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In Pakistan, the biggest star is in drag

Posted: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:49 AM
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Last year when a journalist from Indian-administered Kashmir asked me what the "story" was behind Begum Nawazish Ali, I was more than just surprised. The Begum (the term means "Lady" in Urdu) in question is the host of Pakistan's most popular TV talk show – "Late Night Show with Begum Nawazish Ali."

 I didn’t think Aaj, the fledgling television channel which broadcasts the show, was even seen outside the country. I asked him how he knew the name of Pakistan’s rising star and he said "Oh, we all watch her program off satellite!"

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"Late Night Show with Begum Nawazish Ali" host Ali Saleem in drag. Click here to watch VIDEO of Begum Nawazish preparing for the show.

The talk show host making waves in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan (and apparently Kashmir) is purportedly a stylish, middle-aged, socialite widow of an army colonel. Her monologues are often laced with sexual innuendo, she flirts openly with her guests, and sometimes embarrasses them with probing questions about their private lives. Her guests include some of Pakistan's most well-known personalities: the urban elite, film and television stars and even some top politicians. Most are nevertheless thrilled to be invited to appear on a program millions are watching.

Viewers are obviously fascinated too. Dinner party conversations here in Karachi are often peppered with anecdotes about her risqué banter and sly digs at Pakistani politics. Women call the television station to inquire about the tailoring of her sequined blouses and where to buy her glamorous saris.

The thing is, Begum Nawazish Ali is actually a man. Ali Saleem, the 28-year-old man who dons lipstick, mascara and a wig to Begum Nawazish Ali, has managed to break many taboos in conservative Pakistan through the character.

A strong, glamorous Pakistani woman
When I nonchalantly mentioned that the host was in drag to the Kashmiri journalist, his eyes almost popped out of his head. That was almost a bigger surprise for me. I thought that fact was obvious to everyone and was part of the show's success. Certainly no Pakistani woman on television could get away with the kind of double entendres she gets away with.

To the actor Saleem, there is little doubt about why audiences are tuning in – they’re all waiting to see what the well-coiffed, manicured character will say next.

Female guests often find themselves comparing wardrobes and jewelry with her, while male guests have had to bear the brunt of a suggestive proposition from her. "Some people compare her to Dame Edna's character on British television," said Saleem, "but Begum Nawazish Ali is much too sophisticated to ever be that crude."

So popular is the show that advertising rates during its weekend prime time slot are triple that of other shows in similar slots. Saleem is now one of the highest paid television hosts in the country and is constantly receiving offers from rival channels to bring the show to them.

During an arduous three-hour hair and make-up session before the recording of a show, Saleem was philosophical about the reasons why the show has clicked with audiences.

"I think Begum Nawazish Ali inspires women in particular because she is a strong, glamorous, opinionated woman who is unafraid of saying what she thinks and of flirting with men if she feels like it," explained Saleem. "Men, on the other hand, find her intriguing because she transcends all kinds of restrictions and plays with their imagination."

More open than outsiders think
So far, despite the thin line Saleem treads between the outrageous and the socially acceptable – overt sexuality of any kind is frowned upon in conservative Pakistan – his celebrity guests have also been good sports.

Surprisingly even Pakistan's firebrand religious leaders have never attacked the show. "We couldn't convince [the head of the main religious parties alliance] Qazi Hussain Ahmed to come on the show," said Saleem, "but he was very good-natured about it. He praised the Begum and said he would rather just watch the show on television."

Even a septuagenarian belonging to Jamaat-e-Islami, an Islamist political party, claimed that he did not know what he was getting into after appearing on the show.  

Saleem got his first big break famously impersonating former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto in theatre and on television, but says it's the Ali character that brings out the real woman inside him. "I am happy to openly accept my bisexuality because it does justice to the man in me and the woman in me," he said with a laugh. He claims he has "only received love, adoration and respect, never anything evenly remotely negative."

Then Saleem dropped a bombshell. "You are the first person I am announcing this to, but I have decided to file my papers for the upcoming general elections," he exclaimed. "I am going to run for a parliamentary seat as an independent from all over Pakistan and I am going to campaign as Begum Nawazish Ali!" The note of triumph and excitement in his voice is unmistakable.

"I want to be the voice of the youth and for all of Pakistan," he continued. "The idea was always to break barriers and preconceived notions, of gender, identity, celebrity and politics and to bring people closer. In any case, I think Begum Nawazish Ali is the strongest woman in Pakistan!"

Whether Pakistanis agree or not, the elections at the end of the year are likely to be one of the most uproarious in recent times.

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Who cares. Is this news worthy of my time?
I live in both Pakistan and the U.S. - all I can say is this: You go Begum Ali! Pakistan needs all the humour it can get!
I'm a drag queen too, wish I looked that good and be as popular as she is. At least I wish we the transgender comunity could be fully accepted by everyone.
What's the over/under on how long it will be before Saleem is beheaded now that he's been outed? For his sake, I hope they don't read Worldblog.
If this is the best thing to watch on Pakistani TV than pakistanis need to watch a new TV show. A man in drag is anything but entertaining after the first hour. The kind of show pakistanis need should more humourous which everyone can relate to, through satire, everyday living and foibles from such. Humor should be geniuine and thus not cosmetic, it should reflect the true nature of the republic rather something which is not. I support the show for what it is, but not to make it much more. The producers of the show should extend their horizons and look beyond cheap gimmicks such as this and acquire genuine talent one who can make the public smile and even provoke laughter at themselves and everything else. After all, no matter what happens in life if you cant laugh about it or remember it fondly(with the exception of certain grim events) its not worth bringing it about.
There's no such thing as Indian administered Kashmir. Its like saying US administered Mexico for California. Please correct your article.
It is heartening to read about Begum Ali, certain extreme Islamists here in the U.K seem so humourless and cruel when it comes to gender difference. If this can happen in Pakistan, laughter itself may heal some of the divisions and misunderstandings in our world. All almost everybody of any religion and country wants is a world where it is safe to love and respect one another.
I think it's great Ali can do Begum on Pakistani television. It's just too bad a real woman can't do it, with or without the sexual innuendoes. It's an ironic twist that Indian and Pakistani men will accept him as a her on TV, but they apparently can't accept a woman as a woman in the public eye. I suppose they have to start somewhere. . .
Interesting, I seen of lot of crossing dressing stars in Asian programings, but never expected one in Pakistan of all places. If I could understand the lanuage, I would want to watch it.
You GET IT GIRL!
Interesting article. Not to piggyback on the comment from L. DeWeese, The World needs all the humor it can get. Good for you Begum Ali.
I am british and I think this is disgusting what ever happend to the real pakistan if this goes on much longer there is going to be trouble.
Sounds like she is the 'Borat' of Pakistan.
It is a shame for the pakistanies who are living abroad,that a man in the shape of a woman is aired on tv channel every night to speak foolish and rubbish stuff of all kind.Since all the people of the world look at Pakistan as an Islamic country with a strong economic and millitary power.No country in the world has this kind of low -value program,not even any of the poor counties.This non-sense must be stoped even if President Musharuf has to interfere,because we are being considered as the low-life and illitrate people because we can not find a real man or areal woman who can who can come-up with a real late night show.
This is a farce. While Pakistan is guilty of denigrating their congenital hermaphrodite community into untouchable pariah status, they are all goo-goo ga-ga over this freakshow drag queen? The average Pakistani doesn't even know what a hermaphrodite is and that these people have rights in Islam. Immoral degenerates such as this Begum Nawazish Ali do not. These social issues and hypocricies need to be addressed alongside the scores of other social maladies in Pakistani society which contrast the rights given to people in TRUE Islamic Law (not the mockery of it preached by extremist groups).
Is there any way we can see this in the US?
Maybe the Pakistanis will learn to be able to laugh at themselves, and things will lighten up a bit on that side of the world....... Go get 'em!
There are some similarities between him and Benjamin Franklin. Franklin used to write letters to the editor using a female persona. It might be kind of fun to explore men using female personas to convey political opinions.
Is it just me or does she/he look kinda like Paula Abdul?
it goes back to the old question. which comes first, the egg or the chicken? it's men & women. i didn't know gays are also in pakistan!
Just read some of these other responses: "Immoral degenerates such as this Begum Nawazish Ali" do not have rights... Hazari, AZ "This non-sense must be stoped even if President Musharuf has to interfere,because we are being considered as the low-life and illitrate people..." Noor Malik, GA "I think this is disgusting what ever happend to the real pakistan if this goes on much longer there is going to be trouble." Hayrulallah, UK Do these people sound tolerant? Does their application of their religion sound inviting? Granted, some US Ecumenicals sound equally bigoted when they are on the attack but, to echo Ryan in Whitestone, it only makes you wonder how long it will be before he is assasinated. It will probably be a 14 yr old suicide bomber who wants a date with the virgins.
It amazes me the backwards 4th world Middle East can't handle the thought of a Woman having a thought but they allow and cheer for a man in drag who confesses he's bi. These morons like to proclaim some divine inspiration from a murdering/sexual deviant Mohammad going around killing anyone pro-western but yet they applaud this show. It just proves how uneducated and idiotic they really are.
>>i didn't know gays are also in pakistan! I hope you are kidding. Gay people are born every day in every country in the world.
What's the negativity about? Is it because some-one can stand up and address the issues or is it because Begum is a cross-dresser? There have been a number of such persona all over the world - Dame Edna (England), Evita Bezuidenhout (South Africa), and some of them have been excellent. There is no call for Jihad against them, so why the animosity about Begum? Is it that some of these fascists from prior posts can not laugh, or can not stand critism? Even Qazi Hussain Ahmed is quoted as watching it on TV!
It's a big wide wonderful world we all live in and there's room enough for all different kinds of people. Relax, sit back and have a good laugh. It's just entertainment. Enjoy it for what it is.
Begum Nawazish Ali is simply awesome. The person with lady attire and the heart of a man. Saw clips on Youtube interviewing celebrities, politicians and high profile socialites like Sheikh Raseed the politician/play boy of pakistan, Umar Shareef a top sharp tongue comedian to Hard line Mullahs like Naimatullah Khan. All get well spanked and flirted on national TV by begum(Lady). She is divorced and looking for upper class discrete love.. lol just brilliant!
I notice all the Arab sounding names are not happy with the show. Lighten up and realize not everything is life or death. To Noor Malik in Atlanta, Georgia, you said that "No country in the world has this kind of low -value program", you are in the US, have you ever watched TV in the US?
wut is Noor Malik of Atlanta Georgia saying about pakistan known as a islamic country with strong economic and military power? wahahahhahahahaha.... sorry to say but you are just making people laugh... your military power is not even par with india(your arch-enemy). your economics? i have nothing to say...if you ask me what i know about pakistan? my impression is, you're a haven of terrorists, a land of primitive religious beliefs, a country who have to suck up to US because they know if they don't , they'll be bombed back to stone age!!!hahahahha...oh and did you know that the world knows that you guys stinx.....hahahahaah
I strongly object to one comment that Indian & Pakistani men..." apparently can't accept a woman as a woman in the public eye." India & Pakistan both have had woman Prime Ministers which is more than what US can claim. Its the first time in US history that there is a woman speaker in the assembly. So please no generalization.
I think this is great! Good for him...I mean her...I mean... oh well. Nice job!!
Pakistan is not economic power..thats India. Dream on Noor Malik..Pakistan is about 50 years behind India. Anyways, this is a good thing. The more accepting that Pakistanis become, then the more tolerant and free the society will be.
Begum is a fraud with issues; one of them is his violence towards women.
Is this for real? I thought the Muslim community would never allow this. I can't believe this is what the world has come to, I need to win the lottery so I can go to an island an never read the news again..
YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!ATLEAST SHE HAS THE GUTS TO COME UP ON TV AND SHOW THE REAL HER,OTHERWISE PEOPLE LIKE HIM ARE LIVING A MISERABLE LIFE IN PAKISTAN B/C OUR SOCIETY DO NOT EXCEPT THEM.
Kind of interesting. What is important is that the Islamic world needs to waken up from their deep dreams to know that there are different people who do not stick to their "....." ideology and their God.
Hey I gotta give props to Begum Ali, pakistan needs to open their horizons and see that no matter what kind of person they are, that they can hold a candle like an ordinary man hosting a talk show.
Just goes to show that pakistan is nowhere as fanatic as is portrayed by contemporary media. My friends from pakistan (of both gender) have been among the most fun loving people I have known, with superb wit. One of them told me that they call their president Musharraf, "Busharraf" because of his close alliance wiith our President - I think that is hilarious! Also, for Mahesh: United nations does not have outstanding resolutions requiring plebiscite in California, so get real and perhaps then you live in peace.
ALL drag queens and TS/TV/CD stand up!!! And to all the people who love us, thank you !!!
who cares if he is a man in drag.!and so what he is doing it in a muslim country!!!!not all muslims are fanatics.im a muslim,i do not agree on most things that are happening in this world especially in u.s. it doesnt mean that im going to judge you and hate you for being gay or whatever. people need to stop listening to the media and start to open their eyes.its like theyre beeing controled by ropes.especilly in the south!!! PLEASE!ignorance sucks!!!!
The world needs TOLERANCE not intolerance. It never ceases to amaze me how the extreme macho right in America has so much in common with the islamic fanatics. Conservative does not have to mean intolerant...
First, to SM, NYC "Pakistan is not economic power..thats India", sorry buddy, you're on the wrong forum, this isn't the India vs Pak debate. Secondly,I am a Pakistani woman and it's saddening to see that all negative comments have been from other Pakistani's. The point isn't whether Begum is a man or a woman or what saree she's wearing. The point that someone has the "b*lls" to SAY IT LIKE IT IS, and provide laughter in the process. It's high time that Pakistan rids itself of wannabe "mullahs" who secretly eye the 14 yr old girl living next door while preaching the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). At the same time, for Ben of Phoenix, it is not "these morons (who).. proclaim some divine inspiration from a murdering/sexual deviant Mohammad going around killing anyone pro-western" who applaud this show, but rather liberal Muslims who believe in focusing on the REAL issues in the world who applaud the show.Please be respectful of other people's religious beliefs even if you don't believe in them. I'm not defaming your religion, don't say crap about mine.
It's the top rated show. Advertisement costs peak. Begum is recruited from the competition. Blogs are written. Call it what you want, it's a success. . We need more people like this in the to stimulate dialogue, educate people and break down the barriers of ignorance. Look at biases reflected above. Sexuality, religion, nationality, humor, entertainment, politics. Thanks to everyone, even the ignorant twits. HA
After reading comments I am amazed it has generated so much discussion - it's just not that important. Growing pains for each country are reflected in the media, so good for the program! As for those outside of Pakistan that are Muslim or Pakistani, get a grip! This is not the country of your youth, if you were even born there, most are 2nd and 3rd generations living in other countries. You are enjoying the benefits of a country other than Pakistan, so don't make comments to those IN Pakistan flexing their media wings. Go for it - remember Benny Hill??? geez
I'd love to see a clip where she hooks up with rupaul!!
"I think Begum Nawazish Ali inspires women in particular because she is a strong, glamorous, opinionated woman who is unafraid of saying what she thinks and of flirting with men if she feels like it," explained Saleem. The women there are afraid to say what they think for a reason.
What is the point of all of this? You have a bi sexual male in women's clothing. BORING! I couldn't give 2 roosters posing as hens in a hen house about this person! Please MSNBC, put something a little more tasteful on your news site since I am sure you are noticing you are losing a large part of your reader ... this is just a load of crap!
Hindus living in North America (i.e.Redmond 7 NYC who responded to this article missed the point of this interesting article and instead focussed on words like Indian Administered Kashmir or if Pakistan is an Economic Power. Do not forget that Pakistan is a Nuclear Power with its nukes aimed at Indian cities to respond to any treats from its enemies like India and Israel. If India is 50 year ahead economically I wonder how far ahead India will be after one nuclear strike from this weak neighbor. Kashmir has been brutally occupied for past 60 years by Indian forces against wishes of its majority Muslim population. There was no reason to make this article political but since some of the Hindus readers felt to bring it up I had to make things clear for other readers.
Mahesh from Redman, Washington said in her comment that MSNBC needs to correct its article because there is no such thing as an "Indian-administered Kashmir." Actually Masesh, it is you that needs to correct your comment. Kashmir is internationally recognised as having three seperatly administered geographic areas, one by Pakistan, one by India, and one by People's Republic of China...Get your facts straight Masesh.
this is an answer to Ben from AZ Pakistan is not in the middle east MR.WELL EDUCATED. And those morons with some divine inspiration never murdered 20 million native americans,15-20million African slaves,anihilated all of the inhabitants in Argentina[that is South America by the way] read a little about the conquistadores and what they did in the name of JESUS,YES A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE would do you good. But that was not enough,the new civilised world in Europe ,particularly England and France went on to colonise,murder and rape all of Africa,India,S.E. Asia,the middle-east,Australia and countless islands,all of this in the name of christianity and civilisation.And then again i can be a moron and stupid following your line of thinking and say that hitler had some divine inspiration from Jesus since he was a christian. Denigrating and putting down other religions and what people beleive in just wrong and the thinking of bigots. What's right is that Ben rimes with no brain.
WAY TO GO NBC. PURE CRAP. DOES ANYONE CARE ABOUT THIS?


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