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A Russian apartment ... but only for Russians

Posted: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:47 PM
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During my recent hunt for a new apartment in Moscow’s astronomically-priced real estate market, I came across postings like this one all the time.

 

“2 room apt. Newly refurbished. All appliances, high-speed internet, quiet courtyard. Central Asians need not apply.” (Or, “No Tajiks.” “No Georgians, No Uzbeks, No one from the Caucasus, Slavic family only, etc.”)

 

But what actually surprised me was the conversation I had with an agent over the phone:

 

“What nationality are you?” she asked.

 

“American.”

 

“No, no. Not your citizenship – what is your nationality? You know, the landlords will want to know.”

 

Regardless of my being American, if my “nationality” (the Russian term for ethnicity) wasn’t a desirable one – say if I was African-American or Asian-American – the landlords may decide not to rent their apartment to me.

 

Rise in crimes against foreigners

Racism and discrimination are not unique to Russia, but the level at which it is acceptably expressed in society is.

 

Russia’s Day of National Solidarity last November saw nationalist rallies in a number of Russian cities, under slogans like “Russia for Russians” organized by the Movement Against Illegal Immigration. Political parties (such as the misnamed Liberal Democratic Party of Russia) openly campaign under promises to give Moscow its “Russian face” back.

 

And as the push for greater nationalism grows, the Russian Interior Ministry recently released figures showing that crimes against foreigners since the beginning of 2007 are already up 22 percent compared to last year.

 

And while Russia has hate-crime laws on the books, people who attack African students or Uzbek laborers are often charged with “hooliganism,” which carries a more lenient sentence than the mandatory ones accompanying hate crimes. I have African friends who have been attacked in the past, and simply won’t set foot on the largely unmonitored metro system.

 

Even steps taken to fight the problem seem to have the opposite effect. The Duma (Russian parliament) is considering a law now that would ban media outlets from mentioning the race, ethnicity, or religion of a suspected criminal or victim in their reporting.

 

The bureaucrats’ logic is that this will fight racism by keeping reports unbiased. But as analysts, journalists, and human-rights activists across the board have pointed out: How can you raise awareness of hate crimes if you can’t even report on the fact that they are taking place?

 

For Russian leaders, cracking down on racism and hate crimes is a balancing act. If they come out defending minorities too strongly, they risk alienating an electorate that clearly leans to the right.

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Russia is sliding on a slippery slope and, of course, they are the ones who will suffer the consequences of their actions.
As wrong as racism is, America has been fighting it for so many more years than Russia that my only surprise is in the surprise of others who don't expect it when traveling. If anything, I would have expected a little research on the region you intend to travel to and then act accordingly to preserve your own safety. For example, I know that white americans are going to be discriminated against socially if going to the middle east so I would accomodate by many different measures, including wearing a head dress to not insult the muslums of the area or study the prayer richuals so again, not to offend any locals I come in contact with. If Russia is attempting to correct the situation by what ever means they deem fit for their country, then who are we to decide if it is right or wrong. Who told america that racism was first ok and then not ok? Our own people, as will their own people.
I was discriminated against when my wife and I looked for our first apartment in Pasadena, CA back in 2004. We called a chinese apartment owner and asked if the APT was still available. She told me "we dont want your kind here!" My kind? My "white" kind? My non-asian kind? My english speaking kind? My not-chinese tax evading kind? Isnt what they said to me discriminatory? Stop bullshitting Russia only a DAILY basis and investigate the problems here in the U.S first.
Why do media outlets and news stations continuously send people out to report on this as if American's are perfect wordly citizens? There are a handful of reasons that half the world's population does not like the United States, and reports like this are just one of them. Russia is Russia. It is not America. Their goverment is more lenient of crimes towards some ethnic groups, so if I was a member of one of those ethnic groups I wouldn't go there. More people in this world need to know where they are not wanted and just stay away from those areas and just let others live how they want to live instead of trying to push your own flawed views upon them.
Well its not like the Russian people have any experience with democracy. When I was there in the 80s the old people were longing for the good ole days unders Stalin, because he kept things organized. People get the government they deserve.
As always Western media tells only half of the truth. There are no landlords in Russia. All apartments are private of the family or person who lives there. Some private people rent their own private apartments. Do you see the difference and how you are spoon fed?
Good for the Russians. They finaly got tired of the mafia criminals and islamic terrorists (Chechens, Azeris...). These thugs from the south have their own countries (from which Russians were ethnicaly cleansed). Now they just invade a country where they don't belong. Fortunately things are changing.
African folks(back in Africa) should treat Russian oil worker the same to make them taste their own medicine....Russian's are ignorant folks and i am not supprised at all.
"If they come out defending minorities too strongly, they risk alienating an electorate that clearly leans to the right" The implication that "right" or conservative political views is also synonymous with overt racism is insulting. The intolerance of an individual towards people different than him or her is seperate from their views on abortion, government spending, foreign aid, or the civil rights vs. security issue. Entirely aside from this, trying to use labels from the US to describe another country's politics leads to misleading and innacurate assumptions. Left, Middle, or Right means different things here than it does elsewhere in the world.
Well i can sort of see the Russian point of view....here in Los Angeles, i might as well be in Mexico City, English is clearly the 2nd language here, and i dont really consider California part of the USA, least not as our founding fathers would define America. Clearly thr Russian people want to keep their country Russian (slavic) under the Russian Orthodox faith. They see what has happened in other parts of Europe, ie Paris, London and Madrid...they probably get Fox and CNN also. I know i see Russia Today every weekend. I have visited Russia and found the country and its people very very nice, alot nicer to Americans than western europe.
Ahh, the electorate doesn't "lean to the right" - that's such a dead giveaway of the author's parochial "Western" focus. Actually, the Russian electorate very much leans to the "left" in economic issues. Russia however has not been stewed in 40 years of American style multiculturalism, or to be more correct, the Soviet version didn't take hold. It is not unusual that there would be more racial or ethnic conciousness in a country that suffered countless invasions and wars with outside actors who were often, but not always, identified as ethnically different. In many respects, it is the American and Western European version of multiculturalism that are a fiction - a fiction rigidly enforced and always at risk beneath the surface. If one wants to test the practical limits of ethnic tolerance, I suggest trying to live in parts of North or West Philadelphia as a non-African American.
Hate crimes, no, but I still think we, as OWNERS of property, should be able to rent to WHO we want, when we want. I own it, I say who goes in there.
I came do Usa from romania 19 years ago . I tried to get a apartment in DAllas ; I was discriminated because I had a kid .
People get the government they deserve? So we deserve Bush? I didn't vote for him and I think I don't deserve this government, as I don't deserve being discriminated by a filipino apartment owner when I was first trying to get an apartment in NYC back in 2000. He said "no asian, no apartment, I SO SORRY MY FRIEND" Talk about the American Dream.
Sounds like my kind of place. Why do whites have to be the only people on earth who aren't allowed to maintain their identity in the face of overwhelming numbers of non-whites? What was the overthrow of Apartheid about if not to exercise the political domination of the majority over the minority? Why should Russia be different? This is one of the most overworked memes of all time. Poor everybody else, always the victim.
So, "racism and hate crimes" on their own are evidence that a populace "clearly leans to the right"? Russia is actually fairly left-wing in many ways, especially by American standards (this was, after all, the Soviet Union not so long ago). Assuming that unpleasant behaviors must imply a political affiliation other than your own is both naive and distasteful.
Why do you call racist people as people who "lean to the right"? Racism has nothing to do with the political inclinations of people, and many political parties that encourage racism also want more government controls on the economical and social life of their countries (aka socialism), which actually makes them clearly leaned to the left.
Older Russians fondly remember Stalin because there was a small measure of the rule of law, awful as it was under the communist system. As one WWII (Great Patriotic War, as they call it) veteran once told me, "Under Stalin, at least the criminals had some fear of being caught and punished. Now there is none. Money is the only law."
I totally agree with what these Russian landlords are doing. And this is not just a recent problem nor, is it specific to Russia. You go anywhere in the USA today ( especially CA-NJ-NY )and English is the second language not the primary. We ( the USA ) better get imigration reform done soon or no one who is caucasian and middle income we be able to do anything without having to speak a non-english language. Worse, you will continue to see racism against those of caucasian decent florish as our country is continuosly over-run by non-white, non-christain, non-english speaking terrorist. I say close the borders (north, south, east, and west) for a min. of 10 years. Maybe then America will be America again..not some has been 3rd rate country on the outside looking in.
As a student of Russian History it is very easy to see the roots of this so called "problem." During the Soviet Era nationalities were seperated and defined to a degree that Americans could not imagine. The Soviet government set up homelands and laws to "protect" the sanctity of different nationalities. The model saw no need for integration, and helped perpetuate the problems Russia faces today. Before we judge we must examine the contextual history of a nation that led to these situations. The shortcomings and ignorant plans by Stalin will affect the future of Russia well into the next century.
This reminds me of how anti-Communists in Russia were described as "liberals" in the American press during the Gorbachev era, and Stalinists were called "right wingers". And of a Thai newspaper ad looking for a "young, good looking female tenant aged 20-25." In many ways there is more freedom of speech in these countries than in America, where a multicultural dictatorship reigns. Thanks to liberals.
SO WHY DO WE ALWAYS HAVE SOME SELF STYLED DO-GOODER GOING TO OTHER COUNTRIES AND CRITICIZING HOW THEY RUN THEIR INTERNAL AFFAIRS. I DON'T GO TO SOMEONE ELSES HOME AND TELL THEM HOW TO RAISE THEIR FAMILY OR RUN THEIR HOUSEHOLD. I DON'T EXPECT ANYONE COMING TO MY HOME AND DOING LIKEWISE
Russians get what they deserve. If they dont want to accept immigrants, their population wil shrink and collapse upon itself. It should look at the Candian example, which is a large country sparse on population. Canada is growing thanks to a rise in immigration who are paying taxes and supporting the general population. As a visible immigrant, I was looking forward to visiting Russia on a tour but after reading reports like this why should I visit a country that won't welcome me.
Personally I think China, India, Japan, most African and Middle Eastern countries could use a little more "diversity" - if you accept that to be a little more than a code word for blacks. Lets open these countries and force them to take boatloads of white people and every other type of person in the world and lets see if they scream. Russia is only an issue because they have *white people* who want to preserve their identity and their ancestral home. No one suggests any of the other homogenous non-white countries are racist or need diversity. Integration is, and always has been, a trojan horse ideology meant to destroy white influence. Its never worked the other way around. Russia is *their* country. Don't go there if they don't like you. Its that simple. Non-Russians have no say whatsoever in what Russians do in their own country.
I've been to Russia three times, and rented an apartment each time. The only racism I found was that when they found out I was an American the price immediately doubled.
Why doesn't this guy complain about Mugabe and how he ran every white person out of Zimbabwe through a campaign of terror? I quote "The only ones who have the moral authority to speak out on Zimbabwe are Africans". No one challenges this man's ideology or actions. Minorities can protect their homelands and identity, Europeans cannot?
If they'd began mentioning natinality of the criminals, everybody wiould see that 50-70% of the crime in regions like Moscow or St. Petersburg is commited by ethnic mafias from Kavkazian or Central Asian regions. Would that help the Yonatan Pomrenze's "noble cause"? Apparently not, it will just fuel up more the local folks' anger on those reach, powerfull, and unreacheable groups like Azeri, Georgians, Tajiks, Chechens, you name it. Compare, those Duma's measures with for example "politically correct" sitcoms like "Law and Order": what you see on TV with what you really see in jails, the real statistics: "wishful thinking", right? That what the Current comparadore and corrupted Duma tries to do: hide its head in sand like an oistrich. Patriots in Russia will do it differently. Come back to home business, actually, I saw a bunch of advertises in Russo-phone papers in California such as "Jews to be applied only", or "I am seeking a Jewish roomate", etc. Was that a man/woman who lives there, or an owner of the appartment/house/area? You can only guess if you are not stupid. So what? Double standards all the way? RUSSOMAHA
Yonatan, what was the first thing they teach you in school? Respect.. Go to africa/south america or a muslim country for an assignment, then talk about democracy/your rights.. Rent your US home to illegal immigrants, and please... you're building a new "wall of China" at the Mexican border.. the rightious one! Did it say "No Americans"?
Not every country in the world sees a positive future in being a "melting pot" When one day in the future Russia is the worlds only nation of white people, & the rest of the world is what we now call "3rd world", they will have won the battle without firing a shot.
Whether you want the right to rent to, or otherwise do business with, anyone is not the issue here. The issue is safety and respect. Societies should not grant the right to abuse or disrespect others based on one's belief of superiority. Like someone or not. Rent to them or not. Be respectful and don't attack anyone who is different BECAUSE they are different.
Having lived in Russia for several years, I feel that the Russians are almost absolutely racist. I never quite understood it, but everyone wanted to be Russian ancestry, etc. because it was status. The recent hate crimes would have gone on before if there were more people to hate. the opening of the country probably has a lot to do with it. In 8 1/2 years I could count the number of Black people I saw on one hand. when I was with my wife on the Metro the first time to Moscow, there were four black students riding on the same car. She says, "There sure are a lot of Black people in Moscow these days." As some body said in a previous comment they will get what they ask for eventually. It's really a shame they have to be like that, but it is definately a hold over from the "old days"
Just wondering, but how many Caucasians (wierldy, "blacks", in Russian vernacular) in Russia proper commit crimes against Slavs? I'd be shocked if the number isn't higher than the number of Slavic crimes against these minorities. Why aren't both equally punished by the law and covered by the media? That said, point taken.
I would say about 90 percent of Russians are living just above poverty line and the rest are super rich. This would make anybody angry, and down right jelious, etc. and definitely contribute to the hate factor. I'm Russian, from Kasahkstan and has been living in US for 11 years (and loving it) and personally wouldn't go back to Russia, not to mention Kasahkstan. And if I were, I would be seen as some sort of traider who apperanly has money (the jelious factor). Bottom line, I don't have a lick of nostalgia anymore and will take American red tape any time over Russian.
I had a taxi driver drive off with my 500 ruble bill without giving change for a 50 ruble fare in St Petersberg. several others that seen this came up and offered a ride free anywhere in the city and stated that all Russians are not like that. Their local "security"(ex KGB) at each business do way more crime solving and fighting than the police. but It starts with the government charging Russians 50 rubles 50 R and foreigners 500r for hematige and another 500r for a camera and a ect. i told my Russian wife if the US did the same % a foreigner would pay over $1500 to visit the grand Canyon. Putin is accelerating westernazation through inflation anti-corruption strategy that allowed russia the same growth (pain) in a decade that took us a century. Mexico is behind Russia in these areas as of now and they've had a couple centuries.
It is certain that in the competition among nations China will be the ultimate winner. Why? They have steadfastly refused to allow the immigration of foreigners. Make a list of all the B.S. they avoid by this simple measure .
"...they risk alienating an electorate that clearly leans to the right." Let's be honest, this isn't a left or right issue, but one of ignorance, stupidity and hate. People of substance reject racism and those who promote it!
I don't see anything wrong with being 'choosy' who you rent your apartment. Tiptoeing around ethnicity issues in the US I think went too far. God forbid you use ‘b’ word. White is fine, but not ‘b’. You can use ‘f’ word occasionally, it is OK as well. But what’s growing in Russia is a bit different. Germany went through that in early-mid 30-s. They (some Russians) ready to stone some Asian migrant just because he is not human, he is ‘churka’ (their unified term for Asians). But not only Asians are bad, Ukrainians are dumb, Jews are kaiks, and Americans are all (?) fat and degenerates. The only (!) developed country in the world is Russia, the fastest developing country in the world is Russia, the richest country in the world … and on and on and on. It is much easier to criticize other dumb, fat, stupid nations that achieved something then quit drinking and smoking non stop and do something. Killing of Uzbek laborer is ‘fun’ because they are like locust – everywhere and they want to keep Russia for Russians, but not one Russian will take their place and will work on the market for 12-14 hours a day, seven days a week, sleep in the same kiosk, use bathroom (bushes around the corner) at night. NEVER!
Freedom of association was one of the freedoms we have lost in the USA while trying to be all things to all people. We still discriminate on the basis of race but you have to lie about it. Open discrimination beats cowardly, hidden discrimination and it is emotionally healthy - it is a natural urge. Like attracts like..
"Regardless of my being American, if my “nationality” (the Russian term for ethnicity) wasn’t a desirable one – say if I was African-American or Asian-American – the landlords may decide not to rent their apartment to me." Why did you point out African-American or Asian-American? Are they in a special privelegded group? You pointing that out reveals to us that you believe that people other than 'White-Americans' are in a special group and needed to be treated as a special class of people. In my opinion that demeans all 'non-White-Americans'!! All people should be treated equal based on their merit... and not given special consideration. YOU ARE DOING THE SAME THING... but in reverse!
The violence is a result of the government's complete lack of enforcement of immigration laws and border security. Russia's immigration laws/policies are, on books, very strict. This is not an immigrant-friendly country, but the system doesn't work all and you have all of the illegal people there.
The hell with the Russians, we have our own problems,,, lets focus our energy on our problems to make life better for our future generations. You don't have to go to the other side of the globe to find discrimination,,, go to any city here in the states and you will find racism.
Same thing happens in Gemany... No Big Deal
Unfortunately, Yonatan, I would probably ask too if I were the Russian interviewing you to rent my apartment. Your last name sounds Georgian (country, not the state) and there's a history associated with that country that is violent. Just because you're an American does not erase your family's origin or the associations of people who've suffered under the violence of people with similar names.
Americans discriminate? Of course they do. Almost every country or society on Earth does in one way or another. But Americans don't show up at the door step of these countries by the masses trying to live there. The Russians and others continually show up on the doorstep of America and Western European countries trying to move in. They should just stay in Russia or where ever else they crawl out from if they hate outsiders and foreigners so much. As far as African, South American and Asian immigrants, they actually work there butts of trying to make it in the countries they go to.
Funny how Russian racism is so hypocritical. Russia colonized over half of the land of Asia, places where "Moscovites" were never present. Maybe Russia should consider giving up their colonized possessions in the far east, maybe consider renaming their ignorantly named "Jew Country" near the border with China. I mean we have people on here thinking that Slavs were "ethnically cleansed" from far east and central asian provinces... the same places where Stalin and the Czars had ethnically cleansed the non-slavs less than a century ago.
Wow! First of all to the so called "White People" Posting on here, White isn't a race, it's a construct. Second you are Euro-Ethnics not white people, American whites operate under the fear of holding onto, or losing skin privelege, because that's all you have, the reason why American Euro ethnics didn't want to give up power ala Slavery, educational rights, housing rights, the freedom to steal land from Native people's. To Jennifer from Ore and JAy from OK, and all the others generous scared citizens, you complain about immigrants stealing and taking and oh stop your whining, now you know how NATIVE AMERICANS FEEL ABOUT YOU!!!!
Fascinating. Many of the posts in here take the conversation back to America. America, where blacks have been discriminated against, even though they been here as long as the whites. Native Americans who had their land taken. And here I read posts of whites saying that the Russians and "white" Americans need to "do something" about immigration or else they will lose their coveted status, their preference, their "rights". Your rights do not include the "right" to take away the rights of others. Russia annexed those territories... You think "Kampuchuea" and the Russian provinces in the far east were somehow historically populated by "Ethnic Russians". Heck no. You can't have it both ways, not here nor in Russia. Whites need to quit their complaining about not always getting things "my way". And accusing non-whites of the same thing "first" is as immature as a 8 year old. Whites never own up to their own problems.
most of your comments Truly are sad , thats why we still have Racism , and like hate it spreads , just look at the comments , shame on you for thinking this was right , Tami
How can you say that racists "lean to the right". Let's see, in America, before the civil rights era, the massive discrimination was mostly evident in the deep south, which history reminds us was almost exclusively Southern Democrats
what a crock - obviously the multiculties haven't invaded Russia yet - Mr. Fernando, I am sure they won't miss your money there - and I am sure that your country of origin isn't exactly egalitarian for non-natives - whatever you're selling - I ain't buying - 56 white American males signed the Declaration of Independence - we were a mighty country long before the multiculties showed up on our shore trying to demean and minimize us...


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