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What Iran means by 'yes'

Posted: Friday, March 02, 2007 9:16 AM
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I can now understand why Ali Larijani was chosen as Iran’s chief nuclear negotiator, and can sympathize with those who sit opposite him at the negotiating table.

He is also head of Iran’s powerful Supreme National Security Council, and with President Ahmadinejad abroad, it was left to the wily Larijani to answer questions about whether Iran would attend a regional security conference on Iraq  – a conference that will involve the highest-level contact with the United States in more than two years.

His answer was variously interpreted as "yes," "yes, maybe," "yes, sort of," and "I’m thinking about it." Even the Iranian media couldn’t quite figure it out.

What he actually said, according to the English translation on the official Iranian news agency web site, was this, "We will participate in a conference of Iraqi neighboring states in Baghdad in March, if it will be of help to Baghdad."

He also said he didn’t regard the United States, or the members of the U.N. Security Council, as "neighboring states," and Iraq’s foreign minister now says that while Iran has accepted the invitation Tehran still has "some questions."

Clear as mud?
In my reports for NBC News, I described Larijani’s words as a "cautious yes," and after more conversations here in Tehran, I can fill that out a bit further.

NBC NEWS VIDEO:
March 1: The U.S. and Iran will attend a conference on stabilizing Iraq. NBC's Ian Williams reports from Iran.

 

I think Tehran quite likes the idea of participating in discussions about Iraq’s future, because this gives Iran recognition as a key player, but it is very suspicious about the agenda, and is worries it might all degenerate into a bout of finger-pointing over the Iran’s alleged arming of Shite militias.

There’s also a degree of confusion here about the apparent change of tack in Washington – one minute there’s Vice President Dick Cheney talking grimly about all options being on the table in dealing with Tehran’s nuclear program; next moment there’s Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice urging the mullahs to play a constructive role in Iraq.

There’s also the question of where Iran’s real interests lie. Hardliners here clearly revel in seeing Washington bogged down in Iraq, and in this sense continued chaos next door is just fine. There is a view here that while American lives continue to be lost in Iraq, there is no great appetite for military adventurism in Iran.

On the other hand, pragmatists, who are becoming more outspoken, are extremely worried that sanctions could hurt Iran, and are encouraged by the prospects of dialogue. These people, appalled by Ahmadinejad’s hectoring style, and encouraged by his declining popularity, don’t want to see Tehran further isolated. They believe meaningful discussion over Iraq could also pave the way for progress on nukes.

NBC NEWS VIDEO: What's next for Iraq's neighbors?
Hazir Teimourian, a Middle East analyst, discusses the significance of the upcoming regional conference on Iraq's future, in which Iran and Syria will sit down with the United States and other powers.


 

 

Iran’s official position may become clearer after Ahmadinejad returns from Sudan, where he’s been maintaining his fiery anti-American rhetoric. But the fact he’s calling into Saudi Arabia on the way back – and has sent top envoys to Beijing – suggests he is taking the diplomacy seriously.

For my part, I think the Iranians will be at the table in Baghdad on March 10, but they’ll be testing the water before making any firm commitment to further, high level talks.

That’s my take on what they're up to – maybe, sort of.

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In recent years the politics has evolved as politics of fear. The top politicians make a small things a huge danger and induce fear in citizens minds. When people are afraid, they become submissive, and then they give up their power and authority to the one who says that he will protect them. And people who understand this, can have only 1 vote a person ;) I believe the democracy in its current form is very inefficient. There are people,millions of them, from dumbest to smartest, but democracy gives equal voting rights to both, and people who can really stop these craziness, are very few, they have no power. Millions see news in media and in next second they start believing in it, how many of you really try to find out others views from their local media? Iranian politicians also needs an enemy to unite its people. Everything about Israel is just in statements. Its only for keeping a balance of power in middle east. Assume, you give nukes to Iran, what will happen? They know, if they successfully use it, they will be destroyed or will be send to 100 years back by extreme sanctions, as it happened with Iraq. If they fail, still same thing will happen. What happened when North Korea got nukes? Nothing? Everyone needs to insure its survival, and weak have the least probability of it. Last, but not the least, those who choose such people, are the one who will suffer the consequences, leaders will always have huge chunk of money ;)
The time to destroy the Islamic regim`s nuclear facilities was 2 years ago. Bush did not get the proper advise . As for Islamic regim`s attendence in the Iraq`s confrence is one thing, for the Islamic regime to life a "Finger" , That is admission to the crime , in which they are being accused of !!!!! . In conclusion The Islamic regime will not help. It will continue to Arm the terrorist in Iraq,with the hope of more American Casualties. Just Look at the way this regime Occupying Iran treats its own people... do not expect them to feel bad for the dead americans or the Iraqies for that matter.
I suggest everyone of you re-read the first comment on this blog by "anonymous". He is well informed and knows what he is talking about contrary to the NBC commentator who obviously does not speak Farsi, does not have a clue as to the Iran-US history and one wonders "who" his sources are for him to report from Tehran. He should enjoy the weather, the beautiful view from Esteghlal Hotel, the hospitality of Iranians and return home as soon as possible because there is nothing he can contribute to our understanding.
I suggest everyone of you re-read the first comment on this blog by "anonymous". He is well informed and knows what he is talking about contrary to the NBC commentator who obviously does not speak Farsi, does not have a clue as to the Iran-US history and one wonders "who" his sources are for him to report from Tehran. He should enjoy the weather, the beautiful view from Esteghlal Hotel, the hospitality of Iranians and return home as soon as possible because there is nothing he can contribute to our understanding.
Hi Ian, I welcome you to Iran; I am a student of civil engineering in Tehran. I have read your report. At first I want to make clear that I am not one of Ahmadinejad’s fans and I didn’t vote for him and I will not vote for him either, but I don’t like that language and I don’t like the president of my country to be offended. Let me complain about the picture that you and your colleagues make for western ordinary people from Iran, In the west countries they think that Iran is like Iraq whereas our country is one of modern countries of the region. (You can ask it from Sean Penn that during the presidential election was in Iran and he had also visited Iraq before the war and I think his report was the fairest report from Iran although it wasn’t perfect and here I need to thank him for avoiding prejudgment.) Can I ask why the grade of brightness and sharpness of your cameras are always dismal and dark when you picture Iran. How often do you picture Tehran’s modern skyscrapers, expressways, towers, national library, high buildings, huge parks, metro system, malls, entertainment’s complexes, research center for special new treatment of handicapped people and other infrastructures. Iran is not an industrialized country but it’s lowering its distance by reaching High-Techs and it includes all kind of High-Techs and not only nuclear energy. Provided that I am studying civil engineering I know lots of structures like dams, bridges, freeways, tunnels, oil related structures, skyscrapers and … that are constructed with international high standards. I see the censorship in Iran’s governmental TV and radio because I usually check western news Networks, but I see lots of censorship about the facts of my country in western Networks too. At the end I want to say in order to lower the confrontation and give the more chance to calmness and peace and friendliness, the both sides should make a true picture for their people and avoid extremism.
Hi Ian, I welcome you to Iran; I am a student of civil engineering in Tehran. I have read your report. At first I want to make clear that I am not one of Ahmadinejad’s fans and I didn’t vote for him and I will not vote for him either, but I don’t like that language and I don’t like the president of my country to be offended. Let me complain about the picture that you and your colleagues make for western ordinary people from Iran, In the west countries they think that Iran is like Iraq whereas our country is one of modern countries of the region. (You can ask it from Sean Penn that during the presidential election was in Iran and he had also visited Iraq before the war and I think his report was the fairest report from Iran although it wasn’t perfect and here I need to thank him for avoiding prejudgment.) Can I ask why the grade of brightness and sharpness of your cameras are always dismal and dark when you picture Iran. How often do you picture Tehran’s modern skyscrapers, expressways, towers, national library, high buildings, huge parks, metro system, malls, entertainment’s complexes, research center for special new treatment of handicapped people and other infrastructures. Iran is not an industrialized country but it’s lowering its distance by reaching High-Techs and it includes all kind of High-Techs and not only nuclear energy. Provided that I am studying civil engineering I know lots of structures like dams, bridges, freeways, tunnels, oil related structures, skyscrapers and … that are constructed with international high standards. I see the censorship in Iran’s governmental TV and radio because I usually check western news Networks, but I see lots of censorship about the facts of my country in western Networks too. At the end I want to say in order to lower the confrontation and give the more chance to calmness and peace and friendliness, the both sides should make a true picture for their people and avoid extremism.
Anonymous (Sent Friday, March 02, 2007 10:35 AM) I totally agree with you. Iran must stand on her own feet without any dependency on any foreign country.
It's about time the human race grew up. Our planet - our birth place if you like - is warning us - grow up or die. All the petty disputes will look insignificant in years to come when millions die due to climate change. The world has a natural cycle of warming and cooling - humans with our selfish activity have accelarated a natural cycle towards increased warming or increased cooling. What the politicians have to say about this major issue. they are more concerned with their egos and keeping face. The only reason why these people are in power, be it London, Washington or Tehran, is becasue we the people let them. We can carpe on about how this person done that to another. It's like a kindergarten school playground. If we don't grow up then we will all die. Our Earth has plenty of time to raise another life form to sentience. We must act now in our individual lives. If we believe in freedom, self determination, love for our neighbours, wther it is in the house next door or our neighbouring country or neighbouring continent. If we don't care then why should life or your god you choose to believe care about us. Get with the program people the real issue is in your own back yard.
I am somewhat perplexed. I submitted a post about 18 hours ago that is actually factual and doesn't attack any posters on this blog, yet I do not see it posted. Whereas the post by Brad directly attacks another person, and is very, very inaccurate. I guess if people post inaccuracies and bash Bush or Bush supporters, then they are okay to be printed. Hmm, I am sensing a liberal agenda. Whatever happened to just reporting the truth - integrity people - its a good thing!
Hi Ian, I welcome you to Iran; I am a student of civil engineering in Tehran. I have read your report. At first I want to make clear that I am not one of Ahmadinejad’s fans and I didn’t vote for him and I will not vote for him either, but I don’t like that language and I don’t like the president of my country to be offended. Let me complain about the picture that you and your colleagues make for western ordinary people from Iran, In the west countries they think that Iran is like Iraq whereas our country is one of modern countries of the region. (You can ask it from Sean Penn that during the presidential election was in Iran and he had also visited Iraq before the war and I think his report was the fairest report from Iran although it wasn’t perfect and here I need to thank him for avoiding prejudgment.) Can I ask why the grade of brightness and sharpness of your cameras are always dismal and dark when you picture Iran. How often do you picture Tehran’s modern skyscrapers, expressways, towers, national library, high buildings, huge parks, metro system, malls, entertainment’s complexes, research center for special new treatment of handicapped people and other infrastructures. Iran is not an industrialized country but it’s lowering its distance by reaching High-Techs and it includes all kind of High-Techs and not only nuclear energy. Provided that I am studying civil engineering I know lots of structures like dams, bridges, freeways, tunnels, oil related structures, skyscrapers and … that are constructed with international high standards. I see the censorship in Iran’s governmental TV and radio because I usually check western news Networks, but I see lots of censorship about the facts of my country in western Networks too. At the end I want to say in order to lower the confrontation and give the more chance to calmness and peace and friendliness, the both sides should make a true picture for their people and avoid extremism.
All this talk of Iran's peaceful nuclear power program is misled. How can Iran be trusted with nuclear power? After all, its leader said that Israel should be wiped off the map. I think that the effort to bring peace to Iraq will fail due to religious tensions between Sunni and SHiite, but I also fear that if Iran is allowed to come to the table about Iraq, Iran will only use this to further the bloodshed in Iraq. After all, Iraq and the U.S.A. are two of Iran's most hated enemies.
It's hard to believe that the bleeding-heart liberals responding to this blog have such a selective memory. When the U.S. goes it, basically, alone in Iraq, Bush is wrong and incompetent (even though the vast majority of both parties agreed that we needed to take pre-emptive measures). When the administration seeks a diplomatic solution in N. Korea, Bush is wrong. When we work for a diplomatic solution to the Middle East problem, Bush is wrong. You can't have it both ways, guys! With regard to nuclear weapons, I don't recall anyone except some of the bloggers on this site stating that our administration, the House or Senate stating that we believe that Iran has WMDs. It seems that a few other countries like the Euros, Russia and China believe that it would be interest of world peace to halt the process of refining nuclear grade uranium. In spite of the fact that Iran has enough oil to remain self-sufficient energy-wise for many decades, no reasonable person is stating that they are not entitled to develop a nuclear program for the purposes of providing energy. The issue is whether the method of achieving it should be based upon technology that can be used to derive weapons grade fissile material. I believe that the aforementioned countries have suggested several ways of working around the issue, including processing the fuel in Russia, using a different technology for the nuclear reactor(s) etc. Hopefully, Iran will follow the path of Libya and North Korea (if you can believe them) and opt for a path that is beneficial to all concerned. Iran is a beautiful country, with hard working, intelligent people. Most of them don't agree with the stand taken by Ahmedinajad. As for us in the U.S., it is good to remind us that we have supported some of the most ruthless, despotic people and governments over the lifetime of our country. Certainly, we are not to be held harmless in what has happened in the Middle East and elsewhere. What it comes down to is that every country will do what it can to act in its own interests. The ideal of the U.N. was to see if it could develop concensus that would lead all involved to accept the fact that some concessions would have to be agreed by all involved in order to arrive at an acceptable and long lasting peace. If the U.N. could cease its, apparently, prime focus on becoming the most corrupt organization on the face of the planet, it just might result in some progress.
Sal - Pissing off the entire muslim world would better define the battle lines. Currently, the West is disabled by it's uncertainty of friend versus foe. That is what prevents large scale destruction and military action replaced instead by attempts at uprooting "camoflauged" terrorists. If we replaced soldiers patrolling streets with large-scale bombings, we'd end this war very quickly. Problem is, the West values life, innocent life, and therefore has chosen the more difficult approach. I wonder whether there is any real support for the West in the muslim world as its hatred of Israel is so intense. Maybe a large-scale annihlation of a muslim nation will remind the world that our difficulties in Iraq are because of our values and appreciation for life, something radical muslims don't share and exploit.
My biggest issue with Bush has not been his desire to attack a muslim nation. My issue with Bush is that he hit the wrong Country. Sadam was a coward and affraid to die. He would not have engaged in a mutually destructive act towards the West or its Allies for fear of his own demise. If he thought America was really coming, he would've taken the deal to be exiled without hesitation. Iran . . . that's a country we should've addressed many years back with force. The Supreme Council is akin to the Taliban and worthy of its own demise. The problem is that the institutional muslim world only seems to understand the language of violence. It's a sad reality. Our greatest handicap in fighting these battles is our value of life. Our enemy doesn't value life and therefore has a great advantage. The other advantage of our enemy is its ability to lurk amongst the massive populations of ordinary muslims. If we did not value life or declared teh people of Iran our enemy (as we did in Germany and Japan in WWII), this war would be over. A few massive bombings and we all could go home.
I suggest reading "The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians", a fine book written by Michael Hoffman and Moshe Lieberman. Here are two Jews who present a clear and balanced picture on what is behind the Israeli Agenda. It is time for Americans to wake up, see page 97 and how many billions of US taxpayers dollars go to Israel. Why? The Jews are only 2% of the American population. The book is available at www.revisionisthistory.org. ISBN; 0-9703784-2-4
What ever people say about Iran, but Iran has not invaded any country. I still think Iran is a peaceful nation that merely wanted to be left alone and stand its own feet. And it is obvious that there is nothing positive that come from our commitment in Iraq and Afghanistan, then we have to say that we are prepared come home-but we are not there yet. However, I don't think we should have invaded Iraq in the first place, until after United Nations inspections were over, until we had secured Afghanistan, and we had a consensus in the world community. I think Saddam Hussein presented not any kind of a terrorist threat to United States. I strongly believe that president Bush has made a biggest mistake by occupying Iraq. There is no win win situation for United States in Iraq. Bush should have been realized before invading Iraq that Iraq is a country in which religion, ethnicity and tribe are most important that a sense of being and Iraqi. So it may be a long time indeed before democracy is imposed on the Iraqi people.!!!
I think Iran and Syria are the most important countries in the region, who will bring peace in Iraq and to end this sectarian tensions and violence in Iraq. Bush must understand that these countries are the part of solution and not part of the problems. Occupy the homeland of others, thousands of kilometers away from their border, and interfere in their affairs and control their resources and strategic routes are the greatest sins in the eyes of Almighty God.!!!
Dana, San Jose, CA. I think the very reason the USA is in Iraq, is to build a permanent base in Baghdad with a area of 104 sq. acres of the Green Zone and that shinning "Colossal Embassey" that is a tribute to Dick Cheney, who promised the Shi'ites help to overthrow Saddam in '91. Saddam found out about the deal and dispatched his troops and filled graves with bodies of the Shi'ites in Southern Iraq in '91, This effort now is a effort full fill that promise he made in '91 and to replace the one that the Saudi Arabian kicked the USA out of. Besides the USA needed a permanent presence in the Middle East to supplement the void to supply, defend and protect our money laundering friends in Israel. Just this weekend did we find out that the NIA couldn't verify any information that lead to this present day dilemma. We were duped by "FEAR & THE TERRORIST THREAT" coming from the highest offices that we are invaded by these Terrorist who vowed to get us. Rudy said, Friday, this war on terrorism will be over when the terrorist do not have the will to take the USA on as being weak. How many terrorist attacks on American soil have there been since Sept. 11, 2001? Are they all being brought to countries that have US military boots in them? Osama Bin Laden said get your boots out of the "Holy Land". HUH, How are you ever going to eliminate every bad person in the world that someone doesn't like? As much as people don't like Bill Clinton, he had the right idea of "DIPLOMACY" that worked with Bill Richardson to negotiate a fair trade with help to feed the people of North Korea. His policy was, we will supply you with the necessary food and fuel to help your country with one condition, that you stop enrichment of the plutonium, you break this treaty, I, Bill Clinton will personally see to, it is destroyed. For years '94 thru '02 this worked until this administration said they were not bound to this treaty that expired in '02, all "Hell" broke out about nuclear war heads and long range missiles that even now the National Intellegence Agency now can't comfirm. Now fast forward to '07, we are now coming around to the Clinton doctrine of "DIPLOMACY" with talking to other nations. He did something wrong, but he never killed anyone and to this day he is respected around the world. He even walked down the streets of Saigon in 2000 with Chelsea in hand and was stopped by large crowds to welcome him as a "Hero", while our current leader had to go from place to place in a bullet proof limo just waving to the people on the street of Saigon that didn't realize the President of the USA was in a visit to Vietnam. POSITION, POSITION, POSITION was the intend to invade Iraq, and to think we didn't finish the work to surup Afghanistan, as Tommy Franks said among other things you will need is more body bags as you are not equiped to fight in this terrain. Tommy Franks also left unguarded Ammo dumps that the Shi'iters raided and used to kill our troops, remember al Sader? Then to write in as book that Doug Feifth was the dumdest "F---ing idiot for planning this war that he ever met. Thank Kate O'Berine husband Jim O for the idots he sent to Iraq with questions as "did you vote for the president" or what is your stance on abortion, or do you think this war is justfied? That is who supplied L. Paul Bremmer the people that was to lead the CPA. that couldn't count or lead the right way to secure Iraq.
Maybe all you liberals will wake up when there is a mushroom cloud over New York. God knows 9-11 didn't wake you up. Great idea, do nothing to prevent neuclear technology, to the biggest state sponsor of terrorism on the planet.
Given a choice between war and peace the answer is obvious!!!
Please, all of the sympathizers that are commenting on this site need to realize your government knows far more than you do about Iran. You base what you say on common arguements. "We (U.S) are not sure if they (Iran) have WMD's" Well, I will remind you that Ahmadinejad stated Iran was going to wipe Isreal off the face of the earth. How else could he do so? They may not have the nuclear capabilities right now, but why are we going to wait around until they do get nukes. The real reason the Iranian government does not want to say "yes" so clearly is because they want to have a reason to keep their relationship with the U.S. on shaky ground. If they agreed quickly and clearly they would seem to follow the lead of the U.S. This is something they never want to do. All I can say is, they have a madman leading their country, and there are plenty of American's that are going to have to pull their foot out of their mouth when Iran uses the nukes they are receiving from Russia. Russia needs the money. Iran made known their intentions. We all know that Russia has nuclear weapons, so it should also be known that Iran is a perfect customer for Russia.
It is refreshing to note that most contributors - unlike, "Aurelius" in New York - understand that the Iranian people have legitimate needs and interests and that it is we who are the outsider, the manipulator. We must become a working part of the international community and stop trying to solve all of the world's problems - especially since we don't seem to understand them.
,,,,just shows the duplicity of "westernwers". folk, say one thing and they (euros et al) twist it every which way to raze countries to the ground and kill and maim hundreds of thousands..remember the quote of mahmood ahmedinejad to "wipe/destroy israel off face/map/earth"?...well check again...the original persian and its correct translation has always and still is available,,,he was quoting the late imam khomeini...he said: the imam said: this entity occupying jerusalem must vanish from the pages of history. no words like wipe off/out, destroy, israel, face, map. wow, can you "westerners" fib and cause such havoc,,,even hitler would be envious...
Yes, yes... I seem to get an idea...
I think the Iranian people want peace; they appear to be good people. I think the vast majority of Americans want peace. However, American's will always have take issue to leaders of any country that vow to erase another country of the planet; especially a leader seeking nuclear power. Iran doesn't have to enrich uranium to the level they are choosing to in order to supply power. This is sending a bad signal to everyone...especially Israel.


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