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Pointing a shaky finger at Iran

Posted: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:27 AM
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"No recording devices permitted" read the invitation to the briefing on Iran. At the Coalition Press Office, it wasn’t called Iran, or a briefing on accusations that Iran is helping attack U.S. soldiers in Iraq. In the language of international accusations, the topic of the press briefing was "subject matter related to a neighboring country." Everyone knew what it was though.

The U.S. administration for months has accused Iran of sending weapons and technology across the border to be used in attacks on American forces in Iraq. It promised to reveal evidence backing up those charges but officials weren't comfortable that they had enough evidence they could present publicly without jeopardizing their sources.

So on Sunday nearly 50 journalists were packed into a crowded briefing room in Baghdad to listen to officials whom we weren't allowed to identify, talking about things they weren’t allowed to fully explain.

The senior U.S. military official told us he should be referred to as a "senior Coalition defense official" rather than an "American official." After journalists pressed the point that accusations this serious were being made by officials who wouldn't divulge their nationalities, he agreed that he and his two colleagues could be referred to as "U.S. officials."

‘Growing body of evidence’
He told us that the use of the deadliest form of roadside bomb known as EFP's - explosively formed penetrators - had nearly doubled last year. And he said there was a "growing body of evidence pointing to Iranian supply of EFPs to Iraqi extremist groups."

That evidence, according to a U.S. intelligence official at the briefing, included machine-tooled parts used in the roadside bombs. They had reason to believe they had come from machine shops in Iran and hadn't found any being made with such precision in Iraq, he said.

The official moderating the briefing said the intelligence analyst was the reason for the secrecy. He said it would be dangerous for the analyst, an Iran expert, and his sources to be publicly shown or identified.

Some of the weapons the U.S. believes are being smuggled from Iran were displayed on tables. The de-activated EFP looked almost harmless -- a metal tube the size of a large paint can with a copper liner. When filled with explosives though and detonated by remote control, it turns into a molten slug that pierces armored vehicles, often killing three or four soldiers at a time.

U.S. military officials have talked about them before, but not in this detail. The official at the briefing told us they have killed 170 coalition troops and wounded 620 of them since they first started being used in 2004.

On another table were more than a dozen tail-fins from Iranian mortars marked with the date of manufacture, some as recent as 2006. According to the explosives expert, they are identifiably Iranian because the tail-fins and the mortars are a single piece.

According to the U.S., but hard to verify
We were ordered to leave everything outside except a pen and notebook when we went into the briefing. Shortly after it started, my pen failed. An Iraqi journalist gave me his - he wasn't using it. Several of the Iraqi journalists got up and left before the briefing was over.

That's the difficult thing about this story -- without having access to information the U.S. government says it can't give us, it's impossible to evaluate the accusations that these weapons are coming only from Iran in operations authorized by the Iranian government. It's particularly difficult because the U.S. doesn't speak to Iran – so it uses other countries –- and the media to send its messages.

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According to Gen. Pace the Bush Administration is lying or at least embellishing the "evidence" against Iran.
I believe it's high time for an "accident" over in Iran. Something subtle but effective.
I highly doubt the Bush administration wants another war they can't handle thoroughly and decisively. President Bush may have made mistakes in the recent past regarding intelligence, but this information is of the highest concern for the American public. We must understand that if we do attack Iran, their worldwide network of terrorists, and that does include members of Hezbollah who have actively recruited and funded within the U.S. since the early '80s, will be activated. What more will it take for the world to realize that the terrorists of today are likeable in mindset of the Nazis and Kamikazes of Japan. They hold no human life valuable and will stop at nothing short of death to achieve their goals. Regardless of what faith you do or don't believe in, this is a social and religious war that will not end until the extremists are sent to their maker.
I have a few questions. 1. If Iran is supplying weapons to Iraq why would they have serial numbers? Wouldn’t that be stupid on their part? Anybody can stencil a serial number. 2. Is the U.S. supplying arms and or money to the faction that wants to overthrow the Iranian government? 3. Are missing some important facts? 4. Are any other countries supporting the faction in Iraq? 5. How does Saudi Arabia fit into this picture? I feel that we are being misled again.
See the 2005 documentary, "Why We Fight." This film explains a lot.
fool me once, shame on you fool me twice, shame on me
It is time to take the General George Patton's idea and clean this mess in Iraq/Iran up. If there is colatteral damage, Oh well, this is a WAR. These people want to kill you, me,etc. It is past time to put all our resources to work and wipe out these killers.
I find it ironic that a country as full of "intelligence" as the mighty U.S.A.,(considering they could not even find the weapons of mass destruction they used as an excuse to start a terrible war) would have the nerve to start pointing fingers at another country for manufacturing explosive devices that are "killing their soldiers"...based on the reason of not being able to find any made with such precision in the country that they are currently destroying!!!
They're trying to get you to do some "booga-booga" journalism, where you report scary rumors and exaggerated allegations as fact. They don't know the difference between intelligence and spin, and they blur the lines repeatedly to serve whatever they want to accomplish at the moment, e.g., they leak intelligence on the identity of Valerie Plame and they spin the Iranians as major weapons dealers to Iraq insurgents. They are lost. Don't follow them.
LIES...ALL LIES!! THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE!! THEY'RE MAKING THIS UP!!
LIES LIES LIES. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. W - this one's on you. You're finished. Grow up. We're on to you.
It may about time to speak to Iran and give the ultimatum that Jimmie Carter should have given when our people were hostages in 1979!
As I thought, your Liberal set minds turned down my comments. Get it thru your sorry heads, you can not negoiate with terrorists
This is how we are going to start the next war... by tying it in with Iraq and making both conflicts part of the 'war on terror'. How do you think this administration will handle it's fourth war in five years?
SOUNDS LIKE THE BUSH TEAM IS TRYING THEIR OLD TRICKS AGIN. THIS TIME WE ARE NOT GOING TO BUY INOT THEIR LIES AND COVERT OPERATIONS TO MAKE US BELIEVE IT IS IRAN!
The Bush Administration will bomb Iran with or without justification and without regard to consequences because it wants to. Bush/Cheney, et. al. are now the most dangerous men on earth and should be removed from office immediately.
Your report does not take into account military assets, such as .50 "anti-materiel" rifles sold to the Iranian regieme adn readily traceable as such. From the UK Telegraph... "More than 100 of the.50 calibre weapons, capable of penetrating body armour, have been discovered by American troops during raids. The Steyr HS50 is a long range, high precision rifle The guns were part of a shipment of 800 rifles that the Austrian company, Steyr-Mannlicher, exported legally to Iran last year. The sale was condemned in Washington and London because officials were worried that the weapons would be used by insurgents against British and American troops... The National Iranian Police Organisation bought the rifles allegedly to use them against drug smugglers in an £8 million order placed with Steyr in 2005." Read it all... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=JPKY4R41A1KIBQFIQMGCFF4AVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/02/13/wiran13.xml
Jane, I think on this issue we should engage in a paradigm shift away from a debate over whether the Iranians are providing their Iraqi Shia allies with the lethal means to enable them to counter US military pressure on them, to not being at all surprised if they are and to recognize that such would be a perfectly natural thing to do, given that Iran's interests in the future of Iraq are far greater than those of the US; after all, Iran has to live with whatever mess we leave behind. This, I believe, is a more mature and objective way to approach such a matter, than the tangential one of are-they-aren't-they, accompanied by the emotional matter of the devices killing US personnel; yes, indeed, every time the US military pushes on the Shia militias, this sort of thing is bound to happen and there's just no way Iran will leave those allies defenseless against such pressure! You and I and many others know that the best approach to minimizing the risk to our troops from Iranian-supplied lethality, is best of all not to have our troops in the midst of a civil war, but since they are there, for the US to be seriously and constructively, working to engage diplomatically with Iran to determine how, cooperatively, the situation in Iraq can be stabilized, rather than the US escalating US-Iran tension over such an issue as the IEDs.
I'd say "Ho Hum, more lies from the war mongering, war profiteering Bush administration neocon New World Order Zionists" -- but "Ho Hum" isn't appropriate given the dangerous situation for the world, including the increased risk of cancer from nuclear fallout. Why doesn't anyone rein in these thugs who are in charge of the U.S. government? It appears the Democrats will go along with them as usual.
once agian cheney bush is trying the same old stuff when will we learn that regaurdless of how it looks a WAR CRIMINAL is a war criminal it doesn't change if we don't want to admitt it or not. we know it, the world knows it, and untill we are ready to put an end to this CRIMINAL ACT we call IRAQ ,Impeach these WAR CRIMINALS and submitt to INTERNATIONAL law by turning over ALL OF THOSE CONNECTED WITH THIS CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATION for Trial (Hopefully ending with a televised hanging for all the world to see)Untill then we will never have or deserve the respect of the international community.
Sounds like the administration has decided that any diversion is a good diversion. On a positive note, it's good for a few laughs when Bush tells countries in the Middle East not to meddle in Iraq. That's like Iran telling us to to meddle with our neighbors in Canada. Just brilliant.
Question? Who has been identified as using these weapons against our troops? If they are Shia; why would the majority group be targeting US troops, there to help support their new government?
If we do not have proof it never happened. The militants know how to use our judicial system against us. We will never get a clue without evidence. When do you say enough is enough and go after the source. Afterall the source is selling these materials to harm us!
What would Colin Powell think of this presentation,he would not put his reputation on the line again for any flimsy information like this.
The same neocons that cooked the books to invade Iraq stand behind this theater. President Eisenhower warned of the role of military industries in dictating policies if they get too powerful. US's military budget this year is 700 billion dollars or 8 times that of the entire EU and 25% of the US budget. These industries need new wars to keep the shareholders happy.
To think that you would actually suggest that the Administration is mis-leading the world on the fact that Iran is sending weapons and people into Iraq is not only absurd, its simply embarrassing as an American. It's time for the media to STEP UP and call out the rougue countries for what they are, and what their doing.. It's time to stop pointing all the fingers at the U.S.. Who, by the way, does more to support those in need in every country across the globe than anyone else.. We are trying to spread democracy across the middle east, not becuase we think that our way is better, but becuase their way is clearly a danger to the not just the U.S., but the world. It's time this was acknowleged, and it's time that the media calls on the rest of the world for its support.. The U.N. has been a joke, and very corrupt by the way.. Yet you all seem to let that pass. Now we show that Iran is doing these horrible things, and you question it? Should we simply give you all the intel so you can post it on your front page for the whole world to read? Please, at some point you have to get a clue. Or someday you may not be able to write the crap that your freedom right now lets you write.!
The chickens have come home to roost. This time we have the goods on Iranian complicity and involvement but neither the credibility nor the backbone to use it. The Bush administration has made a complete and utter hash of the anti-terror effort and is now simply paralyzed in a failed war with no hope of real change. We will see more casualties, more rhetoric, and more confusion as long as this incompetent and fruadulent president is in power.
When I was a young man, I believed everything my government said. As I old man, I doubt everything that is said. I look back at a lifetime of lies, manipulations and a lot of dead friends who thought they were dying for the "cause". Anybody, and especially a politician, that won't provide concrete proof (and that can be manufactured) isn't to be believed.
Iran may well be a larger threat than Iraq ever was. It's too bad that the Bush administration spent all their credibility on lying us into Iraq.
Bush wants war with Iran, and He is lying to get it...
I would agree that Iran may have sold weapons or parts to neighboring countries at the present time or the pass. Further investigation is needed in order to pin this on Iran alone. And other the other hand if Iran is supplying weapons or parts and are lying about this it still requires stronger substantial evidence from within Iran it self.
NUKE THEM ALL
I'm not a military analyst nor am I an expert on identifying what part was made where and by whom but it doesnt take an expert to know that Iran has threatened us many times (America and Israel). The Iranian leader has shouted out in demonstrations many times that "Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth" and "Death to America". I can't say for certain if Iran is helping Iraq by making weapons or providing parts because the evidence has not been presented yet but I say there is a really good chance they are. You do the math.
Here we go again.....
check this out
Facts? Evidence? Reality? What do these have to do with the liar-in-chief? Absolutely nothing! The decider has decided to bomb Iran and that's that. They'll just keep repeating the same lies about Iran supplying weapons to Iraq over and over again until the sheep in this country accept it as the truth. Sound familiar?
This seems to be a repeat of the WMD search from 2003. We had pictures and other "classified evedence" then too. Still we never found the WMDs. Now the administation's rep is in the toilet because of that and the ongoing struggle that insued. There's no way for the average American to know if this is accurrate other than the media. I personally feel that we should back off a little for now. Our best efforts to stop the kaos in the Middle East has indeed feuled the fires of hate for America there and elswhere in the world. Good intensions with bad results. A sharp change in policy is over-due. I also don't believe U.S. has any right to tell Iran they can't have the a-bomb. The technology has been around for over 60 years and was somewhat kept under wraps. how long did we really think it would be before others figure it out.It is the responsibility of our scientists and military to stay a step ahead of them(remember civil defence plans that we shelved because of M.A.D.). It is also not our place to try to develope the world. Those third world countries need to find their own way as we did. It took civil war in America to abolish slavery and make America free for all.Maybe Iraq needs civil war to advance their society as well. Maybe when the smoke clears in Iraq there might actually be a civilization. As far as the extremist themselves. They will not stop as long as we keep trying to fight this PC war on terror. War is terror at its best. Not every German was a Nazi. Do you think the allies would've defeated Hitler if we only went after him and his party. NO! All of Germany had to pay the price. Same with Japan. The extremists are the Arab versions of fanatic groups here like the KKK, Bloods, Skinheads, Branch Davidions, and all the other cults and gangs. They're street thugs!! The government of their country should controll them as we do. If they don't we should attack that country outright. Women and children included. For now I think A complete pullout from Iraq, and an end to the current "offensive" in the war on terror combined with the promise that we will kill 1000 muslim men women and children for every American killed will do the world justice and make the extremists think twice before attacking the U.S.
Wasn't there a point in time where the word of the United States meant something? There are so many contradictions and flat out fallatious statements coming from the administration and state department, it's hard to tell fact from fiction. Is that part of their plan?
I wonder if the intelligence from the White House is the same intelligence we all heard before going into Iraq. It seems to me the old addage, "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" comes into play here. Honestly, is there anything the "little boy" could cry now that would make us believe him? After crying "Wolf," it can be difficult for him to regain credibility with the American people. http://thelastbastionofreason.blogspot.com
DOES THIS STORY SOUND FAMILIAR TO ANYONE ELSE WITH COMMON SENSE. BUSH MUST THINK WE ARE ALL IDIOTS, AND HE AND HIS CABINET ARE THE SMARTEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. ARREST THIS IDIOT OF A PRESIDENT AND HIS CABINET FOR MURDERING THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE OR DEEP SIX THEM. I LIKE THE LATTER BECAUSE IT WOULD SAVE US MILLIONS ON A TRIAL. HE WANTS SHIA TO FIGHT SUNNI IN EVERY LAND IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
when all i hear is the iran president talking about blowing up isrial,, and talking with the president of vinasrela, and russia giving iran their supplies for the so called peaceful reactors. yes i have no dout that iran is killing are troops. and plan on doing alout more in days to come.
We can't trust any organization that has proven itself to be untrustworthy. Sadly, this administration and its allies within our military have repreatedly proven to be untrustworthy. The 4th Estate needs to rise to the challenge of finding a way to either prove or disprove these serious allegations. Then, it needs to be proven that the press assets, that have proven (or disproven) these allegations, have not acted as agents of this administration or their allies within the military, as has repeatedly been the case in recent years related to the build-up for war against Iraq. As you can see, the difficult situation here may be resistant to resolution due to the well documented nature of this irreseponsible administration. No one on earth will ever be convinced that the US hasn't doctored whatever intelligence it obtains connecting Iran to the insurgent activities in Iraq. The only evidence that will be believed is that which counters the claims being made by the Bush Administration and our military planners. This is just more of the price we'll continue to pay for having lied our way into this war.
No one knows who is telling the truth and who isn't anymore, and that is partially credited to the news media!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The news here is not that Iran might be supplying weapons to insurgents but that this is considered news at all. Of course Iran is suppling weapons to Iraq. Wouldn't the US supply men and material to Canada or Mexico if those countries had been invaded by one of our enemies? Didn't the US supply supervisors and weapons including Stinger Missiles to Afghanistan insurgents (including Osama bin Laden) when Russia invaded them? Didn't both the Soviet Union and the United States prop up and supply with money, weapons, intel and advisors, countries that supported each's respective cause?? What is all the hooplah about? We are playing hardball in Iraq and so is Iran and anyone that fooled themselves into thinking this wouldn't or shouldn't happen is diconnected from reality.
The weapons used by the terrorist State of Israel are supplied by the US. What are we going to do about that?
I don't believe them. This administration and its appointees lied to us at least four times as they tried to develop an excuse for invading Iraq. When one lie (WMDs) was exposed, they tried another (al-quieda ties) and another (acquiring urnamium for nukes) and another (we can bring them democracy even tho there is no realistic plan post-invasion). Typical...can't tell you the man or the sources as it will 'expose' him...you'll just have to trust us until the intelligence is exposed as bullshit post invasion. Just like in Iraq. Whatever. I'm just so sad that our military people and our finances are being wasted on this honor-less boondoggle. The sectarian/civil strife was well predicted, but Bush ignored it.
Why believe the Administration people including the Militarty because they have to read the script given to them by the White House.
Remember all those "confirmed" reports of WMD's, hidden stores of biological weapons, enriched uranium from Africa, Hussein's harboring of Al Qaida agents, etc.? All of these were solemnly verified by the Bush Administration as true and verifiable. Why do the new reports indicating that the Iranian government is surrepitiously sending roadside bombs to Iraqi insurgents remind me of the story of the boy who cried "wolf"?
JUST MORE BEATING OF THE WARDRUMS BY THE NEO-CON WAR MACHINE! How many more billions are going to be wasted on the killing of innocent Iraqi Civilians ... which are mostly women ... children ... and babies! This is just another Gender Based Genocide which most wars are since they end up killing mostly women and their children! TIME TO VOTE ALL OF THE WAR MONGERS OUT OF OFFICE!
Its a war , of course there are weapons coming from everywhere , not just Iran. Iran was helping America after 9/11 with getting rid of the Taliban , then Bush came out with his axis of evil speech and slapped Iran in the face. The Bush team has done Iran's work for them , got rid of the Taliban , got rid of another enemy Saddam , and no Iranian had to die. When did Iran or Iraq ever attack America - never!! A bunch of punks hit America on 9/11 not any country yet America goes to war with Iraq , why WMD - never found any though did they? Now they say Iran is arming the militants , yeah rigjt , like we are going to beleive these guys again? And so what if they are - its a war! Leave Iran alone , attacking them would just be another foolish move by the Bush Administration. Billons spent on this war , while Gulf states are still a mess from Katrina. Stop spending money on wars , and spend it in our own country!!


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