMpub Let me be, WHAT I truely wish to be Let me SEE, anything that I wish to SEE Let me go anywhere, I WILL be FREE! Sokosomosi...SokosOmosI...sOKOSoMOSi... SOKOSOMOSI! c-2007 jtmcpub... And, again, thank you for your support! "WHAT is between the LAMB and the LAW... that is NOT a question"... the ice cream koans C- 2007 jtmcpub the combination secret that opens ALL doors- (Eric Clapton, Blind Faith) 5n53f WHERE is the ROman Road? AsK everyone you meet, until you Find the answer maranatha, au Revoir, Justice, Through Strength and Courage, SQ290505 The Step, the token, the sign and the word of emulation At all points of the triangle, if you're cross, you can be rosy, watch Mothra! anothen st. james, the lesser (of 2 weevils)

Good for this teenager, glad to hear that citizens of Hong Kong will keep this tiny flame alive even though China has quashed it. I think it's hypocritical of China to deny this ugly chapter of their histroy meanwhile trying to get the world to acknowledge the Massacre at Nanking. Only difference between the 2 events is that no rape was committed and that this one was perpectuated by the government against its own people. How will China become an economic Giant if they can't get away from its officials getting their grubby hands into everything. And they don't seem to have a problem with trading with Sudan. NO thanks, USA has no use for the $1.99 hand towels that melt in the dryers. Spend the extra $3.00 on the towels from Sri Lanka and they will last 2 years. To them, profit is everything, safety is only secondary. I deal in manufacturing of custom metal products and that crap that's being imported in from China is exactly what it is, 40% real aluminum, 60% garbage fillers.

Here again is the anniversary of a protest so far ahead of its time, as to yet not really be seen for what it was. China has mastered the ability to put a pretty face on horrific actions and once again wants the world to just "get on with business as usual".We in the western world say we value life and liberty more than anybody else, but the actions of a few very brave but naive students shows how untrue this really is. China should be ashamed.

I spent one year studying abroad at BLCU in Northwest Beijing last year. I was surprised that NONE of my Chinese friends knew what the Tiananmon Massacre was. They had never heard of it. Luckily, I was able to get some first hand accounts from my professors, many of whom were there.

Remembering June 4th, 1989: Speech delivered at the fifth anniversary commemoration of the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre (UW-Madison, June 4, 1994) By KC Zhang Fellow compatriots, Friends, So, it has been five years. Five years of campaigning, campaigning for justice for our fallen heroes and heroines. Five years of crusading, crusading for freedom, democracy and human rights in our motherland. And more importantly, five years of reminding, reminding ourselves that our journey is far from over, and that to gather ourselves together to continue the journey, we cannot afford to lose sight of our ultimate goals, and we cannot afford to lose faith in our causes. Again, we are back to refresh our memories, as if our memories ever needed refreshing. Again, we are back to renew our faith in our causes, at a time when faith is becoming increasingly difficult to keep. And again, we are back to say to our fallen heroes and heroines: You have not been forgotten. For those of us who had directly or indirectly witnessed the outrageous acts perpetrated by the Chinese government in and around Tiananmen Square five years ago, we will remember for the rest of our lives the scenes of armored personnel carriers rolling along Chang'an Street into the center of our nation's capital, of troops firing into crowds of peaceful demonstrators, and of pedicabs transporting blood-soaked civilians to hospitals. We will remember the scenes for a long time to come because we were outraged five years ago, and we still are five years later, at the government's irresponsiveness to our demanding for a cleaner government, for a freer society, and for a more democratic political system. We will remember the scenes for a long time to come because we felt violated five years ago, and we still do five years later, by a government that is supposed to be our own, by an army that is supposed to be our protector, not our suppressor. And we will remember the scenes for a long time to come because we have a moral obligation to. To ensure our heroes and heroines did not lay down their tender, youthful, and promising lives in vain, we have to remember what happened in Tiananmen Square this day five years ago. To ensure history shall not repeat the tragedy that occurred five years ago, we have to remember history. And to ensure future generations of our nation will inherit a better China from our generation, we have to remember this day five years ago. And we have to do more. We have to do more than just remembering this day five years ago to bring about a better China as envisioned by our fallen heroes and heroines. We have to do more than just remembering this day five years ago because the Chinese government is not. Quite the contrary, the Chinese government has been doing all it can to distort history, to suppress dissent, and to maintain its totalitarian dictatorship. We have to do more than just remembering this day five years ago because governments in the rest of the world have been yielding to pressures from chambers of commerce in their respective countries, abandoning their policies of urging China to improve its human rights record. We have to do more than just remembering this day five years ago because, after all, China is our China, and if we don't, nobody will; and only if we do, will others who identify with our causes follow. Now, you may ask me: What more could we do than remembering this day five years ago? Well, my fellow compatriots, and yes, my dear friends, the answer lies in your hearts. Search for it. And when you do, you will discover there are many little things you can do to help our causes. Nothing is too little or too insignificant. Start with the easy ones, like refreshing a friend's memory of this day five years ago. Along the way, you will realize you are onto things more tangible and more fruitful, such as influencing a business's operations in China for the good of the human rights situation there, or helping get a political prisoner freed. Yes, it has been five years. And we are still here. We will be here for another five years, ten years, twenty years, if it need be. We are determined to fight for the day when we can say to our fallen heroes and heroines: We have won our battle, and now you may rest in peace.

I have tank mans picture on the wall of my den. I often look at it with amazement thinking that if so much attention had't been drawn ,by the media, those tanks might have ran him down. Think of those tanks when you next go to the polls!

As a foreign expert living in China for a number of years, I have often heard about and discussed this set of events. Everyone here knows of it, and it is a sad day in history. It is more remarkable however that while a number of protesters were suppressed, the massive coverups by the west in comparison stand witness to true global lies. How about Palestine? Or even Waco? The US has no right to enforce "democracy with marines" and prop up governments abroad. The west has no right to endorse "regime changes" around the world in select (i.e., oil rich) countries. Hundreds of thousands, or millions of people have suffered thanks to western policy MUCH more than any Tiananman suppression. We will tally up 'human rights abuses' any day in court the west wishes to bring a tribunal out, whilst whining about Tiananmen, and trot out war criminals such as Kissinger for class A crimes against humanity and genocide!

I spent 2 months in China on a study abroad. I tried to take some pics of the guards at the square and was quickly informed this was not allowed. The square looks very nice and is kept quite clean, but if you stray off just a few blocks you are in absolute poverty. One of my guides, a Chinese student, told me that most young adults hate Chairman Mao and what he did. However, they are not allowed to voice there views on this subject and he tooka great rick talking to me about it.

I'm afraid that most Chinese people today would disagree with the writer and the westernized kid from HongKong. Why? Because they realize, had those students won, China could have been disrupted and fractured and not have suceeded to the extent she has today and moreover would not have the chance to advance to the levels of the advanced western nations, and even to surpass the them! Also if you had a feeling for Chinese history, you would understand the rational behind the Chinese government's decision...to prevent the possiblity of China decending into chaos and back to the poverty, sickness, starvation and darkness of the previous decades! You don't know or care about this. But we the Chinese people do!

A couple of years ago I taught English in Beijing. In my journalism class there was a debate that arose between the students about whether or not they could trust what was printed in the newspapers. One student said that you could not trust the media in China at all and others said it would be impossible for everything that is being printed to be a complete lie. I was quiet for most of the discussion (as we were informed not to incite political discussions or saying anything ill about the government), but at the end I did leave them with one thing: to really think about who owned the media since that can skew the facts and gave them examples of US papers that lean right or left. I hoped that it was enough to really make them think things through. I didn't realize that they completely don't know anything about the square though--and I am glad I didn't bring it up. I wonder how much more they don't know about the world outside.

I do think in a way that that young woman is a hero. If only she understood a bit better what the price of freedom realy is, like our founding fathers, then maybe it would give her the courage to stand up and tell as many people as she could in china all she knows about June 4th, 1984. On another note why can't we just build factories that produce all American goods so we don't have to be poisened by china's lack of environmental care, I mean its not like they are killing our pets or anything, lol. Remeber that true communisim belives that the individual is nothing, all are part of a mass collective.... Perhaps a little old fashind American free speach is just the example people in china can follow to become the great free individuals they so deserve to be, that would truly be the paradigm shift they need.

In 2001 I traveled through Beijing during an around-the-world trip. I was anxious to visit Tiananman Square. About 15 minutes after arriving, I noticed two Chinese women nearby. They looked to be 45 to 55 years of age. I don't know what made me notice them, but as I watched one of them pulled a small red and white banner from her purse. Together, they held the banner with its Chinese characters aloft over their heads. The said nothing. Within seconds two plainclothes police officers arrived on the scene. The women tried to stuff the sign back in a purse and walk off in different directions, but a white minivan quickly arrived, and more plainclothes officers grabbed the women. A larger van drove and skidded to a stop. The two women were thrown, (literally) into the the van. One was slammed into the front passenger seat, and a policeman roughly closed a restraining device over her lap and chest. The women never fought back. They never uttered a word. Minutes later I saw another man running from the police. When they caught him, one said something to him and then hit him in the face. He never fought back. To say that things have changed because of the Olympics or because the economy is better is idiotic. Nothing has changed. To say that revolt would lead to more proverty and even harder times is equally insane. Someday, the proverbial crap is going to hit the fan. It is just a matter of time. The Chinese people are warm and wonderful people. But, they are also like sheep -- toeing the line, and rarely protesting. Of all the cities I have visited -- of the 60 countries I have seen -- China remains the most oppressed and enchained of them all.

I think that it takes a brave person to go and speak agianst their goverment. What happend at Tiananmen Square, was a horrible thing. And it should always be remembered, never should somthing like that be forgoten, an dmore power to the people who have the guts to stand up and say something.

I really admire that young woman. She is a hero. I went to visit Beijing last month and it happened that one of the place I visited was the Tiananmen Square. I asked our tourist guide if she can tell us what happened in Tiananmen square 18 years ago, she just smile. No response. I was surprised that most people there are still afraid to talk about it. I am very greatful that we live in a great country.

People who live in glass houses should not throw rocks. Usually we expect times to get better as time goes on and we think we know better than to repeat mistakes made in the past. However, in 1993, about five years after the Tiananmen Square crackdown, the U.S. Government cracked down on the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas. How did the two compare? The protesters at Tiananmen Square were mostly university students (adults) who were free to participate in the protest, or free to go home when the police warned them to leave. The opposite was true at Waco, on both counts. The Waco incident was whitewashed and covered up. Dissenters were labeled as nuts or worse. The Waco incident was far more dastardly than the Tiananmen Square incident. Look in the mirror America before you start casting rocks.

My wife is Chinese, born and raised in Beijing. Se is a retired english grammar high school teacher. When I have tried to ask her about 1989, she seems to have little knowledge of the occurance. It is truly hard to beleive it, but it was so well swept under the rug, that a person, from Bejing has little or no knowledge of the uprising.

Yeah, lets have a cake stand at Kent State, remember how they shot students there? Lets talk about the two other universities where the US authorities shot protesters in the 60's - 70's. Do you remember the apartment block that was bombed in Philidelphia in the 80's, totally levelled by the US military (using F1-11's out of Mcguire Air Force base NJ)? Of course one persons freedom fighter is anothers terror suspect. Those commie scumbag hippies unlike those noble freedom loving anti war visionaries at Kent State deserved what they got. See what I mean, its the perspective? The American Government rewrites history as much as it rewrites current events, remember the weapons of mass distruction, which have never been found? Lets talk about convenient lies! This is the post orwellian society where they point out the lies of the other side to give you the illusion of freedom. China has a horrific govt but before you take the high moral ground you really ought to look at your own govts and history. Clearly all governments are now self serving and have given up much pretense

How come we trade with China and not Cuba, hiprocrosy?

I have lived in China now for over five years. I have traveled extensively thru out China.I have actually conducted business in 105 cities as of today. I plan on staying in China for as long as I can. I own my home here and I own a business here. People who "visit" China like to make comments about China.Based upon having spent a few weeks or even a few months here. Most of my friends are chinese. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion about what they believe is reality. Americans seem to feel that they can critisize other countries for the things they do , and they can. But just because they express their feelings it does not mean they have any idea of the reality or the truth of what is really going on in other countries. I do not want this to be a slam on the U.S or really anyone else,but after being here for so long on a daily basis. After having seen more of China then almost any foreigner I know , I have come to understand a lot more. Every country does have mistakes in their history. The U.S. has such things as Waco Texas,St Mary's College , the Love Canal , with many many more in the past....not to mention our recent "war on terror" in which we have invaded two countries and according to the U. N. been directly responsible for the deaths of up to 650,000 innocents civilians. So the reality is each country has unique circumstances and unless you are there,involved and see the actual truth ( as in 'Yes there are weapons of mass destruction so we must invade to protect ourselves") the truth of a situation is slanted by the press coverage and the information available. The information available today is presented always in a way that delivers a message that is desired by the presenter.(As in the embedded "press" in the current situation the U.S. is faced with). China is a unique country with a unique set of problems. China has brought more people out of poverty then any country in human history. China graduates more MBA students each year now then any country in the world. China has now created a public education system that they are in the process of emplementing nation wide. China has just created a national medical system (even though it is in it's infancy) that is being deployed as rapidly as possible. China is trying to standarize food safety laws and eliminate corruption on a wide scale . China is on a massive infrastructure building program that is providing jobs nationwide and giving farmers a chance to earn and learn new skills.China has created new laws giving individuals the right to own property , the right to personal freedom. I actually have more personal freedoms in Cina then I had living in the states.(Try that one as a surprise). Yes the system here is not perfect. Yes the system here is different from the U.S. but that does not mean it is not a good systme that works and provides for the rights of it's citizens to persue life,happiness , and personal success. Freedom of religion........you can believe what you read in the foreign press or you can attend the catholic church,the presbetarian church,or Lutheran,or Buddist,or or or or. Yes there are rules concerning certain behavior in this country.But in the US. can you discriminate againest race ,sex,religion,or personal beliefs.......you can not do that here either. Yes there are certain rules of protest againest the government here , but currently in the U.S isn't there an military guy who was not on active duty currently being prosecuted to be dishonorably discharged for being involved in a protest againest the war , in an unmarked uniform(and not a complete uniform)that was peaceful?.......Unless you are here and see the massive changes going on to the benefit of the people, the changes that are being made as rapidly as possible to create the necessary lifestyle to provide for the safety of the citizens. The changes in food laws,in medical laws,in education,in the social welfare system........these are all being changed to the benefit of the people. i am here because I have this country to be nothing like what the outside world believes it is. Surprise surprise surprise........unless you see it for your self what comes in the press is often to benefit the writer....even this article......this is being written by an ex american who has tried to become a Chinese citizen.......not for political reasons...but maybe for that very reason , as I have seen the massive changes being done as rapidly as possible.........and I have watched a country that I used to call home invade two other countries for reasons that were justified by leadership and then found to be false. While statements are made for excuses of why it was done and those are changed almost monthly. With the end result being the same......massive dislocation.....large amounts of civilian deaths ( but because it is sectarian it is not our "fault"), but discounting the daily deaths by our weapons and troops againest the population. When a population feels terror as they look into the lights shining into their eyes from a man holding a gun on them in their own home in the middle of the night as searches are randomly made for "fighters" then who is perceived as the "terrorist". China is not perfect........but I am really tired of people who have only read about china making statements about this country. I was the same before. i said I would never come here before because of what Ibelieved to be the truth. Circumstances changed an I was actually required to come here. Before coming i stupidly said i would come if my safety was guaranteed,I was guaranteed that I could leave when I wanted to leave, and I was given a translator. After i arrived i was treated with more kindness and respect. I can travel in any part of China and I have and never once have I even had a second thought about my safety. This is the most mis-understood country in the world. There are more so called China experts , both for business and politics, that have studied books written by others after they have spent a few months living here or visiting here and that is their knowledge of China. The only way to really know this country is to be in it. Most people can not do that. So they listen to other people that haven't done that either. Just visited a few times a year for business, or gone to the tourist sights and then they say they know China. To bad so many people do not realize that this country changes on a daily basis , in all ways , and continues to change. It is working , and changing. Yes mistakes are always made by everyone. That is a learning process. we learn by doing something , finding out how to do it better and then implementing that process.

I agree. We need to be circumspect about the source of our bowl of rice. We need to be critical about the origin of our resource. China is NOT automatically bad, but we DO need to look closely at where our support comes from. Is it from a regime that oppresses the masses? If YES, then FIGHT for the solution! If no, then work for the solution to the problem.

Every dictatorship in world has one thing in common: pushed for their own existence they will go to any length in brutality and murder. So when you meet an apologist for Chinese government tell them, dictatorships don't do it for people, they do it for themselves. All else is just incidental.

I think people of all times can and do respect raw courage. The man facing down the tank by himself is that for me. Whatever else is going on then or has transpired since, to me, that is the point that he brings home to me... what our forfathers did 200+ years ago...to the cause of freedom they pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor.

Iv'e got to chuckle after reading the comments of most of the Americans - sounds like your govt has dont a pretty good job of brainwashing the commenters through the media, and you dont even know it. Having lived in China for 20 years, Ive spoken with dozens who have participated in demonstrations leading up to Tiananmen - including my wife who took part in the Shanghai equivalent, it was nothing as romantic or glorified as the event is portrayed in the West of a mass swelling of discontentment - the vast majority of students who attended went to play hokey from school, hang out with class mates and get the free lunch boxes provided by the organizers. The average Chinese is so politically naive, susceptable to persuasion, so easily to be led (look at what the masses were fooled into believing and behaving during the cultural revolution), unlike any other nation of people I have ever witnessed. A country has a right to protect its integrity and future - it may be in America's best interests to have China break down and sink into chao - but China would not be on the same path or same point if the govt had not surpressed the upheavels. Call me an apologist, I dont care - my advice would be to educate yourselves, get out of your country more, try to look at the world other than through an americo-centric view.

Being the skeptic that I am, did you ever think that this was an act or maybe someone wanted to know your intentions in the Square???

Jon doe ningbo says we look at things with "Americo- centric eyes. If that pseudo slanderous remark were made about his own country, I have no doubt he wouldnt be seen for quite some time if ever again. you see "john", is ready to advise under the false identity he doesnt even need here in America, and its a sad but obvious holdover from an age that has yet to pass in his own land. We dont care if you want to apologize for what happened that foul day, because regardless of his apology, we saw with our own eyes what REALLY happened, and China has been saying that we are the ones that need a history lesson. maybe Ol'John should teach in Beijing, and that way he wont have to apologize anymore

Like Vietnam, our enemy of old, we have found China far too valuable to Big Business to make much of a fuss about a mere thousand dead. So we let the Chinese authorities censor the internet or use it to crack down on dissidents. And why not? It's good business!

We rewarded China for Tiananmen with hundreds of billions in FDI over the years and untold treasures of tech transfers, including modern military technology. China sells the organs of political dissidents and we give them more, China claims pieces of all of its neighbors' territories and we give them more, China poisons our food and we give them more. Thanks to corporations and our "leaders" in DC for giving Asia, our country and our health to China to molest and destroy.

America is not perfect, we have and will make mistakes.Say anything you want about " THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" BUT remeber this..... Four score and seven years ago our our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation concevied in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition that ... all men are created equal...." not only are we equal in United States but we are free, to come and go, free to buy and sell,free to chose be it good or bad,freedom of speach and the freedom to worship . .... I AM FREE, FREE, FREE AND NOBODY, NOBODY , NOBODY CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME. Thank you for the freedom to write this, Linda

I am really saddened to learn of the hatred that many Americans have for China. I live in China six months per year and have never heard any Chinese express hatred for America, only respect and good feelings. Why? Why? Why do you want to turn them into your enemy when its not necessary?

I completely agree with john doe Ningbo's remarks. American citizens are indeed brain-washed. The latest opinion polls around the world singles out the U.S. as heads-and-shoulders above all other countries for threatening world peace.

if we forget what happened that day in 1989, not only has the world does a severe injustice to who died, it will not change the situation and those deaths will be in completely in vain. Anywhere from 1000-2000+ people died in that warm evening in Beijing. Most who died were not protesters in the square, but Beijing residents who sympathized with the protesters pleading with the army to turn around because they knew exactly what the military was going to do. It's a sad, sad day for not just China and the people, but the world. Our revolution in the US started over a tea tax and subsequent rioting. The Chinese revolution should not end on June 5 1989.

I think it is nice that so many americans express their care for china. But one thing to remember is that china is a nation for the Chinese. Like the states, the current administration is really what American people deserved because the majority of them did not bother to find about the truth (be it WMD in iraq, or the war on terror..) and sent the GREAT bush back to the white house. FOr the chinese, their current goverment is also probably what they deserve. IF they really hated it enough, they would have thrown the goverment out of power like they have done so many times in the history. BTW, American did not "Give" FDI or whatever tech transfer to China as some charity. It is this kind of attitude that created so many confused americans who never understood why iraqis don't really greet us as liberatos. AFter all, didnt' we "GIVE" them candies and a chance of democracy?

For those folks who spoke to Chinese who said they arn't even aware of Tiananmen Square issue in '89 :- I remember watching The Incident on CCTV-1 (a chinese central television station)as it happend. I was 8 years old, and I remember whinging about my favourite kids programme being pulled-off and instead some some boring demostration was shown everyday, plus the infamous 'man infront of the tank' news. I was too young to understand, but I remember it happening. My question is: HOW ON EARTH DID THOSE CHINESE YOU SPOKE TO NOT KNOW? The news were there! Perhaps they were just ignorant? Didn't Care? Too Young? Want to portray a different 'light' to a inquiring Westerner? I don't know, but all I know is they werent glued to TV like I was when I was a kid in China!

Mr. Wolfe from beautiful Utah is a classic example of our 'brainwashing'. It is his fervent hope that the world will 'just get on with it', while he wrings his hands over what the current 'opinion polls' say, and because some goat herder in timbuktu or terrorist nation isnt happy with some of our policies. We should never make deals with the devil, but here in the real world it is sometimes unavoidable. What threatens the world is rogue nations like China that subverts and crushes the will of the PEOPLE. Opinion polls can be and are manipulated. Stay safe in Utah Peter.

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