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Baghdad signs of normality still hard to see

Posted: Monday, March 19, 2007 6:33 PM
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Last week several generals, both Iraqi and American, made a point of describing how certain areas in Baghdad, especially some markets and shopping districts, were reviving due to the security crackdown.

"It's one of the ways we can measure success. Shops are re-opening their doors, market stalls are full of fresh fruit and vegetables, and people are flocking to these places to do their shopping because they feel safe," we were told. "It's a real sign of things returning to normal, especially where we've created pedestrian zones by blocking the streets off to vehicles, so car bombs have no access."

"It feels like walking around in Istanbul," said one major general. "I invite you to go and look for yourselves!"

"Let's go shopping," I quipped to our translators, which caused a mixture of hilarious and nervous laughter. I wasn't serious of course, because although it may be safe for local Iraqis to walk around a market, anyone looking Western is still a likely target for kidnappers and other criminals.

Not so fast
So we tried to get a military escort to one of these places. No luck this past weekend, military units which might have been able to escort us were busy with more important things. I asked one of our Iraqi producers to go with our local crew.

They voiced some concerns, but mainly about traveling to the area, so we decided to send some Iraqi security men with them to watch their backs.

We decided to go to Shorja market, Baghdad's most popular central shopping district, which has been bombed several times, including by a large truck bomb which killed 137 last month. It was turned into a pedestrian zone and was the area that the major general described as feeling like Istanbul now.

But the next day, Saturday, our cameraman, told me he checked with a friend who lives near Shorja market, where he was going to film, and he told him there are snipers operating in the area.

A man with a camera on his shoulder is an attractive and easy target. We cancelled the shoot and decided to wait until the military had time to go with us.

Hard to document signs of success
The next day, Sunday, a man tossed a hand grenade into a group of waiting workmen at Shorja market. One man was killed, another wounded. The suspect escaped. We considered ourselves lucky we weren't there.

Then on Monday, someone left a bomb behind the preacher's podium in a small mosque situated among shops at the same market and set it off after the prayers, killing eight and injuring 32. It's as if the culprits want to destroy any signs of normality and stop any claims of success.

And for us, it’s becoming even more difficult to go out and document the signs of progress and normality the U.S. military say are out there.

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True un-bias comments...yeah right. As I sit here watching traffic on the roads...people in the market and businesses downtown...I see some normal actions. The question posed to the interperts would be the same as asking a friend to take you to the heart of Watts at night. You are a target ...due to your afflitation. Drop the hidden agenda and embrace the fact that this society has not matured enough to stop killing each other yet and they should be attacked on that thought.
So often in the early years of the war, we heard, as demonstration of the growing success of the U.S. efforts, that, in spite of all the violence, schools and clinics were being constructed, or renovated, or stocked and equipped. "Yes, but look at the schools and clinics," became the response of anyone countering the obvious which was that the situation in Iraq was steadily deteriorating. In the same way, this new disinformation from the generals and other military personnel "on the ground" has taken the place of the "schools 'n clinics" refrain. "We're seeing some slight but measurable signs of success," the generals say. "Storekeepers are re-opening and people are returning to the shopping districts." We're hearing that kind of talk over and over, almost since the start of the so-called surge. It's become the new mantra; it's taken the place of the "schools and clinics" happy talk. Yet, when you look at icasualties.org and read other sources that continue to report from Iraq, this information from the generals seems to be just simply untrue. Reports still come in regularly of dead and tortured bodies, killed and injured U.S. and Iraqi soldiers, destroyed mosques (recently, a bombed Sunni mosque), killed and injured civilians caught in crossfire and bombings -- now even chlorine gas attacks. It just never ends. We've entered the fifth year of this disaster. The people who regularly trumpet signs of progress like re-supplied vegetable markets are delusional and/or are (once again) working vigorously to spin information and misinform the American and Iraqi people.
where are the good blogs? It can't be all that bad 30 million people and all we hear is killing. What about kids at school, water plants working? The locals going to work and prayer.
Sorry, I prefer to get my own news from sources without an agenda. Examples might be http://pajamasmedia.com/2007/03/baghdad_report_checkpoint_and.php http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/ NBC along with the other ancient media can try as hard as they like but more and more people each day are learning just how spoonfed they've been getting their news. Well the wiser ones, that is.
Doesn't sound like normal to me - and surely not for the long-term. Bring our troops home!
PJlenty of cities in the U.S. and many other parts of the world where you wouldn't consider venturing out on your own. So why don't you report something good for a change. Doom and gloom..........sick of it. How can you live such a hateful negative life?
yet again our government lies, fabricates, and misleads the american public. does anyone else think a peaceful revolution of new government is in order. vote democrat in 2008. just get the republican nazi's out of power
Apparently not only our esteemed president but also some of his top military men on the scene have a hard time seeing/telling the truth. It's just more of the same sickening behavior from this administration and the men who either make money or gain higher ranks from playing along with the party line. Disgraceful!.
As usual the glass is half empty, did you ever stop to think that the fact that the market is open and people are shopping there is a good thing. If i was in the military i would not take the time to take you to the market either.The only outcome would be that you report that you could not go to the market without a militaty escort or that to imply that the military is afraid to go in.That is a win win for you, put the military in a position that no matter what they do they look bad and that nothing is working there. Oh and i know "YOU SUPPORT THE TROOPS" The veil on this report was a little thin even by your standards.
We don't care to watch what you are filming in the markets because you are acting as a black hole that draws sniper fire and other attacks not only on yourselves but on many innocent people. If you MUST shoot videos, go out to the boonies.
Daaahhh - it is a war and the "surge" has just started with 25% of our great troops added. Wonder what you would say if you were in one of the many cities during the height of their share of bombing - perhaps Dresden during WWII. You'd be hunkered down in a bomb shelter. For fair and balanced reports instead of leftie bloggers - see http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
Although still dangerous, I have heard from my husband who is in Iraq that the crackdown has helped a great deal. Unless you live in Iraq day to day, it is extremely hard to see the progress. My husband started in October 2006 and has been there ever since. The conversations we had over the past three-four months have gone from pure terror of what was going on to somewhat normal. I realize there are some folks in the USA who have developed this idea that without perfect or fixing of the situation, we have failed. My husband expresses quite frequently how a small amount of progress in the war on terror is profound. With all the riches and saftey we have here in the USA, it is hard to imagine why that is.
"It's as if the culprits want to destroy any signs of normality and stop any claims of success." -Really, you think so? Perhaps if you were not facilitating their operations by providing a world stage, the culprets would not feel that a violent act would be as effective.
So, in other words, the major general quoted is lying. (His name isn't Westmoreland, is it?) Of course, we could give the General the benefit of the doubt - I mean, perhaps the General shops in Istanbul in a kevlar vest and helmet as a matter of routine. The real concern is that this General's lies undoubtedly go up the chain of command to the White House and Fox's News. And I thought one of the things they teach you in command school is to always provide superior officers with accurate assessments -otherwise, men die.
Oh, here we go again. The MSM and their dire reports from Iraq! Always reporting on 'hand grenades' and 'car bombs'! Clearly, as the blogger is forced to admit, NO ONE was killed at the market on Friday! The Surge is working! Why wasn't THAT the focus of the article??? And where were those ungrateful Iraqis that were present Friday, not getting killed? Shouldn't they have been out on Sunday spreading Democracy, preventing those unpleasant things that happened on Sunday/Monday (which I see no reason to discuss further, certainly not in public)?
Wars are not won in a day. Look at WWII, that took 7 years and it was against an enemy that actually wore uniforms and adhered to Geneva conventions. Trying to change these people is like trying to change our medias mindset. It will take a long time.
We need to support our troops. Talk to those who have returned and ask them if they think it's worth it. The great majority are in favor of getting the job done. For those of you that are dellusional thinking pulling out will make everything better, get ready for US Jihad! The terrorists would love for us to leave tomorrow, so why don't we leave when we feel the job is done and not on a time table. Remember WWII was long ago and we still have troops in Europe.
"Mission Accomplished!" Hahahah...oh the US Military might be well trained, well equiped, and brave...but it is being led by the retarded. I can't believe the Ape-In-Chief actually believed that this 'nation' of tribes with 1000 years of war-like history would just jump up and fellate democracy. I told you so, and now I'm going to sit back and smirk as you war-mongers lay in your beds. If only the government wasn't picking my pocket to support the PWT fantasy of killing non-Christians who never attacked this nation. I'm disgusted by the animalistic comments spewed by the war-supporters. Too stupid to know you've been lied to? Meh.
to those respondents who feel all is well in Baghdad...what colour is the sky in your world?
I'm also tired of the doom and gloom, but what's the alternative? The administration has been painting a rosy picture of this war since before the first troops hit the ground. Donald Rumsfeld's first publicized estimate was that it would take no more than 6 months of our troops on the ground to dominate, liberate, and evacuate. I'm willing to put up with the doom and gloom reporting if it creates a balance with the equal amount of biased information from our government. After all, was the story of Walter Reed doom and gloom? Because if it was never written, OUR troops whom had sacrificed life and limb would still be living in those deplorable conditions. What about the rest of Iraq? I'm thankful that the streets of Baghdad are safer, but my God is that what 3200 American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars was worth? God bless America and God Bless the troops.
What about the good newes ??? Is there anny reports the posative or are all of them about the negitive.How manny years did it take to rebuild germany after ww11. and when are the dems going to pull the troops out of europe?? How about the troops in japan will the dems pull them out also?? What about the troops in corea when will the dems pull them out ??? Whell were wating.....
For God's sake think for yourselves! "We need to support our troops. US Jihad. Mission Accomplished" Sounds like a broken record. You will not get other people on board to support either side by jamming it down their throats! The party lines are drawn, but it cannot go on like this. THe division in this country right now is so counterproductive. I wish no harm to the iraqi's or US troops. But I will not support what the US troops are doing, my right to do so. Albeit most troops in Iraq are from the US, there are also international troops both in Iraq & Afgahnistan, or have you already forgotten about that country we invaded. I for one am sick of hearing about US troops. Americans aren't the only people on this planet! People round the world are sick and tired of hearing about how important Americans are. Please stop doing this to the reputation of the USA. This country has lost it's way, and should seek the support of the world at large. That ironically is democracy. To get others on board like me, this debate needs to become a little less self involved. Yes I lean slightly left, but I am willing to listen. Telling me http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/ or moveon.org is the truth doesn't help, because both are swayed one way or the other. There is no absolute truth in either of these because they offer opposing viewpoints of the same events!
I have only one wish as it relates to reporting on the topic of Iraq. That wish is that the sick mindset of those who blow up children and detonate bombs at a funeral would be given even 10% of the focus. How about a report on the words of these killers and why these opinions are held? How about some honesty by the media on the role that Islam has upon their murderous mentality? "Hard hitting" reporting sadly only exists when journalists desire to point out the deficiencies of our current administration and the problems with American foriegn policy. Such reporting is harmful to America in many ways.


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